fury

[dense elbow]

Thane is generally the choice; but think most ppl that test things find slayer to be the more fun.
You should test both and pick what you enjoy the most

[outer cedar]

I like slayer but in season 1 I use thane.. I want change but can't find good talent.. umm.

[dense elbow]

Hey - go on the PTR, play around with some slayer

Promise you will have some fun

[outer cedar]

Um.. thats great...

[shut tusk]

I pick slayer whenever I can, I don't like the electricity theme of Thane

[outer cedar]

I also like slayer...

[earnest canyon]

feel the same yeah

[shut tusk]

It's like ok whatever it's stronger and it plays fine but the theme is very off-putting to me, especially the Pikachu sound when using thunder clap

I guess it's fine for dwarves but feels weird for certain races

Like orc fury warrior shooting electricity just feels weird

[clever belfry]

i think everyone should boycott playing TOP

[smoky vale]

gm andussy

[clever belfry]

youre not allowed to call me that

[summer quail]

idk, i think the theme is fine. we've had "storm" and "thunder" naming since forever. stormbolt, thunderclap and mountain thane is an obvious magni reference

[clever belfry]

is this guy TG or SMF

[summer quail]

smf unfortunately

[clever belfry]

gg

[shut tusk]

Ok it's fine for dwarves I guess since thanr and whatever, maybe also humans

[inner shadow]

Can y check off topic a sec?

[fickle bluff]

youre not serious are you?

[shut tusk]

But as an orc I feel it fits more enhance shaman or something

[fickle bluff]

of course you cant get multiple mythic kills from one lockout

[south kayak]

I found something funny with BM hunter, the Bear from Pack hero talent is doing way more damage than it does for Survival because it gets affected by all + pet damage on BM tree

Look at survival rend flesh damage

[shut tusk]

Plus their mastery

[south kayak]

[earnest canyon]

Pikachu sound 🤣

[south kayak]

2.1% vs 13%

[thick fossil]

I hate how strong wildfire bombs are.

[south kayak]

They either need to reduce the amount of scaling the bear gets or nerf it for BM only

[thick fossil]

1 button doing 40% of your damage. Seems legit.

[shut tusk]

They already did

[south kayak]

I love how much damage they do

[south kayak]

Wasn't enough

[sour frigate]

funny theyre fixing the bug every patch

[south kayak]

It's not a bug, necessarily

BM has a lot more damage to pets

so it makes sense

[shut tusk]

Idk I think BM is one of the worst specs in the game anyway

[sour frigate]

no they repatch the scaling each time cuz its unintended

[south kayak]

It's not PTR

their damage is like top 3 on PTR

[south kayak]

If it isn't unitended then they'd do that instead of just nerfing the bear itself

@thick fossil Wildfire bombs are your main damaging ability, that's not really that bad

especially on AoE

[inner shadow]

Yesterday someone suggested to sell a mythic raid lockout after ingot my 7/8m
The raid leader says that only 1 person of the guild can sell it
And it cannot be extended weekly it’s a one time sold

[smoky vale]

lockouts can be extended

[fickle bluff]

he means keeping it and extending it

which is correct

[smoky vale]

realistically everyone in the guild can sell, buyer cant know is all

[inner shadow]

If i sell to one guy and raid leader to another guy, does 1 get scammed?

[fickle bluff]

mythic lockouts exist in a permanent state, you cant offshoot from them

[smoky vale]

essentially

gm greg

[fickle bluff]

yes, its the same instance

[inner shadow]

I see. So i ultimately can’t sell my lock out

Unless i leave guild?

[fickle bluff]

its not youre lockout anyway

everyone who has been in that instance has the same lockout ID

[humble lark]

is it a bad idea to macro avatar with reck?

[smoky vale]

everyone who is saved to that instance can sell it

everyone who buys after the 1st is probably getting fucked over

[inner shadow]

Okay now it makes sense

So it is a 1 time sell:

[smoky vale]

yes but no

[inner shadow]

Raid leader wants to sell for gold for GB
I can’t sell, and team kills queen ansurek
I got 8/8m lock out and no gold

[smoky vale]

just sell before they do

what are they going to do

[inner shadow]

we dont like to scam

Especially for gold

[indigo arch]

Yea that'd be because there were better specs back then too, WITH utility.

[craggy raptor]

Atleast warrior was fine in terms of damage

U could bring other classes for utility

[lament otter]

hi gio

[inner shadow]

Also if u scam they can hire a hitman

[craggy raptor]

Lots of my mates got their place in world100 dps warr in rio back then

[inner shadow]

I think 800k is 7d ban and 4mil for perma xD

[smoky vale]

gm

[lament otter]

gm

Gio I think we’re almost done with court

[earnest canyon]

Wdym? I thought all the top guilds sold runs for gold? Is that banned now (no clue, never bought one, idk how it works)

[smoky vale]

gz i killed the lady with big butt

[inner shadow]

%?

[lament otter]

22%

[inner shadow]

A hitman is basically a guild that mass reports you

[inner shadow]

Do you lust on first dispell?

[gusty compass]

Did they buff fury again? I know there was a blue post last week. But is it buff number 2?

[lament otter]

I think so. I hardly pay attention to it

[gusty compass]

Our guild got 18 procent left on Queen.

[lament otter]

[inner shadow]

you still got quite the long run

[lament otter]

Sick

[inner shadow]

Silken last 15% is abysmal

[gusty compass]

Im fucking tired of that fight

[lament otter]

Eugh

I’d rather prog queen than court

[inner shadow]

If i dont find a guild to join progress asap imma just buy the kill and call it a day

[gusty compass]

Yeah fuck Court. But im tired of queen phase 1

[earnest canyon]

reports you for what?

[inner shadow]

I prob won’t raid againxd

[inner shadow]

Verbal abuse; when u get mass reported u get banned

[earnest canyon]

I havent followed what you were saying, but im curious as to what you can get banned for

Oh

[radiant plank]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1179738834808881212/1204229772851417088/IMG_1114.gif

[lament otter]

lmao

[dense elbow]

Walhe using his own screenshot to burn others

classy

[earnest canyon]

I wish my performance was that high lmao

[radiant plank]

Precisely

[jade tiger]

you can get banned for nothing if enough ppl report you

[earnest canyon]

i see

[dense elbow]

Oh, the massban thing has been proven again and again

[gusty compass]

Did they buff fury again? I know there was a blue post last week. But is it buff number 2?

Anyone knows any of this. Saw Critcake doing a YT vid yesterday

[earnest canyon]

seems a bit shitty

[lament otter]

Check ptr patchnotes?

[dense elbow]

PTR got another sets of buffs a few days ago, sure.

[gusty compass]

Could not find anything

[dense elbow]

But nothing today, if that is what you on about. All can be found in #updates-midnight

[inner shadow]

Its so perfectly made

[inner shadow]

Basically you hire a hitman for gold
Can be a guild who mass reports you, the systems detect all those reports and bans you.

[radiant plank]

Then you open ticket and are unbanned within 2hours

GG

[dense elbow]

Fun fact, blizz do hitback on flalseflag report guilds or as they were called, the profession mafia

[jade tiger]

last time i opened a ticket it took 2+ days for a response

[dense elbow]

If you open a ticket for hack@blizzard or whatever it is called, it always been within a few hours in my experience

They also a lot more sassy and fun than the GM representatives (and bots)

[fading sky]

Kittys get prio

[earnest canyon]

none of this has ever happened to me thankfully

[jade tiger]

they are slower or faster based on what your ticket is about? interesting

[dense elbow]

Depends on severity and where it goes, ye

Kinda weird that they dont have chat bots operational for 90% of tickets atm tho

[lament otter]

Sounds fun. I remember GMs used to tell me jokes when I asked for one

[dense elbow]

Now that I havent seen since forever and ever

prob not since wrath if not before

[lament otter]

Back when it was a live chat session in game

[dense elbow]

^

[clever belfry]

u get muted

to get banned from that it needs several mutes

[lament otter]

I think this was late Cata or so

[clever belfry]

like over months prior

[clever belfry]

leak

[inner shadow]

It changed

It skips the mute part now

We’re speaking of a toxicity point. Not spam chat

[clever belfry]

youve been gaslit by people who had prior offenses

[inner shadow]

I saw it happen with a friend

[dense elbow]

What are you on about now, Zen?

[inner shadow]

Toxicity ban

[dense elbow]

Why you on about that?

[inner shadow]

It doesn’t go through silence and muted

[inner shadow]

Cuz gio said to scam the lock what can they di

[clever belfry]

yeah and theyre gaslighting you

saying its their FirSt

its not

[dense elbow]

Scam the lock, is toxic silence and muted? I am so confused

[inner shadow]

why would my friend gaslight me, brother huh

[inner shadow]

Scams the lock, they can hire hitman

[lament otter]

Cause that’s what friends do

[dense elbow]

what is the context here, why would scamming a lock get you muted?

[warm crag]

its embarassing to admit you've been muted before

[inner shadow]

I? I’ve been

I’ve been playing ten years wdy think

[lament otter]

If your friends don’t gaslight you are you even friends

[dense elbow]

True and real

[inner shadow]

If your friend cannot tell you the truth when you ask the truth

[earnest canyon]

didnt you used to be able to hand in 45 carved crests for runed crests?

[inner shadow]

Gaslighting is one thing, asking you what truly happened and you lie is like. Why would you?

[warm crag]

why would anyone lie

[dense elbow]

Just remember, often ppl dont know why something happened. Especially when it comes to WoW flag systems

[inner shadow]

That too but we’re using their hypothetical here

[lament otter]

It’s the internet

[inner shadow]

He asks me about anything, had he got muted i assure you i would have known

[inner shadow]

But he’s a friend, not some internet random xd

[dense elbow]

You would know if he was muted?

[lament otter]

Oh lol

[inner shadow]

He would tell me

[smoky vale]

[chrome plover]

I got banned for 24h because I named my hunter on classic 'ballsack' and then when it got flagged for a rename I made it the same thing

[inner shadow]

When you get muted you need to stay online the amount of time you are muted for

[chrome plover]

lock me up officer

[smoky vale]

ballsack

[dense elbow]

The story is too broken for me to gather the pieces togheter here

[chrome plover]

my pet was called hairy

[inner shadow]

If i get muted 3 hours, i gotta stay online 3 hours

[smoky vale]

ballsack and hairy

[chrome plover]

and support told me that lots of people had been reporting me :(

[smoky vale]

❤️

[chrome plover]

for an offensive name :(

[smoky vale]

sallhack bairy

[dense elbow]

It was me and my alt army, you offend me

[chrome plover]

NERF OF

[earnest canyon]

i had a char called pissdrinker and that got reported cos I logged in one day and had to change the name

[dense elbow]

too far

[smoky vale]

real

@dense elbow nerf of

[inner shadow]

Gio said to scam the ID
i said why would i, since they can also hire a hitman
Baddpitt asked what’s a hitman
I explained to them what they are and what they do (mass reports you)
It cosys 600k for 7d ban and 4mil for perma which is kinda too cheap?
Blizzard somewhat dropped and stopped caring which explains why its getting cheaper.

[lament otter]

Huh, I only got flagged for a rename when I was named “Sendnudesthx”

[smoky vale]

how will they know who sold the id

and its not scamming if you dont know that no one in your guild sold it before

[inner shadow]

Wdym how would they know?

They target you they dont care

[smoky vale]

anyone saved could sell the lockout

hi who wants an ansurek lockout

my guild quit

thats it

[dense elbow]

The mass report service is a thing; but it isn't perma and it is very easy to get overturned. But sure, they can do things to annoy you.
Don't scam selling things tho, as you don't want an angry nerf with too much time on their hands, making it their lifes mission to somehow fuck you over. Cause they will one day find a way.

90% of the time, you will get off scot free

Up to you to decide if it is worth the 10% risk

[smoky vale]

hi do you want to buy my ansurek lockout

na 5m

pretty cheap

[dense elbow]

Sure gio, sure. But know, I will have Xan ban you if something goes wrong

no more skyhold for you

[smoky vale]

D:

[lament otter]

Do you accept feetpics as valid currency

[smoky vale]

no

[inner shadow]

Lot of people have already been muted or even banned short duration c rhey get toxic here and there
Seeing a verbal abuse ban, can somewhat trick them and think oh fuck i was too toxic and just accet it

[lament otter]

[inner shadow]

Ik a couple of guildies who had they got banned like that they’d accept it

[smoky vale]

if you are getting reported you probably deserved it

[dense elbow]

They will only find you to be toxic, if your chatlogs prove it. I wouldnt worry. It is litteraly one search of the text logs.

[smoky vale]

ya

if you never type

[dense elbow]

Dont worry too much about it Zen

[inner shadow]

If they find out the lock has been sold somewhere else

You’d return the gold

[smoky vale]

no

i would keep it

[dense elbow]

Why would you? What if they lost the save themselves

[smoky vale]

like what

[dense elbow]

Not your problem at that point - you delivered

[smoky vale]

you offered an ansurek lockout

after is not your problem

[inner shadow]

Yeah my RL is selling to nova founders, and i don’t really wanna harm that or cause issues. So fuck it ig

[dense elbow]

fair, I presume it goes to gbank for next tiers BoEs

[inner shadow]

I won’t be raiding probably

[dense elbow]

Well, then you wouldnt need the gold either way

nothing lost, either way

[smoky vale]

just uninstall now

[inner shadow]

i will need to see work schedule

big man ting ya

[dense elbow]

You could be a real mean little bastard, tho. Just hold the lockout hostage perma, throwing so many sticks in the wheels of the RL

tho don't do that

it is mean

funny, but so toxic

[smoky vale]

do you want to buy my ansurek lockout

[dense elbow]

I will pay you in paint scribbles

[eternal sundial]

Fetty Wap on the JBL @smoky vale

[inner shadow]

Ansurek lock out, actual 8/8m lock out

[smoky vale]

can you draw schnapp

[dense elbow]

I can draw a pretty decent ish circle

[smoky vale]

i was. listening to ye and jayz

[inner shadow]

Duck gio walhen and spongie are the epitome of brainrot of fury chat

You be sayin the most random shit around here

[dense elbow]

this over and over will do that to anyone

[inner shadow]

Oh my adventures with gb 14

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/jokj-gif-6604082208191347133

[inner shadow]

First 14 i got was gb, it depleted cuz tank dc, it fell to 11, then 13 dawn, then 14 gb, then deplete again

[smoky vale]

kitty spar me

[inner shadow]

I kid you not, this cycle happened 3-4 times

OML

[smoky vale]

are you ready to mak gora me

@dense elbow i challenge you to a duel to the death

[dense elbow]

Too late

I am already dead

[eternal sundial]

?

Who's duck

[smoky vale]

que es uno duck

[whole yacht]

False

[high echo]

avg. ww monk

[inner shadow]

Psyduck*

[inner shadow]

Add jojo sounds addon to jt

[high echo]

then it would be cool instead of giving bum energy

[inner shadow]

It really is

You go MUDA MUDA MUDA or ora ora ora with the punching/spinning

[eternal sundial]

有道理，多謝

[gleaming talon]

Fury war irl

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/shoo-cat-go-away-get-out-away-with-you-gif-3783972095861581153

[smoky vale]

吉吉赫夫吉赫胡韦赫韦赫鲁鲁乌赫韦乌希韦

[inner shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/yao-ming-ym-ym-twitter-michael-frauden-gif-21472064

[coarse nest]

I thought I had the addon to block this text

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/fiveish-xiaohongshu-yapdollar-five-dollars-gif-16238118891765423727

[mossy fox]

how come

do you not like top

[clever belfry]

[thick fossil]

Man, so many jokes to be said. Barely any of them appropriate. Lol

[south kayak]

Every button should proc slaughtering strikes, with execute proccing 2

[flint python]

is there a resource with sims for each spec from the PTR?

[thick fossil]

With no cap on how many slaughters stack.

[dense elbow]

Ye that wouldnt cause problems in PvP where Rampage is already oneshotting ppl

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

It's almost like you're reaching the crux of the problem by saying this

[gleaming talon]

Warrior is fair and balanced and to be “more” competitive should see minor buffs to damage

[mossy fox]

slaughtering bad but if it has to stay then just add exe to it

[dense elbow]

What if SS was per hit of the ability, and it effected all of them

[frank dawn]

or gut slaughtering bonus and don't add execute to it so it can be skipped if you want

[mossy fox]

works too

[frank dawn]

then they can fix that and the larger talent tree in 11.2

for sure will happen

[south kayak]

[modest condor]

remove it from raging blow and add it to execute instead

[carmine zealot]

Wish List:

Buff Rallying Cry back to 20% HP.
Make Intervene into an external usable by any spec.
Cause Battle Shout to affect Spell Power in addition to Attack Power.
Some extra form of mob control - Displacement, grip, tether, kick, etc.

[south kayak]

Would have to buff it or buff rampage baseline

[frank dawn]

some men just want to see the world burn

[eternal sundial]

We have a knock 2 stuns and a melee kick why do we need more

[high echo]

is fury ST very buff now critcake?

[eternal sundial]

The safeguard return makes sense

[south kayak]

Def would love safeguard from SL

[high echo]

honestly they should make more utility baseline

some talents are really lackluster

[frank dawn]

I would probably argue that the amount of utility in the tree is fine, and it's only because we have so much damn throughput it competes with - we can't actually take most of it - is the problem

now is that utility that we could go get it even in that theortical world useful?

ehhhh, debatable lol

[worldly dust]

when we will click execute not on accident?

[coarse nest]

They could make intervene more than just “redirect some melee hits”

Like give us some DR to go along with it and have it absorb all damage up to X amount

Similar to sac

Make rally more desirable in dungeon content

[frank dawn]

rally really grinds my gears

yo dawgs, we're doing a tuning pass on raid cooldowns

oh ok cool

but we've decided cooldowns need buffs outside of raids

oh, great

But not Rally

[eternal sundial]

Literally just safeguard

[south kayak]

[eternal sundial]

And we good

[coarse nest]

Indeed Phil

Would be great

[south kayak]

What would they do to Rally to make it better in dungeons?

less cd?

[oak peak]

increase %health increased in dungeons only

[frank dawn]

it just needs to be better when you press it, more hp for sure in dungeon settings and maybe some kind of leech or second wind effect

[small jetty]

probably what DHs have on darkness, double the effect in non-raid situations

[coarse nest]

Rally providing a damage reduction or a heal after the duration ends on top of the health increase would go pretty hard I think

Imagine rally functioned similar to our thane IV talent

Now all of a sudden it’s a more valuable raid cd and dungeon cd

Could be health increase + healing received

[thick fossil]

PvP balance is just so fucked up. I really think they need to just separate PvP and PvE into two games. Leave em both under the world of warcraft umbrella, but completely separate balance and tuning of the two. It's the only way they'll be able to make things healthy for both sides.

[frank dawn]

there's like 10 people playing pvp

fuck it

[thick fossil]

Lol, not wrong but those 10 ppl should at least enjoy some balance and tuning.

[coarse nest]

This is a pve focused game it’s rather annoying that PvP has to effect how well they make the game for the rest of us

[south kayak]

isn't PvP tuning seperate for the most part?

[frank dawn]

I mean kind of, there are pvp modifiers ALL over the place

but cooldowns and such have a lot less of that

[south kayak]

like fury uses execute in pvp lmao

[frank dawn]

but also kinda to this point here, like there are so many modifiers that maybe it does just need to be its own game. Similar to Plunderstorm - you could still earn a currency or something to spend in the main game idk

[thick fossil]

Yeah, they can't change some things in pvp due to the impact it would have in pve. As well as vice versa. So the tiny bandaid fixes are their solution.

[thick fossil]

Yup, exactly what I mean.

[carmine zealot]

Our knock is not good, doesn't even work on Primary target. So can't use it on stuff like ads on 2nd boss NW. Knocks are primarily only good for Ranged dps and healers though. Melee/Tanks need grips, tethers, kicks.

[frank dawn]

there are parts of me that miss the days of just trolling around in random bgs, but they've separated the mode so much at this point it is just a complete waste of time for me

[sudden tusk]

Give warrior 2 charges of kick in pve and return safeguard

[carmine zealot]

10% HP + 10% DR would be fine too. It just needs a buff.

[south kayak]

2 charges of kick and watch them not even use one

[coarse nest]

Random bgs were cool when they didn’t separate twinks from the pool

[frank dawn]

[sudden tusk]

Shaman ranged 12 second kick that gives 15% dr haha melee kick btw

[thick fossil]

My man over here coming up with the big wrinkly brain ideas.

You sir, deserve a pizza or a trophy. Or a pizza trophy.

[coarse nest]

Like I didn’t que into this random bg to have a fair balanced game, I would have qued into rated pvp if I wanted that

[real goblet]

can anyone pls pin AM and RA sims for PTR tyvm.

[worldly dust]

is there a possibilty for my character not to wear pickaxe after mining or other items? just to stay in my tmog all the time?

[south kayak]

Bring back Disrupting Shout

[clever belfry]

prot has it

[thick fossil]

See I never understood the desire for twinks. Such a degen concept.

[summer crater]

They're very close. AM has slightly better ST and very slightly worse AOE for me

[frank dawn]

there is an npc somewhere that will turn off the profession cosmetics, but I couldn't tell you where it is right now lol

[worldly dust]

thats more than i needed to know

[real goblet]

ouu ook ok nice tyvm!

[worldly dust]

thank you very much

[coarse nest]

Once upon a time fully min maxing power at level 19 was extremely fun

[south kayak]

Is it the only aoe kick?

[coarse nest]

Combining all kinds of gear with high level gems and enchants to have high stats for your level

And then pressing ambush on a clothy and seeing them get delete

Or being a charge rend monster on a warrior

[thick fossil]

Yeah but every game was the same. 2 or 3 holy paladins, 3-4 warriors and the rest rogues and hunters.

[coarse nest]

Well right once blizzard put them into there own bracket it completely lost its fun

[solemn plover]

delusional take

[coarse nest]

The whole point was being overpowered compared to the unaware leveler

[warm crag]

so true blue spongie!

[solemn plover]

that is why we are in an alliance red spongie

[south kayak]

I thought the spongies were fighting

[thick fossil]

I love that art, but no idea what you're trying to tell me. Lol

[solemn plover]

it is a rocky relationship

[south kayak]

fair

[thick fossil]

At this point, I forgot who Blue Spongie even is.

[solemn plover]

im spongie but blue?

[south kayak]

I only know Cyan spongie

that's greg

[slim pollen]

Feet of the lynx... sentinel cloak.. defias armor.. engi goggles... twisted chanters staff... all the memories 😂

[fickle bluff]

hi caboose

[coarse nest]

Such a fun time in wow

[south kayak]

mentioned you once and there u are

susge

[fickle bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-of-sauron-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16715227

[solemn plover]

hello spongie

[fickle bluff]

[solemn plover]

[slim pollen]

Still have some of those "19" characters from back in the day, but because of level/item scaling/squishing, they are now lvl 9 with far from optimal gear

[summer crater]

Potentially playing spear instead of roar in mythics will feel odd at first

[coarse nest]

Yeah my warrior “rendjourass” lost all of its gear I logged in one day and it was just gone

[summer crater]

Someone did a rend on his ass

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah bro I was a menace

Charge in with pocket priest on my side and rend everyone

The rends would tick for 100s iirc

Some of the levelers would have 800hp or something lmao

[whole yacht]

i remember being a lvl 10 spriest back in cata, and killing level 50s

twinking was fun

[coarse nest]

Hell yeah it was!

[south kayak]

daym

[coarse nest]

Wasn’t there a lvl 1 rogue that could kill 80s back in wrath or something like that

[whole yacht]

yes

stuff at that level was hard to set up though

i never had the patience for it

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah it was a huge time sink to fully min max a twinked character

[thick fossil]

One Spongie to rule them all?

[coarse nest]

Power ranger spongies

What’s the ultimate forum look like

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squidward-krabby-patty-smug-spongebob-squarepants-gif-9547716225990610286

[solemn plover]

this is @warm crag ultimate form

[warm crag]

evil

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-jugger-nuggets-gif-19032506

[clever belfry]

@solemn plover @warm crag when will u fuse to make purple spongie

[solemn plover]

fucked up locking dog

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-derpy-dumb-dumb-dog-derpy-dog-gif-3788913551531924086

[coarse nest]

Peak ranger performance

[smoky vale]

[thick fossil]

If I get dismissed from work early, it'll be Beat Saber time.

[eternal sundial]

i just got told warrior fear is shit cuz it cannot fear undead

[smoky vale]

Im only going to do 1 more key then im off pc rest of day 😦

[eternal sundial]

as if priest fear does

[smoky vale]

🙂

[whole yacht]

weak

[smoky vale]

i am

[whole yacht]

(i literally havent done a key in 2 months)

[clever belfry]

this isnt

actually true

some undead can be feared 👍

good example is the deathspeaker guy in underrot

and something else in s2 df that i forgor

[humble lark]

is thane looking to be the best hero tree in s2 ?

for m+

[junior gale]

Ask again closer to patch release

[cursive quiver]

still subject to change

[coarse nest]

🔮 says possibly

[uneven pilot]

There's about a 99.9999% chance doing that would result in less dps

unless its for PvP or something weird

[grim shoal]

Oh I was just told that following the standard rotation it suggests isn't always best.

[uneven pilot]

That doesn't mean a different pack, it means applying your noggin a bit.

Turning CDs off when you know contextually you should save them, maybe just not pressing your rage spender if you know you need to burst a few seconds from now, etc. Game knowledge stuff which is virtually impossible to do in code no matter how good your pack is 😛

[whole yacht]

just turn your brain off

and press buttons

[uneven pilot]

relateable

[whole yacht]

thats what i do

who needs to pay attention when your rotation is 3-5 buttons.

[uneven pilot]

FWIW Fury is one of the better specs for it even in context situations because of how short the build spend cycles are compared to a lot of other specs.

[hollow elk]

I need two more keys for three vault. I do one or two daily. It's not a big deal to pug most 10s very rarely do you find completely dead weight braindead players. Don't think I've failed a key since two months ago

[whole yacht]

you get invited to 10's?

[hollow elk]

That said I won't try and push past 11 lol

[whole yacht]

i spent like 2 hours applying to 10's the other day, had higher io than the leader, got declined to them all

[hollow elk]

Yeah if I apply to empty pugs I usually get accepted

[whole yacht]

lucky man/lady

[hollow elk]

Man and maybe people sees my clear amounts ? My io isn't even that high

It's like 2698 lol

[whole yacht]

this games rigged

[eternal kestrel]

Games rigged if ur not a enhance shaman

[whole yacht]

True

[earnest canyon]

what if you want to be ranged

[whole yacht]

Ele

[earnest canyon]

lol

facking shamans!!!

[eternal kestrel]

Fucking shamans!!

frr

[earnest canyon]

i didnt want to asy the bad word

[eternal kestrel]

Its gonna be okay

[whole yacht]

Fuck

[earnest canyon]

🙏

[whole yacht]

Don't be afraid

[earnest canyon]

I am always afraid 😦

[whole yacht]

Gimme a dollar and I can fix that for you

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-fuck-fuckity-f-word-gif-18501748

[whole yacht]

Brew gets it

[fair star]

why do you need rotation addon for fury

[whole yacht]

Bros already been cooked. Don't do it to em again

[gilded pawn]

is already fine

[whole yacht]

holy crap

theres a person named hekili

[candid falcon]

kind of astonishing that someone would see fury and go "yeah this is too much for me, where is my hekili"

but i guess everyone has their strengths and weaknesses so no sense in judging

[restive edge]

Still no patch date

[whole yacht]

some people would rather the game tell them how to play

and thats ok

[coarse nest]

Maybe the guy wants to learn a new class with a “coach” instead of reading about it on wowhead

[eternal sundial]

RWF hekili

[gilded pawn]

yea

nothing wrong with it

people play how they play

i personally have a disability where i hate playing the videogame

so hekili plays it for me

[whole yacht]

thats hilarious

[steady quarry]

Hey everyone! Started playing three days ago on retail and I always liked berserker/recless warrior characters. Is it possible to solo open world content with a fury warrior?

[gilded pawn]

yes

open world content can be done by any spec

[grim shoal]

Oh okay so what i already do haha. Somebody had just mentioned it wasn't accurate so I wanted to see if there was anything else I could do additionally to fine tune it more than I already am.

[gilded pawn]

its accurate

[steady quarry]

Well i didnt think about it that way 🤔🤔

[grim shoal]

Awesome!

[steady quarry]

And what about soloing older content raids or instances? Is it possible?

[radiant plank]

yerp

[coarse nest]

Fury is actually pretty cool to farm old raids on because you can just spam whirlwind and hold W

[whole yacht]

^

[steady quarry]

Damn I kinda wish to make him kul tiran because of how thicker he is 😅

But I do not have lvl 40 ally char yet so 🤷🤷

[gilded pawn]

its ok you can work on it!

[high echo]

you can do it in a few hours easy

[pseudo marlin]

once u go druid u dont go back

for old raids that is

warrior is superior in every way for other content

gigachad class

[gilded pawn]

yeah druid is the best

warrior doesnt have enough movespeed

[pseudo marlin]

we need shapeshift ability

into tank that goes 1000% speed

FV101 Scorpion

lore wise pretty accurate

warriors are tanks

[steady quarry]

Well then i should start leveling to 40 🤷

[coarse nest]

Ye feral is pretty chill too

Hold W and swipe spam

[covert coyote]

Just gotta make a Speed set for it. Get 2 1Hers with Windwalk enchant and SMF for bonus MS. Frenzied enrage, Fresh Meat, you’ll be zooming

[fair star]

Guys lemme cook

Make whirlwind

Nerfed

So 45% instead of 55

But make it cleave to 7 extra targets instead of 4

So we hit 8 targets

[coarse nest]

[covert coyote]

The existence of that thought just got a Warrior dev fired

[coarse nest]

Imagine we get to cleave 8 targets

[covert coyote]

Literally unfathomable

[keen dove]

make roar uncapped

ty

[red berry]

cleave 8 targets and 60%

im joining the war on gaf on the side of idgaf

[coarse nest]

I want to be top boss damage so people feel inclined to pi/aug me

[civic field]

Is all PTR Fury buffs meant to be for PvP as well? Or are the buffs to Fury reduced from the PTR?
I understand that its PTR and ALOT can happen, I just wonder what happens IF it hits live servers

[frank dawn]

no specific pvp reductions I'm aware of atm

or no new ones anyway

[loud field]

hey gamers

how yall doin

I had a question about fury m+, I know mountain thane is better according to the wowhead guide but how far behind is slayer out of curiosity's sake?

[summer quail]

Unless you are pushing for title play whatever you want

[loud field]

fair

just didn't know if the gap was that big

to where even like weekly 10s/11s were much better as thane

[frank dawn]

the gap gets bigger on higher keys, like 12+

in the 8-11 range it hardly matters

[loud field]

good to know, thanks

[summer quail]

Gap is decent, not massive. Still noticeable tho

[loud field]

so basically it's whatever but thane is better in m+

[frank dawn]

yes Thane is the best

[loud field]

got it ty

all I needed to know

i'm looking into warrior as my alt since I main DK for next tier

[silk wharf]

well, hopefully, stuff will change with warrior before then.

[loud field]

we have too many shamans and only the one warrior so I figured battle shout is nice to have in case our warrior is out

[loud field]

is it looking grim?

[silk wharf]

Just being iterated on

[loud field]

aaaa fair

[silk wharf]

Waiting for what looks like a final build to base expectations on.

[loud field]

good idea

[shut tusk]

How far ahead is thane?

[winter shoal]

According to this #updates-midnight message thane was 5% ahead on multi target at the time

That was before circlet was a thing but I doubt that had much of an effect

[shut tusk]

And in ST?

[winter shoal]

It's slightly lower than slayer

Less than 5%

[shut tusk]

As in, with M+ build

[winter shoal]

Yeah

[shut tusk]

So it kind of balances out?

[winter shoal]

I mean kind of? You care more about multi target damage in M+ than boss damage in general

Thane is enough better in aggregate that most people generally play it in higher keys

Slayer has more aoe burst vs thane's higher sustained multi-target, so for very low keys slayer is often still better

But also it's good to know how to play both in either case

Also note that the above is probably changing slightly with 11.1, but my guess is it would favor thane because thane gets buffs to BT/BB

I haven't seen any sims or done any aoe testing myself though

[shut tusk]

I know it's kinda dumb and most people don't care about the theme

But I just cannot get into the electric warrior feel

I feel it doesn't fit my character

[winter shoal]

Noxiv was doing like 16/17s on slayer

@dense elbow plays AM slayer in like 14/15s I think

Playing well matters a LOT more than small differences in spec

At least for cases like slayer vs thane where they're relatively close to each other

Or AM vs RA

[flat river]

nooo

ptr offline

what do i do now

[whole yacht]

curl up and cry

[pearl sequoia]

go do delves

[wraith wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-simpsons-now-we-play-the-waiting-game-gif-16327789852622540331

[slate token]

someone is telling me that its not worth pressing defensive stance because it reduces how much self-healing you do. is this true?

i find it really hard to believe the self healing is enough to outweigh 15% dr...

[frank dawn]

that is one of the most absurd statements I've ever read

and I've seen some pretty absurd stuff

definitely use defensive stance when you need to

[summer quail]

dstance is heavily underrated. 100% worth pressing

[trim hound]

Indeed, would it even reduce healing tho? Impending victory and bloodthirst both just heal a % of your hp. I guess from leech?

[summer quail]

yea only reduces leech and cshb, not a big deal.

[frank dawn]

yeah idk what they are even talking about, I guess some miniscule reduction from leech

[slate token]

gotcha, that is what i figured as well. thank you for confirming

[summer quail]

[smoky vale]

i saw that

very bad!

wonder if other changes were pushed

[bleak zinc]

Think they might move it be gathered in another manner?

[frank dawn]

Honestly if the stick was gonna be so far up their ass they were gonna refuse to give it earlier than FOUR fuckin months, I’d almost rather not have it at all

But I’m assuming they are gonna just do it some other way

[smoky vale]

could be achievement maybe

like how pvp weapons are gain x amount of conq during a season

gain 6 week of crest cap or soemthing

[remote bobcat]

wait what? Werent dinars the mechanic that lets us buy gear?

[smoky vale]

yes

[remote bobcat]

removed?

[junior gale]

Bis case scenario they are making a better way for dinars to come into play while also including M+ loot

[smoky vale]

thats what it says

[remote bobcat]

Deadge

Deadge

[smoky vale]

ya

but they shouldnt limit it to 2 either

[junior gale]

eh 2 is fine

[oblique trail]

2 allows you to get your bis weapon and your bis trinket on the highest track

Which is basically what you'd already use them for

[sinful spoke]

Banezi more like weebezi

But 2 dinars is perfect

[smoky vale]

yeah but i want to get as close as i can to buying all my bis from vendor

🙂

[odd cipher]

current build is release candidate means unlisted fury buffs are locked in? we gucci?

[smoky vale]

oh today i want to play ww

let me go vendor and play

[sinful spoke]

Don’t jinx it

[sinful spoke]

What do u want wow to be my guy

[sour frigate]

No u dont

[sinful spoke]

U want wow to be a sandbox game?

Tourney server

?

[smoky vale]

yeah

[sinful spoke]

Wrong game gio

[smoky vale]

playing game is fun

[sour frigate]

Session based

[smoky vale]

gearing not

[sinful spoke]

Go play ffxiv

[smoky vale]

14 sucks

3 second globals

likebwhat

[sinful spoke]

If gearing wasnt a thing m+ would be worthless for raiders

[smoky vale]

i alt tab jerk my shit and am still waiting to do anything

[sinful spoke]

And raid would be worthless for m+rs

[smoky vale]

yeah ik

[sinful spoke]

Itll kill the game

Its never happening

[smoky vale]

thats what i would like

not what the game needs

[sour frigate]

Devastation evoker gameplay

[smoky vale]

real

if i could get all bis gear for vendor

i would grind out 5x the crests

idc

[sour frigate]

Bet

[oblique trail]

It's 2.5 seconds, but even then a lot of classes have off GCD abilities to weave in between GCD abilities

[smoky vale]

(i only got to 30ish)

felt not fun

[oblique trail]

There's a stark difference between lvl 30 and lvl 100

[smoky vale]

like your new pfp banezi

[oblique trail]

Even lvl 80

But it's fair, the combat is not for everyone

Especially coming from wow which is just inherently faster

[smoky vale]

maybe if i got on a boosted character but yeah going from wow to 14

not good

esp fury

[slim coral]

Ff14 is so slow

[smoky vale]

hi bazed

i mean when i said i could do a global alt tab read a paragraph and be back before the next one im serious

[oblique trail]

If you're quick enough you can do similar things in wow

[smoky vale]

ya

active typer mid key

[cerulean grail]

Its rlly a true statement from some1 who rlly never played FF14 to talk about the 3s global, at high level a lot of melee dps have a complex rotation almost as fast as the current fury or rogue outlaw. For example ninja have two rotations to do at the same time. One gcd lock while doing another between each gcd.

[clever belfry]

ill be honest i alt tab mid raid bosses

like half the fucking time

[smoky vale]

rotations arent complex i think

[clever belfry]

just replying to dms cause im just that famous

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/xddd-gif-11484761101775539239

you just like my gm

[clever belfry]

ok but are they human

[smoky vale]

bro is tanking ansurek responding to dms mid pull

proceeds to lose threat because im doing dam

[clever belfry]

ok so theyre not human

[smoky vale]

ya

[sullen dove]

me when insta dooming for no reason

[slim coral]

[clever belfry]

WRAROR DIEAD!!!

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[clever belfry]

do not the gato

[sullen dove]

gato caliente

[winter shoal]

I prefer perro caliente

They call me the glizzy goblin

[quartz matrix]

Viper feels about the same tbh there is enough weaving that you don't feel the gcd much

[oblique trail]

As a Machinist player it almost feels like playing with wow GCD

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/get-blown-up-dog-dog-explosion-sticky-notes-gif-17071604041793579031

[void vault]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamining-class-tuning-on-11-1-ptr-build-58999-369802#comments

are these even newer buffs on top of what we have already on updates-war-within channel?

[sullen dove]

probably not

just the official nerd numbers being updated to what those values say they should be

[pearl sequoia]

^

[void vault]

i am getting confused really, i saw this post on the front page and i was like wait a sec

[pearl sequoia]

they can buff CB by x% lets say, but the most recent post shows it in game logic im assuming

[summer quail]

It's the same buffs from archis most recent post

[vague cedar]

guyz for m+ this season do u think these buffs mean we will outshine other specs on a 5 pack

[pearl sequoia]

buffs are for next season

[winter shoal]

After the buffs our raw damage is relatively high but still not as high as some other classes, and other classes also bring utility we don't. So like always, we'll probably be fine but not meta

[final birch]

utility is fake

big damage is utility

[fathom wolf]

If things die before they do shit you dont need stuff to counter them.

[smoky vale]

hi

nerf of @dense elbow :3

owned

gn

[dense elbow]

Problem is utility is more flexible in value. You can't put a DPS value on a dispell.

You can value raw DPS output.

So if our damage isn't extreme, then the lack utility will be a shackle for viability

If a ret did 5% less (not 5% more as on live), you still would value the ret more as a pick.

[smoky vale]

you can kinda put a value on a dispell in terms of hps your healer doesnt have to do

[final birch]

hi

[dense elbow]

Having someone survive is worth a lot of DPS. Freeing healer GCDs. So on and on, is worth a lot.
Hopefully warrior just get to bring enough of a DPS lead to be worth losing those advantages

Bring back hybrid tax

[smoky vale]

what hybrid taz

[dense elbow]

Being able to dip into more roles, healing and DPS, as an example. Meant you were less efficient at both, as you could be more flexible

[final birch]

There is always something. You will find a way to work around dispels ccs and such no matter what. Warrior does 10% more than anything else and suddenly shockwave becomes best spell in the game. Pre-nerf s3 havoc having most damage meant you had to bring ppal to make him live, but you did it anyways because it was doing good enough of a damage so that it becomes worth. Dh doesnt have a dispel and its ccs are comparable to current warrior ones so theres no utility argument to be made. Current shaman does most damage but cant live for shit so you do whatever you can to make him live.

[final birch]

?

[dense elbow]

Dispell still must be cowered as needed. You can bring options, and warrior is not one of those.
That is why our DPS must be relatively higher than a Ret to make that trade worth

[ivory ingot]

Just cause you do the most dps but die doesn't make you the best it's the one that never dies

[final birch]

yeah because enha is meta because its immortal

[ivory ingot]

Play shaman then

[final birch]

I am.

[ivory ingot]

Get out then

[final birch]

your dumbass argument coming out of nowhere is not gonna make me do anything lmao

its not even remotely related to the discussion

but yeah

ait

[ivory ingot]

Yeah I didn't read it

[dense elbow]

Big suprise

[ivory ingot]

[sour frigate]

Balls

[modest condor]

yeah

[shut tusk]

Another ranged dominated tier

[young swan]

old

but yeah the fights kinda stink like shit for melee

[shut tusk]

Rude

I'm not that old

[young swan]

i tell myself that every day

[vague cedar]

honestly hope that the buffs dont help that much in raid

so we can just still have our buffs in m+ but thats just me 🙂

[young swan]

think they probably help more in the raid than in m+

[dense elbow]

Our struggles never was keeping up in small pack scenarios. In mist we do alright, if you don't grab extras.
We struggle cause our mass AoE comes from CDs, CDs nerfed to hell because of the raid.

So while the buffs on our 1t-5t is great and do help. We simply fall behind more, as our profile is even more squeezed into 5t the niche.

Buffs are buffs, just don't expect them to fix the reason we fall off as pulls gets bigger. The main reason we fail as DPS in m+.

I pray they retune the damage profile from rotationals, and into our CDs, for m+.
(Or you got to ask for better meat cleaver; or silly broken ST DPS)

[vague cedar]

no i agree @dense elbow I think thats the biggest issue with us is on bigger pulls we just simply cant hit half the targets and it really sucks

[golden kiln]

Honestly, if they went all in with us being 5 target cap like outlaw, that's completely fine. But they need to make sure we are by far the best at that target amount instead of having specs who can beat or match us at 5, but proceed to square root cap at 8 or 12+ and absolutely leave us in the dust with more mobs.

[sour frigate]

outlaw is 8

the moment is specs that are 8+ targets still beat fury at 5

[dense elbow]

If they made us 5t machines, then you better pray us doing that DPS is more than the others do on 10 or 15... And that would make others look real bad real soon.
So ain't going to happen.

I see no world where 5t can, in a way that is fun for others, bring more value than uncapped on bigger pulls

[golden kiln]

Shadowlands fury slapped in m+ damage wise and we didn't have much support above 5 targets without Troar and OF

spear did a lot though, but not as much as what we have now for over 5 tar aoe

[dense elbow]

I don't remember us slapping, just being as now - decent. Still, as I said - like in mist, SL dung, we ain't too shabby

[golden kiln]

Yea, and it's fun because we still lean into the 5 target design, there's nothing wrong with staying at 5, but blizz need to decide on one or the other for it to feel more like a niche instead of a jack of all trades master of none

5 target at its best feels awesome, instead of having a typical aoe rotation like others, we instead just do crazy cleave while maintaining high ST prio

maybe they could support 2 different designs in a talent choice node for WW cleave, but idk how blizz feels about giving specs that much coverage in aoe target amounts

[golden kiln]

Haven't played it since SL, whoops

[dense elbow]

If you want the best of both worlds, that is giving us mass AoE with CDs

[golden kiln]

or maybe it was always 8, then super whoops

[golden kiln]

I don't want the best of both worlds, I want them to stick to one or the other

[dense elbow]

As you can't balance us around 5t and be fair, in a world with giga pulls

[golden kiln]

and ideally, with how few specs are hard limited to low targets, they go all in with 5

5t is fair, dungeon design needs to support it more

it works way better the higher you go key level wise too when giga pulls become less realistic for surviving

since we're still at a point where timing is dependant on not dying instead of more dps

[dense elbow]

Ppl want bigger pulls, not smaller. Keep that in mind

[golden kiln]

People want bigger pulls, but if people always got bigger pulls you'd be surprisingly bored faster than you think

bigger pulls feel good because they aren't always that big

[dense elbow]

Again, we can shoehorn in our niche to fit. But that is at a cost of everyone else outside of it

[golden kiln]

if 10 is the standard, it feels flat and 20 becomes the new exciting big pull

also, 5-8 tar pulls feel completely fine and very fun to me, I don't see how people would have an issue with that

m+ ideally should be very few Lieutenant packs, mostly 5-8, few 10+

[dense elbow]

For our 5t profile, sure. But now you making a world that is boring for most DPS (they are uncapped), and tanks and healer especially. As you are forcing this grouping at that small size with mechanics punishing those two roles.

Sure, we could introduce more doors. Physical barriers, like in mist.

Noone likes that tho

Is there a way to make android stop autocorrecting what you write? Cause fighting it all the time is annoying as fuck

[golden kiln]

You're completely assuming most DPS would find that boring. 5 target packs are fun for most people, anyone who thinks overwise is pretty delusional imo as there's already enough big pulls as is. You shouldn't need more than say 1 big pull (10-20+) per 2 or 3 min CD window, as that lines up better with the specs that do huge almost uncapped aoe.

I really don't see how you think this is me asking for blizz to work everything around fury, dungeons are already mostly limited to 5 targets if you exclude mobs that literally don't matter (and most people would be doing themselves a favour by filtering those mobs out of details)

I just want fury to actually be the strongest when there are 5, since the specs that are tuned for big pulls are beating us in our niche as is

[golden kiln]

No need, usually it sorts itself out once you reach a high enough key level for huge pulls to not work outside of massive CD alignment and lust

[dense elbow]

I assume ppl feel this way, as I feel that way and ppl are loud about feeling this way.

[golden kiln]

if people really want huge pulls, just give them irrelevant little low health mobs to give them their quick dopamine spike

[dense elbow]

When we are forced to go smal, we find a way around it, or complain

As we are on a timer

[golden kiln]

5 is not small...? lol

3 is small

[dense elbow]

5 is small

[golden kiln]

4 is a bit small maybe

no bro lmao

5 is a solid aoe pack

[dense elbow]

I disagree strongly

[golden kiln]

small is when some specs feel weird with if they should go ST or aoe rotation

[dense elbow]

5 is a pretty standard pack. 3 is with a lieutenant

[golden kiln]

agree to disagree bro, I'm not gonna bother typing any further if you're gonna keep this going for the sake of it lol

[dense elbow]

You then pull multiple packa

So you usually would go 3+5, or without lieutenant, 5+5+5
You keep pulling as much the tank can handle and healer can keep you up for

If you think a pull of 5 mobs are a big pull in WoW, I honestly don't want you in my keys tanking

[golden kiln]

never said it's a big pull lol, please read what I'm saying more carefully. 5 should be most pack sizes, anything lower is boring outside of bosses or maybe lieutenants, big pulls are 10-20+ like what anyone else would say, but they should be maybe 10-15% of the pulls at max, this still allows people to send their CDs on them for 2 min classes, and keeps big pulls feeling special.

[dense elbow]

And how would you in this world of yours enforce these small pulls, without it turning into a tank check or healer?
If you can stay alive pulling more, you will.
You don't do one pack at a time if not forced

If tanks are dying on 5, it is a world where they are struggling a lot and that, usually, isnt good for their enjoyment

[pearl sequoia]

yea nah

[static bison]

is there an addon to see the dmg of execute instantly and not like 2 sec after u press the button? I hate it

[sour frigate]

check nameplatesct

@static bison

[turbid willow]

anyone know the stat soft- and hardcap off the fury??

[steady quarry]

Which professions should I do on fury warrior? 🤔 Should I start with two gathering professions to make some money or go straight one gathering/one production (like engineering? or maybe alchemy for the heals?)

[smoky vale]

there are no stat caps in retail

[south kayak]

Doing TW and some insane twinks came in lmao

one shotting everything

[shut tusk]

Well, DR is a sort of Softcap

[smoky vale]

no

[fickle bluff]

and you do not take it into consideration EVER

[smoky vale]

you listen to the robot

[sour frigate]

How so

[shut tusk]

Secondary stats gain less benefit after a certain Threshold

[smoky vale]

yeah but that doesnt matter

[sour frigate]

and?

[south kayak]

you're a softcap

[shut tusk]

And what I'm just answering the guys question

[summer quail]

If sim tells me to go heavily into dr i do. Trust the robot

[shut tusk]

And who is saying that he shouldn't?

[south kayak]

Heavy into damage reduction?

[shut tusk]

I just a swered the guys question I'm not saying he shouldnt go into DR

[summer quail]

Yes. 200% vers, no damage taken

[south kayak]

If you get 200% vers, would you take no damage

actually

[summer quail]

If getting 200% vers was possible yeah xD

[shut tusk]

Theoretically, I guess

But I don't think it's possible to get even close

[south kayak]

Yeah, I don't think it is

I assume legion had the highest value of versa ever

[summer quail]

I had 37% vers in df s3. Very far away

[fickle bluff]

8.3 was the highest secondaries ever got

[south kayak]

Was there a corruption to increase Vers?

[fickle bluff]

yes

[south kayak]

I don't remember but there probably was for each stat

[fickle bluff]

dont you remember the vid of cdew at like 70% vers on his resto shaman and just going afk

[south kayak]

oh I do now lmao

in ghost form

[golden hare]

wasn't that the azerite trait that healed you in sprirt wolf too

[fickle bluff]

idk shaman lore

[golden hare]

uheldigt

[restive granite]

350 pulls in, still getting 80% of our raid night with p1 wipes in ansurek

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[smoky vale]

🙂

sounds like race to world last

i believe

[restive granite]

whats funny is that ive been jumping from warrior to hunter to mage to druid

to cover for ppl been rotating

and every role has been an easy p1

we got like 2 p3 pulls

and ppl were "ok i dont know what to do didnt watch this part of the video"

invalidating all fucking progress we made

[high echo]

chaging classes during prog aint it imo

[smoky vale]

its not hard

its more so changing players

[supple fractal]

what aoe build you guys been running on ptr?

[dense elbow]

varriations as we do on live

nothingnew

same old same old

[plush ice]

With AM slayer for keys, or BS comes off CD before reck, do you hold it for Reckstorm?

[fickle bluff]

no

unless its very close

[plush ice]

Then do you hit reck on CD when it comes back up, even if you dont have much with it then?

[fickle bluff]

yes

[plush ice]

ok, ty

[sleek parrot]

is there any difference in opener when you are playing thane and ravager or I just replace bladestorm with ravager in sequence?

[fickle bluff]

replace bs with ravager

you wont press bt during ravager since its doing it for you

[hybrid karma]

there exists a hard cap for stats
126% for secondary stats (126 Mastery Points so % depends on the spec)
49% for leech, avoidance and speed

[eternal sundial]

🧢

[hybrid karma]

i mean we had proof in pandaria remix

[sour frigate]

not sure

i had 120+ mastery today

might be 126 but i cant remember exactly

[hybrid karma]

126 mastery points is not 126%

[sour frigate]

ah damn ure right

[hybrid karma]

176,4% is 126 mastery points if the wowhead guide is still up to date

for fury

[humble lark]

Is There any place I can find all warrior changes coming in s2?

[eternal sundial]

#updates-midnight

[merry night]

wait are we not playing slayer anymore?

[tardy lark]

depends on content

[merry night]

im guessing MT is M+ and Slayer is raid?

[high echo]

Yes

[frank dawn]

Keys 11 and under the difference between the two is super small tho if you really prefer Slayer

Once you get into the 12+ range the thane advantage gets stronger

[fossil rapids]

Thane's visual effects are a lot nicer though

[worldly dust]

do we have macro to have thunderclap and whirlwind depending on talent?

on one button ofc

[winter shoal]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707,spec:2] Thunder Clap 
/cast [known:280392,spec:2] Whirlwind
/cast [spec:2] Slam```

Oop

Fixed

[clever belfry]

spec:2 goes hard

[winter shoal]

I stole it from someone else, blame them

[covert blaze]

balls:hd

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry

[jovial coral]

@oblique trail

[clever belfry]

banezi back on nitro

[oblique trail]

had it gifted

might as well make good use of it

[jovial coral]

E girl?

[oblique trail]

maybe

[clever belfry]

banezi is an egirl yes

[oblique trail]

wouldn't you like to know

[jovial coral]

Say less

[clever belfry]

u should dm her right now

[jovial coral]

Gonna gift some nitro real quick brb

[tardy lark]

banzai loves the attention of dms

[oblique trail]

yeah I for sure respond to them all

[whole yacht]

its true. banezi has always responded to my dms

(i have no clue who banezi is. never talked to them in my life)

[flat river]

anyone else game crashes when they try to login to PTR?

[flat river]

Banezi i always thought your name was Banzai like the tree

xD

[flat river]

oop fixed it

[gleaming siren]

Banezi has never not responded to my DMs

[oblique trail]

Slanderous

[jovial coral]

Can confirm bonzoi does not repsond to dms...

[river reef]

banezio also loves getting tagged in #fury for questions about stat priority

[coarse nest]

@oblique trail How much multistrike do I need?

[fickle bluff]

@oblique trail whats the cap on armour pen

[sullen dove]

how much anomaly proficiency do i need

[whole yacht]

@oblique trail what is the weather like today?

[jovial coral]

why are there multipe spng what is going on

[solemn plover]

?

[whole yacht]

theres always been multiple

[clever belfry]

do u have runestone or not?

[clever belfry]

7

[fickle bluff]

yes

[fickle bluff]

?

[clever belfry]

god what was arp cap in wrath

like 14XX?

or was it 1204

i forgor

[jovial coral]

1400 innit

[clever belfry]

wowwiki lists 1230 as 99.9 and max

think that sounds legit

[warm crag]

?

[clever belfry]

actually no, i just didnt read the note

it lists wrong values for the % arp cause no one ever updated the tables

(fair)

its 1400

[clever belfry]

649 king

[fickle bluff]

🙏

[clever belfry]

this is softcap tho!! make sure u sim if going over still gives u value!!!

[warm crag]

i will get that much and no more thank you

[clever belfry]

source: voices in ur head

[warm crag]

source: that one addon that lists soft caps on stats

[fickle bluff]

truestatvalues my goat

(i wish it would explode)

[warm crag]

irreversible damage caused by simply uploading one addon !

[clever belfry]

i just uhh

attack enemy?

[fickle bluff]

real

[summer crater]

Warriors seeing a revert of the latest buffs right before season 2 or one week after

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-socks-gross-disgusting-foot-gif-6662447972867821962

[whole yacht]

warriors seeing nerfs at all ever*

[oblique trail]

@jovial coral@river reef@coarse nest@fickle bluff@sullen dove@whole yacht@solemn plover FREAKS

[sullen dove]

wtf..

[coarse nest]

[whole yacht]

wow rude

[solemn plover]

real

[eternal sundial]

Bansi egirl

[clever belfry]

i dodged

too ez