fury

[fading sky]

Also depends if grp kills adds to fadt

[oblique trail]

Considering the fact they decided to turbo buff both Slayer's Strike and Reap a few months ago

[edgy widget]

especially when the same communities constantly complain they want bigger cooldowns, more impactful abilities, etc, etc

[oblique trail]

I still think those buffs were a mistake

[edgy widget]

I mean nerf reap, ok - now that burst is 1.6 instead of 1.8
but it also means Reap in normal situations (i.e. not Ovinax's millions of targets) drops further and feels less impactful

and now we have a new complaint on our hand

I mean the most obvious solution to your particular problem would be that maybe Reap just shouldn't proc from Unhinged, but I think a lot of players would also consider that decidedly less fun

[frank dawn]

they were, but all the nerfs and buff both were driven by the (imo) dumb raid design. They absolutely were not going to buff anything that was bursty

so we got reap/strike

[oblique trail]

Yet Reap turned out to be the biggest difference in our burst doing damage or not

[clever belfry]

what if we have the same design next patch 👁️

[oblique trail]

After they nerfed the rest of our burst tools

[fading sky]

Lets be honedt

[edgy widget]

also worth pointing out that Slayer still has less AoE than Thane, so arguably it needs even more buffs to the "sustain" portions of its damage

[oblique trail]

We still kill adds quick enough, back then as well

[fading sky]

Slayer as a hero talent is shit

[frank dawn]

eh idk about that

[oblique trail]

But there's just a stark difference between Unhinged proccing 1 or 3 Reaps in burst AoE

[frank dawn]

I like Slayer a lot, it's just got some oddities to work out with tuning now

[fading sky]

Or well they designed themselves into a corner

[frozen berry]

Meh, I've liked Slayer so much that I've barely played Mt Thane as Fury this entire expansion lol

[frank dawn]

plz no

[clever belfry]

proccing 0 of them is ~50% btw

at the 3 unhinged hit ones

[edgy widget]

I think it mostly boils down to a pretty simple statement of fact

• power players are never happy with any influence of RNG in their performance
  And that's perfectly valid, but doesn't really mesh with Blizzard's intention of injecting more RNG and variability into the game(play), which is a response to years of very static sitautions in which players tend to gear and perform their rotation in extremely similar and predictable ways

[clever belfry]

when u add more it goes down obv 👍 (so any subsequent BS)

[clever belfry]

oh i got some news sir, but its not 20 mobs but like 5

[flat river]

Guys

I've just been told that a warrior has been farming number 1 logs by having a DH as his pet somehow

[modest condor]

is it my turn to post that next?

[edgy widget]

DHs should be put on a leash tbh

[clever belfry]

i dont know the lore, smells like a simple ctrl+f log edit tho 👍

[slim coral]

Honestly I just want the 5 target cap to be removed shit's annoying

[clever belfry]

easy way to get permd from wclogs

[oblique trail]

The guy with a full Chinese boost roster also got his logs killed

[gilded pawn]

Edating to the next level

[clever belfry]

thats sad

[slim coral]

how does this even work?

A toy?

[flat river]

No idea

[oblique trail]

He made my 1 digit Ansurek parse a 2 digit parse

[flat river]

A friend of mine messaged me

[oblique trail]

He had it coming

[flat river]

And sent me those

[slim coral]

I don't understand how you get someoen else to show up as your damage

[flat river]

Same

Don't forget the pet icon

[clever belfry]

the pet icon is auto generated u goobers

[slim coral]

ok but how does that work?

[gilded pawn]

Edit logs

With notepad

[clever belfry]

i gave u one possible solution JUST ABOVE

it could technically be a logging error too, but i highly doubt that

[remote bobcat]

wait this is my screenshot, i made this

Angry_cat

[edgy widget]

that seems the most obvious solution yeah, logs are just text files after all, you can do w/e you want with them (but if WCL catches you, you're gonna get the hammer)

[remote bobcat]

get ur own screenshot

[slim coral]

yeah but I don't understand how wowlogs counts it as a parse

[remote bobcat]

Angry_cat

[slim coral]

if its edited

I'm a tad slow when it comes to wowlogs

[edgy widget]

WCL just reads and translates the data, it has some tools for autodetecting manipulation, but not that many

most of the time it will upload just about whatever you put in there, assuming its valid ofc

[slim coral]

interesting did not know that

[flat river]

Ok then explain to me why melee attacks have also the DH damage on them

[edgy widget]

unless it's an already known issue that they've specifically flagged already, anyway

[clever belfry]

you could fairly easily tune up your logs by about 5% with very little odds of being detected

but if u do youre a true lowlife and should consider logging off

[edgy widget]

yeah, people were already doing that years ago

[whole yacht]

What do you mean tune up logs?

[edgy widget]

change the numbers

[oblique trail]

Anda did that this tier to get orange on Silken Court

[clever belfry]

number = number * 1.05

voila

[clever belfry]

i literally have 93

im dogshit

[flat river]

XD

[edgy widget]

your crit didn't deal 41858684 damage, it dealt (edited) 48858684 damage instead!

[gilded pawn]

Yea

[opaque falcon]

When r they gonna announce the new season

[oblique trail]

thought you got the orange last raid

gg

[clever belfry]

gg

[flat river]

He edited and still got purple

gg

[clever belfry]

im shit this ssn

cant pad on kyveza true

[edgy widget]

no, he edited purple to misdirect you from all the other logs he edited

[clever belfry]

fax

[flat river]

REAL

[clever belfry]

i have a log scraper to give me every ability i used into an ERT note

[edgy widget]

"ofc I didn't edit, why would I give myself a 93?" he says, after slapping 4 99's and a 100 in there

[clever belfry]

editing logs would be childs play from here

could probs rewrite it within 5min

(half of this would be counting to 37 for the combat log event dmg instance)

[edgy widget]

but yeah, people have been caught and blacklisted for that kind of thing, it was really popular for awhile in like... WoD/Legion

if you were smart about it, you could prob get away with it though

[flat river]

How DO they get caught anyways

[clever belfry]

oh u got downtime with some mechanic?

why dont u just add 3 casts there :)

whoopsies!

[frozen berry]

Is it worse to have downtime for Slayer or Mt Thane? Or no real difference? I know Fury is notoriously bad when there's downtime.

[oblique trail]

Worse for Slayer

Downtime = less Slayer's Strike procs = less BS CDR

[flat river]

Question, couldn't you technically copy someone else's logs and upload them?

[clever belfry]

u could

very easily so

but like

get a grip ?

[frozen berry]

Keep hearing that the next teir is bad for melee, so melee that doesn't suffer from downtime are doing better? Esp if they can do some ranged? Ala Ret pally and Enhance shammy?

[compact siren]

slayer's strike = low damage

[remote bobcat]

you would be surprised

[clever belfry]

true slayers strike damage

[oblique trail]

My slayer's strike outpaces your entire rotation

[oblique trail]

I have still yet to get this WA

[compact siren]

that is actually factual

[oblique trail]

And at this point I'm too lazy

[chilly plume]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[oblique trail]

My brain is simply so efficient that I can always keep count while doing my rotation, at which point I'll get SD

(this is real)

[clever belfry]

1 2 SCHWING

[frank dawn]

I care a lot less about Slayer strike rng if that's what they think they need to use to help tune us on single target

[clever belfry]

1 2 SCHWING

[compact siren]

banezi plays with no audio or UI

what a king

just has a "feel"

[frozen berry]

He beleives in 'the heart of the cards'? 😛

[gleaming siren]

Banezi believes in balls

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

balls indeed

[oblique trail]

Singular

[gleaming siren]

Bro

log out of Raid: Shadow Legends

right now

[smoky vale]

ball

[gleaming siren]

Warrior will be a top tier ST blaster next tier

[slim coral]

nah

[clever belfry]

source: voices in my head

[gleaming siren]

Shut up Bazed

[clever belfry]

shut up bazed

[oblique trail]

This will be me from the bench when our guild realises that melee are so bad that we don't even need battle shout anymore

[warm crag]

Shut up bazed

[oblique trail]

[compact siren]

Shut up bazed

[slim coral]

Arms is dead

[wind torrent]

fury will be mid ST

[gleaming siren]

source: voices in your head

[wind torrent]

i do got a 5 head

https://tenor.com/view/snl-ugly-small-hands-scary-big-forehead-gif-7744749

[gleaming siren]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[upbeat swan]

Isn't every indicator that fury ST is wild rn

[clever belfry]

we need to sandbag

(we are not mages nor shamans nor boomies)

nor warlocks

[wind torrent]

actually less than aug ST tbh

[upbeat swan]

"Tactical downtime"

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-shoo-away-gif-13653609800890535042

Go back to the shadow priest discord bud

[clever belfry]

source: voices in your head

[gleaming siren]

Nah the people who type there are weird

[clever belfry]

@saeldur

fuck

[gleaming siren]

@Saeldur

[mossy fox]

no need according to youtube comments

[young swan]

@saeldur

[mossy fox]

fury sucks according to my comments

[frozen berry]

Was that at me? lol

[young swan]

guys fury is bad

[modest condor]

@saeldur

[clever belfry]

i pinged him in guild disc

[clever belfry]

yes

[wind torrent]

Fury in the gutter

[compact siren]

yes

[gleaming siren]

yes

[frozen berry]

lol

[remote bobcat]

regardless of numbers, fury does suck, 2 talents are dead

[frozen berry]

I have it up on my 2nd monitor running stuff :p

[clever belfry]

atleast play a good gacha

(theres none)

[frozen berry]

Azur Lane?

[clever belfry]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[gleaming siren]

Like Capybara Go

Azur Lane is probably the ONE gacha you should not play over Raid

[frozen berry]

Who doesn't like their ship waifus? 😛

[gleaming siren]

I dont like children

tyvm

[clever belfry]

same king

[gleaming talon]

As someone with kids. There is no reset button 😅

[lament otter]

[clever belfry]

@dapper goblet

[frozen berry]

Did soemthing happen to Jeventes? He hasn't posted a vid in like 2 months? o.O

[clever belfry]

bro is dropping

[frozen berry]

Oh, he's busy irl stuff

[sullen dove]

madox for yellow

[frozen berry]

Was watching Critcakes latest vid and realized I hadn't seen anything from Jeventes in a bit 😦

[sudden tusk]

comments are super funny becuase it feels like its either insane dooming or people who are super positive

[dapper goblet]

xan is a tard

[clever belfry]

sus

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[oblique trail]

enhancement is bad

[remote bobcat]

clueless~1

[sudden tusk]

enhance might be the most annoying spec i've ever played

[compact siren]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[sullen dove]

just drop a totem

30m dps

I see no issue

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-hoyoverse-motivated-gif-7272010783378449680

[whole yacht]

Dude. I love capybara go

[modest condor]

delete wow

[restive peak]

NGL Enhance takes my ADHD to another planet

[quaint forge]

We're progging Queen and I'm currently assigned CDs for platform 1. I'm advocating for P2, but we have an odd comp and the RL is rather insistent that I use CDs on platform 1. Is this cringe or am I overthinking it?

[clever belfry]

its totally fine

[sudden tusk]

raid should od enough danmage at this point that it shouldnt matter

[clever belfry]

if youre progging now youre likely to not have cds for first adds p3 if you use your cds correctly on 2nd platform anyway

[quaint forge]

Aright cool. I will relent and step in line 🙂

[clever belfry]

you can save OF and maybe BS for 2nd plat, if the smallies arent dead by the time the 3 big mobs are stacked

if the smallies are dead before that point theres no point rly

[quaint forge]

I'm taking second portal on P2 currently.

[clever belfry]

so first on platform1 ?

or do you mean second portal platform2

[quaint forge]

Yes

Second portal on platform 2

[sullen dove]

plat2 p2…

Xan silver3 junkrat

[clever belfry]

yeah ambig langussy

[quaint forge]

😬

[clever belfry]

eh then u can still get short stuff off before u gotta leave, youre leaping to the portal?

or do you have to do the early leap up for your group

[quaint forge]

Yeah I have to or I'm hosed/hosing the raid.

Or else I'm just sitting there twiddling my thumbs

[sullen dove]

I mean 2nd portal still like 15 sec into plat 2

Leap up and do some damage and after wrest maybe start thinking about going over there

Go in before your second wrest

[slim coral]

Just do what RL ask

[quaint forge]

Yeah we're just getting there so the priority is actually getting through so healers can manage.

[clever belfry]

i think 2nd portal is ass for the ranged platform, btu i honestly dont concern myself with those 👍

[quaint forge]

sir yes sir

tbh assignments aren't set in stone. we're trying to figure out what's optimal with our dogshit comp.

[slim coral]

Pad doesnt really matter if your guild can't get past p1 consistently

[clever belfry]

well if you use cds on platform2 to pad youre doing it wrong

if youre sending them before u hit all 3 big mobs you are griefing

[sullen dove]

small adds gotta die

but yea waiting until they get to big thing good

[dapper goblet]

they hated him because he spoke the truth

[clever belfry]

i mean if they die earlier ur roar and OF deal more damage to the big men 👍

[dapper goblet]

people think u just log on blue man and do top dam..

[sullen dove]

Me when totem is 50% of your damage

[smoky vale]

hi xeos

im owning on blue

[sudden tusk]

lemme just make sure to have double tempest setup and rolling between dawnbreaker boss RP for my ascendance window yup

[frozen berry]

For Ansurek I'm basically saving most of my cds for the webs phase in P1, I have to be breaking people out of the webs or alot of them die -_-

[quaint forge]

this is why i refuse to take mages in m+

[sullen dove]

Third web pretty normal time to use cds

[quaint forge]

Huh, weird. We have all those assigned nobody should ever get rooted.

[sullen dove]

not that bad

but yea ideally they all clear themselves

[clever belfry]

like warrior does good dam to the 3 big men

[frozen berry]

Tbh we're carrying some peeps, this is Heroic btw, we're only 4/8 Mythic lol

[quaint forge]

oooh yeah heroic that's the way.

[sullen dove]

o heroic 💀 your cds shouldn’t rly matter to be able to break em

web blades don’t even kill I don’t think

[clever belfry]

ansurek with 30 people, 8 of which were afk week 1 was fun

u got to pad so much

[sullen dove]

they can eat some and think about their choices

zhai doing 400 kills be like

[quaint forge]

You guys want to see a funny clip?

[smoky vale]

zhai has like 800 kills by now

wait nah

its easily more

[quaint forge]

https://www.twitch.tv/paneftw/clip/CautiousBrainyGazellePogChamp-YFXE0ipqroMGk0eV

still haven't bought my lotto ticket, but I need to.

[frozen berry]

I just need the damm ring so I can stoip having to bring my warrior to heroic runs lol, wanna bring my alts to it but that damm ring won't drop lol

[sullen dove]

Ain’t it not even better than a crafted

maybe if u need a lot of crit but 636 crafted with some nice stats I think generally better

the ring effect is kinda dog

[quaint forge]

I think it has nice synergy with the Sacbrood trinket.

[smoky vale]

its legit useless

!

[sullen dove]

If saccy sac counts as you doing nature perhaps

am sacless would not know

[sour frigate]

some 0.00001% minmax here?

[whole yacht]

I found a baby eastern diamondback rattlesnake at work today

He was cute trying to rattle but he was too young. So it didn't do anything

[quaint forge]

It took me a while to sim out of the heroic version of the ring /shrug

But I wasn't paying attention to it in practice tbh

so no idea how useful it actually was.

[frozen berry]

So heroic Seal of the Poisned Pact isn't worth?

[maiden ingot]

The sim would basically account for that synergy and it still doesn't really do much to make it better.

[dapper goblet]

not how it works dr who robot

[sour frigate]

sim...

[frozen berry]

My 2 crafted spots are already taken by sword and wrist anyways.

[slim coral]

Nerf totem

[sour frigate]

u can have more crafted spots

its only embelishments what are restricted to 2

[eager thorn]

^

[sullen dove]

sure looks like how it works to me

[dapper goblet]

tardis 1 and 2

thats like saying you all u had to do was apply deepwounds in BFA

still had to press yourbuttons correclty

[slim coral]

I'm just memeing for fun

[dapper goblet]

not my fault the totem is the only thign doing damage

lets get a perma mute on baze

[sullen dove]

Whirlwind bloodthirst

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[sullen dove]

I’m owning on green

in sod

[clever belfry]

(Lucid -> CS -> 14 exe -> CS -> Exe)

[sullen dove]

only good version of classic

[dapper goblet]

anyways

[smoky vale]

are you playing horde or alli

[frozen berry]

I raided in vanilla and never undeerstood the appeal of playing Classic/Hardcore/SoD...

[sullen dove]

do I look like I want to live in a mud hut capital city

[dapper goblet]

the most fun arms has ever been!

[sour frigate]

green is or warrior right?

orc

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/drooling-slobber-spongebob-patrick-star-yummy-gif-16742378

[sullen dove]

hunter

[smoky vale]

wtf

[clever belfry]

there genuinely people thinking that

somehow

[smoky vale]

racist

[modest condor]

a wild parry appears

[sullen dove]

prepatch df waaaay better

Instead of exe you get condemn

works even better

[dapper goblet]

whats worse is there are some people who defend corruption

[sullen dove]

WHAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUCK IS THAT INFINITE STARS

[dapper goblet]

you werent even born yet swordish

[sullen dove]

real

[frozen berry]

lol, corruption was kinda fun

[sullen dove]

am infant

[dapper goblet]

lemme go do this world quest for blue pants 200 ilvls lower for 500% damage increase

[clever belfry]

but bro it was good 891391 weeks in when u had vendor that u only had to grind 80h of visions for

(i had echoing void 5 in hc week from RAID ITEMS) i was COOKING

[dapper goblet]

vendor the last 3 weeks of the expansion

cluegi

[clever belfry]

dont ask derp what he called me

[sullen dove]

rotating vendor btw

you can buy the one you want for a week every month

cluegi

[frozen berry]

Twilight Devestation was lul

[sullen dove]

Me when twilight devastation pulls 3 entire floors of tol dagor in 1 proc

[whole yacht]

I actually really liked TD. It was fun

[slim coral]

I got TD on my getiku

it was my first tier

[sullen dove]

insta muted

[slim coral]

was op

[frozen berry]

So how ya'll feel of Theatre of Pain returning to the M<+ pool?

[slim coral]

Amazing

[clever belfry]

7

7

7

7

7

7

[dapper goblet]

best dungeon in shadowlands

not even close

[clever belfry]

shit bait xeos

[dapper goblet]

i'm serious

only dungeon i would do for weekly

[fair swallow]

Me orc. me see big number.
me happy.

[dapper goblet]

and maybe some mists

[gilded pawn]

Would you do ice spice weekly

[dapper goblet]

daily

hourly

[slim coral]

Halls of atonment was fast

so I liked that one too

[coarse nest]

Bro corruption acquisition was dog shit no denying it.
However, stacking stats to the moon was so much fun that’s what people “defend”

[gilded pawn]

Yeah wipes were fast too

Easy to go next

[slim coral]

wipes?

that key was a joke

[dapper goblet]

[slim coral]

was like a 15 min run

[gilded pawn]

Not if you have 3 people on fresh max levels

Day before reset

[slim coral]

uh

can't say I had that issue too often lmao

[clever belfry]

just go on the tree

oh wait thats not a public strat

whoops!

[lament otter]

[coarse nest]

JuSt Go On ThE tReE

[frozen berry]

wait, you can spell reflect the reaping scythe from last boss in ToP?

[fading sky]

Yes

Taunt and run

[clever belfry]

unless they decide to change it yes

[frozen berry]

Just saw Critcake taunting boss off tank to take the Reaping Scythe to Spell reflect lol

[eager thorn]

spell reflect op

p sure you can pull the 1st boss in mists so the first bolt is targetting you to sr

[fading sky]

And still loose to enhance on st

[gilded pawn]

Yeah this is old tech

[covert blaze]

nyalotha unholy is my most fave spec ever

[coarse nest]

Real!

[frozen berry]

B4 the nerfs, on on Silken Court I'd pull the caster boss quite often and just popped Spell reflect to reflect the bolts for some nice dps till the tank got her off me lol

[opaque falcon]

When they gonna nerf us?

[modest condor]

the day raid releases

[clever path]

3 weeks ago they just wont tell us till 11.1 launch

[opaque falcon]

Rip

[sudden tusk]

Ive had to pre request time off that i can cancell becuase they wont give us a launch date

its annoying

[clever path]

im thinking they will announce tomorrow

but thats just me going off the timeline thats been talked about

[vague cedar]

does anyone know if its possible to track frenzy on plater ?

would be a big help to know what target im getting frenzy buff from

[clever belfry]

its possible, but easier achieved through a weakaura

(this exists)

[vague cedar]

can u link the weakaura if possible

[inner zinc]

Kinda wish they would change frenzy to not drop if you ramp another target. Always feels shitty having to rebuild stack after target switch

[slim coral]

Bro tyler1 made a whole blacklist after the molten core incident lmao

Truly a wow gamer

[frozen berry]

It's Tyler1.,.. his whole personality since his LoL days has been shortman syndrome, roid rage bait content...

[slim coral]

H'es not wrong tho

why run away when they all yelled at pirate for the same thing

[compact knot]

soda went over this boss specifically

that is likle the one thing he told them to not do

ever

lol

[slim coral]

which part

[whole yacht]

thats hilarious. idk what to think about the incident, because if they just commited, no one died, and boss died. buut at the same time, if they did the mechanic properly instead of half committing to the kill, no one died either. so like.

[slim coral]

yeah that's true

[whole yacht]

probably "dont commit to trying to push the kill, do mechanics"

[slim coral]

ah yeah I mean tyler def didn't play perfect but they def could of killed it without him dying

[whole yacht]

i agree

[south kayak]

It was the wrong call, period. You have all the time in the world to kill the boss after inferno. And his boss positioning was horrendous.

[whole yacht]

i think the biggest mistake was that the call to commit was late

his boss positioning was very bad

[south kayak]

Boss had no reason being that close to the raid

[slim coral]

yeah he admitted the positiong was bad

[south kayak]

Because he couldn’t back pedal properly

[whole yacht]

but also, he doesnt play games like this, hes still learning

[south kayak]

It’s fair but the call was still wrong

[compact knot]

dont commit

[south kayak]

If inferno starts and the boss is at 1%, you stop

It’s that simple

[slim coral]

ye ye he just had a good point that why make him the raid lead if people aren't gonna listen

[whole yacht]

both calls could be right or wrong. both resulted in a kill with no one dying, if they didnt hesitate

[south kayak]

It’s heroic

Hardcore

[whole yacht]

the safer call was to do the mechanic

but it was still doable with no deaths if they commited from the beginning

[compact knot]

this isnt guranteed either, since boss was fucked the bomb got put in a weird spot

[south kayak]

It was the correct call, especially when half the raid are people who suck

[slim coral]

yeah if the people in the raid actually knew their class no one dies

[compact knot]

pshero was the reason they wiped

taking a sweat spot and doing 150 dps

lol

[whole yacht]

im going to be so real

[south kayak]

People not doing dps is not the problem

[whole yacht]

half their raid was the problem

half of them are brain dead

[compact knot]

keep in mind half of them have never touched the game

[slim coral]

apparently a lot of them claimed to be sweats

when they werent soda said

[compact knot]

pshero plays the game for a living and is doing 150 dps in decent gear

xdd

[whole yacht]

that is tre.

true*

but some of the things some of them did

its not a playing the game issue

its a brain function issue

[compact knot]

agreed kinda

the boss position being bad kills people anyways

since the bomb will expload and kill people that commited

[whole yacht]

i mean

it was bad

but no one died to the positioning

they all lived the whhole fight till the very end

[modest condor]

man who cares about classic

[frozen berry]

Agreed

[modest condor]

the only interesting thing was the piratesoftware drama

[south kayak]

I thought they did considering the bad positioning led to the bomb doing off and killing some people

Along with the inferno

And it would have

Anyway, it felt like Tyler’s call was like it was the end of the world if they didn’t kill geddon then lol

[whole yacht]

no one died till inferno, due to hesitation.

[south kayak]

Dude, you have time

Lol

[whole yacht]

tyler

is very dramatic

always has been

thats what hes popular for

[slim coral]

did you see the animation made for it

[compact knot]

Id argue the only reason people died was due to positioning @whole yacht

[modest condor]

no

[slim coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wySIfdGqz3k

it's so good

[wary fjord]

look at my mana

[compact knot]

boss being in a bad spot forced ranged to move which lowers dps, boss dies before the inferno cast, bomb can go in the correct spot

[whole yacht]

i heavily disagree. half the people that died were running back and forth hesitating on the commit. the other half didnt move to run away to begin with.

[compact knot]

ranged shouldnt ever have to move on that fight and the spot the boss was in forced them to move which kills ranged dps

[whole yacht]

brother

i am in no way arguing that the positioning was good

i just dont agree that its the reason people died

[modest condor]

dont people usually die because their hp goes to 0?

[compact knot]

boss dies before the last inferno cast = nobody dies

[whole yacht]

if they didnt hesitate on the commit, inferno didnt go off

the call was made late

which made players that arent used to this game

panic

which made people hesitate

which caused the boss to live 5 extra seconds

[slim coral]

Listen

I know nothing about classic

but they def would of killed this

with 0 deaths

[compact knot]

nah

thats a fucked picture lmao

[whole yacht]

😂

you see

where all the names are on the right side of boss?

[slim coral]

they were all full health btw

at this moment

[whole yacht]

half those people ran back and forth doing no damage for 5 seconds

panicking

[slim coral]

this was their health

that's crazy they didn't commit

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-gif-19144167

[whole yacht]

100% a commit angle. but the problem is, the call was late, and a lot of them were new to raiding.

so they cant function without calls

[slim coral]

Yeah but what woudl even kill them from this point?

idk never did this raid

[compact knot]

living bomb 100% kills someone

guranteed

[whole yacht]

no it doesnt.

[bronze crystal]

seeing conflicting things from wowhead and maxroll regarding races - i know its a small thing, but wowhead says mechagnome sims the highest, while maxroll says void elf.

[whole yacht]

guaranteed

[dapper goblet]

people die either way

if they commit or do what they did

[slim coral]

mechagnome is the highest

[dapper goblet]

call was bad

[compact knot]

they commit, are low from the inferno, run back into the "safe" hallway that has a bomb in it

[whole yacht]

i 100% disagree.

[dapper goblet]

thats fine

[whole yacht]

if they didnt panic and run around randomly for 5 seconds. inferno didnt happen

there would be no "being low from inferno"

[compact knot]

2-3 ticks still go off, thats 3k hp, healers are tapped, nobody is dispelling so they are all already ticking down from the dispell.

oh wait, 3 ticks went off when he called the finish call

nah thats fucked

LMAO

[whole yacht]

exactly

it BARELY STARTED

if they commited 100% from the start

it died without a tick

but because the call was late

people didnt know what to do

[compact knot]

yeah you dont do that in hardcore sorry, especially with a late call

take the pussy route 10/10 times

[slim coral]

Just saying they roached out

no cap

[whole yacht]

absolutely can commit in hardcore

if theres time

theres time

zero reason to prolong the fight "to be safe" when you have plenty of time

can you? absolutely.

should you? i dont see a reason to. like i said, if theres time, theres time

but you need to go in with everyone knowing that youre going to commit when its that low

or call it quicker

[compact knot]

Honestly more people might die even if you commit with that living bomb

that bomb is fucked

it killed manco from 82% health lmao

[whole yacht]

would have been at 100% if they commited. no inferno dmg 😂

[covert blaze]

20 year old game

[compact knot]

thats not how it works

he didnt take damage from inferno

[whole yacht]

bruh

no inferno damage as in

healers could have had manco topped

due to no panic from additional damage on melee

[modest condor]

committing is one thing, making a last second commit call when the mechanic is already happening is the dumbest thing you can do as as raid leader

[whole yacht]

the biggest reason 7 people died, was because of panic from lack of comms

[whole yacht]

like i said multiple times. they died to a late call

tyler never should have made calls to begin with, the dude has the brain power of a sponge

[dapper goblet]

thats the point of the guild though

and his raid group

content guild

[high echo]

the right call was to stay

they all are not great at playing classic lol

[frank dawn]

classis v hard tho

please understand

[whole yacht]

classic hardest version of game

molten core hardest raid ever

[covert blaze]

it's content man he doesn't even play the game lol

[whole yacht]

im aware he doesnt.

i also stated that earlier

hes a league player, and he plays the most brain dead easy champs in league

[dapper goblet]

draven pretty brain dead

[whole yacht]

press q, right click

[high echo]

speed running it in an optima is kinda hard for real though

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-10129893223082536574

[high echo]

try to keep aggro on a 12s vaelstrasz fight

[whole yacht]

ive been in a dps que for random heroics. this entire conversation

trying to do the weekly on a low ilvl alt

lmao

[compact knot]

oh my god i just remember

the living bomb can crit too

that should not be a thing in classic

[whole yacht]

why

[compact knot]

actually in classic it makes sense since noting makes sense in classic

[whole yacht]

why shouldnt it crit

[high echo]

classic is very unfun and broken

unless you are a warrior

then its only broken

[compact knot]

It shouldnt crit imo because there are other things that dont crit in classic

such as ony breath

[whole yacht]

"other things dont crit, so nothing should crit"?

[compact knot]

its literally the only ability that does

except for melees in that entire raid

im pretty sure

[south kayak]

Exactly, this is a bad call no matter how you spin it, it’s not like you have 4 seconds to kill the boss otherwise you all die somehow lol, you have time

[high echo]

you will not die to living bomb ever

unless you and every other healer sucks

[dapper goblet]

feel like its not a bad take to say boss mechanics shouldnt crit

[frozen berry]

Well I mean if you didn't have enough Defence Rating stat bosses would crit you.

[compact knot]

it really isnt when noting else in the entire raid does, making raid damage vary like that is cringe

[sudden tusk]

defense and expertise had the same issue as hit rating

get X amount of stat to play the game

boring

[compact knot]

living bomb shouldnt be a mechanic to worry about anyways

[high echo]

^

[frozen berry]

Even then there was a chacne for boss swing timers to make back to back or even multiple melee swings really fast and down the tank b4 healers can react...

[compact knot]

mauii ran the wrong way, panic cause boss in wrong spot

[compact knot]

parry hasting is a cool mechanic too

[south kayak]

There’s nowhere he could have ran without exposing himself to no heals or other damage

[frozen berry]

I do NOT miss Defence rating, hit or expertise stats to say the least...

[compact knot]

yeah he dies if he runs to the normal bomb spot

me or them situation

[high echo]

aggro is the real mechanic in all classic fights

[south kayak]

Parry hasting is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen

[weary sail]

https://x.com/naowhxd/status/1888630564724314420?s=46&t=hys4AIit6oHHf_5XOJ0Vgw

He cooked or we cooked

[high echo]

believe it or not the strategy was to do so much dmg you just ignored almost every mechanic

[weary sail]

Fury C tier

[compact knot]

I watched him do this

[south kayak]

Keep fury at lower tiers please

[compact knot]

if only the wheel put fury in D tier

would have been perfect

[dapper goblet]

thats what he said. run to the normal spot and die himself or run to the corner in the hallway and live but possibly kill people

tough choice honestly

but people had plenty of time to see him in that corner and move

[weary sail]

Fury isnt actually bad right

[compact knot]

ended up killing 3 people though, would have been WAY worse if they commited lmao

[south kayak]

It isn’t

[weary sail]

People just memeing

[frozen berry]

Cept in ST...

[south kayak]

Don’t bother with tierlists

[weary sail]

Well fury has always been shit

In st

[warm crag]

fury is ass delete your warrior

[frozen berry]

Not always lol

[compact knot]

https://x.com/Naowhxd/status/1888743775339462679

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@SavixIrL Yes, from a trusted source: https://t.co/j6B0q9w46P

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gulp

[modest condor]

naowh's tierlist is 100% accurate

[dapper goblet]

god king xantaga bronze 1 marvel rivals shark otp said fury is bad

[undone flower]

delete your warriors guys, it will be more add dmg for me

[whole yacht]

everyone delete their warriors so i can 100 parse

thanks

[undone flower]

delete your warrior on rash pls

[high echo]

funniest thing is them doing it all wrong in a very basic game then watching and reacting to each other for the next hour or two lol

onlyglaze

[frozen berry]

They need to make SMF viable for ST fights, make it autoattack spec build 😛

[compact knot]

i keep getting owned by one guy on heroic all stars

[whole yacht]

65 autos a second

[compact knot]

someone ban that guy

[whole yacht]

i would play it

[frozen berry]

When is Onslaught gonna be viuable again? -_-

[compact knot]

still would be worse then TG

[weary sail]

No thx

[undone flower]

the pvp talent ?

i just pressed onslaught what a pussy animation

[compact knot]

if unbridled ferocity was good it would make onslaught better

oh

[clever belfry]

oh!

[mild ravine]

how come?

[compact knot]

does UF not proc from onslaught anymore, or is the tooltip lying

[clever belfry]

it does not

[frank dawn]

it does not

[compact knot]

damn

[frank dawn]

I beat anda, confirmed

[clever belfry]

wrong

NA just slow

[compact knot]

just tripling down

[clever belfry]

my msg id
1338645449959018538
artunis msg id
1338645451301322802

[frank dawn]

I'm so cooked

[clever belfry]

yes theyre sequential

[frank dawn]

howcouldthishappentome

[whole yacht]

lel

[compact knot]

cant believe tyler put ahl on that list

[dapper goblet]

deserved

[compact knot]

so true

[young swan]

im diamond

and i dont play jefe

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/aloarmy-alo-daniell-ok-donald-trump-gif-25764458

[sudden tusk]

me illamo hefe

[young swan]

jefe can chew rocks

hate that fuck ass shark

[dapper goblet]

impossible to be low rank in that game

handless people getting to plat+

something wrong with the ranking no kizzy

anyway blow up

[young swan]

yeah its weird for sure

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[whole yacht]

diamond players are worse than bronze

[compact knot]

t1 digging the hole bigger

[restive granite]

anyone knows if i can get the number on how many pulls did it take for a guild to kill a boss? is it anywhere in wlogs?

[covert blaze]

progress tab

[whole yacht]

^

[restive granite]

tyyyyy

very pog thank you

[whole yacht]

anyone wanna que tank for me for 5k gold? 😂 just need 2 more heroic dungeons.

but these 20 minute dps ques are killing me

oop. 1 more. finally got a pop

[gleaming talon]

lol this was the hustle leveling my characters

[whole yacht]

lol

[remote bobcat]

sounds like you're having fun

[whole yacht]

loads

[bitter palm]

rate my setup

[coarse nest]

15/10

[slim coral]

2 out of 10 the airflow is terrible

[bitter palm]

car runs cold dont need airflow

[whole yacht]

Car?

[clever belfry]

let him out

[smoky vale]

meow

[pearl sequoia]

meow5080

[restive granite]

how true is that lust on pull in ansurek is bait

we dont have good casters for spymaster lust either

like, our casters fucking suck

[slim coral]

I think you get more value in the p3 list but at this late in the tier I don’t think it really matters

[remote bobcat]

there is infinite damage

as long as u dont have 4+ deaths

u win

in prog group

[restive granite]

yeah

about that not dying thing

350 pulls in still 80% of our pulls are p1 dude

im losing my mind

i want to quit the game

[remote bobcat]

yea thats end of season mythic prog

[ashen socket]

What boss?

Anni?

[restive granite]

ye

[ashen socket]

Cause 350 wipes is wild

what kind of dogshit you got on your team?

[restive granite]

we dont have people to bench the same old offenders

[ashen socket]

Wym

Can merc people

easy

[restive granite]

its always the same 8 shitters

dying to web blades and waves

and devour

and wrest

[remote bobcat]

mercing people is dogshit too though, honestly

that will kill a guild

[restive granite]

and popping bad puddles

[remote bobcat]

his guild is probs already on the verge of death

[ashen socket]

I mean

350 pulls on anni

the guild might as well be dead lmfao

[remote bobcat]

Why force it

thats just bad advice

like yea u get an achievement

but its better to obtain the kill naturally

you might be able to retain people

you can use it to start quick trials

mercing is a guaranteed guild death

especially 350 pulls into the fight

people will gquit hella fast

[restive granite]

the worst thing is that im stuck

[remote bobcat]

are u officer or sum shit

?

[restive granite]

because we havent had a single clean kill aside of the first easy 4

like tanks dying, ppl not dispelling

not getting a single heal for more than 20 seconds

so all the kills are diry and ugly as they can get

[remote bobcat]

this is what happens when you have heroic-level players go into mythic

usually

replacements needed, good sir

[restive granite]

and logs are aweful because of that

[remote bobcat]

logs dont actually matter

also guilds that only recruit based on logs arent guilds you wanna be apart of

[restive granite]

all the guilds ive tried to applied to with a better ranking first thing they ask are for logs

idk man idk where to search either

[remote bobcat]

like yea logs are cool and yippie it shows many things such as your understanding of the fights

but at the same time, logs donjt show how good of a mythic raider you are

[restive granite]

the eu recruitment discord aint it

[remote bobcat]

at least not the fancy parse number

[remote bobcat]

Of course they do. Because it does give some information. But that is not the only thing that matters.

Sending logs should always be accompanied with a side note.

[restive granite]

yeah i agree

[remote bobcat]

The sad truth of applying to guilds is that, at the end of the day, it is just like applying to a job

they require your commitment and they require someone who won't change their norm

so you have to prepare for it

type shii

smart language

cant farm mythic logs?

idk, maybe farm some hc logs, might help

who knows

show that you know what you're doing

and that you prioritize progress over everything else

[modest condor]

dont confuse logs with parses

[remote bobcat]

ye i meant parses

[pearl sequoia]

well parses can get a guilds attention, then log reviews or whatever

[remote bobcat]

"a greater advertisement will yield greater attention, but it doesn't have any say about the value of the product"

[pearl sequoia]

for sure

im just sayin the advertisement gets a foot in the door

[remote bobcat]

ya

fo sure

[junior gale]

yeah a guild recruiting just because your parse number is big isnt usually a guild you wanna join anyways. But yeah seeing someone with big numbers does make you want to look into them further

[remote bobcat]

this~1

[summer crater]

Parsing

[pearl sequoia]

mom im parsin

[remote bobcat]

it dunnt matter we like shiny number go up

Stonks

[summer crater]

Makes me remember when a paladin removed an item to ilvl parse and instead of removing the cloak or something he removed a trinket

[remote bobcat]

what

[pearl sequoia]

hes saying he took off an item to drop ilvl to ilvl parse, but took off a trinket instead of a stat item such as cloak which would generally give more dps

[remote bobcat]

i did get that

but

ilvl parses?

really?

im just so stunned

thats as valuable as someone going into the log data and editing the numbers

[pearl sequoia]

i think ilvl is only valuable early in the tier

since some of the logs will have guys way ahead of you in progression, and so gear

[remote bobcat]

im very sure its never valuable

clueless~1

[pearl sequoia]

if it works the way i think it works being only parses your ilvl, then it could give a more accurate performance parse

[remote bobcat]

until you consider that ilvl parses at lower ilvls often exclude good players and mainly include average/mediocre players

along with that, you end up having a really really low amount of parses for each section of ilvls

It doesn't tell you much

getting an ilvl parse 99 at 620 doesnt mean jackshit

[pearl sequoia]

yea for sure, thats why i said early in the tier when some peoples ilvl from funneling can be way ahead / progression gap

[remote bobcat]

even then i dont really see it as a good comparison

[pearl sequoia]

each to their own

[remote bobcat]

i suppose so

Regardless, farming an ilvl parse is nonsense imo

[pearl sequoia]

👌

[covert blaze]

it never is, reallistically

[ashen socket]

Its not bad

You just dont agree

[vague cedar]

does anyone have the weakaura to track frenzy stacks on a specific target?

[winter shoal]

That's not how frenzy works

Frenzy is a stacking buff on you

It resets if you rampage a new target

[sudden tusk]

Yeah its p annoying. its just a stealth buff of haste locked to a cast on target id

should legit just be a self buff that you upkeep with no same target required

[undone flower]

Frenzy is the 15% haste talent right ?

[sudden tusk]

8%

2% per stack 4 stacks max

[undone flower]

Not that used to English talents

[sudden tusk]

its the talent to the left of hack and slash in the middle of the tree

[undone flower]

Thx👍

Yeah I mistook it with frenzied enrage

[pearl sequoia]

1 season down, now learning what frenzy charges are

very cool

[summer quail]

it's really ass that it isn't just that. so stupid that we get punished for swapping targets

i don't want a reward for tab targeting either. just no punishment

[undone flower]

Im 8/8 I didn’t acknowledge this talent

I don’t even know if I use it

[pearl sequoia]

same man lol

press buton real

[undone flower]

Even hack and slash, I just discovered what the talent actually do

I might drop it in m+ now lol

[young swan]

playing without hack n slash will make u miserable

playing without frenzy is just losing damage for fun

[pearl sequoia]

ok hack n slash u definetly ffeel from gameplay, dont know about that one chief

[modest condor]

sims will make it look like dropping hack and slash can be worth it, but then you play it and it feels like you have to press whirlwind 20 times per bossfight

[undone flower]

Im thane in m+ so thunderclap

[summer quail]

on ptr drop bloodborne genuinely

[vague sierra]

Does vicious contempt cleave the bloodbath execute damage, or do cleaved targets in range just take the additional damage?

[summer quail]

it checks per target

[vague sierra]

kk

[stuck mason]

Do we have to play thane next season the way things are looking?

[vague sierra]

tyvm

[stuck mason]

I don’t like thane

[young swan]

dont have to play anything

[undone flower]

I will try a key today without hack and slash to see

[pearl sequoia]

for m+ sure, but if u dont push high keys then it wont matter that much

[young swan]

thane will prob be better in m+ tho

[summer quail]

in m+ it is gonna be stronger yeah. but just like current season play whatever you like, unless pushing for title

[stuck mason]

I just like slayer Zug zug I push keys on my hunter and shaman anyways this is like my 3rd alt

[undone flower]

I just like thane zug zug clap

[stuck mason]

I’m thanin right now I just don’t likey

[pearl sequoia]

wtf is thunderclap

[slim coral]

“Prob”

[frank dawn]

Slayer will be saved tomorrow

I believe

[dense elbow]

If they buff storm or Nerf the baseline abilities back down, it ain't impossible.
Slayer mainly struggle being built around BS, that got punished by raid based nerfs, got it's power held back by old TT and node nerfs.
Doesn't help that execute fails to be actual valuable on its own...

Slayer is really punished by the design angle chosen, where your performance is bound to if your reap procs or not in the burst window.

Slayer need so much help, so it is unlikely tho.

[slim coral]

i don’t even remember the last time the buffed slayers hero talents

[sudden tusk]

need to make reap consistnat

[slim coral]

Slayer deadge

[frank dawn]

Slayer has still felt pretty strong on single target for me

but in AoE, just damn, Thane has been blowing it out of the water

[sudden tusk]

its just the inconsistancy of reap

every 2 BTs/MS/Cleave should reap

[dense elbow]

Just undo all the nerfs, and buff storm to keep it's comparable profile value. So that is what, a 55% dam buff. Then maybe

[sudden tusk]

they just need to buff reap/Tblast(aoe component)

tblast really needs to redistribute the damage from Thunderstrike into tblast

[dense elbow]

Reap is bad design tho

RNG dam is worst dam

[frank dawn]

Reap should be more consistent, but prob also less damage overall

[young swan]

thane is literally entirely rng

[frank dawn]

everything fury needs some redistribution

[young swan]

so is thane just bad design

[dense elbow]

I don't enjoy Thane that much for a reason

[young swan]

feel like reap is fine

20% per target is way better than flat 20% per cast

and theres always gonna be rng

[dense elbow]

It really feels bad when your burst window is decided by a proc, not the ability you pressed

[frank dawn]

eh, I think that particular take is slightly overblown. On something like Ovinax, ok sure I guess, but overall I just think it's a little too much damage

the rng aspect of it isn't really my complaint at that point

[covert blaze]

fuck reap

[young swan]

the reap buff was so insane to me lmfao

[covert blaze]

too much damage for how rng it is

[modest condor]

earlier today we had a discussion about reap already and people were complaining about rng as well, yet every screenshot of damage breakdown they showed had it do a similar amount of their damage breakdown

yes each individual pull can have highs and lows, but that's no different from having more crits or fewer crits

[young swan]

yeah i mean u can giga high roll sometimes

but u can always do that

its not exclusive to reap

[frank dawn]

yeh

[dense elbow]

I prefer a world where I use my CDs and the dam potential isn't if I reap or not

[modest condor]

reap getting buffed makes sense because it's the one tuning knob for slayer to increase their sustain aoe

but if people are bothered by the rng it adds to burst just remove it from unhinged

[covert blaze]

i fucking looooove rng

millions must gamble

[frank dawn]

I still feel like unhinged could have some cleaving functionality returned. Maybe it's like Legion sweeping strikes and hard coded to 3 targets if full 5 targets is too much

but again, just redistribution, take damage from reap. put it in a cleaving unhinged and a little raw bladestorm damage too or even an aura buff

idk

[modest condor]

then you're just moving damage from sustain aoe into burst aoe again

which is opposite if what they're trying to do

[dense elbow]

That is the whole slayer fantasy tho

Bladestorm and execute

[frank dawn]

sure, but I guess I don't think that's really a problem when the raid isn't Nerubar "way too many shit adds" Palace

[modest condor]

maybe

[dense elbow]

If you want consistent AoE, Thane is the go. If you want burst AoE, you go Slayer.
As burst AoE is less valuable because of its inflexibility, it needs to have a big impact on use.

Storm really needs a buff for m+, and reap that does not proc when needed just ain't it.

And no, don't balance around raid, for the love of all fun. As you get op in raid based on silly timings on adds that doesn't even count on logs as they are that unimportant

[frank dawn]

I somewhat understand why they did what they did because of the raid design

but let's just not do that again and make fury cooldowns feel awesome again

[modest condor]

wcl needs to stop curating what is and isnt allowed in raid

remove shit from allstars if you want, but never remove actual damage unless it's clearly cheesed like bringing trash into the fight

[frank dawn]

yeah I felt like that was always the point of all stars, not the raw log

[dense elbow]

Think most agree to that

[modest condor]

oh no i said a bad word

[dense elbow]

Well shit

Well, I just hope next balance note reduces Ramp/RB and BT, and buffs everything instead

One can hope

[frank dawn]

You know what? They’re gonna buff BT EVEN HARDER

[young swan]

id prefer they just drop the aura by a bit and buff up CDs a tad

i like ramp/bt being big dam

[sudden tusk]

while i like buffs

i think rb/cb might need some power dipped

and put more towards aoe

[undone flower]

I love free stuff too

[undone flower]

We talked about onslaught before, I just realized it must do 0 dmg compared to BT and RB on the ptr

[wary fjord]

remove it

[undone flower]

When I checked again the spell I said in my mind : that’s hell a lot close to those buttons for a 14 sec cd button

[wary fjord]

ye

remove it at this point

[dense elbow]

OS is just RB+, and has always been boring and uninspired. An efficient button? Sure. I use it for PvP, but boring.
I agree, just remove it for something that would make the lessAPM and SMF enjoyers happy.

(actual less apm tho, not waterpill levels, talking increasing GCD level of change)

[ember narwhal]

It has a sweet animation at least :3

[slim hawk]

Do we have actual numbers on SMF builds and their stat weights etc?

[junior gale]

🤔

[slim hawk]

?

[oblique trail]

Stat weights are an archaic thing and not used anymore, you'd just sim yourself in top gear for optimal stats with what gear you got (not that SMF would change anything regarding stats)

As for SMF, last I looked it's roughly 5%~ worse

[slim hawk]

Hm ok that aint too bad of a difference for some casual keys

only reason i want it is too tmog 1hs xd

[sour frigate]

try frost fury warrior

[river reef]

how much haste do I need to get to reach the stat soft cap?

[sour frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[jolly mist]

has any1 of u guys managed to get their elvui profiles on the ptr? im kinda lost

[dusty flicker]

nah, just disabled it and used the base WoW UI instead.

took about 5-10 mins and looks kinda ok with that as well after importing my WA/plater/details etc.

[slim hawk]

nah just normal fury pls

[chrome plover]

just tmog some small 2h models

[lapis hound]

is Fury hard spec to learn? i cant decide for shit what to play in s2, but fury warrior looks fun 😄 dno if we will ever get m+ invites though

[radiant plank]

Probably tied with ret on the easiest to pick up specs

in melee

[dense elbow]

Fury is easier than ever in s2 to play, so that is looking good. The whole M+ question tho