fury

[compact knot]

i was against it but then played it and it was fun

[earnest canyon]

I am used to hunter which is much slower, whereas fury I always am mashing a button, so adding another one in just feels too much

[summer quail]

Thane more aoe but doesn't burst as fast. Slayer more st

[earnest canyon]

is that because of marks of execution stacks?

[gilded pawn]

Thunderclap replaces a button

[compact knot]

imminient demise and overwhelming blades mostly

[gilded pawn]

It doesn’t add

[earnest canyon]

what does it replace? I am still getting the "rotation" (more priority list it feels), down

[compact knot]

whirlwind

it just becomes whirlwind

so it plays the exact same way pretty much

[slim coral]

yeah but even here for example I got a 99 and still did less than most everyone pretty much

and their AOE is better than fury's

[earnest canyon]

wait you dont whirlwind as thane? I have it specced no matter whether im thane or slayer cos its iconic to me

like barbarian from diablo

[compact knot]

no you still spec into whirlwind

you just use thunderclap instead of actually pushing whirlwind

[young swan]

oh thats funny

i didnt know velusha raided there

[slim coral]

how you know velusha

[young swan]

raided with him in aberrus

[slim coral]

ah

yeah he's chill

[earnest canyon]

but why spec into it if you dont press it? I tried ravager (wowhead recommends that), but it seems to hit like a wet fart

[slim coral]

Ele has cracked ST

even with a 91 they blow us out the water

[compact knot]

you need to spec into it, if you dont spec into it, it doesnt give you whirlwind stacks that make your abilities cleave

also ravager is just better because you can cast during it

[slim coral]

also thane's ST

is so bad

idk why they haven't buffed it at all

[gilded pawn]

Read the thane talents

All whirlwind talents also effects thunderclap

[gilded pawn]

They did buff it a little bit back

Just wasn’t enough

[compact knot]

it got buffed on ptr right

or?

[earnest canyon]

aaaaaah for thane, thanks!

[slim coral]

it's not even close to where it needs to be

[smoky vale]

@slim coral hi

[slim coral]

not thane ST specifically when comapred to slayer no

[smoky vale]

bazed

[compact knot]

ah

[smoky vale]

gtrats on your pc trial

[compact knot]

i thought they did a lighting strikes buff

[slim coral]

wassup gio

[young swan]

they didnt but thane generally likes ability buffs more bc of all the modifiers in its tree

[summer quail]

Nahh. They should have tho

[slim coral]

they need to buff TC

on ST

[compact knot]

i think that gathering clouds should be buffed specifically

[gilded pawn]

It was this

Thane got 1.9% more buffs than slayer

But that’s not enough

[earnest canyon]

wait i didnt mean whirlwind lmao....I meant bladestorm.....

[gilded pawn]

Thane is still long behind

I don’t remember how many ST tuning levers thane has

[compact knot]

bladestorm is better in slayer because slayer buffs it a lot, ravager is better in thane because you can cast during ravager

[summer quail]

Thane wants ravager. While as you said ravager itself does very little you can use abilities during it unlike bladestorm

[gilded pawn]

Bladestorm is better in slayer because slayer doesn’t function without bladestorm

[earnest canyon]

i find bladestorm way more fun

[summer quail]

Then play slayer

[smoky vale]

slayer is better anyways in raid...

[slim coral]

also another issue with warrior is that arms and fury share way too many big cds

so the specs end up feeling rather samish

[gilded pawn]

All 3 rogues feel different despite being rogues

Very cool

[slim coral]

well they have diff abilites

and cds

fury and arms pretty much share everything

except OF and Onslaught

and warbreaker

[compact knot]

nah my slayer strikes rng is so fucked today

its never been this bad

this is really fucking bad

[earnest canyon]

Yeah I am playing slayer atm as I find that more fun....i switch every few levels just to see how it feels, but thane just doesnt feel as a cool as slayer

[smoky vale]

was watching anime openings with my friend

sleep time now

also decided to watch 1 episode of sao alicization

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-sad-rain-lonely-gif-24200250

[smoky vale]

watched fairy tail bleach naruto shippuden sao

[compact knot]

the general consensus is sao isnt worth it after season 1 yeah

or is that bait

[smoky vale]

imo 1st 4 episodes

[compact knot]

yeah it felt that way lmao

[smoky vale]

actively using sa as a plot device is CRAZY

[compact knot]

they got to the second game and it was hard to watch

[smoky vale]

i just realized i havent read kagurabachi this week

when did i read it

...

[compact knot]

OOKKK

i did it

i had good slayer strike rng on a boss

FUCKKKK

would have been rank one by like 300k if it had the same kill time as the current rank 1 kill

all good though

[earnest canyon]

is execute just low down the priority list for both thane and slayer? in the past warrior was all about execute, but for fury it seems not?

[compact knot]

you dont push execute as thane unless you literally have noting else to push

like cant bt, cant rampage, cant raging blow or tclap

which almost never happens

actually in ST i think you can execute over tclap, but not in aoe

slayer its build into the rotation for marked by execution and is the highest prio ability if you have 3 stacks

[earnest canyon]

ok thanks....yes with slayer i try to wait for 3 but sometimes i have nothing to push and im at 2 stacks

[compact knot]

yeah thats fine

pushing a button is better than not pushing a button, doesnt need to be at 3 stacks always

[sour frigate]

warrior moment

[compact knot]

actually 26k off rank 1 kyveza

im pissed

[sour frigate]

sucked

casually loading as ele with shitter gear and no spymussy

[compact knot]

30 sec longer kill time too

[compact knot]

...

thats actually crazy

[sour frigate]

weakge

[sour frigate]

imagine if some buttons were crit there

[compact knot]

RIGHT!

or just slightly more slayer strike procs

[sour frigate]

with crit

[compact knot]

my princess might be the best rng ive ever had

had like 6 slayer strikes procs in my opener spear with lust and pot

bursted for 4.5m dps at the peak

[sour frigate]

delete

warrior dev will see it

[earnest canyon]

Is the warrior dev bad?

[junior gale]

if by warrior dev you mean the 5 ppl who do class design then yeah

[earnest canyon]

oh lol

iu thought each class had its own designer

or maybe 2-3 classes per person

[junior gale]

no thats just a meme

[earnest canyon]

i see

[sullen dove]

i mean some classes are run like that ya

just dont think its like a standard for all of em

[slim coral]

hop in disc

[sullen dove]

why

[slim coral]

gio has a question

[sullen dove]

if only there were other ways

am playing fornite minecraft

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

its actually uncanny how fun

like lego odyssey or somethin idk

[smoky vale]

can we play as a discord :3

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/miyabi-zenless-zone-zero-zzz-hoyoverse-motivated-gif-7272010783378449680

[ornate sable]

Hi folks,
On brood, anger-management, when I get egg break.
My reck is often 10s late,
Is there 1 or 2 talents I can change to lose some damage but improve consistency?

[sullen dove]

frenzied enrage instead of powerful if you dont already

and typically ppl would drop bloodcraze for either sudden death or depths of insanity

[ornate sable]

mhm, I did that

[sullen dove]

DOI is like a little more zero brain and thinkge tho

o..

then i mean... idk just try and keep as much uptime as you can and hit rampage as soon as possible?

[ornate sable]

bloodcraze drop okay

ty

[sullen dove]

o if u only meant u did first

yea that may help

but gl o7

[slim coral]

you need to rampage a lot more

reck should be up in time

[ornate sable]

thank you, i must move to egg very early because my player ability not amazing

[sullen dove]

ya some eggs are also worse to get

[slim coral]

you should be able to hit boss while at eggs

most of the time

[sullen dove]

like first set the 3 near boss are fine but if you get triangle/far egg that can bite you

[ornate sable]

mhm ideally

[sullen dove]

but generally most are pretty close to boss to keep meleeing until last like 1 or 2 seconds

[smoky vale]

reck roar of ramp bs ava

is your opener

[ornate sable]

I wipe raid like 5 times

[smoky vale]

if lust on opener

[sullen dove]

perhaps just get to egg then and not worry about it

[smoky vale]

@sullen dove hi

[sullen dove]

elo

[smoky vale]

join

[sullen dove]

am yappage with others

[slim coral]

[smoky vale]

is it the eu ff players

😦

[sullen dove]

uh i mean technically

tho only like 3 out of like 8 are in eu

[smoky vale]

get us in

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

[slim coral]

Swordish is joining Echo confirmed

[sullen dove]

real

[slim coral]

did you reply back to warpath

they still need a war

[ornate sable]

I roar and OF only on pull

[smoky vale]

you should press everything if you are lusting on pull

[ornate sable]

We do not lust on pull

[slim coral]

You should tell your guild to lust on pull

[smoky vale]

how many players in your guild that have spymasters actually do damage

[sour frigate]

[smoky vale]

i want more

[light raptor]

hows arms vs fury looking for next season havent played warrior since DF out of the loop a bit

[sour frigate]

[ornate sable]

Don't ask when we lust, I don't want to talk about it

I just play around it until I stop wiping the raid myself

I'm not that great

[sour frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[earnest canyon]

🤣

[smoky vale]

Independent of when you are lusting your opener at least should be reck roar of ramp bs

[sullen dove]

considering all the buffs and ring and ilvl you probably should never see the third phase at this point

but i think lusting the 5th set of adds being 3 worms is the only semi reasonable thing

cuz 3 worms can be hectic if they're not kicked

but any other lust think kinda useless other than on pull but eh

[light raptor]

[somber elk]

guys, hows fury in keys on ptr?

[stoic anchor]

question
on a wowhead guide is there a place i can pull the pawn string from for stat prior to input into zygor?

[slim coral]

it's decent for now

[somber elk]

decent means no chance to pug I suppose?^^

[slim coral]

pretty much unless you're giga ahead in io

even then warrior doenst have a lot of utility compared to other classes

sometimes people will need lust or other utility

[somber elk]

so as always^^

[sour frigate]

yeah the famous ench utility

having 30% more numbers than other spec

huh

[stoic anchor]

looking to get into mythic+ if anyone is keen to help me 😛

[hardy bluff]

play it

[stoic anchor]

keep getting denied

[earnest canyon]

what is your rio? unless you are a meta class you need high rio

[stoic anchor]

done a 0 but finding it hard to get into 1s or 2s. got to start somwhere?

[earnest canyon]

what is your rio though?

I assume 0?

[stoic anchor]

yeah

[earnest canyon]

So yeah, just gotta work your way up....or just tank

I just tanked on my druid and paladin til I got a decent score to join as dps (I hate tanking)

[stoic anchor]

want to help me out ? its okay if you cant no stress just finding it hard to start off thats all

[earnest canyon]

no sorry....im burnt out for this week

i hate m+

i just put a movie on and keep signing up til i get in, but no point in signing up for too high keys and hoping to get carried

[summer crater]

Start out in delves

[stoic anchor]

is there a group finder for it?

[sour frigate]

u can run it solo..

[vital granite]

Has there been any ptr sims when it comes to trinkets?

[next ruin]

I do not remember who told me am thane was the funniest build currently. But he's right. How come litteraly no one plays it?

[fervent yoke]

What’s so funny about it?

[next ruin]

Always reck or avatar up

Spamming

[slim coral]

People play it in high keys

but in raid it's not generally good because ads die fast and it's ST is very bad compared to slayer

[next ruin]

I meant within thane high keys

[earnest canyon]

How do you always have reck or avatar up....im level 79 with crap gear, and still very much learning

[slim coral]

he meant fun

[next ruin]

Yes my bad

[next ruin]

I'm 638 equipped and by always I mean I have something up almost every pack in m+

[shut tusk]

Join a guild. Best advice I can give you

Pugging is toxic af

[earnest canyon]

You don't macro them together?

[dense elbow]

He talking AM Thane, not RA - if so, it was likely myself spreading the good word

Cause AM Thane is silly fun

[earnest canyon]

What is AM?

[dense elbow]

Just play Shaman you fool

Anger Management

It is the S2 DF play style, of send it on CD to get CD back faster. Very furious

[earnest canyon]

I don't know what s2 DF means. I will check anger management talent when I get back home though thanks.

[storm rune]

season 2 of the last expansion

[next ruin]

For some reason it even sims higher for me than ra, but it's very marginal

[dense elbow]

That is kinda neat, ngl. RA usually sims quite a bit more on ST

[summer quail]

In st? No way

[modest condor]

AM has been competitive with RA on st for months

it's just that if they sim the same you would rather play RA because it hurts less from downtime

this is RA vs AM for me http://puu.sh/Knwr7/e2decc3ce3.png

[summer quail]

Tru

[dense elbow]

Neat, for me it was 1. something%

[next ruin]

Yep it's prolly suboptimal, but it doesn't feel like griefing which is cool

In aoe it sims 0,5% more for me

[dense elbow]

Ye, 0.2% is nothing to worry about - that is less than what RNG varriance will do

[south kayak]

Yo

[warm crag]

AM is woke

[next ruin]

It might be the play next patch right for m+

[modest condor]

it's almost certainly gonna be in weekly keys

i think in higher keys RA can be played depending on tuning

[dense elbow]

With RA, I did a bit more dam than with AM on PTR. RA is quite a bit of value on ST and surprisingly a lot on MT

AM kinda just helps you use undertuned Bladestorm

[frank dawn]

Rebuff bladestorm and OF

They did nothing wrong

[dense elbow]

^

[next ruin]

That's some good news

[next ruin]

Changing our damage profile is good. If we have to get rid of OF it's actually a good offer

[dense elbow]

Flat is boring

Have AM Thane work; Also rebuff OF and BS, let both playerbases have fun

no need to not have both options

Just want to say - Team Crylics are the only ones that consistently invite warrior ♥ Remember to send them your love

[iron kernel]

insta leave if i see cyrillic names

[eternal sundial]

pls enable class color

[dense elbow]

Nein

[next ruin]

This is the ui some domestic terrorist would use

[granite trout]

Last played back before classic relaunched. Anything much changed?

[golden hare]

woke mind virus infecting my anger management...

[restive granite]

evil squaremen have depleted most of my keys

i aint buying that

[golden hare]

racism batchest

[oblique trail]

You think flat is boring, but also think AM is great

[smoky vale]

lol

me when you are playing worse outlaw

[warm crag]

funkykitty exposed as woke

[restive granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1326809946997919805.webp?size=96&animated=true

[oblique trail]

Spongie exposed as a woke

I have no proof

[gleaming siren]

I have proof

I will provide it upon request

[smoky vale]

provide

[gleaming siren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1321448015864659978/12289843_7abd6.gif

[eternal sundial]

vorp

[slim coral]

What is Cyrillic? In the us we only have English pretty much

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/vorp-enel-gif-14035867409980336958

[smoky vale]

[smoky vale]

gm

[slim coral]

Sup

[gleaming siren]

That is a very US sentence

imma be real

[smoky vale]

us only real country

[slim coral]

I mean we don’t have to play with a language filter like eu

[smoky vale]

[oblique trail]

Cyrillic is basically the slavic alphabet

So Russian, Ukrainian etc

[slim coral]

I cannot imagine a group saying danish speakers only that’d be crazy

[eternal sundial]

you dont have to here either

[oblique trail]

Well no one does either

[eternal sundial]

theres guilds language x only

[slim coral]

[oblique trail]

You might find some unhinged group once a season that demands a certain language

But it's extremely rare

By default it's just English

[slim coral]

Ah I see

Only languages I know are mandarin English and Spanish

[modest condor]

i know a lot more languages

i cant understand them tho

[slim coral]

That’s Pog

[smoky vale]

pog

[golden hare]

that's crazy

[radiant plank]

Once a season

have u checked inside eu boosting communities

u need to look for the english speaking grps there

so many demand persian etc

[oblique trail]

I don't for good reason

If I boost HC it's with an organised group

Where I just sign up and show up

[gleaming siren]

Idk what you expect, there's not many reasons to degen as much as those groups do

[winter shoal]

Any knowers that know why my ptr dummy logs are extremely consistently ~1.3m dps despite details being anywhere from like 1.6-1.8m

[sudden tusk]

Raid buffs?

Wait you said logs uh

[winter shoal]

Yeah no buffs other than battle shout

Log just missing 90m damage

[sudden tusk]

No idea

[eternal sundial]

aug open world

mby

[winter shoal]

I'm in silvermoon there is literally nobody else here

Something has to be fucked with execute range

[hardy bluff]

did the dummy hit 0? might be fucked then

[winter shoal]

It's less severe with fury it seems (details was like 1.65 I think but dots fucked it)

[winter shoal]

Oh that might be it

Like logs don't include overkill damage but details does ig

[hardy bluff]

might be something like that

[dense elbow]

Oh, I totally agree AM got a funfactor. It is why you see me suggest it all the time. I also know my own feelings too, so I advocate for them aswell

o7

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1334106520711073803/8lGFp.gif

[south kayak]

[fickle bluff]

goat apparently

[jovial coral]

Yeah might get Banezi in the group

That would be insane

[oblique trail]

I think this sounds like the worst outcome

[heady cobalt]

Here's a cook, nerf WW cleave to 50% and buff our ST by ~20%. our AOE would be sameish but our prio and Boss DPS would be close if not on par with a enhance. (if you look at all the specs that have great prio DPS, you can count them on one hand.)

[modest condor]

they could buff our st by 20% without nerfing ww cleave

[heady cobalt]

I'm Trying to be realistic (they will nerf us instead)

[modest condor]

in fact i would say our ww cleave needs love more than our st

like idk if you've seen our aoe damage outside of cooldowns but it's anything but competitive

[heady cobalt]

thats a issue i have no cook for other than makeing rec like a 45s cd.

[dense elbow]

Our ST is fine ish, problem is our AoE falls off a cliff, as we dont have any real tools to do dam there

The ones we had got nerfed into the ground and beyond

[thick fossil]

Reck being 45 wouldn't change much till s2

[dense elbow]

They werent even good, so you know they dont want us to do dam

[heady cobalt]

the 45 rec is with the change to RA in mind

[dense elbow]

What you got to remember, mr Goose, is that their goal is that we are mid

at max

Cook all you want - it would just become nerf city

[thick fossil]

Our WW aoe is also very small in comparison

[dense elbow]

Our WW AoE is less than the softcapped classes do

on 5

Its a disgrace balance wise

Yet - that is what they want

so hey

[thick fossil]

Yeah, that is a problem

[heady cobalt]

im just throwin shot out there. ive play warrior long enough that i know will end anyway.

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[thick fossil]

Lol

[dense elbow]

I get it, we all got that period of copium that overflows into hopium

[thick fossil]

Were use to the abuse

[dense elbow]

But hey, on PTR I am usually top DPS

Lets ignore the fact it is the same on live

You top till you meet someone who plays for real and a real class

that doubles your DPS

[iron kernel]

Conscious Ukrainians don't play on the RU server

[oblique trail]

Idk what this has to do with what I wrote, but sure

[clever belfry]

you wouldnt get it

[oblique trail]

I'm quite stupid so don't think I would ever

[solemn kraken]

does anyone have any good single target talent builds I could use I don't require a guide thank you 🙂

[dense elbow]

There are builds for everything in the pins 📌
If you are new to discord, top right corner on PC, or on phone, swipe down to bring up the pinned messages section

• • ^ -

[smoky vale]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[compact knot]

dude what the fuck

[covert blaze]

canon

[compact knot]

i just tried pugging heroic on my mage, this guy brings 4 healers for the first boss, then kicks all the healers on second boss and trys to solo heal it for his hps parse, 3/4s of the raid dies and he only parses a 98

what a fucking dog

[covert blaze]

caring about healing parses is crazy

[compact knot]

nah its actually crazy

he has like the worst hps parses on mythic, and then is rank 11 on heroic cause he solo heals every fight

he has killed bloodbound horror 6 times this week fishing for a better parse

i mean if your gonna try to hps parse atleast be good at healing LOL, let 20 people die just to get a dogshit parse, insane

dps hps parses > healer hps parses

[clever path]

parsing is a fools game anyway.

using it as a goalpost is fine though

[modest condor]

parsing is the one thing that keeps farm fun

[covert blaze]

100%

[compact knot]

parsing is a mini game that is extremely fun

[sour frigate]

gambo 🎰

[thin crane]

How’s fury looking on ptr anyone test it out?

[winter shoal]

I've only tested it on dummy

A little behind arms on pure single target

No idea how it'll be in raid/keys

AM Thane seems pretty decent though on aoe which is good news to me

[smoky vale]

normal parse

[dense elbow]

it seems to end up around mid, for context in m+:
On avg I do 2.5m to 3m in keys.
Most ppl do around that. I beat perhaps 80% of PuGs I done keys with by a decent margin.
Then you got warlocks, enh, rogue, that does closer to 4m overalls.
So same as this season prob, you will be doing ok dam - be mid, nothing anyone really wants for M+. Higher you go, the more DPS who just AoE like crazy or need time to ramp up, just crush us with our gutted AoE

[compact knot]

yeah but its hps parse so its extremely high skill

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-staring-skinwalker-dougy-doug-gif-16854398839794515932

[chilly compass]

Hello warriors, is bloodbath priority over crushing blow in all situations? I can't seem to find an answer to this. I know we're supposed to buff rampage with salughtering strikes, but does that mean we are also holding rampage for some stack of it? I suppose this is two questions. Apologies if these are stupid and obvious, I've just come back to dps after tanking for a year and I'm super fuzzy.

[warm crag]

we don't actually care about slaughtering strikes at all, and usually cb > bb but it doesn't really matter since you press both anyways after every rampage

the basics should be outlined in the wowhead guide on the rotation page if you wanna read up a bit

[chilly compass]

Thank you for the quick response! I will do that.

[high inlet]

Hey at what level key does slayer fall off for mountain Thrane

[smoky vale]

16

[high inlet]

Oh so if I’m just doing 10s

Just run slayer

[summer quail]

he's memeing with the 16 answer

if you do not have 2 other big boi dps you will do more damage in 10s as thane

[high inlet]

Okay thanks !

[sour frigate]

If u have ret go am slayer

[high inlet]

Why do u say this

[sour frigate]

Cuz thats what i do

If u play wayeor u do nuts damage in 10s anyway

[dense elbow]

Just go whatever you enjoy. I go slayer even if it is worse. Why? More fun. And as bringing warrior is basically already throwing away 10-100% damage, what is another 2% lost?

[high inlet]

tbh ur right slayer is more fun to play feels smoother. fuck it its just 10s

[sour frigate]

[eternal lance]

[covert blaze]

[slim coral]

@edgy widget your favorite people (torghast abusers) are back

[summer crater]

That time and those previous scores

It feels like you can never trust anything from the Asian players on the Asian servers

[covert blaze]

CN

[edgy widget]

Not torghast, it was an exploit with the NY event, but it was fixed earlier today

[edgy widget]

Can trust how creative they are to find this stuff!

It’s honestly impressive

[slim coral]

Oh damn that buff is op asf never new it was that strong

[robust swallow]

Does anyone know how big of a difference is Champion's Spear vs Thunderous Roar when using the Slayer Raid Single Target build from WoWHead? I typically don't like ground placed AOEs and was curious if I could just move the points in Champion's Spear to Thunderous Roar and its upgrades if it would be a huge DPS loss

[smoky vale]

URGHENT

IM FILLING ON QUEEN

[warm crag]

you can just sim this in raidbots but its not too much of a loss like <1%

[warm crag]

blaste her

[smoky vale]

i have wrong fury stats on my 2nd war

gg

[warm crag]

2nd war?

?

[robust swallow]

Okay and if I do make the change should I get the reduced CD for Thunderous Roar or leave it at the 1.5 min so its the same CD as my other CDs which leaves Armored to the Teeth at rank 2

[warm crag]

idk its probably the 90s roar but again just sim it

[warm crag]

why do you have 2

[smoky vale]

giowarx is geared for arm

bc

split

for next

[warm crag]

why are u splitting

what wr are u in

[exotic root]

958

pushing for 957

[covert blaze]

crazy concept

[smoky vale]

i died to weblades 2 times

in 1 pull

OINFU SDGHAFJUHS'

[exotic root]

nice fucking dmg idiot

[warm crag]

noob lol

[cerulean grail]

Play movement speed gem+speed when enrage and u cant slack anymore

[modest condor]

movement speed gem doesnt stack with speed when enrage

[sour frigate]

stay positive

🌠

[exotic root]

I was complimenting him

hence the word nice

[sour frigate]

🥰

[exotic root]

I would not ever be rude to Giovanni fifty seven

[sour frigate]

giowargodx waiting room

[smoky vale]

you tunig in

[sour frigate]

im really considering creating a vdh now

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-necro-skull-trooper-colt-general-low-tier-god-skull-trooper-gif-26079010

[winter shoal]

consider dn

[sour frigate]

dreadnaught?

[winter shoal]

no, do not (create a cdh)

vdh

sorry american education made me illiterate

[exotic root]

cengence demon hunter

[sour frigate]

havent played dh in my life might be worth a shot

[exotic root]

Let’s fucking go

[sour frigate]

want a spec that wont spend hrs in lfg

[winter shoal]

you know what to do

starts with an A

ends with "ugmentation evoker"

[sour frigate]

sounds ass

[exotic root]

Can I have a hint

[winter shoal]

You can have dn

[sour frigate]

dreadnaught?

[exotic root]

do not ?

[winter shoal]

I wrote myself into a corner here fellas

[exotic root]

wtf does you can have do not mean

[winter shoal]

I did not have a punchline ready

dungeon noobs?

I think that makes sense

[exotic root]

disgusting noobs

for when new players don’t smell good

[winter shoal]

approaching getting reported for toxic communications, I fear

[exotic root]

sorry

[plucky obsidian]

So is ravager better than bladestorm in m+?

[winter shoal]

If you're playing slayer, you will always play bladestorm (raid or M+)

If you're playing thane, you will always play ravager with current tuning (raid or M+)

Ravager is kind of whatever on its own, but Unhinged is really good

[plucky obsidian]

See that is what I thought but saw some high rated furry wars showing slayer and running ravager on raiderio so wanted to double check as I'm new to war :]

Tyty

[winter shoal]

I think raider.io only snapshots when they log out

[sour frigate]

furry wars

okay

[winter shoal]

So if they log out in raid spec or something it can be misleading

[sour frigate]

and yeah u should watch actual key completed not a profile

[plucky obsidian]

You can sort by what they had on during a specific key

Which is what I was doing, but not sure if it's accurate on how it reads choice nodes.

[winter shoal]

Playing slayer in high keys is questionable on its own, but playing slayer and using ravager in high keys is so unreasonable that it seems like an issue with the site

[plucky obsidian]

That's what i was checking! :]

Dont wanna go in with bad info. U guys r the shit.

[winter shoal]

🫡

The wowhead guide should have all the specs you need for the most part

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

[plucky obsidian]

Yep read over it 4 times and that's why that made me do a double take

[smoky vale]

@sudden tusk the 3 wave got me

you were right

[compact knot]

can you link me this wa

[rancid vortex]

QQ should i be trying to weave in a bloodthirst in between each rampage because of reckless abadon?

[compact knot]

nvm i found the weakaura

[smoky vale]

https://wago.io/X1Z8dOrv8

[compact knot]

yes, one bloodthirst and raging blow minimum

atleast for single target thats what you do

[rancid vortex]

i assume takes even more of a backseat if the build uses anger management

[compact knot]

bloodbath, rampage, and raging blow all do very similar damage
(bloodbath and crushing blow are the upgraded versions of bloodthirst and raging blow, you get 1 use of both bloodbath and crushing blow when you use rampage, typically you will crushing blow -> bloodbath -> rampage)

[compact knot]

if you play AM you just spam rampage whenever you can push it

and AM is only kinda good for m+, its bad ST damage

AM very good on mythic ovinax though, but thats the only place that talent is seriously taken

[rancid vortex]

ty ty, even though its pretty zug there seems to be a fair amount of nuance in playstyle and build for fury, more than i expected, theres a ton of variation int he raid fights i see

[compact knot]

ehh the variation is all in slayer strike rng imo

atleast for me lmao

sometimes i get extremely lucky and slayer strikes procs a lot and i can bladestorm 6 times and spear 3 times

[rancid vortex]

up until this week because i hadnt played a ton i thought people played slayer in m+ and thought it was just bad cos your mini CD never lined up because your CDR cant keep up for the downtime

had no idea thane was a thing, im glad i went and looked, it plays so much nicer

only really noticed because of what people were playing on court

[compact knot]

slayer struggles cause you want to use the mini odyns and bladestorm and then it causes desync because you get bad rng or downtime, while its burst is way higher, thanes consistent damage is what is nice for keys where mobs live longer.

[rancid vortex]

and you ALWAYS basically get to mini CD

[compact knot]

well kinda?

we dont really have a mini cd with the thane build

afaik most dont run odyns

its just thunder blast

but thats not really a mini cd, more of a rotational proc

(word i made up)

[rancid vortex]

the one on archons runs odyns, im not savy enough with fury to tell if thats bait or not

[compact knot]

its not bait

you can run it or you can drop odyns and pick up 2/2 vicious contempt, either build works and more depends on what you want to do

if you run with the same group and do higher keys and have 2 people that already blast aoe like a enh shaman or ret paladin or ele shaman (or anything else that does a lot of aoe), then you probably run 2/2 vc, in a pug id just go odyns though.

[sour frigate]

I want to pull a 20kk burst can u share a build?

[modest condor]

sure, just reroll to shaman

[sour frigate]

Fair

[modest condor]

or use the little "reset details" button after the tank has set up the pull in necrotic wake

[eternal sundial]

DrJay

[smoky vale]

HOLY FUCK

QUEEN ANSUREK IS SO FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love raiding

im attacking tuesday 10pm

mark your calendars

[junior gale]

[smoky vale]

nah unironically

its so fun

I LOVE RAIDING

[river reef]

new raid doesnt look very melee friendly, does it?

[junior gale]

nope

nothing new

[lapis shadow]

The hopelessness of knowing you won't get C.E but is still close

[sour tundra]

The season 2 dungeons are also AWFUL for melee.

[dense elbow]

Not that bad, like, I get somewhat annoyed. But they made so changes for the better

At least I get uptime in most situations. Bird boss doesn't require me to jump at it, and so on

[summer quail]

No more than usual honestly

[dense elbow]

Can't blame ppl if they only bring ranged if able tho

[smoky vale]

I understand that but I got to fill and almost killed with a different guild

[slim coral]

[undone flower]

100% agree

[lapis shadow]

I'm looking to fill for a friends guild that clear mythic in 2 hours

[next ruin]

@dense elbow since we're talking about of vs vc, do you still pick of with am thane sometimes?

[sour frigate]

i do

[dense elbow]

No, if I want the AoE burst, I play Slayer. OF MT just doesn't pack any value in that bought window

[next ruin]

Be it ra or am slayer

[fading sky]

Of ni matta what

I wanna burst so i slay

[next ruin]

I thought you were speaking Finnish for a second

[fading sky]

Haha, its called

Fat fingers

• phone

[dense elbow]

I play AM slayer, I even do 45 sec roar atm. Then you get OF with avatar and roar mods

It almost does damage

Almost

Best we can get

[next ruin]

What do you drop for 45s roar

[sour frigate]

1 point from armor to strength thingy

[dense elbow]

^

[next ruin]

Ty guys, until what key level would that slayer build be on top if I have ballers with me? 12?

[dense elbow]

Slayer works as long the tank pulls around your 1.5m burst. If you get those weird pulls where they 'wait' and chain after you pop, you will do badly either way.
If you want to play efficiently, I say skip Slayer already at a +2. But, it works totally fine for myself in a 14-15.
I accepted I can't beat the real classes either way

If you as a warrior is top DPS, then just know you play with shitters

[earnest canyon]

which would you say are "the real classes"

dps in M+ i mena

[dense elbow]

Blue, red, pink, yellow and green. The whole fruitsalad

[next ruin]

Alright I'll stick with am thane then

[earnest canyon]

lol

Hunter is good? I havent played my hunter in ages cos I could never get groups above 10

[unreal onyx]

Dark green or light green tho

Or grass green

[dense elbow]

Why not both

[unreal onyx]

Throw em all in (except brown)

You dont want brown on your fruit

[dense elbow]

^ true and real

[earnest canyon]

im still low ilevel, but I hit 80 yesterday and fury feels like im doing a lot of damage until I look at the damage meter.....there are a lot of numbers going everywhere lol

[dense elbow]

I say this often, and will say so again. Just in case a civi sees this:
Play what you have the most fun with. Performance diff doesn't matter for warrior

[unreal onyx]

Fury fuck fun

• every raid needs a warrior for buff

[dense elbow]

Super fun, just nerfed to the ground and back

[unreal onyx]

One spot is always safe

[dense elbow]

And we never tank in raid, that is red and green. Lets go, DPS spot

[earnest canyon]

green? brewmaster is a good tank? I never see them

[unreal onyx]

Or red and pink tanks

But always red

[dense elbow]

Brew is just super solid raid tank

[unreal onyx]

We‘re progging queen with red and pink rn

[summer crater]

Brew is often in first kills

[unreal onyx]

I hope we can kill her this or next week

[river reef]

mostly bc ww is often times shit

[dense elbow]

Mw been fine recently tho

[unreal onyx]

MW giga spotheal

[earnest canyon]

MW is all I see....and sometimes they mess up not healing as they are too busy trying to out dps the dps lmao

[timber harness]

Anyone know if theres a vendor for this cologne thing

[dense elbow]

Another versa buff? Come ob

How much bonus Vers is it now, 12k?

[timber harness]

I mean i had it on my ret randomly and wanted to get it on my warrior but couldnt find it :(

[dense elbow]

Just search it up, use the id in Google and WoWhead

[earnest canyon]

I feel like vers is a scam....when I was levelling I had like 11% vers just from gear due to quest rewards etc, and it souinds like loads of extra damage but it never plays out like that

[sour frigate]

Ig its the event thingy

[earnest canyon]

at least its better than on hunter though

[timber harness]

Ye but it showed some outdated stuff from like 2016

[sour frigate]

🤓

[dense elbow]

Don't forget your raidbuffs from followe dung, the mistletoe, the 2k from the dragon, the aurabuff from the bloom, and all that cheezt cheats

[sour frigate]

[dense elbow]

Can you still buff yourself with the MC bonus 10% buff? Probably

This game man

[earnest canyon]

wrong server to ask in, I know, but i cba joining rogue one for 1 question:
what poison do rogues for everyday use (I know its atrophic for raids or whatever).....is it wound or instant?

[sour frigate]

Mc?

Instant

[dense elbow]

Mind control

[sour frigate]

At least sub does

[timber harness]

Also dont think its vers only, theres like main stat as well. Seems to just drop from killing boss in the valentine thing

[earnest canyon]

yeah i read them all and instant sounds best for just levelling, thanks

[sour frigate]

Muti has that empowered poison or whatever

Havent touch it since df

[earnest canyon]

i want to go assass, but i dont have 2 daggers lmao

so combat it is

[dense elbow]

They really should make it so entering m+, just clears everything, all auras - all of it

[plucky obsidian]

As combat run instant and mind numbing

*OUTLAW

[earnest canyon]

how do you use 2 poisons? It seems to be only one now

i havent played my warrior or rogue in years, so i got warrior to 80 (very fun)....doing rogue now

[sour frigate]

U run 1 damage poison and 1 utility

[undone flower]

Ass plays the mortal and a second damage one no ?

[sour frigate]

Ye

[undone flower]

Instant poison is for the spec that don’t play around poison

[sour frigate]

Amplify poison or whatever

[earnest canyon]

how? it just replaces instant

[sour frigate]

Nah

[undone flower]

The anti heal is a damage poison

If you didn’t know

Or they changed it

[earnest canyon]

hmm maybe its cos i picked a non utility one?

yeah that was it....man im dumb

i thought you could pick any of the 4

[undone flower]

It’s 1-1 or 2-2 if you play with the 4 poison talent

[earnest canyon]

ok thanks

[undone flower]

If I remember it’s the talent in the middle capstone

[smoky vale]

nice good luck

[smoky vale]

the best part is not having to do most initial prog

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/morning-sugar-gif-8808479179454996277

[smoky vale]

heck we were making better progress than elusive

[slim coral]

hell yeah bud

[undone flower]

I play for the pain

[smoky vale]

gm

[smoky vale]

I was alive in the deep p3 pull until first weblades...

[undone flower]

I was alive in p3 but the pull we kill her

[smoky vale]

I legit couldnt escape

I also heard the rl in the group say "x you are not allowed to do damage during the intermission"

[undone flower]

I also had trust issues so even I was not assigned for essence I was waiting next to it

[slim coral]

[next mirage]

Hi all, I test PTR 11.1 ... please replace Spear by Necrolord Banner, buff UF and do some things for OF and OS. ^^"

[undone flower]

Im in dstance for the full intermission

Also I’m evoker next season YIPPI

[smoky vale]

why

are your healers disabled

[undone flower]

Guild needs one (still dps)

I will be free on my warrior to gear it for tank spec

[smoky vale]

nah gg

but are you sitting in dstance

[undone flower]

I prefer pushing buttons in dstance in intermission than watching my own reflection for 5 sec

[smoky vale]

maybe

[undone flower]

And I didn’t say but my cds was assigned on first platform

[smoky vale]

?????

[undone flower]

And I couldn’t skip grab with bladestorm bc guardian would just kill me

[smoky vale]

cursed ass raid

[warm crag]

cding first platform is fine

esp if u clear p2 wayy too quickly

[undone flower]

It is fine but it’s so weird to do it when you can’t cd when there is the grab

[warm crag]

just leap or walk out early or

not like you're in a rush in that phase

[radiant plank]

Intervene

[clever belfry]

idk i just press space

[smoky vale]

spongus

[warm crag]

yes you can or is your druid a heat seeking missile that stacks on your and for some reason kills you when you have infinite tank with er bladestorm

[smoky vale]

how do i onow if we push plat 2 too fast

[undone flower]

I meant skipping the grab is fine, it’s just that it’s when they are stacked together for good duration

[warm crag]

do you have cds for first adds in p3

i didnt say platform 2 i meant phase 2

[smoky vale]

i got it as they spawned

like

[clever belfry]

then ure not too fast 👍

[smoky vale]

at that exact global the cast finished

[clever belfry]

ive not had cds before they were about to die in while there

[azure holly]

is it worth using OF and/or TR over rage cap?

[candid nymph]

Noob question here, I'm trying fury in some m+ (normally a tank) using the reckless abandon MT build from icyveins. Should I be holding recklessness/avatar or is it generally not worth it?

My guess is that in higher keys where things live longer to just send them on CD, but lower stuff probably worth holding - is that right?

[smoky vale]

yes

[candid nymph]

Apols if that's covered in the pins

[radiant plank]

cds on cd

[smoky vale]

cds on cd is easier

adn you can learn oh this pack dies too fast etc

but cds on cd is ethical

[radiant plank]

cds on cd is also nearly always better in a pug

[candid nymph]

Hehe yeah, kind of know which ones die quickly from tanking, but I've learned that pug tanks often do....very different routes to what I do, for some reason

But I guess DPS is just relax for me, so I won't stress too much 🙂

Thanks for response

[azure holly]

same for Thunder Blast?

[slim coral]

yes

[azure holly]

is it worth using OF to get enraged? i.e not enraged

assuming you can't rampage

[slim coral]

yes

[radiant plank]

@mossy fox Great job sandbagging fury on most recent video. Check your paypal tonight

[smoky vale]

@mossy fox Great job sandbagging fury on most recent video. Check your paypal tonight

@radiant plank how do i filter out cyrce's circlet when looking at dps

[slim coral]

@mossy fox Great job sandbagging fury on most recent video. Check your paypal tonight

[mossy fox]

Ty guys

[radiant plank]

@smoky vale idk

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TwzLf7qt61ZX89m4?fight=15&type=damage-done look at the ring damage btw

1/10 of our total dps

[coarse nest]

Watches fury rookery
Despair

[remote bobcat]

me legit watching it rn

clueless~1

[gleaming siren]

tbf you dont really gain over an extended period of time unless you do the suicide at the end

It just looks like more cause damage proc vs stats

[smoky vale]

@mossy fox hi what do i buy with my Antique Bronze Bullion, which fire ring, or trinket or do i upgrade my axe??????????????????????

[mossy fox]

[storm rune]

@smoky vale Vote fury S2 set

[smoky vale]

looking back at the vods to make the playlist

and im just looking at the titles

[mossy fox]

perfect example key to ask for fury buffs

[gleaming siren]

Please bugfix Destruction already

[mossy fox]

is enha dps a bug or a feature

[gleaming siren]

feature

[remote bobcat]

feature

[gleaming siren]

blue class has been chosen this expansion

Destro DPS is a bug (a bunch of it)

[coarse nest]

“Bring whatever you want as long as you have an enhancer”

[remote bobcat]

it's always light blue, dark blue or purple

[gleaming siren]

tbf

[remote bobcat]

all 3 colors include blue

[gleaming siren]

Purple has been genuinely good in one out of the four last tiers

[undone flower]

A lot of colors include blue

[remote bobcat]

stop nitpicking

[undone flower]

Blizzard I have enough blue

IT IS ENOUGh

[sonic shoal]

What is that table

[undone flower]

RGB 255

[sonic shoal]

Ohhh right, thought it was warrior representation in keys or something

[undone flower]

Nah it has a tank spec so it is higher than 100 warriors in +12 and up

[sonic shoal]

The lucky ones who don’t get declined or push their own keys, I see I see

[azure holly]

what order do you guys use cds in AoE openers?

does this order seem good:
Reck -> Ravager -> Rampage -> Avatar -> Thunder Blast -> Roar -> OF

or would you perhaps throw in OF before the rampage?

[undone flower]

We don’t play with avatar doing OF anymore ? I didn’t play fury in m+ for quite a time

[winter shoal]

No, OF stinks

Well, you still play it as slayer

But slayer also kinda stinks in anything but low keys

[undone flower]

I never really played slayer in m+ I prefer thane personally (gameplay wise)

[winter shoal]

Thane plays VC over OF generally

[azure holly]

wait but the icy veins guide has it in the AoE build?

the recommended mountain thane one

[mossy fox]

you can play whichever, the difference is minimal

[winter shoal]

VC more single target, OF more aoe. Imo though your contribution to the group is your prio/boss dam rather than your aoe anyways

[azure holly]

but to bring it back, is anything wrong with my opener otherwise?

should I move OF, is there anything else that's out of place?

[winter shoal]

And then you lose to enhance on boss dam anyways sadeg

[mossy fox]

OF version has more burst and should give you a slightly higher overall, but non-OF has more ST

[undone flower]

That’s why I played VC on silken, the AoE is just padding

[gleaming talon]

Well that was a wild weekend

[thick fossil]

OF is still decent in like 10s-12s. Anywhere you're pulling big packs.

[gleaming talon]

Got duelist, dropped to 1900 because I got too high and wanted to play my warrior. Got back to 2100 in three shuffles sober 🤣

[sinful kiln]

way too easy to tunnel vision as fury when stoned lmao

[gleaming talon]

But it was so much fun

10/10 will do again

[feral ivy]

I just watched a video about how next seasons keys are easier.. why it easy atm the only thing that’s a pain and should be nerfed is the 15 sec death timer. It’s now 7% harder instead of 10% and the affixes are WAY later in keys than now

[coarse nest]

Keys will be exactly the same besides for the dungeon number going up

The max gear* rewards will just be easier to get

[feral ivy]

😦 faster gearing = faster season being dead imo

[coarse nest]

I have the opposite opinion

Faster gearing means longer season because more people are willing to play multiple toons

I’d also like to log in and select the bis gear from a vendor and just play so maybe I’m goofy lol

(Ofc that’d never actually happen)

[feral ivy]

That’s pretty much fated season and fated seasons are DEAD but it’s new raid so idk but my thinking is that they don’t need to touch m+ other than that 15 sec affix

[granite crown]

Gearing isn't necessarily faster as the crest cap and availability of myth track gear is still the same. Just faster for a baseline and for alts, which imo is great

You reach a reasonable level of gear faster, but the max cap just as quick.

[azure holly]

is the icy veins guide outdated btw? I didn't see any mention of the weapon oils on there

and stuff like MoP Remix is still in there also, in the rotation

[smoky vale]

^

[slim coral]

@young swan I just played shaman I'm pissed at how warrior is now

[young swan]

yeah

[azure holly]

I went the opposite to fill our warrior leaving

[coarse nest]

Of course! They only double our dps!

“This is fine”

[smoky vale]

@slim coral

get ready

[coarse nest]

Pick me pick me!

Kill pull was wiffed

I need to fix blue

[smoky vale]

holy cranka

i attack ansurek tomorow

[coarse nest]

Godspeed!

Fun boss for us

[heavy sparrow]

Honestly, thunder clap needs to do much more damage

[coarse nest]

[heavy sparrow]

Like probably 50% more to 100%

Well maybe not quite that much

35 to 50%

Also up the target cap on cleave

8 should be the standard, but at least 6

[coarse nest]

8 like everybody else

Or we double everyone else at only 5

[vague cedar]

agreed 8 cap is needed

[smoky vale]

@slim coral do i do it

[slim coral]

do what

[smoky vale]

the funny boost

[slim coral]

do you bud

[delicate flume]

What’s the rotation for mythic plus? Mountain thane

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

Select the talents you have on the page there

[red berry]

having two odyns is still important for our AoE particularly concerning larger packs

so losing that is

rough. fury AoE is going to feel rough

[thick fossil]

Not really, at least not in a 14 or 15.

I rarely run OF anymore unless I'm doing 10s.

[red berry]

when fights last long enough to come back around, yeah

but even then

[thick fossil]

It's a minor difference.

VC x2 on Ingra though. That is glorious.

[smoky vale]

i prob get ce with the guild im filling

want to watch me play hearthstone after i study and apply for a job

🙂

[gleaming talon]

Why work when you can wow

[delicate flume]

What should I even be running for mplus ? Talent wise

[winter shoal]

What key level

[delicate flume]

I would say low keys I just dinged and back from a long break and then higher keys as well. I usually get there fast, to higher key levels

[whole yacht]

Slayer

[delicate flume]

But it would be nice to know a build for both and have somewhere to start

[whole yacht]

Slayer is best for short fights in keys. You'll squeak out higher damage. Mountain thane becomes better when things live longer.

[dense elbow]

Just try both m+ builds in the pins, then play what you fancy

Both slayer and Thane works for anything

[whole yacht]

(I haven't played in a while. So if things have changed someone correct me)

[whole yacht]

Anything works for anything if you're good enough.

Could play smf and out perform some of these shitters out here.

[dense elbow]

Well, that is going a bit too far. But generally I can agree

[coarse nest]

RA slayer is easier to do damage with I think

I like that thane is passively tankier though

Or you can be proactive with the mini rally on IV

[whole yacht]

i agree with that

[dense elbow]

Just do AM slayer, save yourself the headache of bad RNG delaying storm

[whole yacht]

just reroll off warrior tbh

[coarse nest]

I WILL NOT!

[dense elbow]

That would be the most output efficient thing to do, and time saving

[whole yacht]

stubborn

[dense elbow]

Always fun doing 2m, and shaman does 3m overall

I don't feel like a handicap

[whole yacht]

and youre trying twice as hard to maintain damage

[coarse nest]

Never submit to the fotm disease!

[whole yacht]

whoa whoa

[coarse nest]

Be badass warrior one trick always

[whole yacht]

no one said fotm

just walk up the dps list 2-3 places.

[dense elbow]

I don't mind being 5-10% behind Ret. I can deal with being that much of a weight. But close to 50% or more?

...

[coarse nest]

33% behind enhancer man

Quick math

[dense elbow]

This season is a PuG season, no need to shackle friends

Bother randos instead that you often beat on meters

[thick fossil]

@mossy fox Man, that 13 Rook was depressing.

[dense elbow]

Diff between myself 2m to 3m, is 1m. 1m is 50% of 2m. 1+1 is 2. 2+2 is four. Quick maths

[whole yacht]

2 plus 2 that's 4 minus 1 that's 3 quick maffs

[coarse nest]

33.33333% x3 is what?

[dense elbow]

I don't mind if other classes got better ramp burst

[covert blaze]

bro typing math in fury chat

[coarse nest]

I am ape

Ape do no math

[whole yacht]

99.99999999999%

[dense elbow]

99.999, your number is 0.0000x1 off. Mine is not

I win again

[coarse nest]

Ffffff

https://tenor.com/view/rage-comics-table-flip-gif-25874129

[dense elbow]

[coarse nest]

Blasphemy!

[dense elbow]

Think most agree tho, 5% behind is ok. You can justify that with AP shout and copium. 30% or more? That is when you just pack it up and leave

[coarse nest]

30% behind in overall is really really down bad

Assuming mostly optimal play

[dense elbow]

... If only we had heroism

[coarse nest]

Please no

Remove all utilities and give 400% aura buff

Ez

[dense elbow]

If they unnerf Roar, BS and OF today, we will actually be just a be on par with Ret. Let's 🙏

Ofc, we will pad more in raid.. the horror

But think rings and exploits ruin the logs more than that either way

God I hate raid based balance that is there to protect egos

[gleaming talon]

How much harder do I need to press the buttons based on your math?

[dense elbow]

Depends, do you PuG m+ or?

[gleaming talon]

No I only PvP

[dense elbow]

HueHue

Lets say another 100%, for those 8m rampages

[coarse nest]

Oh what to do in pvp that’s easy!

Accept que

Charge first guy you see

Press every cooldown you have

Die

Leave

Do it again

[smoky vale]

real

[coarse nest]

[dense elbow]

You don't use CDs, you noob. OF nerfed in PvP to the ground, on top of baseline nerfs...
You stack up 5x SS, you spin for another 50% mid, you avatar and then do 4-5m ramp damage

You dab on the corpse and go next

PvP is so scuffed but if we had PvP mods in PvE we would actually do damage

[gleaming talon]

If you not enjoying the little things in life like PvP you taking the game far to seriously

It is my swore duty to flag plant every non warrior who isn’t a R1 supergod

And I do it for you!

[thick fossil]

You either kill or be killed. Ret out there crying they're too slow / can't stay on target.
Either way, PvP has been trash balanced since.... um always?

[restive granite]

guys guys guys

on ansurek do you send your bladestorm on cd? if were playing no webs at all

[clever belfry]

you can? it kinda doesnt matter

[restive granite]

aside of making sure to have it for adds in p3

[clever belfry]

u kinda wanna bladestorm 2nd drag in intermission anyway

[restive granite]

yeah that too

[clever belfry]

if you wanna leap it instead uhh ig sure if u hard send on cd you can maybe eek another in before the place u wanna use it in p2

[restive granite]

tyty

[clever belfry]

i frankly wouldnt bother tho

having dmg for roots even if youre supposed to immune all is good

in case someone griefs

:)

[restive granite]

btw whats the wrest baiting thing during p2