now hopefully they don't knee jerk nerf us
#fury
clever belfry
even if u buff it by 100% itll be dogshit tis okay
glad coyote
daddys here boys
slim coral
flat river
like
edgy widget
OF might still be a little low after the loss of Titan's Torment, though keep in mind that's mitigated by the gain from using Berserkers instead - the talent might not be as much insta-burst, but it's not a complete loss either
balmy shore
https://tenor.com/view/glorp-booty-shake-glorp-throwing-it-back-glorp-twerk-gif-15728514058189514652
flat river
they buffed arms and PROT execute
vagrant imp
this is what Titus felt like when the Emp talked to him
quiet geyser
even if u buff it by 100% itll be dogshit tis okay
thats the point though lmao, like fury needs it the most!
clever belfry
🎰
wraith wharf
happy for the buffs but yeah not buffing execute.. yikes
frank dawn
I am impressed that they made execute even worse for fury
edgy widget
they buffed arms and PROT execute
cause they're the same spell, chances are they didn't actually intend to buff Prots but just can't be bothered to separate them
like last time lol
vagrant imp
I am impressed that they made execute even worse for fury
🤣
quiet geyser
this just doesn't make sens to me. Fury's execute legit needs god
slim coral
OF might still be a little low after the loss of Titan's Torment, though keep in...
Imma test it in a dungeon rn
frank dawn
I mean it’s great tuning for thane lmao
dense elbow
Nein
smoky vale
flat river
no execute buff = no lock in
edgy widget
I mean it’s great tuning for thane lmao
Yeah that is a very good point
smoky vale
smoky vale
no execute buff = no lock in
LOCK IN
dense elbow
The changes was kinda what I expected, but not what I wanted to see. If that makes sense.
smoky vale
IC
dense elbow
It fine tho, we prob more balanced on the meters tho, so neato
inner zinc
so OF still is weaker than it was at begin of TWW since we still do reduced dmg beyond 5 targets instead of 8 but hey i guess its a step in the right direction
quiet geyser
It fine tho, we prob more balanced on the meters tho, so neato
slayer legit NEEDS an execute buff if its forced to take sudden death, but blizz clearly doesnt want to buff it
dense elbow
It is fine, they want it to be an opportunity cost ability - that is only good with stacked mods
frank dawn
Yeah forcing slayer to take SD and execute being total ball sacks is what frustrates me
clever belfry
@oblique trail i think they should reduce all rage gained by fury and buff reck so it does big fuck damage
glad coyote
i wanna know how 2 days later we get buffs but not when every other class gets theirs. Is it like the warrior dev was on PTO or something?
primal python
so OF still is weaker than it was at begin of TWW since we still do reduced dmg ...
at least there's no mass burst aoe in the raid so doesn't matter much there
glad coyote
like how do they just FORGET about us
smoky vale
Yeah forcing slayer to take SD and execute being total ball sacks is what frustr...
you realize it was a bug in the first place that we didnt take sd?
pulsar quest
Get rid of execute and let fury play colossus
smoky vale
eddie dont cook too much
flat river
fury warrior using execute
smoky vale
leave it to the chef
flat river
smoky vale
https://tenor.com/view/pillow-fight-paul-denino-ice-poseidon-whacking-pillows-hi...
real
inner zinc
at least there's no mass burst aoe in the raid so doesn't matter much there
still nerfed our MT dmg in M+ though 
pulsar quest
Demolish with 2 weapons > demolish with 1 weapon
quiet geyser
It is fine, they want it to be an opportunity cost ability - that is only good w...
wasting stacks of SD cuz execute legit just sucks without 3 stacks, is just bad though. like not even just bad performance, but bad design
smoky vale
prob true
primal python
sudden death needs the sudden doom treatment fr
pulsar quest
We just need a legendary axe…
edgy widget
i wanna know how 2 days later we get buffs but not when every other class gets t...
is this seriously what you're complaining about? lmao
pulsar quest
Shadowmourne v3
edgy widget
Warrior did get buffed 2 days ago, Prot got a bunch of changes
smoky vale
huh
pulsar quest
anda didn’t take his meds today
smoky vale
i believe so
edgy widget
Internally, Blizz works on an entirely diff schedule than we do, and anyone who has done the smallest amount of software dev can tell you that sometimes shit gets checked in at odd hours, misses deadlines, or just doesn't get pushed
pulsar quest
back to the ward for you
vagrant imp
fury execute need to be changed to Goros Might And have a second set of arm and weapons sprout from our back mirroring all attacks dmg for #Seconds and increase haste by #%
compact siren
real
quiet geyser
archy, any inside news why blizz hates fury wars pressing execute? :<
warm crag
yeah youre messaging urself
gio is gala theory
clever belfry
fury execute need to be changed to Goros Might And have a second set of arm and...
what the fuck is goros might
warm crag
Goros Might just dropped
slim coral
Yo guys just be hyped
smoky vale
gio is gala theory
wtf not you too spongus
clever belfry
gio is gala theory
names start with g, same person
slim coral
we are gonna pump
pulsar quest
I scared my wife on the couch when I saw wowhead warrior tuning pop up
broken hornet
Colossus as fury would fuck
glad coyote
I scared my wife on the couch when I saw wowhead warrior tuning pop up
sames
warm crag
broken hornet
Thane and slayer do not spark joy
smoky vale
Yo guys just be hyped
@slim coral hey man grats on the PC trial
pulsar quest
Battle shouting
smoky vale
I scared my wife on the couch when I saw wowhead warrior tuning pop up
what did she do
just jump
clever belfry
a name i made up
who the fuck is goros
covert blaze
I scared my wife on the couch when I saw wowhead warrior tuning pop up
no execute buff for fury is the real scary thing
inner zinc
I want Execute to be added to CSHB, Bloodcraze and SS. Thats how i want them to buff it 
pulsar quest
I agree but only because slayer is so focused on execute
If slayer wasn’t a thing I could give a fuck less about execute as fury
sly crane
we are so back
compact siren
goros = gio?
inner zinc
i mean its pretty weirdge that execute doesnt become a priority when we are within its range
clever belfry
goros = gio?
starts with g, checks out
pulsar quest
No gio = goros
compact siren
✅
quiet geyser
I agree but only because slayer is so focused on execute
Suppose to be, anyways
hope you like wasting SD procs 🙂
gleaming siren
Thank you for buffing Fury Archi good luck in RWF with Echo
clever belfry
archi in echo ???
warm crag
compact siren
Thank you for buffing Fury Archi good luck in RWF with Echo
covert blaze
Deine Antwort posten
clever belfry
21:10 nachmittag
lean heart
many are saying this
clever belfry
sobie = gio = gala
compact siren
all chefs
lean heart
trvth nvke
smoky vale
sobie = gio = gala
@oblique trail strike him DOWN
smoky vale
warm crag
warped bone
Some buffs. Happy days
dusty cove
Are we back?
warped bone
Also 
@warm crag
slim coral
Are we back?
compact siren
dusty cove
Big
slim coral
Get to testing
I am about to do a motherload rn
dense elbow
wasting stacks of SD cuz execute legit just sucks without 3 stacks, is just bad ...
While I agree, you know I am a huge advocate for buffing execute (and OF). This is the line the devs want for us, so it simply is just a bad timeline for our camp.
I am sure the buffs to the main abils will just do good dam, and in the end - if you dont care for design, but functionality, that is a perfect solve
plush maple
quiet geyser
i agree, i mean buffs are buffs.. they're great. The design of slayer is just fundamentally flawed at this point, kinda sad
digital plover
👀
forest ginkgo
So how are we feeling about buffs in PTR, St good now or still kinda mid/ass? (I heard it was ass currently)
quiet geyser
not a caster
or ret
dense elbow
So how are we feeling about buffs in PTR, St good now or still kinda mid/ass? (I...
About 5% better, some said - so that
clever belfry
Jesus, im surrounded by children
Person doesn't know random guy from media
must be a child
i think ive spotted the child
forest ginkgo
Hmmm, well i hope fury just stays decent enough on ST and good at aoe like it usually always is
midnight kite
Rework RA
Buff BT and RB to the same damage as previous BB and CB
what did they mean by this
edgy widget
i agree, i mean buffs are buffs.. they're great. The design of slayer is just fu...
I mean the idea that Execute is only worth using at 3 stacks isn't exactly true in the first place
vagrant imp
Person doesn't know random guy from media
must be a child
i think ive spotted th...
You didnt know a Main character From Mortal Kombat, big diff. Also, not using google to check before you talk is what makes you a child.
edgy widget
but yes, they should have buffed Fury Execute alongside everything else
quiet geyser
I mean the idea that Execute is only worth using at 3 stacks isn't exactly true ...
it kinda is for the most part, no? Especially after these main rotational buffs as well lol
edgy widget
You didnt know a Main character From Mortal Kombat, big diff. Also, not using go...
ok simmer down, it's really not that important
edgy widget
it kinda is for the most part, no? Especially after these main rotational buffs ...
na, Slayer regularly used it as a ST filler even without 3 stacks before
it's just best at 3 stacks for obvious reasons, and that's usually pretty easy to wait for
sudden tusk
Majima is the better Goro
dense elbow
I really would say baseline RB just wins out, no? There is no way exe is worth the global, when RB also buffs the buffed Rampage.
The diff increased.
A question, more than a comment. I am looking for copium for execute.
edgy widget
RB does win, for the same reason that it won before
but you won't always have infinite RB charges either
dense elbow
Ye, that is my issue. But that is fine, I must just accept that exe isnt high prio.
edgy widget
nobody is arguing that Execute isn't in a bad place lol
dense elbow
What confuses me, is simply, why do the devs make the problem worse. Not better.
It got to be on their radar by now.
edgy widget
and there's no reason it shouldn't have been buffed by at least 10% similar to the Arms/Prot version - it still wouldn't be particularly good, much less prioritized over everything else, but it would help keep up with other inflation
quiet geyser
Ye, that is my issue. But that is fine, I must just accept that exe isnt high pr...
and that comes back to a design issue, specifically for slayer
warped bone
Because whatever dev we have for war don't have a clue i guess 😄
dense elbow
I honestly think they tuned for efficeny, not design.
edgy widget
Because whatever dev we have for war don't have a clue i guess 😄
really uncalled for, considering they just made a bunch of good changes
frank dawn
I mean execute is dumb, but the spec plays well and the tuning is good
execute is just SOL
dense elbow
Think most people agree it is fine. We just got some that dared to hope for more than a pure output fix
quiet geyser
for them to specifically not buff fury's though, they must have some kind of design idea that we all just have no idea what it is lol. maybe they just cooking
warped bone
really uncalled for, considering they just made a bunch of good changes
I mean. If i make a good call 1 out of 10times. ( Yes blatantly inflated number ) I will not often get praised for making a good call that 10th time
midnight kite
Do prot and Arms share an execute spell ID?
frank dawn
to be fair execute is more specifically a problem for Slayer also. It's not impossible that some kind fo Slayer change could be cooking to address that
while Thane largely continues to ignore it
edgy widget
- The spec plays well
- the tuning is good, even if Execute is not
- Execute probably should have been buffed by a commensurate amount to keep up with other inflation
- Even if it were, it'd still be behind
- it will take some major talent reworks to really make Execute fall into place
More important than all of that though is that all of these changes are the product of iterative design - yall are looking at things from a really wide angle of "the entire spec" when individual tuning passes like this are very rarely meant to accomplish that
instead, this tuning pass was clearly meant to readjust where Fury landed after the RA change, and they accomplished that in good fashion
edgy widget
I mean. If i make a good call 1 out of 10times. ( Yes blatantly inflated number ...
yes a blatantly inflated number, they've made more good changes than bad over the course of this expansion (and last tbh)
quiet geyser
unrelated, but very surprised onslaught was left out too
fickle bluff
whats onslaught 
edgy widget
to be fair execute is more specifically a problem for Slayer also. It's not impo...
it is, which is why they should probably address it inside of Slayer
edgy widget
unrelated, but very surprised onslaught was left out too
Yeah, but again - that's how iterative design works
- these changes are "fixing" the tuning issues introduced by reworking Reckless Abandon and Titan's Torment
lean heart
i think the changes are neat
edgy widget
So they're solving one problem at a time, but yall are expecting every change to fix the entire spec all at once
dense elbow
Hm, still nothing to make up for the lost ava buff for the 2nd BS and OF tho.
edgy widget
Hm, still nothing to make up for the lost ava buff for the 2nd BS and OF tho.
Berserker's Torment makes up for that
quiet geyser
it is, which is why they should probably address it inside of Slayer
I'de like to see the 3 stacks thing removed tbh. Just make it 1 stack, you proc your slayer strike, execute does more dmg. Doesn't have to be the same amount of the 3 stack design, but it would make EVERY sudden death proc feel awesome
edgy widget
Yeah maybe
Though I think the simplest solution would be to change Slayer's Malice from +RB damage to +Execute damage
because changing from 3 -> 1 makes Sudden Death better, but still leaves regular Execute in a bad spot
dense elbow
Am I blind, how does reck on a 1.5m CD fix the lost 20% from the gone 45 sec window?
Prob just doomium too hard
quiet geyser
because changing from 3 -> 1 makes Sudden Death better, but still leaves regular...
with the amount of procs of SD we get, is that really an issue though? lol
frank dawn
the 3 stack thing works really as the "bad luck" protection for Sudden Death. But it would be cool if like Show No Mercy could buff all SD procs instead of being tied to mark consumption or something
edgy widget
Am I blind, how does reck on a 1.5m CD fix the lost 20% from the gone 45 sec win...
you lost Titan's Torment, but you gained Berserker's Torment - specific situations aside, that's a largely 1:1 change
yeah it's worse for insta-burst, but it's a throughput gain, so it's not a total loss
warped bone
Return to me the 99 stack execute so i can play the Super S 3 Song again
dense elbow
Yeah, what worries me is not the in avatar burst every 1.5, it is the 45 sec one that got slapped
warped bone
Haha, ye i don't really want it back either
midnight kite
Look it was really cool on helya and pretty cool on argus
edgy widget
with the amount of procs of SD we get, is that really an issue though? lol
I mean, yes, especially if the intent was to make Execute good - Exe's CD is still a lot lower than SD's proc rate, and SD ignores things like the value of Massacre
edgy widget
Yeah, what worries me is not the in avatar burst every 1.5, it is the 45 sec one...
and the 45s one also got a 15% buff to compensate
quiet geyser
i mean they could do the 3-1 change, and leave it at a decent chunk of dmg increase with 1, and also just buff base execute lol
edgy widget
No - it's not the same situation, because you traded one talent for another
- you lost a little bit of extra burst every 45s, but you gained more damage every 1.5m
you shouldn't expect things to be exactly the same, because you're using an entirely different talent
it's not going to be the same
dense elbow
Fair I guess, if it maths out as you say
edgy widget
but that doesn't mean it's a total loss either
idk where the math lands yet, I'm just saying, you lost Titan's Torment but gained Berserker's Torment instead, which is not the same thing as just "losing Titan's Torment"
forest ginkgo
Looking at season 1 i feel like we can trust warrior dev to make good changes, or atleast theres a high chance they will. Im just excited for all the bosses and loot, i mean we get a ring with HIGH MASTERY. And a cloak with good stats too, idk its looking to be gooooood.
midnight kite
You can also actually slot in uproar now so thats kinda makes up the 45 sec AoE atleast
dense elbow
I am talking about the lost window overlap, more than the loss of TT, but I get what you are trying to put forward
edgy widget
Yeah, lots of moving parts
frank dawn
gaining uproar is prob overlooked, it's def not bad
dense elbow
I am happy with the overlap gone, really. So I am prob just doomin' over things that I wont be bothered about in a few weeks into the patch.
edgy widget
I am talking about the lost window overlap, more than the loss of TT, but I get ...
Yes, that specific situation is weaker, there's no denying that, but you're not going to have exact balance on every single potential situation either
hyperfixating on one thing like that is just kind of foolish tbh
midnight kite
for ST alls that matters is do you do more over the fight
edgy widget
things change, it's the nature of this game
edgy widget
well OF now hits 15% harder, so be happy
dense elbow
If Ramp wasnt buffed too, I would be more happy. I just dislike when Ramp hits for bigger numbers than a 45 sec CD on the go.
dusty cove
So should we be worried that they will slow fury down more? With them saying in that prot blue post that they dont want very high APM
frank dawn
I mean OF def still hits harder than ramp
not sure I follow
not to mention not being reduced on cleave damage like Ramp is
dense elbow
not sure I follow
OF got 340k damage, Rampage got 300k, rampage got SS in effect.
Sure, OF got more dam value on the press, if barely. But I am talking the numbers on screen.
quiet geyser
If Ramp wasnt buffed too, I would be more happy. I just dislike when Ramp hits f...
i feel most warriors like ramp hitting like a truck. Your only spender really should
dense elbow
Yeah, I for sure get that
forest ginkgo
Rampage hits 4 times though
dense elbow
OF is 45 sec tho, ramp is every 4 sec
forest ginkgo
So even if one number isnt high, it accumulates no?
quiet geyser
OF is 45 sec tho, ramp is every 4 sec
thats more OF needing to hit harder then, not rampage needing less
dense elbow
thats more OF needing to hit harder then, not rampage needing less
I never said ramp should hit less
edgy widget
TBF OF does hit harder than Rampage, at least before you factor Slaughtering Strikes
and it's also much stronger in AoE
quiet geyser
I never said ramp should hit less
u legit just said you'd be happier without the added rampage buff lol
forest ginkgo
In aoe it outclasses rampage as it is supposed to do, atleast burst wise
dense elbow
u legit just said you'd be happier without the added rampage buff lol
Sure, you can twist it that way, if you want.
eager briar
Praying for execute to be buffed next 
edgy widget
u legit just said you'd be happier without the added rampage buff lol
cause "oF sHoULd be BufFed bY 50%!" 
dense elbow
Not sure if that would be too much, havent done good testing of it
forest ginkgo
I mean probably will be, execute is pretty central for slayer so good to be stronk
dense elbow
The quote is 51%, but meh
forest ginkgo
We'll see what they update though
edgy widget
If you wanna fix Execute, the first step is nerfing Slaughtering Strikes
forest ginkgo
Its still PTR so we have lotsa time
midnight kite
Buff Odyns fury by 133% again what could go wrong
boreal cairn
they didnt even wanna give fury 10% on execute last time arms got it, we had to be nefed to 7%
forest ginkgo
Buff fury by 100% overall damage tyvm
dense elbow
It could become oppresive in the talent build, but nothing would go "wrong"
boreal cairn
dont seem like they even want us using that button
fickle bluff
cause "oF sHoULd be BufFed bY 50%!" <:peepoDumb:586436829977378816>
youve got it all wrong it needs AT LEAST 51%
dense elbow
There ya go, Spongie gets it
frank dawn
If you wanna fix Execute, the first step is nerfing Slaughtering Strikes
Slaughtering and Hack and Slash feel non-negotiable looking at trying to find ways to make execute meld better
edgy widget
they didnt even wanna give fury 10% on execute last time arms got it, we had to ...
only the OH, the overall was buffed
midnight kite
Idk I do think its a bit odd they force slayer to take Sudden Death but still are fine with us not liking to spend SD procs outside of slayer stacks
forest ginkgo
I mean u do use execute for refreshing bladestorm cd when u get the marked for death stacks. So if it wasnt very strong, instead of filling with it whenever RB or BB isnt up, we'd probably just use it for lowering BS cd
dense elbow
Critical Thinking should also affect Execute, if they want it to feel better in an easy way.
frank dawn
Slaughtering just stupid good all the time, and Hack and Slash is somewhat comparable on single target - but it's also being propped up by slaughtering
forest ginkgo
Or marked for execution, whatever its called
edgy widget
Slaughtering and Hack and Slash feel non-negotiable looking at trying to find wa...
I'm on the fence with Hack & Slash; previously I did argue that it might be a good candidate to nerf/remove and make RB more static (thereby opening up more room in the rotation for other buttons)
warped bone
End of the day. I'm just happy we got some buffs
forest ginkgo
True and real
edgy widget
but that is a bigger change that would necessitate a lot more updates to make it work smoothly - Slaughtering is the much easier to fix offender
forest ginkgo
I just want it in the spot we usually are, decent ST and really good Aoe
edgy widget
just nerf Slaughtering to +10% per stack, buff Rampage by ~5% baseline, and spamming RB becomes a lot less important
or hell nerf it down to +5% even; it really is kind of a meaningless "inflation" talent
even if it didn't exist at all, it's not like you wouldn't hit RB for 80% of the fight
frank dawn
but that is a bigger change that would necessitate a lot more updates to make it...
I Keep going back and forth on wanting slaughtering to be tied to Execute and nerfed. but Slayer/Execute needs a talent point or two to drop
and yeh Slaughtering def the best thing to look at
edgy widget
Only problem with tying Slaughtering to Execute as well as RB is it could cause you to prio Execute + RB and cut out BT instead
which also feels bad
winter shoal
Can you guys imagine if they actually did something with OS/tenderize
frank dawn
mmm, indeed
winter shoal
That would go crazy
edgy widget
Onslaught is on the to do list, but these changes were aimed at fixing the issues caused by reworking Reckless Abandon and Titan's Torment
Onslaught is a whole different issue that can be addressed on its own
dense elbow
OS in this world of a myriad of fillers... boii, is it a hard sell as is. Would have to do a lot of dam value
winter shoal
What if tenderize gave you a guaranteed UF proc or something
edgy widget
the issue is buffing it too much takes you right back to Dragonflight - always Ons, never OF
quiet geyser
but that is a bigger change that would necessitate a lot more updates to make it...
this wouldnt actually be that much of an issue, atleast in ST if SD was worth pressing asap every proc, AND onslaught was actually worth taking. The less RB resets would actually prob be welcomed
edgy widget
And frankly we probably would be using Onslaught right now if not for the fact that they made Bloodthirst better (than it was in Dragonflight), which led to picking up a lot more T2 talents
So it really is a bigger issue than just "Ons damage low"
because right now, we're not spending 10 points in the 3rd tier -we took those points out to get more BT/RB talents
So ok, you want to take Ons & Tenderize... so what are you going to give up?
sudden tusk
moving some power in ST from BT/RB might do some good to ONS
since the more they buff those abilities the less likey we are to use it
edgy widget
probably, but dropping +15% RB damage and +10% RB reset is a huge loss
dense elbow
Replacing RB with RB+ isnt exactly fun tho
charred panther
edgy widget
dropping Bloodcraze or Bloodsurge doesn't make sense, especially with the new bleed focus of RA
dusty cove
So are we positive about the RA change?
sudden tusk
RA slayer is for sure the way to go
spare oriole
Onslaught is such a horrible ability. I personally don't think it's ever felt good to play with in any of it's many forms. Just delete it and maybe fix our other problems imo.
sudden tusk
AM just doesnt benefit it much and desync feels bad
edgy widget
dropping Frenzy, Hack & Slash, or Slaughtering Strikes is an automatic no-go
dense elbow
I just hope AM will be viable, as AM slayer is a ton of fun
edgy widget
so what do you wanna give up to get Ons?
winter shoal
dropping Bloodcraze or Bloodsurge doesn't make sense, especially with the new bl...
do you mean bloodborne instead of bloodsurge
bloodsurge is arms innit
edgy widget
do you mean bloodborne instead of bloodsurge
obviously
sudden tusk
would say bloodcraze but after the buffs no way to drop that either
wary fjord
dropping Frenzy, Hack & Slash, or Slaughtering Strikes is an automatic no-go
make frenzy baseline, reee
edgy widget
So yeah, it's a bigger problem than just numbers - gotta look at the whole board
wary fjord
or get rid of it
quiet geyser
So ok, you want to take Ons & Tenderize... so what are you going to give up?
like i said before, if onslaught and execute did better dmg, you might not need hack and slash? Feel like you'de be full globals np using SD and onslaught on CD
edgy widget
issue with Fury right now is that its talents are really universal
winter shoal
Real
edgy widget
like i said before, if onslaught and execute did better dmg, you might not need ...
Ons and SD (even as Slayer) don't fill nearly enough globals to make up for the loss of Hack & Slash
winter shoal
Getting punished for target swapping for 1 global is cringe
dense elbow
Btw, as Archi is lingering. You pushed the idea of making UF a 12% but 2 sec duration proc, for that RA feel good game?
If it wasnt for the low frequency, I actually find it a ton of fun getting the proc
midnight kite
Does the new RA make DoI or UF a pick now?
edgy widget
but do we just wanna lose the talent entirely? that makes the tree smaller
quiet geyser
well that middle section is quite bloated already
feel like we want everything lol
except SMF :<
dense elbow
Does the new RA make DoI or UF a pick now?
UF, nah, it never procs. But it is a ton of fun when it does. Pray for frequency buff and duration decrease
edgy widget
Like I said, it's a complicated problem that's not just caused by tuning, but also by the talent tree - it's something they're definitely going to address, but it will probably require some extensive talent reworks that I don't think will be feasible until 12.0
midnight kite
yeah I would be suprised if UF gets picked after its (imo harsh) nerfs
sinful spoke
I am about to do a motherload rn
wheres the 🍵
midnight kite
but if DoI was worth picking then thats 1 less talent point we have to portentially budget
quiet geyser
but do we just wanna lose the talent entirely? that makes the tree smaller
get rid of frenzy, and give enrage the haste it use to get 🙂
dense elbow
As UF actually feels impactful when it procs, it is a shame we wont play it.
Impact is fun
edgy widget
Fury just has too many universal talents that affect 80% of your rotation, to leave any room to take talents that only affect 10-20% of it
until that changes, it's gonna be hard to make things like Ons fit unless you just over buff the crap out of them
frank dawn
Frenzy, Slaughtering, Bloodcraze, Bloodborne, and I'm gonna argue again that Imp WW go baseline. But if those 5 talent points could actually be swapped around - we'd have ok choices.
edgy widget
replace frenzy with rend in the tree
get out
dense elbow
Fury new bleed spec, the flat DPS dream
frank dawn
if they put Deft Experience in the middle of the tree maybe that opens a world where you can opt out of Bloodborne. I haven't dug into it much, but I'm pretty sure not taking Deft is as much a no go as not taking Slaughtering
dense elbow
Give us blood and thunder!
quiet geyser
Frenzy, Slaughtering, Bloodcraze, Bloodborne, and I'm gonna argue again that Imp...
imp ww baseline, move meatcleaver up to imp ww spot, and put fan of long swords in meatcleaver spot. would cream myself.
midnight kite
but yeah they could just make some talents baseline to free up space but it would thoeretically mean they cut power elsewhere
frank dawn
LOOOOOOONGSWORDS
winter shoal
I do kind of like the idea of a bleed-based build being an option for both specs
I don't know if there's enough talent synergy to realy enable that though
Just kinda bloodborne/twords
And the RA bleed now
And OF
frank dawn
I have no problem with the Bleed talents in the fury tree, but having to go get Deft Experience on the left while WW talents are essentially never skippable on the right
dense elbow
Gushing wounds
midnight kite
yeah the level 11 fury warrior twink craze reminded me how awkward that is
fickle bluff
highly doubt fan of longswords will ever exist as a permanent choice for fury
wrecking ball though
primal python
first thing that needs to go is SMF like cmon already
frank dawn
SMF is dumb, but it also doesn't really matter
you can fix the problems and continue to ignore SMF
if they just add another good talent over there, that's not fixing anything lol
midnight kite
I do think its funny, I had a conspiracy theory that we never get good cantrip 1h weapons because they dont want SMF to potentially beat TG
They add a special 1h in undermine only to add TWO special 2h
quiet geyser
highly doubt fan of longswords will ever exist as a permanent choice for fury
a man can dream
edgy widget
I have no problem with the Bleed talents in the fury tree, but having to go get ...
tbf Deft has been dropping in value, most builds only taking 1 point now
edgy widget
SMF is dumb, but it also doesn't really matter
and yes, this - it's dumb but hardly problematic
edgy widget
wrecking ball though
Wrecking Ball is kinda the same thing as Sudden Death though, feels unlikely that we'd have both
fickle bluff
more likely than longswords 
lean nacelle
one day onslaught will be good again
primal python
bring back 
frank dawn
meh, I'm with others at the moment. Onslaught does not excite me at all even if it was buffed to be good numbers wise
that one just needs to be redesigned imo
lean nacelle
they could redesign the capstone for it
olive violet
Bring back Collosus Smash and Heroic Strike in Fury
steady wharf
my cooked take is that they should make cb/bb after ramp baseline and do something different with RA. gameplay feels too stale to go back to spamming rb/bt between cds
summer quail
meh, I'm with others at the moment. Onslaught does not excite me at all even if ...
onslaught felt very good with anger management in dragonflight for m+. having something that enrages at the start of each pack
frank dawn
that's fair, the guaranteed enrage was nice
slim coral
kk
slim coral
inv, we can do some dungeon dueling
are you alliance
young swan
horde
slim coral
imma just dm you
young swan
kk
crimson bay
what if they just seperated RA and AM from being a choice node and we could take them both?
dense elbow
Anyone mind testing OF for me, cause I am getting it at like 6-7% overall, and that is good. But it was 3-4% before
Mabye I just need 
edgy widget
what if they just seperated RA and AM from being a choice node and we could take...
too much cumulative power, since AM directly scales the value of RA, it'd be very hard for other talents to ever compete against that combination
frail trout
is this an error with the post or....
I only just now saw this post hours after it initially went up
sudden tusk
honestly i bet these changes were ment to push them with a full tuning patch instead of individually like this
i hope togod
sudden tusk
fickle bluff
reupload the video but reversed
junior gale
Time to delete the video Madox
lime bloom
so are we getting buffs
eternal canopy
thats probably the case tbh
strange sedge
looks at gun tonight’s the night old friend
sudden tusk
Time to delete the video Madox
would i be funny if i made another one
eternal canopy
junior gale
would i be funny if i made another one
new one has to be full nuclear doom
devout zodiac
So did fury get buffed or?
sudden tusk
im not to that stage of greif yet
frail trout
was warrior that bad on ptr that both specs had to have their abilities buffed by that much? lmfao
it's been ONE tier haha
unreal
nimble ermine
@young swan where stream men
slim coral
was warrior that bad on ptr that both specs had to have their abilities buffed b...
Yes
sudden tusk
buffs reverted
nimble ermine
buffs reverted
nimble ermine
only figured this out now?
sudden tusk
its probably just waiting to lump tuning together
fickle bluff
Funniest shit ever if blizzard add back buffs and madox makes a 3rd video in a row
sudden tusk
and make a big post then individual pushing
dense elbow
What is going on on the PTR, OF is all over the place
dense elbow
nimble ermine
basically this if they re add the buffs
dense elbow
1 cast, 1 target
sudden tusk
ill be real even if they re add the changes
were barely above its so over
based on the numbers
tidal kindle
sudden tusk
these fights are extremely melee unfriendly
nimble ermine
it's ok now that they have another game on maintenance mode, surely they can focus on wow and maybe tuning
dense elbow
Ngl, if OF keeps doing 2mill a cast ST, I am happy
coarse coyote
frail trout
these fights are extremely melee unfriendly
perfect time for me to go back to ranged, I was already thinking about it without knowing the state of ptr
modest condor
when are they gonna remove execute from fury?
dense elbow
12.0
frank dawn
you hush
dusky crypt
when are they gonna remove execute from fury?
didnt they already do this?
compact knot
its called playing mountain thane
runic cypress
when are they gonna remove execute from fury?
Midnight right before housing patch
robust widget
but may as well just unbind it
replacing with slam soon
iron plaza
when are they gonna remove execute from fury?
You are the Warrior dev, you know the answer
modest condor
no that's only in dan's server
iron plaza
It's ok Sil, you will be the one and only Warrior Dev for me
nimble ermine
it's ok warrior rework coming soon
frail trout
dense elbow
Guys, what is going on the PTR - numbers fluxate, I am confused
Send help
Rather, I go
HF with the buffs that isnt is if is isnt
thick fossil
No, it's totally unacceptable that they fucking knee jerk nerfed us all god damn tier. Now they pull something like this is stupid and insulting.
young swan
i think it was prob just a mistake that they got hotfixed in at all
dont think its a true "reversion"
slim coral
yeah they meant to post warrior "rework" instead they accidentally posted the rough draft buffs
frail trout
nimble ermine
can't wait for my real warrior rework (real)
edgy widget
thats honestly kinda sad xd
how is that sad? it's a good thing lol
basically gave us old RA for free, with new RA on top
slim coral
are these 2026 roadmap real?
edgy widget
No, it's totally unacceptable that they fucking knee jerk nerfed us all god damn...
simmer down lol, it's a PTR for a reason
no, it's very clearly fake and even the youtuber who made it said it was meant to be a fan made fantasy
slim coral
looked kinda real ngl
modest condor
how did that look even remotely real
fickle bluff
Yes it's real they for sure know thr exact name of the minor side content dropping in over a year
slim coral
how did that look even remotely real
it looked like the ones they always do lol
modest condor
yeah and that's where the realness ends
if you actually look at it for 5 seconds it's so obviously fake
fickle bluff
The only real thing about it is brewfest being on there twice because brewfest is the goat
edgy widget
looked kinda real ngl
maybe at first glance, but once you start actually looking at it, the holes show pretty quickly
- unofficial fan art
- very generic content names (Blizz would never name something "the necropolis, when they could name it "Necropolis of the Last Nightmare" or some shit)
- several obvious misspellings (hertiage, harranir, etc)
- an impossibly tight time table (11.2 by summer? lol)
sonic wing
who made it?
edgy widget
some minor youtuber
slim coral
if you actually look at it for 5 seconds it's so obviously fake
guess idk what to look for in fakeness
modest condor
also having such a detailed roadmap that far in advance
modest condor
usually it would just be 1 or 2 patches and after that it gets vague
sonic wing
thanks
iron plaza
it looked like the ones they always do lol
They've never done a roadmap so big that covered so many of the future patches as far as I know
slim coral
maybe at first glance, but once you start actually looking at it, the holes show...
that's fair lol
but 11.2 is in summer isnt it?
frail trout
if there's a class on the roadmap its automatically fake to me
slim coral
I thought it was
frail trout
or in any leak
frail trout
it had a race I guess, but same principle
the naga shit lol
tfw ogre isn't a playable race yet
thick fossil
It's just fucking stupid
dapper goblet
lets get a perma mute on baze
smoky vale
@slim coral hey man grats on the PC trial
brittle crow
basically gave us old RA for free, with new RA on top
it's sad that our base kit was so terrible that we needed so much numbers
xd
iron plaza
@edgy widget Do you know why are they so allergic in buffing Execute for Fury? like the button is already behind damage and synergy compared to RB, and if the buffs that got reverted are going to drop with the new build Execute is gonna be even more behind RB
It just barely makes any sense
Like we literally have a hero talent that is like 50% around Execute and 50% around BS and when they wanna buff stuff they act like Execute is not available to Fury
edgy widget
it's sad that our base kit was so terrible that we needed so much numbers
I mean I wouldn't say the base kit was terrible, they just changed a talent that benefit Fury all the time into one that only benefit it ~14% of the time
thick fossil
nerf shaman
nerf it or buff others to be on the same level.
frail trout
That does explain the fury stuff, but what the hell happened to Arms lol they got a lot of buffs too in that post
Just curious how it fell so far behind
edgy widget
<@61282228017041408> Do you know why are they so allergic in buffing Execute for...
I've already spoken on this several times - these changes were obviously meant to address the tuning issues caused by reworking Reckless Abandon and Titan's Torment, not a comprehensive solution to any and all Fury tuning
in other words, they're making deliberate targeted changes to address specific issues, while yall are looking at the whole spec all at once
slim coral
do they want us to just ignore ramp duing the reck window?
edgy widget
Doesn't mean Execute, Onslaught, or anything else isn't still a problem, just not a problem this specific tuning was meant to solve
slim coral
kinda feels like it
tidal kindle
in other words, they're making deliberate targeted changes to address specific issues,
Prefer this over blanket buffs/changes tbh
edgy widget
Strictly speaking, without this tuning, Execute actually is stronger (from a relaltive standpoint) than it is on live currently
tidal kindle
Hate getting riot buffed/nerfed
Nerf the skill
Nerf the item
Nerf the runes/talents
Nerf the base class again for good measure
slim coral
I've always viewed bb as fury's execute
tidal kindle
slim coral
or bt
edgy widget
cause with current RA on live, most of the rotation is filled with Bloodbath and Crushing Blow, which Execute has a harder time competing against
but with the new RA, you're mostly using Bloodthirst and Raging Blow, which Execute competes much better against
This tuning obviously reverted that, but that doesn't really make Execute any weaker than it currently is on live, rather it (more or less) restores its position
slim coral
Hate getting riot buffed/nerfed
> Nerf the skill
> Nerf the item
> Nerf the rune...
meanwhile shaman
tidal kindle
I'm talking ezreal/sheen
slim coral
I'm talking ezreal/sheen
kog is another example
dapper goblet
devout zodiac
How is fury looking on PTR? I've been AFK from WoW for awhile
sinful spoke
sinful spoke
How is fury looking on PTR? I've been AFK from WoW for awhile
bad
they buffed us but reverted it?
slim coral
How is fury looking on PTR? I've been AFK from WoW for awhile
currently tuning wise very bad
if the buffs go through it coudl be good
frail trout
I was mainly thinking of playing something else next tier for completely different reasons, I had no idea how warrior was doing on PTR until I popped in here an hour ago
lil bored of warrior right now
pulsar quest
Uh okay lmao
frail trout
want to play something else to keep it fresh
dapper goblet
pick any ranged spec atm
slim coral
play arcane
frail trout
Any? I'm not sure if I should do that but...lol
I saw flameshaper dev might be cooking?
slim coral
You're gonna wanna play ranged for next tier
frail trout
I will play dev any time its not dogshit
slim coral
it's so anti melee lol
frail trout
I love it
pulsar quest
Yeah dude
There’s a lot of melee downtime so far
Strats will change but
These fights are not melee friendly so far
frail trout
I mained dev evoker in dragonflight but stopped when it got cannibalized by aug
I enjoy aug reasonably enough in keys, hate it for raid
slim coral
how do u play arcane lol
arcane mage 
sinful spoke
I mained dev evoker in dragonflight but stopped when it got cannibalized by aug
well aug is dead now
go back
lol
iron plaza
I've always viewed bb as fury's execute
If they don't want to bother much with fixing the problem with Execute idk why they just don't remove it from Fury and add passive execute elements to us, like VC
frail trout
well aug is dead now
It's losing what mandated that you bring it to groups but in return its actually becoming better at buffing the 2 other dps now
so if this patch has some crazy lopsided dps on top....like enhancement shaman xd
compact knot
how do u play arcane lol
its lowkey not that hard
it feels easier than fire
i also didnt read what any of fires abilities do though when i played it on court prog
(i switched arcane and did like 2.3m dps)
summer quail
well aug is dead now
in m+ it is very much alive i'm afraid
thick fossil
well aug is dead now
I don't think Aug will be dead
compact knot
in some super metaphorical kinda way like you meant playing arcane is like making a show
im cooked
frail trout
aug will not be dead in keys at all, I just hope its mostly irrelevant in raid
frail trout
or so-so
compact knot
i am enraged
smoky vale
idk what that means sir
compact knot
so then the elemental switched to me and meleed me for 600k
smoky vale
i think the part where he got overkilled by 5 times his hp bar
compact knot
nah i just didnt expect to die that pull
smoky vale
what is cata hp
compact knot
so i didnt call for a repair
compact knot
what is cata hp
like 140k
we keep getting 10 minute pulls then wiping
we have oneshot this boss before
smoky vale
sounds like aids
red berry
if the buffs go through it coudl be good
yeah the revert was crazy. is there new stuff n fury performance? from what i saw they were... below middle of the pack in raid? idk if there was anything new
sullen dove
shitters playin the specs prolly
lucky i didnt log on raid testing or we'd be hit with 15 aura nerfs
dapper goblet
the most recent version of arms that is actually fun to play
acoustic seal
rocky locust
Any tips for "Zekvir ??"?
Talents?
Brann loadout?
thick fossil
drastically overgear it, kill add, kill boss, kick the heal
fervent yoke
They want us to drop odyns fury on the PTR - the spec feels bare bones atm and idk how I feel about it we really didn’t need to lose another button to press..
rocky locust
drastically overgear it, kill add, kill boss, kick the heal
Can I kick the Spittle too? Or only kick the heal?
thick fossil
Pretty sure you can only get one of the two
dense elbow
They want us to drop odyns fury on the PTR - the spec feels bare bones atm and i...
You will get used to it. Tho, if tuning stays around what is. That said OF is doing a lot more than it should per tooltip, it is around 6-7% of your overall dam. 2-3% st
Doubt it will stay like this for long tho 
Still, if, then that is pretty good for a button with no setup 
fervent yoke
Yeah I think I’m just not used to not pressing it atm
dense elbow
Hey, let's 🙏 it keeps getting nudge buffs, if it gets the fix. If it goes back to the 4% overall, that is "fine", and hopefully not a DPS 10% minus as in DF
OF doing 2m instead for 1m is fun tho
summer quail
Hey, let's 🙏 it keeps getting nudge buffs, if it gets the fix. If it goes back ...
i mean buff has already gotten reverted xD
all these buffs will hopefully be back soon
dense elbow
OF clearly was just bugged if so tho, so prob why it was pulled
A bit more than the stated 15%
charred scroll
so my fellow braincell sharing warrior players. what we dooming about today
summer quail
the reverted buffs ofcourse
dense elbow
I was dooming, then PTR said smile. I smile. Now I don't go back to PTR till OF buffs with bug id back
lifehack on how to stay positive
rocky locust
gleaming siren
I feel lied to, insulted, and absolutely betrayed. When they ran out of Fury nerfs they buff us on the PTR to be able to nerf us right after. 47 nerfs in a row, seriously blozzard?!!1
@clever belfry balls
summer crater
So what was the point of the buffs? Were they just accidental or did they realize directly they thought it was too much?
slim coral
A dev probably didn't mean to push them today and they were most likely inteded to ship with a patch
primal plover
hopefully thats the case
cause if its a full revert my involuntary salty water dispersion from my eye holes continues again
slim coral
as much as I'd like to jokingly doom with you they are genuinely pretty good with tuning even though there are outliers like shaman currently
south kayak
I find it funny they buffed OF by an amount lower than RB/BT and rampage
This shit needs a 115%
They missed a decimal
young swan
south kayak
They did but I don’t think that’s anything to be worried about
They probably meant to push it for the actual patch notes but didn’t
Then decided to revert after randomly pushing it on ptr
Still, 15% OF is not even close to talent into that
115% is what they meant
south kayak
Relax
Tuning is coming, I don’t know why they reverted but this is nothing to doom about
wraith wharf
maybe they relized they didn't buff execute at all and went back to the drawing board for the buffs?
outer umbra
my guild is 6/8 this is why we haven’t progged more we have 3 warriors and they nerfed fury hard
south kayak
Or they missed a 1 on OF
south kayak
Real
Now it’s on farm so fury isn’t as good
But it was great on actual prog at the start for a while
young swan
i mean if ur still progging the bosses right now fury will still be fine and absolutely 100% not the reason u cant kill bosses
south kayak
Yeah that was a weird statement lol
No spec is going to be the reason you can’t kill a boss
outer umbra
My gm says he banked on us 3 warriors carrying us to the finish lines but the nerfs were too heavy handed gg
young swan
south kayak
young swan
gm is a moron gg
young swan
lowrolled int stat
south kayak
half tide
gm is a moron gg
🧌
half tide
shut up shekels
south kayak
got reverted anyways
I mean I’m not either but I know that if we don’t pick Of, they are going to keep buffing it
graceful ruin
add a couple more zeros to those numbers and we're cookin
south kayak
Based on what they said about it when they changed TT
graceful ruin
mortal strike buffed by 200% yes please
outer umbra
add a couple more zeros to those numbers and we're cookin
That’s what im saying man
nerfs were too much
graceful ruin
maybe with the 200% buff with a crit and all modifiers we can do 1/10 of a high roll shaman LB
south kayak
I don’t think they’re using that on ptr
The nerfed dogs
And loss of tier set
Is significant
graceful ruin
bro it feels like every other class is like "yes this tier set gives me 5%" and then shaman goes "my 2 set is 40% and my 4 set is 270%"
south kayak
24 to be exact
graceful ruin
idk about the new one but I remember when the old set was like actually 30%
clever iron
we still have hope!!!!
graceful ruin
is this from tier set?
south kayak
is this from tier set?
I guess it is but the ability does pretty good damage regardless
elfin lodge
how we feeling for new patch
overall sentiment for the class and spec, not just tierset
red berry
A bit more than the stated 15% <:keks:936231610850897992>
how much was it doing lmao
because this is mine on the pts - granted, after the revert
vivid moat
odyn's fury? more like toddler's tantrum
bleak bluff
sorry if yoy guys already answered, but why did blizzard revert warrior buffs?! was a mistake in the first place?
slim coral
we assume they accidentally pushed it to live a week early and meant to send it with the next patch
pearl sequoia
hardy bluff
i mean they wont post notes just to troll
summer crater
i mean they wont post notes just to troll
flat river
gleaming siren
You cooked with this one lowkey but there should be one field for each of the 48 nerfs Fury has gotten in TWW
warped bone
kekw. They reverted the changes? Why xD
sly crane
They hit buff instead of nerf by accident
warped bone
fast mural
paper prism
Do you guys use Thunderlord's in your ring? The zap proc
simple scroll
Thanks to you guys chatting about Zekvir I also managed Let me solo him. Thanks for the nudge 🙂
remote veldt
They already reverted the buff on ptr ?
hardy bluff
yes
remote veldt
hardy bluff
just posted too early probably
remote veldt
Too early to buff but never late to nerf the classe
nimble kraken
Heres 20% across the board, uh actually less than 12 hrs later. Hell no
flat river
hey wanted us to have hope
next week is a 20% nerf
they wrote buff by accident
thats why they reverted
golden kiln
Actually, I think fury does a bit too much dam, they're too easily beating the tanks
can't be having that
warm crag
gala is gio theory
remote veldt
I'm having to play another class to push rio on the war and getting accept but this is okay hunt is reworked and marksman can BL without pet now everything is on control
nimble kraken
Some intern felt bad for warrior and tried for a minute. The hounds caught him immediately, he will be remembered. -sarcasm
remote veldt
They pressed the human resources button for the social harrasment on the buff
flat river
Some intern felt bad for warrior and tried for a minute. The hounds caught him i...
same vibe
clever belfry
gala is gio theory
theory? it's a fact, buddy
warm crag
theory? it's a fact, buddy
as a med student you should know that every fact starts as a theory
sour frigate
not always
remote bobcat
someone tell me why did blizzard effectively remove one of our talent points by forcing us into sudden death in slayer builds while also simultaneously making it so that our opener of Reck+Avatar+Roar doesn't enrage us anymore
is this just melee hatred?
sour frigate
ur opener reck charge rp enrages u no?
remote bobcat
Rampge wasnt necessary with titans torment though, it simmed equally
so a shitton of warrs, me included, got used to skipping the rampage
clever belfry
as a med student you should know that every fact starts as a theory
med?
gleaming siren
Yea
clever belfry
Anda said that
Always 10 steps ahead
gleaming siren
Computer medicine
clever belfry
yeah i just fixed me moms receiver true
(ard no longer broadcasts in sd, she has been watching it in sd???)
i showed her diff between hd and sd and she says she cant tell a diff
i called her r word
warm crag
human eye only sees 7 fps tbf
sour frigate
That's like saying you don't see the diff between 60 and 120 fps
depends on game mostly
in wow i can see diff between 60 and 100 smh
clever belfry
that's so besides the point my king
gleaming siren
@warm crag new D video just dropped
warm crag
big D
gleaming siren
The biggest
clever belfry
Madox imposter???
smoky vale
idle ember
bro ive had this name since wow autogenerated it for me in WOTLK
clever belfry
(its a joke me king)
smoky vale
(its a joke me king)
meow
clever belfry
what's ur favourite greeting
devout totem
Is thane still the best in higher keys
ye it is
spare steppe
did they give an explanation on why the dps warrior buffs were reverterd?
devout totem
did they give an explanation on why the dps warrior buffs were reverterd?
no official answer tho
fading sky
Changed their minds warrior is not shaman
south kayak
lmao
gleaming siren
Enhance doesn't do enough damage per screenshot yet maybe should buff them again
warm crag
pulsar quest
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just leave it in for a week in ptr to test it lmao
That makes no sense
warm crag
bad practice
pulsar quest
Like what could hurt from testing it for extra time
clever belfry
Enhance doesn't do enough damage per screenshot yet maybe should buff them again
we love eula
warm crag
you don't just push random shit accidentally and leave it there
pulsar quest
That makes no sense
Testing it for 1 extra week just gives them more data
There’s no harm done to it
They literally lose nothing
clever belfry
These changes are all purely numerical and can be easily extrapolated
this data is useless
pulsar quest
It just doesn’t make any sense to push it then revert it when it literally just makes them look bad and gains them nothing
smoky vale
what's ur favourite greeting
meow
pulsar quest
There’s literally 0 harm in testing it on ptr for a few extra days
Just weird to revert it, in that case you lose nothing by just leaving it in.
You get an extra few days of testing it, people don’t get upset, and you don’t have to make it look like you made a mistake.
hardy bluff
also 0 harm in reverting it other than freaks crying
pulsar quest
It’s a win win.
hardy bluff
but people cry either way
pulsar quest
The harm is now you look like you made a mistake for no reason lol
It just makes you look incompetent
When you could just leave it in with 0 risk
hardy bluff
that ship has sailed
pulsar quest
Seems like a dumb decision to make to me
queen epoch
fury needs nerfs
lapis shadow
I agree
violet condor
I agree
unreal onyx
I agree
clever belfry
I agree
jolly jungle
After all the back and forth changes on the ptr, how is fury looking so far?
sour frigate
🔮
slim pollen
It's looking like fury
sour frigate
wintry smelt
Cringe game
wintry smelt
When i casually do 3x the dmg of everyone.... ended key with 2mil + dps
Yeah fuck this shit game
sour frigate
sorry bro blizzard ui cant link ur details on application to key
wintry smelt
Just gonna quit again
paper prism
Sounds like hes playing the right spec, Why play fury if not angry?
Do a lot of people run BRDwhen its timewalking?
jade tiger
He should go prot to ignore the pain of the declines
wary iris
so no buffs lovely gg bliz as per the norm
sour frigate
or your own key
depleted from 15 to 11 by now
impossible to get a good comp either
no players atm
smoky vale
i had my 14 ran down to an 11
now i have a 13
but i dont want to try without humans
pulsar quest
Double warrior keys tonight @smoky vale
edgy widget
I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just leave it in for a week in ptr to test ...
you're making an assumption that the push and/or reversion had anything to do with Wars in the first place
pulsar quest
Be there or be square
I’m just going based off the post that has only the warrior chznges
paper prism
you guys run reckless abandon or anger management?>
pulsar quest
you guys run reckless abandon or anger management?>
What content
edgy widget
just because that's all you see doesn't mean that's all there are
there's no reason to believe that they
A) Meant for the tuning to go live yesterday
B) Reverted it because they didn't mean for it to go live
Could be any number of reasons the hotfix was pushed or reverted
pulsar quest
Sure
edgy widget
such as the recurring server instability, it's just as reasonable to believe they pushed a hotfix to try to address something on the backend that accidentally included staged class changes, as it is to believe that they reverted the hotfix to fix something on the backend, which removed said changes
point is, it's all speculation and I wouldn't get so invested in the state of PTR (an environment which is by nature meant to be test and ever changing), nor take what changes happen there as a personal affront; just hold tight for the next build
smoky vale
Double warrior keys tonight <@335579026259312641>
not 5?
dense elbow
What could be good tho, is if they noticed the explosion of feedback about execute
Maybe they add something for it, now that they got to know what the people want
smoky vale
What could be good tho, is if they noticed the explosion of feedback about execu...
hi
:3
sudden tusk
I'm just assuming its part of a larger tuning pass incoming so we will see changes once they get all the data together
smoky vale
hi madox
sudden tusk
Also it's an arms tier boys buckle up
smoky vale
yesterday i chose patience
smoky vale
Also it's an arms tier boys buckle up
they just need to make pants sim the best
gleaming horizon
paper prism
What content
Sorry was in dungeon , M+
i really like anger management loop but ive seen some other furys doing more with reckless
pulsar quest
i mostly play RA but AM can be viable with mountain thane builds
paper prism
Im mountain thane SMF
modest condor
im sorry to hear that
pulsar quest
im crying
opal zenith
Lol
paper prism
i dont like bladestorm 😦
jade tiger
Also it's an arms tier boys buckle up
Why do you think it’s an Arms Tier? New to war and I would’ve said fury by the amount of bosses with adds
opal zenith
Unless fury gets buffed then arms does more damage. Aka arms tier. Plus they got a solid tier set now
modest condor
people dooming over week 1 ptr logs
blizzard pretty much confirmed with that thing yesterday that they're looking at fury tuning
paper prism
Btw does anyone know if the proc from Lord General's sword stack or would it just be consistent uptime?
BRD sword
jade tiger
So it’s not an Arms tier by how bosses work gotcha
fickle bluff
i dont like bladestorm 😦
no one was talking about mountain thane there
jade tiger
Or better phrased it’s not a locked arms bc dmg profile
modest condor
blizzard does
modest condor
heroic palace incident
dense elbow
Fury might not be the best DPS, but don't fear. Raid will be designed to make us OP in this very niche scenario, only to see us nerfed because of it. Making us boosties in all other content
Ah yes
Fury TWW experience
paper prism
no one was talking about mountain thane there
What about my Single minded fury 😛 , Slayer is probably more dps for me but i just cant stand bladestorm 😦
hollow elk
did blizzard seriously backtrack the buffs lol
dense elbow
Was likely some bugs with it, as OF was hitting for a lot more than stated. Maybe it wasnt meant to be released as it was, and they had to take it back into the oven to fix things.
We don't know why, but now we know they are there. They will likely come back and improved 
wary iris
kitty u have way more faith i nlbizzerd then msot of us me thinks lol
frank dawn
yesterday we experienced a brief bug where Fury Warrior did ok damage
dense elbow
They make OF hit hard, I simp
frank dawn
that was fixed immediately
smoky vale
They make OF hit hard, I simp
i simp you :3
smoky vale
lost vigil
So when running slayer, bladestorm gets desynced periodically. Is there a point where I want to hold bladestorm to line up with reck, Ava, and thunderous roar?
dense elbow
You always want BS to line up with Avatar/reck/roar and on the 2nd one you want it to go with OF for the avatar amp
If in m+, you can send it early if you play AM and it makes sense for the pull
In raid it is based on timers
dense elbow
Who did something to Gio? Was it Xan? Had to be Xan
smoky vale
kitty