#fury

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south kayak
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why is that sadge

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AM owns

somber elk
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nice

unreal onyx
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AM fuck bad in raid

fading sky
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some encounters am is nice

pulsar prawn
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hope also in m+ will be close too šŸ™‚

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(if we get invites anyway because caster meta , target cap, no utility)

fading sky
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I mean idc if we can just fuxk on prio target and st in m+

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U can easily get into keys until, the level where u prob want a team anyways

upper mica
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did the unmarked buffs end up staying ro did they get reverted?

fickle bluff
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stay

upper mica
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so still a buff for next season at least

dense elbow
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We wont be bellow aug on ST, that is for sure

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Raid looking alright, M+ a bit more wobbly; but in the end we will be FineTM

upper mica
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need to look into it more but not much changes as far as rotation or spec goes from what i can tell... but i havent analysed yet lol

dense elbow
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We still good ol' fury, just with less buttons

unreal onyx
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Even less?

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Whats missing

alpine flax
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Less just be real for a second fury just needs a target cap increase nothing more until this buff patches and we’re gucci

unreal onyx
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Just give fury hyper-ST dmg

summer quail
alpine flax
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But that’s problematic. You cant give him to much or he will be way above everyone else

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And that doesn’t change anything if +10 mobs getting pulled, everyone will outperform you doesn’t matter if you have 50 % more single target

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The single target is you’re aoe is the problem here

unreal onyx
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Cant really balance it too good with that concept

alpine flax
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What they could change ist , that it converts more then 55% of the single target to 5 target, then the class fantasy that fury is a 5 target monster, could be realized again

unreal onyx
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Either you uncap and fuck big time in aoe and suck in ST, or you fuck big time in ST and suck in aoe

upper mica
alpine flax
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He just needs an increase % wise or target cap wise to this point now

unreal onyx
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I'd rather fuck big time in ST, cleave up to 5T well and fall off at 5+

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leave aoe to the broken classes just like every other season

alpine flax
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See and that makes no sense

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Since ā€œdamageā€ is the only thing a warrior brings

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You have nothing more.

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M+ Dungeons doesn’t get smaller in pulls, it’s gets larger, so doesn’t matter if you would do big single target, if you suck ass in a pure AOE dungeon

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Target cap increase or % to give class fantasy back is the right way for next buffs. After that we’re gucci again

unreal onyx
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Bosses are as important as trash, I'd argue even more important

alpine flax
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Wrong

unreal onyx
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And most bosses are pure ST with miniscule cleave

alpine flax
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Did you see great push ?

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How they pulled bosses into 3 trash packs ?

unreal onyx
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That would mean that trash is neglectable

alpine flax
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Fury would deal 25 % of the damage of any aoe class

unreal onyx
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A lot of trash is a pure padfest with one kick every now and then

alpine flax
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True

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And there is the next thing, we got nothing to give here as a warrior

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So it’s only damage ( which we currently don’t have) or cc and we lack both

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It’s such a sad thing šŸ˜…

unreal onyx
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I mean, if you want cc you get cc

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Pummel, stormbolt, shockwave, intim shout

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And depending on the race also stomp

alpine flax
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Yeah and other classes have them too

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  • bloodlust
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  • good aoe damage and single target
unreal onyx
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You said we lack cc

alpine flax
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We do, we have nothing what others can’t do

unreal onyx
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That is not lacking then

alpine flax
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We have nothing in damage or cc or utility which makes us worth able to pick into m+

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Instead of every other claaa which can do it better by a mile

unreal onyx
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This conversation is happening at least every 2 days in here, idk what to tell you

alpine flax
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Yep and that why I said, target cap to 8 and we’re gucci in s2

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Hope the listen

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Then we can do equal damage and maybe don’t get booed out again into absolute trash damage

unreal onyx
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Buff ST, lower cleave% and increase target cap, that would give similar output in most pack sizes then

indigo arch
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Nah our class fantasy is not doing good damage in actual m+ pull situations

alpine flax
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Yeah true

alpine flax
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That what would fix it

indigo arch
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and getting nerfed two weeks into a patch

dense elbow
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I rather have AoE burst, ngl. But we wont getting that back

alpine flax
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True and outlaw has it passive šŸ˜…

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Same fantasy but better

indigo arch
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Don't worry, people definitely want that sick rallying cry, and the battle shout to buff the frost mages, and don't forget two ccs that dr off each other!

alpine flax
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I dropped my fury at630 ilvl since my outlaw does more damage with 615

alpine flax
indigo arch
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Ooo, or perhaps an intervene that gives like a 50k magic absorb

inner zinc
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If they reverted changes and we could interrupt with cc, we would be in a better spot because of the TWW changes they made to shockwave

dense elbow
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And uncap our fear :v

indigo arch
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Yea stops not actually stopping was a fuckawful change

inner zinc
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25s cd shockwaves that can stop spells would be a real good niche for us

high echo
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lololo these guys are ready minute 1

pearl sequoia
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thumbnail game on point

indigo arch
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I kinda wish they'd buff slayer over thane for m+, I miss having a shockwave that hits narnia

high echo
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cool thumbnail tho

dense elbow
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Not sure if bloodthirst or heroism

inner zinc
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If they also buffed rallying cry to be better in 5man content like they did for Darkness, that would also be awesome

high echo
indigo arch
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Clearly heroism, just look at all the damage fury gets from PI over other specs:

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Haste cds are great!

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Or just make rally be old commanding shout, and give a sizeable amount

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Fort level or more

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they could bring back easily accessable aoe shouts like disrupting shout

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they could add banners, they have literally so many ways they could do this shit

dense elbow
high echo
dense elbow
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Had you sweating

inner zinc
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Oh yeah for sure, im mainly making suggestions based on what we already have they could improve

high echo
indigo arch
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delete dogshit like berserker shout for it, concussive blows too and frankly the fear shout talents, all dead talent space

dense elbow
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I think there is room to make inti shout a thing. 1st, uncap it, 2: make the double investment on it a choice node between lower CD or Enrage removal

inner zinc
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Int shout needs a rework. Make it targetless, cower instead of fleeing and remove target cap

indigo arch
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they could delete smf too, make it a passive or kill it off, it's cosmetic shit for ppl who like to larp as someone doing less dps

dense elbow
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Who cares about SMF? It is a node that is just there. Aint in the way and costs us nothing

sudden tusk
inner zinc
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Berserker shout needs to just be a fear ward effect for a few sec for it to be any good

indigo arch
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Precisely why i'd like them to occupy smf's space with something of use

inner zinc
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Ive never used berserker shout but the wording makes it seem like we can never pre-emptively use it like zerker rage for ourselves if we want to cleanse fear on allies which is really awful. If it gave a fear ward for a few seconds it would be a great niche talent

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Or they could make it its own ability separate of zerker rage

wild mural
dense elbow
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Hydrate now try to find someone that cares

wild mural
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SMF is bis

dense elbow
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OF is bis

wild mural
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Factually incorrect

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Soz

dense elbow
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Intellectual dishonest

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Soz

ornate gust
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How good those tuning? It seems we have flat damage.. no big burst

junior shore
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anyone know if undercoin's get reset in s2?

upper mica
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i think i read they will

junior shore
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kk thx, time to stock up on the reagent bags then

lapis shadow
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PTR boys - is execute worht clicking now?

radiant plank
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even less so

dense elbow
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Dude duuuuuuuude, it pops off in PvP

molten night
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thane full time?

upper mica
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time to decide if i hold all my profession mats until week 1 raid or sell now lol

upper mica
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most mats will be purchasble from vendor from memory

fading sky
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Arcane acuity send for recipes

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I guess

upper mica
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im thinking more things like profaned tinderbox lol

fading sky
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Well

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Cheap now.

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But hmm, many ppl will do delves week 1

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So, its a gamblr

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Send 1m if u got sppare

upper mica
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yeah i think i take the gamble

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i think the tinderbox had a vendor you can buy from so that may take a hit

upper mica
fading sky
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But tinders used for a lot of shit

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Market volatile, send 500k worth worst case u loose 10%

earnest canyon
earnest canyon
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Ah makes sense then thanks

fading sky
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Ill c what prices are tonight and buy some

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Mainly coz i lost g. Last time i tried. I need to make em back haha

earnest canyon
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yeah i never bother with trying to "game" the ah.....i always fuck myself over cos other people have already thought beyond what I try and do

jolly oyster
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Guys outaide of cooldowns do I prio rampage at all times? Even if I have enrage up for say another 3-4 seconds?
The priority list got me a bit confused

clever belfry
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with RA, no

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with AM u can just slam ramp ye

jolly oyster
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Ahh sorry I didn't go into enough depth, sometimes when I rampage, crushing blow and bloodbath (using RA) I have enough rage to rampage again but still have enrage for 3-4s.
Should I hit a couple raging blows or send rampage again for the empowered RB/BT 😊

gilded pawn
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rampage again

jolly oyster
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Thanks guys

static rock
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so what trinkets are lookin good on the PTR? don't have the time to spend several hours testing all of these trinkets, since several look pretty good

primal python
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eye of kezan and house of cards

south kayak
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I wonder what are the second best trinkets or dungeon ones

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or even delves

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Shit we can farm

static rock
primal python
static rock
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Cause the eye of kezan doesn't seem as effective in mythic+ as it does in raid

golden kiln
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if your group is coordinated enough, I could see eye of rezan being giga

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but like

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rip rogues

frank dawn
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Yeah not much different from other ramping trinkets. If you can keep it stacked it will be large

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Can’t say how viable that might be in this dungeon pool

whole yacht
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TWINKET

rigid stirrup
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Eye is just brand/anvil from df

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Better keep those target dummy toys ready in m+

golden kiln
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or my beloved old warrior's soul

high basin
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anyone got something close to the 11.1 apl i can try?

smoky vale
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just press buttons
šŸ™‚

dense elbow
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Why you do this to me Gio, why?

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sadge why you want me to suffer

mossy fox
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damn they put fury and increased target count from 5 to 8 in same sentence

dense elbow
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You had me for half a sec

radiant sentinel
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had us in the first half

south kayak
earnest canyon
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just buff wild fire bomb by 200%

iron portal
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@golden hare

golden hare
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how does he do it...

modest condor
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omg real razonko

dense elbow
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Before I que "note engi", after I que: "rogue/aug note engi"

sour frigate
thick fossil
south kayak
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lmfao

thick fossil
restive peak
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I swear man if we get up to 8, y'all will be pissed with what comes with it

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Prayin for the wrong things

dense elbow
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Hear Hear! OF buffs is what you really want!

restive peak
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We've been this capped and relevant in M+/raid for ages, we're giga strong on 5t+ST right now on PTR

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All 3 classes in M+ don't need to be uncapped

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They move us to 8 = they nerf our rotational abilities

dense elbow
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Or they just reduce the value of MC

restive peak
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It's blizz

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They won't do that

dense elbow
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Ye, ye, I know

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At this point, I just pray other classes can carry my DPS so I get to play

restive peak
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We do super good DPS lol

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Enh was the only giga insane spec really, and BM a bit, they got nerfed

lapis shadow
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We carry out self

dense elbow
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And lock?

lapis shadow
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Our•

earnest canyon
restive peak
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Lock is clearly not where it's supposed to be based on ROF in ST

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So I'm just ignoring them for now

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Like that's a design flaw they're never going to allow into the season, so it can be safely ignored imo

dense elbow
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We doomed

south kayak
restive peak
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Enh is close to us after the changes

south kayak
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weird stuff

restive peak
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^

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That's what I mean

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It'll get fixed

dense elbow
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I will believe it when I see it

south kayak
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They probably need to buff CB

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that shit's cursed lmao

restive peak
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We're looking to be like DF S2 level; just outside the meta but very strong

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I'm onboard w that

dense elbow
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Buff Crushing Blow?

south kayak
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Chaos Bolt

dense elbow
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Oh, noone cares about that jazz, git out

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let em rot

restive peak
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Bro they buff crushing blow anymore and they can just straight delete execute+onslaught as buttons permanently lmao

south kayak
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The issue started when they reworked Inferno talent to make RoF cost 2 shards

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now it costs the same as CB

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and it has no cast timer

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cursed

dense elbow
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All I want to see, is them making it so OF does more damage than a raging blow on ST, and I am happy for the season

south kayak
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and shard gen is insane

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they have the same issues we have with rage

restive peak
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OF deadge Funky is pissed

south kayak
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they need to make that lower so CB is stronger and worthy

dense elbow
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OF not only dead, it is super dead

south kayak
dense elbow
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My monkeypaw wish backfired spectaculary

south kayak
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Fury and 8 targets

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it's a hint guys

restive peak
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I'm telling you, if we get that we're all gonna regret it

mossy fox
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bruh i made this joke 1 hr 20 mins ago

restive peak
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That's a monkey-paw moment waiting to happen

dense elbow
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I am with Linc on this tho, you really dont want to see that for Fury. See what they did to OF

restive peak
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Personally I prefer prio/ST dmg as my role, my parses are fuckin hilarious if you swap from overall to boss dam, I just hate pad

mossy fox
restive peak
thick fossil
south kayak
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our ST/AoE difference is even more neglibile now

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with no use of OF

restive peak
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Yeah and our ST is fucking SOLID on PTR

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This, for me personally, is exactly what I enjoy

dense elbow
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Our ST is solid, for sure

south kayak
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I agree tbh

restive peak
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It's why if I have to play a caster, I've always preferred fire mage

dense elbow
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Our AoE and AoE burst is gone

restive peak
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IDGAF about overall pad shit

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But I know I'm the minority

south kayak
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Well it's not entirely gone but it's nowhere to what it used to be

restive peak
south kayak
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in first few weeks of Nerubar

restive peak
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Fury, for me, has always been at its best when we consistently climb throughout a fight through good consistency

south kayak
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I agree tbh

restive peak
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I don't care if I start at 12 if I end 1-3

dense elbow
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I prefer when it is bursty and silly fun. We like what we like

thick fossil
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I'd rather our cool downs hit more than 5 though.

south kayak
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They tried something in S1 and it didn't work because they are going to keep nerfing us if we're doing that much burst

south kayak
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twice a day broken clock moment

restive peak
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Brooo

south kayak
restive peak
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I need to stop typing for the day, I'm outta rights

south kayak
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Believe me

dense elbow
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Buffs OF by nerfing rotationals, is a way to do it

south kayak
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It kinda sucks that other classes can have a good rotational ability and strong cds cough survival cough

thick fossil
south kayak
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Saw someone who crit 34m

restive peak
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Nah I just came back to WoW last Sunday bro LOL

south kayak
restive peak
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I took a solid 10-12 week break

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I'm catchin up

south kayak
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The tier set for survival is kinda cracked

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I have to find it

earnest canyon
south kayak
restive peak
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Hunter always gets shotgunned out back anyway

south kayak
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400%

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!!!

dense elbow
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400% on 0 is 0

south kayak
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no it's not when it crits for 34m

dense elbow
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DeathStrike crits for more

south kayak
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sus

dense elbow
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They never fixed the weapon enchant bug

south kayak
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the what

south kayak
dense elbow
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The Death Strike mod one, it is granting its scaling up too early still

south kayak
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classic blizzard

dense elbow
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Probably to reduce their AoE dam? Sounds like the target, and a much needed one at that

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Well, for your guys sake, the flat dam enjoyers - I pray that we will be undisputed 5t kings. Or we will have a bad time

sour frigate
dense elbow
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I will worry about your cute little monk when it starts doing dam

thick fossil
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Holy shit, it finally showed up

south kayak
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lmfao, WW is pretty strong on PTR tbh

south kayak
sour frigate
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Not very strong

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Just like fury now relatively

dense elbow
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What we call not very strong, the avg guy in here calls super op

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we got to adapt our lingo

thick fossil
sour frigate
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Shaman and destro look busted

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Monk no

south kayak
dense elbow
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Not sure what we are showing off here

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but gz

south kayak
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the banner

thick fossil
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Break the Meta was a long time ago.

steel geyser
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Is onslaught still dead?

south kayak
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yeah

steel geyser
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Figured

dense elbow
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Why would you want RB+ either way?

steel geyser
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Thane on Ptr I’d imagine our build hasn’t changed

south kayak
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Real

dense elbow
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Just another bind for the same function with a bit of extra SS stacks

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<@&257983573498265600>

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Free money for ya

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enjoy

south kayak
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lmfao

flat cargo
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ty KEK

south kayak
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what about the report cut

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vel

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is he getting anything

flat cargo
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+5 rep

dense elbow
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Already in mah steam vallet

south kayak
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YOu guys remember when you could see melee auto attack damage in details?

dense elbow
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I see it still, it is my top 3

lofty forge
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Best spec for zekvir?

dense elbow
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Fury Slayer is what I did, worked fine - but I overgeared it a shit ton tho

south kayak
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I still haven't done zekvir

lofty forge
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what il did you have? i am only 619

dense elbow
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640

south kayak
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damn lmao

dense elbow
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I did it under threat of getting hit by a slipper

iron portal
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overgeared it more than A BIT

dense elbow
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"you need that mount"

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pftz

iron portal
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but you can do it sub 615 ilvl

young swan
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i still need to do zekvir

iron portal
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then do it

young swan
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need the feat of strength

dense elbow
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You really dont

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It was not worth it

young swan
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having an achievement that is no longer obtainable is always worth it

storm rune
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Plus purple blimp

dense elbow
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First you got to do delves to get to 10... then spend 20min on a boss, not worth Xan

south kayak
fickle bluff
dense elbow
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It is all the work to get to it that aint worth

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Boss itself was alright, prob a bit of fun if I didnt do it what 4-5months after it was current content

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That is my fault, sure.

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But the delves to get there

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not worth

storm rune
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Level 11 delves at like ilvl 600 were a fucking slog

dense elbow
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I thought it was a slog at 640, I respect the pain you must have gone through

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Mobs just didnt want to fall over 😓

storm rune
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Eh, was prot so it was still easy, but pulling a full pack was a death sentence

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Pull 2 mobs, rest, repeat, snore

dense elbow
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What killed me was mobs with 200m hp, that is a lot of HP to grind through over and over

storm rune
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I scummed the fungal folly one where the mushroom explosion 1-2 taps mobs

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Then you just have the mythic raid boss hp mob at the end to sleep through

jade tiger
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I've been looking at some logs and i keep on seeing people use their first transmitter at 1:3X:00, does that mean transmitter buff doesnt reset on boss pull and you can press it b4 pull?

storm rune
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yeah, you can offset them by 15 seconds before buff wears off

dense elbow
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I presume they did the task as part of the prepull, at that timing, yarp

jade tiger
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ok thanks guys

humble lark
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after recent buffs, do you guys think arms will overtake fury in keys?

sour frigate
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🫳
šŸ”®
🫓

azure holly
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anyone knows addons/WAs to help with clarity on my character? so it's easier seeing my character if I'm right under an npc or something

earnest canyon
azure holly
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just what I needed, evern silhouette outline

earnest canyon
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oh great!

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enjoy

azure holly
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yeah fuck the icon lol

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maybe if it was a unique one, but why would they use the existing marker icons

earnest canyon
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it sucks if ur in a raid and some wa or whatever tries to mark you

azure holly
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yeah sounds like garbage

earnest canyon
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yeah it should be unique

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it gives me a star....not sure if its random or what

static rock
# dense elbow 640

Did you do anything special btw? or did you just slug it out with him?

dense elbow
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To this day I dont know what the boss was supposed to do

static rock
dense elbow
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Yep

static rock
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Did you use the npc as support?

dense elbow
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He was on whatever he was on by default

opal zenith
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Any numbers come out for those changes yesterday?

dense elbow
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For Fury? Doubt they bothered to even run a sim. For arms? Ye, they circling their new numbers meme'ing about sandbaging

opal zenith
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Yea i figured it was probably close to a wash for MT.

native adder
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is it common to drop odyns fury in keys or is that more of a high pushing thing

dense elbow
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Well, OF is weak, but fun - so play it if you enjoy it. You dont really lose DPS, and at lower content levels, you might even gain some if you can kill things before others can.

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So, it is a "high pushing thing", sort of

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Still, you can do 15s, and OF still alright, in my experience

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Man, I hope OF getting buffed, or next season going to suuuuuuuuck for myself

static rock
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Only reason I'd pick it is if your group is severly lacking on aoe and are getting swarmed by adds. Personally I always pick double VC for ST, still feels good even outside of CDs

dense elbow
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Mercy

native adder
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if you hit a mob thats low with BT and you have VC do you cleave more damage?

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Sorry I havnt played fury since legion so that might be a stupid question

covert blaze
warm crag
covert blaze
native adder
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Thanks for the advice. I suppose dropping OF you'd take Berserker's torment instead also

dense elbow
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Yep, no OF = no TT needed

oblique trail
lilac temple
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With all the buffs on ptr whats better arms or fury for both cleave and st?

worthy folio
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Was the buff not +25% to thunder blast?

red berry
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is the PTS down until the patch

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or is ti coming back up

red berry
worthy folio
red berry
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yes. i know. i see that

worthy folio
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Yepp, hence why I’m confused

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Is it 14 or 25?

modest condor
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14

hybrid karma
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what is the "best" race for warrior on horde side?

stiff torrent
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vulpera

wary fjord
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whatever you want

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best race is just swap to alliance and go dwarf

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atleast for m+

hybrid karma
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i play a void elf since end of shadowlands soooo .... keks

thick fossil
wary fjord
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eh

warm crag
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But you wouldnt be asking abt races if u were so ye

stiff torrent
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human warrior, embrace your inner boring

thick fossil
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Race does mean pretty much nothing, maybe some niche utility.

hybrid karma
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it's just for a horde char that maybe gets CE next patch and i don't really know what is actually useful on horde side

thick fossil
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race choice will have zero impact on getting CE.

modest condor
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just play dragon for the glide

warm crag
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Why are you faction changing anyways

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Velf is like top 3 dammy racials

clever belfry
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dwagon >

hybrid karma
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i'm not faction changing just making a new char thats horde

dense elbow
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Time to go Nelf

warm crag
clever belfry
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i have gotten better

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at not accidentally double jumping

warm crag
warm crag
oblique trail
#

Only took 2 months to not do it

warm crag
modest condor
#

i think i saw someone deplete a NW in tgp because the evoker double jumped so he missed the hook on the third boss

clever belfry
#

a timeless one

balmy shore
#

play goblin for goblin patch

modest condor
#

no

#

not everybody is crazy like you

wary fjord
#

gottem

modest condor
#

ayyyy

balmy shore
#

@chrome plover is also gob gang

#

goblin bf gf are unmatched

chrome plover
#

so hyped

balmy shore
#

gobbie!!!!!!

wary fjord
#

i cant wait for the number of goblin jokes to be made

smoky vale
restive peak
#

Goblin gross

smoky vale
#

what about šŸ‰

balmy shore
#

don’t be a hater lincc!!!!!

restive peak
#

I can't side w the goblin life

#

Sorry Squimshy

smoky vale
#

he hates šŸ‰

restive peak
#

Dragons are fuckin disgusting

azure holly
#

if I have 2 TB stacks and rage capped, do I spend or TB? on ST

native adder
#

My warband screen is 4 goblins yippee

lofty forge
#

easiest war spec to do zekvir with?

sour frigate
#

Prot

coarse nest
lofty forge
sour frigate
#

šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

#

Ure not restricted to try both fury and prot

lofty forge
balmy shore
#

need to catch up on skyhold again now that patch is dropping soon i feel like im coming out of hibernation

#

been raid logging for too long!!

left elk
thick fossil
radiant plank
azure holly
#

rotation on wowhead suggests you should ignore overcap

thick fossil
#

May not always work out that way, but best practice.

balmy shore
#

cow too big

coarse nest
#

NE bis

#

or dwarf for rp tmog

#

gimle owns

radiant plank
balmy shore
#

cow too big!!!

thick fossil
#

I want those weapons.

restive peak
#

Rasha just robo armed our fuckin mage on spawn in 17 DB for no reason....I hate this game

#

He was just like nah, this tank looks tanky

#

How bout that mage

thick fossil
left elk
thick fossil
#

Rasha just really wanted that mage booty. lol

halcyon wyvern
#

Coming back after s1, Do I need to grind the island ring for s2 or is it for sure gonna be replaced easily

smoky vale
#

you will have to grind it out

#

ring is intended to be hc ring level

#

but probably kept unless nerfed

thick fossil
#

Suppose to last till then, remains to be seen.

smoky vale
#

i watched a sim for rogue and that shit was bis vs everything

thick fossil
#

lame

sullen dove
#

Should only be a few hours to completely max it out tho

#

maybe less

oblique trail
#

Atm it's looking to be used even at max ilvl

#

So either that's good or bad news depending on how you feel about using last season items

restive peak
#

We 4 short of title pls blizz

#

PLS

whole yacht
thick fossil
sullen dove
#

I mean idk how accurate the upgrade things dropping from rares are or how common they are but like the weekly quests are all a joke

#

Literally spend 30 minutes doing em and it’s over

oblique trail
#

The ring upgrades do drop from the rares

#

I've gotten from both the cave rares and normal rares

sullen dove
#

a skill differentiation then I suppose

restive peak
#

16 SV and maybe 1 more 17 and I can probably AFK the season tbh

#

That db would've been it....fucking robo arms rashanan

iron portal
#

Hahah

#

I imagine rashanan having spasm like Elden ring puppet

restive peak
#

This seasons title is dogwater but my ego wants it

lament otter
#

Killed Court, but I dont think we'll bother with Queen

restive peak
#

If you killed court you can kill queen

#

She's easier

young swan
#

they prob dont have enough time

thick fossil
# restive peak NA, so 3420 rn

Yeah, it will most likely end at 3440. I'm pretty disgusted with IO in general. Had a 3300 BM hunter and her Disc priest friend join my key. It was painfully obvious she was boosted/carried and the rest of their team did the lifting. She didn't even do 1.5m overall while having PI on cool down.

young swan
#

only 2 weeks right

iron portal
restive peak
#

I don't think title gets much higher than all 16s w 2/3 17s, really

young swan
#

pretty doomed

restive peak
#

I think 3430 is max

#

16s are tight, most groups won't be able to even carry 17s

#

Which means sales will be lower

#

The problem is the current scaling is insanity

thick fossil
#

Always sales though, don't be surprised if it's the 3440.

restive peak
#

So like if you can do a 15, you can't necessarily do a 16

#

IDK I was talking to most of the guys I know who sell

thick fossil
#

17 is where most things will just one shot you. As in the unavoidable stuff that is.

restive peak
#

They're barely bothering between PTR and people they try to carry getting clapped in 16/17s w/o cds

frank dawn
#

trying to sell in this season sounds fucking awful tbh

#

playing it normally is bad enough keks

thick fossil
#

It was fine early in the season. Selling 10s.

#

I didn't do much this season, but s1 df, damn. Made bank getting portals and ksm.

dense elbow
#

Low-key is not a problem. Title keys tho, self play keys, ain't worth the hassle

stiff barn
dense elbow
#

Ofc, some make a living doing it. Not a suprise at any level

sour tundra
#

feels bad all these content creators are going to get us hard nerfed 😦 all their videos are titled "warriors are meta now" warriors are the best we have ever seen" and warriors cranking in season 2"

dense elbow
#

All I can say is: If they say so

earnest canyon
young swan
#

our sim numbers are very strong relatively, but where we are now might be where blizzard wants everyone to be

thick fossil
#

I will be happy to be meta. The petty side of me will bask in the tears of Ret, and Shaman and not invite them. keks

dense elbow
#

Boii I wish I had half of that hopium in my veins

thick fossil
#

I'm a one trick, only play Warrior. So me getting a chance to be meta would be fantastic.

#

Will it happen? Prolly not, we're not mages.

dense elbow
#

Just going to be another season of me toping meters in PuGs, yet being 5-20% behind my peers
Hopefully I can get to play with them without feeling like a total anchor

Us being that level above fine would be good enough for me

#

Ofc, my case is going to be doomed keks as I like OF and Slayer

glad coyote
#

just sandbag the first 2 weeks

#

SANDBAG!

dense elbow
#

Warriors don't sandbag. That is retribution talk

thick fossil
#

Sometimes I'm able to keep up with meta classes in PUGs. Only time I get totally blown out of the water is when they get PI on cool down.

fast mural
dense elbow
#

I take the nerf, I won't defile my honour by demeaning Zug zug

#

Zug zug is what we are, you don't fight it or try to suppress it

thick fossil
#

Sandbagging is indeed Ret Paladin like words.

lilac temple
#

Does anyone know what is doing better now on ptr with the buffs to arms and fury?

dense elbow
#

No clue, I presume arms is a bit ahead. Ain't been a day and ppl not been really testing

#

Sims will likely point to arms

#

Actual content? Time will tell

random hill
#

Frag trollin for sure

#

right?

coarse nest
#

bro get arms off that list!

random hill
#

aint no way we are that good

warm crag
#

Nah we aint, delete your warrior asap

random hill
#

this must be OMEGA copium xD

#

enh no data Kapp

thick fossil
#

What is this? Classes that got most changes?

dense elbow
#

If you go into #protection, you will see that prot Sims equal dam to fury.
I do believe the placement of pwarr based on current info seems... Low

opal sapphire
#

Its put on No Data though. So it shouldnt be seen as bad per se

dense elbow
#

No data is F, no cop out in a tierlist

shut tusk
#

hey guys, is this the strongest build currently if I'm doing 10s?

#

Or it's only for higher keys?

dense elbow
#

Play what you enjoy, DPS diff won't matter

shut tusk
#

I don't know what's the gameplay diff

#

I'll start trying builds

#

but want to know which one is the most effective

dense elbow
#

Try out the different builds, see what you vibe with

For warrior, for 10s, it is maybe Thane or Slayer with OF? Hard to really know.

frank dawn
#

I think 10s is right at the breakpoint where you can play whatever you want and it's gonna be close

dense elbow
#

Art says SMF is close in a 10 okayge

frank dawn
regal vector
#

You could play whatever you wanted in 10s this season and it's going to be even easier next season

frank dawn
#

well sure, but that wasn't the question. I think in terms of purely what's best the statement is still true that Slayer vs Thane is gonna be real close at that key level before Slayer burst starts to lose value

#

and then before next patch where Slayer burst doesn't matter anymore. 🫔 Odyn Fury. RIP

dense elbow
#

Odyns Fury copium will get a 51% buff

wary fjord
mossy fox
waxen vale
modest condor
#

nah it should have a fuck boomkins tier as well

fading sky
#

keep buffing tenderize

#

it was fun

sly crane
#

how can I truly play the game if fury isnt bottom tier

acoustic seal
#

tettles sandbagging boomkin so hard he RP'd an entire tier as aug evoker

#

truly taking one for the team's psy op campaign

clever belfry
#

classic peyton move

mossy fox
#

lmao i was just picking thumbnail for next video and

#

i feel like this s2 is gonna end with the last one

verbal garden
#

How accurate is Wowanalyzer? Its saying I'm not pressing Crushing Blow or Bloodbath enough but I feel like I am when they are up as long as I don't over cap rage.

modest condor
#

warrio.png

#

it's accurate as far as bloodbath and crushing blow is concerned

mossy fox
#

actually dont know why i saved so many versions of the same one

#

must be small changes or i'm senile

fickle bluff
thick fossil
# mossy fox

The look of depression on warriorchanges2.png seems legit enough. lol

fickle bluff
#

thane simc fixes got my ass feeling like warriornerfs.png

shut tusk
clever belfry
#

thanussy in the bin

slim coral
#

we must remain neutral

#

I do not want to get nerfed week 1 again

hallow sphinx
clever belfry
hallow sphinx
#

love anda

whole yacht
#

wiyugbiwjbg

clever belfry
#

love the realest of real ones (gajeel)

whole yacht
#

get a room

sinful spoke
sinful spoke
#

I made my post and we got buffed

#

Twice

#

They listened

slim coral
#

there ya go

#

proof is in the pudding

dapper goblet
#

perma mute baze, madox for yellow

slim coral
dapper goblet
glad coyote
#

just remember to sandbag the first 2 weeks

dapper goblet
#

3+ warrior tier

#

(again)

slim coral
#

about time

#

it's been too long

modest condor
#

yeah it's been all the way since nerubar palace that we last had 3 warriors in rwf

slim coral
#

yeah it's been 6 months

sinful spoke
#

Bazed for yellow

#

Cheche for blue

#

Xeos ban

dapper goblet
#

so you want to kill skyhold

#

xan jr

slim coral
#

Xan has way worse takes than me

covert blaze
slim coral
#

I never called the legendary bad

#

in terms of the dps gain

#

The only bad part of the lego was the casting effect

sinful spoke
#

The on use was aids

#

Lego itself was giga

lost saffron
#

@oblique trail why are you noober

dapper goblet
lost saffron
sinful spoke
#

Xeos didnt u play mage at one point

lost saffron
dapper goblet
#

in hfc

modest condor
dapper goblet
sinful spoke
#

xeos played mage so

#

His takes have got to be the worst

dapper goblet
#

everyone and their mother played mage in hfc

#

but it was also my alt

#

so doesnt count

young swan
#

the legendary was bad

#

3% gain

#

buffed 3 times

young swan
#

"legendary"

gleaming siren
clever belfry
#

@oblique trail woke?

slim coral
#

or was that just xeos misquoting you

dapper goblet
#

he did say that

#

cant find the copypasta

slim coral
#

I don't remember what 50k was at the time

#

in terms of percent

dapper goblet
#

bad weapon 22k sim dps 50mil damage in keys xan skyhold yellow name twitter warrior egirl slayer silver junkrat in ow2

young swan
hallow sphinx
dapper goblet
#

xan bad at a game made in 2007

#

shocker

hallow sphinx
#

yea its wild

clever belfry
#

game is older than him

#

give him a break

dapper goblet
#

xan is 34

formal stump
#

find a community tab the same as joining a guild?

#

or is that seperate?

young swan
young swan
dapper goblet
whole yacht
#

can someone gimme a beesechurger

oblique trail
clever belfry
#

gyus i think he is WOKE

lost saffron
#

i think banezi is the wokest of them all

warm crag
thick fossil
glad coyote
thick fossil
#

Then you know, that no matter how much glazed this donut does or doesn't get, makes no difference to them nerfing us or not. It will come down to the raid performance, and how well our damage profile is for it.

#

Which looking at the raid, and even some of the M+ dungeons, we will prolly wind up mid. Our cleave does not cover enough distance for a lot of the add encounters.

rough orbit
#

fellas ive been afk for weeks waiting on the new season - whats the word on arms vs fury for next season or is it too early to tell

#

also inb4 obligatory "it depends on the encounter"

#

i think we all understand that

thick fossil
#

Still too early. We have no idea where everyone is going to land.

lost saffron
#

Yes we do

rough orbit
#

just generally speaking

#

bc these arms buffs look saucy

lost saffron
#

generally speaking you answered your own question

rough orbit
#

true and fair

lost saffron
#

we cant answer the question you are asking because we dont know what your standards for ā€œgenerallyā€ are

#

so it can only be it depends on encounter/content

rough orbit
#

mythic progression and decent-ish keys

#

its prob too early, i'll wait for the geniuses to work it out

#

thats why wowhead pays em

lost saffron
#

the bosses definitely look like fury bosses

#

with a few arms encounters mixed in

rough orbit
#

good deal

thick fossil
#

That two target one is most likely gonna be an Arms one.

#

The mech fight.

lost saffron
#

something along the lines of 4/3 or 5/2

#

with fury and arms respectively

rough orbit
#

ngl kinda want to full send arms and see big numbers

#

but responsibility to raid team etc

#

but 4/3 is good enough

#

carry on gents, thank ya kindly

lost saffron
#

the relevant bosses are

#

or rather

#

mugze is singletarget with very little cleave

rough orbit
#

tbf the only one that -really- matters is the last one

lost saffron
#

so more of an arms boss most likely

rough orbit
#

with the way we progress

remote bobcat
#

am i the only one who absolutely hates the current state of ptr fury?

lost saffron
#

with the way content has been

#

last 2 are very relevant

#

usually

rough orbit
#

or with the way I play the game rather*

#

dont want to lump all my guidlies in, most of them play the entire season

restive peak
#

I’m catching up on these bosses. Kong vs godzilla wtf lmao

summer crater
#

Kongzilla

lost saffron
#

mugze looks like a very tough boss

#

could be another tindral depending on tuning

rough orbit
#

im trying to be in and out in a month

lost saffron
#

if anything stays

#

remotely close to ptr tests

#

the content will have 6 very difficult bosses

#

the raid layout is also

#

first boss into choice of 4 bosses

remote bobcat
lost saffron
#

so either its 4 free bosses or they are gonna be tough

rough orbit
#

by choice you mean whatever the RWF gamers do

#

as is tradition

lost saffron
#

depends really

#

on how they decide to do it

#

because if you have a choice of 4 bosses and all of them are easy

#

you can just pick loot you want

#

basically

#

if they are really hard

#

then its gonna be different

restive peak
#

It’ll end up following the RWF, it always goes. They’ll have figured out which order gets them gear efficiently aka easiest first

#

And 90% of guilds will follow

rough orbit
#

path of least resistance typically

lost saffron
#

thats just flat out wrong

rough orbit
#

since those boys are built for speed

lost saffron
#

rwf want to maximize their gear for first two weeks

#

thats very different from what everyone else does

#

if you have to choose which bosses you are killing

rough orbit
#

ya thats fair - theyre playing to win, everyone else is playing to finish

#

different vibes

lost saffron
#

youre not gonna end up following what rwf does

#

af least you shouldnt

#

most likely

restive peak
#

90% of guilds follow the same path in the raid order almost every time lol

lost saffron
#

unless the choice is limited

rough orbit
#

eh we probably will

#

because ultimately it doesnt really matter

restive peak
#

Just based on having the available information as more of them kill each fight

rough orbit
#

playing to finish, etc

lost saffron
#

if you can only kill lets say

#

2 of the 4 bosses

restive peak
#

I mean yeah if 1 is insanely tuned tight and 1 is easy, I mean assuming they’re similar difficulties

lost saffron
#

exactly

#

if they are all first try bosses dor rwf guilds

restive peak
#

I’m basing it on the assumption they’re similar

rough orbit
#

our tiers only last around 3 weeks to a month depending so boss order is kind of whatever

#

but i dont speak for everyone

lost saffron
#

then most guilds shouldnt rwf

#

they should pick based on gear

restive peak
#

I mean they’ll be done in 10 days probably

lost saffron
#

for rwf guilds it doesnt matter which order they go

restive peak
#

Rest of us ain’t gonna be done that soon lol

lost saffron
#

since theyre killing them anyways

#

exactly

rough orbit
#

ok but anyway looking at a relatively even arms/fury tier atm, all subject to change

#

with gallywix tbd

restive peak
#

4 options at the same time is a weird take from blizz, wonder what inspired that

rough orbit
#

ty lads

lost saffron
#

its like

rough orbit
#

(gallywix likely to be fury because surviving is op)

lost saffron
#

if you could just go

#

to bloodhound horror

#

third and 4th boss

#

without order

restive peak
#

Anyone got a link to who has the best VODs thus far? Missing testing was not the play, I’m so behind

lost saffron
#

rwf would have just killed them in w/e order

restive peak
#

Man I’m actually gonna be sad if this tier has the same problem though

#

That fuckin sucked

#

Just crank the 1st 4 then a wall forever

lost saffron
#

but most guilds should go for neck first

restive peak
#

I’d rather 1st is giga easy, 2nd easy, and a steady difficult curve from there

#

Yeah true

lost saffron
#

we got rather far

restive peak
#

I guess I haven’t looked into the loot etc at all

lost saffron
#

during our tests

restive peak
#

Are there any huge items like sik neck?

lost saffron
#

yes

#

there are alot of weapons

restive peak
#

You got any VODs? Would be nice to warr POV in the DMs

#

We love that

oblique trail
#

There are but they're mostly from the later bosses iirc

#

At least the weapons we care about iirc should be from 6th and last boss

restive peak
#

Gotcha so no time soon

oblique trail
#

Not sure where the one armed bandit boss is in the raid exactly

restive peak
#

Tell me we don’t have to do those fuckin barrels on the 4th boss

lost saffron
#

i dont have vods

#

reloe has vods

#

or robin

#

or ponky

#

they all streamed testing

restive peak
#

Fuck kk, ima creep Robins

#

Ranged POV probably BIS for quick catchup

lost saffron
#

reloe probably has the most indepth stuff though

#

tank pov

restive peak
#

Tank POVs give me anxiety

lost saffron
#

oh imfiredup also tested with us on the last few mythic tests

restive peak
#

Just shoved into a wall

lost saffron
#

so you can check that too

restive peak
#

That’s random, not with liquid? O.o

lost saffron
#

hold on

#

am i stupid

#

one sec

restive peak
#

Idk man we’re warriors

lost saffron
#

i mean the ex liquid raider guy

restive peak
#

Ah kk, was gonna say…that’d be a wild loss haha

lost saffron
#

uhm

#

the guy who had another guy with a similar name

restive peak
#

I’m watchin the Max ranking them vid rn but it ain’t helpin lmao

slim coral
slim coral
covert blaze
#

let's get a perma mute on baze

sinful spoke
#

Anyways upload them to youtube

#

Twitch vods are aids

formal stump
#

How do I get to Uldir raid? I dont see on my map

#

Do I have to get out of the old Azeroth mode?

covert blaze
formal stump
#

Figured it out thanks

#

hmm. I get the boat to Dragon isles but the boat to Zandalar doesnt show up

#

There something I need to do?

#

nvmd. google answered

whole yacht
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

#

thanks for coming to my TEDtalk

slim coral
sinful spoke
cinder hinge
#

Anyone have a vod or video of warrior after the changes on ptr?

slim coral
random hill
slim coral
sudden tusk
#

arms is gonna crank

junior gale
#

Sssssshhhhhhhhh arms is bad

#

Bottom tier dps

hallow sphinx
hallow sphinx
#

blow up

sudden tusk
#

oh dont you worry i am

#

mental ilness in a screenshot

feral ivy
#

i have a question on mythic court.. there is a part where the boss charges and u suppose to ignore it and go straight to other boss for pull in do we save cd's for the next charge where we can actuallly dps

hallow sphinx
#

pugged 2 titles

#

never again

sudden tusk
#

oh i wont be getting title its too late

hallow sphinx
#

I forgot how bad this raid is

#

I shouldve blue balled longer

sudden tusk
#

at least you have xeos to tell you to xplode every other boss

covert blaze
#

what even is title on NA

#

right now

#

@sudden tusk just get 100 io bro

sudden tusk
#

i mean if i REALLY wanted it i could annoy the shit out of my guilds tank and just get it

#

its just not worth doing that though

#

besides im probably at about as high IO as you can get as a non meta class while pugging

#

every single 16 is clogged by rerollers

#

i just started the season way too late since i was doin other things

#

90% of the actual decent players stopped playing about 3 weeks ago

#

all thats left is the chaf

slim coral
#

we arent nearly as good as EU

restive peak
#

I got back above it today but it really is a shit scenario for warrs

#

We really do giga suck compared to meta classes and it makes the 17s much tighter

hallow sphinx
#

Baze tanking NA title range

#

crazy

restive peak
#

Baze featured in Max videos, on the up and up

slim coral
slim coral
restive peak
#

You’re just on the dratnos test clips hahaha

slim coral
#

ah lol

modest condor
#

bazed was sandbagging for us

covert blaze
#

glaze ramping

modest condor
#

thanks man

restive peak
pulsar helm
#

@slim coral 🤔 ?

#

@young swan 🤔 !

slim coral
slim coral
feral ivy
#

wooo now 8/8

#

first time

sinful spoke
#

nice

#

whats parse

modest condor
#

grats

#

parse on prog kill weird

feral ivy
#

court? 49 i fucked up a cd part and my rotation a few times

#

im just glad i can go back to queen and redo my parse on that

modest condor
#

oh it wasnt a prog kill?

feral ivy
#

yes and no

#

yes for me guild no

#

guild as well yes because thje original ppl who did kill it left or stopped playing

restive peak
#

Parses are a meme

#

ST parses goated, all others meh

feral ivy
#

i just want to redo my 11 and 4 parse on 2 bosses

#

at least around 50+