#fury
smoky vale
summer quail
@mossy fox
clever belfry
farmed
summer quail
clever belfry
nooš ±ļøeR (hard r)
smoky vale
š
clever belfry
ill go take a shower
smoky vale
whats the debuff that says you took a bomb
clever belfry
keep being bozos yall
sullen dove
a 3 min long debuff idk the name of
slim coral
sullen dove
Something to do with concentrated venom or sum
slim coral
just pulling your chain bud
pulsar quest
bro banezi ur literally just getting to pad like crazy
sullen dove
oblique trail
Well
pulsar quest
ur doing a fuck ton of add damage
oblique trail
My guild also just lets me do my job
And they do theirs
Aka I am Fury so I bomb adds
slim coral
step 1 to parsing
pulsar quest
my adds die like instantly lol
oblique trail
They kill boss
slim coral
be in a guild tha doesnt pad
sullen dove
Bonzai most inethical padder
sullen dove
If someone uses the simp gem it would proc extra stormbringer stat buffs too right
comparing only two pulls I went from 35% uptime to like 64% uptime before I swapped to thunder lord
But idk if giga proc ohtta my mind
slim coral
If someone uses the simp gem it would proc extra stormbringer stat buffs too rig...
were you in grom's chat yesterday?
humble lark
is fury builds changing with s2? was thinking of trying it out on ptr
sullen dove
for a little bit
oblique trail
is fury builds changing with s2? was thinking of trying it out on ptr
They are, but just use the baseline S1 talents and change stuff around for testing
slim coral
you missed it lmao
sullen dove
I saw ss of 12k
humble lark
ok š
sullen dove
where the 50k pic be funny to see
pulsar quest
i have to beg my ret pally to lay off the adds for next clear
slim coral
he has it
pulsar quest
the mf does too much dmg
sullen dove
Why urgent are you playing rn
sullen dove
Eh I meanā¦ yea
smoky vale
was a badass leap though
oblique trail
holy balls those web blade baits are diabolical
sullen dove
I never have to worry about not being in it cuz I have to pop it 
thick fossil
@smoky vale It's time. I'll see if I can get Synth Riders to work today.
pulsar quest
I never have to worry about not being in it cuz I have to pop it <:wicked:937093...
2nd pops best pops
change my mind
pulsar quest
nah thats third
smoky vale
<@335579026259312641> It's time. I'll see if I can get Synth Riders to work toda...
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sullen dove
yep cocka
smoky vale
holy balls those web blade baits are diabolical
how should they be different
pulsar quest
so i got mega fucked during prog
smoky vale
just more to the right?
pulsar quest
i had to do 2nd pop (where 2 min cds come up), then i had to do platform 2 2nd pop (right as CDs are supposed to be going off)
oblique trail
We've always baited opposite side of the boss compared to the circles
pulsar quest
and then 2nd essence set
smoky vale
pull some rank
rank deez
oblique trail
So you have more room to move
And there's less chance for the blades to have their center near the circle, or even in the circle
pulsar quest
we did a stack on each side of the boss so that u can easily side step into the circle
sullen dove
i had to do 2nd pop (where 2 min cds come up), then i had to do platform 2 2nd p...
as what classā¦ 
smoky vale
was i apart of the problem
pulsar quest
fury warr
smoky vale
should i have been on her butt
sullen dove
fury 2nd pop who cares you cd the roots after
smoky vale
ish did you like my leap...
pulsar quest
yeah it was fine because like it was gonna be up either way if i helf a few seconds
sullen dove
Just L uptime a bit yea
oblique trail
It's prob just the positioning of the boss that's a bit awkward compared to how we do it
pulsar quest
i just didnt want to do it because for the first 100 pulls we had our ret pally on it
oblique trail
But like no one died so it's fine
pulsar quest
then they randomly swapped to me
smoky vale
But like no one died so it's fine
i almost did š¦
oblique trail
Right but you didn't
dapper goblet
@sullen dove
smoky vale
@sullen dove
sullen dove
@sullen dove
pulsar quest
@sullen dove
oblique trail
X is where we had group 1 and 2 bait, circles are where the pops are
We rarely ever had bad overlaps on the circles doing this
oblique trail
And the boss was also positioned differently
dapper goblet
for yellow
sullen dove
oh I see what this is
as soon as he rerolls to blue xeos advocating for him
another one fallen to the dark side
dapper goblet
um false
gleaming juniper
this is just slayer m+ build, itās the same as raid build
granite crown
this is just slayer m+ build, itās the same as raid build
?
smoky vale
@thick fossil i can watch 1 moer i need to go eat after
thick fossil
<@218217312346570752> i can watch 1 moer i need to go eat after
I will play another experiance map than. those are insanely cool
gleaming juniper
?
what?
you can play that exact build in the majority of the raid and m+ unchanged
the only diff w/ the other m+ build is swapping bladestorm for ravager and going thane, unless you play no OF
vast saffron
Any PTR builds? Trying to test all sorts of classes.
frank dawn
basically the same as live builds, just not using OF and picking up VC in those cases
gilded pawn
You can do some RA titans torment stuff
vast saffron
basically the same as live builds, just not using OF and picking up VC in those ...
Oh, so just this then
No Massacre despite Execute buffs?
frank dawn
nah massacre still down v bad
frank dawn
probably? not sure if we can really know until sims. Almost certainly Wild for Thane. Only Slayer might have a case for Cruel
cerulean grail
take this
thick fossil
Oh, so just this then
Heh, such choice in the bottom tiers.
cerulean grail
instead of this
vast saffron
So apparently this spec randomly just got buffed out the ass on PTR? lol
thick fossil
It got buffed again, yes. Out the ass? Uh, not really. It will be on par (maybe high mid) once all the dust settles.
wispy thistle
So apparently this spec randomly just got buffed out the ass on PTR? lol
We deserve it for how many times we got nerfed in season 1
frank dawn
Do not question the Blizzard man and his infinite wisdom in nerfing Fury Warrior every week
fair fox
Just avoid aoe shenanigans or itās back to the nerf window for single target
edgy widget
It got buffed again, yes. Out the ass? Uh, not really. It will be on par (maybe ...
definitely buffed out the ass
it was like +15%
summer crater
Any PTR builds? Trying to test all sorts of classes.
Been using this
edgy widget
the question is whether or not it was undeserved, and that's hard to answer cause balance is all over the place
edgy widget
Been using this
my dude you're on a computer lol
junior gale
15% buff ontop of the previous weeks buff is insanely huge
summer crater
my dude you're on a computer lol
Yeah I like making things extra complicated
inner shadow
is iit best to pot on bl 1st dispell on silken or pull?
coarse nest
instead of this
But meh thinkingā¦.
hardy cargo
my dude you're on a computer lol
we hate the snipping tool around here
junior gale
yeah
edgy widget
is iit best to pot on bl 1st dispell on silken or pull?
guess it depends on your timings, but probably on pull if you want two of them
summer crater
Never even tried windows 11
coarse nest
You have to auto hide the taskbar to avoid this and I personally like having it always show
š
thick fossil
the question is whether or not it was undeserved, and that's hard to answer caus...
Indeed, which is more where I was going with my comment. Yes we got buffs, but will it bring us up to the rest. Who knows at this point. Shaman still look stupidly strong, and Mages are on a rocket ship to Jupiter or higher.
summer crater
My computer is so bad I have to use the browser discord instead of the client because it uses too much cpu
edgy widget
Indeed, which is more where I was going with my comment. Yes we got buffs, but w...
it's not even bringing us up to the rest though, when the "rest" are all over the place
if anything, it brought Fury up to the three other really high performing specs, and well ahead of everyone else
summer crater
It's funny when the standard is seen as enhance because they're so stupidly op
edgy widget
Enhance is just always bugged
sullen dove
is iit best to pot on bl 1st dispell on silken or pull?
I use on second web charge p1 with second cds and it comes up first dispell of p3 with cds and both bosses stacked but sometimes boss can die right then if your guild is fast and do big dam
but otherwise just pull prolly yea
summer crater
if anything, it brought Fury up to the three other really high performing specs,...
BM, enhance and which other spec is the top right now on ptr?
junior gale
pugging M+ is suffering incarnate
edgy widget
I don't even know that enhance is at the top on ptr right now
sudden tusk
gonna do a video. during prime time how long does it take to get invited to an IO key
edgy widget
but again, it's got a new bug every week
storm rune
43 min invited to 1 key
The fact that you're getting invited is already a testament to your skill
summer crater
I know destruction was crazy for a while but there was some bug
thick fossil
if anything, it brought Fury up to the three other really high performing specs,...
I do feel bad for Monk. In all specs. They seem to be the only class that hasn't gotten love or hate during Season 1.
tardy lark
gonna do a video. during prime time how long does it take to get invited to an I...
just dont minigame bro
pohx poe league instgead š
thick fossil
gonna do a video. during prime time how long does it take to get invited to an I...
On your Shaman or Warrior?
thick fossil
What's your current IO?
edgy widget
are you gonna change your name first, cause I feel like that might influence how many invites you get...
south kayak
destro got its tier set nerfed twice or somethin
And they fixed something with their tier giving more mastery than itās supposed to
sudden tusk
What's your current IO?
sudden tusk
are you gonna change your name first, cause I feel like that might influence how...
dog if im a known guy id be humbled by that knowledge
edgy widget
actually I meant the other way around 
thick fossil
And you're gonna try for more 15s? Good luck, hours. If it's any of the 15s you still need.
south kayak
They nerfed the BM bear from the hero talent pack and itās still doing insane damage
edgy widget
known for BRICKING keys
south kayak
And fire mage just does giga aoe
sudden tusk
known for BRICKING keys
worthy folio
Nice, pumping now?
tardy lark
lock and bm still gooder
inner shadow
I use on second web charge p1 with second cds and it comes up first dispell of p...
WE got to 10% on 7:20
sullen dove
Assuming u had a lot of ppl dead
south kayak
I donāt know whatās the difference between live and ptr fire mage but their Ignite is just doing way more damage on PTR
sullen dove
But yea should be fine to pot on the timings I said then
My boss died at like 7:23ish this week
south kayak
I donāt know whatās the difference between live and ptr fire mage but their Igni...
Could just be bigger mastery numbers
inner shadow
wth all live
inner shadow
What I do is i odyn'sfury on pull
when first frontal goes through, i leap trinket potion,
at 0:13 sec generally
sullen dove
o I no have odynā¦ but yea I used cds around then on second kill
First kill was just on pull then on second back look and see mr cakes at the top of course usin cd when the rude stacked and still comes up for second charge so did that
Was weird I just felt like I was not playing good but still got a 99 off it, missing like 150k dps or somethin but sadge
oblique trail
What you should do is just press CDs on CD then you parse on Silkussy
sullen dove
but still gaming either way I guess
hold until they stack after first frontal then second charge, first dispell, the instant p3 starts so they stack and itās up first dispell again max value on jorsh
sullen dove
oblique trail
Or well, ig you can do same as Thane
It clips OF a bit but eh don't really care
Less brain power
sullen dove
figure just wait for stack cleave both more dam still up for damage amp
Only thing I used to do first kill is use cds earlier before boss runs away
oblique trail
If I do this I also have CDs for when adds are stacked at 1:30
sullen dove
Hits both a bit and all the sdds
oblique trail
If you hold they'll be dead by then
Unless your raid just for some reason doesn't touch them
And I still have CDs running for the 2nd charge
sullen dove
only 1 dk fighting for his life to grip em
royal copper
Rotation mid fight:
Thunder Clap -> Raging Blow x2 -> Rampage -> Bloodthirst .... Repeat!
What am i doing wrong here?! - I'm getting frustrated, cant go high on dps o.O
sullen dove
uhā¦ I mean you donāt have to hit thunderclap on cooldown
only if you donāt have a bt or rb to hit or you have thunder blast charges
or if in aoe to keep up stacks
willow cradle
Rotation mid fight:
**Thunder Clap** -> **Raging Blow x2** -> **Rampage** -> ...
Need more than just that to know what's up, do you have logs you can post in #449510248579858432 ?
inner shadow
o I no have odynā¦ but yea I used cds around then on second kill
what talents u use?
sullen dove
Think using odyns as thane is pretty uncommon now too
royal copper
Think using odyns as thane is pretty uncommon now too
Yeah i changed that just now to try something out..
sullen dove
what talents u use?
royal copper
uhā¦ I mean you donāt have to hit thunderclap on cooldown
Timewise on the rotation its not on cool down.
sullen dove
Is this on like silken too
royal copper
i need someone to help me explain this like a kid - ive been overreserched plennty crap and im as a point ive lost my hair o.O
sullen dove
you donāt need to raging blow back to back if you are able to rampage
Like the general idea is rampage > crushing blow > bloodbath and repeat as long as you can
inner shadow
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dBAv9CrPQ1KbRMqx?fight=40&type=summary&sour...
i use full burst on 10 sec as first frontal goes through, i pot, and it allows me to get potion back on last dispell
sullen dove
If you need to hit clap for ww stacks or thunderblast is up sure hit those
but you hit extra rb/bt only when you have to and donāt have reck and need to get to rampage again
pot at like 1:45 should still be back up for last dispell but either or really should be fine
Like bursting a double dmg boss with cds I think is more boss dam than cleaving off 2 bosses but also the on pull pot would bleed into some adds too I think itās not that big of a deal
sullen dove
That was for the other guy having a rotation problem
sullen dove
just gave like a basic overview to maybe elp
inner shadow
so pot at 1:45 and at?
sullen dove
and yea vc prolly a lot better than odyns
Itād be up first dispell of p3 too same as on pull
Like 6:50 or 55 or something
inner shadow
last dispell is at 7min
sullen dove
Sure that
sullen dove
yar
but you can like hold cds during second intermission and use them as soon as p3 starts to hit both bosses with them
And it comes up for the dispells later on time
inner shadow
second intermission is the rock slide?
sullen dove
ya the circles
inner shadow
i mean as soon as we get into them i have cds
im better off blowing them, no?
or else timing wont be correct with pot
sullen dove
Timing is still fine unless you get like 3 sets of balls
Which should be uncommon I think
inner shadow
cuz we get circles- then pull in- charge, another pull in, dispell
sullen dove
the start of p3 to the dispell in p3 is like 90 seconds
slim coral
Rotation mid fight:
**Thunder Clap** -> **Raging Blow x2** -> **Rampage** -> ...
well for starters The rotation should be Thunderblast into Rampage into Bloodbath into crushing blow in terms of priority
sullen dove
thudnerclap
slim coral
I am curiosu where you got raging blow x2
slim coral
thudnerclap
inner shadow
i get 2 rb and then Bloodbath
slim coral
?
If we're doing the opener into a normal rotation when woudl you ever press rb twice?
esp in aoe
sudden tusk
The fact that you're getting invited is already a testament to your skill
update we didnt find a healer and keyman logged off
tardy lark
at 1:45 is the charge at 7min is the dispell
you can just go to lorrgs.io and see all this
both boss ability timings and what competent players press when
inner shadow
If we're doing the opener into a normal rotation when woudl you ever press rb tw...
opener? i thought he said rotation
slim coral
well yeah after the opener you would be going into the normal rotation
you would never press raging blow twice in a prio scenario
inner shadow
no i know that
i was speaking of his rotation
i thought that was what we were talking about xd
slim coral
after thunder calp you would still prio rampage tho
inner shadow
YESS
sullen dove
avatar doesn't enrage
slim coral
junior gale
tardy lark
sullen dove
roach in the wild
junior gale
šŖ³
tardy lark
the career suicide was a treat to follow
tardy lark
drama is the best when it doesnt involve me
slim coral
he worked at blizzard bro
slim coral
he knows more than you!
covert blaze
i watched a clip when he was playing another mmo
slim coral
junior gale
the ashes clips afterwards was gold
covert blaze
and he flamed whoever pulled an extra mob for like 10 minutes and then he found out rewatching the clip that he pulled it himself and was in complete denial
tardy lark
https://tenor.com/view/dart-darts-game-of-darts-miketyson-gif-5028490
this would've been a kek emote under your gif, but tyrannical moderators have not given me that power and im very angry about it
inner shadow
radiant plank
this would've been a kek emote under your gif, but tyrannical moderators have no...
damn moderators ā
tardy lark
damn moderators ā
radiant plank
inner shadow
do you do more damage on dispell or charge stun?
inner shadow
fuck
inner shadow
its the same damage amp
cuz its charge then dispell
sullen dove
thatās likeā¦ 8 min into the fight
Psure ppl never hit that anymore ever
if you mean the back to back amps
tardy lark
it dies somewhere between the charge and dispel when they occur in sequence
which is like 7 mins
inner shadow
it will die at around 7:30-7:40
it's better to use cds after frontal to get as much aoe as possible than on pull, ye
zinc ferry
Hello can some1 help me out with something?
I'm in 634 thats my gear and i can't do more than 1,4M dps and the end and i think it's not that good in my gear (sometimes 1,5 or less then 1,4) And my quick sim on m+ dungeon slice simmed 2M dps. This means that i could do almost 2M dps?
zinc ferry
Then how should i check the dps that i could do?
radiant plank
Target dummy 1 target sim
then go remove all your buffs in game
and hit a target dummy
zinc ferry
thats how my dps build up
radiant plank
for the duration of the sim
zinc ferry
then go remove all your buffs in game
oh okay i try that, thanks
inner shadow
how can i check in logs the dispells ?
summer quail
how can i check in logs the dispells ?
inner shadow
im tryna see who they dispelled cuz raid leader claims i am fuckin up swarms, which i am not buying
means dispelled or just expired?
eternal nebula
Haven't touched wow since launch basically, how are warriors going into next patch?
native wadi
doomed
inner shadow
could u help me out privately if i link u the log ?
summer quail
no, i am wayyy too sleep deprived atm
sullen dove
thats how my dps build up
Not too sure but just looking at it seems like a proportionally low amount of bloodbath and crushing blow to rampage
Are you sometimes just double rampaging when you have the rage to allow that
Should almost always try to rampage > crushing blow > bloodbath even if you have enough rage to hit ramp again earlier
Also odyns and thane st the same time donāt work as much
Typically going for vc instead of odyns for more execute bloodbath dmg
zinc ferry
so i hould waste some range and press bloodbath or crushing blow
sullen dove
yeah both ideally
before rampage again
And of course hitting clap whenever you need to to keep ww stacks up and keep cleaving
zinc ferry
Yeah i know that odyn is not the best option but it just feels good to press š
zinc ferry
but thanks i try to focus on this more
but i don't think that i can play fury next season i even struggle now to find group maybe just try arms
frank dawn
if our damage isn't cracked we'll never be desirable in M+ in the current state of things. Just have to hope blizzard will tune us high, and actually let us stay there for once
so kinda depends on your goals I guess, but warrior is def not the easy path to playing and getting invited to M+
imo
whole yacht
Just start your own groups
Running your own key is always the easiest way to play as fury
Unless you have friends.
zinc ferry
Rn we plan to form a group so i probably play arms or ench shaman don't know yet
whole yacht
If your goal is getting invited/having an easier time in keys. Enh shaman is the better choice
safe cradle
So this might be dumb, for uldrax, looking at top parsing fury. Why are they opting for cs over tr and why are they not using meat cleaver and whirlwind at all and kinda just spamming bloodbath and thirst. Also not taking OF at all
compact knot
means dispelled or just expired?
let me check
compact knot
im tryna see who they dispelled cuz raid leader claims i am fuckin up swarms, wh...
also how would you be fucking it up, you're supposed to tell people to go to the center and get dispelled 1 by 1, thats like what the raid leader is supposed to do
inner shadow
also how would you be fucking it up, you're supposed to tell people to go to the...
the fucking moron said first that i didn't get my dispell off, while that's not true cuz it disappeared, then i got it again, so it means it jumped
he said no my position was not under boss i wasnnt correct
junior gale
So this might be dumb, for uldrax, looking at top parsing fury. Why are they opt...
because WCL took off adds counting towards your parse on that fight. So these degens are going full ST
inner shadow
like if u fudck up the dispell, it doesnt disappear from you
it jumps if you are close no?
or dead
slim coral
It jumps to either the boss or a nearby ally
royal copper
Does anyone have a good plater profiile where i can see my dots?
compact knot
if jumps if you are under the boss, or if whoever is getting dispelled is on the stack of people
slim coral
But you must get dispelled
slim coral
Does anyone have a good plater profiile where i can see my dots?
Jundies
winter shoal
Does anyone have a good plater profiile where i can see my dots?
I'm a big fan of jundies
royal copper
š Checking it out
whole yacht
Quazii is good too
safe cradle
because WCL took off adds counting towards your parse on that fight. So these de...
Okay that makes more sense
It was hurting my brain
So only way you can parse is inting the raid a bit?
compact knot
on that boss yes
junior gale
safe cradle
Good job blizz
whole yacht
I mean. The top parsers are usually people farming parses, so their group doesn't need them to do damage to adds
safe cradle
Last week I saw I did like half the dps I normally do and I was like uhhh do I just suck now
compact knot
I mean. The top parsers are usually people farming parses, so their group doesn'...
DING DING DING
most people dont care so they just go full pad
inner shadow
But you must get dispelled
if i get dispelled but am not under boss, does it jump or not?
slim coral
No
compact knot
if i get dispelled but am not under boss, does it jump or not?
it jumps to the closest enemy or player
slim coral
It will jump to ally
royal copper
These dots sahould be up all the time, correct?
royal copper
Besides Roar - yeah!
compact knot
only dot that is up almost all the time is gushing wound, but that is just if your bloodthirst crits
idk what uptime on gushing wound actually is, but its determined by BT crits
royal copper
In that case - i should ONLY thhrow Thunderclap once highlighted?
or buffed - or whatever you call it.
compact knot
if i get dispelled but am not under boss, does it jump or not?
if you are the brown circle with the dispell and are closer to your green circle and get dispelled, it jumps to the green circle.
if you are the brown circle with the dispell and move under the boss and get dispelled, it jumps to the boss
if it jumps to you, that means that you where either under the boss with them, or they where on top of you.
safe cradle
Did wcl take out add dmg on blood and rash too?
compact knot
they added it back to rashanan, bloodbound horror counts though
rashanan and ovinax are removed from all stars though so nobody cares about those bosses really
royal copper
Is Slayver easyier than Mountain?
compact knot
both are about the same to play, id say slayer is slightly harder cause it makes you use execute, which execute is such a weak button you dont even push it as mountain thane
safe cradle
I was just wondering how I went from doing well to nothing
compact knot
I was just wondering how I went from doing well to nothing
i felt the same start of the raid, was doing like 200k less than i did first week, even after getting better gear
sullen dove
In that case - i should ONLY thhrow Thunderclap once highlighted?
If clap turned into thunderblast then yea itās much higher priority, otherwise you just hit it to refresh whirlwind stacks (every 5th global) or if you just have none of rampage/rb/bt to hit
safe cradle
Weird that they took it out from wcl I mean itās padding but still part of the fight
Adds donāt die boss doesnāt die
junior gale
fury warriors fault
safe cradle
And all we can do is pad
sullen dove
it is strange how inconsistent they are
junior gale
all the other classes cried and complained
sullen dove
Like it does make sense itās unfair for classes who are much slower to pad have way less of a shot to aoe and get a decent parse
safe cradle
Ya
sullen dove
But like adding adds on rash when they werenāt on before is the direct opposite of that
at least stay consistent
Rash adds are worse Iād say
Literally last 3 seconds
safe cradle
Like it does make sense itās unfair for classes who are much slower to pad have ...
But likeā¦ your also compared to like specs not fury warrior
gleaming siren
Like it does make sense itās unfair for classes who are much slower to pad have ...
The reason Ovinax is not in is because guilds have parasites up for minutes at a time
junior gale
they took off Rash then added back then took off ulgrax
sullen dove
At least ulg is a whole phase
gleaming siren
not because of add pad
sullen dove
Well yea thatās not included in allstars
Cuz can very easily cheese that
But other fights are same amount of adds at all times even tho rash isnāt all stars either dk t think
safe cradle
The reason Ovinax is not in is because guilds have parasites up for minutes at a...
Okay I see that, bc ppl can just create endless amounts as long as they can stay alive
royal copper
If clap turned into thunderblast then yea itās much higher priority, otherwise y...
Gives me 1,7k - Thats it! cant get it higher.. (5 dummies) - Im pretty sure im missing something here!
sullen dove
But likeā¦ your also compared to like specs not fury warrior
Yea but Iām sayin if youāre a warlock or something in a raid without a fury and you have a chance to do dmg on adds your parse will be huge
And all other locks with a fury or some other padder in the raid will never get a parse that high
Is semi decent reasoning on ulgrax but just is not consistent with letting rash adds through
safe cradle
Yea but Iām sayin if youāre a warlock or something in a raid without a fury and ...
Ah ya
covert blaze
And all other locks with a fury or some other padder in the raid will never get ...
been saying this
compact knot
The reason Ovinax is not in is because guilds have parasites up for minutes at a...
the other warrior in my guild had rank 1 heroic ovinax for like 2 weeks i think because 50% of his damage was parasites
gleaming siren
Tbf I hevily disagree withe the principle of the Ulgrax thing
azure holly
how can I get out of roots? does charge do that? what am I missing?
besides avatar
gleaming siren
how can I get out of roots? does charge do that? what am I missing?
besides avat...
Charge, if Ansurek Spell Reflect
azure holly
Charge, if Ansurek Spell Reflect
charge always works?
where can I read that interaction
compact knot
charge should always work on ansurek
gleaming siren
It's in the slayer tree
azure holly
aha it's slayer thing
covert blaze
charge always works?
if you have it talented on your hero talent yeah
junior gale
WCL just needs to keep it simple and just remove all star points off any problem boss and thats it
covert blaze
if you have it talented on your hero talent yeah
it also has a cd
azure holly
it also has a cd
noticed
compact knot
i mean i prefer what they did to ulgrax, since it makes parsing on that boss stupid easy, just go st and only use cds on boss.
best choice would have just been to remove it from all stars and keep it the same way. you guys might not remember, but all the ulgrax parses where enh shamans popping cds during the add spawns and solo killing them, was super degenerate
solo killing as in, everybody else was not hitting the adds and just afked
covert blaze
how can I get out of roots? does charge do that? what am I missing?
besides avat...
charge with the slayer talent, avatar, OF (avatar through TT, works only if you dont have natty avatar running), BS
whole yacht
how can I get out of roots? does charge do that? what am I missing?
besides avat...
Which roots?
Some are spell reflect able
compact knot
lotta webs in this raid
whole yacht
Well yeah. Spooder themed
compact knot
ansurek you can spell reflect them all, ulgrax you can bladestorm them, ovinax you can leap away and charge.
technically court and rashanan have them too, but those are different.
whole yacht
We don't talk about those
inner shadow
unreal onyx
soontm
inner shadow
Nah
flat river
omg
we killed nexus princess on reclear and i got the kill
but i was restarting my game before we started the fight
and i told the leader
he said ok
they started without me and my parse didnt go through
;-;
whole yacht
imagine parsing on ST fights as fury
dense elbow
If you are parsing, every fight is a ST fight, if you ask the guys at WarcraftLogs 
proud portal
Damn we got buffed a miracle
flat river
If you are parsing, every fight is a ST fight, if you ask the guys at WarcraftLo...
yeah thing is even if the parse counted
it would be bad
boss was 90% when i reconnected
XD
flat river
how i lived no idea
dense elbow
Healers were Heroes
whole yacht
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9oKhcfXIAA_rBb.jpg
dont get too excited
junior gale
Dont worry John blizzard already told me those fury buffs are being reverted next week
flat river
Healers were Heroes
Real and true
Now need court
And ill be 8/8
Though no kveza parse ;-;
whole yacht
Dont worry John blizzard already told me those fury buffs are being reverted nex...
ill steal your motherboard
dense elbow
I personally hope they revert the RB and BT buffs, and instead buff Roar/spear/OF/Blast/bladestorm, so on
Execute 50% can and should stay
whole yacht
im down for a BS buff
flat river
I personally hope they revert the RB and BT buffs, and instead buff Roar/spear/O...
real
atleast RB ones
whole yacht
no
sour tundra
fury saved?
odd cipher
i just now checked updates channel, is it separate buff to rampage and others spells from before?
inner shadow
3rd "last pull"
whole yacht
i just now checked updates channel, is it separate buff to rampage and others sp...
yes
dense elbow
fury saved?
Depends, if it remains like this. Then we can keep up with ppl in m+. Raid we might be too strong, I have no idea and don't care.
The damage breakdown is bad tho, on the PTR, if you dislike all the power being basically only in the rotationals.
odd cipher
3rd "last pull"
gz!
inner shadow
NOT BAD IG
dense elbow
3rd "last pull"
Gz, spider next! 
whole yacht
wtf, some spells getting buffed by 20% twice is wild
but deserved. weve been bullied all season
whole yacht
skill issue
dense elbow
99-100 is a lot more than you, it is the whole fight and good RNG
whole yacht
just kill it faster
gilded pawn
^
compact knot
i got a 97 on my mage and the boss lasted 8 minutes and 10 seconds
its just rng sometimes
inner shadow
well, you didnt get a 99, so you messed up more than that 1 thing
can u review log w me ot understand xd
compact knot
ill do it
inner shadow
omg guild stopped raiding, no queen BRUH
whole yacht
rip
whole yacht
can u review log w me ot understand xd
im retired for the season
compact knot
omg guild stopped raiding, no queen BRUH
idk if u get it anyways
dense elbow
omg guild stopped raiding, no queen BRUH
Extend the save, sell it or get boosted with it
inner shadow
I'll join some other guild ig
compact knot
boss is probably like a 200-300 pull boss for people just getting to her now
dense elbow
Spider? More like 50.
whole yacht
shiiit
eternal canopy
is it?
whole yacht
lemme get on the team killing it first time in 50
eternal canopy
was like 240 for us
winter shoal
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9oKhcfXIAA_rBb.jpg
Did bro just reply to his own message HOLY
dense elbow
It is easier than court, so I have been told, and apparently it just gets deleted once P1 dance and P2 movement is dowb
whole yacht
that depends on the group
winter shoal
nah boss is 100% a 400 pull boss
We're at almost 250 and we've gotten to p2 platform 2 like 4 times
whole yacht
some groups shit on court, and struggle on queen
winter shoal
Court was 262 for us
whole yacht
and some struggle on court and kill queen in 150 pulls
whole yacht
We're at almost 250 and we've gotten to p2 platform 2 like 4 times
got like 60 pulls left
dense elbow
Hm, maybe I got too much faith in the playerbase
whole yacht
you for sure do
winter shoal
got like 60 pulls left
We hard regressed last raid night tho
whole yacht
people are bad
winter shoal
got like 60 pulls left
whole yacht
We hard regressed last raid night tho
it happens. just means people werent on their game
proud portal
people are bad
Reminds me time when I basically entered stonevault 8+ and the group immeditality wipes in 30 seconds and getting 15 deaths in 2 mins
š
winter shoal
Reminds me time when I basically entered stonevault 8+ and the group immeditalit...
I had this in a NW and we still +2d it
on a 10 I think
whole yacht
Reminds me time when I basically entered stonevault 8+ and the group immeditalit...
been there, i just kinda stared at the screen watching them die over and over
dense elbow
I'll join some other guild ig
Just make sure you keep the save, and sell it at least. Ez gold
proud portal
I had this in a NW and we still +2d it
This was 30 seconds In the dungeon because they couldn't just...kick
or aoe stun the mobs that mass fear
š
proud portal
Let's not to mention the DH tank that was mass pulling entire hallway
compact knot
stonevault is a good key, the first hallway tells you if you time the key, or if you brick it fully
so
inner shadow
Just make sure you keep the save, and sell it at least. Ez gold
to who tho?
proud portal
I gotten my SV ++ in another group next one so lol
proud portal
stonevault is a good key, the first hallway tells you if you time the key, or if...
Yeeep
whole yacht
to who tho?
advertise mythic queen lockout
compact knot
if my tank DOESNT pull the whole hallway in a 10 or lower. im tilted
ive had tanks say they are doing big pull, then they only pull the first 2 packs and its like 6 mobs total
whole yacht
someone will buy
whole yacht
ive had tanks say they are doing big pull, then they only pull the first 2 packs...
thats hilarious
compact knot
and we lust that pull
whole yacht
thats less funny
dense elbow
to who tho?
If you got no contacts, you can enter most community discords that sell such services and go into their market section
inner shadow
how much gold u get out of it?
whole yacht
several million if you find the right crowd
inner shadow
Really? wtf
inner shadow
per week? DAMN
dense elbow
I usually sell them for around a mill. It is a one time sell.
You are selling the raid ID
whole yacht
yeah cuz they carry 5 people for like 5m each
so 1-2m for buying the lockout is nothing
dense elbow
Keep in mind, the big purchase is usually the "if we had the save, we could do it" guilds
Extend the save, after it is sold, when that guild disbands sell the save again
inner shadow
I usually sell them for around a mill. It is a one time sell.
You are selling th...
one time a week or?
languid radish
With these recent buffs, will fury be viable raid?
inner shadow
oh mb
whole yacht
With these recent buffs, will fury be viable raid?
as it stands right now, fury is looking good.
whole yacht
With these recent buffs, will fury be viable raid?
also, that anime was wild
inner shadow
You are selling the ID
im r8ded
inner shadow
Keep in mind, the big purchase is usually the "if we had the save, we could do i...
im not sure i understand
can i keep extending the lock every week or not ?
dense elbow
Yep, you can
whole yacht
can i keep extending the lock every week or not ?
yeah, its your lockout
inner shadow
then what do u mean by one time a life time
inner shadow
oh ye ye
whole yacht
youll have to find a new group willing to buy it every time. cuz the one from last week, will never need to again.
dense elbow
No, once the spider is dead on that ID, it is gone. Untill then, you can extend it infinitely.
But don't be someone who sells to multiple ppl. That gives you a mark on the back, from all you fucked over
And ppl do be petty
whole yacht
this is why i changed to "every time" instead of every week
dense elbow
dense elbow
Once anyone kill the spider, it is dead for anyone using that ID string
dense elbow
Nop, it aint
inner shadow
cuz i got reported once for scamming 200k gold (electricity went out) and bro reported me
i promise u i got banned 3 days for scam
dense elbow
But you better use proxy and burners
whole yacht
youre upholding your end of the trade though
you didnt promise a kill
you promised a lockout
so its not bannable. its just a dick move
inner shadow
whole yacht
its not a scam though
inner shadow
whole yacht
you are promising a lockout, and delivering said lockout
inner shadow
no i was just saying, if they report idk
even then i need to prove trust to them huh..
they need to trujst me, and me as a random trying to sell
dense elbow
Not a scam, per se, if you gave them the save.
After that it ain't in your courtyard
inner shadow
how do u get them to trust you
whole yacht
you dont really have to do much to get someone to buy from you.
dense elbow
They usually do, they just check if you are on a burner or not
inner shadow
im gonna try nova community ig
btw u said to use proxy and burners, what is even that
dense elbow
I usually also share my bnet, so they can contact me the 1st raidnight of theirs. In case they got trouble activating the ID.
Usually gives a tip
Accounts and characters for the sole purpose to scam
No connection to your main
whole yacht
there was this one guy, that was level 20. trying to sell me something one time, refused to give bnet, was sketchy af, wanted payment immediately "before i will look for group".
dont be that guy
and youll be fine
dense elbow
It is those happy little "invite" from randoms raiders can get just as their raid starts up
I just hope Zen got the greenlight to do this tho. And we didn't cost a guild their save
whole yacht
not my problem. i didnt do anything
if he sells it, hes a big boi, its his own decision
dense elbow
inner shadow
I just hope Zen got the greenlight to do this tho. And we didn't cost a guild th...
wdym ?
unreal kelp
inner shadow
we wont raid, they said it
whole yacht
i swear this is like, the 4th time ive seen you needing a new guild for various reasons
this season
dense elbow
I won't say anything, in BFA I swapped 6 times just for Azhara
Some bosses just break guilds and raid teams
dense elbow
Fair, tho the "needed time to myself" had me giggle in how dramatic it sounded
whole yacht
training to take over as owner of a company
never even been manager somewhere.
so a lot of stress
dense elbow
"It isn't you team, it is me"
"Who is it? Echo?"
"They care about me!"
royal copper
Hekili shows me this.. cant find it anywhere in spell book.. do i need 5 stacks of something?
dense elbow
I honestly don't know what it refers to, at least not at first glance.
Countdown for you to not use BB, to allow unhinged to consume it, maybe? š¤
whole yacht
"It isn't you team, it is me"
"Who is it? Echo?"
"They care about me!"
they treat me like the queen i am
royal copper
Countdown for you to not use BB, to allow unhinged to consume it, maybe? š¤
I shouldnt use BB - but onnly first at 4th hit?
inner shadow
@dense elbow what discord u sold on?
dense elbow
Unhinged casts BTs during ravager, that consumes BB stacks - so you don't have to press BB only CB during it
royal copper
Okay - Warrior is pretty straight simple! Pressing 3 bottoms' (BB, RB and Rampage) and use Thunderclap as the 5 (whirlwindy thing)
- Correct? there isnt anything else i should look out for, or beaware off?
im really tryin to understand the pipeline here..
smoky vale
um i think a wowhead guide might have more concrete answers
royal copper
Wowhead complicate things way off..
sour frigate
Not really..
royal copper
How much dps can you hold on 5 dummies? 1 min straight?
dense elbow
About 5-10% under my Sims
earnest canyon
Okay - Warrior is pretty straight simple! Pressing 3 bottoms' (BB, RB and Ramp...
Pressing 3 bottoms made me laugh thank you.
smoky vale
how does wowhead complicate things
sour frigate
Pressing 3 bottoms made me laugh thank you.
but hes right...
royal copper
Pressing 3 bottoms made me laugh thank you.
Please tell me what iam missing here?
earnest canyon
but hes right...
Didn't say he wasn't, but hitting 3 giant asses made me chuckle
earnest canyon
Please tell me what iam missing here?
The joke I guess
royal copper
AOE my spec! - i use this... and can only do 1.7 too 2.5m dps.
dense elbow
Okay - Warrior is pretty straight simple! Pressing 3 bottoms' (BB, RB and Ramp...
You should look up the priority rotational list in the guide.
It was just linked
Just follow that and you will be fine
sour frigate
AOE my spec! - i use this... and can only do 1.7 too 2.5m dps.
isnt it ok for 5 targets?
royal copper
isnt it ok for 5 targets?
When a paladin and shamans easy stand 5m?
dense elbow
Well, only way to know, is to sim yourself for the tested scenario to compare
...
Warrior is kinda bad on live
It is what it is
royal copper
Yeah.. im tryin the SimC now.
heavy dock
i was joking a few days ago that a 50% execte buff would make the button pressable
seems someone at blizz thought the same lol
smoky vale
@dense elbow :3
royal copper
Does this look correct? 30 sec'ish
smoky vale
nerf of
sour frigate
When a paladin and shamans easy stand 5m?
welcome to woyer life ig?
i dont think shaman sustains 5kk for 1 min on dummies
royal copper
welcome to woyer life ig?
Its sad i really like the class š¦
dense elbow
<@237283524040851459> :3
@smoky vale :3
dense elbow
i dont think shaman sustains 5kk for 1 min on dummies
Depends if they got the 30m DPS RNG procs or not
dense elbow
My mate had 15m DPS on a pack in the maze, at 610 ilvl
smoky vale
yarp
dense elbow
I died on the inside
sour frigate
š¤·āāļø
smoky vale
might have been without cds as well
dense elbow
It was just random, he laughed, I asked what - he didn't know what was going on, just tons of dam
meanwhile my 640 warrior struggle to do 12m burst without god RNG of reap during storm
dense elbow
True, true
royal copper
Next quickie question:
Whats the stats cap for Haste, Mastery?
smoky vale
not a thing
royal copper
oh.. okay?
modest condor
you guys have secondaries?
smoky vale
you have a str weapon?
whole yacht
I prefer to play naked
summer crater
22.7 haste 51.3 mastery
dense elbow
DepressedTomStat.gif
sour frigate
Bis
sour frigate
you have a str weapon?
Int daggers
dense elbow
š”ļø 
š”ļø
inner shadow
time to join another guild for CE n f off from mythic raiding for good 
sour frigate
Damn i crafted an int dagger on my rogue told it to my friend she laughed and proceeded to craft an agi dagger on shaman
inner shadow
:))
wary fjord
dense elbow
That hurts my soul
inner shadow
:)))
feral ivy
what do yall do to cool down yalls computer room? like it gets HOT in my room because of my tower and i throw on the a/c but that cost a lot
and its hot outside so its just crap
dense elbow
I open a window to the -20c, and it sorts any immediate issue
inner shadow
xD
sour frigate
78c cpu 70c gpu
Back in the day i had gtx 970 it had ~90 working temp
royal copper
Do abilities hurt more with more rage?
sour frigate
No
inner shadow
Do abilities hurt more with more rage?
wdym
dense elbow
Only if you play arms or prot, and use execute
sour frigate
Only arms execute scales up to 40 rage
inner shadow
ion even know that damn
dense elbow
Imagine if abilities did more with rage, so we just sat there at rage cap when enraged, spamming RB and BT
It would be like having perma PTR RA playstyle
sour frigate
Gold
clever path
that would be so ass lol
dense elbow
^
sour frigate
That would be interesting gameplay with some rage management acshully
Oh wait ww monk exists
clever path
it would suck so bad and be horribly counter intuitive to what fury has been since forever
i mean fury does need changes
just hopefully not that one kek
royal copper
Theyre useless for m+ š¦
dense elbow
Who or what are?
clever path
???? fury has had rampage since legion? and holding rage would be counter to the build up and spend gameplay
clever path
that would play so badly. "you need to rampage to enrage but you also need to hold rampage to do more damage." would make fights so annoying having to stare at enrage buff to wait till its 1 sec
imo at least
inner shadow
can sm1 help me read my log? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PG41DkT6g2NWJfHx
idk if im doing it right
dense elbow
clever path
yeah but its less holding and more "using all your resources" it requires no thought as is. its natural.
royal copper
U hold rp now too
Whats that? - You use rampage first before RB and BB ?
sour frigate
Ofc
smoky vale
me when the answer was in the wowhead guide
sour frigate
royal copper
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
With that said; Its in the range of the Whilwinndy thing riight? in between 5 hits.
royal copper
Thunder clap -> Rampage -> RBx2 -> BB
royal copper
5th will be ww/tblast again
You play slayer, right?
sour frigate
I play colossus but it doesn't change common stuff
royal copper
5th will be ww/tblast again
BINGO! that was it!!! you found my issue with 5 words instead of throwing me into wowhead and read a bible. ā¤ļø
sour frigate
Its simple
1 Press ww to start cleaving
2 Enraged=no then press rampage to enrage
3 Have crushing blow and bloodbath then spend it before using rampage again if u enraged (which u drop rarely in m+)
inner shadow
why is log reading so fuckin difficult
sour frigate
Should be natural and intuitive
clever path
yeah fury is just a big merry go round lol
sour frigate
No procs and stuff there
smoky vale
i mean its just lack of reading talents or why you press something
royal copper
Its simple
1 Press ww to start cleaving
2 Enraged=no then press rampage to enr...
Isn't thunderclap fine to start with?
sour frigate
Isn't thunderclap fine to start with?
Thunderclap is of u play thane
royal copper
Thunderclap is of u play thane
i do š
sour frigate
So yes
royal copper
thank you!
sour frigate
Then spend thunder blast when it procs
smoky vale
sour frigate
It procs from bt and pressing avatar
royal copper
Thunder clap -> Rampage -> RBx2 -> BB (Procs after a BB, mostly) ** proced Thunderclap** and repeat..
smoky vale
AOE my spec! - i use this... and can only do 1.7 too 2.5m dps.
its just this
inner shadow
the top 1 in fury on silken is 2.4m damn i'm rly not that far off. fuck
royal copper
its just this
i do 3m stable now after 2 minutes 5 dummies..
slim coral
Thunder clap -> Rampage -> RBx2 -> BB
You donāt use raging blow twice
royal copper
You donāt use raging blow twice
Just once? if that the case im missing on a whirlwind?
inner shadow
Reck + Ava + Thunderblast > Roar > Ravager > Rampage > Thunderblast > Odyn's > Crushing blow > Ramp > Crushing Blow
Unhinged consumes the bloodbath procs
make a reck/ava/thunderblast macro to use 1st charge of thunderblast
slim coral
Just once? if that the case im missing on a whirlwind?
No you arenāt missing on a whirlwind
You rampage crushing blow then bloodbath
inner shadow
Just once? if that the case im missing on a whirlwind?
replace whirlwind with thunderblast/thunder clap. that's your new whirlwind
slim coral
Repeat
royal copper
4th whirlwind - i should use thunderclap?
inner shadow
this is a noob friendly rotation, thunderblast/clap- rampage, 2 rb- bloodbath, thunderclap again
inner shadow
4th whirlwind - i should use thunderclap?
you use thunderclap when u run out of stacks
slim coral
4th whirlwind - i should use thunderclap?
Press rampage
inner shadow
so now rampage, then thunder clap
inner shadow
it's simple if you implement it this way
Reck + Ava + Thunderblast > Roar > Ravager > Rampage > Thunderblast > Odyn's > Crushing blow > Ramp > Crushing Blow
Unhinged consumes the bloodbath procs
is your opener
then you keep doing thunderblast/thunderclap - rampage - crushing blow-raging blow- bloodbath, thunderblast/clap again
inner shadow
BT
can i ask u a thing, can i link a log and u just add the transmitter to the timeline so i can fully see it, cuz idk how to add the transmitter into the other damage spells
slim coral
can i ask u a thing, can i link a log and u just add the transmitter to the time...
I donāt understand what this means, add the transmitter?
inner shadow
i wanna be able to see when i used transmitter too
and maybe make them in one straight line? idk if that's possible
oblique trail
Well you're looking at the wrong table first of all
You're looking at the damage done tab, not casts
inner shadow
oh ok thanks i never used the wowlogs
can i make them into one line ?
they're dispersed like this so annoying to read..
smoky vale
nope
inner shadow
is there an easier way to read it ? xd
smoky vale
but thats worse
inner shadow
š
smoky vale
me when 5 targets dont live for 1 minute straight
inner shadow
is our cap at 5? or 4
oblique trail
5
inner shadow
it's 1 target + additional 4 yeah?
ye
fuck man i should've recorded the fight 
i got no clue the fuck did i do wrong and brain not braining
is there a way to see what your dps was throughout the fight ?
smoky vale
yeah in the log
inner shadow
which section?
oblique trail
Highlight the graph to whatever section you want
Or press the phases tab at the top if you want it to precisely tell you how much you did during a certain phase
oblique trail
Well it's a bit vague what they mean when they ask throughout the fight
winter shoal
can i make them into one line ?
wowanalyzer does that in the timeline view
winter shoal
no
smoky vale
š¦
inner shadow
what the fuck how the hell did i miss out on a whole million on that phase HUH
clever belfry
skill issue
clever belfry
if u equip eyes u can see cds were played differently + u lost a bit amount of uptime too
@ballnezi its bed time
:3
inner shadow
if u equip eyes u can see cds were played differently + u lost a bit amount of u...
there's a reason why i said i got no clue tf am i looking at xd
oblique trail
@ballnezi its bed time
nyo anballsa I'm busy doing puzzles!
clever belfry
"puzzles"
inner shadow
Wildly different killtimer and they push p2
wdym they push p2?
clever belfry
toddler difficulty?
oblique trail
Intermission 2 even
brittle snow
Human or nelf war?
clever belfry
Human or nelf war?
dragon
inner shadow
i was looking at xedis' log
summer quail
Human or nelf war?
dwarf
oblique trail
Just go visage
storm rune
Was that the pull someone fatfingered lust in p2?
warm crag
Human or nelf war?
whatever you want
brittle snow
yea but i wanna actually see my character on the login screen lol
sour frigate
million horns
clever belfry
whatever you want
hmm no u!
inner shadow
this is a more realistic comparison
inner shadow
Wildly different killtimer and they push p2
what does pushing p2 mean/xd
oblique trail
I already corrected it to intermission 2
inner shadow
oh didnt see
i slacked on p3 ig
-450k p3
-60 k p2 intermission
-250k p2
-100k p1 intermission
i wonder how
oblique trail
Different/bad CD usage in P3
You have nearly identical kill timer, but they get an entire other CD set out when you don't
smoky vale
pressing earlier?
oblique trail
As for the rest can be RNG/played worse/did less damage on adds
oblique trail
when do they even get it out
Maybe during the funny spike in their damage at 5:40
inner shadow
oh wait it's cuz i popped cds before spike
i remember now
that's what it's not into that phase
oblique trail
They use it right after intermission because it means you cleave 2 targets
inner shadow
the cds come back right as takajz fucks off and crab boy goes into middle