fury

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry

[clever belfry]

🇰🇷

[left perch]

@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry@clever belfry :ball:

[clever belfry]

noob

[left perch]

yea I’m not invited to the exclusive club server

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1304357622866247772/Banezi_chomp.gif

[jovial coral]

nnoo babenz must not be comp

[floral oriole]

Hello everyone, can I get a quick tldr of Fury and arms state currently and estimates on what will be strong in season 2 ?

[radiant plank]

Hold on

🔮

Arms will get buffed

and fury nerfed

Both are below enha shamans

[floral oriole]

Damn I knew it xdd

Are we looking at fury over arms as things stand right now tho ?

[winter shoal]

enhance got nerfed the other day no?

[winter shoal]

At this very moment, yes, but things will almost certainly change

[radiant plank]

Zorth said its minor nerf

[floral oriole]

I see I see

[winter shoal]

warrior just needs another 15% buff or two and we're feasting

[bronze crystal]

does reflect work for the tentacles for last boss in GB?

[ornate gust]

Yes

[warm crag]

ye just pop it and run through as many as you want while the spell reflect buff is up

[clever belfry]

very normal interaction

[whole yacht]

i absolutely am NOT going to be clicking that lmao

[covert blaze]

<@&257983573498265600>

[clever belfry]

man i missed a funny click

gg

[whole yacht]

it was "20 dollar steam gift"

lol

[summer quail]

that's free money i missed out on

[gilded pawn]

Mods collecting them

[dense elbow]

Only 20, not 50?
Dang, Gio running low on funds

[whole yacht]

good morning funkykitty

(its morning somewhere probably)

[dense elbow]

Morning

[whole yacht]

still waiting for you to add me. smh

is there a way to get ring upgrades for alts, without doing the quests on said alts?

[oblique trail]

Kill rares

[whole yacht]

for the item that upgrades ring ilvl?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[whole yacht]

neat. thanks banzai

[fickle bluff]

It will take much longer to farm it than just doing the quests but it is possible

[whole yacht]

what if there are no quests

🤔

[covert blaze]

fill the bar and the quest will appear

[whole yacht]

😮

[covert blaze]

dailies give like 20%

[whole yacht]

:OOOOOOOOOOOO

[buoyant hatch]

Hey, anyone got a feeling how fury performs after the buffs on ptr? I'm currently struggling between Enh or fury for the new season.. all the fury nerfs last season really left a mark...

[fading sky]

Enh

So faf

Is still a lot ahead and in gen if dmg is equal still better

[junior gale]

This dude thinks fury is an option over enhance

[fading sky]

Ye he needs god.

[odd cipher]

i mean, if he unequips weapon on enh, there's a chance to swap to fury

[surreal token]

brother just keep playing the free win class

if I knew the future I'd have an enhance shaman instead of a warrior rn

if u wanna be OP for 11.1 just play enhance or boomy

or an spriest if u want a million keybinds

u can just have a warrior for splits if ur feeling cheeky

just dont invest in the brown class

[slim coral]

[compact knot]

prot warrior

i think if you did from tww prepatch arcane has triple everything else

lmao

[royal copper]

Yeah i put my warrioron standby for now - prob. season 2 aaswell.

Theyre soo useless in m+

[compact knot]

warrior is good next season if it doesnt get gutted

[royal copper]

but i really like em.

[whole yacht]

so heres the thing. unless you plan on going for CE, or top 1% m+

play what you want

all this "warrior is good? warrior is worse than others?" isnt relevant for a majority of players.

if you like warrior

play warrior 😄

[deep oxide]

You know that is simply not true if you live in the pug world

Yeah warriors can do it, but you aren’t getting picked

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-hoshimi-chibi-eating-watermelon-gif-16244555372567071145

[whole yacht]

Don't rely on joining groups. Make your own

So much "I don't get invited" can be nullified by just making your own group

[sudden tusk]

The basic reality as a non meta spec of any class is it's going to take 4-5x the effort to get the same result in terms of getting IO score from mythic plus

[whole yacht]

And for a majority of the player base. That won't be much of an issue. Because they aren't going to make it to 3500 anyway

[sudden tusk]

its doable for sure just time consuming

[clever belfry]

im all ears

[oblique trail]

I'm all

[sudden tusk]

https://upload-os-bbs.hoyolab.com/upload/2024/12/20/424767641/fa21eb7cc1d6c3a1945e53ccf1e7485d_4947538751772971527.png?x-oss-process=image%2Fresize%2Cs_1000%2Fauto-orient%2C0%2Finterlace%2C1%2Fformat%2Cwebp%2Fquality%2Cq_70

[clever belfry]

even queueing into weeklies at 'ive done all 10s for this season'-score is significantly harder as off meta

[whole yacht]

Queuing into them. That doesn't sound like starting your own

[clever belfry]

Honestly
be real

people also queue less for single dps offmeta key

[covert blaze]

holy

[turbid needle]

holy

[thick fossil]

I plugged my way to top 1% m+
I don't recommend it. It's cruel and mind rotting.

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/watermelon-eat-eat-watermelon-fox-gif-27677830

Floofs do like watermelon!

[sudden tusk]

foxes are so cute man

and they make that dumb squeaky sound

[thick fossil]

I work with a fur farm rescue, donations and all that. I even sponsor a fox.

[sudden tusk]

yeeeeeeeeeee

[thick fossil]

This is Kipper, my cute little sponsor!

[sudden tusk]

tuxedo man

[thick fossil]

Even got to write the calendar entry for em!

[sudden tusk]

i wana go pet foxes they are goofy

[thick fossil]

Save A Fox rescue in Minnesota and Florida. They have a YouTube as well that they post lots of stuff to.

[smoky vale]

slander, nerf of

[sour frigate]

I did too not cruel at all just shit game

[thick fossil]

I mean, the shit game makes things cruel for us.

[sour frigate]

most specs median rio not even close to 0.1 tho

[thick fossil]

Yeah, like 1 shadow priest. lol

[stoic marsh]

Hey, does anyone know which build is better?

[winter shoal]

Better for what

The build with OF will have more aoe burst, probably more aoe sustain as well

The build with VC will have higher prio and boss dam

Personally, I play the VC build because overall damage is fake

[stoic marsh]

I see, was curious since Im not that into warrior builds. Just saw another warrior run this one

[thick fossil]

@stoic marsh Quick answer: OF version for 10 or less keys. 10+ VC

[stoic marsh]

and was curious

Nice good to know ty

[vague cedar]

I agree with osa

[weak tartan]

yo, is there a catchup mechanic for siren isles's finger item leve? I know that the finger enchants are easily tradable within warband, but what about the finger item level?

[sudden tusk]

i crushed this 15 NW it turned into a 16 kara

and this guy is legit excluding me from it

there is no way

man

[bright sable]

Damn, what hero talent tree you using? And what ilvl ?

I'm wondering what key level I'm supposed to be able to run at my ilvl tbh I feel like I keep underestimating myself

[sudden tusk]

639 missing M sacbrood

thane M+ with 2x VC

[bright sable]

I feel like I'm bad at fury but I am consistently top 1-2 on the dps meters across m+, heroic raid, and everything else I do

[bright sable]

Sheesh

Chad shit

Is there a list somewhere of what ilvl you should have for what key levels

[sudden tusk]

nope

[winter shoal]

I've seen yt vids of people doing like 14/15s in 625 gear but they obviously know what they're doing and there's 0 chance you get into those groups via group finder

It's not too hard to get to like 630 with catalysted hero gear and crafted gear in your other slots, you can do it in like a weekend of farming +8s

[bright sable]

I'm 625 atm and my highest key is a +9 that I didn't time lmao

[sour frigate]

happened to me too recently

[bright sable]

But I'm mostly running M+ with my guild and the others are 615-620

[sudden tusk]

UPDATE

[bright sable]

Not sure what key level we should be able to clear

[sudden tusk]

TO THE STORY BABY

[sour frigate]

AHHAHAHAH

At least mage fucks

[sour frigate]

pretty fure u can farm 10s and 12th if u have some skills...

[bright sable]

I personally don't think I have that much skill but idk how to find out

[sour frigate]

Try it?

[bright sable]

I do ok damage and wowanalyzer doesn't scream at me too loud

[sour frigate]

Wowanalyzer sucks

[oblique trail]

Eh

It's been updated to at least function

[bright sable]

I don't think my guild group is capable of it and I don't wanna sit in 3 hour queue to try to get into a +10 when my highest key is a failed 9 lol

[sour frigate]

Suck fuction works great tho

[bright sable]

But I'll keep trying to time a 9 with my guild ig

I don't really know what exactly I should to do improve atm I feel kinda stuck

[sour frigate]

Get gear learn to press kicks cc defensives etc

[bright sable]

Is there any fury YouTuber you guys would say is good to watch and knows what they are doing

[sour frigate]

Critcake ig

[bright sable]

I'm trying my best to get gear and I usually have the most interrupts on my team

[sour frigate]

https://www.twitch.tv/3madox

[bright sable]

I'm getting better at defensives but it's definitely a weaker point

I feel like I should change my CD macro idk if I'm supposed to do so many things at once

[sour frigate]

I mean at ur key range it doesnt matter cuz no stuff can kill u there easily

[bright sable]

Or maybe I should add more lul

[bright sable]

Doesn't stop me from dying lol

[sour frigate]

warrior moment

[bright sable]

Or well the few times I die is usually when I'm being stupid and pulling before tank or getting aggro because I don't wait to use my AoE when tank pulls

Or boss mechanics that make me wanna hit my head against the nearest wall

[sour frigate]

tried sv14 as fury today was surprised that im not even losing hp compared to aug and ret in my party

[bright sable]

Based

Yeah we have some nice self heals

[sour frigate]

A lot of dr and high hp pull too

Pool*

[bright sable]

I just want higher numbers I guess

This is from heroic raid earlier today

Second most damage after a rogue but I want the blue to turn purple and idk how lmao

[sudden tusk]

what boss

[bright sable]

Nexus princess

But it's similar across all the 6 bosses we did today

[sudden tusk]

well most people high parsing

are like 635+

so you are 10ilvls down on proabbyl anything purple or up

[bright sable]

This one doesn't show ranking for ilvl which is the one I want loll

Let me see if it shows on phone

[sour tundra]

are both rounds of fury buffs on the PTR?

[marble schooner]

the last thing newcomers to warrior learn is to actually press defensive stance

so try to build the habit asap, get a stance dance macro so u bind both stances to the same button and just cycle them

[winter shoal]

What he say fuck me for

[marble schooner]

he prolly meant it in a good way

[winter shoal]

I would only put any weight in its output for pure single target fights, and even then it's probably best to cross-reference with the wowhead guide (which tbf the helper text also says)

[winter shoal]

Aoe threat is much less of an issue if you play the VC Thane build instead of OF and/or slayer

[sour frigate]

Dunno i was able to get agro with vc too

[winter shoal]

Tank issue

[bright sable]

Idk what I'm playing tbh

It's thane off wowhead

Don't remember which tho

Or wait is of odins fury

Then I am probably that

[bright sable]

Oh am I supposed to ever use that? Oopsie

[marble schooner]

hehe yeah its imo the best defensive in the game

or at least up there

[bright sable]

Anyway this is the number I want up

I'm in the middle, 62%

The 75 below me is a ret pally who out damages me even tho lower ilvl

[marble schooner]

you should maybe not care too much about ilvl%

[bright sable]

He's crazy

[marble schooner]

that number is wack

[bright sable]

I want moreeeeee

[marble schooner]

I onle care about it when I get high ilvl% on an alt

[bright sable]

I am a numbers go up addict

[marble schooner]

if I get low ilvl% then its a sham number

[bright sable]

I'm doing single target raids with a mythic+ AoE build and still top 3 so I must be doing at least something right

Or my guildies need more practice

[marble schooner]

aight if you do a ST fight with AoE talents you are most likely not gonna get high parses

[bright sable]

My brain can't handle learning another playstyle like arms spec or slayer hero talent so I kinda gotta cope

But yeah I at least want to improve in M+

[marble schooner]

Slayer is just 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 4

[bright sable]

Ok so exactly like fury then lmao

[marble schooner]

yes

[bright sable]

Slay

[marble schooner]

er

[bright sable]

Yeah idk I find myself picking the wrong of the 4 rotational buttons a decent bit but I'm working on it

[marble schooner]

just hit a dummy for a while you will get there

[bright sable]

WoWAnalyzer helped there to show me what stuff is actually more important when ig

[marble schooner]

Fury is very beginner friendly so dont stress it

try to learn other builds and the other playstyles

[bright sable]

I mean I've been playing for years just never done much high end content

I think my first mythic dungeons was in BFA as arcane mage and I still somehow did decent DPS even tho that spec was completely garbage dumpster fire back then lol

So I don't think I'm horrible but I definitely need to watch more videos

[marble schooner]

get into logs, watch other fury warriors on the same fights as you and compare your CD usage on the timeline, your CPM (casts per minute) on your abilities vs them etc etc

you get better 1000x faster if you do that

[bright sable]

Will fury keep being bottom of the damage meter for Mythic Raids going into S2? Like should I swap who I'm raiding as to be better for my guild

[marble schooner]

is your guild in a position where it really matters to minmax who goes what?

[bright sable]

Not yet but I'm working on it

Worst case I'll have an alt elsewhere in a guild that can handle it

[marble schooner]

then just be the best warrior in your guild so you push the others into class swapping

👍

[bright sable]

I'm guessing slayer will still be best for raiding in S2?

[marble schooner]

I have got no clue but I think blizz likes Slayer being the ST / Burst aoe Hero talent and Thane being the sustained AoE one

we will see when patch hits

[bright sable]

Yeah I've been considering it but atm we are sorely lacking in ranged DPS for our heroic roster so I might have to roll an alt anyway for that

[bright sable]

Guess I should cope and learn slayer then

[winter shoal]

It'll take like maybe 30 minutes to learn slayer if you're already decent at thane

[bright sable]

Well I need to find a YouTuber who is good at thane so I can compare myself I guess lol

Seems like anyone decent streams instead tho and I can't handle streams

[winter shoal]

I made this video about how to practice and learn a spec
https://youtu.be/KsZDwT7GkSg?si=9yI2O84qE-IBdowU

and also this weakaura will track the only rotational change for slayer vs thane https://wago.io/ZTGWfik5P

[bright sable]

Ok based

[winter shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrHPMjrMVp8

He's got a ton of vids of M+ runs

And slayer gameplay for raid

[sudden tusk]

Critcake is good to watch

[bright sable]

And he's good to go and no bad habits I'll pick up?

[winter shoal]

No glaze but yeah he's pretty trustworthy

[bright sable]

Sick

I really need to rework my UI too tbh, I'm using Quaziis UI which is fine but im looking too much at my bars and barely ever at the WAs..

[sudden tusk]

ngl it doesnt matter what your WA or bars are

[marble schooner]

at some point when i was getting into the game I hid my bars altogether

[sudden tusk]

you gotta force yourself to look up

[winter shoal]

I'm a big fan of crit's style of WA where it's just a handful of important abilities right in the middle of your screen

[bright sable]

Yeah I'm supposed to in the Quazii UI but I can't see the keybinds in the WAs (is that possible somehow btw?) and my brain is smol

[winter shoal]

Rather than something like Luxthos or Afenar that are just a ton of icons and you don't care about half of them

[bright sable]

Yeah it's really annoying when I'm doing my rotation and everything is on CD and I'm just scanning my bars to see if I'm missing something that can do more damage lol

[winter shoal]

I don't think it's possible in a WA but Hekili does it, either way that's just muscle memory though of learning what your keybinds are

[modest condor]

im using default ui and if there's something i want to track i just check wago or make a template weakaura and put it next to my healthbar

[whole yacht]

Using base ui is based af

[bright sable]

Yeah I'm using the Bellular keybinding setup so I'm slowly getting there over time

I need to rework my UI and my platers but I keep getting lazy because it takes so much time lol

[sour frigate]

👏

[summer quail]

People copy keybinds? I thought everyone just tried some shit and now it's that way

[bright sable]

It's a spreadsheets that puts binds the same place for every class and spec

I spent like 2 weeks fucking with my keybinds before I found it and I could never get it to feel right

[winter shoal]

Never 4get the guy who copied AZER movement keys bc some CSGO guy used em, not realizing that the guy was french or something and had a different keyboard layour

[summer quail]

Holy moly. I could never spreadsheet my binds

[bright sable]

Decided fuck it I'm just gonna run the spreadsheet and force my muscle memory and it's working well

[winter shoal]

I feel like for fury you're pressing like 5 buttons max most fights

[marble schooner]

Idk there was a spreadsheet for that lol, I figured everyone had their own system that works for only them

[bright sable]

I play a lot of alts so without the sheet I would be wasting a ton of time trying to figure out how to set it up

[bright sable]

It's really nice, the spreadsheet is just a template so the binds themselves can be changed by you

But it gives you like suggested abilities for each slot kinda thing

[marble schooner]

yah I guess its just if you say you want your defensive on "F1" then it auto binds all classes defensives to F1 or smth

[bright sable]

Yeah kinda

[marble schooner]

I do that but I do it by feel

[winter shoal]

I've had my 2 key bound to onslaught since 10.1, we haven't taken that talent all expac

[marble schooner]

oh brother

[bright sable]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mGMkLzNWzreBuRsGgZc5bhMcZFSubhQaBm40_xuI8z4/edit

If anyone wants to take a look

I have made a local copy and edited to my liking ofc but it's a great base for people with alts for every class like me lol

I cannot dedicate enough mental energy to figuring out every single ability on every single class and where they should go

This makes it 1 million times easier for me personally

[sour frigate]

i mean copying build is mandatory but keybinds...

[bright sable]

It ended up being really close to what I like anyway so

[sour frigate]

So i just put similar abilities on same buttons

[bright sable]

Especially since I macroed basically every damage CD into a single button lmaooo

[bright sable]

Yes it's the reading every ability for that class to find out which ones are similar part that wrinkles my brain

Instead I put them where the sheet tells me and I figure it out on a dummy real quick

Idk everyone does stuff differently ofc

[marble schooner]

its good to take your time reading all your abilities/talents tho

[bright sable]

I go deep into the research for any alts I actually intend to do hard content on

[marble schooner]

word

[winter shoal]

I just use hekili for alts

I know how to play warrior, for everything else I'm just along for the ride

[bright sable]

But I have a lot of alts for gold making and doing old raids and just alt army stuff in general so it's nice to not have to read 15000 words for each class

[bright sable]

Based..

[modest condor]

i only lvl alts if i need them for something

[bright sable]

I need to pick up a ranged DPS for my guild and I am hating all of them so it's great

[modest condor]

like i made a horde character for the bfa meta achievement

and i lvled a shaman because there's an achievement for doing all tww dungeons on every role

[marble schooner]

uhh did your try BM hunter yet

[bright sable]

No but marksmanship sucked

[winter shoal]

I think I have every melee dps leveled except maybe havoc idr, I haven't geared most of them though

[bright sable]

I hate pet classes tho so idk

[marble schooner]

BM is basically ranged fury

[bright sable]

I'll try it eventually

[sour frigate]

Did u try ret?

[sudden tusk]

yeah bm is pretty brain dead

same with ret

[modest condor]

people say bm is easy but honestly i lvled an mm hunter and it felt even easier than fury

[sudden tusk]

ret just has tools if you have a brain to use

[bright sable]

My pally is prot atm but ret is melee right?

[sudden tusk]

ya

[bright sable]

I need ranged for the guild comp

[sour frigate]

Ret is semi ranged

[marble schooner]

the hard part about MM is self rooting yourself for 3 secs at a time

[winter shoal]

ret is turbo piss but it has rotational downtime and my zoomer brain can't handle that

[marble schooner]

and if you cancel your cast you are toast

[bright sable]

We have uhh 7 melee 3 ranged atm or something dumb

[winter shoal]

demolish dot exe

[marble schooner]

Fyralath dot exe

[winter shoal]

Same thing smile

[modest condor]

nah MM only has 1 ability that makes you stand still and it's not 3 seconds

[bright sable]

I hear it's getting a rework s2

[sour frigate]

its around 3 without modificators

[bright sable]

I'll probably try it again

[winter shoal]

modificators goes crazy

[bright sable]

I have been leveling mage and lock but ehh

Arcane is fun-ish

Lock is... Ok

[modest condor]

i made a mage in shadowlands but cast times just make me feel miserable

[sour frigate]

and mm has some balls procs...

[bright sable]

Yeah I thought I would love MM tbh

[marble schooner]

fire is insane rn you barely cast anything ever

[bright sable]

But it's so damn boring

😭

[tidal kindle]

Create actual spaceship UI w/ semi transparent icons that are overlaid dead center of your screen

[sour frigate]

ye u only hardcast one pyro once in a while with -50% cast time talent tho

[winter shoal]

I'm just messing with you bud, the word you were looking for is "modifiers"
Me when I speak one language and someone who speaks it as their second/third language fucks it up

[sour frigate]

maybe some fireballs if ure not lucky

[sour frigate]

yes.

[marble schooner]

I vouch for you calling them Modificators, I will as well

[modest condor]

im modificatoring your face

[sour frigate]

🫡

[sudden tusk]

gonna make a Tellmewhen thats in the middle of my screen that lights up when BT/2charges of rb/and enough rage to cast ramp

[winter shoal]

bro keep it in the DMs holy

[sour frigate]

modifiers hehe

funny word

as arms player

[marble schooner]

ima make a Weakaura of a dot that lights up when somethings procs, but doesnt tell me what

So I have to go all Shaolin Monk on that mf

[tidal kindle]

I'm making it rn

🗒️

[whole yacht]

I already have a WA that does that

[winter shoal]

Could do this with wa with different frame strata, no?

[marble schooner]

ive been bested again

[whole yacht]

It says "press the thing" but gives zero indications of what thing.

[tidal kindle]

Yeah prob

I'm not actually making it though

[marble schooner]

this is so funny id make one for every class and spec and then roll a Raid where everyone can only run that

[winter shoal]

Kind of shite either way though bc things could change mid-global with respect to procs and you wouldn't know about the status of other abilities beyond the one displayed

[marble schooner]

that shits content

pogtent even

[whole yacht]

Lmao. That would be funny.

[marble schooner]

like imagine playing enh with thst

[winter shoal]

"the thing" is always tempest/wolves, no?

I guess maybe EB in single target spec

[marble schooner]

idk rn but in DF you had like 5 things that could proc

id assume Maelstrom also

[winter shoal]

I have a very rudimentary understanding of enhance but I think it's basically just stormstrike until you have 8+ maelstrom, wolves when you can type shit

Voltaic when you have <=1 SS charge

[marble schooner]

type shit

[winter shoal]

LL/CL when you're down bad for reset

[marble schooner]

you should make class guide man

[winter shoal]

[marble schooner]

you got the knack

[winter shoal]

Me when a spec is easy to play badly

[marble schooner]

Its crazy how at some point, if you get like really good at a class, you lose the ability to teach it to someone else

unless its piss simple like fury

half my guildies will answer "yeah idk just press your buttons and shit"

[winter shoal]

I was gonna say, there's only so difficult you can make "Use your CB and BB, exe when the weakaura goes kaching"

[marble schooner]

my weakauras goes meow

what do

[winter shoal]

Reroll I'm afraid

It's already ogre for you

[marble schooner]

gosh darnit

[sour frigate]

try explaining energy management to a healer player...

[whole yacht]

My weakaura goes "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH"

Custom made

[marble schooner]

its funny that you edited it from AAAAAJ to AAAAAH

[sour frigate]

and explain that u shouldnt send bok as soon as its available

[whole yacht]

Fat thumbs.

[marble schooner]

went from an angry swede to an angry human

[sour frigate]

cuz it fucks the said management

[whole yacht]

I remember a while ago. When I first swapped to fury. I had a moment of "wait. So I take the thing that let's execute proc whenever. But I DONT press it immediately?"

[eager thorn]

i never thought to get a wa for execute procs

well an audio one

[sour frigate]

have one too

[whole yacht]

It's actually not an anger scream. It's a pure fear scream.

[winter shoal]

If you look in #449510248579858432 this is like mistake number 3 that 75% of people make

[marble schooner]

wait so the spell thsts called EXECUTE, its the one that hits the LEAST?

[sour frigate]

helps a lot tho

[eager thorn]

i just have a visual one next to my execute button and when i see it go 3 i press

[marble schooner]

fury type shit

[marble schooner]

nice

[whole yacht]

That's funny

[winter shoal]

There are other conditions where exe becomes top prio besides 3x MFE

[eager thorn]

its just when sudden death is gonna run out isnt it?

[marble schooner]

no

[eager thorn]

or when you have nothing else to press but slam/ww

[marble schooner]

2 sudden deaths also

[sour frigate]

Jugg

[winter shoal]

• AJ about to run out
• SD about to run out
• 2x SD and <=7s remaining
• 3x MFE

[marble schooner]

or BS is at like 10 sec cd and you got 2 stacks

[eager thorn]

ah ye

[winter shoal]

I think I simmed this a while back and it was within margin of error

[eager thorn]

i meant aj running out tbh

[sour frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/so-that's-a-ratio-ratio-sopranos-aj-soprano-gif-10641657527893549893

[eager thorn]

i dont actually know what sd does xd

[marble schooner]

interesting

[winter shoal]

Just lets you use exe

[eager thorn]

ah

[marble schooner]

you just die suddenly

its kinda troll

[sour frigate]

iconic warrior ability

[winter shoal]

FWIW I also simmed the SD conditions a while back and they're pretty close to margin of error too

#fury message (more stuff further down from the message I linked)

[marble schooner]

Yah fury has to be one of the specs that lets you do we the most

[whole yacht]

I simmed once. Didn't know how to read it. Haven't simmed since. I just kinda eye ball and raw dog

[marble schooner]

like you could be someone that ONLY presses execute at 3 stacks

and still parse orange

[eager thorn]

i just press buttons and do damage

[winter shoal]

I mean that's just an insane gried

grief

[eager thorn]

hit my macro when cds are up

[modest condor]

tbh a lot of optimisations are margin of error work

even things that people think are big are kinda whatever

[whole yacht]

Why? I still perform.

[winter shoal]

But you could be performing better for free

[modest condor]

like prioritising rampage over crushing blow and bloodbath is like 1% difference or something

[whole yacht]

Teach me how to run an in depth sim and how to read it. And I'll worry about performing 1% better

[eager thorn]

well you can also sim gear for stats

[winter shoal]

I mean it depends on what you're trying to sim, for the most part all you really need is top gear

[whole yacht]

Why would I need to do that? I can eyeball what stats I need more

[winter shoal]

If you're talking about simming APL changes that's more involved, but the official simc APL (which is what raidbots uses anyways) is gonna be best on average

[eager thorn]

how do you know what you need more of though

or if crit mastery is better than haste mastery etc

[whole yacht]

Easy. Crunch the numbers yourself on paper

[winter shoal]

I mean for example, I used ovinax egg on court because it simmed 1% better in thane spec, but hero track sacbrood was like 0.7% better for slayer on queen

[summer quail]

Top gear

[winter shoal]

No way I could've eyeballed that but it's free damage

[eager thorn]

they're saying without simming

[whole yacht]

Take the baseline differential per point. And calculate it on paper

[summer quail]

Ohh idk then

[snow edge]

You're just doing something harder for the sake of it at that point

[winter shoal]

This is just harder than running a sim?

[marble schooner]

aura

[eager thorn]

ye its get worse result with extra steps

[summer quail]

Just sim it. What's the problem??

[whole yacht]

Does it?

[winter shoal]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rjczCAMoNHTM5W7LRbeSN2

[whole yacht]

They are bullying me cuz idk how to read sims

[eager thorn]

yes i doubt your on paper calculations beat topgear in accuracy

[winter shoal]

You're telling me you would've manually crunched all the numbers of those different talents and gear choices?

[marble schooner]

bros doing dx/dy between pulls

[winter shoal]

fuck outta here lmao

[eager thorn]

nobody is bullying you

[whole yacht]

Top gear calculates a perfect world where all procs and uptime are within 1% margin

[eager thorn]

we're trying to see your reasoning for your decision to not sim

[winter shoal]

Tbf I am a little

[eager thorn]

ok well it is kinda deserved at this point

i wouldnt even know where to start with calculating the stuff myself

[whole yacht]

Running them numbers for 5 minutes between every kill. For sure

[winter shoal]

I do not condone this but kind of based

[winter shoal]

#fury message this sim took me like a minute to configure and it ran during a pull

[whole yacht]

I'm being bullied for being good at math. But not knowing how to read sim 😦

[winter shoal]

What do you mean by "reading" a sim?

[whole yacht]

Show me how to read it in depth. Why something is better. Not "hurr it's better"

[marble schooner]

Rimuru would sim

[eager thorn]

You dont really need to read much for top gear

[winter shoal]

Sacbrood + frenzied enrage is better because sim says it's 0.7% better

[whole yacht]

No. He would make Raphael calculate it

[eager thorn]

You just put in different gear pieces and choose the result that has the highest + number

[marble schooner]

aka simming

[whole yacht]

But WHY is it better. What makes it better

[marble schooner]

Raidbots is your Raphael

[winter shoal]

Because slayer likes haste more than thane ig

[bright sable]

Oh ye btw guys am I supposed to use my big CDs the second they come off CD even if it's a small-medium pack when in M+

[marble schooner]

THE NUMBERS MASON

[eager thorn]

This doesnt matter for perfomance

[whole yacht]

This isn't telling me information it's just "yep. This gives bigger number"

[snow edge]

What do you mean 'why'; it's doing what you're doing 'on paper', just more efficiently

[bright sable]

And should I hold onto combat pot until my main CDs come back or just pop it whenever it's up?

[eager thorn]

Its telling you what gear set is better

[winter shoal]

Generally yeah unless they're going to die in like 10 seconds or less

[eager thorn]

Which is info

[winter shoal]

almost always want to line pot with cds

[whole yacht]

If i get the same result as the sim for what piece is better. I know why. And therfore understand my class performance better.

[bright sable]

I think I hold onto my CDs too much in trash pulls because I expect the trash to die faster or my CDs to last longer than they actually do

[eager thorn]

idk i dont think the understanding of a class to that point is needed

[whole yacht]

But if I just sim with zero brain power put in. I learn nothing from it other than what piece i should equip, cuz computer said so.

[eager thorn]

at least not fury

[whole yacht]

🤔

[winter shoal]

I mean this but unironically

[eager thorn]

all i need to know is the ability prio/rotation

and let the computer decide what gear or talents are best

[sour frigate]

Then study some math i dunno

[eager thorn]

the big brain people do the talent theory stuff for me

[whole yacht]

I already have studied maffs

[sour frigate]

Not enuf

[whole yacht]

That's why I can do the same thing the sim does on paper.

It just takes longer.

[sour frigate]

Ok go hit a dummy 10k times for 3 mins

[winter shoal]

Me on ptr

[whole yacht]

Word. On it boss

[pulsar mason]

I bet you could run those 2m or more irritations in couple extra minutes compare to the computer

[sour frigate]

🙏

[whole yacht]

When you are good at maffs. Anything is possible

[dense elbow]

Do you really need to sim tho. If your goal is AoE burst, you know haste is worth less. So you build crit and mast/Vers
Then OF goes burrrr

GG ez

[whole yacht]

Truuuueeee

We didn't always have Sims ya know

Back in MY day. We had to figure that shit out ourselves.

[pulsar mason]

Reading sims requires high school level of reading at best. It’s not very hard.

[whole yacht]

To look at the numbers being higher with option a than option b. You need 3rd grade comprehension skills

I'm not talking about basic understanding of "this good. This not"

[bright sable]

Didn't simming start in like wotlk lol

[whole yacht]

No idea.

I didn't use it for the first time until legion

[modest condor]

i remember downloading simcraft in cata at least

[whole yacht]

(Also. For those that think I'm serious. I am not. I pay the membership fee to sim faster)

[bright sable]

Same even tho I don't understand the results

It told me purple egg instead of red egg

[whole yacht]

It's 1:30 am and I'm bored.

[eager thorn]

i love typing in chat for 20 mins to waste peoples time

[bright sable]

I took the red egg because less to think about

[eager thorn]

real human behaviour

[pulsar mason]

It won’t tell what’s bad or good. It will tell you exactly which combo is best and by how much compared to all items/talents selected.

[winter shoal]

There was a tool called Rawr back in wrath but I think it was kinda sus in its accuracy

[bright sable]

Fuck 8000 more DPS if I can focus on my other abilities way more

[whole yacht]

Nothing forced you to respond. And like I said 1am boredom

[bright sable]

It's 07:33 here

[eager thorn]

yea ofc nothing forced us

[bright sable]

I still cannot sleep

[eager thorn]

but we tried to help

[bright sable]

There is a reason the guild I am in is called Sleep Deprived

[whole yacht]

If item is -500k dps. It's bad. The sim told me that

[bright sable]

[pulsar mason]

I guess your napkin math is better.

[whole yacht]

Wth is that

[dense elbow]

What if it is -500k ST, but in a Dungeon scenario, it is actually +500k

[whole yacht]

Brother. Scroll up.

[bright sable]

So true

[whole yacht]

Hoodini

[bright sable]

Patchwork sim when I am multi target spec

[dense elbow]

[bright sable]

Ugh not having my emotes is killing me

[whole yacht]

Hey funky

You steal me a cat yet?

[dense elbow]

Hi Lemon, and no. Where is my cat pics tho?

[whole yacht]

Still waiting for you to send me a friend request

So I can send

[dense elbow]

Ppl keep saying that, but I got it set to accept DMs from shared servers

[whole yacht]

It didn't work

[sour frigate]

Skill issue

[modest condor]

rekt

[dense elbow]

Maybe on ignore 🤔

[whole yacht]

I've never talked to you before 2 days ago

Why would you ignore me

😦

[sour frigate]

anime pfp i bet

[whole yacht]

Fair

[dense elbow]

who knows

[modest condor]

tbh i block every anime pfp

[whole yacht]

Fair

[dense elbow]

Anime pics are basically cat pics

[whole yacht]

So. Whenever you add me. You can have pics of my kitten

[dense elbow]

Just send the message like the other 20 or so others in here

[whole yacht]

Bruh

I provided proof it won't let me

Idk what magic they did

But i don't have it

[dense elbow]

Lemon on a list
Prob said OF was bad in DF

[whole yacht]

Lmao

I just wanna show people my kitten. Without flooding this chat with cat pics

[young swan]

its for the best

[whole yacht]

Fair

[modest condor]

you can do that in #off-topic

[dense elbow]

If only Skyhold had an #off-topic channel

[whole yacht]

No chat exists except fury chat

[dense elbow]

Well, #arms is for dogs

[whole yacht]

I actually don't think I have opened another chat since I joined

[dense elbow]

Prot usually is cats

[whole yacht]

I don't even go into arms or prot

[dense elbow]

Then you miss out on cute dogos and cats

[sour frigate]

tf

[whole yacht]

I also have a puppy

[dense elbow]

[whole yacht]

Too bad you'll never get to see either the puppy or the kitten

Very unfortunate

[dense elbow]

It's fine, I got plenty entertainment in que simulator and my own key rolling between NW and siege over and over

[whole yacht]

I have a real special key

I haven't done a key on my warrior in so long. I have a 3 mists

[bright sable]

How do you guys deal with interrupts in a big pack?

Some sort of mouseover thing and you hover on their bar? Or spam tab and hope you find it? Or something else I haven't thought of?

[oblique trail]

macro to focus a target before the pack, then another macro to kick my focus target

[bright sable]

Huh interesting

[lilac plinth]

Tab

[bright sable]

I need to find more buttons on my keyboard if I'm gonna have enough keybinds to do all the stuff I have learned in here and on YouTube lol

[lilac plinth]

Interrupt

[bright sable]

Did you make them yourself or get them from somewhere?

[oblique trail]

I didn't make them but can share them rq

This is the focus macro, just hover over the mob you want to focus then press it
/focus [@mouseover,exists,nodead] []

This is the kick macro, it prioritises the focus target, and if there is no focus then just your current target
#showtooltip
/cast [@focus, harm, exists][@target] Pummel

[bright sable]

So you use the focus macro when walking up to a pack and then swap your interrupt spell with the macro?

[oblique trail]

I use the focus macro before/mid pull, and have two kick binds

One that's for my target, then one for my focus

[sour frigate]

Yeah basically no need for the focus macro if u dont have extra keybing (which is impossible if u fury)

Can focus via rightclick

[oblique trail]

Targeting a new target to focus it then swap back to your main target mid pull is not exactly practical

[sour frigate]

🤷‍♀️

Never had issues with it

[oblique trail]

I'm sure

Doesn't make it less impractical

If you're always able to make sure you target the right mob afterwards, no matter the pull state, then that's good

But it's not always that easy

The mouseover focus macro just makes it a lot simpler and removing a potential mess up, that'd cause you to either get a bit overwhelmed finding the right mob again, or rampaging the wrong target and then lose Frenzy stacks

[sour frigate]

Mouseover macros work so shitty for me tho might be becuz i have default plater

[oblique trail]

I've rarely used the nameplate for mouseover stuff

Unless it's a small mob stacked under a bunch of bigger mobs

[sour frigate]

Therefore its even bigger pixelhunt

[oblique trail]

Right, and right clicking the mob in this context to then focus it, then swap back to the main target isn't?

Nameplate or the mob itself, it's simply a tool to make it more convenient

[jovial coral]

Youre wrong

[sour frigate]

Not completely

Depends on habit

[jovial coral]

Wait bobzi you dont use the nameplate what the hell

Do you hover the actual mob

thats crazy

[sour frigate]

Bobzi

[golden hare]

bobzi

[vital ridge]

is dungeon slice ok to use for simming to get an idea for how much aoe I should be doing or what trinket to use in aoe vs st? I see some people say you shouldn't touch it, while others say it's fine. And is this something that only matters for fury warrior or do the other dps classes not want to use dungeon slice either?

[sour frigate]

Use patchwerk 8t 40 sec to sim something like burst

Trinkets usually dont change for fury

[clever belfry]

/focus [@mouseover, harm, exists] []
can even focus target or mouseover 🤯

And yes explicitly mover only works on enemies wowie

[vital ridge]

thank you

[eternal sundial]

Some classes use slice decently well but i dont feel like it's worth while for us

[ember narwhal]

Hey, in the Wowhead guide it mentions this line about RB with Opportunist (the Slayer RB buff when it resets itself), both with RA and AM. And ig I'm just confused why RB without the buff is higher prio, but then with it is lower?

Also follow-up, and maybe p minor and w/e, but: Is Opportunity the play rn or not? The Wowhead builds and FAQ builds here differ in that point.

[sour frigate]

Just smash it

[ember narwhal]

Sure, that works. xD

[summer quail]

opportunist sims lower for most people. even if it sims a tiny bit higher i would play fierce, no playing around it to optimize

[ember narwhal]

Also found the answer to that in the Wowhead builds not having SD talented for some of the Slayer builds, so likely more dated than the FAQ ones, which makes sense.

[ember narwhal]

Fair!

[summer quail]

no not dated. sd is not required for live slayer to work

only ptr/11.1

[ember narwhal]

Ohh, ic ic

Shit gets confusing after following the patchnotes for a month or two xD

[gleaming siren]

Default Plater is not real

[fickle bluff]

There's no consideration to opportunist with AM, since you'll only ever have rb
With RA you want to spend it on cb
You don't play opportunist anymore anyway so it doesn't matter

[ember narwhal]

Oh right, yeah that makes total sense. Cheers!

[chilly compass]

Hey all, how are we doing since last buffs? Do we look better for 11.1?

[dense elbow]

For PvP, sure, tuning that will nerf us coming: 100%. For Raid, we looking decent, who knows and cares. For M+, we looking at current PTR tuning to be able to keep up partly. Our profile is reinforced towards the 5t niche; instead of AoE burst. So we are doing that focus to 5t job better; but - blizz is at the same time making it so that pulls are likely going to be bigger and more often. As they are tuning away tankbusters, the worst healer check spikes and making casts more manageable. We got to wait and see where the dungeon damage value is going to be set. Still, I would presume and guess Fury Warrior DPS wont be a premium pick. Just a solid one. The same old, same old.
So, depending on what you are looking for ~ you can pretty safely leave with the impression we are looking to be fine, if nothing else. Just know that more tuning is sure to come. In our case? Prob as functional nerfs, or if we are lucky as some redistribution in our DPS profile.

[chilly compass]

Thanks for the detailed response, I’ve been tanking as prot war for the past year and decided to finally come back to fury but the buzz has made me consider my old mage. Hoping for the best.

[smoky vale]

yapyapyap nerf of

[dense elbow]

u2 jellybeans

[tulip osprey]

any PTR sims floating around?

[gleaming siren]

good cook

[restive peak]

Fuckin agreed, Silm w the plays

[sly crane]

Good idea

[south kayak]

That would mean that you’ve blocked silm, and yet you’re replying to them

[restive peak]

Silm is perfect

[oblique trail]

Focus

[halcyon wyvern]

Bring back uncapped whirlwind wrecking ball and old reck or riot 😤

[modest condor]

bring back mbg

[mossy fox]

mbg was good in the sense it gave us a good source of non-hardcapped damage

i'd take it back

[south kayak]

Wrecking ball would have to do 1000% more whirlwind damage to be worth it

Whirlwind does no damage

[whole yacht]

4

Take it or leave it

[modest condor]

mbg was worth it at like 200% damage or something

it doesnt need to be that crazy high

[coarse nest]

spending your meat cleaver stacks makes your next whirlwind deal 100% increased damage per stack spent

[south kayak]

Yeah but wrecking ball is a random buff to one whirlwind as oppose to 8 (?) seconds of whirlwind like 200% damage

[south kayak]

Uh oh, I like this

Would be nice if WW more damage consider MM has multishot that enables cleave and still does a good amount of damage

[sour frigate]

There is talent that stacks damage for it and also it does double cast on burst

[mossy fox]

mbg affects thane clap

[modest condor]

meh that's only 2 claps

[mossy fox]

clap ww ww ww clap

[modest condor]

lol

[mossy fox]

OR

[modest condor]

tblast

15mil damage per target

[sour frigate]

10kk tblast nuts

[sour frigate]

or this

[mossy fox]

reck blast -> ava to reset -> blast -> ww ww ww -> blast

[south kayak]

We blasting and spinning

[sour frigate]

only aoe buttons rotation

i take that.

[south kayak]

Also on ST

[modest condor]

oh no imagine ravager before your cds just because you want to proc the mbg

wops wrong ping

[south kayak]

I wanna be the right ping

[modest condor]

aint happening

[frosty scroll]

hi every1, coming back from a long hiatus, is fury still around the same it used to be at the end of df or are there giga major changes i should be made aware of?

[modest condor]

pretty much the same

[sour frigate]

rp cb bb gameplay still here

[coarse nest]

believe it or not fury still does some damage

[red berry]

mbg was so fun imo

i had a great time with it

[mossy fox]

i think it was pretty fun too aerith

[halcyon wyvern]

I loved it

Battle cry felt so much better imo reck is soft dick shit

Can someone link me their execute tooltip from the ptr

[whole yacht]

Someone honked at me the millisecond the light turned green. So we did 15 in a 25 the whole time he was behind me.

Does anyone else do this? Or just me

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah I'm petty about people riding close too ill go five under and then smile and wave when they eventually pass

the best part is when they pass angrily and then sit at the next red light next to me

xD

[whole yacht]

I love when that happens

Like "well well well. Where did that impatience and anger bring you, but right back to me"

[coarse nest]

hurry up and wait moment

[dense elbow]

This might give some more context on execute - this is while enraged

[modest condor]

xdd

[young swan]

50% buff for what

[whole yacht]

They want us to press it

But we must stand firm, and tell them no

[coarse nest]

bro natty raging blow does more than execute

[modest condor]

they need to buff it by another 50%

[fickle bluff]

real real real

[mossy fox]

then it'll maybe beat rb+slaughter

[whole yacht]

Just buff fury by 50% as a whole tbh.

[smoky vale]

nope

nerf fury

buff enh

[whole yacht]

Get outta here gio

[smoky vale]

nerf of

@dense elbow

[coarse nest]

I assume its like that right now due to anticpating 5 jug stacks but even then

how much does a 5 jug stack execute do on the tooltip?

[gleaming siren]

1.1 million

[smoky vale]

jug is crit remember

[mossy fox]

jugg is just crit chance yeah

[coarse nest]

oh yeah..

[whole yacht]

Poor brew. Dementia setting in

[coarse nest]

I just zug bro i barely read the talents

xD

[whole yacht]

Valid and based

[smoky vale]

nerf of

[south kayak]

Meanwhile RB still has SS and BC

[smoky vale]

hi caja

@mossy fox have you ever played a persona game?

[plucky gorge]

Does anyone have a macro for the Ravager at the cursor?

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip
/use [@cursor] Ravager

[plucky gorge]

thank you

[halcyon wyvern]

Slayer seems strong? with spear and the rb crit dam buff and execute buff

[modest condor]

oh is it tierlist season again?

[dense elbow]

Slayer is solid S tier, Thane is F tier.

[coarse nest]

Naowh just made a spin the wheel tierliest

xD

[modest condor]

yeah i know

he always does that

i forgor for a second and then i saw the actual placements and i was like oh right he does the wheel spins

[radiant plank]

Peetko is making his very real tierlists

[dense elbow]

In case you are genuinly curious; think of it as on live at the moment. Nothing changed really.
Execute is still weak, raging blow still strong.
Roar is weaker due to how the damage profile is being pushed, and spear gained a bit value.

[slim coral]

I saw

We are not in nerf range

[modest condor]

the usual "i know a couple of specs and the rest i just put wherever"

[slim coral]

[modest condor]

my favourite was when arms was like 15% ahead of fury and everybody had fury ahead in their tierslists

because nobody that doesnt play arms knows shit about that spec

[slim coral]

tbh

peetko had arms in A

and fury in C

[frigid cipher]

95% of all the tierlists out there for any type of game or whatever

is bs

xd

cuz its all opinion

[slim coral]

I'm just bored so I like watching for fun

[frigid cipher]

oh i get that

i watch them too

but rarely ever is it accurate

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/odo-ds9-baseball-safe-gif-21471561

[south kayak]

Let’s celebrate assa going from S to F

[smoky vale]

nerf of

cant ever escape that

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[south kayak]

I wouldn’t say MM is B

[gleaming siren]

Petko had enough other random bullshit go

[mossy fox]

nay

[nimble ermine]

good

[smoky vale]

i think you should try one out during season downtime

goat games

[frank harbor]

Hello there ! What's the Best spec to play with the next patch increase ? ( totally vanish the game from the last season cause of the bash on fury war) the big up come to be good no ?

[smoky vale]

we have 0 clue since its too early to know

🙂

anything could change

[frank harbor]

Yeah sure ! Do we have a date for the patch ?

[smoky vale]

nope

[hollow badge]

what are the odds we keep new buffs

[slim coral]

have yall heard the new raid music?

that shit is fire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KXTR8yz5Ls

[smoky vale]

hi

hi

hi

hi

hi

[slim coral]

wasup

[smoky vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[smoky vale]

i havent played hearthstone

[slim coral]

unlucky

[mossy fox]

prolly should at some point

downtime is gone soon tho

[smoky vale]

maybe next one

[supple fractal]

Critcake, is fury strong st now?

[smoky vale]

now as in current patch or ptr

[supple fractal]

PTR! sorry

[smoky vale]

doesnt reslly matter because its too early and anything could change

you are still losing to aug enh bm

[limber oar]

based on PTR currently (i know everything is subject to change) how does fury look relative to arms

in keys and raid ig

[mossy fox]

fury stronger

[radiant plank]

Nerf fury

and odyns fuyr

[smoky vale]

@dense elbow

[fickle bluff]

nerf odyns fury

[dense elbow]

[sudden tusk]

Bring back safeguard

[fickle bluff]

real

[slim coral]

rework warrior

remove 5 target cap

[dense elbow]

Careful with monkeypaw wishes. You ask for the removal of 5, we gain a 3 cap.

[fast mural]

imagine if our nieche would be ST tho

[tepid ravine]

Any idea on how both warrior specs feel in ptr compared to frost dk? Tried to do some research but I'm a bit lost and Youtube is swarmed with ass tier lists

[winter shoal]

Fdk is basically the same as current, no?

Both fury and arms are also very similar to current as well

[fringe siren]

any sims about warrior in s2 ?

[winter shoal]

Arms it seems like most people feel is a bit of a downgrade, fury is a sidegrade imo

[winter shoal]

Not public ones afaik but fury is looking pretty good with the current state of things, not at the top though (and ofc more tuning is coming)

[tepid ravine]

That's what I feared, arms felt clunky in s1 at least for me

[winter shoal]

You can log in on PTR whenever and test them

You don't need special access or anything

[tepid ravine]

Oh I didnt know! Thanks I will test a bit then, so I can feel the actual rotations

[rotund ginkgo]

got 640 :3

[smoky vale]

hi i killed queen

[rotund ginkgo]

hi so did i

[smoky vale]

gz :3

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/low-taper-fade-ninja-massive-the-meme-is-still-massive-yeah-no-massive-gif-9995754776955392143

ty, the burnout really got me good

friend told me abt a new guild so i hope itll be nice in there :>

[fading sky]

Arms will always feel clunky vs furys vert intuitive playstilf

At least until a rework

[modest condor]

grats

[rotund ginkgo]

hi cutie :3

[mossy fox]

hi wagish

oh grats wagish

[narrow delta]

Did you get it with Solid lads or where?

[rotund ginkgo]

nah havent been w them in a long time

3day burned me super fast

[rotund ginkgo]

ty uwu

[royal copper]

I have all tier in Heroic, and seems like hands are worst in main stats.. - shouldn't i replace them with crafted Omen 636?

[eternal sundial]

sim

[odd cipher]

damn that's a lot of crafts you have

[royal copper]

ilvl = Higher main stats.

[odd cipher]

yeye i was just surprised at the amount of sparks

[royal copper]

i only play M+ ^^

Its very frustating as warrior 😦

[odd cipher]

but if you want to switch 626 piece to 636, go and sim every slot of these items, hands may have bad stats, but helm/chest/legs have more strength and it might be more beneficial

[royal copper]

Self health and Target health

I know this is ElvUi - but isn't there something simular this without using Elvui?

[royal copper]

AIght - ill try!

[young swan]

shadowed unit frames

[tired violet]

hows warrior looking on the ptr

[slim coral]

it's a warrior

[smoky vale]

it's a warrior

[sour frigate]

Its an aug evoker

[junior gale]

abort

[molten night]

Abandon SHIP!

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[junior gale]

[molten night]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-17349365856782341010

[smoky vale]

noob

owned

[analog kite]

What does that mean

Good or bad

[young swan]

same as always

good but hamstrung by silly design

5 target cap, little important utility

[slim coral]

idk why warrior is capped at 5 still

so outdated

[south kayak]

I think we need 8 target cap cleave now with mid aoe cds

And giga rotational damage

[summer quail]

who knows. what's funny is they capped us even more this expansion 🙂

[south kayak]

Definitely should be 8 on cleave

They should get rid of TR/Spear and give us 8 target cleave

[ivory ingot]

uncapped fury would be disgusting meat cleaver no cap

[red berry]

8 targets 60%

[tired violet]

i want to bring my warrior out to main for s2 but i just hate gearing up

[whole yacht]

very easy to gear rn

[fair star]

U get new gear in s2

[tired violet]

yeah but i wont be invited to anything in s2 at like 540 ilvl

[whole yacht]

LIAR

[fair star]

Gear in the pre season

U will get good gear from the campaign

Like normal raid rn ilvl

Or heroic

[tired violet]

so you think its not worth gearing rn?

[opal zenith]

Gearing really is easy af rn.

[tired violet]

with what though

i feel like pugging has been such ass rofl

[whole yacht]

well, 2 heroic pieces basically for free from timewalking and 4 heroic/mythic dungeon completions

if you cant get invited to a group because of your ilvl. start your own

do world content. get the new ring

[tired violet]

true

thats what im doing now

didnt know if you meant something else i wasnt aware of

[smoky vale]

easiest way is getting carried through 10s by guild

[whole yacht]

all gio knows is being carried 😦

sadge

[tired violet]

if i had one

[smoky vale]

just need 4 or then do 1 hc clear then you can play by yourself

[whole yacht]

🤔

[scenic pasture]

Just a quick question because i couldnt find shit rn:
Does it only appears to be me, or is execute on mountain thane just a skill that i can unbind from my action bar?

[summer quail]

keep it keybound. it's better than pressing slam, in extremely rare cases it is pressed. think i pressed it once last dungeon i did(tho last dungeon was ages ago)

[scenic pasture]

yeah sure, but its like 2 times a key, WHEN it happens (never happens once in a key) or I just dont use it. meanwhile i made a charge macro with execute in it, just to spare a keybind slot. 🥲

meanwhile, running keys bc I'm bored and don't want to log on PTR because I'm scared that the buffs would be awesome to play and see them nerfed and getting sad about it. 🥹

[summer quail]

if it's in a charge macro that's fine

[nimble ermine]

2 times a key is crazy

but yeah keep it bound

i think i had runs where i didnt use it once

[scenic pasture]

mostly, i don't have to use it in a key. but sometimes, there is ONE dungeon, where i have to use it. then i do have to TWICE, because 1 is not enough for the shame. xD

maybe a have a wild one later, where is just PRESS IT instead of rb, just for the fun. going wild sometimes.

[analog kite]

Is it just me or is there a bunch of weirdos in the hunter discord

[whole yacht]

bunch of weirdos

[tired violet]

ty

i thought the same thing

[modest condor]

is there any class discord that isnt just a bunch of weirdos

[slim coral]

Warrior

[modest condor]

idk man

[slim coral]

Were the only normies

[whole yacht]

im gearing an alt mage. its 10000x easier to get into groups just cuz im a mage

[modest condor]

ive spent a lot of time in the warrior discord

[whole yacht]

than warrior

[slim coral]

[whole yacht]

kind of funny

[slim coral]

At minimum atleast our discord is active and responds quickly and is easy to find shit

You ask a question in mage discord it takes 4 hours to get a response

[whole yacht]

true

[summer quail]

no, but there are different tiers of weirdos

[tired violet]

warrior discord has almost been one of the best, if not the best

[tired violet]

until the healer is booboo and you keep dying

[whole yacht]

???

you die on mage? >

[tired violet]

in higher keys yes

[covert blaze]

no

[tired violet]

mage is pretty squishy outside of defensives

[whole yacht]

you have 700 defensives tho

[tired violet]

yeah but with a bad healer you can use them all in one trash pack lol

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-catstare-cat-stare-sus-catglare-cat-glare-gif-14942558849944709546