fury

[south kayak]

if u know

[summer quail]

RA thane

[earnest canyon]

yeah it says it empowers 2 abilities, but not that they become crushing blow or bloodbath....so as a warrior newbie i was confused

[south kayak]

oh okay

Idk if Dan is performing better

[south kayak]

Yeah that's going to be included in new tier, thank fully

[summer quail]

idk either, i looked away for a bit

[earnest canyon]

Ok cool....usually its me being stupid, but it literally didnt say it, so thanks

[south kayak]

Check picture above

[earnest canyon]

yeah got it, thanks

[south kayak]

np

[fading sky]

i vastly prefer this way

to make it a proper CD

for raid is awesome

[earnest canyon]

wdym? Its the same, just one explains it more

[fading sky]

doesnt seem to require Ramp to give new bbs and cbs?

or am i wrong ?

[outer rover]

on ptr as long as recklessness is active you get crushing blow and bloodbath

[earnest canyon]

the tooltip doesnt have all the info

[undone flower]

The topic was one says these abilities are empowered and the other one says what it really do

[fading sky]

i simply meant the PTR version vs

now

[outer rover]

on live after casting rampage you get one bloodbath and one crushing blow

[undone flower]

He was confused about the tooltip

[south kayak]

Can you send me this talent build 🙏

[radiant plank]

CgEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAjGzYGbmZYGDMLMzMjZMPwwMbbjxMzshZmZmZMzYZYgZGAAAIGbLDsAmgZYCMYD

[south kayak]

How do you do this opener

[golden hare]

what is your rotation

[earnest canyon]

what did you have for lunch

[junior gale]

One at a time boys there's enough Walhe for everyone

[molten wing]

lee good old fury opener

[radiant plank]

350g Ground beef 95%lean and 3 whole eggs + 200g cottage cheese

[radiant plank]

Little bit of this and that

[chrome plover]

lunch already

[outer rover]

bro eating like a warrior

[radiant plank]

its 13

wym already

[chrome plover]

it's 10:59

[radiant plank]

ok brit

[south kayak]

MORNING

[chrome plover]

🇬🇧

[chrome plover]

gm

[tardy lark]

morning at 12

(11 for psychos)

[flat river]

50% EXECUTE BUFF

FTW

[earnest canyon]

sounds nice!

[jolly marten]

morning.. what are these unannounced fury buffs? im confused

[tardy lark]

they are (skyhold) announced unannounced fury buffs

[jolly marten]

like extra from the lasts patch buffs?

[tardy lark]

yes

[slim coral]

Tell me what the prio is during reck please

[golden hare]

thank you 🤖

[radiant plank]

[south kayak]

I need BT to do damage again

[slim coral]

Is this pure ST?

Or aoe

[radiant plank]

idk

[slim coral]

Also bladestorm before spear

[molten wing]

beautiful

[slim coral]

Massive W

i hate bladestorming in spear

Or during it

[molten wing]

just remove spear

[slim coral]

We’ve been trying for years

[stiff barn]

Give us the night fea ability instead or just have us use roar

[fading sky]

i mean at least its gonna be LIT as slayer to press in st with marks 😄

[smoky vale]

help i slpet 4 hours

[fading sky]

Every1 of us wanted the NF ability

no1 wanted spear

[smoky vale]

watch me lay hs

[flat river]

its big

like

execute is a button now

[fading sky]

they took spear coz most played it

BUT

[golden hare]

stop lying

[fading sky]

spear was fun coz of micha guy

[flat river]

i can finnally ask for PI in execute phase and guild wont laugh at me

XD

[radiant plank]

no

[fading sky]

for real no

no1 wanted spear vs Ancient aftershock

[golden hare]

pants on fire

[flat river]

real

[molten wing]

im pretty sure everyone wanted Banner

[flat river]

ngl i want banner too

[stiff barn]

Anything but spear

[fading sky]

i mean banner had so many issues so no thx

[flat river]

hopefully the execute buff wasn't a mistake

added an extra 0 by accident

hopefully 🙏

[surreal token]

bro have you seen execute in its current state?

that shit is ASS

[flat river]

yes but blizzard doesnt like fun

so thats why im 🙏

[surreal token]

How did we go from Execute.exe

to this

[flat river]

u mean E X E C U T E

[surreal token]

fr

how did we go from super saiyan ascending

to it being a literal joke spell

When did blizz decide to turn fury's execute phase into a fucking joke

[fathom wolf]

Wearable skull banner from mop

[molten wing]

people complained about the E X E C U T E because it really did feel shit the moment you got a mechanic and lost the stacks

[golden hare]

power shift 🤓 ☝️

[surreal token]

power shift my foot in the warrior dev's ass

[molten wing]

but honestly i think they should have keept it , having a niche like that was fun

[surreal token]

how about that

Let me put it into 5th gear real quick

[fathom wolf]

Waiting for new crit vid to see if we are just huffing on the buffs or go back to doomin.

[flat river]

question about these buffs btw, are these including the reverted buffs?

[surreal token]

what's crit going to tell you lol

besides, these are to bring us to some kind of baseline

for actual tuning during heroic week

for all you know, blizzard might tell fury to go eat a bag of dicks like last patch

[molten wing]

even despite everything fury was still decent last patch

so they will do their tunning , everything will be viable , some more than others

and move on

[surreal token]

tell that to arms warrior

[golden hare]

what does that mean?
the changes were reverted so back to "net 0", then these buffs came

[flat river]

hopefully they dont nerf execute 🙏

[flat river]

so like there was 20% buff to rampage raging blow and bloodthirst

but they were reverted

[golden hare]

yea

[flat river]

so is this buff

[surreal token]

Warrior is always going to be good during prog for survivability (fury) or execute (arms)

[flat river]

including the reverted buffs?

[golden hare]

what

[radiant plank]

The "reverted" buffs alrady got pushed last week gala

[flat river]

oh

[radiant plank]

These are on top of those

[flat river]

i did not see

thats big

hopefully they dont nerf fury this patch

[radiant plank]

[flat river]

like how they never nerfed ret

please blizz

i beg

[summer quail]

They did nerf ret tho. Was just small

[flat river]

they did also "nerf" frost dk

[fading sky]

Ret fuckign SLAPS

[flat river]

[fading sky]

doesnt sev classes have both better execute and survival ?

[summer quail]

Frost dk is noticeably nerfed

[smoky vale]

does rhe boss die tonight

hekp

[south kayak]

Everyone wants Fury to excel in 5T and now that it looks like it will, some people are calling for nerfs. Unbelievable, lol

[flat river]

remember the 8% frost nerf when the entire server went apeshit so they had to make the channel read only and stop anyone from joining the server for the day

[surreal token]

Yes, but you're always going to bring a warrior, so you might as well get your specific thing

[fading sky]

what i just saw em get good buff

[summer quail]

Best %

?

[smoky vale]

it was actually a buff

[surreal token]

Whether u decide to be a liver or an execute phase monster

[molten wing]

soonish

[flat river]

GAMBARE

[summer quail]

Yes ez kill

[sour frigate]

invite me in ill finish it

[flat river]

[surreal token]

It's not going to be an instant burst aoe monster anymore

so it won't necessarily excel in AoE

[smoky vale]

im watching our bedt %

[summer quail]

Yea on ptr they are buffed

[smoky vale]

to see if i could have done something bertter

[fading sky]

so meta somewhat still meta ^_^

coz they performed worse on last bosses in raid ?

[smoky vale]

i need to get my first ce

[molten wing]

i quit after starting council prog 2 months ago , not really enjoying this tier for some reason , maybe this new one might be better

[sour frigate]

Just extend rt to everyday

[summer quail]

On ptr they are definetely not meta. Too many insane specs

[smoky vale]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxB2xLmMKQ1JkqCDdV9-3YCWaPo3ohYh7M?si=eL_d8htWN4XhxagE

[molten wing]

that WA though

[flat river]

yooo i belive in u

if i got my first CE this season

[south kayak]

I think they should revert these buffs and redistribute them to other abilities like Reap/TB/TC

[flat river]

then u can too

[flat river]

u should not speak again

[smoky vale]

i cant even see the essence we died to

[south kayak]

It's too much when TB really needs help now

they buffed these abilities to the point others are just doing no damage

[fading sky]

but thats an easy buff later

❤️ faith

or we just play slayer

thats not rly a loss to me

[south kayak]

They'd need to nerf these buffs we just got though

to buff other abilities

[molten wing]

could be wrong since i haven't watched anything about the fight in months but this ?

[meager gyro]

If you’ve ever slept 12 hours and woke solely because it was time for you to poo 💩, it’s that same expediency that I arose upon reading fury unmentioned buffs.

[smoky vale]

idk how that ever gets left there

[dense fulcrum]

Hi im new, are talents up to date on wowhead?

[molten wing]

stupid fucking mistakes , but eh go again until its done

[molten wing]

yeah same for #dps-faq

[dense fulcrum]

thank you 🙂 also do u guys use any macro for reckless avatar etc?

[fading sky]

buff reap... that way Arms finally gets a STRAY BUFF from fury

[earnest canyon]

how do you play fury if you dont take rampage? because you cant enrage?

[junior gale]

Get enrage from pressing BT

[warm crag]

why are you not taking rampage

[earnest canyon]

i am, i was just looking at the tree

unlike a lot of other classes, I have brain fog on warrior and everything is "strike viciously" or whatever

i was getting bladestorm and ww mixed up for example

[tight hemlock]

Word on the street is fury got hidden buffs? is this true? 😮

[junior gale]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[tight hemlock]

❤️

[undone flower]

It happened once in my prog, so after it I stood next to every essences even tho I’m not assigned to do it

[lost bison]

im confused, are the changes from tonight additions/changes to the previous buffs or on top of them?

[radiant plank]

on top

[gleaming talon]

Fury up huge!

[mossy fox]

if this is true btw then i should still get bodied by greg tonight if he joins cryve's group

this is a good thing

[smoky vale]

hi critcake

[mossy fox]

hi gio

[smoky vale]

i want to kill queen

[lost bison]

sounds fake

[mossy fox]

keep trying king

[smoky vale]

2 back to back sub 10 into chain p1 wipes

[gleaming talon]

[radiant plank]

just incase have a video rendering and 6 twitch streams in background

[south kayak]

Is that our Greg

[earnest canyon]

these buffs look massive, i might swap main to warrior lol....its way more fun than hunter if I hide my dmg meter

[royal copper]

i dont get it.....

dps isnt great!

[radiant plank]

Buff fury!

[sour frigate]

looks like ure not spending bb and cb

[eager thorn]

fury buffs

[royal copper]

cb bb?

[devout totem]

crushing blow and bloddbath

[sour frigate]

crushing blow bloodbath

[royal copper]

Got ya -

[mossy fox]

no

[royal copper]

ill try again.

[mossy fox]

maybe I try slayer first

[radiant plank]

Make sure to be RA slayer so you dont do good boss damage on accident

[mossy fox]

okayge

if i still get gapped i can slowly increase in power via better build choices

professional xanbagging

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1270040420315037727.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[mossy fox]

i can also just make sure we only play high target count dungeons

[wet notch]

anyone have a ptr build i could use?

[smoky vale]

critcake can you play pants arms?

[mossy fox]

no

[radiant plank]

Good thing ToP didnt get any changes

so ppl dont want to go there

[mossy fox]

kultharok nerfs were kinda big

[wet notch]

anyone have a ptr m+ build I could test :)?

[radiant plank]

Can just accidentally proc a slarms test key whenever you zone to ToP

[fickle bluff]

no i would never play ptr m+ unless i had a gun to my head

[radiant plank]

Same as live bludski

stll no talent changes

[wet notch]

roger. tysm ❤️

[smoky vale]

is it possible to parse if you dont have the thunder gem

[summer crater]

I'm using 45 sec for cd reduction for TR

[mossy fox]

true slarms with blunt

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1270040420315037727.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[smoky vale]

what was legion arms like

[radiant plank]

🎦

[bleak bluff]

where is critcake's youtube live!!

[mossy fox]

5 hours from now

[smoky vale]

holy moly

[bleak bluff]

lol oh no!! so far away!

[smoky vale]

see you in 5 hours!

[bleak bluff]

i'll see your video tomorrow morning on my way to work

cheers!

[golden hare]

would be really cool if crit just lied on the internet for fun

[molten night]

anyone test the undocumented changes yet?

[undone flower]

would be cool if no one records fury performing until 1 week after the season

The big lie

[restive granite]

fury is so bad for dungeons unless you pull knowing you got a fury warrior
tried a 15 DB and we did the big pull before the church with the 2 living shadows

i literally didnt hit once the second one cause of target cap

not a single rampage cleave landed on it or any other skill

and we died

fucking burden of a class

[mossy fox]

wdym

id never lie or be sarcastic

norwegian ppl dont do sarcasm

[flat river]

@mossy fox what do u think of the 50% execute buff fury got

:O

[mossy fox]

execute still lower prio than rb for thane

[flat river]

but pumps for slayer

[mossy fox]

at least exe stonks are up for slayer

[flat river]

yessirrr

and PvP will be bussin

[mossy fox]

it was needed

[flat river]

execute was main prio in PvP for fury anyways

now we will crit for 2 million instead of 1.2

[radiant plank]

pvp players vs optimal dps rotation

they never expect the damage some specs do

if you press abilites in correct order instead of blindly slamming your KB

[flat river]

real and true

[gleaming siren]

el no sabe

[high echo]

tbh if thane doesnt execute at all

thats fine

[inner zinc]

Id rather they worry about T blast not blasting enough than execute not executing enough

[high echo]

slayer's execute shouldnt have done fuckall dmg either

[high echo]

ikr

[south kayak]

They should buff Reap, CSHB, Sidearm, TB etc and then do a spec aura nerf

[radiant plank]

They shuold do an aura nerf rn

[south kayak]

And then buff those abilities? We’re talking about the same thing lol

[radiant plank]

no

no buffs

[south kayak]

Well, TB really needs a buff

[high echo]

looks like slayer all day atm doesnt it

[south kayak]

They should revert those buffs or nerf them and redistribute across those other abilities

[south kayak]

Fury is excelling at 5 target cleave and suddenly that’s a bad thing?

Nah man

[oblique trail]

Stop buffing Reap/other procs

It's cringe and just makes Slayer into even more of a shit casino hero talent

[golden hare]

that's crazy.. hope someone can educate them soon

[chrome plover]

reap buffs

[oblique trail]

I don't mind RNG in my spec but adding even more damage to procs just makes the variance even worse

When it's already noticably bad in both AoE and ST

[south kayak]

Maybe not reap but definitely Thunder blast or clap

Because they’re pretty down in terms of priority now that they’ve buffed the other rotational abilities

[flat river]

u do know our abilities that got buffed cleave with meatcleaver right

[south kayak]

That doesn’t matter when you don’t wanna pretty TB on ST anymore unless you can press anything else

That’s a big issue

TB being number one prio is what it should be

[slim pollen]

Naah, we're fine ty

[south kayak]

The entire thane hero talent is just gone on st during cds or half the time due to these buffs

[high echo]

RA seems so counter intuitive for thane

[south kayak]

Thane is pretty behind slayer on ST on ptr; and bringing TB back to a high priority would go along way towards fixing that

[restive granite]

wish i could get carpal tunnel syndrome on my right wrist aswell from playing fury

[frank dawn]

Some of yall should go post on the forums talking about the damage breakdowns. Or other concerns with the spec for that matter lol

[restive granite]

i like it in here

its cozy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[tender seal]

Hello fury how do i do damage in mythic i have not played fury in raid for months i was thinking to try the furry specc tonight on reclear

[undone flower]

The best way would be a melee spec with lot of different buttons for main rotation and a lot of off gcds

[fading sky]

Press buttona

[restive granite]

the harder you press them the more damage they do

[restive granite]

meant to write right* xd

[fading sky]

Facts

Tbh cb>bb>ramp

Then u good

Use cds on cd

[undone flower]

I know someone who plays with the two hands on the keyboard and no mouse

[restive granite]

thats illegal

[fading sky]

I guess u could use arrows

For cam angle

And tab for target swaps

[undone flower]

He use The num pad

For the camera if I remember

[fading sky]

Tbh just give the man a controller

[undone flower]

I’ve met a lot of weird keyboard users for wow

Like one who plays with the keyboard vertical of him

And ofc a left handed dude

[restive granite]

my guildies play with their feet

99% sure they do

[fading sky]

Im left handed.

I dont play wow left handed though

[undone flower]

But I think you can picture how the guy was playing

[fading sky]

Im that old, where at school the mouse was placed on right side

Crossed his hands

[chrome relic]

Yo can anyone confirm those new PTR buffs are on top of the ones from last week? Or the same buffs with changes.

[fading sky]

Coz mouse cant be moved!

On toppa

[chrome relic]

W

[fading sky]

Still waiting for enhancement nerfs

[flat river]

i use Shift+E as my Execute button

im not weird though

[smoky vale]

wtf

[mossy fox]

press glowy buttons use cooldowns

[undone flower]

Shift E is OF for me and nothing if I don’t play OF, so I guess it will be empty/grey next season

[flat river]

if button glows it means it is ready to press

and will deal good dmg

[flat river]

Shift+Q is Odyns for me

and Spear if no Odyns

[undone flower]

You deal more dmg if you press 3 times a button before the gcd is over

[smoky vale]

of is 3

execute is f

[flat river]

u are weird

[smoky vale]

guess my ww bind

[fading sky]

Spear bis next season

[undone flower]

4 is execute

[flat river]

no

[fading sky]

We gonna smack 5 targets

[flat river]

EXECUTE IS SHIFT+E

[restive granite]

= is charge

[fading sky]

I habe faith

[restive granite]

execute is -

[flat river]

EVERYONE KNOWS THAT

[smoky vale]

what is my ww bind

[flat river]

idk 4?

[smoky vale]

2

[flat river]

remove yourself from this discord

[fading sky]

Z or 3

[undone flower]

ww is X

[smoky vale]

what is my raging blow

[flat river]

ww is always 4

[fading sky]

Ww= q

[undone flower]

No Q is rampage

[fading sky]

Ramp is 2

[flat river]

this is the most objectivly correct keybinding system

[gleaming siren]

bro did not cook

[radiant plank]

Great usage of qertfg

[undone flower]

You keybinded in the order of the spell book

[wild mica]

Battle shout not even bound smh

[undone flower]

Ww is E I forgot

[flat river]

check out this BS macro

[smoky vale]

how did you gues

what is my raging blow bind

[undone flower]

3

[smoky vale]

e

[flat river]

WW is always 4

[smoky vale]

what is my bt bind

[mossy fox]

if you made me use this macro i'd literally press that button 3 times after combat every time without fail

[undone flower]

It is not the third letter of alphabet for nothing

[mossy fox]

my battle shout after combat habit is very strong

[flat river]

XD

[smoky vale]

sounds like something you need to start implementing

[flat river]

i stopped using it

cause everytime i left a BG

i got a warning for communication

[smoky vale]

xd

xd

they didnt like that

[undone flower]

I don’t keybind battle shout, I just mouse click between each pack

[flat river]

i think thats every warrior

[wild mica]

cant forget the battle shout in combat when you cant be pressing another button

[flat river]

real

to assert dominance

use it before u use sudden death proc

[undone flower]

What makes battle shout do the weird roar

Sometime it surprises me bc I’m a gnome and it’s not always that sound

[mossy fox]

this too

wdym weird roar

i guess it's always a weird roar if you play gnome

[wild mica]

are you roaring irl

[flat river]

ofc i am

[undone flower]

1 m70 is NORMaL SIZE

If I knew how to record I would try to

[restive granite]

honestly idk what theyre feeding kids these days

in highschool i was the tallest being 183cm

[frigid zealot]

their getting shorter, humanity is regressing in high

[undone flower]

I returned to college (I’m 26) I’m the smolest dude with 1m73

[frigid zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hobbit-hole-bilbo-baggins-the-hobbit-get-inside-martin-freeman-gif-16793383

smaller people. smaller houses, more room for houses

[restive granite]

what do you mean, all my lil brother friends are about 2m tall

and hes above 2m atm at 17 yo

[undone flower]

That’s not a brother that’s a troll

[frigid zealot]

david vs goliath

[undone flower]

Since I’m the smallest of friend group, we agreed I will be the femboy at 50 if one needs it

[smoky vale]

[restive granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[undone flower]

I will be the one laughing in 20 years when you message me on discord during Shadowlands Season of discovery

[restive granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183631577893314631/1285371625423765618/gun-to-head-nodding.gif

honestly, if you remove chains of domination patch and the maw and conduict energy and the 3 week grind to change covenants and the mandatory torghast and the entire jailer storyline and the legendary crafting system they had

basically last patch of shadowlands

it wasnt that bad

[high echo]

You don't?

[lilac plinth]

are we getting new buff ?

[dense fulcrum]

do u guys use any macro for reckless avatar etc?

[restive granite]

most of the time yeah, unless im playing AM which then i dont

[dense fulcrum]

can u send me the macro? its been 6 years i dont play, i dont remember a lot

[rotund ginkgo]

:3

[hardy remnant]

plz keep the buff secret plz

[reef rover]

#showtooltip [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar; Avatar
/use 13
/use 14
/cast Avatar
/cast Recklessness
/cast [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

can use this, can drop use 13 or 14 if u want
https://wago.io/macros/classes/warrior this page shows u some macros

[coarse nest]

#showtooltip
/cast recklessness
/cast avatar
/use 13
/use 14

I would keep roar separate personally

[restive granite]

you wanna avatar after reck for the extra duration if youre not playing OF right?

[coarse nest]

That used to be true

It doesn’t matter now iirc

Also having the trinket in there assumes you have a 1:30cd trinket

If you don’t I would remove those as well

[high echo]

Bummer TT gets removed next patch

This macro was crazy this season

[torpid elbow]

Got a quick question about blood bath I understand it ticks every 1s now next update it will tick every 3s and it says a 66% nerf is this a bad thing ?

[coarse nest]

It means your upfront damage will be higher and your dot damage will be lower

IMO this is a good thing

[high echo]

Eh, probably not too big of a deal

[tender seal]

I will try

[torpid elbow]

Well that’s excellent news to here

[high echo]

In the ptr the dot lasted forever and did a lot of dmg, and fury isn't really a DoT class

[torpid elbow]

Yes in my opinion we got us a good buffs I just hope like it said nothing gets reverted and stays just that

[humble plover]

10, 15, and 3

[torpid elbow]

Been trying MT and it’s fun in mythic + now I’m looking for A slayer build can anyone point in a direction of mass air

Aoe*

[high echo]

Look through the wowhead/icy veins article, there are easy to copy builds there

In essence they are not too different outside of ravager/bladestorm

[torpid elbow]

I like bs with sr and ravager with thane

[tender seal]

@mossy fox sir howcome you use dusk/dawnthread lining in raid ? Is it really better than asc. even on 4+ min fights ? I have been hesitant to do it because according to my sims i need 90%+ for it to be worth, and even with 90%+ its basically within margin error.

Also if my healers want to parse my uptime goes

[mossy fox]

Nah I just don't bother with swapping that's all

asc should still be better on long fights

[tender seal]

Oh

Ty

[mossy fox]

the diff is so small anyway

i still got some nice logs with threads

[nocturne dragon]

stream today crit?

[mossy fox]

i think it was last week i got r1 court and thats a long fight

[mossy fox]

what days do i not stream

yeah stream in about 2 hours

[lapis shadow]

Do u actually need anything but "1" "2" "3" and "4" keybind for warrior lets be real here

:tf:

[coarse nest]

If you don’t want to use cooldowns sure

[oblique trail]

My best logs since 11.0.7 has been with 2x threads

Embellishments matter so little as long as you have the good ones

[mossy fox]

[coarse nest]

Vers embellish on prog boss

Logical even if marginal

[restive edge]

Are there any sims available with the updates from yesterday

[clever belfry]

override time

[gleaming talon]

Yea I also use E, R, and T so when I roll my head the combo continues

[lapis shadow]

macro the cool downs into rampage

[restive edge]

🧠

[coarse nest]

Lmao I guess technically you could if optimal play means nothing for you

Like as a delve hero hell yeah

Go off king

[lapis shadow]

[restive edge]

So no sims to show for yesterday?

[frank dawn]

I think Archi was saying it was around 7% buff

[restive edge]

His note said 15% i thought?

[frank dawn]

oh he did add that

[restive edge]

But i wanted to see raw numbers as my team wants to push CE next season so I'm being asked to settle on a main

[frank dawn]

dps warrior might be a sus play in a CE team

it's impossible to say where we'll end up tuning wise at this point, but unless we have cracked damage or a fight designed perfectly for every single tool we have

not very desirable

[lapis shadow]

our raid buff

[restive edge]

This

I'm the only warrior atm

[cyan star]

Blizzard will see us perform above bottom middle and give us another 14% dmg nerf

[regal vector]

most raid teams will want a war for shout/rally

[radiant sentinel]

my guild needs a warrior, I'm debating switching over from ret... but i don't know if i have the brain cells to survive mechanics with bubble

[restive edge]

I'm stuck between, ele shaman, fury, or UH dk.

Logical fotm choice is ele shaman i believe but

[cyan star]

Fotm always gets the nerf stick

Pick bottom dps they’re bound to get a buff

[restive edge]

Hence fury or UH

[cyan star]

Will have to see from sims closer to patch day

[coarse nest]

I’d pick warrior all day

Minimal raid responsibilities

[cyan star]

I also have warrior braincell

[coarse nest]

[cyan star]

At least both classes have one spec that’s middle of the pack normally

[restive edge]

[lapis shadow]

And both classes have a tank option

[whole yacht]

It's true. I've seen it with my own 2 eyes

[wispy thistle]

if the buffs to fury stick around will it finally be worth to use execute other than for the cdr on BS?

[modest condor]

probably not

the buffs mostly just evened it out with the buffs to the other abilities

unless the 2nd set of buffs was a mistake (which i wouldnt be surprised if it is)

[whole yacht]

Fury execute will suck forever. I swear.

[south kayak]

I don't think so considering they have different buffs this time, like CB 20% crit instead of 10, Bleed Dot and the execute buff

But I do hope they do something about this whole priority thing going on right now because they didn't buff TB or anything else

[modest condor]

i didnt say they accidentally sent the same buff twice tho

but when you look at the numbers compared to other classes

fury is apparently simming way ahead now

[ornate gust]

Can you share the numbers please?

[south kayak]

3m sim I think

on ST

[gilded pawn]

In this patch gear or next patch

[south kayak]

well, obviously with the next patch gear lmao

[cyan star]

Most classes are around 2-2.2 ST sim aren’t they?

[south kayak]

I don't think so

no

[gilded pawn]

Tbf you don’t know if their sims are working correctly

[south kayak]

more than that

[gilded pawn]

Or if they are just sandbagging

[south kayak]

true

[gilded pawn]

Yeah 2m would just be natural gear progression

[south kayak]

Look at the difference between people replying in Hunter feedback thread vs Prot

Other classes are raging harder than warriors

[modest condor]

from what ive heard fury is 3mil with others around 2.6-2.8mil

[south kayak]

which is ironic

considering we have spells like enrage and recklessness

like what is this

get some anger in

[humble plover]

Don't we need to sim like crazy high to be on par with others? I'm just shy of 1.6 rn and obviously warr ain't all that atm

[south kayak]

Yeah, that's a good point, warrior was simming well on ST if not like really close to arms and yet arms pulled ahead in practice

I do think this is a bit of a huge buff and that they should nerf most of it to redistribute across abilities like Thunder Blast etc

[humble plover]

But what silm just said would be crazy high territory

[south kayak]

Indeed

[south kayak]

Thoughts on this

Why are warriors not angry like most specs are

the difference between replies is staggering

[humble plover]

Warrior no read

[gilded pawn]

Is that fair though, that’s 3 dps specs vs 1 tank spec

Not a fair comparison

[south kayak]

Ok show me the fury and arms one

[frank dawn]

Prot warriors kind of a rare breed, and often super dedicated

[south kayak]

lmao

[gilded pawn]

Also hunters are just more bitches

[frank dawn]

Prot gets like half a season per expansion to be good, so the only people sticking with it really love it lol

[south kayak]

We should be more bitches then

we have abilities like anger management

reckelssness

enrage

where's this

in the forums

[gilded pawn]

Yeah that’s the problem

We are managing it

We need to recklessly abandon it

[south kayak]

there's no feedback thread here

and the highest reply is some bullshit about why people play warrior

[frank dawn]

we suck as a class at posting on forums

[south kayak]

If I was NA i'd be shitting out posts

[frank dawn]

even tho devs have said that's the most likely way to be seen lol

[south kayak]

lmao I saw your post in that thread in competitive wow sub

something about fury nerfs

[smoky vale]

@sinful spoke lock in geeker

[south kayak]

and we got buffed meanwhile

[frank dawn]

yeh I was trolling around yesterday when we had no notes

[sinful spoke]

i made mine a while ago

[smoky vale]

i didnt

[dense elbow]

We are fine atm, we about equal with most and a bit ahead of some. Why the uproar in here?

[smoky vale]

bazed might hunt me down soon

[sinful spoke]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/warrior-needs-major-changes-or-a-total-rework/2052990

[coarse nest]

Critcake video

[south kayak]

Because we're not using Uproar

[sinful spoke]

its a bit active'

[frank dawn]

most people don't know we have more hotfix buffs because they weren't in the notes

and still reasonable things to be upset about in our capstones and lack of talent diversity regardless

[south kayak]

What's upsetting me is the priority for THunder blast after all these buffs

please nerf and buff TB and other abilities

Have yu seen our melee damage lol

auto attack

[frank dawn]

yeah with the hotfix buffs, I'm def in the camp that should have been more aura buff territory instead of continuing to buff only 3 abilities to the moon

[south kayak]

50% Execute is fine

and i'd say Rampage is too

but RB CB isn't

BT should be like 10%

along with BB

[south kayak]

Even then i'd be a problem with TB

They have to buff TB now and then do an aura nerf imo

[dense elbow]

Just wait for the overall retuning. I doubt they gonna let it stay like this, where the only things that do dam is Ramp, BT and RB.
Roar/spear/rav/storm/OF/blast/reap is prob gonna get buffed and then they reduce our overall aurabuff to fit with the pack

[mossy fox]

obs

oops

[south kayak]

lmao

did u search obs to start streaming

[mossy fox]

maybe...

[gilded pawn]

🤳

[south kayak]

yo can u say something about how abilities like TB are useless now

[mossy fox]

yes

[south kayak]

buff was too big tbh

[mossy fox]

inb4 people start saying "even when warriors get buffed they don't stop crying" lmao

[dense elbow]

Just make it crystal clear it is to make things be fun to play, not output. And ppl will understand

Surely

[south kayak]

It's a very valid reason to be disappointed tbh

[frank dawn]

I know basically nothing about Unholy DK, but they got those big death coil buffs and that one dude made a great post talking about why that was bad

[south kayak]

maybe they're just doing Spec tuning now

and not hero talents

[frank dawn]

and they nerfed death coil this week and buffed some of the stuff he asked for

[south kayak]

[frank dawn]

so it can happen

[south kayak]

Yeah we need someone like this

Art

Can you make a post on NA regarding the issue with TB etc

and other abilities not being up to par after buffing RB, BT, etc

🙏

[frank dawn]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/fury-warrior-recent-tuning-feedback/2056122 I kind of did

[clever belfry]

warlocks

[modest condor]

even when warriors get buffed they dont stop crying

[south kayak]

Thanks

Looks good

[royal copper]

I love when people read numbers as a fact, not knowing the numbers behind and how they've been created.

[humble plover]

Crying is fun

[dense elbow]

I am just glad to see it ain't only myself for once that dislike the direction of the buffs and impact on DPS profile

[frigid zealot]

The other spec cries

[humble plover]

I only cry in raid when other people spec AOE. Bitch thats my one job gtfo

[south kayak]

This makes us excel in 5t cleave like we're supposed to

[modest condor]

[frank dawn]

has anyone tested RA this morning, I'm still getting the 1 second ticks

[restive granite]

those totemic enh shams dude

i would fight them irl

and probably lose but nonetheless

[coarse nest]

My one job is to kill spiders why are mages and shamans padding

[humble plover]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-27377993

[coarse nest]

Queen

[placid harbor]

do you guys always try to squeeze a raging blow and bloodthirst between rampages even when you risk overcapping rage?

i try to do at least a bloodthirst between rampages, but i still sometimes risk overrageing

[coarse nest]

Assuming you mean the empowered versions, yes

[placid harbor]

yea

so always try to squeeze empowered bloodthirst and raging blow between rampages?

[coarse nest]

Yes

[placid harbor]

++, ty

[thorny peak]

Are we getting buffed cuz of the loss of finery?

[gilded pawn]

Yea

[thorny peak]

Understandable

[clever belfry]

i think fury needs another buff

[modest condor]

same

[sinful spoke]

same

buff roar

[humble plover]

I think we need a 10, 15, and 3

[tepid lily]

good buffs

not enough sadly

or just fixing enh & bm

[gleaming talon]

That looks like a lot of the locks I see above duelist

[fading sky]

Fix outliers

[fair swallow]

alot of people say not to take odyn's fury anymore, but for a mt slayer build or mountain thane build where should i put those points?

[fading sky]

Vc

Vicous contempt

[fair swallow]

even for mountain thane?

[winter shoal]

VC is even better for thane

Because burst of power gives you some juicy BT/BBs

"even better" as in the comparative gain vs OF is higher for thane than for slayer, although at least currently, OF is probably more overall damage

[fading sky]

Nah

U get a lot more prio targrt

[winter shoal]

Overall damage generally matters less than prio/boss damage though

[fading sky]

In low keys id take of

Higher keys vc

+11 i do 2/2 vc

If not 1 of 1 vc

[fading sky]

Ngl in my pugs i havent felt a big difference in overall either. But its pugs so no run is the same

[fair swallow]

i only ask because people have been saying this but when I sim it OF is slightly ahead

[dense elbow]

If we talking m+, slayer, feel free to take OF. You use it to amp your 45 sec bladestorm window. You can also bring 45 sec roar and AM to really double down on this window. It works fine for higher keys, esp for NW and mist.

If you going Thane, OF won't amp bladestorm and is pointless. So just bring VC and RA to focus more on prio dam

[edgy widget]

The raw 30% Bloodthirst damage mult doesn't hurt either

[winter shoal]

You think I read my talents enough to know that's a thing?

[edgy widget]

if we're talking live, OF is fine and very comparable to VC for Thane - just a matter of whether you want a little more AoE or a little more prio damage (also worth noting that there are some instances where VC just doesn't do anything at all, like the last boss of Dawnbreaker)

If we're talking PTR, Thane probably won't play OF at all, since so much more damage has gone into rotational abilities

[fair swallow]

alright, thank you guys for the information

[dense elbow]

Good part about playing mid keys on live atm, is that all the good players are busy in 17+, so we get to dominante meters

[winter shoal]

I don't care if I dominate meters, I just want people to not run it down in 10s

Had a 3k io shadow priest doing 750k overall a couple weeks ago like how is that even possible

[dense elbow]

Dont do 10s, do 12s, easier

[winter shoal]

Can't get into 12s bc I'm only 2900 sadeg

But also I haven't done a key in weeks

[dense elbow]

It is time to go live, dominante!

[opaque falcon]

We back boys

[dense elbow]

We get to pretend 2m overall is good

[slim coral]

I think this might be the first time since I’ve been playing wow that we actually do the most damage out of anyone at 5 targets

On ptr

[broken peak]

are those the gems we use? didnt play for the last week months

https://imgur.com/rXxtkxJ

[radiant plank]

Listed on wowhead

[broken peak]

took that screenshot from wowhead so its a yes

[gleaming talon]

That looks like a lot of the locks I see above duelist

[dense elbow]

PTR is a silly place. You top on 5, then BOOM shaman procs. You were bottom all along.

Still, we already were just strong if comparing to the avg situation and players. Now we just too strong.

The avg Joe will hate us, even as we ain't best top end

Not a good place to be

[winter shoal]

thunderlord vs stormcaller is a sim question but you'll always use fathomdweller and skipper

[summer quail]

Are we too strong tho? I bet there's a few stronger specs

[edgy widget]

you're asking the wrong person lmao

[restive granite]

im getting like double marked for execution procs

did something change?

[dense elbow]

Compares in the avg bracket, not top. Ya, it is the same on live. An avg rogue is worse or equal, a great is Leagues ahead. Then you got spec/class comparisments. We are ahead or equal depending on what we expect to be the set goalpins of performance.
The avg Joe is the impression I stressed there

So worst case scenario, we get nerfed to fit in that bracket better. Being left behind top end as per usual.
That is the contextual worry

[summer quail]

tru lmao

[frank dawn]

Shit can just be streaky af

[outer umbra]

I’d check wcl

[humble plover]

Damn both classes I like losing to wizard. Such is life

[slim coral]

If we just pretend we suck then we aren’t op right?

[smoky vale]

hi

[slim coral]

Wassup

[dense elbow]

Depends on where you set and what you look for as the bar

[summer quail]

exactly, and also as long as some specs beat us then it's fine... right?

[slim coral]

But what if I told you no specs beat us

Theoretically

[summer quail]

"theoretically" idk enhance still giga

fire beating crit atm

oh btw baze, i tuned out of dans stream. how did his AM build go? @slim coral

[dense elbow]

In the screenshot you refer to crit beat the monk.
So what is the outlier and to where is the tuning goals. The monk or the mage, or both the war and the mage?

[summer quail]

i want fury to be the 4th best dps spec in m+. that is the sweet spot

[dense elbow]

I agree, not tip top, but not bottom.

[slim coral]

It wasn’t too far off from ra when I ran the keys with him

I played ra thane and he was only like 2.5M overall while I was 2.78M

So AM could def be viable

[summer quail]

did he beat you in st? coz if there was a decent gap in st, AM might be the play

st important

[dense elbow]

That slayer AM or Thane? For context

[summer quail]

slayer

[restive granite]

no dude

no way

im getting like

5x slayering strikes procs

its not a streak its been 90 minutes of pulls now

and every pull its back to back

[dense elbow]

You mean it sends 5 strikes in a row, and then you sit without any. Then 5 in a row, and wait?

[restive granite]

i meant its proccing 5 times more often

than it did on monday

when i last played my warr

well not 5

2-3 times

[dense elbow]

Do you have old numbers to compare to, logs or details breakdown?

[charred estuary]

Are those buffs archi posted in updates live on PTR right now? I still see the bloodbath dot ticking every 1s

[thick fossil]

@smoky vale I got something new to show you. In voice chat stream

[mossy fox]

everything is fine

[restive granite]

yeah, im raiding atm

ill post them once we are on a break

[dense elbow]

🙏

[dapper goblet]

warrior getting another 40% aura buff for no reason

just cant keep getting away with it

[winter shoal]

enhance still better anyways

[frank dawn]

Bloodbath dot was still ticking every 1s for me too. Haven’t been able to figure out why

[fast mural]

the only reason for these buffs is that next tier is a ST tier and fury is lowest on boss dmg

surely you wont have a mass grip and aoe adds down

[smoky vale]

is it beat saber time?

[smoky vale]

hi

[dense elbow]

I do worry of a we crush the avg key experience, situation. And we get nerfed, and then fall light years behind on real keys - and are avg in normal keys

[fast mural]

dejavu

history do be repeating itself

[frank dawn]

Idk maybe Blizz finally embracing we offer dog shit to groups beyond our damage

And since they aren’t fixing the non damage part this patch

[dense elbow]

The dream, that they do that. Doubt that tho

[fast mural]

is fury ahead in ST now compared to arms ?

[radiant plank]

Ye

[fast mural]

F

its getting nerfed

[frank dawn]

Arms dumb

[radiant plank]

Praying

[frank dawn]

Delete spec

[undone flower]

and delete aug evoker

[fast mural]

i dont want 2 fury tiers in a row

cringe

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, Fury will very likely be nerfed a bit

[sour elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/step-brothers-dont-stop-scolding-hey-gif-7445379

[fast mural]

they buffed odyns fury
that means its getting nerfed again

odyns fury buffs always mean bad things

[dense elbow]

Luckily OF did not get buffed, so don't worry

Execute tho...

That is a bad sign

[fast mural]

it did get buffed in the announced buffs

the rereverted ones

[edgy widget]

OF did get buffed

[dense elbow]

That is back again

[edgy widget]

the mid-week hotfix was reverted, but those changes went live again in the next build

[dense elbow]

Er got em on top of the new stuff. Much happiness 😊

[fast mural]

thats why i said re-reverted

maybe i forgot 1 re

[edgy widget]

un-reverted

reimplemented

buffed back

[dense elbow]

I am waiting with hopeful eyes for the retuning of the dam profile tho

[undone flower]

sometime a paint drawing can explain more accurately things to the brown name people we are

[slim coral]

I don’t wanna hear it enhancement got away with it all tier

[dense elbow]

Enh in casuals keys are worse than warriors

Deal with it

[dapper goblet]

@slim coral how many warriors were in on queen vs enh shamans

i'll wait

[slim coral]

W sandbag

[dense elbow]

Content should be balanced around the majority, not the upper o.o1%.
As such, most enh on live do 1-1.5m overall in keys. Most Fury do 1.5-2m.
Fury is the problem. Not the enh, even as a good player can pull 3m overall on it and warrior only 2.2 on theirs

We so doomed

[smoky vale]

guys osaliske is streaming nothign

and im just here

help

[slim coral]

3 for RWF but shaman has skyrocketed since how many warriors do you see in current m+ meta?

[dapper goblet]

who cares about m+ mini game

[slim coral]

Shaman best ST in raid too

But yes for burst aoe fury gaps

[dense elbow]

Bazed coping. Looking at top end

Smh

[winter shoal]

based

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[winter shoal]

which pixel is warrior

[slim coral]

Just one

[dense elbow]

Ignoring that 100k ppl doing 1m DPS, with 1k doing 3m. Is worse than 100k ppl doing 2m and 1k doing 2.2m

[smoky vale]

hi xeos

[slim coral]

And for whatever reason they run a mage over a hunter

[smoky vale]

bazed for bane

[dapper goblet]

lets get a mute on gio

[smoky vale]

d

xeos will you support me tonight

i attack queen!

[dapper goblet]

hope you wipe

all night

[smoky vale]

[undone flower]

You will have a kiss on your cheek if you kill her tonight @smoky vale ♥️

[dense elbow]

We need to become gigs Fotm, so all the 30% of the specs potential players play warrior. Making our avg looking worse, so we get buffs

[smoky vale]

[dense elbow]

Crit should do his best to pull the masses in with lies

[slim coral]

Why don’t you sandbag for us

[dense elbow]

I am, it just ain't enough

[smoky vale]

crit just needs to sandbag on max's tierlist of the patch that he says doesnt matter but all the normies eat up like slop

[dense elbow]

I play slayer am exe build

[smoky vale]

xd

[dense elbow]

What more can I do

[smoky vale]

play onslaught

[charred estuary]

Make execute great again man fr

[smoky vale]

?

[frank dawn]

oof

[dense elbow]

There are limits, Gio

[smoky vale]

you arent sandbagging enough

:3

[slim coral]

If Crit doesn’t put us A instead of S I’ll be disappointed

[dense elbow]

Put us in S, get the fotm masses

Save warrior from nerfs

[smoky vale]

only way warrior is saved from nerfs is we play onslaught

inshallah

[dense elbow]

Even if I play OS, I will beat 90% of PuGs

There is no god or hope

[smoky vale]

das not hard kitty

i have to actively be asleep

[dense elbow]

Fotm players are just too strong of a sandbag

[smoky vale]

to lose

[dense elbow]

We need them

[sinful spoke]

guys

we need to make a warrior only neighborhood

no other classes allowed

[dense elbow]

Closed community warrior movement; all fun and games - till we finally rub our two braincells together and go
"Why ouchie no go way way?"

[restive granite]

@dense elbow it was a streak

now im not getting any

sadge

an almost 2 hour streak

[dense elbow]

🫂

[outer umbra]

Garrosh’s orgrimmar was just that

God i miss him

[restive granite]

anyone knows if bladestorm hits the acolytes in platform 2 of ansurek?

[thick fossil]

I was trying to show Synth Riders. Similar game, a lot more graphically spectacular. Turns out the same problem always happens though. It refused to actually stream and gives a black screen.

[radiant plank]

@sudden tusk

hi

[thick fossil]

Appropriate reactions. uh huh uh huh

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-stop-it-gif-8738085

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/filthy-frank-papa-franku-weeaboo-trash-gif-18420198

Man.... Filthy Frank. Back when the internet was a simplier place.

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/burnice-burnice-go-burnice-dance-burnice-zzz-zenless-gif-775985986860153028

[winter shoal]

Back when you could just say slurs without consequences am I right

[dapper goblet]

hey guys madox here

bitch about enh

but plays ele

[winter shoal]

[dapper goblet]

madox for yellow

[sudden tusk]

bro im leaning enhance

[fading sky]

Commom ret tactic
Ends.up with 2 seasons of meta or near meta

[sudden tusk]

this specs annoying

[thick fossil]

Don't know if I would go that far. It was just less politically or cruel.

[winter shoal]

I'm mostly just fucking with you

[thick fossil]

How's that going?

[winter shoal]

I never watched filthy frank so idk if he actually dropped slurs

[sudden tusk]

tickle monster

[winter shoal]

But knowing the internet at the time, I assume he did

[winter shoal]

Bro has myth sac on his alt shaman and I still haven't gotten it on main all season

[thick fossil]

Nah, he wasn't racist just very crude.

[sudden tusk]

i have mythic sac on 4 alts btw

[fading sky]

Same

[sudden tusk]

havent seen it on warriro once

[winter shoal]

Consider this: explode

[thick fossil]

Soooooo ... I've seen it twice on my warrior.

https://tenor.com/view/hiding-meme-homer-the-simpsons-bush-gif-16311175

[sudden tusk]

ill be real though i see enh do a gorillion damage

im even setting up pre tempests

and im dogshit at this class rn

[thick fossil]

Yeah, it's not as hard or complicated as ppl let on.

[covert coyote]

I just got my M sac yesterday. Had to praise Allah

[hollow elk]

Someone stop crit cake. He Gona get us nerfed

He's gota sandbag

[thick fossil]

Uh... you haven't watched the 13 Rookery vid have you?

He doesn't need to sandbag.

[winter shoal]

Fury got buffed 15% since that video

[hollow elk]

Are you looking at his current stream?

[rose bay]

critcake more vids i need that 100% buff

[thick fossil]

Straight aura buff 15%?

[winter shoal]

#updates-midnight message

[hollow elk]

Multiple buffs that round it to 15%

[thick fossil]

Holy shit

We might be on par now?

Still not keen on the way the dot works, but meh?

[hollow elk]

No no we can't poke heads over the radar,

[south kayak]

On par? we might be the best spec in the game

[dapper goblet]

🧑‍🚀 🔫 🧑‍🚀

[thick fossil]

Even with these buffs, we're most likely mid. LMAO @south kayak doubtful. That 13 Rook Crit was more than 15% behind. Unless they un-nerf our target caps we're still gonna be mid at best.

[hollow elk]

We gone get nuked

[pearl sequoia]

'We're unhappy with the mid performance of warrior so we will be dropping them to bottom 3'

[dense elbow]

Just remember to always specify what content you are talking about, or it will be a standard M+ vs raider discussion, that got two ppl going at it throwing nothing but air at eachother :v

[fading sky]

Was fun

[thick fossil]

That sounds like Blizzard right there. lol

[foggy wigeon]

wait s

so

fury get double buffed ?

[fading sky]

But our profile, is just to good

[foggy wigeon]

• ?

[slim coral]

Yes

[foggy wigeon]

they got double buffed ?

omg

[ocean orchid]

Rip, was hoping not to be fury for another season.

[coarse nest]

Don’t worry they’ll nerf us 100% after week1 logs