#fury

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surreal token
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THE ONE TIER when fury could've done well, they nerf us several times in a row

frigid flicker
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I wasnt being sarcastic man

winter shoal
frigid flicker
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idk I just dont feel like its cool to have useless specs, or just supreme specs who rise waaay above others

winter shoal
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Although its niche of killing adds quickly doesn't matter that much with the gear and finery buff we have now

sour frigate
winter shoal
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We have both

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And a cracked WW

craggy sleet
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fury can still crank on ovi/rash

sour frigate
winter shoal
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You wish

craggy sleet
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100% ur burst is faster than anyone else's

frigid flicker
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but dont you think its blizzard actively making the decision not to, instead of them forgetting to do so, or doesnt pay attention to warrior

craggy sleet
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and up for every add set

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lmao

surreal token
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Yeah but is padding the meters your guys definition of relevancy?

winter shoal
sour frigate
frigid flicker
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damn what is the ST dmg on monk

sour frigate
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Top 3 on bloodbound

winter shoal
iron plaza
winter shoal
surreal token
frigid flicker
sour frigate
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Only fun boss could be court ig

winter shoal
iron plaza
sour frigate
winter shoal
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I actually don't mind the raid

sour frigate
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I personally like it

winter shoal
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Brood was omega stinky to prog

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The rest are kinda whatever

sour frigate
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More than vault and amir for sure

winter shoal
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Kyveza would've been a banger if half my guild wasn't brain damaged

craggy sleet
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kyveza holy moly

surreal token
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Blizzards ideas involve squeezing engagement metrics and game tokens out of their player base, their ideas are SHIT

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We have to fight them tooth and nail on simple QoL and bug fixes

frigid flicker
surreal token
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Their ideas are so shit that they have to redesign the arms tier partway into PTR

winter shoal
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That's kinda standard, no?

iron plaza
sour frigate
winter shoal
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I meant for tier sets to be changed during PTR but yeah that too

surreal token
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Their ideas are so shit that a core part of arms' identity - ToM is dead in the water because they couldn't be bothered updating a single tooltip: SD procs count towards ToM

winter shoal
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Except like 10.0.5 arms cranked

summer quail
summer crater
young swan
frigid flicker
surreal token
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The tier set is only the tip of the iceberg

sour frigate
surreal token
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Nerfed recklessness sure is fun, don't you guys love 20% extra crit for 6 seconds?

iron plaza
winter shoal
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I gotta say tho, for Niko to join skyhold and settle into the mindless yapping and shit-stirring that is #fury so quickly is truly goat behavior

frigid flicker
young swan
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yeah fits right in tbh

frigid flicker
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they wanna balance it

frigid flicker
surreal token
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Don't get me started on the newly redesigned titans torment

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Must've been smoking GOOD SHIT when they came up with that

sour frigate
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clueless ๐Ÿ’จ

frigid flicker
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im just genuinely curious, it just seems like such a waste of energy getting dissapointed over the class you play, cause of the expectations.

surreal token
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AM hasn't been good in how many tiers now? Going on 3?

iron plaza
frigid flicker
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it had nothing directly to do with warrior

sinful spoke
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i look so sexy

young swan
sinful spoke
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@surreal tokenare u still progging or are u done

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for the tier

sour frigate
sinful spoke
sour frigate
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Nah hm

surreal token
sinful spoke
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ok

iron plaza
sinful spoke
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thats a fair price for the hn one

frigid flicker
young swan
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its just stale

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people want new shit

sour frigate
sinful spoke
sinful spoke
young swan
sour frigate
surreal token
young swan
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s2 df was the most miserable ive been playing warrior in a while

frigid flicker
summer quail
surreal token
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This mf likes strict 1m30s cool downs

iron plaza
summer quail
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and when every other class has gotten a rework it feels bad to be left out

surreal token
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And spamming rb, bt and rampage in the meanwhile

gleaming talon
young swan
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no i think cdr is cool as long as its consistent and maintains synergy within your kit

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but it cant be consistent when its based on uptime

frigid flicker
young swan
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just ready for something new

surreal token
frank dawn
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the ultimate consistent

iron plaza
young swan
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sunk cost fallacy type shit except im not good at picking up new classes so im just stuck here

frank dawn
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the consistent consistent

frigid flicker
surreal token
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Niko, we like warrior. We like leaping and charging and doing big swings. We're gonna keep playing the class. And we're gonna speak out about it

iron plaza
surreal token
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Warrior has a massive player base, it deserves the attention

frigid flicker
surreal token
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I'm sure one or two rats from the blizz dev team look in here once a blue moon

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If it inspires them to unfuck us

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I'll bitch til the cows come home

frigid flicker
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wouldnt be so sure abt that

smoky vale
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i would

frigid flicker
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pretty sure the rogue dev left the discord cause he was getting flamed so hard

smoky vale
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yeah but could also join on a random

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could also be @warm crag

dense elbow
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I am really happy with how Fury plays atm. Think most are, so no reason to complain about that

The pruning of burst tho, that sucks sadge

dense elbow
frigid flicker
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I also assume that its not a unanimous decision on how warrios should be played. I like how warrios feel. the tuning is the part im not that fond of

sudden tusk
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Funkykitty must be CHOMPED

dense elbow
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What I do

sour frigate
sudden tusk
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idk gio was mean to you earlier

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ampin me up

surreal token
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Whoever the lead dev is must've gotten his ass beat by a warrior main or something

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Only way to justify the neglect

dense elbow
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Probably played with a fury during HC week in a dung

surreal token
frigid flicker
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I was told that the rogue dev often was not allowed to make the changes he wanted. but not much is known cause I dont think devs can speak much abt wow to the community

iron plaza
dense elbow
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I think the dev knew, balance and community team said no

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Fury was near perfect

frigid flicker
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the decision is just not fully on the class dev.

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So you never know, we might have a warrior dev screaming abt the changes you want, but they just wont get accepted by the higher ups XD

dense elbow
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I find that to be likely

frigid flicker
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wouldnt surprise me

iron plaza
dense elbow
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We will never know. But beta told me they got someone who is on my page

sour frigate
surreal token
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The shaman dev must be doing tricks on the management's D if that's the case

frigid flicker
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tbh, I really like bursty playstyle of fury. Like the one now, I just feel like the tuning is what is making it not that good.

sour frigate
surreal token
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Extra sloppy

frigid flicker
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did they even exist in df

iron plaza
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It's just funny that when it comes to Warrior, the brown class everything and every change is illegal but when it comes to other classes it's alright xd

dense elbow
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We are supposed to be fine

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Nothing more and nothing less

surreal token
sour frigate
frigid flicker
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brotha we (outlaw )have asked for a softcap for sooo long, and no response either. we asked to be able to use haste, and we got a haste requirement, but haste is still useless stat. we all get bent over

iron plaza
surreal token
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Who is this "we"

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Is it 300 rats in a trench coat?

frigid flicker
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kinda like this disc? XD

sour frigate
frigid flicker
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yes, outlaw rogue disc

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just saying, we all get bent over

surreal token
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A 3 spec DPS class

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Try again

dense elbow
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I agree with those statements, we just need a small bump on dam and tuning/rework of nodes.

Play style and performance in most content is nothing to cry about as is

surreal token
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The bait was low quality

frigid flicker
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huh?

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what are you on abt?

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outlaw didnt get bent over, cause we are 3 dps specs, aaah yes. great logic that is

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isnt it nice knowing that you arent the only ones who get royally fucked?

surreal token
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Brother we are talking about warrior as a whole

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Not a singular spec

dense elbow
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Luckily warrior isn't fucked over. We always fine

surreal token
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You keep randomly moving the goalpost

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Warrior has gotten FUCK ALL attention in years

frigid flicker
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...

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i just dont get why a full rework is the only form of attention

surreal token
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U don't even know the recent history of the class

dense elbow
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Lies, we get things. RA changed just now. TWW introduced some real dopamine burst.

We just get toys taken away, is all.

surreal token
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It's fucked

iron plaza
inner zinc
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RIP Unhinged cleave. He died too young

dense elbow
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RIP big dam deadge

frigid flicker
surreal token
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Have u guys played the new RA? It kinda stinks...

young swan
iron plaza
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Xan literally said that ppl want something new after playing the same shit for 7 years, and that requires a rework

sudden tusk
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because every full rework makes the class overbearingly overpowered for months

surreal token
sudden tusk
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and even after nerfs they are still insane

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IE shaman

dense elbow
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Some ppl want, some enjoy what is

surreal token
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Half the talents for Arms do not exist

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They aren't real talents

inner zinc
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The bottom row of fury might aswell nor exist lmao

dense elbow
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If Fury is to be reworked, it got to be a good one. And I worry more about fucking up a good thing, than the grass on the other side

frigid flicker
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but why do a rework if you feel it doesnt need a rework? how would that be lack of attention? if blizzard actively decides that they dont need a rework, should they just still make what is in their mind a bad rework anyways?

dense elbow
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We could need rework of some nodes and stuff - that is prob what most want.

Doubt ppl ask for us to become something new overall

surreal token
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If u asked in Arms whether Spiteful Serenity is worth taking, they'd spam you with keks

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They just changed titans torment and somehow made it worse for BOTH specs

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Onslaught is Onslaught

dense elbow
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TT gone is a blessing

surreal token
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slayer forces you into the BS node

iron plaza
slim coral
surreal token
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Like what aside from a rework would solve this cluster fuck of a class

slim coral
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meanwhile fury is good for a raid because ads die quick and we get punished

winter shoal
slim coral
dense elbow
iron plaza
winter shoal
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Only stormbringer was buffed

iron plaza
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Enhance is playing Stormbringer in live and they are buffing that hero talent

surreal token
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Who here wants to play Anger Management in it's current state?

frigid flicker
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is it still mountainthane in ptr, which is best for m+?

winter shoal
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Think they're gonna be playing totemic next patch (which got like a 2% nerf)

winter shoal
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I would be happy with that being the fury meta personally

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I'm an AM shill though

dense elbow
surreal token
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Let me know how being neighbour's with the Augvoker on the damage meters is treating u

frigid flicker
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why is it anyways that slayer falls off in higher keys? just cause it is too bursty, and things live too long, and it doesnt have sustain?

iron plaza
winter shoal
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Real

frigid flicker
surreal token
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We didn't do shit

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Aug did it to themselves

frigid flicker
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i sure as hell did pray on their downfall

winter shoal
surreal token
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I pray that ONE of our specs is good

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That's it man...

winter shoal
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Also fwiw I've fucked on many a weekly 10 with AM thane

dense elbow
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AM slayer will live and die if they buff BS back up, now with TT gone

winter shoal
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Granted the average dps in a pug weekly 10 is highly questionable so that's not saying much

surreal token
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I'm not asking to be Thanos like Shaman, or lowkey busted like Spriest

inner zinc
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Id like to bring great dmg cuz i sure as hell dont bring anything else

surreal token
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Just give me some hope, not design the most uninspired piece of shit tier in history

dense elbow
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Our spec is fine tho, we do m raid and top 0.1% keys and are top tier in PvP

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What more do you want

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We always fine

inner zinc
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Id like to not spend 1hr trying to find a group cuz i happen to be brown dps instead of pink or blue dps

surreal token
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I want meat

dense elbow
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Same, but that time is long gone

surreal token
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I want Gromnak to chimp out

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I wanna have some kind of niche

iron plaza
inner zinc
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I want Varyan Wrynn to come back from the dead

iron plaza
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Not just pugs, you would want to stack best dps specs in your raid(bringing more than one) than average ones

surreal token
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Not a lukewarm designed class

sour frigate
frigid flicker
dense elbow
surreal token
dense elbow
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We are fine, really. It ain't grim

surreal token
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Again, fine ain't enougj

frigid flicker
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XD

surreal token
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How much of the player base is warrior?

dense elbow
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If you want more than fine, then warrior never will be it for you

sour frigate
surreal token
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Why is that up to you

frigid flicker
surreal token
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Why does you settling for mediocrity dictate our desire for some love and care

dense elbow
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Cause some ppl are happy just living a good life. They don't want more

frigid flicker
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Isnt that your opinion though?

near tide
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link ur score funky

surreal token
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Warrior makes up a MASSIVE portion of the player base, but is still under served in comparison

frigid flicker
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Which makes it impossible to keep everyone happy

dense elbow
near tide
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like unironically its as easy as changing %s in a sheet and fixing them each week its not even difficult to balance classes

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saying oh no its fine is beyond cope

dense elbow
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It is fine tho, all data point to it. You just want more

near tide
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its not

dense elbow
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That is a whole other can of worms

near tide
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all data says

frigid flicker
near tide
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all data says its bad and m+ has never been worse off

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lmao

surreal token
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Yeah no shit I want more. When other classes get to have their cake and eat it too, why can't I?

near tide
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cope

surreal token
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Why should your opinion be the prevalent one?

surreal token
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If it was up to you, we'd all be WW monks

dense elbow
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True

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Fake warrior

sour frigate
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Boxer class on top ๐Ÿ‘Š

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Therefore only 4 wws are 0.1

frigid flicker
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Lol

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Also 1,4 st dps being a 99, and 2,8 on ovi being a 99. How many ppl play ww?

surreal token
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I'm fine with being mid af for 3 tiers if it means I got to go full on super saiyan in one tier

sour frigate
surreal token
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But we can't even get that

dense elbow
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We had our saian

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Rwf

surreal token
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In Legion?

dense elbow
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HC week

surreal token
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Hello?

inner zinc
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They didnt even allow us to reach ssj2 before they cut the grass underneat our feet sadge

dense elbow
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That was our time

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It is gone now

near tide
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fury wasnt better than frost before nerfs n higher keys lol

dense elbow
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We are back to fine

near tide
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wdym we had it

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nevere even had it

frigid flicker
near tide
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this boy is rage baiting

dense elbow
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Noone beat us in HC week, we deleted packs too fast

near tide
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no frost still did in 11s 12s

dense elbow
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This be why forum was in uproar

iron plaza
sour frigate
frigid flicker
near tide
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bc they timed boss adds to perfectly line up with furys cds lmao

dense elbow
sour frigate
frigid flicker
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That is crazy. We arent many outlaws as well. But we got some cracked ones, so we still have tough competetion within top 25

dense elbow
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Fuck man

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I am rolling monk

sour frigate
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Ill just buy a m+15 carry and be there...

dense elbow
frigid flicker
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lol

surreal token
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Idk if enough people have played yet, but next tier fury is looking downright horrific

sour frigate
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Someone posted data here

dense elbow
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PTR ain't that bad in m+, just don't look at meters

sour frigate
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Both of brownies were horrible

surreal token
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How that tier even got past the concept board is beyond me

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At least they realized how piss awful Arms was

dense elbow
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TierSet functions, it ain't... Problematic... Just kinda meh. As always.

frigid flicker
surreal token
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But that's it's own can of worms

inner zinc
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Well on the bright side if they are revisiting the tier set of other specs, might be gooe for a fury revisit copium

tired violet
surreal token
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This entire upcoming tier design stinks

dense elbow
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And execute

frigid flicker
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Yup

inner zinc
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Execute is doomed

surreal token
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The whole roll the dice, goblim theme is cool in theory

frigid flicker
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Seems like alot of em suck

surreal token
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In practice it puts me to slee0

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That'd be fine if our base class didn't feel so bleh too

dense elbow
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If there was a huge fun payoff, sure. Imagine if (4) was JACKPOT! Next execute does 1000% damage!!

sour frigate
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Goblin theme would be if boosts will cost x2 gold ๐Ÿ‘

dense elbow
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Something wild and fun

surreal token
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But I guess they didn't want to limit fury to a hero talent like they did Arms

sullen dove
dense elbow
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I still can't see that as anything but a :o face

surreal token
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overcooked this should be the icon for blizzdesign

dense elbow
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Rude, but you got a point

sour frigate
surreal token
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There's no way anyone would equate that cute emote with blizz design

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It logically doesn't track

dense elbow
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Did you see the beta Odyns??

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That was design!!

surreal token
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Beta never happens

dense elbow
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I live in beta, waiting for TWW beta classic

sour frigate
surreal token
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Warrior is always good in beta, then they claw it back to some abomination by the time mythic week rolls around

dense elbow
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Told ya, we always be fine

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Just fine

surreal token
dense elbow
inner zinc
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They need to buff T blast more. Wont be satisfied until I get this

young swan
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tblast unironically does need a buff

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its lower prio than RB on ST lmfao

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that button needs god

dense elbow
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That is fine, it is like OF, not supposed to be brought.

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Use spear

young swan
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?

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thunder blast

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the mountain thane ability

dense elbow
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Not Roar?

young swan
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no

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roar is good

dense elbow
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It is fine, sure

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I can agree on not evil

sullen dove
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what is blud yappin bout

dense elbow
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TB being weak

sullen dove
sudden tusk
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rework the entire class. remove WW meat cleaver and let every ability passivley cleave

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we should be into the Slams style of gameplay

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where we literally hit our main target so hard it does aoe damage

dense elbow
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That is how demolish should have worked. But alas, we WoW warriors. We tickle and prod, we dont do dam.
That is a dps job.

inner zinc
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I miss WW hitting hard instead of hitting like a strongly worded letter

dense elbow
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I don't care if ww hits hard. I want my spender and executes to pump

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WW just needs good animation and sfx

inner zinc
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Yeah the sfx feels bad lol

dense elbow
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Animation is pretty solid

sullen dove
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sound effect of fwom fwom fwom is like as good as it gets

dense elbow
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Woosh woosh woosh is nice too

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It is soothing

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A familiar sound

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Like rain

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Or walking on snow

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Sand under foot on the beach

inner zinc
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Or the anger filled voice of an imperial dreadnaught

dense elbow
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Go play a real game for that

frigid flicker
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Feel like we just got some supremacy going on in m+ rn

dense elbow
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What ya mean, Mr Niko

frigid flicker
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Well, idk just seems like a decent chunk of dps specs arent close to enhance as an example.

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or ele

inner zinc
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Or ret

frigid flicker
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Or balance?

dense elbow
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Your point my good sir?

frigid flicker
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had no point, just seems like there is a lot of dps, who kind of feel not that good atm. While some are thriving very much so.

dense elbow
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I refer to the discussion you partook in previously. Don't fret, we are fine even now 1 hour later. Myesss

frigid flicker
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Oh yeah, idk. It was just an observation. I still dont want to play those classes, and it just is what it is

dense elbow
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Dont worry, we have more fun playing the game. So we are the real winners

frigid flicker
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My good sir๐Ÿคต๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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Yes ๐Ÿ˜„

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Fr, i play with a friend who literally doesnt care

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He is having a blast

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Cause nothing you can do will change anything anyways

sullen dove
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any idea why chamber guardian (tank add) in p2 spider woman just seems to have paper threat

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like is it just flat tank issue or is that thing weird as shit

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cuz twice in like 3 pulls now my tank swears he taunts it and is hitting it and i touch the add with 1 odyns and it instakills me

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on 2nd plat it also seems to rush to the first person that reaches it (me)

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but then idk it gets taunted and i assume its dandy and then i pop cds and die 1 second into bladestorm

sudden tusk
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that add set can also be rough going onto plat 2 becuase hes prob worried about spider aggro too

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also for plat 2 id reccomend using your CDs early then part way through them using bladestorm to immune the wrest on melee side

sinful spoke
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get off skyhold and focus up

sudden tusk
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if you wait too long to use them when everything is grouped it can be late for add set 1 in P3

sullen dove
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plenty focused chatting

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ya i use em as soon as spooders get close

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takes like 3 sec after i charge to shield guy

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or u jus mean right there

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still bs the wrest

sinful spoke
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Imagine needing bs and not just gliding

sullen dove
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imagine being a scalie

sinful spoke
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Couldnt be me aka the superior warrior

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Aka the better looking warrior

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Just pop ur cds on the bridge

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At least roar avatar and recklessness

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Bladestorm can be brought back in 30-40s

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And use ur of on the adds on the last platform

signal peak
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TL:DR Ring output was cut in half but overall damage went up 100k

sullen dove
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linkge

covert blaze
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streamer swordish

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holy

sullen dove
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had it for like 2 weeks..

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saw p3 once surely boss will be getting exploded in t minus 5 minutes

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(next week)

sudden tusk
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im a fish beleiver

outer rover
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hi. on ptr what talent we drop for sudden death when playing slayer?

sullen dove
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@fleet sorrel chatting

fleet sorrel
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which one is that

sullen dove
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idk first one

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natlan one

fleet sorrel
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i legit think the last one is impossible

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with everything on

sullen dove
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the crab?

fleet sorrel
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yeah

sullen dove
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beluga says impossible...

fleet sorrel
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idk i tried for like 30 mins with 3 hydro team

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couldnt break horns

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only thing i didnt try was kokomi

sullen dove
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the missing piece

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powerful kok

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dont seem convinced any amount of geo dmg enough for golem guy without some giga cring cons...

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perhaps dong lee meatball breaks all 3 pillars at once surely

fleet sorrel
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i used navia i think

sullen dove
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yea i think my itto is like way better than navia but perhaps i must succumb

gleaming siren
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Chinese gambling gama

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the children yearn for the gamba

sullen dove
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make westerners poor

radiant plank
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Any agree'ers

sullen dove
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true

smoky vale
sullen dove
unreal onyx
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How is prot looking like? Can I still be the raidbuff guy?

chrome plover
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sir season 1 is about to end

smoky vale
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sir

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i love you

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@chrome plover

chrome plover
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love u too

south kayak
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What's a similar spec to fury in terms of burst aoe

flat river
mossy fox
flat river
flat river
south kayak
frigid flicker
queen flower
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Single target is mid to bad, sustained multitarget is target capped most of the time, burst aoe is getting nerfed, and all your cooldowns are going to desync constantly making your rotation a hot mess. And execute hits like a melting pool noodle.

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(this is mostly me venting over the stuff I am seeing in ptr notes)

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also also single minded fury is still being held back because they hate fun

fickle bluff
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you were doing so well then fell apart at the end

queen flower
#

yeah yeah I like SMF, but the first part is fairly accurate (so far as I know)

frigid flicker
#

It is what it is, hopefully they realise what they have done at some point

queen flower
#

utility side is like, 2 stuns, immunity shatter, aoe health boost, and an aoe fear

frigid flicker
#

Seems like it has no real identity if it loses the burst

queen flower
#

the dev working on warrior did nothing to us for most of dragonflight and season 1 of tww, and now they seem to be changing things for the sake of changing things, without any real concrete plans aside from "the one thing we know they are good at is too good better nerf it and reckless abandon has been meta for to long"

fickle bluff
#

i dont know where youre getting the idea we wont still be playing reckless abandon from

queen flower
#

remodeling those two things is going to hurt the playstyle because they are not being compensated in other areas that feel noticeably different, even if the numbers work out the same in the end

#

yeah, I am not swapping to AM just because it would desync my CDs even more than they do now

radiant plank
queen flower
#

maybe they thought that making RA a burst CD would compensate for titans torment getting taken out behind the shed to be executed, leaving the position vacant.

fickle bluff
#

again youre insinuating RA is worse now

queen flower
#

because now you are going to have to rely even harder on your CDs

unreal onyx
queen flower
#

no, its probably going to be the same, but its a big spike instead of a steady boost

#

the feel will be different, even if the end numbers are the same

#

but you cant translate that into AOE because the bloodbath dot does not apply to cleaved targets(probably deliberate)

fickle bluff
#

so you havent been keeping up then

mossy fox
#

RA on ptr feels pretty good as thane at least, didnt try as slayer yet

fickle bluff
#

bloodbaths been cleaving since last week

queen flower
#

nice nice

#

I wish slayer just went all in on CD reduction for the spec, just everything go fast

fickle bluff
#

doesnt mean much for m+ though since a minute long dot you have to maintain is worthless when mobs die in 30s

queen flower
#

or bigger executes

#

does the minute long dot improve our single target noticably?

fickle bluff
#

as of numbers i have right now, it is marginally ahead of live dps

queen flower
#

neat

flat river
frigid flicker
#

Is thane still the better option for m+ on ptr?

flat river
#

@fickle bluff cleave is pretty neat for MT fights though

queen flower
#

without the titans torment burst aoe, I assume thane will reign supreme for aoe going forward

#

just more consistent overall

chrome plover
#

yes i can solo the boss clueless

south kayak
#

lmao

radiant plank
smoky vale
unreal onyx
summer crater
#

Oh nevermind

#

Thought it was about PTR

chrome plover
#

u can never be clear enough ๐Ÿ˜”

summer crater
#

In that case outlaw should be much higher than fury

frigid flicker
final birch
#

For nothing

#

As valid as any tier list on icy veins

eternal abyss
#

It looks as valid as Max's "completely objective and 100% correct tier list"

#

So... good meme okayge

frigid flicker
#

Pala in middle for utility is a crime XD

clever belfry
#

oh wait.

dense elbow
#

If paladin is mid of dam, then warrior is really lost.
Being mid is all we had going for us Hydrate

gleaming siren
#

If Shadow is low dam then mythic encounters will be 2 min max

#

Gg

tender forge
#

Guys can we make mad queens mandate crit with reck?

oblique trail
#

No

#

Recklessness only affects class abilities

tender forge
#

ahhh thats unfortunate

oblique trail
#

It's fortunate

#

Because making class buffs affect external damage leads to quite degenerate gameplay at times

tender forge
#

yeah man i remember draught of souls in nighthold

oblique trail
#

It'd also mean, that if Mandate did enough damage to warrant it, you'd hold Reck for 30 seconds to align it at 2 min

#

Although this is a rather extreme example, it wouldn't be unheard of

tender forge
#

thank you for the insight x

gleaming siren
#

2B-anezi very smart

oblique trail
#

I think objectively speaking, not as smart as Capymidi

clever belfry
#

banezi u have to find an astra-nomical pfp

#

now that u have her

#

HER vs HIM

#

@oblique trail !!!ยก11ยก

oblique trail
#

are you okay chief

#

have you not had your gonster yet

clever belfry
#

i have not i must EXPLODE

oblique trail
#

I just got a crazy relic in china gambler game

oblique trail
clever belfry
clever belfry
#

drinking it will also explode me

oblique trail
clever belfry
#

GGGGGGG

#

bรคlle

sour tundra
#

anyone have a good fury build for mythic + on the PTR?

clever belfry
#

id encourage you to experiment on the ptr ๐Ÿ‘

dense elbow
#

Standard live builds, then add to talents you want to tey

#

My fav so far is exe based, am slayer build. Does decent dam, and if I pretend OF does 3x dam, it is good DPS

#

Wonder when number tuning will hit tho, feel it is about time now

placid adder
outer rover
frank dawn
#

Honestly Slayer plays really well with SD and dropping some RB stuff imo

dense elbow
frank dawn
#

the numbers just don't like those choices, for now

dense elbow
#

Exe build Slayer is the Slayer

#

Likely what they wanted us to go for

#

But ye, exe too weak atm to carry that

#

(exe buffs when blizz)

clever belfry
#

pidgeonholing slayer into being exe reliant without exe doing fuck all

#

one of the possible choices for sure

#

๐Ÿ‘

winter shoal
#

BatChest I love execute and bladestorm as fury

gleaming talon
#

but i LOVE Execute

#

nothing like a good old 2 mil execute for the win in pvp

frank dawn
#

next week for sure they fix execute and sudden death for slayer

#

and totally make our capstones cool

#

absolutely

#

next week

#

zero doubt

#

I do find it kind of funny tho that execute has what...a 50% multiplier in pvp now

#

but apparently it's fine in pve

thick fossil
modest condor
#

grip and bres

#

oh and amz

#

dk has just about the same amount of utility as warrior does

frank dawn
#

multi person AMS and AMZ and Brez are pretty strong tho lol

coarse nest
#

Ahh I tried reading and found the โ€œdamage & utilityโ€ texts

radiant plank
modest condor
#

then warrior should be way higher

radiant plank
#

idk

#

i didnt make it

#

go complain to Zorthas

#

he just said warrior 0 util mid dam

coarse nest
#

We stun things once and a while

frank dawn
#

honeslty with the dk nerfs, dps war might be the tankiest dps?

modest condor
#

i bet there are things you can do with intervene that nobody knows about because nobody plays it

coarse nest
#

Intervene reflect could be cool tech

#

Come on bliz!

unreal kelp
#

Give us mass reflect copium

next ruin
#

are there people still pushing as slayer in keys ?

warm crag
#

not something to want

oblique trail
#

<@&257983573498265600>

surreal mirage
oblique trail
#

my 50 euro steam code..

#

Should've taken it

chrome plover
#

damn i always miss the scammers

coarse nest
#

Yellow man ban power would go hard

trail bane
coarse nest
prime wind
#

Is there any reason warriors still play slayer spec in keys? Isn't thane objectively better in any key above a 12?

prime wind
#

Problem with slayer felt like off cds you couldn't do any decent dmg, while with thane you can kinda get some decent numbers from clap procs to at least not feel like a dead weight

coarse nest
#

Sounds about right, slayer is more about burst and packs dying fast

#

Thane is more about sustained aoe

prime wind
#

Yeah, I also thought when they buffed thane I wouldn't like the spec, after all losing ww felt weird for the class

#

But shit, thane is just fun seeing you do more constant dmg

coarse nest
#

Wait until you realize Thunderclap is basically a cosmetic whirlwind glyph when you are thane spec

prime wind
#

I still struggle to get 2.1m dps on a nw key while a ret finishes with 2.26 no problems

#

Kinda feels bad

prime wind
#

I've had groups that didn't have slow and saved on the 2nd siege boss from jumping

prime wind
winter shoal
prime wind
fervent yoke
#

If you got a pumper / timer group going on higher keys you can go slayer in M+

#

but pug I always go thane

prime wind
fervent yoke
#

burst damage vs sustained. If you got a coordinated premade slayer can be useful if you are optimizing your burst

prime wind
#

ah i see, makes sense yeah

oblique trail
#

Thane still does a lot of burst

#

Slayer's is just a lot more consolidated

prime wind
#

i usually compare my warrior to the ones i see with my alt, and their dmg always lacks insanely in comparison in the same key level

#

That's why i was wondering

coarse nest
clever belfry
#

oi BRUV

prime wind
frank dawn
#

engi rez is ok, but it's a pretty massive step back from most any real combat rez imo

prime wind
#

ye

#

also warrior dmg wont cover for dk dmg if both players are on equal skill level

oblique trail
#

It's not the same as a normal BR, but it can easily save a wipe, and then a key

prime wind
#

ye, ofc

oblique trail
#

The only disparity really, is if you die to a knock ability, like on Siege last boss, and you get flung into the water or something else inaccessible

prime wind
#

i also really like the thane surv with IV stam buff

#

has saved me couple times

#

plus not having to ever use execute

clever belfry
#

engi res this xpac kinda good honestly

#

its not the dogshit from bfa-df

#

i was shocked how fast it was

prime wind
#

what's the difference? the cast time?

oblique trail
#

It's a pretty fast cast time (relative to old engi CRs), and I've yet to have it fail on me as well even at just r2

prime wind
#

ah nice

oblique trail
#

Though I don't know what the chance of it failing is

warm crag
#

that's right you can't

oblique trail
#

I can't

#

For I have yet to have it fail

#

!

prime wind
#

you know what's sad though

#

nw first pack with an UH in the group

gleaming siren
#

I believe

clever belfry
#

wtf hacker

oblique trail
#

oh ye

#

It's in the tooltip

#

Just never looked at it

gleaming siren
#

R3 is really fast

#

Like normal bres fast just have to be melee

#

And I don't believe they have fail chance

#

They're straight up really good

oblique trail
#

This section is just what I assumed is a fail

gleaming siren
#

Maybe idk

clever belfry
#

I think it doesn't knock u down anymore n shit

#

just fails gracefully

gleaming siren
#

No big fail

#

Ye

#

Just sometimes doesn't work

clever belfry
#

But ye just ping noobers, leap noobers corpse and ress

gleaming siren
#

But there's legit 0 reason not to have Cables on any character that doesn't have a CR spell

#

Even on some of them it's arguably just good like DK where you could be stuck without RP

gleaming siren
#

Idk how they are now

oblique trail
gleaming siren
#

Start of Xpac R3 was pretty expensive for a consumable

oblique trail
#

Somewhat cheap

gleaming siren
#

Oh ye

oblique trail
#

500g per use isn't terrible

gleaming siren
#

That's nothing

winter shoal
#

I use r2 bc I'm a broke boy

gleaming siren
#

You're not using that many

winter shoal
#

I think I've used like 5 of them all season?

gleaming siren
#

They were like 10k start of xpac I think

#

That was a bit too expensive

prime wind
#

trying to finish this season with 3.1k, would be happy deadge

sour frigate
warm crag
#

no one is inviting warrior to +10

prime wind
#

i'm at the deadzone of 13s with only one 14 timed, it's the point where people that barely time a 12 gather

winter shoal
#

My 625 2.4k rogue gets into 10s ezpz deadge

prime wind
#

difference between a more meta spec and a non meta spec, plus your main score being linked

warm crag
solemn plover
sullen dove
#

can blizz pls fix this spec

solemn plover
#

yeah I agree Warrior sucks for keys right now please fix our spec

fickle bluff
winter shoal
glad coyote
dense elbow
#

I got 3.1k and I dont get invited, so I presume you will need around 3.2-3.3k score, or at least most to all 14s already done in time

iron spire
#

Having minor debate with my RL, does heroic leap treat you like you're at the origin until it lands, or does your position update midleap for getting hit by shit

solemn plover
#

and i have no ress

#

isnt that the usual experience @fickle bluff @warm crag

fickle bluff
glad coyote
devout totem
iron spire
#

thanks for backing me up then, gonna quote this

devout totem
#

eg last boss necrotic wake, u get hit by the slow snow areas when u r sent below

iron spire
#

discussion around carrying the seed in p3 ansurek for leaping the wave

devout totem
#

when u leap over

fickle bluff
summer crater
glad coyote
dense elbow
#

Ppl usually just look at your ingame shown score :v

glad coyote
#

score only shows so much

#

doesnt show how much you interupt or fail to aviodable mechs

dense elbow
#

Interesting, and where does WoWop.io scrape its data?

glad coyote
#

warcraft logs

summer crater
dense elbow
#

So you only get data from ppl with logged runs

#

That sounds, not extremely useful

glad coyote
#

i get it but its the new thing so

dense elbow
#

Fads gonna fad, I guess, fair

glad coyote
#

another thing people will use for invites now

summer crater
#

I mostly think it's useless because people in pugs will automatically do much less dps usually

#

Well, you can get a lot of interrupt in when you do pugs at least

winter shoal
#

That's largely true, but playing badly will have a larger negative impact on your dps than pug routes will

dense elbow
#

Sure, but have you played Slayer with a tank trolling you?

summer crater
winter shoal
#

Sure

#

But there are also 2600 people in 10s doing 750k overall

#

That's not a route issue

dense elbow
#

Well, 10s are boost runs

#

like come on

winter shoal
#

I pretty much just do 10s for vault Shruge

#

cba sitting in queue longer for score keys at this point

dense elbow
#

My point is, you cant get valid mass data from 10s. It is clustered with weekly keys, drunk keys, meme keys, booster keys

winter shoal
#

Doesn't that imply that WoWOP is irrelevant for 10s then

dense elbow
#

I presume it would be mostly irrelevant for 99% of content :P

warm crag
summer crater
#

Nowadays it just seems even for 10s people tend to artistically try to just go for Meta specs

#

It's so easy to get invites on some alts even with low scores

glad coyote
#

thats the problem with meta

summer crater
#

Autistically not artist

radiant plank
#

What a dogshit website

#

omE

summer crater
glad coyote
#

and even now that the player base is low due to season dragging out people would rather take a meta class than others

summer crater
#

In before you have to be a nelf or dwarf even for 10s

oblique trail
warm crag
solemn plover
#

I have beaten blue sarkareth

fickle bluff
dense elbow
#

I want my IP back, but it will never return. Dont do my misstake, never visit a website

jovial coral
oblique trail
jovial coral
chilly compass
#

Hey all, coming back to fury after playing prot over a year, quick question that I'm probably thinking too hard on. I have the WA to track Bloodcraze. Am I supposed to prefer raging/crushing blow over bloodbath until the guarantee crit, or just press bloodbath as it procs?

fickle bluff
#

tracking bloodcraze on its own isnt worth it

chilly compass
hardy shuttle
#

Just make sure you use both CB and BB before rampaging.

fickle bluff
#

you will consume bloodbath every time so its not that important where in you fit it

hardy shuttle
#

The tracking is more to prio a 100% crit bt over a regular raging blow i believe.

chilly compass
#

So this WA really isn't necessary as a DPS gain? Bit of a headache to look at anyway.

fickle bluff
#

is it bloodthirst crit, or bloodcraze, because they are different things

chilly compass
#

I'm sorry, it was actually from IcyVeins.

fickle bluff
#

so its a crit tracker

chilly compass
#

This guy. I was using it to optimize spreading the dot in keys

fickle bluff
#

that is worth tracking

#

use bloodbath over crushing blow at ~85-90%

chilly compass
#

So until it's ready to crit, I prefer crushing over bloodbath? that was my original question. Probably thinking too hard.

fickle bluff
#

specifically crushing blow

#

not raging blow

chilly compass
#

So if I have a proc of bloodbath that is not guaranteed to crit and a raging blow I'd still prefer bloodbath? That was my understanding.

fickle bluff
#

yeah

chilly compass
#

Ok, thank you! This had my head spinning for a minute.

warm crag
solemn plover
fickle bluff
gleaming siren
radiant plank
coarse nest
dense elbow
#

You are overthinking it, on ST ppl seem to say CB over BB, and on MT BB over CB - honestly, it doesnt matter, you send both either way in 99% cases

dense elbow
dense elbow
hardy bluff
#

testing is happening rn

dense elbow
young swan
dense elbow
#

s1?

hardy bluff
coarse nest
#

Fury feels like fury!?!?

hardy bluff
#

you cant get to next boss

#

lole

young swan
#

instead of mashing CB u mash BB

dense elbow
#

seems fair

clever belfry
#

when will warrior finally explode

fickle bluff
#

right now

clever belfry
#

no way

winter shoal
#

HOLY

#

There have been developments in the her space

fickle bluff
#

holy

#

my gem alarm is going off

paper prism
#

Any single minded fury enjoyers?

solemn plover
fickle bluff
#

i enjoy going 5% faster in 8 year old content yeah

tight hill
#

Hello guys, I'm looking for some advices. I'm trying to play a Mountain thane Mythic+ regular build with Anger management and frenzied enrage. I tried that to have a more flat DPS (yes like earth). Do you see any other changes that would make this build better? (CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxghhZwywMzGMMjxwMMzssNzYmZWYmxMzwMsYbGmZMAAAQYMwGssY0YGQmFYxYB)

winter shoal
#

Drop Odyn's for Vicious Contempt

#

And change the point in titan's torment to berserker's torment probably

#

Idk if it's worth going into DoI, it might be

tight hill
#

That sounds great. I'll try that. Thank you very much. ๐Ÿ™‚

fluid shadow
#

can you bitter immunity bleeds?

young swan
#

no

hardy cargo
#

They took so much away during DF beta cycle sadge

grave lark
#

Was removed in the alpha/beta iirc

junior gale
dense elbow
#

To be fair, that was busted AF

junior gale
#

Fuck pvpers man

dense elbow
tired violet
#

can we have ignore pain back

smoky vale
#

no

tired violet
dense elbow
smoky vale
#

arms doesnt even get it so why should fury

dense elbow
#

Cause Fury is just better

lapis shadow
#

Copium

dense elbow
#

Truthium

lapis shadow
#

I am fury player but we are not better in blizz side

dense elbow
#

We just that much better, that they gotta nerf us even when we are behind

#

it is what Fury life is all about

summer quail
lapis shadow
fluid shadow
fluid shadow
smoky vale
tired violet
#

whats otps?

#

ive heard of OTPH

nimble ermine
#

one trick ponies

#

aka poeple who just play 1 thing and 1 thing only

hexed kiln
#

guys

#

what is going on with this warrior in my mythic pug

#

he forgot something

modest condor
#

nah

#

pressing rampage reduces your RAGE which makes you less ANGRY and we are FURY warriors who want to be ANGRY all the time

flat river
#

dam

sour frigate
hexed kiln
#

he didnt die

nimble ermine
#

ignoring the lack of rampage

#

why is slam so high up

flat river
#

cause he slammed

hexed kiln
#

hes slammin

sour frigate
#

Ww 800k true and real

sour frigate
hexed kiln
#

no

#

i appreciate him

dense elbow
#

Huh, that is slam

#

And wrecking throw

#

That guy living the best life

#

I respect it

nimble ermine
#

wait i didnt see the throw

slim coral
nimble ermine
#

holy that guy is just having fun

#

respectable

nimble ermine
hexed kiln
#

theres like 3 scenarios

#

1 he cooked up his own build and is a free thinking chad

#

2 he's on a friends account and doesnt know what buttons do

ruby osprey
#

tbh, I'd like to see his build ๐Ÿ˜„

hexed kiln
#

3 his button broke

sour frigate
#

had the incident myself

dense elbow
#

The damage breakdown overall, looks like a classic AM one tho, BT is a bit low - but oh well

I think he just pumping and having fun, slamming and wrecking once a while

edgy oasis
sour frigate
dim spindle
#

Friends don't let friends buy wow accounts

surreal token
#

In this thread: lifetime warriors bully some poor dude who wanted to Spin-to-Win

manic mirage
fluid shadow
compact knot
#

he has been using slam since lvl 10 and hasnt switched to rampage yet

gilded pawn
#

people free styling their rotation

#

damn

summer crater
smoky vale
surreal token
sinful spoke
#

Guys this is very fury related my gym banned balls to the wall

#

๐Ÿ˜”

sinful spoke
#

I locked in last night

#

Tonight is geekin night

dense elbow
#

Wait, they buffed BT and RB, but not execute?

#

Nah, I am prob just dreaming, that cant be

sudden tusk
#

@edgy widget im assuming these are post Raid testing changes you guys scooped up

edgy widget
#

idk what time they hit exactly since I've been busy all day, but they're new hotfixes yeah

sudden tusk
#

hell yeah

slim coral
#

guys

#

our dev woke up

dense elbow
#

Doubt that

slim coral
#

we back?

dense elbow
#

nein

slim coral
#

I must test these asap

fervent violet
#

TIME TO BE META BOYS

summer quail
umbral dust
#

IM CRYING

#

IT HAPPENED

slim coral
#

honestly it doesnt really bother me that much

warm crag
lean heart
#

MASHALLAH WARRIOR BUFFS ๐Ÿคฒ

compact siren
#

Banezi said that the warrior buffs are fake and photoshopped

clever belfry
#

๐Ÿšจ mr president another warrior buff has hit the servers ๐Ÿšจ

compact siren
#

maga

maiden ingot
oblique trail
flat river
#

XD

compact siren
clever belfry
#

astra-nomical moment

compact siren
#

mods ban his ass

gleaming siren
#

BASED

#

BANEZI

edgy widget
lean heart
quiet geyser
#

how the hell did fury dodge the execute buff?