thane buffs bloodbath by 30% btw
#fury
compact knot
winter shoal
And if thane does more aoe and tankier than like
compact knot
which is like a lot
winter shoal
EZ Clap
smoky vale
buff deez
eager grotto
Stupid noob question, but can I have 2 ulgrax maces on at the same time? They're not unique equpipped?
fickle bluff
thane buffs bloodbath by 30% btw
not the bleed
winter shoal
Stupid noob question, but can I have 2 ulgrax maces on at the same time? They're...
You can yes
compact knot
yeah i guess
lime bloom
What content are you guys pushing ATM?
devout totem
weight at the gym
fickle bluff
transmogs from wrath/cata/mop
marble schooner
look atp and any point in the last few patches I just hope fury is at least close to Arms so I can have an argument of staying fury during prog (higher surv and almost the same dps)
if not then guess its an Arms patch 
smoky vale
always was bub
marble schooner
I love pressing random buttons cause every button does the same ammount of damage
pulsar quest
We literally just had a fury tier
smoky vale
arms better anyways
marble schooner
We literally just had a fury tier
fury couple of weeks*
pulsar quest
No like all of prog was pretty much fury lol
marble schooner
I didnt play fury this tier tho cause I was on warrior vacay
pulsar quest
You played arms for like, sikran and nexus and maybe silken if your raid had enough aoe for the adds
This was definitely a fury tier by far
marble schooner
would be kinds cringe that I come back to war for 11.1 and its an arms patch
marble schooner
This was definitely a fury tier by far
srry I thought with fury tier you meant that fury was like meta
odd cipher
and you could easily play silken and kyveza fury since bosses got nerfed and stopped being dps checks
winter shoal
srry I thought with fury tier you meant that fury was like meta
It was for a bit
smoky vale
fury was meta...
marble schooner
yeah it was a fury>arms tier
marble schooner
It was for a bit
yup, couple of weeks
compact knot
if mobs lived for 3 minute short troar + thunderous words would be bis
pulsar quest
Fury was necessary on a lot of fights
marble schooner
Fury is pog for Ovinax true
marble schooner
cant speak of queen im in silken jail
pulsar quest
And rash early on
marble schooner
till they killed logs yeah
surreal token
I got up to 50second duration on BB with lust
dense elbow
With or without the new Ava 1.5 BB CD reduction?
surreal token
Oh god
dense elbow
dense elbow
Gotta stack em bleeds to infinity
dense elbow
Got to reach 1.5m, or we 
dense elbow
Nah nah, we need 100% uptime, or we shot
surreal token
Also FE is the choice over PE if you want max BB value
compact knot
that felt bad
surreal token
TT is shit, losing the extended reck duration from BTor is not worth it
surreal token
how cursed is this
ocean ingot
when will blizzard realize fury has a talent on the left side of our tree called onslaught?
fickle bluff
how cursed is this
not really
although its dropping the bloodborne point for it there
surreal token
not really
not having deft actually feels so ass
even 1 point makes a huge difference for my gameplay
fickle bluff
-0.4% for dropping deft for UF
surreal token
Yeah jsut those 0.5 second periods where enrage drops
feels like ASS
Is Bloodborne mandatory now
warm zephyr
where can i find the new CS and WB animations
surreal token
with reworked Bloodbath
surreal token
where can i find the new CS and WB animations
go to arms and scroll up till u see Bazee's twitch clip
fickle bluff
Is Bloodborne mandatory now
not with RA, but with roar
warm zephyr
Thanks
surreal token
is roar ever not taken?
fickle bluff
as of literally right now spear is 0.1% ahead
surreal token
why?
fickle bluff
because thats how the math has mathed out
surreal token
oh my bad, ignore titan's torment
meager gyro
when will blizzard realize fury has a talent on the left side of our tree called...
they should buff ons capstone and maybe it good, make it do a flat rampage buff instead of that slaughtering strikes nonsense.
edgy widget
With or without the new Ava 1.5 BB CD reduction?
Titan's Torment gives you less extra Bloodthirsts than Berserker's Torment does
surreal token
Yeah TT is straight ass
edgy widget
not to mention that the longer Reck & Ava buffs other damage more
surreal token
Which fucking genius at blizzard made it so that Ravager doesn't interact with the middle slayer talents?
you lose multiple GCDs to bladestorm that could be spent on more bloodbaths
and you NEED to use BS to get those overwhelmed stacks up
surreal token
yeah but you could haev both w/ unhinged ravager
smoky vale
ravager is just slower bbs?
surreal token
you realize you cast bb if you are buff with reck
wdym
prio BB > BS during reck window?
surreal token
yeah I know that, but it could be doubled if u jsut throw ravager and keep casting per usual
smoky vale
then just play thane?
winter shoal
If you BB -> BS -> BB I think you only lose one potential global of casting BB
Because BS is 3 gcds innit
winter shoal
It's still the same number of gcds, just ticks faster
frosty spade
smoky vale
https://www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-1-ptr-development-notes-for-january-28th-c...
late sir
fickle bluff
thanks man didnt see that
smoky vale
thanks man didnt see that
sir how behind is pants
fickle bluff
sir how behind is pants
not having recklessness and taking berserkers torment is doing wonders
smoky vale
this is the build for me ~~redacted~~
are uou willing to play arms for it
dense elbow
oh
fickle bluff
ohh no that was pants fury
dense elbow
oh
surreal token
Idk how it'll be in actual raid combat
but assuming you get full uptime
you can have perma Bloodbath
but only if u get lucky DoI proc
surreal token
it's enough
dense elbow
surreal token
but you need to make sure BT is off cd when u cast rampage
that way if u proc reck, u can insta BB
then press RB again before reck expires
otherwise you won't get a second cast
that's with FE too, not PE
smoky vale
ohh no that was pants fury
what is pants arms
sour tundra
do my eyes deceive me? Blizzard actually buffed our damage
dense elbow
Nah, they just reverted some nerfs from the changes being done
past cedar
Hello guys!
Got something on my mind. If you are playing more than 1 char, lets say 3-4. And every char is between 630-638 ilvl. How do you "finish" or cap that char for the week?
4x10's keys for 4 chars is insane timeconsuming? That is all you have time for the entire week. Or just do 1x10 each char and call it a day? Im curious to hear how you are managing more than one character in this patch.
fickle bluff
do 4/8 mythic runs on them
dense elbow
You wondering if it still spreads the bleed? :p
smoky vale
Hello guys!
Got something on my mind. If you are playing more than 1 char, lets ...
Do an abhorrent amount of keys
fickle bluff
apparently unhinged is still cleaving it
frank dawn
Yeh or ifā¦things were added to the cleaving 
dense elbow
Dream on
frank dawn
xd
fickle bluff
blizzard are pretty set on not having unhinged cleave
dense elbow
That would be a M+ Buff 
we dont want Fury to do dam in M+
glad coyote
yes we do lol
dense elbow
you sure about that, eh - nerfs hit hard
dense elbow
asking ppl not to zug zug
modest condor
so they fixed unhinged cleaving bb dot last week and then they reintroduced the bug again this week?
dense elbow
The warrior dev doing his best to sneak in a win for us
frank dawn
It was still cleaving all last week Iām pretty sure
dense elbow
Balance team got him under heel
frank dawn
Unless Iām dumb
fickle bluff
It was still cleaving all last week Iām pretty sure
not from unhinged
frank dawn
Hue. I didnāt test much last week, but F
modest condor
i explicity tested last week and even posted on discord (not this channel) that it didnt anymore
smoky vale
test deez
sudden tusk
fury stonks even lower
smoky vale
good
frank dawn
Gearing mage
modest condor
im rerolling tank
wary fjord
gear enhancement
smoky vale
nerf of and onslaught
modest condor
lvling 5 characters brb
smoky vale
@dense elbow
frank dawn
lol
smoky vale
you said you missed "toxic" gio
dense elbow
I did do that, better than UwU Gio
warm crag
you said you missed "toxic" gio
hello gio (gala?)
feral ivy
is patch 11.1 new season?
winter shoal
Yes
feral ivy
i like this patch notes. not nurfing or buffing shammy so everyone else is getting buffed to get that dmg
slim coral
Damage breakdown from a 10 meadery post buffs
winter shoal
RA thane is cursed
slim coral
5.5mil bb crit
dense elbow
Also, you know ppl want to see the bleed breakdown
main dragon
This is probably stupid question, but does being a larger race like tauren make it harder to avoid mechanics? Like swirlies and such
Like is their hitbox literally larger
slim coral
Did you missclick?
surreal token
Damage breakdown from a 10 meadery post buffs
cursed
spare steppe
Damage breakdown from a 10 meadery post buffs
more importantly tho, how does it FEEL to play?
frank dawn
Oh. I think itās a fine/good change
winter shoal
oh i menat in general, the reckless abandon change
Feels kinda weird but current RA is super unintuitive so it's kinda whatever
You basically BB > CB > only rampage to maintain enrage
sinful spoke
WARRIOR IS SAVED
winter shoal
So you overcap rage even more than current RA lol
sinful spoke
Damage breakdown from a 10 meadery post buffs
Try slayer? :shyduck:
strange sedge
i just saw the patch notes, can i put the gun down yet?
sinful spoke
Yes
spare steppe
So you overcap rage even more than current RA lol
slightly confused, so rampage is lower priority outside of reckelssness then basically?
slim coral
more importantly tho, how does it FEEL to play?
it feels really good
sinful spoke
MASHALLAH
slim coral
Try slayer? :shyduck:
I can do that
sinful spoke
BLIZZARD LISTENED
sinful spoke
I can do that
dense elbow
I can do that
Better show me that 8% overall dam on OF, or I will write a strongly opinionated sentence 
rigid stirrup
Any ptr people can some end of key numbers for us w the buffs?
sinful spoke
Any ptr people can some end of key numbers for us w the buffs?
Check bazed posts
rigid stirrup
Delicious
thorny shoal
bro, what in the fuck are those new animations for warrior
arms just stay losing huh
thorny shoal
i am happy you like it, i personally think it probably couldnt look worse
slim coral
Any ptr people can some end of key numbers for us w the buffs?
Can get around 3 mil overall if your group doesnt chain wipe
heress the overall
oblique thistle
Not sure if this has been asked at some point
And I know the answer is probably already no, but figured I'd ask anyways
But is there any merit to titans torment and anger management in M+? Like do you get any extra value out of the lower rampage cost to take advantage of AM?
slim coral
this is with like 10 wipes
modest condor
Not sure if this has been asked at some point
And I know the answer is probably ...
AM cdr is based on rage spent, not amount of rampages cast
so no
fluid pollen
are those buffs 11.1 or take affect today ?
oblique thistle
Makes sense thank you
slim coral
are those buffs 11.1 or take affect today ?
11.1
but they do take affect on ptr today
I feel lied to
slim coral
no keys up rn
summer quail
hmh they did not buff bloodbath dot
dense elbow
Warrior top meters one key, and suddenly there are no more keys. Cowards.
lean heart
are you running FE or PE for this
slim coral
PE
lean heart
smoky turret
can the bleed from bb be cleaved now on ptr?
summer quail
can the bleed from bb be cleaved now on ptr?
yea, tho it has done that for a while now
smoky turret
ty I have not been paying attention to ptr changes closely
clever belfry
frenzied enrage my king
vague sierra
buffs re-reverted yeah?
coral dock
So did the new warrior updates take effect today? I haven't been on since i got a temp ban for my char name
clever belfry
what was the name
oblique trail
sometimes some things are just better left unmentioned you know
coral dock
never had it be a problem on any other game
coral dock
but thank you
glass coral
I'm a little confused w/ gems yall. Sims has me gem all the same color but leaderboard warriors all go for culminating+diff colors. Is the sim flawed?
oblique trail
It's not flawed no. Just make sure you pick enough different gems, be sure to tick "Replace existing gems/enchants" above the enchant and gem selection, as well as make sure you tick "always use" and "+4 colours" underneath the blasphemite gems, in the gem selection area
As an example
glass coral
ah I missed the always use toggle
slim coral
So did the new warrior updates take effect today? I haven't been on since i got ...
Yes
charred panther
ring is done eh? 658?
oblique trail
Correct
frank dawn
with these buffs I'm kinda feeling like Slayer is just dead everywhere now lol
spare steppe
is it not better ST or for prio in raid?
inner zinc
do we have an idea yet which combo of talents we gonna run as thane ? (Titan torment vs zerker torment and RA vs AM)
for M+ that is
seems like with the buffs to BT and RB, AM is just gonna be plain better for thane
summer quail
with these buffs I'm kinda feeling like Slayer is just dead everywhere now lol
prob still the play in raid for the most part. they would need to buff lightning strikes or tblast, something that doesn't buff slayer
for it to be dead
south kayak
Blizzard buff fury execute challenge impossible
south kayak
prob still the play in raid for the most part. they would need to buff lightning...
I think TB needs a buff now
summer quail
genuinely does
south kayak
Also, the fact that they buffed OF by less than the other abilities is crazy when it needs a 100% buff
summer quail
they are just giga scared of burst
summer quail
Did I see that we might be going Thane
for m+ we definetely will. for raid there might be some thane bosses, who knows. i think slayer will see more play in raid tho
fluid viper
Huge
south kayak
they are just giga scared of burst
That doesnāt really make sense, they already destroyed our burst, and now thereās only one instance of OF every 45 seconds
summer quail
i am aware, i just think blizzard tends to overreact when it comes to things they don't like. they repeat nerfed our burst, and although odyns is really shit and they know it. i think they are scared it will grant us some burst again
south kayak
i am aware, i just think blizzard tends to overreact when it comes to things the...
The fights donāt seem to have the short lived adds in the new raid
So itās not like we can use that anyway
ornate sable
cerulean hornet
We need lust. And it needs to be a banner
You and me both
fervent barn
checking in whats everyones thoughts on the buffs
slim coral
They're good buffs
red berry
im concerned about performance in keys being worse then they are now
summer quail
i wouldn't worry about that. we are mid in live keys and will most likely be mid in 11.1 keys as well
š
fervent barn
They're good buffs
im assuming nowhere near meta shifting though
slim coral
I mean it def takes the spec from d tier to probably around A tier
modest condor
I mean I did 20mil dps on an opener pack in meadery
meanwhile destro lock 30 seconds later still doing 40mil dps
slim coral
meanwhile destro lock 30 seconds later still doing 40mil dps
op classes gonna be op
the one thing I do want is some slight buffs when outside of cds
south kayak
what talents u using rn
modest condor
they just gave us buffs outside of cds
south kayak
No OF right?
modest condor
nah OF is dead
slim coral
they just gave us buffs outside of cds
I can only speak about the few keys I ran but shaman was constnatly at like 4 mill baseline
even outside cds
but idk how shaman works
slim coral
ye
modest condor
the 15% buff isnt even enough to make up for the loss of the 4 seconds of avatar
slim coral
their damage is always there
that's pretty lame
slim coral
the 15% buff isnt even enough to make up for the loss of the 4 seconds of avatar
yeah also it feels really bad not having a 45 sec cd
south kayak
in s2
summer quail
that's how outlaw is as well
slim coral
having only 1 min 30s feels realyl bad when you do back to back big pulls
fervent barn
I mean it def takes the spec from d tier to probably around A tier
Oh shit
south kayak
and you can press lava lash every other gcd
fervent barn
Arms good now also?
south kayak
so you can basically send out big tremors every other gcd
slim coral
ok so this is why totemic is always doing damage
whatever dev cooked this up needs to work on warrior
south kayak
Yeah this is a great cooking
dense elbow
20 million stable over 20 sec, or 20 mill peak?
south kayak
peak obviously lmao
slim coral
20 million stable over 20 sec, or 20 mill peak?
peak
dense elbow
Then I am not impressed, but glad we at least can do something halfway of others
south kayak
<:detective:912341312907378689>
it's not just this their Crash lightning also does insane damage
slim coral
here's the pull
south kayak
slim coral
south kayak
dense elbow
Ye, we will need to double that burst, if it is to be viable - or our baseline got to be real high.
How is our overall after the change, if enough keys been done for a feel?
slim coral
you can easily get 3 mill overall on a clean run
dense elbow
Aight, not too shabby. If ppl still doing around 2.5-3m mark as in last set
summer quail
can prob get even more as arms, arms even before the buffs did decent damage in m+. now with new tier and the buffs arms will slap.
dense elbow
I am glad, arms need some time to shine
dense elbow
Hopefully Fury gets some love too, but that can wait a few weeks
south kayak
the BL EB gameplay
summer quail
just wish arms felt a bit better to play. overpower such a sleepy button when you don't run BL
south kayak
you're a sleepy button
fervent barn
my issue with arms is it feels slightly bloated
summer quail
i wish, could press myself and fall asleep then
south kayak
This procs a lot
dense elbow
you can easily get 3 mill overall on a clean run
Oh, I just presume based on old numbers. But OF and slayer still pretty meh, ye?
slim coral
Oh, I just presume based on old numbers. But OF and slayer still pretty meh, ye?
have not been able to try slayer yet ptr was too slow tonight I will test tomorrow
summer quail
my issue with arms is it feels slightly bloated
definetely bloated. arms wants to press everything, but you can't press everything. it's a very weird spec
dense elbow
Aight, hopefully I get some time too. Maybe the dungs got good pathing for slayers aoe burst windows
south kayak
have not been able to try slayer yet ptr was too slow tonight I will test tomorr...
PE or Frenzied?
slim coral
PE or Frenzied?
PE
dense elbow
Thanks foe the info tho, Based o7
south kayak
Btw, how does the dungeon feel after the nerfs?
young swan
BB bleed isnt hasted
slim coral
also buff thunderous roar
young swan
dont think that matters
south kayak
bet
young swan
multiplicative damage pretty fuck good on an unhasted bleed
south kayak
Xan, are you an arms player
young swan
i try not to be
south kayak
lmao
I know it's a long shot but i really like how it's played on colossus
with BL and EB
Slam
young swan
if i didnt need a gorillian keybinds for their 5 different aoe buttons i might play arms
south kayak
if i didnt need a gorillian keybinds for their 5 different aoe buttons i might p...
It honestly doesn't feel that bad at all
better than fury at least
slim coral
idk why they make arms aoe so clunky
south kayak
Thane cough
winter shoal
if i didnt need a gorillian keybinds for their 5 different aoe buttons i might p...
ST Col with BL actually feels real good imo
Aside from the demolish root
dense elbow
also buff thunderous roar
TR did what 7-9% avg overall last round about, why do you want buffs to it? Uncap would be nice, but dam seems fine. It is above OF by a bit and a half after all
dense elbow
It is 45 sec in my build
Lines up with OF for a little bit of dam help for a weak ability
dense elbow
I will wait on that a bit, but I do believe you. Without the BS amp presumed it would be weak value
Still, I got hopium
clever path
if i didnt need a gorillian keybinds for their 5 different aoe buttons i might p...
Why do they insist on making arms suck to play?
Like ever since DF they keep making it worse
south kayak
how do you craft highest ilvl stuff on ptr
dense elbow
OF needed a 115% buff
Problem it isn't too far away from TR. OF should do more raw dam, as it got no amp, in my opinion.
Then it is a question of dam profile overall, but that is a lost cause
summer quail
Problem it isn't too far away from TR. OF should do more raw dam, as it got no a...
can't compare class to spec talents
frank dawn
with zerker torment and uproar you get Reck/Ava/Roar/OF every 45 with AM - which has some appeal. Just doesn't seem like the numbers are there.
dense elbow
I do, and I find it to be an ok baseline to base raw dam from. We don't want to overpower OF and burst potential
Because raid will kill it again
Cause raid
summer quail
they could just add more damage to the dot
dense elbow
They could, but at that point remove OF and just make it a roar mod
What makes OF fun, is that instant burst and spike on the meters
south kayak
It could still do that because the dot duration for OF is very short
dense elbow
Spreading it out, kills the purpose
south kayak
it's 4 seconds
young swan
Why do they insist on making arms suck to play?
who knows
dense elbow
A 10m peak, will be more fun to the spike enjoyer, than a 8m peak, even if overall is the same. That kind of logic
I do believe honestly many forget that this impact matter for enjoyment in this niche
dense elbow
Now go do PvP, man it gotta pump with the 20% buff
south kayak
@slim coral Did you use UF?
dapper goblet
lets get a mute on baze
slim coral
Nobody seems to be making any
it's pretty late for most people so yeah
south kayak
Did u have more success with words or uproar
slim coral
I don't play uproar
compact knot
uproar is good on a council like boss probably
mobs dont live long enough for uproar value
south kayak
huge BB
dense elbow
Why wouldn't you take both roar upgrades? Is there really a better option
sullen dove
smoky vale
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
holy moly
south kayak
guacamole
compact knot
Why wouldn't you take both roar upgrades? Is there really a better option
I feel like in m+ if can just desync cds, and if you dont send it off cd you lose value, mobs theoretically can live long enough for uproar to get value since itll buff your BB dot damage (you should get 45+ seconds easily in m+) and it can get value from the second troar
but mobs wont live long enough for that so its not great
slim coral
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
young swan
Why wouldn't you take both roar upgrades? Is there really a better option
u would be shocked to see just how irrelevant talent point allocation matters in that last area
dense elbow
Fair, I am just surprised. Would think spear or anything would have some value
main dragon
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/DAOAUVFVFE...
Why no odyns fury?
slim coral
OF bad TLDR
dense elbow
OF isn't taken on live, PTR it is worse
main dragon
Oh I thought it was taken on live in mythic +
slim coral
I'm talking about PTR
main dragon
Yeah I know bazed I was responding to funky my b
dense elbow
Low keys it is fun, but you lose prio dam value for a minor to neglible benefit
OF simply put has been nerfed that bit too much.
Hopefully, we see a return to form in a patch or two
silk wharf
Bladestorm/OF choice node with a ravager followup off storm.
(with a fairly large buff to odyns)
dense elbow
Hm, yeah. Prob should specify that OF still is the play for slayer. I took it for granted we talking Thane.
Avatar window from TT is great for slayers BS window
modest condor
what avatar?
dense elbow
From TT on live
modest condor
people still play live?
dense elbow
That was the area he asked about clarification on, ya
young swan
are there people actually playing 2xVC?
modest condor
yeah me
young swan
u dont count
modest condor
oh
young swan
world quester
dense elbow
2xVC, no OF as slayer? Madman
modest condor
dense elbow
Fun, more dopamine, less boring than thane
modest condor
imagine playing thane in anything below a 15
young swan
except for like city of threads
sour frigate
why would u play slayer in keys
To do less damage than ww 
smoky vale
playing thane below 15s is just so miserable
modest condor
i mean it's still stronger
i just prefer slayer and you dont need thane at that keylevel
dense elbow
Play slayer if you prefer slayer, you already trolling playing warrior. The diff is neglible compared to bringing a real class
sour frigate
Bruh
modest condor
real
sour frigate
everything dies too fast man
Even in 15s ench can evaporate a pull faster than u play ur bursts
dense elbow
Duh, they burst more than our peak at 610 ilvl.
smoky vale
skyhold streamer swordish is progging ansurekussy
dense elbow
He will get the kill, no need to watch
I have 100% faith in swordfish skill
The team is the source of all troubles
sour frigate
stoic marsh
Warrior still not getting any sizeable buffs for 11.1?
Removing the uncapped aoe cooked this class
smoky vale
stoic marsh
Yup nothing good š„²
south kayak
young swan
Yup nothing good š„²
yeah just like a 10-15% dps increase lol
clever path
Buffs are good but I always want more
young swan
never will be
stoic marsh
Although i did read the wrong message :P didnt see those big buffs
stoic marsh
never will be
I mean, give us uncapped aoe 
smoky vale
cant do that without nerfing us even more
young swan
last time a dps warrior was hard meta in m+ was during tomb of sargeras and will probably never happen again
slim coral
they still gotta rework this class
stoic marsh
I have trust fury will see its days
stoic marsh
they still gotta rework this class
+1
slim coral
which it seems like wont happen until midnight
clever path
They need to leave behind the 2010 mindset of the class design
So many other classes have been modernized like pally and such to good effect
young swan
yeah u can really feel warriors age
young swan
honestly you mostly feel it by way of the fact that theres nothing to feel
slim coral
lol true
young swan
its just a vanilla bean spec
slim coral
doesnt have much flavor
young swan
like go play ele and come back to warrior
slim coral
well make a forum post about it
young swan
its insane
slim coral
maybe they'll see it
summer quail
maybe they'll see it
slim coral
<:clueless:1099922541923024997>
they're pretty active on the forums
so if you truly want change to happen you gotta go yap it up
summer quail
genuinely is smart to make a forum post. i still don't believe they will see it, but they will certainly not see it if there is no post
slim coral
they always say they read them
clever path
I feel like warriors biggest downfall is its reliance on being up the bosses ass when the game isnāt designed to let you be these days
stoic marsh
they always say they read them
They do lie a lot
compact knot
like go play ele and come back to warrior
playing enh feels so much better than warrior
compact knot
like im 627 ilvl and i burst for like 5m dps ST on pull
slim coral
They do lie a lot
Even archi has said they read the forum post
stoic marsh
And thats a yikes
compact knot
then i do it again 2 minutes later
stoic marsh
like im 627 ilvl and i burst for like 5m dps ST on pull
I hit 8 mil dps
On a 606 ilvl shami
Aoe but
Still
compact knot
I did 20m dps on the big aoe pack after rashanan
south kayak
like theres no interesting interactions outside of unhinged
But they're happy with it š
compact knot
lmfao
compact knot
for sure
stoic marsh
Rework*
south kayak
like go play ele and come back to warrior
Enha too
stoic marsh
Well warrior needs a pay raise so they can do smth
south kayak
Is there like separate teams
If there is then we're getting the short end of the stick
compact knot
i went mage cause the mage dev was goated, then he fucked arcane and now idk about mage
summer quail
like theres no interesting interactions outside of unhinged
and they made unhinged not cleave. i don't understand why unhinged couldn't cleave, but have lower damage bt/ms for example
compact knot
and they made unhinged not cleave. i don't understand why unhinged couldn't clea...
I think it was kinda crazy strong that it could proc reap the storm though
and blizz did not like that
summer quail
I think it was kinda crazy strong that it could proc reap the storm though
yea, that part was insane for sure
nocturne salmon
lets make fury a 1 button spec
stoic marsh
i went mage cause the mage dev was goated, then he fucked arcane and now idk abo...
Mage overall is š„
Check the fire mage change
Makes rhe class feel amazing
compact knot
nah mage is really good
stoic marsh
Same w frost
clever path
The bottom tier of our tree needs to be gutted and remade entirely. Our capstones are horrible and even with the change coming they still suck
stoic marsh
Arcanes alao really good
compact knot
but the change they did with arcane mid season was not good
stoic marsh
Yeah
stoic marsh
It was meh i rerolled to frost
nocturne salmon
i only really like fire
compact knot
fire is gonna be real good next season with that tier set
arcane is a lot more fun though
slim coral
like go play ele and come back to warrior
is ele fun?
will it make me hate warrior xan
compact knot
touch of the magi giving you a guranteed clearcasting proc is going to make arcanes burst way more consistent which is REALLY fun + the 4 set making your next missiles do aoe and hit harder, arcane will be very fun next season for sure
humble plover
having a good day will make you hate warrior
young swan
is ele fun?
equally as fun as beta fury
compact knot
Mage overall is š„
mage dev fucked arcane on ptr, taking a talent that is supposed to make abar do more damage in aoe is actually making it do like 85% less damage LUL
clever path
They should have made our tier set make rampage do more hits. Like a slot machine hitting 777 over and over for big damage
summer quail
fire is gonna be real good next season with that tier set
they did just get nerfed on ptr today. tho i have no clue what any of it means
young swan
i havent tried enh but i cant imagine anything more fun than randomly proccing a gorrilian EQ's
clever path
Instead we got a basic bitch tier that looks horrible and changes nothing
outer rover
With new buffs, AM is dead?
south kayak
Enha Totemic on PTR is probably one of my favorite iterations of any spec ever
compact knot
totemic is really fucking fun
stoic marsh
mage dev fucked arcane on ptr, taking a talent that is supposed to make abar do ...
I mean they definitely have smth against arcane
south kayak
Anyone knows why they buffed BM when it was dealing insane damage on ptr
south kayak
is enhacnement more fun or lesss than ele?
I find it more fun but it's just preference
Somethings off about Ele
south kayak
Anyone knows why they buffed BM when it was dealing insane damage on ptr
Also this
compact knot
I mean they definitely have smth against arcane
i just tested, the last time i did a burst on ptr i did like 12m dps across like 20 seconds, did it again and only did 7m dps LMAO
abar actually hits for 0 damage
stoic marsh
ššš
Arcane was the most interesting too
Shame blizzard really needs to stop forcing lame 1D gameplay
south kayak
I guess nobody knows about BM
south kayak
What's Arcane 4p?
oh
Right
I wonder if we'll use Arcane Explosion in aoe finally
young swan
With new buffs, AM is dead?
nah
compact knot
What's Arcane 4p?
makes your next abar give 4 charges and does like 100% more damage
south kayak
and why did they buff FDK, they were doing well
compact knot
random proc
nocturne salmon
I guess nobody knows about BM
dont like bm so idk
south kayak
bet
summer quail
and why did they buff FDK, they were doing well
were they doing well in raid?
south kayak
Probably not but m+ they're pumping
summer quail
yeah that's why
south kayak
they just replaced a dogshit talent with a good tier set
HOLY
stoic marsh
Really unwarranted buffs
summer quail
not really an argument rascal. lots of classes can clear 11s at 606
stoic marsh
Not getting carried?
humble plover
you get nothing and you better enjoy it
compact knot
+10% damage to slam
summer quail
also blizzard does not really balance for m+. unless it is egrigously strong
compact knot
they should make odyns fury work like touch of the magi and i would play fury again
stoic marsh
ret,frostmage,enhance,ele,boomy
True and would u say that those classes should get buffs?
summer quail
if they did as bad as frost dk in raid yes. coz that is what blizzard balances for
slim coral
i havent tried enh but i cant imagine anything more fun than randomly proccing a...
EQ?
summer quail
earthquake
compact knot
totemic you push sundering and your dps goes from 2m to 6m randomly
then it procs again and it goes from 6m to 9m
south kayak
classic
compact knot
if it procs again it goes from 9m to like 12m
then it doesnt proc for like 2 minutes striahg
south kayak
This is why I don't play warrior as main anymore
so many specs are better
and feel better with better mechanics and interactions
it's sad
and they're ok with how warriors are
fucking disgrace
summer quail
This is why I don't play warrior as main anymore
what do you main? always curious to find out what warrior mains swap to
compact knot
im gonna test totemic on ptr rq
south kayak
what do you main? always curious to find out what warrior mains swap to
Enhancement
compact knot
im pretty sure its broken as fuck for burst aoe
summer quail
smart choice
compact knot
like 30m burst dps type shit
fervent yoke
When do the buffs go live on ptr?
south kayak
im pretty sure its broken as fuck for burst aoe
Not really considering it's a lot more sustained now
summer quail
When do the buffs go live on ptr?
already live on ptr
compact knot
aw thats kinda boring
compact knot
i liked doing a lot of burst
summer quail
crash lightning 19% is crazy
summer quail
yee
south kayak
south kayak
that surging totem seems a lot lower
Well, yes, that is the tuning
compact knot
BORING
compact knot
was earthsurge 200% before or?
south kayak
It was
compact knot
yeah that makes sense
south kayak
this was 150%
south kayak
stoic marsh
New deplete system?
slim coral
New deplete system?
yes
slim coral
New deplete system?
once you have a certain key level timed across the board your keys no longer depelet from that level
stoic marsh
Ohhhh
slim coral
so once you have all 14s timed your key can no longer depelte below that
compact knot
oh so you just play lava lash now
stoic marsh
The 2800 score thing
slim coral
etc etc
south kayak
and then earthsurge triggers
stoic marsh
Thats pretty dope
compact knot
i assume you still run oversurge, drop earthsurge or?
compact knot
that feels wrong
south kayak
you run ascendance for SB
south kayak
why spam windstrike when you'd rather spam lava lash
south kayak
not on ptr
south kayak
thoughts on warrior and how bad they are
enha is light years ahead of warrior playstyle
bitter palm
thoughts on warrior and how bad they are
i quit
south kayak
understandable
bitter palm
cba playing this shit ass class
south kayak
play enha
south kayak
I don't know how they're happy with this class when there's plenty of other specs that are years ahead
I don't get it
this is ridiculous
bitter palm
if their goal is to lose playerbase cause they refuse to make a spec playable
let them
(arms)
same gameplay since bfa release
cool
oh but mm deserved a rework!!!
south kayak
It was fine compared to slayer
bitter palm
blord is in the gutter
south kayak
but you're right
summer quail
with EB and BL
those 2 make arms alot more fun for sure. arms should have procs that feel good
south kayak
more fun than fury
bitter palm
remove jugg
south kayak
might be playing arms nxt season
bitter palm
and sd would feel good too
fading sky
If they buff baseline ms
south kayak
at least arms has some sort of interactions and procs that make it feel a little different
but fury doesn't
there's no difference
fading sky
Wont it make col beat slayer
summer quail
If they buff baseline ms
they would need to buff something within colossus
like the ms modifier from colossus for example
bitter palm
yeah with max tier
south kayak
And that was on one pull
fading sky
Ofc, but eb
south kayak
Wasnāt
bitter palm
how big is 8m even
compact knot
@south kayak i cooked
bitter palm
isnt enha already hitting for 8m at times
compact knot
(idk what the fuck im doing)
south kayak
isnt enha already hitting for 8m at times
Yeah and enha is overtuned
bitter palm
yeah so arms at max gear next patch will have same sized numbers (not saying it does the same damage)
cool
south kayak
Itās not doing that anymore on ptr
bitter palm
my slow and hard hitter!
south kayak
Btw
south kayak
Thereās nothing we can do but quit and hope they rework warrior within the year lol
bitter palm
thats what i did
im just waiting for them to make warrior good
then i will play
phil quittoo
south kayak
I think they should buff demolish now, to compensate for Might nerf
bitter palm
i think they should listen for once
we figured out the rework they just dont wanna listen
south kayak
Listen to who? Who knows whatās going on in there
bitter palm
(look prot changes)
bitter palm
Listen to who? Who knows whatās going on in there
nah feedback was sent multiple times
compact knot
aigth what talents do i run this is not working @south kayak
i will drop ascendance
bitter palm
prot changes is just proof they give 0 fucks about this class
summer quail
(look prot changes)
lmao, the prot situation is hilarious. received tons of feedback to keep the apm high. then they were like "your feedback means alot but we disagree, fuck you"
hilarious and sad
fervent yoke
Project reroll enhance initiated
bitter palm
i would be super pissed off if i enjoyed prot
young swan
lmao, the prot situation is hilarious. received tons of feedback to keep the apm...
same shit fury and arms have been getting since bfa
nothing new
summer quail
yupp
young swan
"yeah ur specs are actually good blow ur head off"
bitter palm
same shit fury and arms have been getting since bfa
use blue name privilege xantage
bitter palm
call blizzard
young swan
calling john blizzard sr rn
south kayak
<@375724772446830594> i cooked
Take sundering and the talent under it, and primordial storm, untalent elemental spirits, pick the witch talent
young swan
(john blizzards dad)
south kayak
Fuck whoever is designing warrior
bitter palm
no one
slim coral
"yeah ur specs are actually good blow ur head off"
I think the issue is they think warrior is good because it functions but we don't like it because it lacks flavor
south kayak
Well thatās exactly whatās happening
clever path
I mean a broken leg functions when you put a splint on it. Doesnāt mean it works well or is fun to use
slim coral
yeah but the issue is the class functions
bitter palm
press 1-2-3-4
slim coral
so they are scared to touch it
south kayak
They did a whole rework for Mm and it barely even changed
slim coral
also yall gotta be more vocal on the forums
mages were vocal there and they got changes asap
south kayak
yeah but the issue is the class functions
This is the kind of thing you gotta do at the alpha and beta of new expac
bitter palm
they are also blizzards favorite
south kayak
But they didnāt do shit for tww
bitter palm
always some restard comes on and says arms is fine
cause he plays the spec in heroic dungeons
and lfr
south kayak
Lmao
slim coral
always some restard comes on and says arms is fine
you mean casual
but yes casuals think the class is great most of the time
south kayak
People playing warrior donāt have the same personality as those playing mage
You canāt make them go on forums and send death threats
slim coral
just saying if you truly want changes spam the forums
bitter palm
im giving them money to play their game and now i also have to beg
if they dont want my money
idc
smoky vale
i made a blue woamn
bitter palm
i made a blue woamn
u too gio..
sinful spoke
@slim coral did u ever run the key as slayer in the ptr
south kayak
I can play enha but it frustrates me that warrior is in such a bland state
sinful spoke
i made a blue woamn
good boy
bitter palm
gio... why...
south kayak
Iād rather play warrior than any other class
smoky vale
cheche stop geeking
sinful spoke
my bad
smoky vale
sinful spoke
smoky vale
i did an aug key today
slim coral
<@137623498351837184> did u ever run the key as slayer in the ptr
no cause there weren't any keys up when I was done
smoky vale
I WAS OWNING
bitter palm
geeking activity
sinful spoke
my s2 roster so far
summer quail
i made a blue woamn
lmao i made mine a few weeks ago. 618 ilvls, only doing a weekly basically
smoky vale
prob my best aug key
sinful spoke
no cause there weren't any keys up when I was done
saj
sinful spoke
not after the buffs
south kayak
I canāt think of a worse class than warrior
sinful spoke
we're š š
south kayak
In terms of gameplay and design
south kayak
Lmao
bitter palm
it works for some specs iirc
slim coral
my s2 roster so far
we need a 4th plate class
bitter palm
@clever path stop geeking
slim coral
so I can have 4 plates for my bondfire
sinful spoke
we need a 4th plate class
real
smoky vale
are there really only 3 polate classes?
slim coral
ye
sinful spoke
so I can have 4 plates for my bondfire
give us a plate caster tank
smoky vale
am i geeking
slim coral
neeed one more plate for the campfire
south kayak
Geek dn
smoky vale
plate caster would go crazy
bitter palm
too op for pvp
south kayak
Unholy is kind of a plate caster
sinful spoke
or could just give usa high mobility lance user u know
south kayak
No
sinful spoke
a necromancer that uses a scythe and summons old bosses we've killed
south kayak
Until they fundamentally change fury, I wonāt play
sinful spoke
thatd be pog
smoky vale
Until they fundamentally change fury, I wonāt play
too bad you are geeking
south kayak
I want interactions, I want procs
smoky vale
be like @clever path
sinful spoke
we get it box u dont like the current iteration
smoky vale
hes lockced in
south kayak
Nobody does
sinful spoke
cry in the forums not here
smoky vale
no crying in here is fun
south kayak
True
sinful spoke
fuck i leveled the wrong priest
south kayak
Iām on EU forums which means I donāt have a forum to complain to
bitter palm
fuck i leveled the wrong priest
flat river
south kayak
Gg
south kayak
@slim coral spam forums every day for me
slim coral
whats the question
south kayak
Thanks
smoky vale
yuo make a trial acc