fury

[smoky vale]

yeah

vc is giga

[surreal token]

My bad I meant Reckless Abandon

Talenting into RA encourages going further into Unbrirdled and Depths

[oblique trail]

Sure, it should be the case

But it's simply not

The capstones for AM/RA are just not good

They haven't been in all of TWW

I've used DoI on Broodtwister only to make Reck CDR more consistent, but that's it

[surreal token]

Yeah, I don't see enough procs from UF to make it worthwhile

Man, these hero talents kinda suck

forcing us into a specific talent is kind of annoying

and now they made talenting into SD mandatory as well

you took Frenzier Enrage over Powerful? How come?

[oblique trail]

Because from personal experience, the choice doesn't really matter

Powerful is technically better however for AoE in theory

This hasn't stopped me though from parsing very well in raid, nor doing competent damage in keys (I don't do above +10s so take that as you will)

[surreal token]

The extended enrage is nice for me during MT AOE opener

I already cut it close w/ enrage about to run out

in order to pop CDs > Thunderclap > RB > Rampage

I wonder if the increased haste is enough to make up for it

[oblique trail]

Shrug haven't really had much issue with either as Thane, but I also don't do keys anymore so I don't even remember the proper CD opener

[summer quail]

More haste= faster globals. Enrage is no problem whether powerful or frenzied

[sinful spoke]

im locked into yo momma

[edgy widget]

you can, and probably should, turn those off by reducing Spell Alert Opacity to 0 in the options

[winter shoal]

note that this fucks you if you play fire mage

[edgy widget]

easy, just don't play Fire Mage

[clever path]

I will say with the changes they are making they really need to do a capstone redo for the fury tree

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fail-frisbee-gif-24192005

[edgy widget]

RA changes actually make DoI/UF better

[clever path]

Oh? That makes me happy honestly the capstones have just been so bleh all xpac

Good to see them being better at least

[summer quail]

DoI prob pretty decent tbh. idk about UF, procrate still very low.

[smoky vale]

20% proc rate to 6%

xd

[frank dawn]

I like DoI with AM, both UF/DoI feel pretty dead to me otherwise atm

like is maybe a strong word, but it feels like a reasonable pick with AM at least lol

[smoky vale]

only reason to play doi with am was brood consistency

otherwise its dead talent

you gain more from going into vc

[frank dawn]

yeah VC is good no matter what

[summer quail]

with new RA i think DoI will be good enough

[frank dawn]

yeah possibly, or at least good enough that if you want to take it it's going to be fine for 98% of players

[summer quail]

10% would prob make it good, 20% was too much before and 20% would be even stronger with new RA

[frank dawn]

yeah 20% needed to change

I think either 8-10% would be fine, doesn't need to go above 10 tho

[smoky vale]

i mean

[summer quail]

it was also on onslaught before

[smoky vale]

what was the point of making it 6%

[summer quail]

on onslaught and rampage*

[smoky vale]

vs just removing it

[frank dawn]

just typical blizzard pendulum tuning

idk

[summer quail]

well if they removed it they would need to put a new talent in its place

[clever path]

I mean after an entire xpac of those talents never being touched should have made them change them

But they didn’t

[frank dawn]

well we used UF all of DF, so it's only been one season in that case

but yeah DoI been dead for long time

lol

[clever path]

Yeah I just wish blizzard was more proactive in dealing with dead talents. Like even small tweaks to show they see that it’s not being used

Like niche talents are fine but entirely dead ones is a bad time

[frank dawn]

yeah it doesn't really make sense to me how talents, especially ones in high profile sections of a tree, just stay worthless for years lol

[summer quail]

if you want to talk about truly dead talents then there's storm of steel

[frank dawn]

[clever path]

Man I feel like odyns is gonna become dead this next tier. Sadge times. Wish they would have brought s3 tier into the talent tree from DF was fun

[summer quail]

can't imagine them not buffing odyns

[frank dawn]

yeah if anything I feel like you can count on odyns getting a number buff

it might still be bad, but...ya know

[clever path]

I just hope they tweak our overall cause man if they don’t

[summer quail]

they can buff it by quite a bit, it no longer grants 4 seconds of avatar. no longer a free cast from avatar

[clever path]

Bad bad times

[summer quail]

the 4 seconds avatar was pretty big for slayer specifically

[frank dawn]

yeah even without the Bladestorm considerations, that was a 20% damage boost on your off cycle Odyn's

and kept you from fucking it up somehow for your main cycle odyn's lol

[summer quail]

yup, so they can buff it by alooot

[frank dawn]

agreed

[clever path]

I’d like to see our rotational stuff get buffed, but I’ll have to see how numbers turn out with the changes and tier and such

[frank dawn]

You can recreate the Odyn/Avatar cycle by speccing AM/Zerker torment - which is still cool

but OF still down bad atm

[summer quail]

2 of the cantrip weapons stack the dot btw

here's tooltip

[clever path]

Isn’t there another cantrip we wanna use though? For big side stat?

[summer quail]

yea most likely. tbf i doubt it's intended that we can use 2 of these anyway

[winter shoal]

Are their dots capped independently of one another

Or does it just stack to 25 faster

[summer quail]

stacks to 25 faster and does double the damage

[winter shoal]

Oh so best of both worlds then

But yeah doesn't seem likely to stay I fear

[summer quail]

2 weapons(1 stack)

1 weapon(1 stack)

[hidden kite]

Is warrior still trash

[sudden tusk]

need bug fix

then need godf

(arms is prob fine rn) I just hope fury is okay

need to try out some more AM thane, but it dont feel very good losing RA

[open cave]

CITRINE

[fading sky]

Arms is worse my man

[crisp pond]

arms is better in raid right ?

[fading sky]

No

Fury is vastly sup

If u are proggin at least

[crisp pond]

why does Blizzard hates arms ?

[fading sky]

Arms is ok/good

Its just fury is better, at add control and shit

So id say if ya guild has loads od highlvl padders play arms and slap

[hardy bluff]

arms is totally playable

fights are just better for fury

[clever path]

I really wish blizzard would give warrior a revamp. A lot of the class and spec designs feel clunky af and like they didn’t really know what to do with it

At least revamp our capstones or something

[clever belfry]

no! hope that helped

[clever path]

I mean that’s been blizzs response since legion lol “nothing new for warrior! Only old designs!”

[clever belfry]

👍 hope that helped

[hardy bluff]

i mean our class tree is getting some help

[clever path]

I mean the only thing that’ll help at this point is a stiff drink

[clever path]

Help is very very reliant on context when it comes to this. I feel like it’ll just show the weaknesses that our base kit has even worse than it does now. But again that’s with current numbers. We still have ample time for them to rebalance stuff

[hardy bluff]

okay do you want a rework or a aura buff? because you kinda want both here

[crisp pond]

i want both

[hardy bluff]

balancing will happen

[crisp pond]

give us the dk treatment

[clever path]

I want a rework that actually works not just singular talent Changes. Aura buffs will always happen that’s just balancing

I mean for all we know they could buff our base rotational stuff to the point we don’t even notice not having RA as it is now

[fiery blaze]

do i cast thunderclap on cd in aoe?

or when do i press it

wowhead doesnt mention it

[fickle bluff]

are you mountain thane

[fiery blaze]

yea

[fickle bluff]

its used as a whirlwind replacement, just to generate whirlwind stacks and as a filler

[fiery blaze]

ah okee, ty

[floral oak]

This poor fella don't have mythic Queens ring, but I do have a hero tier one and honestly feel like Thunderlord's Cracking Citrine and Queens ring is bis for single target raid and thane m+

Simc isn't always in favor regarding thane, but talents are shifting for VC anyway, so what is a 3k loss compared too Writhing Ringworm anyway.

Only comes from my own testing; a HC boost run and Thane M+.
ID locked until next week, but will try it in mythic 4/8M as well.

Tested 626 Queens, 626 Ringworm, and 639 Circle of Bone

Hands down highest logs I have achieved yet

[eternal sundial]

Wha

[sullen dove]

swapping 1 ring doesn’t suddenly improve your parse by 20% or whatever the jump is

your overall gear is better/your kill time was better/your cd usage or rotation was better/group members did less aoe maybe letting you do more

100 other way more impactful factors

But for me regardless of whether or not other rings are better than a heroic ansurek ring (which they are) a random shitty dmg proc versus like 3k more dps of just raw stats is just always going to be better because the stats also apply to aoe

Poison dmg effect is like .5% of your overall dmg or something in single target it’s meaningless

Thunder lord gem on circlet should/will eventually be/is already better than the only other gem youd viably choose in that slot for single target only tho so that’s not a wrong conclusion

[floral oak]

1.28%

[sullen dove]

what parse was this log for that, maybe don’t remember precise average % it contributes but it’s also possible your other damage is slightly lower by comparison which could bump it up

I think I’ve gotten around 1% so not like outlandish I guess for that to be the case

[floral oak]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/fvmz1t7DPKpLGACg?fight=29&type=damage-done&source=165

[sullen dove]

but number aside the point was it’s super small and if a 636/9 ring sims higher it just is better

not to mention how much more the stats matter for aoe

nice number tho epic gaming unleashed

but yea like for just single target fights if the loss is that minimal it’d be fine to keep it and potentially rng some more crits cuz of how fat the crit on it is tho sims usually take the avg performance into account

but better/more stats tend to be just way more consistent in aoe

[floral oak]

Differently felt less good on bosses other than Ulgrax, Sikran, and Ky'veza

[eternal sundial]

Dare I say

You have a tiny sample size so this isnt very exact data

[floral oak]

That is how curiosity works. I shared my opinion and anyone with similar level of curiosity can try it out too make a "bigger" sample size

[eternal sundial]

I mean unfortunately most dps questions can be simmed

And that's what id recommend here

m+ i think feelcraft is ok

[slim coral]

Queen ring isn’t even BiS anymore too

[floral oak]

Already did. DPS increase on Slayer Frenzied, Slayer Powerful Enrage, Slayer Champion Spear, and 3k loss on Thane 2 VC M+

[floral oak]

That is why I shared my findings, duh

[slim coral]

I think it’s stil BiS for arms but I can’t remember

[thick fossil]

Man, fotm is beyond wild these days.

[sullen cloak]

Hi guys, been running LFR with my main for Nerubar FInery each week which means I can get the 14 to upgrade every 2 weeks

I missed LFR last week and I am short to get buff this week.

Is there any way to get more FInery?

I pugged some normal but none droped

[summer quail]

run lfr on an alt that has never done it before

[trim hound]

^ that, did 1 lfr on my fresh alt a while ago. Got around 50 finery

[sullen cloak]

I don't have an alt....is that the only option?

[junior gale]

Yes use an alt to run the raid in lfr and because of the catch up mechanic that alt is gonna get like 60 finery from that one run and you just send that shit to your main.

[vestal owl]

Hey guys, im looking for a ravager weakaura. A bar with the individual "ticks" of damage marked. Does something like this exist? i cant find what im looking for on wago.io

[radiant plank]

not a bar but https://wago.io/PLpo2nwMT

[fickle bluff]

you can turn it into a bar pretty easily

[covert blaze]

I tried and i failed 😔

[fickle bluff]

its like 3 clicks

just copy trigger settings and paste onto a bar

[radiant plank]

okay mr wa expert

[clever belfry]

or just press convert to progress bar

[fickle bluff]

@covert blaze turbo skill issue ig gg

[clever belfry]

(idk if it works with this one ill be real)

[fickle bluff]

( surely)

[clever belfry]

i just made a bar myself that works off of ravager buff timer and some % based tickmarks

Cause for bladestorm i frankly dont care 👍

[robust basin]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2oyv3KsPv2dwPeiuUrSpj9

[covert blaze]

bro this shit is hasted

it has custom code

[proud furnace]

did an HC clear for the vault gems... boy fury is crap... 1.8M on sikran and kiveza, parsed 98. The shamans meanwhile did 2.7M

[narrow narwhal]

Our niche right now is burst aoe

[eternal sundial]

I mean if u do an hc boost and kill boss in 50 seconds

Youll still do 2 mil

[molten night]

all classes are crap compared to shamans atm.

[proud furnace]

i also main enh shaman and retri pala, all 3 at 639, war feels like total garbage

sadge

[marble schooner]

finally more than 2m overall

[molten night]

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-15313749163340250467

[frank dawn]

your songs will echo in the halls of our fathers

[dense elbow]

Gz on goalpost achievement! 2 mill realtime next! You can do it!

[indigo arch]

I swear this spec is so fun until there's a ret in the party

fury still paying for tww prepatch and heroic week

[summer quail]

it's still fun then as well, you just realize how weak fury is comparatively. it's even worse with an enhance

[indigo arch]

I just don't get their thought process

no util, middling dam

Didn't feel that way as much in shadowlands or bfa, or legion honestly

[summer quail]

tbf i personally do not want the utility. i just want to do damage(no responsibility)

[indigo arch]

same

they had the right idea when tww prepatch was out

so many rets crying in party chat about it

no util should= big dam

[coarse nest]

real

[indigo arch]

they need to stop tuning around a prepatch lmao

[coarse nest]

give me double damage

and zero utility 😄

[indigo arch]

let alone around week 1 or 2 of first heroic raid

[frank dawn]

the raid was just designed stupidly

[indigo arch]

but hey at least I can outdps the rets on bosses

[coarse nest]

fury needed to be rained in some, it was extremely powerful in this raid becuase all the fights have burst aoe

[summer quail]

tww prepatch we were ungodly broken but that was because of tiersets. we did not get nerfed because of prepatch, we got nerfed for initial heroic week. we just got nerfed too much

[frank dawn]

yo dawg here's little shit adds that constantly spawn on half the fights that line up exactly with fury cooldowns

oh uh...oops, guess we fucked up dawg

here's some fury nerfs

[coarse nest]

thats what it was too

[simple frigate]

do you guys use hamstring a lot in pve? i havent had to use it yet

[indigo arch]

meanwhile ret with 30s burst windows:

[coarse nest]

I cleave hamstring onto adds sometimes yeah

its negligible

[indigo arch]

I hamstring if something is really fucked like tank for some reason being near arakara first boss add fixates or something

[coarse nest]

you could not bind it if thats why youre asking

[simple frigate]

wait what am i saying, hamstring is only 10% more slow than thunderclap

[coarse nest]

but it is a nice to have some times

[oblique trail]

Sometimes you play Slayer

[indigo arch]

Clearly mountain thane should get blood and thunder bleeds from arms

gg fury overall dam saved

[simple frigate]

lol

[oblique trail]

It's still fine to have Hamstring bound on a bind that's not often used, in case you play Slayer and need the slow

[coarse nest]

my hamstring is on scrollwheel back

[summer quail]

i would take that, i kinda like bleeds on fury and hate it on arms(prob minority opinion there)

[coarse nest]

xD

[indigo arch]

Speaking of slayer where the hell have slayer m+ buffs been at

thane is neat but kinda wanted to bladestorm again

[simple frigate]

i cant believe wow still wants us to press rend in 2025, they gotta give up and remove that ability

[indigo arch]

fury hasn't had bladestorm in years

I miss spin

[coarse nest]

it does now

you can still play slayer in keys

thane is just better in high keys

[indigo arch]

Yea and watch those rets etc just do more dam than they already do

spec needs a glowup on the level of s1 bfa to s2 bfa

[limber oar]

wish Onslaught was a talent we coudl take

[oblique trail]

It's right there

[molten night]

which enrage do we take frenzied or powerful?

[oblique trail]

Depends on the context, technically Powerful is better for AoE

But from personal experience, doesn't matter

[molten night]

kk

[coarse nest]

I really just like the feel of FE

[molten night]

was going to say the same thing.

so fast 😄

[frank dawn]

FE 4ever

[gloomy zenith]

Heyy 🙂 Whats your thougths about fury in 11.1 How strong he is in raid and m+? Is he better in S1 or still on same viable place?

[modest condor]

you're a couple of months too early with that question

[coarse nest]

it will have some abilites and do some damage

probably viable

[hardy bluff]

it will be alright

[gloomy zenith]

And which skill the most guys on ptr are playing?

[hardy bluff]

rampage usually

[gloomy zenith]

no sorry for miscommunication mean the whole talent tree xD

[hardy bluff]

pretty much the same

[mellow bloom]

i thought youre nostradamus

[gloomy zenith]

okay thx

[dense elbow]

The pretty safe bet is: we will be fine, decent, ok, mid

Tho, fun and prob with 1 or 2 raid encounters we good/great at

M+ will be the same fine/ok/can do weekly

[proud furnace]

prob mid/low

doable but not meta fotm

[indigo arch]

Going off s1 dogshit compared to enh/ret

[hardy bluff]

enh yea

ret not really

[indigo arch]

Ret yes really, more dam and utility for everything applicable

[hardy bluff]

if you say so

[slim coral]

It's that time of the year again boys

This is just a joke btw

[summer quail]

gonna spread this tierlist around. factual list

[slim coral]

I did not make it so feel free lol

[summer quail]

i assumed not. if a warrior made it, it would say "dogshit" or something like that instead of "barkbark"

[slim coral]

It's Petkos

It showed up on my rec so I thought it was funny

[thorny peak]

cmon were good.....looks at my own logs...... hhmm maybe i am trash

[edgy oasis]

My build on queen Mythic - if i use powerful i dont get BS up every web. its like 2-3secs off. Frenzie gives me it everytime.

Which ability is reducing the cooldown with haste?

[modest condor]

if you hover over an ability, the ones that have a cooldown reduced by haste with show the cooldown in green

or do you mean what causes bladestorm to be reduced faster with more haste?

[hardy bluff]

spell reflect also works on webs btw

[edgy oasis]

yes, but i prefer to pad off my web xD

[edgy oasis]

yes. and i think it is execute....

[hardy bluff]

maybe its just my comp but theres like 1 web thats not insta broken for me

[modest condor]

more haste = more slayer strikes procs = more bs cdr

[junior gale]

imagine having a raid grp that doesnt have everyone breaking their own webs everytime

couldnt be me

[edgy oasis]

weve aug and couple of DH 🙂

[edgy oasis]

Unrelenting assaults

[modest condor]

yes, getting more slayers strikes procs means you can consume them more often to trigger the cdr from unrelenting assaults

[meager gyro]

Yo havoc st could be pretty good. But it’s kind of a shitshow

So between warrior and havoc as my go tos, I’m just cancel sub and play midnight. I have 80 games in queue that I haven’t touched

[hardy bluff]

have fun

thanks for sharing?

[meager gyro]

No

Wow combat had been keeping me from games. I’m addicted to the combat. I need this shut

[iron portal]

Strange

[lament otter]

What ST dps are you guys simming on 5mins? I'm hitting 1.5m ish and it feels quite low

[compact knot]

637 and like 1.57m, my friends 638 ele Sims at like 1.75m so yeah we sim a little low

Uhdk is like 1.7m I think too, hunter specs also high

[hardy bluff]

sims are to compare your items not to compare yourself to other classes

[lament otter]

Formulated myself wrong. It feels low when comparing it to other warriors when looking at others logs on some fights, but I suppose thats not the right way to compare either

[hardy bluff]

yea remember in raid you get like 15% buff

[lament otter]

Right

16% actually 🤓

[hardy bluff]

15.75 or some shit actually 🤓

[compact knot]

Sims takes abunch of iterations and spits out the average, some of those iterations can be very high + the 16% damage buff

But nobody plays to the level the sim does so that doesn't really matter

[sinful spoke]

classic bazed drama farming

[hardy bluff]

🎣

[sinful spoke]

chat whas the catchup for the ring on alts

[oblique trail]

kill rares

[sinful spoke]

:mhm:

[dense elbow]

1.1m
Dont worry, you doin' fine o7

[sinful spoke]

damn cant use emotes

ty weebezi

[oblique trail]

On weekly resets, you should get a quest you might've done already on your main, to get that weeks ilvl upgrade

At least I did on my mage, where I had to do the 3 chest in the water quest

[sinful spoke]

yeah i know on main just didnt know on alt

[cursive pivot]

anyone have a zek'fir build? i can't seem to have enough interupts. or is it just a lost cause?

[lament otter]

Should probably mention that I’m at 639ilvl. Hence why I think it should be higher than 1.5m, but I honestly don’t know

[dense elbow]

I am 639, dont worry

[sinful spoke]

1.5m as fury seems perfectly fine st

[hardy bluff]

you only kick the heal

[sinful spoke]

anything higher depends on lower kill times

[hardy bluff]

as slayer you can get rid of the dot with charge

[dense elbow]

We talking sims, tho, not actual DPS

[cursive pivot]

ok, thank you

🙂

[slim coral]

Fury do be down bad at the moment though

But we have a month so the hopium is high!

[sinful spoke]

yeah okay buddy

[dense elbow]

TT gone, all is on the up'n'up!

[sinful spoke]

we both know how this is gonna go

[slim coral]

The devs won’t let one of the only classes that function down

[sinful spoke]

function?

warrior?

💀

[slim coral]

Yeah it functions that’s why they won’t touch it

[sinful spoke]

whats the current ring ilvl

[slim coral]

652 I think

might be 3 more or less

[junior gale]

unfortunatly thats the truth we function fine so were low prio

[hardy bluff]

652 is max currently

[slim coral]

yeah we need to pick the most nonfunctioning build

so we get fixed kekw

[hardy bluff]

sandbag first week

[junior gale]

got one for arms already if everyone switches to this well get changes I swear

[sinful spoke]

brother

wtf is ths

[slim coral]

that's too many capstones

[hardy bluff]

no sks

[slim coral]

gotta go less

[hardy bluff]

based

[sinful spoke]

theyre gonna give us more 3p nodes after seing that build

[junior gale]

Dont mind me guys just leaking the 11.1 build

[dense elbow]

Hiding it in Fury as well, big brain

[junior gale]

massive

[winter shoal]

Some real interesting choices in here

[junior gale]

Max dps build ive ran the sims myself

trust

spell reflect also worst abillity in the game thats why its not taken

[dense elbow]

That last thing is wild enough of a statement to get you banned. Mods plz

[junior gale]

shoulda dropped IV too such an overrated abillity. who wants an on demand 30% heal on a 30 sec cd sheeesh

[dense elbow]

Mods? Ban? Mods

[junior gale]

[storm rune]

does no damage, wastes rage?

useless, really

[junior gale]

True and real

[cursive pivot]

finally got it after an hour or so. took like 30 tries. biggest thing was saving bladestorm and odyn's fury for that nasty debuff

[thorny peak]

anyone got a REALLY cheap blacksmith friend?

[trim hound]

What Realm/Region?

[thorny peak]

na

and thrall

[limber verge]

guys

i have a question

[trim hound]

then no xD

[limber verge]

maxroll.gg tells me to craft my 2h

with vers mastery stats on it

is that right ?

[trim hound]

It's a good default, but for best results you should sim it on raidbots.com

[limber verge]

so its not complete bullshit right?

cuz wowhead

told me the same

because archon.gg tells me haste mastery

[trim hound]

Yeah, I for example had too much haste so reforging most of my crafted stuff to vers+mastery was a dps improvement compared to haste+mastery

It depends on the rest of your gear basically

[limber verge]

i mean my stats are these

[junior gale]

The answer to gear and stats is to always sim your character

[limber verge]

I should go for more haste

i think

[limber verge]

how do I sim something I dont have

[winter shoal]

top gear

[limber verge]

and then

[trim hound]

this part

[limber verge]

oh i gotta type the name of the weapon in

aightt

[winter shoal]

Sorry I didn't remember the exact names of the input fields and stuff

They beat me to it

[trim hound]

I used to do it in "manually" in gear compare before i realized top gear had this functionality lmao

[junior gale]

Yee it's nice

[limber verge]

tells me this tho

[winter shoal]

Seems like the offhand you have selected isn't viable for some reason

Embellishments probably

Or if you have an offhand selected while simming arms or something

[limber verge]

im so confused

[winter shoal]

Can you send me your simc string

[limber verge]

i sent u dm

[severe pine]

Select all the weapons you want to sim in both hands. So select those same claymores in your offhand.

[sullen dove]

its an agility weapon in the offhand...

prolly doesnt like that

[winter shoal]

Yeah we figured it out, that was (one of) the problems

[thick fossil]

Did you get it crafted already?

I'm on Thrall as well is why I ask.

[wanton mirage]

what is the max ilvl for isle ring?

[covert blaze]

this week is 652

[wanton mirage]

i keep seeing people with 655

thats why am confused

[frank dawn]

there are soem bugs/exploits that let people get extras

but the intended level is 652 this week

[wide forge]

What’s the warrior leap tech for last boss of ara?

Leveled to 80 last week and been running keys

[hardy wadi]

You can leap right aftet the last second. My plater shows me always 0,6-0,8s when i leap. Always when i leap on the full second im getting hit. Took me some time to figute out, now im doing it consistent.

[wide forge]

Oo that makes a lot of sense. I’ve been leaping away around the last second and get but every time. I’ll work on timing it better

[wide forge]

Ty!

[storm rune]

Your character will do a hop animation, that's the final "pull" of the mechanic, when you see the hop go off you're free to leap

Which is generally ~0.9sec left on the cast

[wide forge]

So basically control the urge to leap out immediately and wait as close to the end of the cast as possible? And pay attention to the hop animation

[storm rune]

yeah, it's very consistent

[lament otter]

How difficult is Court really? We just killed Kyveza

[summer quail]

uhhh... have fun

[lament otter]

[unreal onyx]

Glhf, kyveza is a cakewalk compared to court imo (currently progging court, down to like 45%)

[undone flower]

I had so much more fun compared to kyv tbh

[lament otter]

I didn’t like kyveza at all

[unreal onyx]

Court is fun at least

But also despair, especially at the beginning

[summer quail]

court was the most miserable prog i have ever done. rekill not too bad tho

[undone flower]

Yeah the 30-1min first seconds is a shitshow at first but after these pulls you have fun

[lament otter]

Does it matter a lot whether I play slayer or thane on court?

[summer quail]

no, it's not a dps check. thane is a bit better prob, but the difference isn't that big

[undone flower]

I prefer thane so I played thane on the fight, that’s it

I simmed 2 t 5 min but was not that huge gain if I remember

[lament otter]

I see

[undone flower]

Without OF thane

[shut quiver]

chat i have a question

in mythic+ it seems to work but im wondering if anyones tested. do you guys split your cds between packs? all of our damage is pumped in those small windows and it feels wasteful using all of it on 1 pack. is it fine to just reck + odyns fury (gives avatar) then bladestorm with 1 on use trinket, then avatar + roar + on use trinket on the next big pack?

im usually comfortably topping dps meter so im assuming its all good

[undone flower]

I don’t push and I don’t play slayer the rare time I’m dps in m+, but you do more dmg by stacking your cds, you don’t have all your cds lined with bosses like that, and you should have 1 small pack between 2 big packs to get cds back when you do more advanced m+ idk how to explain sry

[sullen dove]

Generally yea better to use all your cds at the same time but you do kinda have to think ahead “is this a pack that will live long enough to make full use out of them”

or it may be prudent to save cds if you have a hard boss that has some dmg checks in higher keys or something

[undone flower]

And sometime you just use them on this wasted cd pack because you plan to have it on that other moment, so it’s just to use them

Like cd the first dudes of mist maze

[shut quiver]

i see i see

ill have to smack some dummies and try it in actual keys and see what my numbers look like

[last pier]

Haven’t touched the game in over a month now just waiting room for next season. How are we looking on PTR?

[hollow elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBBngFoJc0 our lord savior || and more often than not executioner || made a video about it

[tardy lark]

[inner saffron]

Queen P3, do I just leap the circle or is there something else I gots to do?

[sudden tusk]

jump before you leap

[oblique trail]

Just leap

[sudden tusk]

if you just natty leap it can hit the edge

jump before leaping guarentees it

[inner saffron]

Thank you

[clever belfry]

i can hit the edge anyway (i have bad aim)

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-clotheslined-death-cringe-cringe-meme-gif-26447781

[clever belfry]

i just die of die

[oblique trail]

Die of meow

[clever belfry]

the meow just ledt me again banezi

they need to walcc around randomly

[oblique trail]

I'm sorry for your loss

They are sure to return after their walk procs

[radiant plank]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-cat-grey-cat-cute-cat-gif-2949633679466643461

[clever belfry]

yee they just stupid

(cat)

[south kayak]

yo

[thick fossil]

What key levels are you talking about? In lower keys, sure sending all cool downs on a pack is most likely overkill.

[prisma atlas]

Trying to learn Fury mainly for M+.
Guide builds are talenting Odyn's Fury, while almost every top log of every dungeon doesn't.

Should I learn the spec with Odyn's Fury or not?

[thick fossil]

Dropping OF for VC is for more prio damage.

[radiant plank]

Nothing to learn in using OF

its just a button to press every 45

[south kayak]

Blizzard balanced damage

[dense elbow]

I recommend not going OF build, as it requires more experience and knowledge on how to get value out of it. Based on pull-paterns and dungeons. If you go VC+BT you simply gain more stable overall DPS that will never fall short. As is, Odyn's is fun, but it is low value thanks to its low AoE potential in M+ DPS. It is more a tool to burst down things fast to make things easier to end quickly. Example is boss adds in NW, or killing off the smallboys in vault fast to make everything safer.

VC as mentioned is just more damage on prio targets, and requires no play to worry about. As such is just less of a headache and you don't have to worry about "do I send it now, or is the tank suddenly going to pull more in 3 sec?"

[prisma atlas]

Thanks for the detailed answer.
I'll play with VC. I reserved a place for OF in my keybinds in case I have to play it in the future.

[dense elbow]

That day will never happen, Devs hate OF doing dam. So only if you raid will you kinda 'need' it. Though, I do recommend you just playing OF for fun, if you don't mind the value loss

[unreal onyx]

Depending on the key level and build you are using

I‘ve been playing slayer for months now in raid and m+ bc it’s brain off, press buttons

[dense elbow]

And because it is fun, I hope

[thick fossil]

You will love VC on Ingra (1st boss of Mists). Big burn phase crits.

[unreal onyx]

Slayer is fun, thane aswell arguably but since I only do keys up to 12 nowadays I just use slayer for the ease of it

Thane TC is always activates my neurons when I use it

[hardy bluff]

not like thane is much more complex

[dense elbow]

Both are fun, I prefer Slayer. But, Fury overall is just great in TWW to play

[shut quiver]

slayer in raids, thane in m+

only diff in rotation with thane is thunder blast. thats it, 1 ability

[red berry]

[desert cloud]

Are we cooked chat ?

[thick fossil]

F in chat

[desert cloud]

Mods ban this guy

We are definetly cooked in s2

[unreal onyx]

Who could‘ve seen that coming

(Me)

[south kayak]

(same)

[thick fossil]

It's gonna depend a lot on the tuning of it, but yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a "fun" tier.

[unreal onyx]

Then blizz will buff BT and RB dmg again and we‘re back to bottom middle

[thick fossil]

Maybe F.U.N.

[south kayak]

I think it's going to be a fun tier

because I'm not playing warrior

(Enha)

most likely

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-whatever-eye-roll-gif-14086660

[unreal onyx]

Fotm

[red berry]

we’ll get tuning lmao

[south kayak]

Well, I rerolled to enha this season and I'm still playing it because I find it very fun

Tuning doesn't really matter, I'll just play warrior as a second char unless enha becomes somehow shit to play

which is doubtful considering it's even more fun with the changes

[unreal onyx]

I am fury and I stay fury

I survived SL S1 and S2, I can survive anything

[gloomy zenith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKc5Cljicjc

looks interesting as fury

[south kayak]

is that an fight

add fight*

[gloomy zenith]

yeah

[south kayak]

okay

[gloomy zenith]

bossfight from raid

[south kayak]

Hope there's less add fights

Nerbuar was ridiculous with the amount of add fights

[thick fossil]

SL1 and 2 were pretty decent for Fury.

[south kayak]

There should be 1-3 add fights in a raid

[gloomy zenith]

maybe you mean DF?

[south kayak]

not 5 or whatever it was in Nerubar

[unreal onyx]

Early S1 SL was down bad, no?

[south kayak]

Fury in S1 and 2 of DF was fine

[unreal onyx]

And SoD was also down bad iirc

[gloomy zenith]

okay

dont loved anhilator build xD

[south kayak]

More so due to the fact that arms was really good in SOD

[unreal onyx]

Fury > arms

[south kayak]

Real

[unreal onyx]

No matter the tuning or circumstances

[radiant plank]

noob take

[gloomy zenith]

Fury > all others xD

[unreal onyx]

I am a noob, never claimed to be good

[dense elbow]

Early SL was a question if we was worth bringing to the raid, even if you included our raid buff
It was real bad
Nothing a few 3% auras could fix

[unreal onyx]

Fury fuck fun, arms fuck lame

[dense elbow]

Walhe just salty

ignore the arms main

[unreal onyx]

I played arms in SL S2 a lil bit bc guild told me to

Op op ms op op ms rend op op ms

[dense elbow]

Boring, but really decent dam

[thick fossil]

It was still better than current, but sure we did get some buffs early on that helped alot.

[unreal onyx]

[radiant plank]

s3 fury, one macro played the game for you

[thick fossil]

If you went Venthyr right off the hop then yeah, it was down bad. Especially for M+

[dense elbow]

Oh right, quite a few ppl used the Rampage, Bloodbath macro

[radiant plank]

Parsed 99 with macro

anyone who says s3 was good fury tier

gameplay wise

coping

[dense elbow]

Hoy

[south kayak]

Yeah it was trash

[dense elbow]

OF was strong

you guys wrong

best tier

[south kayak]

OF was weak as fuck

[dense elbow]

No u

[radiant plank]

S2 and S1 unironically so much better gameplay

[unreal onyx]

DF S3? Or SL S3?

[south kayak]

the only reason you used it was because of the tier set

DF

[radiant plank]

df

[south kayak]

SL didn't have OF

[dense elbow]

I prefered S3, even if I enjoyed S1 and kinda S2

[unreal onyx]

I loved S3 for the good ST

[south kayak]

Yo Walhe

Cleave owns on ptr

[unreal onyx]

I was avid S3 voter

[radiant plank]

it owns on retail too box

[south kayak]

yeah but it owns more on ptr

[dense elbow]

I was 15 votes for S1, still didnt get it

[unreal onyx]

S3 was big fun in raid and good fun in m+

[dense elbow]

It was, big dam, big fun

[unreal onyx]

S2 was fun in m+ and dogwater in raid

Imo

[south kayak]

I think they made it better to play with execute in M+ colossus build

[dense elbow]

I kinda got tired of S2, while AM is fun - I play it now, the BT stacking was lackluster

[south kayak]

with the tier set, you don't need 2 points into deft per se

[dense elbow]

S3 had ompfh, S2 had a pretty meh BT hit

[radiant plank]

not needing 2 deft is bad

the rotation is now so Xd

if u get bad hedged bets

Also execute arguably even worse now for colossus on PTR cuz they removed exec from colossal might

[dense elbow]

That noone understands why

Cause that is pure fun detected

[south kayak]

Good change but they'd have to compensate

[sudden tusk]

blizzard has a weird issue with execute

they legit wont let the button be good

outside of slayer arms

[radiant plank]

Prolly inc this or nxt week

"5% demolish damage increased"

[dense elbow]

"Demolish now cant get out-ranged, and if target dies it will transfer the rest damage and hit to a target in range"

better than 5%

[south kayak]

:chatting

[dense elbow]

Looks like live, no?

Also, arms - yuckie stinky spec

[south kayak]

it's funny how much worse WW is compared to Cleave and it's your replacement lol

[radiant plank]

by design

[gloomy zenith]

do you think that we play onslaught instead of odyns fury cause of the change from titans tourment? Or you play the buffs to RA? Or do we play now as The Bbloodthirst execute talent al ways up?

[radiant plank]

they really dont want us to do aoe without cleave

[gloomy zenith]

seems simply easy rotation xD

[dense elbow]

Onslaught is not held back by OF, it is held back by the efficency of the other builders and its own lack of value to replace one of their GCD spots

[south kayak]

basically shit damage

[south kayak]

Yeah

[dense elbow]

Basically, ya just take some passive damage mods that improves your other builders, and you get more value

[clever belfry]

Me when it just looks good cause u press it every 3rd global out of exe too

[dense elbow]

Make ashen Jugg increase crit and crit dam by 50%, ez fix

[gloomy zenith]

okay thx so maybe i play AM and bloodthirs execute instead of odyns fury as thane

do you also think it has impact on slayer? I love the slayer build for boosting or low keys but it dont feels so smashy anymore on ptr

[sudden tusk]

colossus is gonna be omega tanky next season though

9% avoid +10% stam + IP +5% from hero talents

[south kayak]

WHY IS THERE a .0 here

WHY

Fix this shit

[sudden tusk]

cuz fuck you box

[radiant plank]

Tuning knob

[molten night]

don't forget the 5% size increase.

[sudden tusk]

thats what the gas station pills tell me too

[south kayak]

The 5% she tells you not to worry about

[molten night]

LOL

[dense elbow]

PTR slayer is a mess, as Slayer got nerfed (BS) because of TT burst window potential. Not sure what you mean by impact tho.

AM works as Thane, for sure - and is fun. A bit less focus dam than if you go RA, but not enough that you should feel forced not to go it for M+

[south kayak]

[dense elbow]

Clappa Clappa AM Thane, just feels how they envisioned it. Furious and spammy. While execute build slayer feels like how they wanted Slayer to work, tho they never buffed exe to enable it :v

[molten night]

is Slayer really that bad on ST that we need to run thane?

[gloomy zenith]

thx

[south kayak]

No, don't think so

[sudden tusk]

slayer single target is okay

[dense elbow]

Slayer ST is still fine, I am pretty sure. Dont worry about that

[sudden tusk]

but i really really dont like the revert to RA

[molten night]

okgood

[sudden tusk]

even with a bunch of adds i think arms will see play though

cleave does so much damage now that it doesnt matter

[dense elbow]

The hit to slayer is mainly that BS no longer gets the benefits of TT, so the nerfs that was done to stem the AoE burst in raid, really really stings

[molten night]

i play Fury for the speedy rotation.

[dense elbow]

I play fury for the instant AoE burst and executes

[molten night]

that too

😄

[south kayak]

Wouldn't buffing OF just fix that issue

to compensate for the TT change

[radiant plank]

Very cheap to talent too

[dense elbow]

For OF yes, but not for BS

[radiant plank]

• demolish fucks

on adds

[dense elbow]

Remember BS followed up on OF's TT avatar, that is gone

[south kayak]

I don't really think it's that bad, just tune it somewhere else

[sudden tusk]

that boss we tested was really fun though

[dense elbow]

For Slayer, they kinda got to bake it back into it. Hopefully through execute nodes

[south kayak]

I haven't seen anything about that boss yet

I know it's add boss

Does it have any unique mechanics

[sudden tusk]

yeah you basically roll cartoon style ontop of a big ball of garbage. make it big enough to hit the bomb/adds/and boss

katamari damachi kinda

[south kayak]

lmfao

that sounds funny

Did u guys see the dh bug

[sudden tusk]

was like infinite eye beam

or some shit

[south kayak]

For some reason their eye beam's cd is not working lol

reminds me of radon's in legion

You have to use chaos strike after eye beaming

and that resets the cd for some reason

[desert cloud]

Wattdasigma

[grand raft]

Hello warriors. Im about to play fury from now on, earlier i’ve been playing protection mostly. Can somebody explain me Basic rotation and prio? I dont know when to use bloodbath or bloodthrist or raging BLOW/crushing blow or even execute or rampage. I know rampage is on top of prio. I dont wanna spam herę either so it would be nice of someone dm me. I watched wowhead rotation list but i Think i am doing something wrong.

[radiant plank]

if thats your conclusion of the prio after reading the wowhead guide I recommend you re read it

[dense elbow]

Tldr priolist:
Rampage, CB, BB, BT, RB, Exe <- click in order, will be good enough for now
Once you got a feel of pressing the buttons, you can go back to WoWhead and finetune the prio order

[gloomy zenith]

this looks good for me on ptr for full aoe or you change odyns and critical thinking with swift strikes and VC for more st orientated build

[oblique trail]

This implies that you'd press Rampage if you have either CB or BB ready, which is not the case

It'd be the correct place to put Rampage, if you don't have enrage active

[radiant plank]

Kappachungus rotation

[dense elbow]

it does, but will get the job done in 90% of cases. As you will seldom Rampage, Rampage. More often Rampage, CB, and CB into BB will be common.
It aint a perfect guide, that is the fine tuning from wowhead, but it will get the job done

[oblique trail]

You will be able to Rampage Rampage quite often during CDs

[radiant plank]

90% kinda high ngl

you could go entire reck dura ramp ramp ramp

[oblique trail]

So telling someone to basically ignore RA is not the play

[dense elbow]

I trust in the fine tuneing will iron out that, once the buttons are in the fingers

[oblique trail]

What if they fine tune their rotation around what you told them?

To ignore CB and BB if Rampage is ready

[radiant plank]

Better to write.

• Reck + Ava + Bladestorm on CD
• Rampage to get "Enrage" Buff
• Consume Bloodbath and Crushing Blow gained from talent "Reckless abandon"
• Rampage again after consuming both if you can.
• Fill in with raging blow and bloodthirst

[dense elbow]

Then they clearly did not base it on the guide I told them to use, eh?

[oblique trail]

No but they already struggled to understand the rotation from the guide, where you then tell them something that's still different from what the guide says, and tell them to follow that

So you're telling them, get used to X rotation, but go back and learn Y rotation afterwards

Instead of just tell them plainly, "This is Y rotation laid out, follow this and it's basically the same as the guide"

There's a big difference between engraining into your fingers to just press Rampage when it's ready, and actively spending CB and BB before Rampaging again

[dense elbow]

Not a hill I am willing to fight you over, as you are not wrong. Still, I am in doubt how much harm is done

Guess I presume ppl are more maliable than you

or whatever the word is

[radiant plank]

Learning to play incorretly first is quite alot of harm done i am afraid

[oblique trail]

I can definitely change my rotation around a lot quicker than the average people, because I've played this game as much as I have, in particular this class

But straight up telling someone to play the rotation wrong from the get-go is just not the play

[dense elbow]

Hm, perhaps. I simply do not see it as the same giga issue - compared to learning the buttons, for then fixing the RA stuff - if he even play RA

[oblique trail]

Considering they mentioned Crushing Blow and Bloodbath, it's fair to assume they are

And to my knowledge, none of the talent builds recommend AM either

[dense elbow]

Shame, AM is fun

[radiant plank]

Learning to play the meta playstyle first is usually better

After this when he understands that he can try to learn the alternative playstyle

altho AM playstyle has nothing to learn

[oblique trail]

Very subjective

I personally think AM is horrendous

[dense elbow]

Everything is, in the end, when it comes to this kind of opinion

[oblique trail]

And I only played it because it was better on Broodtwister

[radiant plank]

AM makes fury uptime slave harder than it already is

[dense elbow]

Horrendus tho?

[oblique trail]

Yes

I despise dynamic CDR

[dense elbow]

How come?

[oblique trail]

Because of what Walhe said the most

[dense elbow]

Is it just that you like the feel or the preplan?

[radiant plank]

Flat CDR is guaranteed

dynamic CDR is not

example S2 DF fury or S4 SL destro

you could have 2min infernal or 45s infernal

[dense elbow]

Ah, so it is a mental feel thing - fair, I can see where you coming from

[radiant plank]

depending what your tank was pulling

[oblique trail]

It's not a mental thing

You can just straight up not have your CDs ready when you need them

[dense elbow]

And that can happen without CDR too?

[oblique trail]

Correct, but then you can plan around the fact that your CDs are hard locked to being 1:30

[dense elbow]

So it is a more consistency planning thing, wher you want it 100% and no varriable. As you dislike the uncertainty

[unreal onyx]

Gamba spec bad

[oblique trail]

I did not play in S2 DF, but I have plenty of times heard how often people did damage whether or not they had Reck + Ravager ready for adds

And the same can be said for Broodtwister this tier

[radiant plank]

Echo of Neltharion was worst

as fury prog

[sudden tusk]

AM is rough

[radiant plank]

you could or could not have reck for every p2 add

[sudden tusk]

becuase you have to have perma uptime or its a mega damage loss

[unreal onyx]

Loved not having CDs up

[sudden tusk]

RA was so much better

[radiant plank]

depending if bomb or no bomb

[unreal onyx]

AM good for m+ but dogwater for raid

[oblique trail]

Correct, I don't mind RNG in my gameplay, as long as it's not all or nothing

[radiant plank]

Still, having flat 45s CDR on reck

would feel amazing in m+

[dense elbow]

I just love how 99% of these cases become "I am raider" "I play M+" disagreements of if something works or not

[unreal onyx]

Thats why I preferred S3 over S2 DF

[radiant plank]

am good bad is not raid vs m+ argument

[unreal onyx]

S3 was decent in both, S2 was good in m+ but shit in raid

[dense elbow]

AM bad in M+ because variable timers?

[radiant plank]

Even in m+ its better to have flat CDR than dynamic

so you can plan your pulls better

[warm crag]

you are so talented!

[unreal onyx]

So the overall pick for me was S3

[radiant plank]

even in pugs its better to have flat

[warm crag]

die AM die!

[tardy lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1298369463153987614/kO1CS.gif

[unreal onyx]

Remove AM

[radiant plank]

Only thing from dynamic CDR gives is dopamine watching your cds go down

[dense elbow]

Weird, did not expect the AM hate from the Fury crowd that also dislike OF

[oblique trail]

So true!

Just look at my mage logs

[tardy lark]

All the dopamine i need is ID'ing a tier 5 rare in PoE2 and seeing it be trash once again

[unreal onyx]

I like OF and dislike AM

[warm crag]

woah i looted a tier 5 expert dualstring bow!

[dense elbow]

While I love OF static CD, and love AM

[radiant plank]

I am a passionate hater of Fury in general, hope this helps

[warm crag]

surely it will be a top dps contender and roll attack speed on it

[dense elbow]

we all know

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/poe2-login-poe2-gif-17607649316887088565

[warm crag]

i think im close to done tbf

breach invitations are down to half a div and i cba travelling half the world to do 5 tower circles is getting grating

and upgrading my build again looks like it'll cost more than the temporalis

[tardy lark]

Ill be back once i can actually feasibly get omens and bronze citadels

[oblique trail]

They are changing it next patch so citadels are easier to spot

Or maybe it was towers

[tardy lark]

My next weapon upgrade is 120 div ish somehow

[oblique trail]

One of the two

[warm crag]

it is citadels ye

apparently the citadel was never rarer ppl just got obliterated by some corpse explosion bug on the bossfight

[tardy lark]

Idk how much temporalis is post dupe fix

supposedly

[warm crag]

last time i checked its 80+

i bought for 70 shrug

uncorrupted goes for 125 lmaooo

[tardy lark]

i kinda thought about "investing" in a 20 div temporalis, but thought better of it if they suddenly removed the duped ones

[warm crag]

ya idk i think it was semi obvious they wouldn't delete them

if it goes on for more than a day they'd hit so many innocent ppl

[tardy lark]

i guess

[clever belfry]

he literally said the opposite

[tardy lark]

im not too fuzzed as monk cant really use temporalis either way

[warm crag]

they probs can

[tardy lark]

I went CI and somehow the game was fun for another 2 weeks again

Nah, best ascendancy node doesnt work with temporalis

chonk prolly can tho

[warm crag]

idk deadeye ditches acro for es tanking

[tardy lark]

yeah but you are giving up 250 spirit

[warm crag]

surely invoker can do the same

[tardy lark]

half of invokers power is the amount of aura stacking it can do for "free"

[warm crag]

oh yeah i can put stuff into my temporalis now

was gonna keep that mf empty forever

[weary sail]

[dense elbow]

Too many warriors signing up before you, so they get full picking them. Just try again, you got to be the first warrior to sign!

[clever belfry]

Newcomer Chat

holy

[dense elbow]

Is that a new thing? Never seen that before

[pulsar mason]

Do the reverse psychology. Get ~12s across the board as prot and when you Que into 10s decline every invite that wasn’t in first 10sec of quing

[oblique trail]

It's been around for years

[south kayak]

No

[clever belfry]

Ok but im old

:(

[dense elbow]

Is it only for new people?

[oblique trail]

Same

Sorry

[oblique trail]

New and mentors who sign up for it

I don't recall what you have to do to sign up for it

[dense elbow]

Butterer a mentor, what a chad

[chrome plover]

you need to do one out of a list of achievements

I am a mentor too

[clever belfry]

mendeez

gottem

[chrome plover]

but 99% of the chat in there is bots advertising boosts(?) and people trying to type /wave to the npc in exiles reach

[clever belfry]

the wave goes crazy

[south kayak]

Lmfao

[coarse nest]

Mendeez Nubz

[chrome plover]

or someone flaming their healer

in a level 10 dungeon

[south kayak]

Advertising boosts to newcomers is crazy

[dense elbow]

There are bots... in that chat? There is no way

I... am suprised, yet not?

[oblique trail]

High likelyhood that accounts with bots are new accounts

Ergo they'd have access

[warm crag]

This just isn't true lol

[chrome plover]

i see a lot of it

and newcomers have the little murloc icon above their head

you see a ton of panda dks hiding in corners called "boostadv" in org

with that icon

which means they have access to the chat

[warm crag]

I've been in that channel since release of it and ive not seen a single boost has been advertised in there

[desert cloud]

Noob

[chrome plover]

I see it pretty regularly

[river reef]

your my mentor

[warm crag]

Noob shard I guess

[desert cloud]

They should add a mentaly challenged chat for people in lfg

[warm crag]

Only thing I've seen is a guy logging in every week to spam a fuck your mother macro

[desert cloud]

That don't press interrupts

[chrome plover]

I've seen that guy too

[oblique trail]

Rude? Why would you do that?

You need to stop

[warm crag]

You have said too many outrageous and flat out rude things to keep the yellow role

[south kayak]

Lmao

[warm crag]

You should have been promoted to blue ages ago after you passed your 1000th slur in dms

[chrome plover]

true

[oblique trail]

I've never typed a "slur" in my life, I don't even know what this means?

Stop spreading lies

[warm crag]

You just typed it!

[oblique trail]

Sl*r

[warm crag]

Wtf?

[clever belfry]

should i leak dm?

banezi skyhold n word incident

[south kayak]

[gaunt mica]

Hey which is better crafted axe or sword?

[clever belfry]

doesn't matter

Craft whichever is cheaper.

You can also look at Mace and Polearm

(or craft whichever u think u might use the tmog of)

[gaunt mica]

Okay thanks

[fading sky]

Choose for mog

Mogs are forever

[thick fossil]

Mog of the two handers kinda suck. The one-handers though... that flail kinda slaps.

[hallow cipher]

whats the crit cap as fury ?

[oblique trail]

100%

There isn't any actual amount to go for

Simply just use top gear sim on raidbots to figure out what stats to use, with your current gear

[hybrid dawn]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/magtheridon/neoshadow/ struggling with dps on eggs and stuff for zekvir. Am i making any mistakes with my build/gear?

[thick fossil]

Get a str. weapon for your off hand, that one is blah.

[chrome plover]

that one is good actually

[thick fossil]

When I had it, I found it extremely lack luster

[fickle bluff]

Are you holding cooldowns for eggs

[chrome plover]

it was definitely better than same ilvl 2h for me at the time

[clever belfry]

69.420%

[oblique trail]

77.777%

[clever belfry]

qiqi.qiqiqi

[candid falcon]

new PB in a triple timed +10, i think i might try 11s

[hybrid dawn]

yes

Reck and avatar for first egg, bladestorm for second with odyns fury

alternate

[hybrid dawn]

really? it sims bis whenever i try to replace it

[junior gale]

its good for ST

[fickle bluff]

yeah i dont think your weapon is the problem

[junior gale]

thats it

[open prairie]

missing 13 ilvls on circlet

[hybrid dawn]

how do i raise it

i just got it today

[crystal coyote]

I got to play a mist 10 nearly on my own

[open prairie]

quests on the island

[surreal lynx]

yo would you guys recommend fury right now, took a break from it since df

[narrow narwhal]

Fun but not meta

[surreal lynx]

yeah dont realy care about meta aslong as its fun to play

[frank dawn]

it's def fun, has several different builds that are all viable

Thane and Slayer are both reasonably different in how they feel imo

[surreal lynx]

do u guys think we should get a glyph to alter the animation of execute

i feel the new one is a bit clunky

btw, also a question, does the new rings ilvl transfer across character, or is the ring behind in ilvl if i dont complete all the weekly quests

[frank dawn]

it doesn't transfer, but I think the item drops from rares and stuff as a catch-up mechanic

I don't know exactly how it works

[compact cairn]

i just looked at my build an compared it to the wowhead m+ builds and mine is not even close 😭

[slim coral]

Fury is currently pretty fun yes next tier is still tbd

There is likely more work to be done of the class

[ornate dagger]

did they fix leaping over the wave in ansurek p3?

[oblique trail]

No

You can simply just leap, but if you want to be safe, jump before the leap

[surreal lynx]

guys do i run cyrces circlet, in which case which gems?

[oblique trail]

Yes you always use it, and the gems you can find in #updates-midnight or in the guides

[lament otter]

new banezi pfp dropped

[lofty breach]

What’s up fellas
I’m new here and honestly new to the game
I was wondering if haste and mastery is our best stat
Why do the recommended items on wow head the crafted ones at least run haste versatility?
Did something change? It’s for pve
Thank you

[sullen dove]

if you’re lookin at a bis list or something it may be the case that some of the gear is crafted either haste verse cause you have “enough” mastery from other sources in the best possible gear in every slot

But as a general rule you don’t follow bis lists and just sim what robot tells you, so yea Its fine to craft most of your crafted gear with haste mast until you’re like 1-2 ilvls from max and can min max some stats around more then

[lofty breach]

I see
That is what I was looking at
I’m currently 630 and most of my gear is crafted so I should probably just craft the rest haste mastery since I’m not bis

Awesome thank you I appreciate it

Now if I could just get good at the game 😂

[sullen dove]

If you’re familiar with raidbots you can simply stats on crafted gear but yea

all in due time can sometimes be helpful to watch people play the game on stream in keys and m+ and stuff, at the very least just trying to pay attention to when they use their cds and stuff

But if you think ur having like a rotation problem wowhead shout have a pretty good synopsis of the most important info

Like making sure u always cb/bb after rampages for example

[lofty breach]

My issue is I can’t stick to the boss

I have too much down time running away from stuff I think will kill me

Which I know comes from running stuff over and over

That and idk what cb/bb is lol

This is my first time playing wow I started at the new expansion so it’s been a lot of learning

Currently I’m 4/8 mythic so a lot of luck in there

But I’m no where near topping any charts

[sullen dove]

Crushing blow and bloodbath which come from reckless abandon talent

they activate after hitting rampage and do a lot of your damage

[lofty breach]

Oh yeah I make sure to hit this after rampage
I think my biggest issue is just down time

[restive granite]

when do you guys pot in silken court?

just use 1 during lust?

or first at 14 seconds with first use of cds?

[winter shoal]

I do it during the 1:30 charge damage amp personally, if you wait til lust you probably won't get a second pot

[winter shoal]

I'm at work rn so cant really do it myself, but plug one of your sikran logs into wowanalyzer

[restive edge]

For ovinax, if we are lusting on pull, does it make sense to blow all CDs on pull, or just use 45 second cds and hold 90 second cds for adds?

[winter shoal]

For parsing or progging?

For progging, I'd just send everything with lust personally for the boss dam

You're probably turbo overkilling adds anyways

For parsing, it'll depend on how many add sets you get and if you're losing out on a cast of ava if you hold til 0:45

Or just lobby your guild to hold lust so you can parse better

[restive granite]

and after lust during first dispells in p2

when do you use your next set of cds? next damage amp?

or when boss are stacked at the start of p3

[winter shoal]

We lust on the first p2 dispel damage amp

Which is like 3:30 ish

So I hold cds for that lust

[restive granite]

yeah were doing the same

but after that set of cds

[summer quail]

just blow on pull, means you have small cds for first set. and all cds for 2nd

[winter shoal]

I cd on pull, 1:30 with pot, 3:30ish with lust

[restive granite]

do you use your next on next damage amp in p3 or at the start of p3 when bosses are stacked

[winter shoal]

My next usually come up right at the start of p2 intermission

So I send them then

We're still progging though

If you giga nuke the p2 intermission shield then it might be better to hold for start of p3 but idk, check lorrgs

[restive edge]

Technically prog? Guild killed it once. I joined during kyvesa program. We killed kyvesa but only about 12 members from original kill are around and were going back for those of us that don't have ovi kill

[vague sierra]

The only one I held was for lust at 3:30, everything else sent on pull

[winter shoal]

I'd probably just send everything on pull then personally

[restive edge]

I'm using 2x on use trinkets. Khadros and Skarmorak.

Normally I just send one with CDs then the other when it's available during the CDs

Do you think it would be better to just send one on pull, then hold one for adds and then just rotate during add phases?

[lofty breach]

I’m at a cpr class after I get home I’ll do that thank you

[winter shoal]

Yeah, you should be doing that anyways I think

As in use one every 45s

[restive edge]

I was unsure as where avatar is 24 seconds with titans fury - so I was using second on use trinkets after 15 seconds to have 9 seconds with avatar opposed to using it in the 4 second window of avatar when I pop my 45 seconds

If this makes sense, I feel like I had a stroke trying to explain my logic

[winter shoal]

Nah bud

Use one of your on-use for every add set

Like first one use mark, next one use skarshard, then next one mark will be up again

You can just macro /use 13 /use 14 onto your bladestorm or roar

[restive edge]

Oh I meant in general on regular fights for this

[winter shoal]

You probably should not run double on-use anywhere besides ovinax

And on ovinax only to use one for every add set

I mean sim yourself to check, but even a hero track sacbrood is probably better than a myth track double on-use

[vernal mantle]

guys
anyone played paladins
guys
warrior is a 'has been'

[regal vector]

big if true

[modest condor]

im sorry to hear that

[sullen dove]

🔮

[smoky vale]

hi ish

[sullen dove]

elo geeo

[sinful spoke]

Swordfish

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-gif-5118281

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/998100858829021196/1322739026918375464/caption.gif