#fury

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smoky vale
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ask them for the reclear

eternal sundial
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i dont want to

smoky vale
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i miss you phil

eternal sundial
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remember i gave u the euw account

smoky vale
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yeah

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lay league when i wake up?

eternal sundial
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🫡

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i dont have raid tn so can do

smoky vale
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@lament otter also its hard to tell just looking at parses who is good

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idk

lament otter
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I know okayge

smoky vale
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all ik is dont die and do damage on first kill == good

lament otter
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first kill>parses

smoky vale
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im decent i believe

lament otter
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i think im decent too, just mechanically challenged

smoky vale
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here critique me

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night night i go

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5:40 am moment

lament otter
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i mean its only the kyveza one thats draggin you down

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youre otherwise fine

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name based on the toyota celica?

smoky vale
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do not look my debuffs during execute

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nope

lament otter
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-points

lament otter
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I dont know who that is

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anyways gn gio

smoky vale
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celica from fire emblem echoes: shadow of valentia

humble bramble
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is fury still the go to spec for m+ or are arms/fury so close that it doesnt matter ?

dense elbow
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Always go for personal preference. Fury is seen as the more M+ PuG friendly, due to the selfhealing and damage reduction. Arms got a bit more damage brought.
So it doesn't really matter, beyond what you enjoy the most

humble bramble
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Thank you

sinful spoke
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Reading comprehension devil is haunting you

worldly dust
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hi, when do you press rampage - when it falls of after trying to squeeze one rb more or you try not to lose enrage at all and press it before it falls?

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is it better to not lose enrage nad use it eralier or try to squeeze one global more? Or does rampage deals more dmg when u are enraged too so its not good to let enrage fall down

high eagle
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Void elf or Belf? 100% m+

sour frigate
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dwarf

worldly dust
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mkay

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thanks

sour frigate
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i mean i dont even see how it happens in default condition unless u have to do mechanic/intermission

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always do rotation and ure set

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overthinking usually = dps loss

tough terrace
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Hello, I need some help for a problem i have and i can't solve it.

worldly dust
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its always prio bt/rb over rampage

oblique trail
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The same goes for Odyn's Fury if you have Titanic Rage talented

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BT/BB however does not get buffed by its own Enrage

oblique trail
worldly dust
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oh

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so rampage is before non empowered bt and rb

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looks like im having problems with understanding prio lists xd

oblique trail
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Correct, there are exceptions when you're a bit more comfy, where if you've just used Rampage and CB after, you can then RB a few times to use up your stacks to build rage, then BB -> Ramp

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So
Ramp -> CB -> RB -> RB -> BB -> Ramp

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This is only for outside of CDs, and to make the rotation a bit more fluid, also not accounting for the current crit rate of BB based on your Bloodcraze stacks. If you have 95% crit chance already on BB, you just send that instead of using RBs

worldly dust
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yeah

oblique trail
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If inside of CDs, at least during Reck, you can just cycle Ramp -> CB -> BB -> Ramp repeat

worldly dust
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and when im in reck i click rampage as often as possible?

oblique trail
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No

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You always want to spend both your CB and BB charge before you Ramp again

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Even if this means you rage cap

worldly dust
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understood

oblique trail
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This is simply just something you accept playing RA

worldly dust
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and thats for single target, what about aoe?

oblique trail
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Basically the same

worldly dust
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mkay

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so its easier than i tought then

oblique trail
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There are target counts above 5 (not sure how many honestly) where you'd prio BB/BT ahead of CB/RB

worldly dust
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just aoe prioritizes bb and bt

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yeah

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cool

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i dont know why i always tempt to make it harder than it is 😐

oblique trail
clever belfry
sour frigate
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Rude.

covert blaze
hasty tree
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no mather what combination i simulate its a ST downgrade if i drop crafted weapon with ascenion for 2x duskthread. Are people doing that in favor of mythic+ or i just havnt found the right angle (cause they are also wearing taht in raid)

frank dawn
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I think ascension is always better on pure ST, but even in the raid not many fights are pure ST and this late in the season those still playing are more likely to optimize for m+/aoe

frigid flicker
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I notice that rampage rarely triggers bloodbath, on dummies

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is that normal?

smoky vale
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what do you mean

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are you on ptr

frigid flicker
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doesnt rampage empower bloothirst?

smoky vale
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and live

frigid flicker
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reckless?

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abandon?

eternal sundial
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Talent

frigid flicker
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well i have it, and sometimes, for a long time I dont get ´bloodbath after using rampage

smoky vale
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show your talents

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and are you on ptr or live

frigid flicker
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live

eternal sundial
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Ravager spends ur bb okayge

smoky vale
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^

frigid flicker
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I dont think so

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I think its after

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lemme check

smoky vale
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no

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ravager spends your bt

frigid flicker
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ah okay 🙂

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so when ravager is on I only wanna crushing blow?

smoky vale
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change spear for roar

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but same concept

frigid flicker
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I use a macreo

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i watched a very good m+ guy who said that you wanna use a macro on pull, and he didnt use roar manually i believe

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damn that is a short opener is well XD nice to see 🙂

sonic shoal
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Because it won't have Bloodbath for all ticks of Ravager so I doubt it works well

lavish pecan
sonic shoal
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Avatar and Reck are off gcd so you can use a skill with it, like Roar

lavish pecan
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Don't you use Ravager before Roar on the opener?

gilded pawn
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No you may lose bloodbath hits with it

minor egret
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Anyone know if you can leap with an essence on queen M?

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through the ring

summer crater
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Does arms currently have better performance for s2 mythic+?

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On ptr that is

gilded pawn
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No

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Arms tier is kinda bad rn

modest condor
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we dont know yet because things arent working properly

summer crater
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Ah

modest condor
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fury has at least 1 confirmed bug that's making it stronger than it's supposed to and 1 thing we're not sure if it's intended yet

summer crater
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I've just seen a lot more "noise" about arms which surprised me a bit

gilded pawn
modest condor
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which is which?

fast mural
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if there is noise about a spec its always cause its bad if you dont hear anything about a spec they are sandbagging

summer crater
fast mural
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that surprises me since fury is alot more popular than arms

summer crater
dense elbow
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No point testing Fury DPS atm, as they havent done the tuning pass on it yet. So cant say anything about performance

fast mural
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you think the arms 4p is gonna stay like this ?

worthy obsidian
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Where can I find talents for Raid for Fury/Arms PTR, tried googling and checking through warcraft logs (Can't copy talents from logs for some reason)

gilded pawn
gilded pawn
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It could just get tuned higher to be stronger out of execute

modest condor
gilded pawn
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Oh shi

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That’s kinda crazy

dense elbow
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Unhinged cleaving again, or is it just that the hits that go random that spreads it? If so, that sounds like it is working as intended :o

frank dawn
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The hits don’t cleave, only the dot does. And it hits all 4 extra targets

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Whatever bullshit code they did to make unhinged not cleave. Should just delete that code anyway =p

dense elbow
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=.= I wont even question how that happens, but yea - dat do sound very like a bug

tepid elk
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Hi all. When do you use the Treacherous Transmitter trinket during the opening?

lament otter
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i use it like 5 seconds before pull and do the task just before they pull

wind sentinel
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Smf fury is dead right?

dense elbow
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As alive as it always has been, perhaps even a bit more alive. Why?

wind sentinel
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No real reason I just like 1handers so I can strap a shield on to tank if need be

hardy bluff
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is worse than 2 handers

dense elbow
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It is the same DPS loss (ish) as before, so it is up to you to weigh those values

hardy bluff
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but it works

dense elbow
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I am doing a subpar build that is around the same loss as going SMF, I am doing just fine in 13-14 area DPS wise. So, as long you not doing content where you are holding team mates back - feel free to just do it

wind sentinel
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Just wishful thinking

clever path
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aint no way this game gave me seal of the poisoned pack from timewalking box 2 weeks in a row lol

hardy bluff
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huge

clever path
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not huge

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i still dont have transmitter or egg

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i already got queen ring a while back and it took forever for my main to get the ring

lament otter
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i had two myth track eggs in vault but no transmitter

clever path
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been clearing nerubar since release

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no transmitter

lament otter
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oof

clever path
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its real

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game gives your alts what your main wants

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my warrior has been running rat trinkets for the entirety of this tier

hardy bluff
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i also got no transmitter

lament otter
hardy bluff
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im just running skarm shard and sac

clever path
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im running mad queens and a delve trinket

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kek

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my parse would prob go up 2-3% from transmitter alone

lament otter
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running hero sac and myth mark

clever path
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sad part is queen ring isnt THAT good for fury

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the proc is ok but fights dont last long enough to really benefit from it and crit is our worst stat

hardy bluff
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pretty sure

clever path
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it simmed higher than brood ring

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i dunno how

sudden tusk
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Can't wait for it to be an arms teir now that all the rare loot is mastery focused

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:)

smoky vale
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kek

clever path
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i mean fury scales good with mastery

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think from early tier list in ptr fury was like A tier

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cannot say the same for dh zzz

dense elbow
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Fury was S tier silly AoE burst fun!
Now it is still waiting for that coming tuning pass peepoBlush

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Wouldnt mind Arms being the coming meta warrior build; as long Fury gets to do its own thing

frigid flicker
edgy oasis
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Hi all, im on Queen Mythic and i am not getting BS up for each webs during phase 1 because the Execute procs reducing BS CD are not coming often enough.

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i am considering i should take Sudden death ?

fickle bluff
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you shouldnt be getting BS for every tomb set

edgy oasis
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it has been possible

modest hollow
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what to do with 1050 gilded crests?

fickle bluff
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if youre lucky sure, but on mythic your raid should be immuning most tombs

hardy bluff
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or are you using it to immune them?

edgy oasis
fickle bluff
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theres 40s between tombs 1 and 2

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youre not going to consistently get that unless you play AM

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(no one should need breaking on set 1)

hardy bluff
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hes trying to pump details meter

sudden tusk
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They removed silken tombs from parsing

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The only real important set is set 3 which you should have bs back up

fickle bluff
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you can BS set 2 and 3 yeah theres a minute between them

hardy bluff
thick fossil
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~~The petty part of me can't wait till warrior is super meta, and I can spit on non-meta. ~~
No, fuck.
Fuck.

dense elbow
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That moment you know that we always been meta, just in secret

clever path
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Warrior is stuck in 2010 class design

gusty hazel
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Is this a decent dmg overview for a +12?
Feeling I'm scuffing something I just cant think of it. 1.8m overall with a few dumb deaths

eternal sundial
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What key

gusty hazel
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SV

clever belfry
oblique trail
clever belfry
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new banezi pfp

oblique trail
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for now™️

clever belfry
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newer banezi pfp soon??

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astra if u win???

oblique trail
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If I lose I will ignore the woman forever

clever belfry
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sad

flat river
sonic shoal
clever belfry
sonic shoal
junior gale
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Stellar Blade 2B goes pretty hard

edgy oasis
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queen mythic: When phase 2 starts and i am lifted to platform. I have ALL my CDs up. Should i use or hold untill I am on the next platform with all the adds?

clever belfry
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depends on your comp kinda

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you should likely use them on the 2nd platform, though

sudden tusk
summer crater
dense elbow
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Hm? Yeah, as they should. Overall Fury plays well and got good performance
Tho, that was talking about live, not PTR o7

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Are they happy with how things are on the PTR? Who knows - bugs and tuning aside, it is still same ol' fury

steady wharf
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any PTR talent builds floating around?

grizzled spade
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do you guys use slam?

clever belfry
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you use slam if you dont have improved WW specced yes

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it however doesnt really matter

grizzled spade
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ty

dense elbow
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If nothing else, when they happen, the UF procs on PTR with RA feels kinda good

charred estuary
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Not seeing it in the updates channel, when did bloodbath dot start cleaving

charred estuary
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feels like the dot is meatier on ST too

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might just be variance

summer quail
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it is. because it is now affected by avatar,mastery and can crit

opal sapphire
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most likely gonna be a good in raid angle again right

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regardless there has to be 1 warrior at least, and I dont see prot being good for raids ever tbf

thick fossil
dense elbow
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If we ask really nicely, think they can reduce the duration of UF to 2 sec, but increase the chance to 12%? gladge

pallid tinsel
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I am supposed to be testing raid tonight, is there a build that is recommended?

charred estuary
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idk what stroke induced decision making made them go from 20 to 6

covert blaze
dense elbow
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20% with new RA, we would be talking some real good bleed cleave dam :v

charred estuary
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for aoe at least I think you wouldnt feel the 20% buff

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what m+ pack is living 60s that you need 2 procs of UF

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maybe if you're doing like 15s but then you should just be playing thunderclap

dense elbow
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But you can clap and slap

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BB is just good dam - getting em for "free" would be big, no matter the situation. Well, less on gigapulls, but at that point you dont mention warrior either way

charred estuary
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idk it feels weird to me to be playing RA and mountain thane because both thunderblast and bloodbath are like -1 priority

dense elbow
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Fair, I can see that. For me it is simple as clap and slap

pallid tinsel
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So is mountain thane the play rn on ptr?

dense elbow
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I tried quite a bit of slayer on PTR, seems kinda weak - but, it is fun. So I recommend you try that out for M+ for a bit, makes you feel good

pallid tinsel
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Noted, for the raid?

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Are we going for spear and roar?

hardy bluff
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dont think much changed

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spear st and roar aoe

dense elbow
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Not a raider, but I expect Slayer to be best there. Doubt you do spear+roar, rather double up on spear or roar

pallid tinsel
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Thank you for the feedback

fluid shadow
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goldrinn server is blacklisted

frigid flicker
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what crafted wep is recommended?

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im really low gear so I dont think simming would matter

summer quail
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a 2h str one

frigid flicker
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ok, so it doesnt really matter I assume

dense elbow
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Sword is the coolest one

summer quail
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it does not. same dps

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i just chose the cheapest one

frigid flicker
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I see 🙂

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what abt enchantment, autthority of radiant power?

sour frigate
covert blaze
frigid flicker
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Huh

frigid flicker
covert blaze
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so?

dense elbow
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Depth is for ST, Radiant is for AoE focus

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Chose based on what your group needs the most

frigid flicker
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For m+?

dense elbow
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PuG?

frigid flicker
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Yesh

dense elbow
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Just go either or, but in general ST got more value till you go higher in the keyrange. On top, warrior is just kinda mediocre AoE, so why not double down on what we at least kinda 'meh' at.

frigid flicker
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this is just an alt, will be cruising around 12-13 so dont care much. I just like a bursty class

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But dephs is not better vause of cleave?

dense elbow
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God I wish Fury bursted dam sadge
Sounds like you want radiant or the mastery one

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Just play for what you enjoy, and optimise around that

frigid flicker
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I plan on playing alot of haste as well

dense elbow
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Want "big" AoE burst, radiant and/or the stat ones are the call

frigid flicker
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How is synergy with the dark dwarf? Forgot the full name

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That racial is insane

dense elbow
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No idea, I play Nelf, cause I am sane

frigid flicker
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I play belf. On main i play nelf though. But 7k mainstat

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Is insane

dense elbow
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7k wont help you on the floor

flat river
dense elbow
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Pftz

frigid flicker
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What so you mean?

flat river
dense elbow
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Cause we are very vocal about Night Elf being superior in here

bold bear
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If I'm using an on-use trinket that has a long cd (like 2.5 min) should I just use it off cooldown or save it to line up with 1.5 min cooldowns?

junior gale
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Nelf supremacy

dense elbow
flat river
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nah it's human > night elf > all other elfs > dwarfs > all other race

frigid flicker
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Why? Cause of mel? Doesnt seem like a fury thing

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I like nightelves but theyre not good for mogs

dense elbow
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Shadowmeld saves lives

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And looks fantastic, thank you very much!

frigid flicker
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So does skills

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And stoneform

flat river
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plate armor looks the best on humans

dense elbow
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Pftz, human look like trash

flat river
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u take that back >:(

junior gale
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the human models are complete ass

dense elbow
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Night Elf is like a forest, strong wild and unending in potential.

frigid flicker
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Belf and velf is kinda the only good mog race

sour frigate
junior gale
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meld op and nelf does front flips when I jump

flat river
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human best race for warrior

junior gale
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you cant do that on human

flat river
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u dont need front flips when u can get out of stuns

dense elbow
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You havent felt alive before you done 15 flips in a row

frigid flicker
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Have you done it?

dense elbow
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Yarp

frigid flicker
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My record is 6

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not that good

junior gale
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you cant even get out of stuns that matter with human racial tsk tsk

dense elbow
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Now I always feel dead, yearning for that lost moment of greatness

flat river
frigid flicker
dense elbow
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Feels like Fury Warrior life man

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Peeked in beta

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downhill till next expansion

frigid flicker
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Feel like the dark iron dwarf or whatever is called is hella insane

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And no racial should be that good

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Same goes for meld, and stoneform

dense elbow
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Protip: Just play what you think looks cool

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Ya will be happier that way

frigid flicker
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7k mainstat brotha

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For 8 sec

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Isnt that a full recklessness window?

dense elbow
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I will let you enjoy that floor PoV, while I sip my tea in the shadow

flat river
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u just don't have my drip

frigid flicker
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Im takin m+ here ahah

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Full set, doesnt count 😦

dense elbow
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Sure it does

willow cradle
dense elbow
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tho he looks silly, look at his silly frame

flat river
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they made full set because it looks together?

dense elbow
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^ he right you know

frigid flicker
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Yeah but then its not your mog, ya know

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And not your drip

dense elbow
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You cant make your own mog in WoW ._. it been done a 100 times before you

frigid flicker
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uuuhm

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You can

dense elbow
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If you dont argue changing out a shirt under your mog counts

frigid flicker
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For sure

flat river
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reaper right here

frigid flicker
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204,8 septillion combinations

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Weapon is drippy

flat river
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i farmed the mog so its mine

frigid flicker
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Is it 1% or 0,1%

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it is indeed in your possession, i just wouldnt classify it as your drip. Since you didnt make the combo. But if you enjoy it, that is all that matters

flat river
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nah u just jealous u dont have it

frigid flicker
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Lol

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Sure i am 😉 big time

wide forge
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should avatar and reck be bound together

cedar jolt
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who got me with a talent build for ptr

dense elbow
# wide forge should avatar and reck be bound together

Generally? No, but you can do it if you are ok with the optimization loss depending on build and situation.
I got reck, Ava and roar all on their own buttons: and a button with all 3 macroed together.
Do the best of both worlds

summer crater
fluid shadow
grizzled spade
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is 84% enraged uptime in a 12 SV Edna fight good or bad?

sour frigate
grizzled spade
sour frigate
fluid shadow
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i invited them

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...

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to my key

sour frigate
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still

fluid shadow
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i did leave

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we werent going anywhere with 0 interrupts

sour frigate
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man we timed a +15 with less

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not an issue xd

covert blaze
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chatting

sour frigate
opal zenith
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Behind even Aug in boss damage at the higher item levels lol

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God I hope that changes a bit in 11.1

warm crag
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fury's not brought for boss damage in this raid

opal zenith
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for sure, but being the bottom of the barrel at anything is never fun.

sinful spoke
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@compact knot time to lvl

compact knot
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i thought he was 80

sinful spoke
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this is faerlina main

compact knot
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ohh

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ic

compact knot
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minus DF season 3

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also we are a spec that goes pad instead of boss damage on a lot of the bosses which hurts us on boss damage

bleak bluff
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hey guys
just checking up on the current status of fury 11.1 ptr season 2.
Based on the videos uploaded by youtubers it seems we are in a worse state compared to season 1.
Am i seeing this right?! if so are blizzard going to make improvements to fury?! or warriors in general?!

sour frigate
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No

opal zenith
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It's probably a little worse than live. Will see if we get any tuning. OF becoming a semi dead talent hurts imo.

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Maybe if they make that BB bleed increase with mastery

young swan
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most of our capstones suck and we're undertuned but we arent even thru the 2nd week of ptr

opal zenith
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things could get better idk

young swan
opal zenith
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oh it's just not that strong lol.

young swan
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correct

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its pretty solid

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but not insane

compact knot
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i like it on aoe actually

opal zenith
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I suppose if you apply it to 20 mobs in a mega pull it would be a lot of damage. assuming it doesn't just keep trying to reapply to the same 4 lol

young swan
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yeah does good dam in aoe

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was like 8-9% or something

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but thats in perfect conditions

bleak bluff
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well nothing promising yet i see.

young swan
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I think in the m+ I did it was like 6%?

compact knot
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i think its promising

bleak bluff
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younguys think arms is any better compared to fury at the moment?!

compact knot
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just undertuned, odyns being fully dead is cringe though, dont even take it in aoe

young swan
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I dont think fury looks any better than it did in s1 thats for sure

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definitely looking worse

compact knot
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arms > fury for sure

bleak bluff
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ah even more depressing

opal zenith
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It just need better mastery scaling + a 25% straight buff. Or let it stack in single target.

young swan
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im confused

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it stacks in aoe

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and st

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currently anyways

opal zenith
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I havent tested it myself. I was under the impression it just refreshed the debuff

young swan
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no it stacks rhe duration infinitely

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so u can get like a 50s debuff

opal zenith
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ahh

young swan
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it prob doesnt need a buff

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it specifically that is

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we just need some aura tuning

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would be my opinion

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or make our capstones not complete dogshit

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both is also fine

bleak bluff
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odins fury is weak usable in live but is it weaker in ptr?!

opal zenith
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Id rather they did it through capstones. Having buttons that are fun to press is nice.

young swan
bleak bluff
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ah the torment

sour frigate
young swan
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OF's power is the same u just get 33% less damage or whatever the number is cause they removed the torment

bleak bluff
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understood thanks for the info

opal zenith
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But its currently kinda tuned assuming you would get that. I mean it got hit multiple times in tuning if I remember. Losing any more off OF and they're gonna have to drop it down to a 15 sec CD to keep me using it lol.

young swan
#

well they're just gonna have to buff it or we have another talent in the 3rd gate thats just unusable

opal zenith
#

Maybe if they took the target cap off OF specifically

compact knot
#

im fine with being 5 target

modest condor
opal zenith
#

true

modest condor
#

but buffing OF can happen at any time between now and season launch, not exactly high prio

#

first they need to figure out what they want to do with reckless abandon

young swan
#

its not like they can only work on 1 thing at a time

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theres no reason they couldnt have just thrown in a 50% buff or whatever this build

modest condor
#

no but buffing something before the rest of the spec works, then giving an aura buff, and then finding out they buffed it by too much is just unnecessary

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you saw what happened during the tww beta

bleak bluff
#

i dont understand why they are giving some classes too much attention, like shamans for example. some classes like rouge, warriors and even demon hunters are tossed to the sidelines and not taken care of

#

paladins are getting good attention but somehow avoiding all nerfs

sour frigate
#

they reworked dh and tuned rogues this season

winged island
#

Rogue is also not in need of any tuning

#

Outlaw maybe, but two other super solid specs

umbral cobalt
#

So it’s warriors turn now right … right ?

pulsar quest
#

I gotta say after ptr testing in keys and then raid this week

#

I felt super weak

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HOWEVER it is ptr

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Tuned to like 615 ilvl

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But I just didn’t quite feel like I was doing anything compared to some other classes

#

Also….the best in slots weapon is still bugged lol

brittle crow
#

guys im having problem

#

i wanna play psylocke but my burst fire aim is so garbage trash terrible

#

and i do better if i just play punisher or star lord

modest condor
#

those dont sound like warrior abilities

brittle crow
#

i play real video games now

modest condor
#

hello kitty?

brittle crow
#

only island adventure

#

not the others i cant afford em on og hardware

modest condor
#

ofcourse

fervent barn
#

bro can i turn off my character yelling every 3 sec

brittle crow
#

why would u want to

#

part of the warrior experience

fervent barn
#

its killing me

brittle crow
#

what race

fervent barn
#

female dracthyr visage form

brittle crow
#

idk if ive ever heard their voice tbh

#

is it not just human

fervent barn
#

pretty sure its the same as human yea

brittle crow
#

you havent experienced true vocals until you've played maghar orc prot warrior

#

~2 second long shout voiceline every time you press ignore pain or thunderclap

fervent barn
#

so is there actualy no way to turn it off

winter shoal
#

You can do it in leatrix plus I think

#

Yoda mad a vid on it a while back let me see if I can find it

faint oriole
#

I've noticed that some character races have their combat voices under the voice setting and not sound effects setting.

#

Like I have sound turned down but voice up and I only hear pandas yelling.

fervent barn
brittle crow
#

but i like psylocke 😔

sinful spoke
#

Psylocke is so cancer tho

#

U get her to 1hp

#

She stealth and oneshots u

#

Good character design

brittle crow
#

just know where shes going n hit her

#

stupid

sinful spoke
#

Bro

#

U do know u can go anywhere while stealth not just forward

#

I cant predict her every time

brittle crow
#

skill dif

sinful spoke
#

Imma just solo ult her next time

#

I played some iron fist today tho hes fun

#

I wish i had the sony digital skin though

fading sky
#

100%

#

Go gnoam female... hear that little girl yell

summer crater
undone flower
fading sky
#

Ots fab

dense elbow
#

You guys just bad, I top DPS in my keys clueless

keen void
#

whats fury stat priority, I was thinking Haste Mastery but a friend of mine was saying its Mastery Vers

undone flower
#

I listen the robot god

#

But I think yeah it told me mastery vers for my gems

keen void
#

what robot you talking about/

undone flower
#

Raidbot

opal sapphire
#

but also who in their right mind would think vers is over haste

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i mean it will be, when you hit a certain amount of haste

undone flower
#

I have the raid neck so I have a billion haste

summer crater
#

"I'm a girl I don't care about data"

undone flower
undone flower
unreal onyx
undone flower
#

Curious of some refrigerator and tanned bed facts

dense elbow
#

Btw, crit/mast works well in m+. Mast/Vers actually sims higher, but I never tried it. Haste/mast simed the same as haste/vers okayge
Prob why his friend said mast/vers

tardy lark
#

probably pretty average on the toxic spectrum as well

dense elbow
#

Didn't sim well for slayer

stable spoke
#

Since I used to be Arms in PvE, how's does this look with Fury?

#

Most of my gearing has been invested on PvP but I just wanna check if my PvE gear is still decent enough

smoky vale
#

its fine

stable spoke
dense elbow
#

depressedtomstats.gif

smoky vale
#

i miss tom

radiant plank
#

Fuck tom

smoky vale
#

rest in peace my beautiful

#

my peak

undone flower
frigid flicker
#

im curious, what is your guys GCD? like how long is it?

#

mine is 1,27 right now. and I ideally wanna get it down.

tardy lark
#

why?

frigid flicker
#

I just like it

#

used to playing with 0.8

tardy lark
#

all the power to you bro

#

im pretty sure GCD is hard capped at 1

frigid flicker
#

you can get it to 0,75

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I was told

#

but I dont plan on doing that. rn I am just playing with the hate talent, forgot the name. When im enraged I get 10% haste

fickle bluff
#

yeah this guy has an unhealthy obsession with the gcd

#

funkykittys long lost brother

frigid flicker
#

I just like spamming stuff XD

tardy lark
#

0.75 is correct and i am now informed

#

energy classes has a gcd of 1

#

is what i remembered i guess

frigid flicker
#

yep but outlaw can get it down to 0,8

radiant plank
#

me when

#

haste

tardy lark
#

RSI inbound

tardy lark
frigid flicker
#

But I dont really know where the sweetspot. Cause I also need other piss, and I assume the dmg buff talent is way better then the haste one

tardy lark
frigid flicker
#

well im not that geared, just doing 10s to get vault and crests and stuff. currently 605. and not 4 set XD. But i just wanna know what is decently good to craft, so I can have a base. and once I get some better gear simming will become relevant

radiant plank
#

Craft haste mastery

sudden tusk
#

ngl just craft haste mastery

radiant plank
#

equip high ilvl otherwise

frigid flicker
#

ok, have done that for wep 🙂

#

ill continue to do so.

radiant plank
#

Once you are 638 you can start resimming your crafted items

frigid flicker
#

are there specific peices we want for tierset?

frigid flicker
#

if that ever happens, im not good at getting gear

radiant plank
frigid flicker
#

first time having an alt

sudden tusk
#

off piece for fury is helm currently

radiant plank
#

it wont matter till 635+

#

and 5pc is very close in terms of damage in bis profile compared to 4pc + offpiece

frigid flicker
#

got a friend who was same ilvl as me 2 days ago, now he is 621

#

ok I see.

radiant plank
#

I think maxroll guide revvezz recommends to play 5p

frigid flicker
#

he isnt playing it

radiant plank
#

if u have time to play 20-30 keys at 8-12 range

frigid flicker
#

I think it was heroic raid or something

radiant plank
#

you can be geared

#

and then like buy 1 hc boost

frigid flicker
#

got exams rn XD

radiant plank
#

and then pug 4/8 mythic

frigid flicker
#

I can get into heroic

#

hopefully i can just get free tiersets, cause everyone has em by now

radiant plank
#

Theres still rats dw

frigid flicker
#

lol

#

would you join zergs? or just 20 man?

radiant plank
#

anything with 20+ players

frigid flicker
#

👌

radiant plank
#

sometimes u have to be the in the first few to join but

#

it takes like 20min to build grp

#

or just host your own

frigid flicker
#

I somehow got invited so silken, but I didnt get invited to a fresh one

#

got 5/8mythic on main currently, so hopefully that helps just a little.

hardy bluff
#

people just put in titles

tardy lark
#

ZERG just means "leader is undergeared and is looking for overqualified blasters to boost him"

#

or her, i dont discriminate

hardy bluff
#

but thats what you get if you create the group

#

i cba

tardy lark
#

Pugging is the bane of enjoyment in this game, so im glad i dont have to 99% of the time

eternal sundial
#

@tardy lark i try poe tn

#

Can i pretend d3 classes i liked are like poe classes

chrome plover
tardy lark
#

what d3 classes di you like

#

and wait, poe1 or 2

eternal sundial
#

But also wizard

tardy lark
#

and poe1 or 2

river reef
eternal sundial
#

Sorry for delay im eating rn

tardy lark
#

You can go berserker or slayer slams

#

Ice nova hierophant for caster or hexblast

#

your skill more determines your class than your actual class choice honestly @eternal sundial

#

I'd find some build Zizaran has a guide for, as his is pretty geared towards new players

warm crag
tardy lark
#

bro its archmage everything after it was buffed

warm crag
#

true

#

i logged into poe1 yday and got laughed at for the ring i p much beat the game with

tardy lark
#

it cant be that bad

warm crag
#

screenshotting it crashed my game

gleaming siren
#

Still sad PoE1 is dead

tardy lark
#

lvl 54

#

must be pretty bad

warm crag
#

i think we should do group ssf in necro settlers

gleaming siren
#

Take me back to Necro

warm crag
#

dont take me back

#

degen corpse crafting

tardy lark
#

nah miss me with necro

warm crag
#

20 minute point and click adventure to craft a perfect foil

chrome plover
#

i miss poe1

tardy lark
#

trading for the corpses giga sucked

gleaming siren
#

Was yoke

warm crag
#

spending 2 div on the correct foil base 1 week before they let u choose bases omega lol

tardy lark
#

farming when i did private league also sucked

gleaming siren
#

but making 6T1 items will never be as easy

tardy lark
#

recomb rise

#

but that process also kinda giga sucks

warm crag
#

die recomb die

chrome plover
#

recomb crafting is also cancer

#

yes

warm crag
#

(idk recombing might be fine but its so absurdly intransparent)

chrome plover
#

i spent hours and hours recomb crafting my dagger

#

utter misery

#

cost wise it was very efficient

gleaming siren
#

All the blocking you have to do

chrome plover
#

but holy fuck

tardy lark
#

getting the bases and then alt spamming, blocking and everything

#

tedious as fk

gleaming siren
#

the A, B, C, D, combine A&B into E, combine C&D into F shit

tardy lark
#

get resists at almost any cost during campaign

chrome plover
#

i made the first out of my 2 "final" bases really fast

#

and thought it wasnt so bad

#

then the 2nd one took me 20x as long

#

and i wanted to die the whole time

gleaming siren
#

Yea I mean

tardy lark
#

odds are always 33%

gleaming siren
#

Recombs are very efficient but you can miss so often

tardy lark
#

it either hits or not or bricks

gleaming siren
#

Necro was like, 90% chance to hit a good item if you set up your graves

#

Both not ideal

eternal sundial
chrome plover
#

i hate both

gleaming siren
#

But the funny triple T1 Armor/Ev prefix double T1 Resist + T1 Suppress chest I crafted right after the first buff

#

is gonna be a lasting memory

#

Legit just printed the PoB item

chrome plover
#

i played private league with like 5 friends in necro

frigid flicker
chrome plover
#

and spent the entirety just farming corpses for my wand

gleaming siren
tardy lark
#

i was looking to craft 20 suppress with fortify chest for LS this league, but nobody played so getting a T1 suppress frac body armor was impossible for less than 80 div lol

tardy lark
chrome plover
tardy lark
#

that sounds spicy

chrome plover
#

it was the perma vaal ls spam that crashed my game so i had to subscribe to geforce now to play

craggy sleet
#

anybody do some testing on ptr? seems like bloodbath is now cleaved by ww okayge

warm crag
#

suppress desperately needs a crafting tag

tardy lark
#

I kinda finished my Slayer LS (played warden last league) this time around and sort of quit after the build came together before i could reach the perma vaal LS thing

chrome plover
#

and i had that sublime vision jewel and keystone so i didnt take lightning damage

tardy lark
#

sort of wanted to try, but cba the cost of getting it going

chrome plover
#

so downside of doriyanis didnt exist

#

it was really nice

chrome plover
tardy lark
#

and that is kinda PoE in a nutshell

#

throw currency at downsides to your build bedge

warm crag
chrome plover
#

yeah my guy was like 2k divines

tardy lark
#

if charlie is less than 200 hours in poe2 he is certified noober

chrome plover
#

tried a lot of builds

warm crag
#

haha woke

tardy lark
#

charlie has more than 200 hours it seems

chrome plover
#

i do

#

took a small break but ive been levelling an infernalist

tardy lark
#

I did what i always end up doing

chrome plover
#

gonna try that wardloop meme before it gets nuked

warm crag
#

idk none of the classes seem interesting enough to warrant rolling another class

eternal sundial
#

Woke @chrome plover

tardy lark
#

beating all the bosses and then sort of quitting cause mapping perma isnt that fun

warm crag
#

the monk shenanigans maybe look funny

chrome plover
#

ive been poor as hell the whole time because i spent all my time levelling/making new builds

tardy lark
#

monk is more fun than ranger to me

warm crag
chrome plover
#

monk is the most fun so far for me

eternal sundial
chrome plover
warm crag
#

idk have u tried temporalis blink LA herald spam

#

(low entry cost)

chrome plover
#

nope i was close to 20d when temporalis was 20d

tardy lark
chrome plover
#

and then it went to 50d while i was at work

warm crag
#

i bought it for 70

#

:D

tardy lark
chrome plover
#

i didnt really enjoy "juicing" with towers

tardy lark
#

same

chrome plover
#

so i kinda just start a new character after playing for a bit

#

and never made much money

tardy lark
#

when my build beats ubers and it gets to giga juicing

#

i check out of that league

warm crag
#

wtf uncorrupted one with my roll goes for 180 now

#

can they find another dupe pls ..

chrome plover
tardy lark
#

i mean it should be

#

20 div enigma is craycray

warm crag
#

idk chase items should be a thing but they also should be attainable by humanoids

chrome plover
#

i think it's too crazy of an effect when it works with blink

warm crag
#

and no humanoid could ever generate enough wealth to get an original sin

river reef
chrome plover
warm crag
#

im sorry you had to find out that way

tardy lark
#

Idk i like super aspirational stuff like that

river reef
chrome plover
#

i bought osin on like first wednesday in settlers for 240d

#

now it's over 1k

#

diamond hands

warm crag
#

no one is alive to buy it anymore sorry

river reef
#

still wont ever lend me chaos to craft my items

tardy lark
#

chaos spam better than poe2 crafting

river reef
#

my first league was betrayal

chrome plover
chrome plover
river reef
#

🧢

#

"no im poor I just spent all my money to buy my new build" some fkin degenerate taunt totem build

frigid flicker
#

What was the softcap before the hard targetcap? 8? And was it whirlwind?

chrome plover
#

to be fair I rarely have liquid

warm crag
river reef
#

I still dont get the betrayal shit man. I just do dunes with legion and blast

tardy lark
#

i didnt hit endgame before TotA

warm crag
#

you used to move ppl around to where u wanted them for big shmoney

#

but they removed all that and u dont care anymore u just spam kalandra at max area level

river reef
#

yeah but i cant be fked to read a guide which guy needs to go where

tardy lark
warm crag
#

u dont need that anymore

#

theres literally no point

chrome plover
#

betrayayal kinda cringe now ngl

warm crag
#

best you can do is maybe gravicius div card gambling

river reef
#

harvest div card gambling critcake

warm crag
#

betrayal gameplay loop is literally get ppl to rank 3 and interrogate them

chrome plover
#

I miss veiled chaos (they were op)

warm crag
#

ya veiled chaos needs to return asap

tardy lark
#

yes plz

warm crag
#

actual nice intermediary crafting step between low end and extreme high end

chrome plover
#

my 4div near bis boots

#

take me back

tardy lark
#

need another affliciton league

river reef
chrome plover
fair star
#

whats rotation prio

potent plank
#

why is the ara kara trinket so good ?

#

sims arent that good !

olive hearth
#

cuz it is THE trinket

hardy bluff
#

strength good haste good

olive hearth
#

You can actually proc the trinket the whole time in keys and be buffed the whole time

#

so good

potent plank
#

but sims worse zhan other trinkets

hardy bluff
#

show

potent plank
#

one moment

#

okay my bad i fuckt up 1 point in the sim

#

now its better

#

haha

remote bobcat
#

Do we know about any bugs relating to procs or similar maybe? I just did kyveza hc where i parsed with like 1.86mil dps previously. This time I had 1.6mil. Same fight length, same overlap of spear and bladestorm, essentially identical fight but I did SIGNIFICANTLY less damage.

#

identical gear, consumes, everything

#

group size was larger this time

fickle bluff
#

you got lucky the first time and 1.6 sounds about normal

chrome plover
#

it's not a bug it's just variance

granite crown
#

Link logs?

remote bobcat
#

not in pure ST

glad coyote
#

what are the dps rankings on ptr so far?

chrome plover
#

yes it is

#

and in a real setting it could be way more based on a whole plethora of things

#

but yeah linking the logs would be helpful for figuring it out

devout totem
#

no monk buff

modest condor
#

it's not variance it's rng

remote bobcat
chrome plover
#

a quick sim i just did

chrome plover
#

but things out of your control whilst doing your rotation perfectly

#

according to my sim at least - is around 212k

hardy bluff
#

also crit exists

granite crown
#

Sims take crit into account

remote bobcat
#

im not running a lot of crit in ST tbf

modest condor
#

sims are an average over thousands of iterations

granite crown
modest condor
#

each individual iteration can have hundreds of thousands of dps difference

remote bobcat
modest condor
#

if on one kill i do 1.4mil dps and on another i do 1.6mil that doesnt mean something got buffed or nerfed or is bugged, it just means i got more or less lucky http://puu.sh/KmJxG/ed46072aec.png

remote bobcat
#

where here does it say the dps range

#

i just see the margin of error

radiant plank
#

Click on the

#

full HTML

#

rport

chrome plover
granite crown
radiant plank
#

Bigsmile

remote bobcat
radiant plank
#

Click on the
full HTML
rport

winter shoal
remote bobcat
#

OH

#

thanks brother

radiant plank
winter shoal
#

It's only there for quick sim innit

radiant plank
#

and topgear

winter shoal
#

Not for me sadeg maybe I don't pay them enough money

radiant plank
#

U have to select talents

#

so it will generate different profiles

remote bobcat
#

well thanks guys

#

I suppose we really are just unlucky sometimes

winter shoal
#

Think it was Banezi who was saying he got like top 20 on a single target fight in aoe spec just bc he got good rng that pull

#

wcyd

warm crag
hardy bluff
#

sometimes you just gotta send john blizzard an extra tenner to get more lucky

rose bay
#

Weird question, where do you guys bind your strafe key

oblique trail
#

A/D

grizzled spade
gleaming siren
#

A/D

eternal sundial
#

Ad

covert blaze
#

A/D

storm rune
#

Alternatively if you're the type of person who binds W to S and removes backpedal for more access to keybinds, you can use Z/C

#

So really it's AZ/DC

covert blaze
rose bay
#

gotcha ty! im gunna try binding it fer mythic queen gunna be a bit to retrain me brain

#

propbably need to move my stance key also then its on x if i do zc

eternal sundial
#

Jpc ass keybinds

remote bobcat
#

strafe > turn

eternal sundial
#

(x/z strafe, forward with mouse)

molten night
#

hows fury lookin for next season?

remote bobcat
#

some interactions are missing that we would really appreciate

molten night
#

i heard about the RA changes. so that sucks 😦

remote bobcat
#

for example bloodbath applies a dot but whirlwind cleaving bloodbath doesnt apply dot to all

#

hear me out

#

RA changes are good

rose bay
molten night
#

but its the WW not spreading dott?

#

thats bad?

rose bay
#

May have also broken the raidteams brain also

molten night
#

i mean yeah its bad but...

remote bobcat
#

imagine u fight council boss and you cant just whirlwind cleave your bloodbath dot

#

you have to tab target

#

💀

eternal sundial
#

Man once ur used to it youll gain so much damage holymoly

molten night
coarse nest
#

aint no way mans plays without strafe

rose bay
#

nadah

remote bobcat
rose bay
#

i took that off also

coarse nest
#

HUH

remote bobcat
#

so you just cant go left/right at all?

eternal sundial
#

Dogshit fight

rose bay
#

i just use my mouse

molten night
#

tyvm for the response

remote bobcat
rose bay
#

hold both mouce buttens hop sideways with spacebar

#

do it between gcds for even more fun!

remote bobcat
#

do you have

#

optimism

#

or why do you play like that

rose bay
#

?

remote bobcat
#

actively hurting yourself

rose bay
#

whats optimistic about it?

molten night
#

masachism i think he meant

remote bobcat
#

no

#

optimism

molten night
#

um

remote bobcat
#

you are optimistic that you get to move properly without failure

rose bay
#

nah im kinda pessimistic, i find it makes it easier to improve if im never happy with my preformance

remote bobcat
#

without accidentally looking away from the mob ur hitting?

rose bay
#

yeah!

#

just flick

remote bobcat
#

my guy

rose bay
#

i only fully turn if im runing out for webs

#

or acid bombs

remote bobcat
#

can you please bind strafe to A/D

#

please

rose bay
#

but yeah gunna try to figure out how to strafe! i think im set on zc

remote bobcat
#

please

rose bay
#

but i have kick and leap on those :c

remote bobcat
eternal sundial
#

Qe also popular

#

Depends on binds ig tbh

#

But if u play idk minecraft

remote bobcat
#

QE is more popular for attack spells

#

tbf

rose bay
#

q e is slow and aoe spell!

#

ww on e

#

q fer hamstring

eternal sundial
#

Q is sks E is ww

remote bobcat
#

HAMSTRING?