that is nuts
#fury
smoky vale
if you are available box
south kayak
EU?
smoky vale
isnt ptr both
south kayak
lmao
smoky vale
was in bed with dog
south kayak
ok
young swan
was in bed with dog
twins
sinful spoke
was in bed with dog
AYO?@?2
south kayak
clever path
I posted this https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/warrior-rework/559789
Good take, but once again the OP's post is about numerical tuning without proposal for concreate paradigm-shift solutions.
smoky vale
south kayak
That is my post 
sinful spoke
DAMN
south kayak
gg
hardy bluff
bro just get tinder
smoky vale
gg
main dragon
Did tww add ssomething that lets you increase your size?
smoky vale
this is th eonly group
south kayak
F
clever path
That is my post <:critcake:984549832511344640>
Ion wont listen. Ion is an attorney by trade.
Elitist jerks are ones who are obsessed with numerical optimisation.
They forget about fun part of gameplay, since numbers can always be tuned.
fast mural
since when is ion the warrior dev ?
clever path
since when is ion the warrior dev ?
I never said that he is, but he IS the one who calls the shots.
hardy bluff
Did tww add ssomething that lets you increase your size?
warrior colossus spec
clever path
Competent warrior enjoyer cant get into position of power/change without Ion's approval.
This is a typical corpo-rat case.
Glass ceiling and all that.
fast mural
is this what brainrot does to you ?
winter shoal
What is bro yapping about
south kayak
lmfao
fast mural
ion looking over class devs shoulder being like "hey nerf fury again its funny af"
south kayak
that guy is perma schizo posting
winter shoal
Like yes business higher-ups largely determine priority of where to allocate dev effort, but I don't think Ion himself reworked titans torment bud
fast mural
south kayak
Like yes business higher-ups largely determine priority of where to allocate dev...
He specifically went in the room and said, change Titan's TOrment
Mr John Blizzard himself
winter shoal
He specifically went in the room and said, change Titan's TOrment
It's true I was there. I've worked at blizzard for 7 years btw
south kayak
It's true I was there. I've worked at blizzard for 7 years btw
I was the breast milk jar
can confirm
fast mural
isnt ion a resto shaman
why is that not meta yet
clever path
Junior Dev - Hey Senior Dev I am testing this great warrior class redesign, do you want to look?
Senior Dev - Sure. Looks cool but now it is not our our main priority we need to tune number for patch xyz, etc. I will talk with Higher up to see if we can do something. We need to learn to compromise together with our player base, they cant have it all, etc.
Ion - No rework, tune numbers, chop chop.
clever path
nobody like warrior at blizz headquarters
Are they insecure soy drinkers?
Plunderstorm dev and MoP remix lead quit.
clever path
they laid off the warrior dev branch
Are you saying that now we will get pala's leftowers?
fast mural
we have been getting that since DF
well actually the other way around
ret rework copy pasted warrior talents and made them yellow
maybe thats where the warrior dev went
clever path
We need South-East Asian themed expansion powered by H-1B dev efforts. This will surely fix Warrior specs.
Or better yet - lets hook Elon Musk on WoW ... just to see him run Maze +13 in full mazed gear.
spare mantle
Is there updated sim numbers with ptr buffs to see a number increase ?
summer crater
It's true I was there. I've worked at blizzard for 7 years btw
Oh hey Dave what are you doing out here?
winter shoal
Junior Dev - Hey Senior Dev I am testing this great warrior class redesign, do y...
Genuine question, do you or have you worked in any sort of software development job?
willow cradle
It's true I was there. I've worked at blizzard for 7 years btw
And yet you still can't cast an Ice Nova or a rank 1 Blizzard smh
winter shoal
And yet you still can't cast an Ice Nova or a rank 1 Blizzard smh
Do you see my mana rn? What am I supposed to do
slim coral
Whatever you want to talk about big dawg
clever path
https://tenor.com/view/piratesoftware-pirate-roach-fingerwag-nuh-uh-gif-95819874...
"second puberty" aka voice modulation software.
south kayak
BM is doing some unethical damage on PTR
what the fuck
5m burst on st
and always dealing aoe damage
clever path
BM is doing some unethical damage on PTR
winter shoal
I think it's turbo bugged
hardy bluff
how big is ovinax trinket for us
if you play it optimally its very good
sour frigate
how big is ovinax trinket for us
Its good statstick
rotund ginkgo
currently got 626 transmitter and 639 sacbrood+shard
so i guess i just keep those?
covert blaze
how big is ovinax trinket for us
not worth it if you have 639 sac imo
rotund ginkgo
real
also hi babe
back from burnout
maybe ill try to get CE
:3
raiding tmrw after almost 1+ month of not touching game
i guess its socket gaming?
even tho i dont rly need socket
rocky furnace
Can you still trade the tokens for gold? 😂
willow cradle
Do you see my mana rn? What am I supposed to do
smoky vale
<@335579026259312641> = gala ??
gleaming talon
south kayak
I figured out why BM is broken on ptr
thick fossil
Pet coefficient has an extra decimal place?
thick fossil
I hate all of them.
thick fossil
Onlyfangs
thick fossil
It's silly, drama = content = clicks.
thick fossil
How was Resto Druid doing on the PTR?
smoky vale
hard to tell when were getting near oneshot every pack
so either dogshit or dungeon was overtuned
bit of both
thick fossil
I don't feel bad for em, since they were meta for so long but not seeing em at all is weird.
slim coral
https://tenor.com/view/bears-fast-speedy-gif-4915846
I found the bear
Can we buff thane ST please?
thick fossil
I had a nightmare the other day of being out in the field and having a bear walk into my tent.
winter shoal
I hate all of them.
People aren't allowed to have fun in MY world of warcraft
south kayak
https://tenor.com/view/animal-vs-human-animal-attack-bear-gif-14527012
How it felt as an arms
that bear ALONE dealt more damage than me
lmao
let me test BM
To see if it's actually true
thick fossil
People aren't allowed to have fun in MY world of warcraft
They can have fun, but it's just weird that they're all about that drama clicks.
@smoky vale I'm done work for the day.
https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-mythic-plus-mythic-dungeon-vulpera-gif-14795609251194413487
thick fossil
I'll give ya a hand
smoky vale
na
thick fossil
LMAO
sour frigate
modest condor
so he's gonna invite some people and then leave the group or?
sour frigate
31 groups active on eu
smoky vale
I need 1 more quest
smoky vale
so he's gonna invite some people and then leave the group or?
yeah idk mega ego
sour frigate
not always
sour frigate
I dunno i can perform for title but im 3200 scrub
sour frigate
1st floor of gaming
sour frigate
3000 is 1%
3100+
thick fossil
smoky vale
sour frigate
i forgor na is actually good region in wow unlike league :tf:
stuck mason
sour frigate
sour frigate
Yes he told it
smoky vale
trekgob unleashed
dense elbow
covert blaze
NA sucks
south kayak
real
dense elbow
Nah, NA is just more free to do what they want
sinful spoke
imagine pushing keys during this dogshit season
thick fossil
<@218217312346570752> did you get into a key
Yeah, 14 GB. Tank totally inted it by pulling the first 4 packs together.
sinful spoke
i got 2500 and just started doign my weekly 10s
unreal onyx
dense elbow
Fewer players who do tank level dps
smoky vale
just hits differently
sour frigate
yeah current 10s are just fiesta
sour frigate
12s too frankly
dense elbow
12 SV
smoky vale
private logger
sinful spoke
theyre dogshit dont kniow why even private log
sinful spoke
smoky vale
er word
sinful spoke
i wish i had the motivation to gear my enhance and warrior alt
winter shoal
im washed went from 1386 in amir to 4995 in np
Surely you died on brood and kyveza right
sinful spoke
Surely you died on brood and kyveza right
on kyveza ya
brood no
the parses are giga inflated for that boss
like
winter shoal
like
I went from a 51 to a 90 by malding at my raid for padding instead of doing boss dam (we had multiple 1% wipes)
nocturne salmon
quiet yew
Are the ptr buffs enough to compete with others in mplus?
oblique trail
Yesn't
quiet yew
Can we be happy about it?
misty tangle
Yesn't
oblique trail
Generally any buff tends to be a positive thing
Would instead just wait and not think about this until we're a week or closer to the season actually launching
quiet yew
Yes
oblique trail
Will we be as good as Shamans are now? Unlikely. Will we be comparable to some of the best specs? Perhaps
oblique trail
But neither Fury nor Arms has been deemed a meta spec in the past many years, so I wouldn't expect that to change, if that's what you hope for
jagged swift
hey team, fury or arms? 😄
jagged swift
never haha 😄
winter shoal
Unironically though, it's usually the case that one spec is better for some fights/dungeons and the other is better for others, so it's good to be able to play both (and having gear for both)
ornate sable
Hi folks,
One thing i'm struggling to do with AM on broodtwister is making sure I still have rampage buff active when casting rampage.
Like multiple times during the fight I see whirlwind stacks are out, i cast whirlwind, rampage falls off then i cast rampage.
Someone have tips for avoiding this? I'm pretty sure im doing something rotationally wrong?
oblique trail
When you say Rampage buff do you mean Enrage
ornate sable
uhhh yes sorry
oblique trail
You don't need Enrage to be active when using Rampage
The Enrage from Rampage buffs itself
oblique trail
The only exception to this is Bloodthirst/Bath not buffing its own cast
(Maybe Onslaught? Been forever since using it)
inner shadow
oblique trail
Oh then I think im fine then?
The important thing for Broodtwister and AM, is making sure you have Reck ready for every egg set, and not using CDs while unenraged (which can happen if you get a bit overwhelmed with mechanics)
summer quail
(Maybe Onslaught? Been forever since using it)
onslaught buffs itself
inner shadow
did i predict it?
oblique trail
right
oblique trail
<a:pogox:1326809946997919805>
They didn't remove it, just moved it to +12s
oblique trail
Of course
ornate sable
The important thing for Broodtwister and AM, is making sure you have Reck ready ...
I have 100% bladestormed without enrage active multiple times because I was overwhelmed.
I've macroed rampage into the recklessness cd to try and avoid even if this is not optimal, avoiding worst case for me i think is worth.
fast mural
you do need every dungeon at that level tho
winter shoal
@ornate sable are you talking about mythic brood or n/hc?
oblique trail
I have 100% bladestormed without enrage active multiple times because I was over...
This is a really bad solution to the issue if you ask me
inner shadow
yo BLIZZARD actually listened? goddamn
oblique trail
You don't want to always use Reck the moment it's ready on Broodtwister, so you'd end up using it during downtime, when you'd need to save it
fast mural
yo BLIZZARD actually listened? goddamn
only took them 2 expacs
ornate sable
<@125386884330291200> are you talking about mythic brood or n/hc?
I'm doing mythic atm, but my personal mechincal skill level isn't great, kyveza took long long time for me to not get myself murdered to daggers/orbs.
inner shadow
only took them 2 expacs
better late than never
winter shoal
I have 100% bladestormed without enrage active multiple times because I was over...
For brood, much better to macro reck into bs than reck into rampage
fast mural
orbs ?
ornate sable
You don't want to always use Reck the moment it's ready on Broodtwister, so you'...
No no, my seperate cd for reck has rampage at the end of it. Then i press bladestorm keybind after
inner shadow
For brood, much better to macro reck into bs than reck into rampage
whats bs?
fast mural
what kind of strat do you use that you have to dodge orbs on kyvessa
inner shadow
battle shout ? 
oblique trail
No no, my seperate cd for reck has rampage at the end of it. Then i press blades...
I see, still a bit of an inelegant way to solve an issue
ornate sable
I agree :(
oblique trail
But I wouldn't worry too much with having Ramp being the way to Enrage on Broodtwister
fast mural
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHQvuHBDaVk
AI raidleaders soon
inner shadow
Bladestorm sorry
whyt would u macro reck with anything other than ava
inner shadow
AI raidleaders soon
its best mechanic, my zug brain never understood it, we killed it when i got the opposite side phase
oblique trail
It's not 100% optimal, but you can instead use (Reck -> Avatar if ready) -> OF -> Roar -> BS
winter shoal
Brood add spawns are v hectic, I'd recommend spending some time on the aoe dummies building muscle memory so that you don't have to think about your cd order during the fight. Also remember that avatar/of will enrage you with titans torment and titanic rage
winter shoal
whyt would u macro reck with anything other than ava
Because you want to send reck/bs without avatar sometimes on brood
Depending on your lust timing, many people send of/reck/bs on pull and hold ava til 0:45
oblique trail
Adds kinda explode the moment your group is somewhat comfortable on the boss, so it can be a bit overkill to insta send Avatar and OF together, but your job is just killing adds
ornate sable
Hm no?
reck + ava on first adds,
reck on second adds
reck + ava on third adds?
Is this wrong?
oblique trail
Depending on your lust timing, many people send of/reck/bs on pull and hold ava ...
Regardless of lusting on pull or not, I still do this
oblique trail
Hm no?
reck + ava on first adds,
reck on second adds
reck + ava on third adds?...
This is correct
Well
"Correct"
There are two ways to use your CDs
winter shoal
Regardless of lusting on pull or not, I still do this
If you delay ava til 0:45 it's up for lust on first eggs of third platform 
oblique trail
Using Avatar on first eggs is more add damage, using Avatar on pull and then alternating that way is more boss damage
oblique trail
Some groups just have way too much add damage, and can benefit from more boss damage
I.e some groups have 3 Fury, while it's not ideal
oblique trail
If you delay ava til 0:45 it's up for lust on first eggs of third platform <:yep...
Haven't lusted at 3rd cannister in months, so I don't know if people still do this for prog
I'd imagine with current gear + raid buff, you don't need to lust that late and can benefit more from pull/1st eggs
winter shoal
Haven't lusted at 3rd cannister in months, so I don't know if people still do th...
My guild did but yeah that was a couple months back
magic flint
whats easy way to get weapons for fury switching from prot?
smoky vale
siege has 2 2hs
covert blaze
whats easy way to get weapons for fury switching from prot?
craft
unreal onyx
I didn't think ppl would not even have 30k gold in 2025
smoky vale
i am ppl
unreal onyx
noway
unreal onyx
I thought I was broke with 650k
dense elbow
Everyone on PTR telling me to buy the weapons to do damage. Don't tell me it another tier of "get the weapon, or do no damage" :'/
smoky vale
yarp
sinful spoke
how much are the mats to craft 2 swords
rwhat server
if ur na a52 ill ake for u just get mats
sinful spoke
I thought I was broke with 650k
nah im broke i went from 2m to 30k
leveling professions at the start of patch and then brutosaur
unreal onyx
I don't need weaps
sinful spoke
oh i thought thats why u were asking
unreal onyx
gio is the broke man
covert blaze
i was getting flamed in aug for not having enchants
my guy just do world quests or something
enchants are like 2k
magic flint
ill look into crafting. I don't have many sparks i'm just a few weeks back into the game. but i get something crafted i can continue to upgrade it correct?
magic flint
so what is base ilvl assuming no sparks available?
covert blaze
you need sparks to craft at base ilvl
the crests are the item that bumps the ilvl
you can get sparks easily doing weeklies or m+
dense elbow
That is a very unspesific spesific number
dense elbow
Gio, I am waiting for you in Lion's Pride 
smoky vale
ill meet you there after my key
dense elbow
dense elbow
With aug 
clever belfry
unreal onyx
inner shadow
wowlogs tweakin?
dapper goblet
bitcoin miner website
warm crag
inner shadow
solemn plover
sinful spoke
covert blaze
do you have no health pots
royal oxide
fury stonks looking up at all?
smoky vale
big dam
royal oxide
that on the ptr?
sinful spoke
bro lock in
Bro is rawdogging m+
winter shoal
fury stonks looking up at all?
🔮
covert blaze
Bro is rawdogging m+
bro pushing keys with no enchants or consumes
demonic behavior
thick fossil
<@218217312346570752> Hey that's you
Yeah, and I didn't get PI the whole run. lol
I even had to be the Tremor totem for the first boss >.<
opaque falcon
Fury or arms for season 2?
clever path
🙂
opaque falcon
I vote fury lol
thick fossil
Maybe, Arms looking good but still the same issues.
clever path
hi
covert blaze
gio I need keys on my dk
smoky vale
come do our 13
tardy lark
covert blaze
zhai are you selling tonight
ye
thick fossil
Selling keys or raid?
thick fossil
Oh, damn... wanted to make some coin.
smoky vale
its so doomde
covert blaze
what time do you finihs
not even sure daylight savings stuff got me fucke up
smoky vale
Can you check I have a priest that also needs keys
warm crag
what did he say
dense elbow
Fury confirmed BiS for m+
covert blaze
hi pauck
south kayak
Pauck
fair star
I have 100% bladestormed without enrage active multiple times because I was over...
overwhelmed with fury warrior rotation?
ornate sable
overwhelmed with fury warrior rotation?
No, overwhelmed by boss mechanics
Which is why I play fury lol
fair star
No, overwhelmed by boss mechanics
just b4 bladestorm remember to check if ur enraged
ornate sable
ofc lol
smoky vale
what did he say
hi pauck
warm crag
wtf?
warm crag
just b4 bladestorm remember to check if ur enraged
top 10 advice
nocturne salmon
Pro tip: Kill the enemy until it dies
slim coral
cant even get accepted into a key on ptr
I’ve had no issues
compact knot
i literally have been sitting here for 30 minutes
frank dawn
just b4 bladestorm remember to check if ur enraged
I've sent an unenraged bladestorm once or twice in my time. There is nothing more sad.
dense elbow
cant even get accepted into a key on ptr
No issues here; you remembered to buy all the vendor gear so your ilvl looks pristine for the live-brain folks?
nocturne salmon
imagine going meta comps in ptr lmfao
nocturne salmon
either way destro is nasty on higher keys
summer quail
destro tier did just get halved. no clue how much that matters tho
compact knot
imagine going meta comps in ptr lmfao
nah but actually every key has 2 of the 3 specs i listed atleast
thisisreallyfuckingbad
i put my own key in and nobody signs up i have to be blacklisted or something
nocturne salmon
:c
dense elbow
If it makes you feel any better, I am toping meters in keys I have done after the buff
summer quail
Did you guys post on the forums like we talked about?
no, i would get banned for saying the R word
dense elbow
Anyone had time to test Slayer Vs Thane diffs? Cause I am feeling Slayer is a bump and a half behind now 
summer quail
pretty sure most people are just testing thane, since they think slayer is dead(in keys)
dense elbow
That is fair, tho - slayer prob aint "dead" per se. But I get what you mean
slim coral
no, i would get banned for saying the R word
iron plaza
Did you guys post on the forums like we talked about?
Which one?
dense elbow
All of them, probably
iron plaza
Just spam post Warrior needs help or sth Kappa
unreal onyx
dense elbow
susge
nocturne salmon
no, i would get banned for saying the R word
Ret is banned here?
summer quail
Ret is banned here?
Yes. big dislike for pink man. tho my dislike for aug is far greater
sour frigate
warm crag
devout totem
sour frigate
the f
slim coral
Only one warrior and it’s fury
sour tundra
every tank a prot pally xd
runic cypress
every tank a prot pally xd
Its because it doesnt hurt peoples wrist to play like prot warrior does
Playing prot warrior right now is about the same as being tortured in guantanamo
modest hollow
when is new season live?
spare steppe
i dont see any warriors in that pic
acoustic seal
Its almost as if reworking a spec and giving it always accessible and relevant utility, frequent cooldowns, and an adaptive tree which can do decent aoe and single target will lead to it being immensely popular and well-represented 🤔
gleaming siren
Ret is a great spec to turn brain off and vibe to
smoky vale
Yes. big dislike for pink man. tho my dislike for aug is far greater
🙂
i like pink and dark green people
sour frigate
Playing prot warrior right now is about the same as being tortured in guantanamo
true and real its also bugged
smoky vale
what part is bugged
smoky vale
nice
sour frigate
like lagging have to smash it few times
smoky vale
is iit just your connection to servers
smoky vale
or should i expect the same
sour frigate
dunno try it
sour frigate
brewmaster has same issue with celestial/expell
dense elbow
What is wrong with pwarrior? The heck is going on in here 🔮
smoky vale
made not fun
dense elbow
Oh, PTR, ye it is a bit less fun for sure
dense elbow
ok, sure - tanking isnt for everyone
covert blaze
i would rather play aug on live and ptr
nocturne salmon
id play literally anything than aug
smoky vale
🫃
nocturne salmon
i think dk is cool but the summons are disgusting
smoky vale
???
nocturne salmon
aka they look awful
nocturne salmon
aesthetics are very important to me
smoky vale
nice
covert blaze
aka they look awful
getting updated next patch
nocturne salmon
getting updated next patch
oh really?
i hope they look better then. because right now they all look a bit nasty lol
covert blaze
uh got buffed so hard by the summoning changes
the insta ghoul change is an actually impactful change
nocturne salmon
i mean i get it. they are undead but like
covert blaze
bro wants the ghouls to look like irys
nocturne salmon
can i at least have the option to have summons that look more like the mages you can summon
smoky vale
no i dont care about the undead
its legit
does it crank
and not feel aids to play
nocturne salmon
bro wants the ghouls to look like irys
no
covert blaze
gio typing that after talking about playing aug is crazy
smoky vale
you can change your gargoyle to be a valkyrie
nocturne salmon
smoky vale
gio typing that after talking about playing aug is crazy
i swear it grew on me
just trying to optimize it
idk
covert blaze
you can change your gargoyle to be a valkyrie
nocturne salmon
the main summon and all its glyphs does suck imo
smoky vale
you asking for too much then
covert blaze
the geist looks great imo
craggy sleet
If leave warrior cuz no meta, was ever warrior to begin with?
covert blaze
yeah hard to dislike spell effects ont his class cause it has none
theyre adding a new one and it looks like complete ass
smoky vale
cope
nocturne salmon
plus. breath of sindragosa is my most hated spell lol
covert blaze
nocturne salmon
we have spell reflect
ez
dense elbow
You might not know how it looks like, but you know the sound 
smoky vale
You might not know how it looks like, but you know the sound <:blizzdesign:74570...
dont even know the sound
ii have it turned down
dense elbow
Then you aint a warrior
smoky vale
im perma blasting music
nocturne salmon
i enjoy war
dense elbow
Woha, chill out. Make peace, not war.
smoky vale
25% vol + music blasting
5% volune music at max
nocturne salmon
i dont really have much to complain about tbh
smoky vale
I do
nocturne salmon
just need some more damage and its perfect
humble plover
SR almost makes me wish I didn't want to die
dense elbow
My only comlaint is how Odyn's is kinda weak, and execute is lackluster. Rest is quite to really good
nocturne salmon
execute does suck i can admit that much
dense elbow
Not even the biggest of naysayers will say otherwise
covert blaze
i dont really have much to complain about tbh
me when SD doesnt proc and slayers strike doesnt proc and jugg falls off and SD doesnt proc and slayers strike gets parried and SD doesnt proc and execute gets parried and slayers strike doesnt proc and BS doesnt come back up in time and reap the storm doesnt proc SD doesnt proc and slayers strike doesnt proc and jugg falls off and SD doesnt proc and reap the storm doesnt proc
smoky vale
me when SD doesnt proc and slayers strike doesnt proc and jugg falls off and SD ...
me when SD doesnt proc and slayers strike doesnt proc and jugg falls off and SD doesnt proc and slayers strike gets parried and SD doesnt proc and execute gets parried and slayers strike doesnt proc and BS doesnt come back up in time and reap the storm doesnt proc SD doesnt proc and slayers strike doesnt proc and jugg falls off and SD doesnt proc and reap the storm doesnt proc
me when aug does more damage than dps specs
nocturne salmon
i despise aug
dense elbow
Aug is a dam spec, check mate.
smoky vale
I think you do not realize how much damage aug does
dense elbow
I think you underestimate the power of Shaman
nocturne salmon
its a stupid spec and im tired lf seeing it
dense elbow
Why? They just a DPS that makes your dam look bigger on screen
nocturne salmon
because its a pretty much locked in spec in m+
dense elbow
I fail to see your point
clever belfry
no longer next patch
dense elbow
we all got moments of glory
smoky vale
no longer next patch
(will be because still does stupid damage)
nocturne salmon
aug has been rank one for all of its existence
clever belfry
dmg = not locked in as easily as giving ur tank +2 key levels
smoky vale
aug has been rank one for all of its existence
enh exists
stoic marsh
Honest question, do you guys recommend MT or Slayer for keys at +8 and under
smoky vale
dmg = not locked in as easily as giving ur tank +2 key levels
hi andussy
nocturne salmon
just rework aug and admit it was a mistake already bliz
nocturne salmon
Honest question, do you guys recommend MT or Slayer for keys at +8 and under
id just slayer tbh
things just die too fast
sinful spoke
Thats good for fury tho
Lol
U look good in the meters
Cause ur burst
Arms is what u want in longer fights
winter shoal
Arms is what u want in longer fights
Until you have to fight a boss
sinful spoke
Until you have to fight a boss <:keks:936231610850897992>
If u play arms well with the m+ build u do decent st
sinful spoke
enh does it better
Enh does everything better
smoky vale
yes
sinful spoke
It might be the best class this expac so far
smoky vale
🙂
sinful spoke
With ret behind
sinful spoke
Real
smoky vale
aug
sinful spoke
Gio give me 500k gold so i can gear my shammy
smoky vale
suck my nuts
surreal token
smoky vale
Hes too busy trying to tak emy gold
sinful spoke
Where is the post
Its in my draft on my pc
I just finished gym sesh
Looking yolked
surreal token
what's brodie posting?
young swan
dude
main dragon
Guys convince me Im a demon hunter main primarily and trying to decide if I want to main demon hunter or warrior next phase
surreal token
Both of the classes u mentioned are shit
DH doubly so
because there are a TON of mechanics where u need to stay still
and it's a ranged tier
melee is not only going to be bad (aside from enhance, windwalker, and ret)
but there will be less of them brought
sinful spoke
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/148898695696482305/1227255511125...
LOL how did i miss this
surreal token
true, both classess will be mandatory
but if ur indecisive, why not just pick one that's a god tier class
slim coral
Guys convince me Im a demon hunter main primarily and trying to decide if I want...
Go demon hunter
More flavor
Not 10 year old design
modest condor
SPriest is a very fun melee spec
just stand in melee 4Head
clever path
Single spec with more in it than both warrior specs
Not saying dh is better but it’s got a lot of varied things comparatively
pulsar quest
@smoky vale why this dog lowkey remind me of u
smoky vale
fucked up
slim coral
Not saying dh is better but it’s got a lot of varied things comparatively
You can freaking back flip what’s not to love
Can even do zoomies
carmine zealot
Go demon hunter
This is a bad take. Dps DH is one of the most neglected specs since BFA in the game. It’s also doing less damage than the new buffed warrior on PTR. Also, mistweaver monk and hunter are looking OP, both of which are physical damage classes and help warrior who helps them in return. (Battle shout) Warrior is definitely the play, unless you are playing VDH that’s a diff story.
Also they just released dungeon tuning changes that removed A LOT of the punishing melee mechanics & area denial. It may still be a ranged season but if you can do good damage as melee you’re fine.
sullen dove
young swan
This is a bad take. Dps DH is one of the most neglected specs since BFA in the g...
didnt dh get a rework in amirdrassil
or was it a bad one
carmine zealot
Must have been the worst one of all time cause every vlsss that’s reworked is at minimum A tier after if not S.
Poor DH 😦
sullen dove
dh fucking owned in s3 no?
carmine zealot
No hard feelings Mr. Based - Had to defend warrior in the warrior discord lolol
young swan
i mean i just dont think its the most neglected dps since bfa
carmine zealot
dh fucking owned in s3 no?
Only first 4/6 weeks until they were nerfed. Small window to shine.
carmine zealot
i mean i just dont think its the most neglected dps since bfa
Top 5 FINE
young swan
yeah thats acceptable
tbf every melee dps that isnt enh, dk, rogue is basically left to rot
even ww, despite getting reworked, is just crippled
slim coral
This is a bad take. Dps DH is one of the most neglected specs since BFA in the g...
I was just making a joke
carmine zealot
I will say they have done a decent job allowing every spec to be meta or close to over the last 2-3 years. Warriors just waiting their turn… give us utility plzzzzz
slim coral
even ww, despite getting reworked, is just crippled
Someone said ww is really good on ptr
Like A tier
carmine zealot
Yeah got big buffs, it’s up there for melee
Fury was basically tying it on PTR today. Warrior damage rlly big now.
I mean basically 20% overall cause they hit every core rotation ability.
young swan
yeah its pretty wild
sudden tusk
might make it okay for M+
historically Single taget wise most things besides shaman are actually relatively balanced
but fight design will dictate
sour tundra
how does warrior survive heaving retch mechanic for the 1st boss of necrotic wake in high keys i get 1 shot everytime even going defensive stance
sudden tusk
if they just moved fury up to 8 targets
sudden tusk
how does warrior survive heaving retch mechanic for the 1st boss of necrotic wak...
Dstance Enraged Regen and Spell reflect
the damage is nature so dont forgetti reflect
high echo
I mean basically 20% overall cause they hit every core rotation ability.
Honestly, nice but it doesn't address the core issues
Which is the bland kit
summer quail
wtf is this
high echo
Someone who doesn't play the game
winter shoal
10.0.5
modest condor
good one
winter shoal
Arms FUCKED
willow cradle
When was EP again? Weren't we real good in raid
high echo
Come on now..at launch and on WFR warr was pretty meta
winter shoal
yeah but we were 2nd behind spriest
high echo
Before they nerfed aoe 7 times
winter shoal
I thought the arms mini-rework was in 10.0.5 and it was strong after that, but seems like it fell off a bit after 10.0.7 so idk
I didn't play arms until then so I'm not sure how good it was beforehand
modest condor
damn
sullen dove
fury cb cb > rampage overcap 500 rage per rotation was sick wym
summer quail
I didn't think fury was that good at the time tho
fury just got left behind by other classes getting buffed etc
winter shoal
Inverse of 11.0 sadge
high echo
Watch them nerf thunderous roar again for season 2
proud portal
Its almost as if reworking a spec and giving it always accessible and relevant u...
I do dream the day they actually look over warriors and reworked them fully instead of just putting band aid on top of band aid on top of the already loosen band aid...on top of ripping it out letting it bleed then put it on another band aid...you get the point.
acoustic seal
summer quail
is
s1 df was worse, it was after every single rampage. now it's atleast only every reck
summer quail
in raid s3 was fun. in m+ was not fun
sullen dove
just some of cdr
modest condor
I didn't think fury was that good at the time tho
same this as this tier, it was really good at killing the adds
sudden tusk
it was the odyns fury cdr and damage or some shit
i think
you legit just had a Bloodbath/Rampage macro
and spammed it
summer quail
you legit just had a Bloodbath/Rampage macro
the problem is it forced you to press bloodbath even if you weren't enraged
sudden tusk
yuh
red berry
if they just moved fury up to 8 targets
whirlwind going to 8 targets would be nice tbh
im glad our ST is better now but
i just like to do keys
high echo
Increase target cap yeah
Make abilities do more than just "more overall/aoe dmg"
Remove shit talents (which is half of the tree)
smoky vale
@slim coral grats on your pc trial
slim coral
<@137623498351837184> grats on your pc trial
smoky vale
im just going to stare at this
slim coral
yeah just practiec that until it's muscle memory
also from what I've heard the writer of hekili is a shaman
so it's pretty accurate apparently
winter shoal
hekili just uses simcraft apls
I think there's some amount of manual translation they have to do, but yeah the eponymous Hekili is an enhance main
smoky vale
enhance these nuts
modest condor
ill enhance your face
slim coral
hekili just uses simcraft apls
That makes sense, I feel like as long as you know how to play around your cds and don’t use them when hekili says to during suboptimal times you could probably be fine
gleaming talon
enhance these nuts
With or without divine shield / guardian?
winter shoal
That makes sense, I feel like as long as you know how to play around your cds an...
Hekili has a toggle for "cooldown mode" so you can tell it not to use cds (you can also change what it considers to be a cd) to account for this
Idr what the keybind is, it's really weird
Like ctrl+alt+shift+C or something
slim coral
Well there you go even better
clever belfry
it dies soon
it should
P3 is like play 2 rings and u win 100% now
we killed before 2nd ring today even was a bit ??
winter shoal
144 pulls still haven't even made it to p2 platform 2
winter shoal
No
smoky vale
D:
slim coral
He had 3 alts
winter shoal
zhai do you guys sell m queen?
dapper goblet
lets get a perma ban on bazed
winter shoal
so true xeos
nocturne salmon
thats alota revvez
ivory ingot
gilded pawn
https://github.com/Hekili/hekili/wiki/Syrif's-Configuration-Guide
yeah this is the tech
winter shoal
yeah this is the tech
Do you actually use hekili for warrior?
I've found it's really good for rogue and enhance but kinda shit for fdk
I tried it for warrior just to see how it did back in DF and it was kinda shit there too
gilded pawn
yeah im a conneseur
ok so
heres a funny story
hekili wasnt taking account of reck
so the rage gain was very unexpected
covert blaze
apl bot with no account for nuance
poggerss
winter shoal
hekili wasnt taking account of reck
I was playing arms at the time
winter shoal
Only during cs no?
clever path
33 percent queen wipe. we getting there bois so ready to be done
junior gale
lmao
were a special group of ppl enjoy
just finishing reclear rn
@young swan played some colossus just for you
young swan
sour frigate
<@137363315817971712> played some colossus just for you
some dopamine
smoky vale
<a:ExcitedBlushette:932414006679973888>
watch swordish Madge
young swan
im playing space marine
smoky vale
fucked up
junior gale
yeah I loved space marine 2 such a fantastic game
ivory ingot
im playing space marine
did they fix the dumb team ai yet
clever path
Dumb ai is a feature not a bug
sour frigate
ai is good
abstract flower
is there a pin for what gems I should get for ring?
sour frigate
man this guy cant tank 12 sv
sudden tusk
had 2 12 Svs in a row
guy walked into the hallway and exploded without pressing anything twice
key insta over lmao
sour frigate
i proceeded to gigachad dbts tank first pull and 10% of first boss
hoped to have an ez ++ with that tank xd
sinful spoke
@slim coral i made the post
sinful spoke
Nahhh i dont want judgement its all ofer the place i let my emotions take over instead of thinking
slim coral
pale sable
Are the reverted buffs from before added once again?
Sorry for the stupid question.
Am I reading it wrong?
dense elbow
Ye, they back
dense elbow
I never lie about OF buffs
pale sable
So yall just trolling 😔
pale sable
Im not too savvy about confirming stuff outside of class discords, I admit. I rely on info from here.
radiant plank
idk blueposts are outside of class discords and they are usually factual with changes
shut tusk
Hey guys, is fury like other DW specs where the off hand is mostly for stats and it's not really that important?
Or it's super huge and necessary to have 2 myth/636 weapons
sudden tusk
Hey guys, is fury like other DW specs where the off hand is mostly for stats and...
its more stats, but more dam as well. the mainhand is whats super important
the main thing is it IS still a 2h worth of stats, so its not the biggest deal for your offhand, but its still worth investing into
shut tusk
its more stats, but more dam as well. the mainhand is whats super important
So I should prio crafting an off hand over other off pieces like boots, etc?
sudden tusk
yeah, our current BiS setup for standard 5-ish min raid fights is crafted offhand with darkmoon ascension
and then a off crafted piece with the doubler
writhing armor band or somethin like that
shut tusk
is there a difference between putting the band on a the off hand vs another piece?
high echo
the 15% to OF is surely huge
After 8 nerfs to it? Godlike yes
high echo
is there a difference between putting the band on a the off hand vs another piec...
Generally goes to OH because MH weapon BiS is bigger ilvl slightly
high echo
Wild hammer never dropped for me too lol I use ulgrax weap
sudden tusk
is there a difference between putting the band on a the off hand vs another piec...
no you put the Darkmoon: Ascension in your crafted offhand
then the Writhing Armor Band in a crafted armor piece
since the darkmoon embelishment can only be used on weapons
summer crater
Is mimiron.raidbots updated to the latest build?
PTR build
Getting a 4.4% ST and 22% MT increase on it compared to live (in mythic+ spec)
radiant plank
mimiron is updated ye
summer crater
mimiron is updated ye
Thanks
south kayak
I'm not doing well
summer crater
Getting a 4.4% ST and 22% MT increase on it compared to live (in mythic+ spec)
Scratch that, this was with titan's torment which sucks now. With berserker's torment instead it's a 10.3% ST increase and 29.1% MT increase
1.453M | 4.254M -> 1.602M | 5.493M
fervent yoke
Scratch that, this was with titan's torment which sucks now. With berserker's to...
How’s arms compare, just trying to figure out what the meta spec is shaping to be between the two