Colossus fury when 
#fury
ivory ingot
sour frigate
Colossus fury when <:wicked:937093876857045012>
whats wrong mate?
ivory ingot
dense elbow
Why ppl want col Fury? I would only stand for this if demolish was replaced by OF - and all mods buffed it
calm swallow
I'm late to the party, I know, but how do we feel about these fury buffs/fury tier?
summer quail
I'm late to the party, I know, but how do we feel about these fury buffs/fury ti...
What fury buffs?
calm swallow
What fury buffs?
visual sleet
reverted
dapper goblet
calm swallow
They gave us a bunch of buffs and then reverted all ofthem?
visual sleet
Welcome to warriors
calm swallow
I know i'm late to this specific party, but I didn't see a post about the changes being reverted?
summer quail
I know i'm late to this specific party, but I didn't see a post about the change...
It's on the same post
calm swallow
I see nothing being reverted
warped bone
They pretty much just added (REVERTED) Part + edit saying the same on the wowhead post.
warped bone
I see nothing being reverted
Also top line on that post says Has Been Reverted 😄
calm swallow
well.............. fck
gleaming siren
It's okay that's just normal warrior brain
warped bone
We all share the singular brain cell.
covert blaze
charred scroll
guys guys don't panic. we'll get buffs down the line for sure. don't ev- wait lemme just
okay as i was saying, we'll be fine guys dw
dapper goblet
madox for yellow
sullen dove
rt
sinful spoke
Xeos for ban
thick fossil
okay as i was saying, we'll be fine guys dw
lol
main dragon
Why ppl want col Fury? I would only stand for this if demolish was replaced by O...
Would actually feel pretty good, if demolish gave a few seconds of berserking
crimson briar
Xeos for ban
miss u man <3
pale sable
So they saw that dps warriors needed buffs, tested the buffs before making a post about, and then removed them?
I'm really curious why.
Not memeing or anything btw.
summer quail
So they saw that dps warriors needed buffs, tested the buffs before making a pos...
i do not think they tested the buffs
they got reverted really fast
like within a few hours
sudden tusk
they prob didnt even mean to push them
pale sable
So they just post stuff through official channels without even testing stuff?
Atleast to some degree?
summer quail
they prob didnt even mean to push them
ye i don't think so either
was a very weird time to announce buffs
pale sable
I'm not on the ptr and I will continue to main my warrior. How are they looking in the ptr atm?
summer quail
I'm not on the ptr and I will continue to main my warrior. How are they looking ...
uhh not great. assuming they gives us those buffs this upcoming week, then we're prob okay
pale sable
both specs bottom 5
hurts my warriors soul tbh
summer quail
i think it's likely we get these buffs tho. i also assume we see other tuning in general soon
pale sable
i think it's likely we get these buffs tho. i also assume we see other tuning in...
one can hope ❤️
sinful spoke
miss u man <3
Wtf peko how u doing
modest condor
most likely because there was something unrelated to the size of the buffs that caused them to have to revert it
fiery tide
most likely because there was something unrelated to the size of the buffs that ...
probably cause fury did more dmg then ret, and we all know we cant have that
sullen dove
real
young swan
the buffs werent even active for 5 minutes
nocturne salmon
young swan
literally impossible to gauge any strength increases
modest condor
sigh
nocturne salmon
buffs were for mages instead
modest condor
i wish everybody would just stop reporting on things that happen on the ptr
it's so tiring
sinful spoke
Funkykitty more like stinkycat
dense elbow
You just jelly that I enjoy OF unashamedly. Not like you other deniers
sinful spoke
Its okay that u watch onlyfans content i dont judge you the rest of us dont
dense elbow
I only watch YouTube clips of ppl using OF, thank you very much
sinful spoke
Freaky
dense elbow
Soon OF will be buffed, you shall see
slim coral
yeah I replied after that part
slim coral
so when I tried to recconect the oil would redc me
slim coral
Y photoshopped the meters?
its in his youtube video what
sinful spoke
LOL
slim coral
sinful spoke
its in his youtube video what
I didnt finish it
slim coral
sinful spoke
Bazed for green name
modest condor
bazed for #7A7A7A name
sinful spoke
AYAYA?
modest condor
sullen dove
@slim coral grats on the poptart corndog trial
dapper goblet
lets get a perma mute on baze
sullen dove
🔁
modest condor
if we get one on xeos as well
modest condor
ok deal
sullen dove
he would take the sacrifice
sinful spoke
Xeos deserves poop green name
dapper goblet
marok only role
sullen dove
gromnak for yellow name
smoky vale
sinful spoke
gromnak for yellow name
!voteban swordfish
sullen dove
dense elbow
Btw, after all my runs, warrior just seem solid in m+. But I suspect the PuGs just bad.
Anyone got any m+ thoughts?
(PTR)
sinful spoke
Warrior bad buff
sullen dove
warrior bad buff
sinful spoke
sinful spoke
My 605 enhancement shammy mogs ur 650 warrior
dense elbow
Only half way a joke. I seen 620 enh burst 12 million
Luckily they an outlier, so not fair to compare against them
smoky vale
i dont get to do damage
kess legit evaporated every pack we faced
i didnt even have em for every pack
sinful spoke
Deserved for playing mage
sinful spoke
Im making shit up dw im bored
young swan
maroks role
dapper goblet
@foggy thicket blow up
young swan
@foggy thicket whens the next mcchicken one-shot
dapper goblet
so about that perma mute
sour frigate
kess legit evaporated every pack we faced
I feel u
slim coral
so about that perma mute
sour frigate
Ench literally deleted every pack in cot15 i couldn't even play my buttons
Cuz were both 2 min specs
dense elbow
If you played your warr, that wouldn't be an issue. Creating your own problems 
shame on you
sour frigate
True
I would be even lower 
Played elem today
Casually came and did 99 in shit gear without spymussy
And 2.4kk in nw like it was nothing
young swan
ele prob the most fun spec in the game
dense elbow
Xan rerolling to fit name colour, confirmed
young swan
not rerolling shit
not playing the game until new patch is announced
havent even logged in for the final ring upgrade
golden hare
@quartz pumice poser
young swan
real
dense elbow
I would believe it, but Xan said ele is fun... Actually, the most fun spec in the game.
Clearly a shaman main
young swan
my shaman is 590
ivory ingot
nerf fury
dense elbow
Nerf Fury indeed
eternal sundial
sour frigate
Ultrabis
dapper goblet
xan is a rare actually committed blue name
i believe thats called being a otp
sullen dove
stockholm syndrome
bitter palm
dapper goblet
masochist
sour frigate
I just did build i played in df...
sullen dove
powerful ability
sour frigate
At least something close to it
gleaming siren
Dimensional Rift is the SMF of Destro
gleaming siren
Without a whole tier bonus to enable it it really is trash
gleaming siren
That was part of the tier bonus ye
Turned into a talent
Still bad cause it's just too many points for the output
sour frigate
Dont feel soul burn gameplay good tbh
gleaming siren
Shadowburn kinda carries the spec
sour frigate
Ah ye shadowburn
gleaming siren
For better or worse
sour frigate
I dont feel aoe value and that shit with sniping...
gleaming siren
Sniping isn't really what you're going for
quartz pumice
<@238357283996696576> poser
Proper fury people living in their one channel. Smh.
golden hare
real
clever belfry
Shadowburn kinda carries the spec
i know another thing that's carried by 1 thing
gleaming siren
i know another thing that's carried by 1 thing
🙂
Hey Anda
How do I do the best possible damage from range as Fury Warrior help me
lapis shadow
Throw weapon 
If this is Kyveza, and your tanks are melee range during intermission, that is useless. We let our tanks go far away during intermission to squeeze as much dmg as possible
clever belfry
How do I do the best possible damage from range as Fury Warrior help me
is this the roll raid
clever belfry
If this is Kyveza, and your tanks are melee range during intermission, that is u...
u squeeze more by playing good and having them in
lapis shadow
u squeeze more by playing good and having them in
With 11 melees that's gonna be fun
lapis shadow
Aware
gleaming siren
is this the roll raid
No this is a screenshot I have acquired of a raid I'm not part of
Thank fuck
If I got that assigned I'd have internet issues
tulip rivet
Has anyone ever used a 636 Algari Alchemist Stone instead of an Ara-Kara sacbrood? curious to see the difference in dps
fervent yoke
After they rug pulled the buffs have we heard anything?
tulip rivet
I just ran a sim, supposedly 15k dps loss with the 636 stone over a 626 sacbrood
pretty wild
radiant plank
Alch trinket bad
compact siren
Schmidi 👑 how to damgur 🧎♂️➡️
placid adder
RIP season 2
radiant plank
Petkotierlist check
placid adder
don't forget according to blue post at start of PTR, blizzard devs think "warrior is in a good place"
jolly marten
they realized their mistake listening to the communitys feedback
next mirage
RIP season 2
Rogue doesn't exist xD
fleet forge
how big is the difference between S and C? are we talking 5% or 50%?
south kayak
Oh no, it's the daily tierlist dooming
jolly marten
how big is the difference between S and C? are we talking 5% or 50%?
it depends from the circumstances.. the bottomline is that no matter how good you play you will feel week af playing a C tier spec
fleet forge
ah
flat river
RIP season 2
The 20% buffs aren't out yet though?
They should make recklessness enrage you
So we can burst while enraged
red berry
there's so many things they could change to make fury more palatable in terms of playstyle that they refuse to do
15% more damage to raging blow and bloodthirst
flat river
there's so many things they could change to make fury more palatable in terms of...
To warrior*
Not just fury
Arms too
red berry
yeah i suppose arms does get that case, too
flat river
In my opinion
Bring back legion arms
Buff fury execute
Make bloodcraze instead of interacting with raging blow: each rampage strike has a 25% chance to increase the crit chance of your next bloodthirst by 15%
Since its coming down from rampage into bloodthirst side it should not have an interaction with raging blow
Makes no sense
And remove the stat talents
Add oathblood
Make onslaught an actual button
Rework UF to instead extend the duration of your active recklessness when you press rampage by 2 seconds
(but only if you take RA)
Make it do something else if you take AM
Like how guardian of ursoc and convoke the spirits next node does something different for each
Revert odyns fury to NOT have a softcap on DOT damage
south kayak
Rework UF to instead extend the duration of your active recklessness when you pr...
That's just infinite reck lol
and they don't want that
gleaming siren
RIP season 2
If you look at the petko tierlist ESPECIALLY before season launch acquire aid immediately
south kayak
neither do I
flat river
That's just infinite reck lol
Nah make it max like 16 seconds
flat river
Nah make it max like 16 seconds
Add a hardcap to the amount of uptime u can have
flat river
I want stronger reck
Im saying make it for RA only
AM gets another effect
RA reckless is strong
With the bloodthirst bleed
gleaming siren
Reck needs less uptime extension effects and more of a defined window
uptime extensions are how you get dogwater cooldowns
smoky vale
define deez
flat river
Ok make it give you an extra 10% haste
gleaming siren
and if you hardcap it it's the same as just.. making the cooldown window longer
gleaming siren
define deez
bunnygirl
smoky vale
what if it says do 1000x morbillion damage
flat river
Ok but i cooked though
smoky vale
thoughts
flat river
With the other stuff
flat river
I just found out there is a Chef title in WoW and im ashamed to say i do not have it
Need to work on it
south kayak
uptime extensions are how you get dogwater cooldowns
Real
fossil solar
Im kind of torn. Ses1 had fury warriors being S tier by a mile and we were heavily nerferd several times to a completley average joe atm. I would rather see us coming in in ses 2 a bit behind and seeing us climbing steady than a repeat of ses 1.
The bottom line is that a class will (to some extent, always fluctuate during a season, with some obv always getting the love from Blizz..)
proven hornet
unreal onyx
Is the raid dmg buff done at some point or keeps going until the end of season?
unreal onyx
Im kind of torn. Ses1 had fury warriors being S tier by a mile and we were heavi...
I don’t think we‘ll see fury on top for a long time now going forward
Raid was designed for fury in S1 so we excelled
And then we got nerfed to the ground
clever belfry
If you look at the petko tierlist ESPECIALLY before season launch acquire aid im...
funnily enough petkomegalul tierlist is probably the most reasonable pre release one
yet it is a tierlist
based upon pre-pre-release data
so its still absolutely worthless clickbait
fossil solar
😭
placid adder
Like how guardian of ursoc and convoke the spirits next node does something diff...
dont make good suggestions in this channel. Blizzard devs actively read this thread to implement the exact opposite
placid adder
Im kind of torn. Ses1 had fury warriors being S tier by a mile and we were heavi...
we were S tier for anything up to mythic 5 because our damage was so frontloaded. as soon as mobs stayed alive for more than a few minutes, we were average joes already. It was just really unlucky that we got the nerf bat before blizzard let the season play out
fossil solar
we were S tier for anything up to mythic 5 because our damage was so frontloaded...
I do agree, they hit us way too hard hard and to fast
sage karma
And left shaman to be broken all season 🙂
I don't think I've ever been as annoyed at blizzard as I was when they nerfed fury for like 3 weeks in a row
and then immediately broke shaman
iron portal
<@238357283996696576> poser
Tsk tsk tsk
golden hare
what are you tsking me for 👯
sonic shoal
For being the prince-ss
unreal onyx
Have yall heard of a cheese strat on queen with roaring war-queens citrine and thunderlords crackling citrine?
RL wants us to use those tomorrow but hasnt said anything about a strat yet
hardy bluff
if you make it that far to use it you can just kill it
its not crazy
its like 2% or 3% boss hp i think
granite crown
RL wants us to use those tomorrow but hasnt said anything about a strat yet
If you're still progging your damage in P2 (which gets trolled by running shit gems in split teams) is likely more important than bossdamage in P1/P3, it's mostly a meme for parsing for the 4 people running damage proc gem
chrome plover
Have yall heard of a cheese strat on queen with roaring war-queens citrine and t...
it's a way to get 4-5 people a good parse that's for sure
idk if it's actually good for killing the boss
oh rhoon already said
chrome plover
yes
exactly that
it causes the 4 players with thunderlords to proc way more
whilst the rest obviously lose their yellow gem of choice
analog rivet
not sure if that is even a raidDPS increase
unreal onyx
We are still semi-progging P1, I1
analog rivet
oh well
unreal onyx
Made it to I1 a couple times
analog rivet
at what % do you go into I1 if you make it?
analog rivet
oof
chrome plover
none of the top 10 speed guilds are running it
chrome plover
We are still semi-progging P1, I1
i really think it makes 0 difference to your prog then
unreal onyx
Kinda same, dmg is secondary if people keep dying to web blades or acid
chrome plover
yep
analog rivet
do you have a resto sham?
unreal onyx
do you have a resto sham?
No, but one ele and enh
analog rivet
ankh totem is so helpful with the hard webblaed sets, saves us like 10 P1 pulls in reclear
unreal onyx
I am shocked to see me in top5 on a lot of pulls in P1 with only boss dmg, no pad
granite crown
It does troll your healing if you healers aren't using stat gems though
granite crown
Your guild is ass my dude, talking purely DPS output
Granted a lot of this is Fury holding damage for adds in P3
chrome plover
yeah that's not really a good metric to go by
radiant plank
holding damage?
radiant plank
you get natty lineups
granite crown
you get natty lineups
Ya but you're not pressing CDs and railing into boss like you're doing in P1, so it's not really comparable
oblique trail
Your guild is ass my dude, talking purely DPS output
Would argue this is not the case at all 👍
Speaking from personal experience, you can definitely do good boss DPS in both P1 and P3 as Fury
And I'd also argue my guild is not what I'd call ass either
radiant plank
And I'd also argue my guild is not what I'd call ass either
Danish = ass
radiant plank
Finnish = also ass
Im international now
oblique trail
Mr. worldwide
radiant plank
Really am
smoky vale
Mr. worldwide
mr 305
granite crown
Would argue this is not the case at all 👍
Must be my warriors are giga aoe focused then, just haven't seen them at all in P1
oblique trail
I have plenty of times been top 5~ during all of prog and all our reclears
Though this was arguably my best P1 damage, from 5 days ago
Fury's ST though can be quite RNG on top of if you just don't play well
fading sky
Timings 100% matter
oblique trail
But unlike other specs, Fury can also just hammer CDs all of P1 without having to hold for intermission, which inflates how much boss damage you actually get to do in P1, relative to other specs which theoretically should be able to do more
fading sky
Exactly
pulsar quest
i was top 5 alot during queen prog
during p1 sometimes with good procs i would be 1/2
during p3 i was definitely top 5
p1 you get like 3 sets of cds so
right around the last pop i usually would be around top 3 with good procs
granite crown
Though this was arguably my best P1 damage, from 5 days ago
Ah we're running a few specs that just pop off P1, double ret etc. So maybe warriors are always ~6th and just outside my dps meter XD
fading sky
Ret pops
chrome plover
that is p1 damage
coarse nest
Ahh word
warm zephyr
are there any new builds floating around for the PTR? I wanted to try some out this weekend on the PTR
dense elbow
It is just meta builds with the new talents, nothing really changed so far
So just so live builds and play around with them as a base
warm zephyr
okay thanks!
compact siren
@oblique trail where are your hosen rn?
upbeat idol
quick question , so im currently using transmitter and Mark of Khardros , shall i pick skarmorak shard and use it with mark of khardros or just go for the belt with socket?
my trinkets are hero track , shard is myth trade from the vault , think its worth it ?
oblique trail
Just pick the shard, and get a hero track sacbrood
Ideally you don't play 2x on-use outside of Broodtwister
undone flower
this game isnt real man
I stopped doing vault bc of that
Only 1 item missing, sacbrood, my hunt dropped it in his first 1 chest vault
covert blaze
why does every character but my warrior
i have 2 M transmitter on non-main characters
main halo
dense elbow
We are always fine, wdum
thick fossil
One that consulted a crystal ball for the future.
fast mural
this guy doesnt understand how tier lists affect the game
not tierlists in this format
glad coyote
not tierlists in this format
doesnt matter if we are truely C-tier we are deleted
fast mural
its not as screenshottable as a dratnos tierlist
glad coyote
if we are c tier before season even drops good luck getting into any keys for m+ or pug raids and you'll be the laughing stock of your raid
fast mural
also its realy funny how they push a tierlist when tuning can change on raid release
plush flower
tier lists do not matter if you're good at the game. gg
fast mural
if we are c tier before season even drops good luck getting into any keys for m+...
who the fuck reads icyveins ?
glad coyote
alot of people tbh i dont but people dude
plush flower
who the fuck reads icyveins ?
also this
fast mural
alot of people tbh i dont but people dude
they are not gonna be in your keys so dont worry
if wowhead ranks us bad then its truly over 
plush flower
if people are basing who they are inviting to keys based off tier lists, chances are those keys are lower than you would want to do anyway
glad coyote
if people are basing who they are inviting to keys based off tier lists, chances...
are you new to this game lol?
fast mural
good thing i only do +10s for weeklys
i dont have to care about tuning
as long as i have battleshout for raid
plush flower
are you new to this game lol?
no I just play with better players lmao
dense elbow
As tierlist is based on the formed meta, just handwaving that info away is kinda silly.
Not saying you cant go full non meta comp, but when meta DPS perform up to 30% better... Ye, maybe at least bring some meta in your keys for ease of timer
glad coyote
people will always bring a meta class over non meta when available
dense elbow
Clicks gonna click $$$
undone flower
this guy doesnt understand how tier lists affect the game
They affect it for 1 week max 1 month then the meta is settled with the tuning after the world first
Until .5
dense elbow
Then there is a new tierlist, wdum 
fast mural
aug S tier color me shocked
but they dont affect tanks and healers anymore how can they still be S 
fast mural
dont trust icyveins
undone flower
Im evoker next season, I hope it is fun
fast mural
you poor thing
undone flower
Guild asked me
glad coyote
funny how evoker is still s tier yet they got nerfed more in ptr
dense elbow
At least you get invited to content, so you be happy probs
fast mural
no its over
fast mural
pick your poison i see
indigo arch
dense elbow
No
Gaz on boomerang
Big dam
If you hit it perfectly on CD and it doesn't miss going through everything
lethal phoenix
Hey guys, I'm hitting significantly below my sim in single target on the dummy. I'm at around 850k sustained no buffs and the sim is at 1.17m. I'm not certain what I'm doing wrong. Here's the details from the target dummy:
lethal phoenix
I think I choose patchwerk
frank dawn
patchwerk sim has full raid buffs
fast mural
patchwork has BL all buffs execute phase
lethal phoenix
I removed the raid buffs
dense elbow
Remember DPS go up on execute, so that a big loss too from sims
If you want a real breakdown, bring logs to #449510248579858432
Kinda hard to guess your key presses
fast mural
also quick sim should give you an optimal dmg breakdown
undone flower
And also : you are not a robot
fast mural
and dmg variance depending on rng
lethal phoenix
Ok removing execute phase put me closer, but still 200k away
undone flower
Just aim to have around 10-5% lower than sim
lethal phoenix
From what I can see, my bladestorm damage is low
dense elbow
Or be above when the god RNG hits 
fast mural
maybe bad slayer strike rng so you missed out on 1 BS cast
undone flower
Or when the boss dies in 3 min or 5 min x (when cd comes back up)
lethal phoenix
Am I supposed to wait on avatar for bladestorm?
dense elbow
Well, BS is sent with first avatar, 2nd after OF that gives ava
lethal phoenix
OF?
fast mural
odyns fury
dense elbow
Odyns furt
undone flower
Only fans
lethal phoenix
Oh I'm not taking Odyn's Fury
fast mural
static ridge
hi guys
dense elbow
Hi
lethal phoenix
RIght but my sim is also not taking OF and it has 10% BS damage and I have 4%
oblique trail
BS does not need OF to do damage
static ridge
how are warrior dps for season 1 tww and how do they look for ptr and what do we think will be better for season 2 arms or fury
oblique trail
RIght but my sim is also not taking OF and it has 10% BS damage and I have 4%
I'm almost certain the sim accounts Unhinged as BS damage
But I have not looked in a while
oblique trail
That is not what I said
dense elbow
True, true
outer umbra
dense elbow
Dam is dam
oblique trail
OF brainrot
dense elbow
dense elbow
OF is the best ability in the game
fast mural
ew
dense elbow
Instant AoE dam, can't be beaten
fast mural
i do love getting aggro within only 1 gcd
dense elbow
how are warrior dps for season 1 tww and how do they look for ptr and what do we...
We are fine, quite good in raid. Decent in m+. It looks to be around the same in S2, but early to say
dense elbow
i do love getting aggro within only 1 gcd
Only if you don't hold or play with a crap tank
fast mural
i went arms on ansurekt so our enhance shaman would get meleed instead 
undone flower
Instant AoE dam, can't be beaten
Beaten by 2 % haste and 2 rage
static ridge
for how many weeks or month do we need to wait until season 2 tww release ?
dense elbow
For what data? M+? If so after the RWF
undone flower
My RL bet it’s 3 weeks : NO SHOT
oblique trail
He's just asking when S2 releases
dense elbow
*Beaten by 2 % haste and 2 rage*
Ouch, too real
fast mural
best version of fury was when we used siegebraker change my mind
dense elbow
Siegebreaker was unnecessary clunk
static ridge
will the theater event be getting upgrade for gear in season 2 ?
oblique trail
Siege added nothing to the spec apart from press button do a bit more damage
undone flower
will the theater event be getting upgrade for gear in season 2 ?
There is a new zone
fast mural
will the theater event be getting upgrade for gear in season 2 ?
pretty much every open world thing will get scaled up
dense elbow
Yeah, all world content usually gets it's baseline bumped
fast mural
Siegebreaker was unnecessary clunk
but big number 
dense elbow
but big number <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Made things clunk. Die hurricane jr. effects! Die!
fast mural
the only big number we get now is 3 stacks execute before 35%
fast mural
3mil is big for fury standards
dense elbow
fast mural
without offhand that is
undone flower
In MoP chaos bolts was crazy dmg compared to hp in PvP from what I remember, I don’t recall what were the digits tho
fast mural
or a bowling ball
dense elbow
I see it constantly as a :O face looking up to the comment above
fast mural
I see it constantly as a :O face looking up to the comment above
thats actually such a great use for that , we should normalize that
fast mural
<a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
frigid zealot
holyt
modest condor
damn big change to m+ stuff
starting at +12, whenever you have timed all dungeons at a certain keylevel, your key will no longer deplete below that level
fickle bluff
thats not news
modest condor
Chatting it is
fickle bluff
we've known about not depleting below 12 for a long time
modest condor
the previous system was that if you had 2850 rating you would no longer drop below 12
modest condor
this is a massive difference compared to that
undone flower
That is big changes indeed
modest condor
i said that 4 minutes ago shaking my smh my head
fickle bluff
was the crawler mount attached to keystone legend?
undone flower
Tbh the remove of guile is the big changes for me
fast mural
its still a thing above 12 no?
modest condor
yeah but most people arent doing 12+ keys
undone flower
its still a thing above 12 no?
From what I read it is removed
modest condor
below +12 yes
undone flower
below +12 yes
Guile is the 10% hp buff not the death penalty
modest condor
oh
that was already long gone
was never gonna be a thing in s2 in the first place
instead they just made keys above +12 scale faster
modest condor
or am i still thinking of the wrong thing?
fast mural
oh its the +12 thing
coarse nest
The fact that it’s forever raising with your key levels is so good
fast mural
undone flower
was it just baseline 10% hp on mobs ?
It was 20%
fast mural
they need better names for those affixes
i know what all of them do but i dont know any of those names
undone flower
Before the nerf of guile a 12 was around a 13-14 now
modest condor
ill be honest i never learned the actual names of the mechanics
fast mural
CC week
orb week
shield add week
dire vigil
Guile is now challengers peril and the current guile is gone
modest condor
the only things i knew was the extra death penalty at +7 and the extra stats at +12
south kayak
CC week
orb week
shield add week
Same, I actually don't know any of their names lmao
thick fossil
That's actually really cool.
clever path
was the crawler mount attached to keystone legend? <:detective:91234131290737868...
hey gregor onoson can i see your logs please can you link them
fickle bluff
no pauck
clever path
why
undone flower
And also good changes : overall m+ lvl number increase with the % nerf from 2-10
south kayak
They did fix my issue with orb, it was happening during stuff like intermissions where u couldn't really move a lot (Duo SV boss)
modest condor
im pretty sure they completely reworked that affix
thick fossil
Something tells me it will be a lot easier hitting 3k next season.
modest condor
it's now an orb that rotates around players and another player has to walk into it or something?
fast mural
attaches to players now
south kayak
im pretty sure they completely reworked that affix
They did
south kayak
it's now an orb that rotates around players and another player has to walk into ...
Yes
fast mural
looks stupid af
south kayak
It's way better than the current version
undone flower
Something tells me it will be a lot easier hitting 3k next season.
They removed guile AND nerfed m+ % per lvl so yes
south kayak
what's the highest M+ done rn
thick fossil
modest condor
20
south kayak
if it's 20 rn, what do you reckon next season would be
modest condor
quite a bit higher
undone flower
27 mark my word
fast mural
so we going back to 30
modest condor
i think it's closer to 23 than 27 tho
because we do have the 12% scaling past +12 still afaik
fast mural
as long as scaling isnt changed its not gonna be alot more
thick fossil
Nah, I don't think we'll see any higher than 25. Course a lot of this depends on class tuning. So maybe?
modest condor
if my math is correct (which it probably isnt) then current current +20 is roughly the same as new +25
undone flower
as long as scaling isnt changed its not gonna be alot more
It is changed from 2-10
So it impacts above too
fast mural
2-10 what
modest condor
i could be off by like 3 keylevels
mossy fox
smoother difficulty curve letsgoooo
wont be a massive difference per keylevel anymore, thats nice
modest condor
let me reread what the post said
undone flower
2-10 what
From 2-10 each lvl would be 7% increase from the one before, and above it remains at 10%
From the post
modest condor
ok im definitely off
from what i can see it's just gonna stay 10% per level past 12?
undone flower
And no jump of 30%+ from 11 to 12
modest condor
no that was gone already from the start
they instead changed it to 12% scaling per keylevel
but i cant find if that's still gonna be there
undone flower
Yes it’s just I think it is not just 3 lvl next top keys
modest condor
actually it was 20% not 30%, they lowered it early in season 1
coarse nest
Doesn’t it read 7% per level up to 10 and then the normal 10% per level past that?
modest condor
yes
coarse nest
And on live it’s 12% past what 11?
modest condor
no
on live it's always 10%
but initially they were gonna make it 12% past +12 in season 2
undone flower
But from 2 to infinite
modest condor
and they dont mention that anymore in the new post
coarse nest
Oh that must be where the 12 in my head is coming from then
That’s good then imo smoother difficulty progression is +++
sudden tusk
smoother difficulty curve letsgoooo
yeah i think these changes being great for the entire playerbase as well as the high key doers
undone flower
And more key lvl before top keys is good too
sudden tusk
is a fantastic direction on top of doing this INSTEAD of killing delvs for those players that enjoyed that
delve rewards not being axed and making M+ easier is a big dub for the overall playerbase
coarse nest
Completely agree
modest condor
we'll have to see how the no-depletion affects the intermediate range between +12 and title
coarse nest
we'll have to see how the no-depletion affects the intermediate range between +1...
It’ll just enable people with more time to beat head on wall until they get a win
I guess the system kinda works like that already tbf
sudden tusk
high keyers gonna sell 15s like hotcakes
fast mural
they dont deplete but do they change dungeon ?
sudden tusk
when their keys cant deplete
modest condor
they dont deplete but do they change dungeon ?
i would assume so
coarse nest
high keyers gonna sell 15s like hotcakes
Imagine the 15s sales
fast mural
so depleting a key is still losing the dungeon
i gues thats good
modest condor
so depleting a key is still losing the dungeon
i gues thats good
i mean if you're missing the timer you just go out and try again
if you want a different key then yeah you're probably just gonna be able to finish it anyway
fast mural
yeah i was talking about not beating timer if the dungeon on the key would change
cause wouldnt it just become a reset simulator at that point
modest condor
but i reckon people would rather do that by timing a different key
undone flower
yeah i was talking about not beating timer if the dungeon on the key would chang...
It is already a reset simulator but you have to do 10 different dungeons to have another try
wary fjord
it could be any time
south kayak
fast mural
the decimals got rounded
undone flower
if its your key ye
Well it will be a reset simulator for key holder, you will get kicked if you fail you know that
wary fjord
above 30 minutes
south kayak
sheesh
wary fjord
its randomized
the timer
when you put in the key, it can be anything above 30 minutes
south kayak
please tell me one of those are the ones spamming lightning bolt
sudden tusk
@mossy fox
south kayak
What are Cursed Thunderers doing
Baron Braunpyke’s Hammer of Purity movement speed reduced by 40%
Are those the hammers spinning outward
Well, this season is shaping up to be much better than s1
sour elbow
These are all good changes, excited to enjoy keys again.... but I want my buffs back 😦
south kayak
You'll get em
fast mural
i still dont trust the minecart part
the only good patchnote that can exist for that is "has been removed"
rigid stirrup
no more stats stacking on stats lets go
did it say anywhere in the post of the kiss/curses being in +12 and above keys?
edit apparently not
thick fossil
@sudden tusk Shave it bald, pull it off like Jason Statham.
sudden tusk
<@110993922691477504> Shave it bald, pull it off like Jason Statham.
lmao
south kayak
Surely something’s coming after these m+ updates
dense elbow
"We are happy with how warrior is performing (...) Aura mod -33%
flat river
chrome wraith
modest condor
internet explorer finally finished loading?
dense elbow
sullen dove
Peril gone until 12 huge w
flat river
real
sullen dove
also removing the extra scaling stats instead prolly better for pushers anyway
even if them losers gotta deal with peril xdd
but the no deplete thing sounds cool but also eh kinda gamey
winter shoal
They said they raised the base of +0 and then the scaling from 10%->7% per key level, is it safe to assume that ~+10 is roughly the same difficulty as before?
Or is it free as fuck
sullen dove
tho idk maybe not the absolute worst it wont not go down for push keys just all 15s if you screw up a 15 don’t have to be forced to do a 14 when you’re looking for 16s
but failing a 16 still puts you to 15
Wonder if that has to be like everyone in the group tho
would think it gotta be cuz you could just have unlimited attempts at a 15 or whatever to boost people to title until you get every dungeon
but shrugga
frank dawn
yo dawgs, I've got season 2 figured out
After thorough testing on the ptr, intensive theorycrafting and countless simulations, I've come to the conclusion.. we gotta buff mistweaver damage by like 30% and nerf fury war
dense elbow
Checks out
undone flower
After thorough testing on the ptr, intensive theorycrafting and countless simula...
But every boss will have 45 sec adds window to nerf warrior again 1 week after season start
frank dawn
FUUUUUUUUU
undone flower
I correct myself it was 3 days after
dense elbow
But every boss will have 45 sec adds window to nerf warrior again 1 week after s...
Stop That hits too close to home
Damn raid and its AoE mobs that live for 4 sec
undone flower
Damn raid and its AoE mobs that live for 4 sec
our aoe burst last less than me in bed
dense elbow
lament otter
"We are happy with how warrior is performing (...) Aura mod -33%
Aura mod?
oblique trail
Aura mod?
Aura is a global modifier to any spec that affects (almost always) everything, that Devs can use to tune the entirety of a spec in one go
So when you see "Increased X specs ability damage by 6%" it means roughly a 6%~ increase to their damage, typically less because of external damage sources and it doesn't affect auto attacks
dense elbow
Aura mods usually come in, when they happy with the profile, but not the damage. Currently they just trying to tune things to be somewhere they feel is ok.
When you see aura mods, the devs either out of ideas or they really happy where we at.
thick fossil
internet explorer finally finished loading?
dense elbow
Trigger warning:
frank dawn
sour frigate
Trigger warning:
compact knot
Trigger warning:
bro couldnt finish signing up to the one below it before being declined instantly
dense elbow
Titles change, sign ups last forever
fast mural
good point
btw is there a reason we can only sign up to 5 at the same time
and why isnt there an addon that automates this
dense elbow
Same reason why there isnt a system that just auto ques you to all 14s at once
fast mural
narrow narwhal
Trigger warning:
Try 10s
narrow narwhal
Try 2s
sour frigate
legendary m0 world tour
dense elbow
Still dont get invited
sour frigate
I would sacrifice my key if i had one
dense elbow
♥
chilly compass
Hello warriors, during burst are we meant to hold OF until AV is about to expire or full send?
hardy bluff
you hold until the bleed runs out
summer quail
doesn't need to have fully ran out
hardy bluff
yea pandemic
summer quail
below 1 sec it will add duration
chilly compass
Gotcha, thanks yall
hollow elk
Trigger warning:
me but on +10s unless i tank 
dense elbow
🫂
dense elbow
Where execute buff?
dense elbow
oh well, at least OF got buffed, so I am happy
iron portal
Execute doesnt deserve its name for many years now
dapper goblet
warrior is the new moonkin
dense elbow
Explain
dapper goblet
no
pulsar quest
owned
queen solstice
my bretheren we are back
dense elbow
now we just brace ourselves for a week of "Is warrior meta now? Arms or Fury" again
sullen dove
bro said arms xdd
runic cypress
Hold your horses everyone
queen solstice
okay everyone sandbag the first week of heroic
runic cypress
Just wait a few hours maybe its "REVERTED"
dense elbow
huehuehue
hardy bluff
okay everyone sandbag the first week of heroic
theres no heroic week
queen solstice
oh right
sullen dove
good
queen solstice
but we still sandbag right
pulsar quest
Yes
sullen dove
i like how the only people who complain about no heroic week are rwf people and then they also say "they shouldnt make decisions for the game based around us"
blow up
pulsar quest
i like how the only people who complain about no heroic week are rwf people and ...
go off king
queen solstice
I mean i think they are talking about tunning and design mainly
sullen dove
eh whats a heroic week gonna do for that
brood still sucked for the first month on mythic
queen solstice
basically just means more time for splits
queen solstice
I mean if anything no heroic weeks makes things more interesting for us the viewers right
main dragon
Is there a way to disable the horrible looking red smoke that happens when you enrage?
queen solstice
turn your graphics off
dense elbow
but we never left?
sour elbow
The meat stays strong
queen solstice
oh we left
sudden thicket
OF buffed just in time for heroic week
can't wait to prog for a month after rwf with an overnerfed spec again
runic cypress
<:Hydrate:690891013350228028> but we never left?
Our smile and optimism left
main dragon
Seems too good to be true. They definitely gonna change this later
lapis shadow
Seems too good to be true. They definitely gonna change this later
Reverted S1 and some juicy buffs
sullen dove
there are too many numbers and they are too big
lapis shadow
so yes its gonna get reverted again
sullen dove
we most certainly will be need to be hit with at least 3 nerfs next season
dense elbow
too soon to nerf just yet, we not already started to fall behind
Nerfs only hit after that happens
winter shoal
"Bloodbath instant damage increased"
I'm crying in the club rn
pulsar quest
7k BT with BoP and Vc incoming
winter shoal
The BB bleed was the only good part of new RA
dire vigil
Avatar windows are going to be fattt
jolly marten
I think Fury will perform better in raid and arms in m+
winter shoal
@sudden tusk what do we think bud
dense elbow
Ok I will agree, based on that is what I want
winter shoal
Arms tier or
dire vigil
And then by default it’ll be fury in high keys because of the passive tankiness
compact knot
And then by default it’ll be fury in high keys because of the passive tankiness
it wont be fury, arms or prot because we wont be meta in high keys
lean heart
if yall would please consult the flow chart
dire vigil
it wont be fury, arms or prot because we wont be meta in high keys
Any chance arms is?
winter shoal
The first time I die to demolish rooting me will be the last time I play colossus
sudden tusk
Arms tier or
Even with the fury buffs. Almost every boss looks like its designed for arms
winter shoal
Even with the fury buffs. Almost every boss looks like its designed for arms
ik I was mostly just fuckin with the other guy
main dragon
The first time I die to demolish rooting me will be the last time I play colossu...
Fr I wish they just let you use it on the move
compact knot
Any chance arms is?
nah
dire vigil
Pain.
main dragon
Completely ruins the flow of colossus
sudden tusk
both will be playable prob but i bet arms has the edge
main dragon
Like why am i standing still? I aint no spell caster ffs
pulsar quest
They heard we loved fyralath use so they wanted to give us a permanent version of it
surreal token
If Arms is the choice over fury, it won't be because it's better, it'll be because Fury's just assssssssssssss
redesigned RA makes me wanna 😠 🔫
sullen dove
so now that its like actually done it is just you spamming bb for a minute long dot right
surreal token
"20% buff to a spell that u cast for 15s every 1m30s
sullen dove
like the dot actually perma stacks up
eternal canopy
steep lynx
lets be real nerfed week 1 with 2 weeks of 5% buffs
sullen dove
yep cocka
fickle bluff
so now that its like actually done it is just you spamming bb for a minute long ...
maybe if they didnt nerf roar, but doesnt look like it atm
sullen dove
maybe if they didnt nerf roar, but doesnt look like it atm
as in thats not the mechanic or its so bad you dont play it anymore
sullen dove
yea i mean stupid change anyway
sudden tusk
the bleed should just stack man
theres no world where you want to stack a 40+second long bleed for damage
sullen dove
wouldnt mind some amount of stacking but think should jsut pandemic at most
sudden tusk
or it should compound i mean
sullen dove
like the new "cool thing" that ra does making cb bb always avail
aside from however often you gotta hit bb with bloodcrazes maybe
think itd make way more sense to just spam the shit out of cb
if its always avail
surreal token
so now that its like actually done it is just you spamming bb for a minute long ...
ain't no way the dot goes up to anyting more than like 40seconds
sullen dove
but if ur trying to perma build up a long dot then its just bb > cb > bb > cb > bb > cb
and how is that any different to what it is now
surreal token
I got 22s by the time Reck ended
sullen dove
just during cds
dire vigil
Make consuming sudden death procs do all the remaining bleed damage at once
To give us a reason to press the button
dapper goblet
madox for yellow
fickle bluff
ain't no way the dot goes up to anyting more than like 40seconds
if you your goal is to extend the bleed you can easily fit 2 45s roars
surreal token
but if ur trying to perma build up a long dot then its just bb > cb > bb > cb > ...
I did
BB>CB>Ramp repeat
sullen dove
yea i mean u prolly dont need as many ramps
presuming its less damage than the other two abilities
pulsar quest
Could you possible do bb-cb-bb ramp
sullen dove
just there to keep up enrage
surreal token
oh nvm I wasn't RE speced
pulsar quest
Just use ramp to extend enrage
sullen dove
if ramp is better than both cb and bb then actually why the fuck does new ra exist
fickle bluff
BB > BS > BB, then BB every 3rd global and your bleed will last a while
winter shoal
if you your goal is to extend the bleed you can easily fit 2 45s roars
Greg is it looking like an uproar/twords angle so far?
fickle bluff
no its looking like a take no capstones angle
fickle bluff
both fury and arms are doing this atm
meager gyro
so they buffed arms more than than buff fury and fury was in the gutter
acoustic seal
bros.....
surreal token
if ramp is better than both cb and bb then actually why the fuck does new ra exi...
new RA shouldn't exist ever
pulsar quest
All my homies hate capstones
sullen dove
ain no way the dinky ass lil 2% crit 2% haste whatever talents better
that shit mid as hell
smoky vale
you fine as hell
sullen dove
pause
smoky vale
pulsar quest
AYO
sudden tusk
both fury and arms are doing this atm
listen man warrior is not allowed to have good capstones
if the class has good capstones we get nerfed 30%
sullen dove
fury capstone moment
thick fossil
the bleed should just stack man
If they made it like Ignite I'd be happy.
fickle bluff
2% crit and 10% exe dam the whole time
or buff roar damage and a dot that doesnt do a whole lot of damage
surreal token
the burst is pretty nasty though
sullen dove
or get spear
thick fossil
I'm not convinced they're not going to nerf the shit out it once it hits live.
sullen dove
fickle bluff
but thane didnt get any better at ST
smoky vale
both fury and arms are doing this atm
is rhe right just ra with doi and uf
pulsar quest
Technically thane got better st with BT damage increase
thick fossil
maybe thane will use capstones then
I doubt OF will be a choice, and Onslaught? Uhhhhhhh?
fickle bluff
fury looks like that
sudden tusk
i mean one of the issues with OF is the fact you have to put 2 points into CT to even get it
sullen dove
surely wouldnt be giving up capstone points for previous stuff in the tree...
winter shoal
or get spear
Spear no buff BB dot though
fickle bluff
surely wouldnt be giving up capstone points for previous stuff in the tree...
SURELY
thick fossil
i mean one of the issues with OF is the fact you have to put 2 points into CT to...
Yup, and it's just not worth the 2 pts.
sullen dove
eh i mean just fuck the 2 middle points no
need 1 more in mastery guy but gotta odyns
winter shoal
DOI doesn't affect the reck proc from UF does it?
fickle bluff
nop
winter shoal
Unlucky
thick fossil
DOI doesn't affect the reck proc from UF does it?
That would be broken AF, lol
fickle bluff
yep
thick fossil
Yes sir, please give me Reck for 2 minutes. Depending on RNG. lol
lime bloom
So no buffs and I need to re roll arms?
thick fossil
Even if they changed it to 6% per Rampage hit wouldn't be enough really.
compact knot
eh i mean just fuck the 2 middle points no
i said this mentally first
just in my head
winter shoal
So no buffs and I need to re roll arms?
Some buffs but you should learn to play both anyways to be a well rounded gamer
marble schooner
Yes sir, please give me Reck for 2 minutes. Depending on RNG. lol
we had this alr wouldnt put it past blizz
compact knot
Is it thane or slayer btw
lime bloom
Some buffs but you should learn to play both anyways to be a well rounded gamer
I’ll only go to arms if it becomes better
marble schooner
Aberrus had like 90+% reck uptime
yup
thick fossil
I’ll only go to arms if it becomes better
Well, it might be.
winter shoal
OH in m+ probably thane angle I think, thane and aoe spec slayer were pretty similar single target in my testing