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I wasnt being sarcastic man
tbf fury is still pretty good in raid
idk I just dont feel like its cool to have useless specs, or just supreme specs who rise waaay above others
Although its niche of killing adds quickly doesn't matter that much with the gear and finery buff we have now
If u don't have a ret and dh in maybe 
fury can still crank on ovi/rash
Thats me
You wish
100% ur burst is faster than anyone else's
but dont you think its blizzard actively making the decision not to, instead of them forgetting to do so, or doesnt pay attention to warrior
Yeah but is padding the meters your guys definition of relevancy?
I had better on first 4 earlier 
damn what is the ST dmg on monk
Top 3 on bloodbound
I mean I'm not saying it's a good niche, but it is a niche we kind of dominate
Who the heck knows, I don't work at Blizzard and I don't have any connection with them; It could be bias or lack of human resource or they deciding what class should be meta or not, when you found this out consider telling me too
He would've done better on first 2 if I wasn't stealing his add damage 
True, prog is when we really shine
This raid is ass for ww 
exactly, so dont you think youre making yourself too miserable by saying that blizzard neglected you. when it might just be that they have a differnt idea.
Only fun boss could be court ig
This raid is ass for ww 
I couldn't care less about their idea, they don't play their own game

True
I actually don't mind the raid
I personally like it
More than vault and amir for sure
Kyveza would've been a banger if half my guild wasn't brain damaged
kyveza holy moly
Blizzards ideas involve squeezing engagement metrics and game tokens out of their player base, their ideas are SHIT
We have to fight them tooth and nail on simple QoL and bug fixes
then you can play another class. Cause they are the ones who make the changes. its kinda hard to play a game not developed by you, and be mad that you dont get what you ask for. when there are millions of players
Their ideas are so shit that they have to redesign the arms tier partway into PTR
That's kinda standard, no?
Sure but I don't remember asking you about how I should be playing
For arms being shit? 
I meant for tier sets to be changed during PTR but yeah that too
Their ideas are so shit that a core part of arms' identity - ToM is dead in the water because they couldn't be bothered updating a single tooltip: SD procs count towards ToM
Except like 10.0.5 arms cranked
ehh i don't disagree with their ideas being shit but tiersets being the argument is not really valid imo. they redesign tons of tiersets on ptr before they go live
Wouldn't that almost be worse? That they're actively deciding which specs would be best or worst
tbf tom sucks, the only reason people like tom is because of rose tinted nyalotha glasses
why on earth would you ask me? im just saying that having unrealistic expectations and then getting mad over those not getting fulfilled, is kinda silly.
The tier set is only the tip of the iceberg
yeah FUCK Tom
10.2.5 went big after insane 6% aura buff and x2 4pc buff
Nerfed recklessness sure is fun, don't you guys love 20% extra crit for 6 seconds?
That's your opinion so you can keep it to yourself or anyone who agrees with you mate, I didn't ask about your opinion sadly
I gotta say tho, for Niko to join skyhold and settle into the mindless yapping and shit-stirring that is #fury so quickly is truly goat behavior
that is not what i said. just cause they have a differnt idea of how the class should be doesnt mean they make it the worst spec in the game
TRUE
yeah fits right in tbh
they wanna balance it
why did you step in then?๐
Don't get me started on the newly redesigned titans torment
Must've been smoking GOOD SHIT when they came up with that
im just genuinely curious, it just seems like such a waste of energy getting dissapointed over the class you play, cause of the expectations.
AM hasn't been good in how many tiers now? Going on 3?
Because you are here for some reason defending Blizzard it's just disgusting, especially after this disaster of a PTR cycle they've pulled
it had nothing directly to do with warrior
kinda happy about that tbh, that playstyle reeks
I sold the bug for 300k...
the mythic one?
Nah hm
Well get ready for the new RA, which somehow makes things worse than before
ok
What happened to you Xan, What made you to say this...
thats a fair price for the hn one
you can trade it to ppl outside of raid?
expectations dont really ahve anything to do with it, people just want something new cause we're going on 8 years without any significant playstyle change
its just stale
people want new shit
I thought could ask more
no
this late into the season idk
am sux, make it static cdr reduction
No only to those who was on a kill
Agreed
s2 df was the most miserable ive been playing warrior in a while
I assumed so, i have the HM as well. think I alsmost traded it for a queen trinket XD
we just want changes. after this expansion it will be 8 years staying the same
This mf likes strict 1m30s cool downs
I thought you are against having cdr as a whole
and when every other class has gotten a rework it feels bad to be left out
And spamming rb, bt and rampage in the meanwhile
no i think cdr is cool as long as its consistent and maintains synergy within your kit
but it cant be consistent when its based on uptime
I get that, but if you want something youre not gonna get, why keep playing the class? isnt it more abt having fun? seems like after 8 years they still have the same idea for the class.
i still like warrior
just ready for something new
True, getting mechs during Aberrus was a death sentence
it's consistent as long as your uptime is consistent
the ultimate consistent
Because ppl like warrior and it's fantasy ? Many are passionate about their favorite class it's nothing new
sunk cost fallacy type shit except im not good at picking up new classes so im just stuck here
the consistent consistent
ofc, just sadly not how it works. seems like they decided that feedback from community is not something they care much abt
Niko, we like warrior. We like leaping and charging and doing big swings. We're gonna keep playing the class. And we're gonna speak out about it
Well if you don't want it to be relying on Uptime, it's either flat reduction or that
Warrior has a massive player base, it deserves the attention
ofc, and I dont think you shouldnt speak abt it. Just seemed like the misery was for no good reason.
I'm sure one or two rats from the blizz dev team look in here once a blue moon
If it inspires them to unfuck us
I'll bitch til the cows come home
wouldnt be so sure abt that
i would
pretty sure the rogue dev left the discord cause he was getting flamed so hard
I am really happy with how Fury plays atm. Think most are, so no reason to complain about that
The pruning of burst tho, that sucks 
nerf of

I also assume that its not a unanimous decision on how warrios should be played. I like how warrios feel. the tuning is the part im not that fond of
Funkykitty must be CHOMPED
What I do

Whoever the lead dev is must've gotten his ass beat by a warrior main or something
Only way to justify the neglect
Probably played with a fury during HC week in a dung

I was told that the rogue dev often was not allowed to make the changes he wanted. but not much is known cause I dont think devs can speak much abt wow to the community
This is literally the example of they having no idea what the hell are they doing with Fury, First they hype it up and go for that big instant burst niche and then they regret it because of how they've designed most of their bosses in raid
the decision is just not fully on the class dev.
So you never know, we might have a warrior dev screaming abt the changes you want, but they just wont get accepted by the higher ups XD
I find that to be likely
wouldnt surprise me
Who knows at this point, It's either they being clueless af or lack of communication
We will never know. But beta told me they got someone who is on my page

The shaman dev must be doing tricks on the management's D if that's the case
tbh, I really like bursty playstyle of fury. Like the one now, I just feel like the tuning is what is making it not that good.

Extra sloppy
did they even exist in df
It's just funny that when it comes to Warrior, the brown class everything and every change is illegal but when it comes to other classes it's alright xd
Yeah a shaman pulls 30kk dps in 9 mob pack is fine
brotha we (outlaw )have asked for a softcap for sooo long, and no response either. we asked to be able to use haste, and we got a haste requirement, but haste is still useless stat. we all get bent over
Yep
kinda like this disc? XD

I agree with those statements, we just need a small bump on dam and tuning/rework of nodes.
Play style and performance in most content is nothing to cry about as is
The bait was low quality
huh?
what are you on abt?
outlaw didnt get bent over, cause we are 3 dps specs, aaah yes. great logic that is
isnt it nice knowing that you arent the only ones who get royally fucked?
Luckily warrior isn't fucked over. We always fine
You keep randomly moving the goalpost
Warrior has gotten FUCK ALL attention in years
U don't even know the recent history of the class
Lies, we get things. RA changed just now. TWW introduced some real dopamine burst.
We just get toys taken away, is all.
It's fucked
Like 3-4 ppl literally explained this to you and you still say you don't get it

RIP Unhinged cleave. He died too young
RIP big dam 
cause saying its a buff is a bandage isnt a great answer
Have u guys played the new RA? It kinda stinks...
its the only attention that matters
Xan literally said that ppl want something new after playing the same shit for 7 years, and that requires a rework
because every full rework makes the class overbearingly overpowered for months
Warrior is a literal patchwork of shitty changes over the past 2-3 years. Nothing short of spring cleaning will unfuck it
Some ppl want, some enjoy what is
True
The bottom row of fury might aswell nor exist lmao
If Fury is to be reworked, it got to be a good one. And I worry more about fucking up a good thing, than the grass on the other side
but why do a rework if you feel it doesnt need a rework? how would that be lack of attention? if blizzard actively decides that they dont need a rework, should they just still make what is in their mind a bad rework anyways?
We could need rework of some nodes and stuff - that is prob what most want.
Doubt ppl ask for us to become something new overall
If u asked in Arms whether Spiteful Serenity is worth taking, they'd spam you with 
They just changed titans torment and somehow made it worse for BOTH specs
Onslaught is Onslaught
TT gone is a blessing
slayer forces you into the BS node
It's another trash capstone added to our horrible capstones list
bro shaman has been op in m+ and raid for months and nothing has been done
Like what aside from a rework would solve this cluster fuck of a class
meanwhile fury is good for a raid because ads die quick and we get punished
Missed Count were running ele + enhance in TGP earlier today btw :^)

Only HC week matters, you know this. After that nerfs ripple from that for weeks for no reason
The thing is, not nerfing it is one thing but they've buffed Enhance in today's PTR build
Only stormbringer was buffed
Enhance is playing Stormbringer in live and they are buffing that hero talent
Who here wants to play Anger Management in it's current state?
is it still mountainthane in ptr, which is best for m+?
Think they're gonna be playing totemic next patch (which got like a 2% nerf)
AM Thane is really fun imo
I would be happy with that being the fury meta personally
I'm an AM shill though
I am playing it ATM, as Slayer. Works and is fun
Let me know how being neighbour's with the Augvoker on the damage meters is treating u
why is it anyways that slayer falls off in higher keys? just cause it is too bursty, and things live too long, and it doesnt have sustain?
Time will tell with the robot but the fact that Blizzard thinks that Enhance needs buffs as compensation is just beyond me
Real
however praying on augs downfall worked
i sure as hell did pray on their downfall
I mean numerical tuning and design changes are different, but I don't have a ton of confidence in them making AM Thane not beans numerically either
Also fwiw I've fucked on many a weekly 10 with AM thane
AM slayer will live and die if they buff BS back up, now with TT gone
Granted the average dps in a pug weekly 10 is highly questionable so that's not saying much
I'm not asking to be Thanos like Shaman, or lowkey busted like Spriest
Id like to bring great dmg cuz i sure as hell dont bring anything else
Just give me some hope, not design the most uninspired piece of shit tier in history
Our spec is fine tho, we do m raid and top 0.1% keys and are top tier in PvP
What more do you want
We always fine
Id like to not spend 1hr trying to find a group cuz i happen to be brown dps instead of pink or blue dps
Same, but that time is long gone
Fine means average and we are always average, pugs do not want average; they want the best ones like everyone does
I want Varyan Wrynn to come back from the dead
Not just pugs, you would want to stack best dps specs in your raid(bringing more than one) than average ones
Not a lukewarm designed class
Invited to keys 
Is that a tank on top of the meters, for st?
Yet still, the spec and class is fine. You can work around your problems by doing your own key, stay ahead of the curve or networking
No that's a WW monk
We are fine, really. It ain't grim
Again, fine ain't enougj
How much of the player base is warrior?
If you want more than fine, then warrior never will be it for you
Hes not wrong...
Why is that up to you
Its score and ilvl. Its really just abt starting early if you pug
Why does you settling for mediocrity dictate our desire for some love and care
Cause some ppl are happy just living a good life. They don't want more
Isnt that your opinion though?
link ur score funky
Warrior makes up a MASSIVE portion of the player base, but is still under served in comparison
Which makes it impossible to keep everyone happy
3.1k, you can rio me. Why you ask?
like unironically its as easy as changing %s in a sheet and fixing them each week its not even difficult to balance classes
saying oh no its fine is beyond cope
It is fine tho, all data point to it. You just want more
its not
That is a whole other can of worms
all data says
They dont want that. They want a rework. So a buff or a change to dmg, isnt what is wanted
Yeah no shit I want more. When other classes get to have their cake and eat it too, why can't I?
cope
Why should your opinion be the prevalent one?
This ^
If it was up to you, we'd all be WW monks
I'm fine with being mid af for 3 tiers if it means I got to go full on super saiyan in one tier
I have like 15 parses in my keys
But we can't even get that
In Legion?
HC week
Hello?
They didnt even allow us to reach ssj2 before they cut the grass underneat our feet 
fury wasnt better than frost before nerfs n higher keys lol
We are back to fine
Sry might just be tired, what sre you trying to say XD.
this boy is rage baiting
Noone beat us in HC week, we deleted packs too fast
no frost still did in 11s 12s
This be why forum was in uproar
Yet Shaman's saiyan is still going and by the looks of it, it will keep going in S2 aswell
I mean there r like 100 monks over 3k rio
XD
bc they timed boss adds to perfectly line up with furys cds lmao
You are top 100 
Im 30 rio off top 50 man
That is crazy. We arent many outlaws as well. But we got some cracked ones, so we still have tough competetion within top 25
Ill just buy a m+15 carry and be there...

lol
Idk if enough people have played yet, but next tier fury is looking downright horrific
Someone posted data here
PTR ain't that bad in m+, just don't look at meters
Both of brownies were horrible
How that tier even got past the concept board is beyond me
At least they realized how piss awful Arms was
TierSet functions, it ain't... Problematic... Just kinda meh. As always.
If details was removed, 90% of olayers would quit XD
But that's it's own can of worms
Well on the bright side if they are revisiting the tier set of other specs, might be gooe for a fury revisit 

And they will buff OF
This entire upcoming tier design stinks
And execute
Yup
Execute is doomed
The whole roll the dice, goblim theme is cool in theory
Seems like alot of em suck
In practice it puts me to slee0
That'd be fine if our base class didn't feel so bleh too
If there was a huge fun payoff, sure. Imagine if (4) was JACKPOT! Next execute does 1000% damage!!
Goblin theme would be if boosts will cost x2 gold ๐
Something wild and fun
But I guess they didn't want to limit fury to a hero talent like they did Arms
where the hell is bro ๐ฎing from
I still can't see that as anything but a :o face
Procs every time on 3 marks 
this should be the icon for blizzdesign
Rude, but you got a point

There's no way anyone would equate that cute emote with blizz design
It logically doesn't track
Beta never happens
I live in beta, waiting for TWW beta classic

Warrior is always good in beta, then they claw it back to some abomination by the time mythic week rolls around
Night bud

They need to buff T blast more. Wont be satisfied until I get this
tblast unironically does need a buff
its lower prio than RB on ST lmfao
that button needs god
what is blud yappin bout
TB being weak
rework the entire class. remove WW meat cleaver and let every ability passivley cleave
we should be into the Slams style of gameplay
where we literally hit our main target so hard it does aoe damage
That is how demolish should have worked. But alas, we WoW warriors. We tickle and prod, we dont do dam.
That is a dps job.
I miss WW hitting hard instead of hitting like a strongly worded letter
I don't care if ww hits hard. I want my spender and executes to pump
WW just needs good animation and sfx
Yeah the sfx feels bad lol
Animation is pretty solid
sound effect of fwom fwom fwom is like as good as it gets
Woosh woosh woosh is nice too
It is soothing
A familiar sound
Like rain
Or walking on snow
Sand under foot on the beach
Or the anger filled voice of an imperial dreadnaught
Go play a real game for that
Feel like we just got some supremacy going on in m+ rn
What ya mean, Mr Niko
Well, idk just seems like a decent chunk of dps specs arent close to enhance as an example.
or ele
Or ret
Or balance?
Your point my good sir?
had no point, just seems like there is a lot of dps, who kind of feel not that good atm. While some are thriving very much so.
I refer to the discussion you partook in previously. Don't fret, we are fine even now 1 hour later. Myesss
Oh yeah, idk. It was just an observation. I still dont want to play those classes, and it just is what it is
Dont worry, we have more fun playing the game. So we are the real winners
My good sir๐คต๐ฝโโ๏ธ
Yes ๐
Fr, i play with a friend who literally doesnt care
He is having a blast
Cause nothing you can do will change anything anyways
any idea why chamber guardian (tank add) in p2 spider woman just seems to have paper threat
like is it just flat tank issue or is that thing weird as shit
cuz twice in like 3 pulls now my tank swears he taunts it and is hitting it and i touch the add with 1 odyns and it instakills me
on 2nd plat it also seems to rush to the first person that reaches it (me)
but then idk it gets taunted and i assume its dandy and then i pop cds and die 1 second into bladestorm
im not sure how taunt works in this game but generally it just gives you top of the threat + slight buffer
that add set can also be rough going onto plat 2 becuase hes prob worried about spider aggro too
also for plat 2 id reccomend using your CDs early then part way through them using bladestorm to immune the wrest on melee side
U progging rn?
get off skyhold and focus up

if you wait too long to use them when everything is grouped it can be late for add set 1 in P3
plenty focused 
ya i use em as soon as spooders get close
takes like 3 sec after i charge to shield guy
or u jus mean right there
still bs the wrest
Imagine needing bs and not just gliding
imagine being a scalie
Couldnt be me aka the superior warrior
Aka the better looking warrior
Just pop ur cds on the bridge
At least roar avatar and recklessness
Bladestorm can be brought back in 30-40s
And use ur of on the adds on the last platform
Not sure if anyone is interest but I had +11 Mists w/ all direct damage gems in the ring and a +12 mists with damage/mastery/150%.
Mists +11: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GAfqhaZtwkyK8vb3?fight=1&type=damage-done
Mists+12:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GAfqhaZtwkyK8vb3?fight=1&type=damage-done
TL:DR Ring output was cut in half but overall damage went up 100k
linkge
had it for like 2 weeks..
saw p3 once surely boss will be getting exploded in t minus 5 minutes
(next week)
im a fish beleiver
hi. on ptr what talent we drop for sudden death when playing slayer?
@fleet sorrel 
which one is that
the crab?
yeah
idk i tried for like 30 mins with 3 hydro team
couldnt break horns
only thing i didnt try was kokomi
the missing piece
powerful kok
dont seem convinced any amount of geo dmg enough for golem guy without some giga cring cons...
perhaps dong lee meatball breaks all 3 pillars at once surely
i used navia i think
yea i think my itto is like way better than navia but perhaps i must succumb
make westerners poor
Any agree'ers
true

Fury gaming
How is prot looking like? Can I still be the raidbuff guy?
sir season 1 is about to end
love u too
What's a similar spec to fury in terms of burst aoe
ret is just bing chilling in the middle xD
who made this lmao
no more burst AoE they removing titans torment
was not me so the kitchen is definitely burnt
Why do you think I asked this lol
What is the point of fury, then?
Single target is mid to bad, sustained multitarget is target capped most of the time, burst aoe is getting nerfed, and all your cooldowns are going to desync constantly making your rotation a hot mess. And execute hits like a melting pool noodle.
(this is mostly me venting over the stuff I am seeing in ptr notes)
also also single minded fury is still being held back because they hate fun
you were doing so well then fell apart at the end
yeah yeah I like SMF, but the first part is fairly accurate (so far as I know)
It is what it is, hopefully they realise what they have done at some point
utility side is like, 2 stuns, immunity shatter, aoe health boost, and an aoe fear
Seems like it has no real identity if it loses the burst
the dev working on warrior did nothing to us for most of dragonflight and season 1 of tww, and now they seem to be changing things for the sake of changing things, without any real concrete plans aside from "the one thing we know they are good at is too good better nerf it and reckless abandon has been meta for to long"
i dont know where youre getting the idea we wont still be playing reckless abandon from
remodeling those two things is going to hurt the playstyle because they are not being compensated in other areas that feel noticeably different, even if the numbers work out the same in the end
yeah, I am not swapping to AM just because it would desync my CDs even more than they do now
Zorthas
maybe they thought that making RA a burst CD would compensate for titans torment getting taken out behind the shed to be executed, leaving the position vacant.
again youre insinuating RA is worse now
because now you are going to have to rely even harder on your CDs
And I still need CE, can you carry me?
no, its probably going to be the same, but its a big spike instead of a steady boost
the feel will be different, even if the end numbers are the same
but you cant translate that into AOE because the bloodbath dot does not apply to cleaved targets(probably deliberate)
so you havent been keeping up then
RA on ptr feels pretty good as thane at least, didnt try as slayer yet
bloodbaths been cleaving since last week
nice nice
I wish slayer just went all in on CD reduction for the spec, just everything go fast
doesnt mean much for m+ though since a minute long dot you have to maintain is worthless when mobs die in 30s
as of numbers i have right now, it is marginally ahead of live dps
neat
:O
Is thane still the better option for m+ on ptr?
@fickle bluff cleave is pretty neat for MT fights though
without the titans torment burst aoe, I assume thane will reign supreme for aoe going forward
just more consistent overall
lmao
@maiden copper

Thank you, I will get back to you
Fire mage is currently much higher than that on damage but otherwise it looks like that
Oh nevermind
Thought it was about PTR
u can never be clear enough ๐
In that case outlaw should be much higher than fury
Is it for m+ or raid?
It looks as valid as Max's "completely objective and 100% correct tier list"
So... good meme 
Pala in middle for utility is a crime XD
max would never lie to fit an agenda
oh wait.
If paladin is mid of dam, then warrior is really lost.
Being mid is all we had going for us 
Guys can we make mad queens mandate crit with reck?
ahhh thats unfortunate
It's fortunate
Because making class buffs affect external damage leads to quite degenerate gameplay at times
yeah man i remember draught of souls in nighthold
It'd also mean, that if Mandate did enough damage to warrant it, you'd hold Reck for 30 seconds to align it at 2 min
Although this is a rather extreme example, it wouldn't be unheard of
thank you for the insight x
2B-anezi very smart
I think objectively speaking, not as smart as Capymidi
banezi u have to find an astra-nomical pfp
now that u have her
HER vs HIM
@oblique trail !!!ยก11ยก
i have not i must EXPLODE
I just got a crazy relic in china gambler game
You should go get your gonster asap
show??
No
drinking it will also explode me
I wont because the rolls got ruined
anyone have a good fury build for mythic + on the PTR?
id encourage you to experiment on the ptr ๐
Standard live builds, then add to talents you want to tey
My fav so far is exe based, am slayer build. Does decent dam, and if I pretend OF does 3x dam, it is good DPS
Wonder when number tuning will hit tho, feel it is about time now
will get hit with the "we feel fury is in a good place" crap with minimal changes, willing to bet
Can you tell me which Talent you drop for SD?
Honestly Slayer plays really well with SD and dropping some RB stuff imo
I dropped wrath, just as s hotfix to get a feel. You could drop Titanic Rage.
Honestly, I recommend just having fun with it and play with talents yourself 
the numbers just don't like those choices, for now
Exe build Slayer is the Slayer
Likely what they wanted us to go for
But ye, exe too weak atm to carry that
(exe buffs when blizz)
pidgeonholing slayer into being exe reliant without exe doing fuck all
one of the possible choices for sure
๐
BatChest I love execute and bladestorm as fury
next week for sure they fix execute and sudden death for slayer
and totally make our capstones cool
absolutely
next week
zero doubt
I do find it kind of funny tho that execute has what...a 50% multiplier in pvp now
but apparently it's fine in pve


what utility does dk have 
grip and bres
oh and amz
dk has just about the same amount of utility as warrior does
multi person AMS and AMZ and Brez are pretty strong tho lol
It must be a warrior thing because I do not comprehend what Iโm seeing

Ahh I tried reading and found the โdamage & utilityโ texts
Tankyness is counted as utility in that
then warrior should be way higher
idk
i didnt make it
go complain to Zorthas
he just said warrior 0 util mid dam
We stun things once and a while
honeslty with the dk nerfs, dps war might be the tankiest dps?
i bet there are things you can do with intervene that nobody knows about because nobody plays it
Give us mass reflect 
are there people still pushing as slayer in keys ?
would probably cause a lot of degen shit
not something to want
<@&257983573498265600>

damn i always miss the scammers
Yellow man ban power would go hard
If people want to degen let them degen, people who dont have to degen dont need to degen.
Its not like interevene reflect would make any difference for 99% of players.
Yeee I say it all the time I want zero responsibility in key except damage
Is there any reason warriors still play slayer spec in keys? Isn't thane objectively better in any key above a 12?
Preference
Both are good
Problem with slayer felt like off cds you couldn't do any decent dmg, while with thane you can kinda get some decent numbers from clap procs to at least not feel like a dead weight
Sounds about right, slayer is more about burst and packs dying fast
Thane is more about sustained aoe
Yeah, I also thought when they buffed thane I wouldn't like the spec, after all losing ww felt weird for the class
But shit, thane is just fun seeing you do more constant dmg
Wait until you realize Thunderclap is basically a cosmetic whirlwind glyph when you are thane spec
I still struggle to get 2.1m dps on a nw key while a ret finishes with 2.26 no problems
Kinda feels bad
Slow tho, if no mage or rogue
I've had groups that didn't have slow and saved on the 2nd siege boss from jumping
At 638 ilvl. Could also be skill issue idk
what???? no?????!!!
tbf grip is really good
not even, just the fact dks have cr is already more of a reason to bring than a war
If you got a pumper / timer group going on higher keys you can go slayer in M+
but pug I always go thane
any reason why you'd go one instead of the other?

burst damage vs sustained. If you got a coordinated premade slayer can be useful if you are optimizing your burst
ah i see, makes sense yeah
i usually compare my warrior to the ones i see with my alt, and their dmg always lacks insanely in comparison in the same key level
That's why i was wondering
oi BRUV
engi res exists tho
engi rez is ok, but it's a pretty massive step back from most any real combat rez imo
It's not the same as a normal BR, but it can easily save a wipe, and then a key
ye, ofc
The only disparity really, is if you die to a knock ability, like on Siege last boss, and you get flung into the water or something else inaccessible
i also really like the thane surv with IV stam buff
has saved me couple times
plus not having to ever use execute
engi res this xpac kinda good honestly
its not the dogshit from bfa-df
i was shocked how fast it was
what's the difference? the cast time?
It's a pretty fast cast time (relative to old engi CRs), and I've yet to have it fail on me as well even at just r2
ah nice
Though I don't know what the chance of it failing is
provide proof of it failing
that's right you can't
Ranks are just for cast time
I believe
wtf hacker
R3 is really fast
Like normal bres fast just have to be melee
And I don't believe they have fail chance
They're straight up really good
This section is just what I assumed is a fail
Maybe idk
But ye just ping noobers, leap noobers corpse and ress
But there's legit 0 reason not to have Cables on any character that doesn't have a CR spell
Even on some of them it's arguably just good like DK where you could be stuck without RP
They're also dirt cheap
Idk how they are now
Start of Xpac R3 was pretty expensive for a consumable
Somewhat cheap
Oh ye
500g per use isn't terrible
That's nothing
I use r2 bc I'm a broke boy
You're not using that many
I think I've used like 5 of them all season?
trying to finish this season with 3.1k, would be happy 

my seasonal goal was 2750 but i dont think i will hit it
no one is inviting warrior to +10
i'm at the deadzone of 13s with only one 14 timed, it's the point where people that barely time a 12 gather
that's because you're 2700 bud
My 625 2.4k rogue gets into 10s ezpz 
difference between a more meta spec and a non meta spec, plus your main score being linked
no its cause warrior doesnt have combat rez or lust
Yeah I agree
cant get invited to +6s
can blizz pls fix this spec
yeah I agree Warrior sucks for keys right now please fix our spec
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Real and factual
i get invites to 14s no problem. try making sure your wowop.io score is good
I got 3.1k and I dont get invited, so I presume you will need around 3.2-3.3k score, or at least most to all 14s already done in time
Having minor debate with my RL, does heroic leap treat you like you're at the origin until it lands, or does your position update midleap for getting hit by shit
They dont invite me because im blue
and i have no ress
isnt that the usual experience @fickle bluff @warm crag
statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged
this is what m+ers have been demanding your respect for
yeah if you try and jump over certain mechs your get stopped
it updates your hitbox to the current ground u r over
thanks for backing me up then, gonna quote this
eg last boss necrotic wake, u get hit by the slow snow areas when u r sent below
discussion around carrying the seed in p3 ansurek for leaping the wave
when u leap over
top tip you wont get declined to groups if you dont sign up for any
People actually use that site?
its becoming a the new thing quickly, cause it tracks deaths and interupts and scores them across your last 15 keys
Ppl usually just look at your ingame shown score :v
score only shows so much
doesnt show how much you interupt or fail to aviodable mechs
warcraft logs
I checked mine on a hunter I have and it was 99.9 but I still don't get invited to 10s with it, have to run my own stone
i get it but its the new thing so
Fads gonna fad, I guess, fair
another thing people will use for invites now
I mostly think it's useless because people in pugs will automatically do much less dps usually
Well, you can get a lot of interrupt in when you do pugs at least
That's largely true, but playing badly will have a larger negative impact on your dps than pug routes will
It's not just the routes, pugs tend to pull smaller groups
Sure
But there are also 2600 people in 10s doing 750k overall
That's not a route issue
I pretty much just do 10s for vault Shruge
cba sitting in queue longer for score keys at this point
My point is, you cant get valid mass data from 10s. It is clustered with weekly keys, drunk keys, meme keys, booster keys
Doesn't that imply that WoWOP is irrelevant for 10s then
I presume it would be mostly irrelevant for 99% of content :P
worst wow website just dropped
Nowadays it just seems even for 10s people tend to artistically try to just go for Meta specs
It's so easy to get invites on some alts even with low scores
thats the problem with meta
Autistically not artist
Yeah, I just don't remember it being this bad even for non-competitive keys
every season it gets worse and worse imo
and even now that the player base is low due to season dragging out people would rather take a meta class than others
In before you have to be a nelf or dwarf even for 10s
raider.com best site
council of spongies can confirm this @solemn plover @fickle bluff @lost saffron
I use raider.com to its fullest potential
I have beaten blue sarkareth
I want my IP back, but it will never return. Dont do my misstake, never visit a website
How much gold for you?
20g

Hey all, coming back to fury after playing prot over a year, quick question that I'm probably thinking too hard on. I have the WA to track Bloodcraze. Am I supposed to prefer raging/crushing blow over bloodbath until the guarantee crit, or just press bloodbath as it procs?
tracking bloodcraze on its own isnt worth it
I was reading on the Wowhead guide and it was suggested, so I've started using it.
Just make sure you use both CB and BB before rampaging.
you will consume bloodbath every time so its not that important where in you fit it
The tracking is more to prio a 100% crit bt over a regular raging blow i believe.
So this WA really isn't necessary as a DPS gain? Bit of a headache to look at anyway.
is it bloodthirst crit, or bloodcraze, because they are different things
so its a crit tracker
This guy. I was using it to optimize spreading the dot in keys
So until it's ready to crit, I prefer crushing over bloodbath? that was my original question. Probably thinking too hard.
So if I have a proc of bloodbath that is not guaranteed to crit and a raging blow I'd still prefer bloodbath? That was my understanding.
yeah
Ok, thank you! This had my head spinning for a minute.






You are overthinking it, on ST ppl seem to say CB over BB, and on MT BB over CB - honestly, it doesnt matter, you send both either way in 99% cases


Btw, how did the Raid Testing end up. New RA feel good, or nah?
testing is happening rn

feels the same as it felt in shadowlands
s1?
i take this back
Fury feels like fury!?!?
seems fair
when will warrior finally explode
right now
no way
Any single minded fury enjoyers?
these are old her resources sire
i enjoy going 5% faster in 8 year old content yeah
Hello guys, I'm looking for some advices. I'm trying to play a Mountain thane Mythic+ regular build with Anger management and frenzied enrage. I tried that to have a more flat DPS (yes like earth). Do you see any other changes that would make this build better? (CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxghhZwywMzGMMjxwMMzssNzYmZWYmxMzwMsYbGmZMAAAQYMwGssY0YGQmFYxYB)
Drop Odyn's for Vicious Contempt
And change the point in titan's torment to berserker's torment probably
Idk if it's worth going into DoI, it might be
That sounds great. I'll try that. Thank you very much. ๐
can you bitter immunity bleeds?
no
They took so much away during DF beta cycle 
Was removed in the alpha/beta iirc
TWW beta cycle took away intervene spell reflect combo
To be fair, that was busted AF

can we have ignore pain back
no


arms doesnt even get it so why should fury
Cause Fury is just better
Copium
Truthium
I am fury player but we are not better in blizz side
We just that much better, that they gotta nerf us even when we are behind
it is what Fury life is all about

not worse either. warrior is just kinda... there
I respect the copium
No no we are there for the uhmm... The damage...err.. the utility... Hmmm.. the battleshout?... Surely the Rallying cry...
fuck this chungus class and feral druids
fury warriors are more angry
and worse otps
nah
pressing rampage reduces your RAGE which makes you less ANGRY and we are FURY warriors who want to be ANGRY all the time
dam
Hes spinner
cause he slammed
hes slammin
Ww 800k true and real
Did u ask hows he doing?
wait i didnt see the throw
Heโs probably first timing
no it has to be intentional
theres like 3 scenarios
1 he cooked up his own build and is a free thinking chad
2 he's on a friends account and doesnt know what buttons do
tbh, I'd like to see his build ๐
3 his button broke
4 so high that thought he specced arms
had the incident myself
The damage breakdown overall, looks like a classic AM one tho, BT is a bit low - but oh well
I think he just pumping and having fun, slamming and wrecking once a while
40 casts of odyns fury?
every hit counted
Friends don't let friends buy wow accounts
In this thread: lifetime warriors bully some poor dude who wanted to Spin-to-Win
it's him, the angry one, the one filled with all the rage.
dude leave me alone ๐
he has been using slam since lvl 10 and hasnt switched to rampage yet
Adding to the statistics so blizzard has to buff us
was just making a passing comment mb if it hurt you
A true scholar and gentleman
Wait, they buffed BT and RB, but not execute?
Nah, I am prob just dreaming, that cant be

@edgy widget im assuming these are post Raid testing changes you guys scooped up
idk what time they hit exactly since I've been busy all day, but they're new hotfixes yeah
hell yeah
Doubt that
nein
I must test these asap
TIME TO BE META BOYS
lmao no fury execute buff
honestly it doesnt really bother me that much
you sandbagged enough thank you king ๐ช
MASHALLAH WARRIOR BUFFS ๐คฒ
Banezi said that the warrior buffs are fake and photoshopped
๐จ mr president another warrior buff has hit the servers ๐จ
maga

SHUT THE FUCK UP
XD
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mods ban his ass
they're pretty juice, yeah
how the hell did fury dodge the execute buff?

