fury

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/purge-gif-12422702707812710497

[covert blaze]

can't wait to get 6k mastery ring 1 week before season 2 ends

[smoky vale]

holy

chills

[lilac plinth]

cant find someone streaming fury warr make me sad

[dense elbow]

Top right corner, there are two streaming right now - Joshjar and Novix

[young swan]

he wants a ptr stream

[lilac plinth]

i meant on ptr

[young swan]

crit is gonna stream ptr tomorrow

and dan will be streaming later today

he might do ptr shit

i need the next build vro this one was a dud

[slim coral]

New zone is fire

[fickle bluff]

yeah cant wait for part 2

[red berry]

real

[smoky vale]

@slim coral how do i get there bro

[slim coral]

pick up quest in main dornogal building

[lament otter]

I got my roomate to play wow and he hasnt gone to bed yet

what have i done

[summer quail]

what class did he pick

[lament otter]

he hasnt played at all since cata, but he likes evoker

so evoker

he dont like melee so no warrior

[slim coral]

wow is one of the best games esp when you first get into it

no other feeling like it

[summer quail]

starting wow and picking evoker... what a travesty

[orchid iron]

so my M+ slayer build is simming higher than the "raid st" build, should I ignore that or let it ride?

on the standard patchwork sim

[lament otter]

How much higher?

[orchid iron]

50k higher than raid st, 11k higher than raid mt

[summer crater]

Having 8k health as mountain thane feels good

[past pivot]

Dpends on how you simmed it. Can always post them

[past pivot]

8,000hp??

[orchid iron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/d3sKgBWEdMsSZoFi9KdZ7g

[summer crater]

8000k 🤦‍♂️

[past pivot]

What is cleave add?

[orchid iron]

oh ait

yea I just saw that

thats wierd

[slim coral]

I'm at 10 mil

[orchid iron]

myster solved lol

[summer crater]

How?

[slim coral]

just from gear from the vendor

[summer crater]

Ah

[verbal garden]

Are sims fairly accurate when using Chaos flask? I assume it just randomizes stats as would happen in game? Mastery always sims better but I see most people using chaos. Just wondering if sims don't match actual play.

[young swan]

madox is streaming ptr shit

[sudden tusk]

smf rise up

[slim coral]

smf will stay dead but nice mog for sure

[iron portal]

SMF fall down

[compact knot]

do we think about ovinax trinket at all or just let that shit exist

[slim coral]

depends what your options are for trinkets on you

[compact knot]

626 sacbrood, 626 transmitter, 626 ovinax egg

all i got

pretty sure you go like a 15-15 split on the stacks, use it then use transmitter then just dont think about it at all

[sullen dove]

i mean if u got equal ilvl sac you just use sac

simple as

only reason youd use 639 ovi egg over heroic sac

[compact knot]

idk ovinax sims like 8k higher

[sullen dove]

[compact knot]

than 626 sac

[frank dawn]

a whole 8k

Huge

[sullen dove]

i mean kinda but weird it even says it is

[radiant plank]

thats like 0.5%!

[compact knot]

thats quite a bit for a same ilvl trinket

[sullen dove]

regardless that does assume you keep stacks constant between 10-20

if it goes over for any reason it gets worse

[compact knot]

icic

[sullen dove]

which is mostly doable on most bosses

just annoying

[compact knot]

yeah i figured it be like that

[sullen dove]

constantly stutter stepping on court

[compact knot]

keep it under 20

[sullen dove]

you can also reliably have 31 stacks and do 11-20

with like 2 seconds of setup

but i dont think 1 extra stack is make or break

[hard crown]

when it comes to set pieces earlier game, does the pieces matter of which i catalise? like rn I have a pair of 619 boots i can turn into a set piece

and a belt

the 2 set pieces i have atm are gloves and chest

[modest condor]

well yeah you want to catalyse something that turns into a tierpiece, so no belt or boots

but otherwise no, you can just do a top gear sim and check which item is the biggest upgrade when catalysing

[hard crown]

im new so havent learned simming yet, but will research it, thanks so much

[narrow delta]

Observation from PTR atm, along with BB (dot) not cleaving:
BB (dot) is not currently scaling with

• ANY secondaries or
• talents in the warrior three.
• Avatar?
  It looks like it is not coded like a bleed, though not even "Powerful Enrage" seems to be buffing it.

[iron portal]

True power move is to catalyse for Tmog

[young swan]

correct

doesnt scale with enrage, powerful enrage, or avatar

[modest condor]

im planning to do that at the end of the patch

[narrow delta]

yep and mastery as you first wrote

[young swan]

well enrage is mastery

so

they are the same

[narrow delta]

fair point

[young swan]

i wrote mastery again cause brain fart

[short silo]

I cant log in on PTR it always says, "No realms are currently available."... Does it matter that Im from EU or anyone else who had the same issue?

[tepid lily]

no more OF

?

at least for ST

[young swan]

well

it was good on ST for like 2 weeks during beta

its just dead on ptr rn

completely and utterly

[tepid lily]

and aoe viable?

onslaught

[young swan]

pretty sure we're just playing the reck shit

onslaught isnt worth the opportunity cost to press

[gilded pawn]

onslaught doesnt interact with any talent but 1

if you play ons you just dont have the gcds

you can probably play it with AM in an alternate universe

[gilded pawn]

OF hasnt been viable in ST for a long time

[tepid lily]

thinking of playing AM atm

but it's eh gameplay

[young swan]

nah its shit

[gilded pawn]

so the current consensus is RA+double reck talents?

[young swan]

yeah

[grave pewter]

I got a 616 befoulers syringe in the vault is it junk? I can't Sim atm

[gilded pawn]

isnt that the weapon

its very low ilevel

[grave pewter]

It's the 2h polearm ya

I just have regular ass crafted atm so the ilvl is good I just don't know if a wep with no str is good

[gilded pawn]

good on st

but you can just upgrade your crafted to 635

[summer quail]

surely capital punishment not being unique is not intended

[young swan]

doesnt it have a stack cap

[remote yew]

boys how do I have a 658 ring?

[young swan]

faction swap

is the only way

it resets the quest

[remote yew]

I faction swapped two weeks ago

I got two upgrades today

[young swan]

[thorny peak]

queen ring in vault.....................QUEEN RING IN VAULT WOOO

[young swan]

wooo

[summer quail]

yes, but if having 2 stacks it faster it might still be good. not to mention the stats on the weapon is very nice

do you guys have working details on ptr btw?

[young swan]

i dont

idk if anyone else does

[modest condor]

i did earlier today

can check if it still works

ya my details is working

it's just the latest version of normal details

[narrow delta]

worked for me 30min ago

[unique umbra]

If you are not Enraged when casting Odyn's Fury but you have Titanic Rage talented, will the OF damage benefit as if you were Enraged?

[modest condor]

yes

[unique umbra]

OK cool. Wanted to make sure playing Reckless Abandon on the pull

of Brood

er AM

I mean

[summer quail]

got it working

hmh bloodbath dot cannot crit

[modest condor]

a lot of things it cant do

[young swan]

yeah its handicapped rn

[narrow delta]

no stats or talents seem to affect it atm*

atm BB with the dot i imagine will be on the bottom of a prio list of buttons to press on st and aoe

just above WW

[summer quail]

something clearly affects it, idk what tho.

[narrow delta]

Strength

[summer quail]

yea prob it. max stacks of eggsac plus transmitter would probably cover that difference

i just went and picked up 4 set plus weapons, not tested any trinkets yet

[young swan]

dont test garbagemancers last resort

[narrow delta]

yeah, used a bit of time to look into it, along with Danwarr

[summer quail]

oh? is it either broken or crashes the game?

[young swan]

dont test garbagemancers last resort

[smoky vale]

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/item=235813/machine-gobs-iron-grin#see-also anyone know where this is from

[summer quail]

prob world drop or delve

like the polearm on live

[smoky vale]

i cant wait to farm that

mutou any arms build i play

[slim coral]

new dungeon was fun

one of the ads is pretty op with the shreed gear cast

[summer quail]

idk, bleedless colossus or some shit

they nerfed bleeds, so idk where you put talent points anymore for arms ahahah. prob still bleeds

[pallid wolf]

I really want to know if any of the current devs actually play wow, or if they just ask chat gpt for ideas on stuff to fuck with

[young swan]

[pallid wolf]

So far I have tested Fury-Slayer, Fury-Than, Havoc, Enhancement, and SV-Sent.

Every single one of them has been either, so little of a change I can't notice, or a small to huge nerf, except SV. Shaman is so broken right now I can't help but think its not done cooking. Like my dps went from around 765k on live, to 330 on ptr (exact same gear)

[smoky vale]

holy

[smoky vale]

@summer quail

most cursed build ever

[glass thicket]

someone have a build for ptr m+ ?

[pallid wolf]

my testing, I went from 1.25 mil, 2:30 on the test dummy (live) to 1.05 Mil 2:30 on the test dummy (ptr). 5 runs on each, then average the dps. So now im about to try AM because apparently they want us playing AM.

[narrow delta]

Fueled by violence seems counterproductive? 😅

[smoky vale]

i changed it

[clever path]

warrior rework when?

[oblique trail]

The alternative is IP, which is hot garbage

[smoky vale]

but yeah

[summer quail]

@young swan using 2 of last boss weapon stacks it wayyyy faster. like a shit ton faster

[narrow delta]

are we no longer flooding in rage?

[summer quail]

using only it's so goddamn slow

[narrow delta]

this is an arms subject tbf, my bad

[summer quail]

pretty sure arms still is

[smoky vale]

yearp

[compact knot]

man AM is fun on the ptr

idk if the damage is good but

[narrow delta]

Wouldn’t worry about the dmg too much atm 🙂

We are surely gonna get buffed into the raid

[summer quail]

definetely better than RA right now. bloodbath cannot crit, doesn't seem to be affected by mastery etc

[compact knot]

man this tier set is cringe

[winter shoal]

thane or slayer

[compact knot]

thane

[winter shoal]

we love am thane

[compact knot]

my bloodthirst damage is = to my rampage damage

thats probably vicious contempt on the dummy tho mostly

[dense elbow]

AM slayer is even fun on live, don't sleep on it

[fresh socket]

Fury looking good on ptr?

[winter shoal]

no 🙂

[compact knot]

its fun

damage seems lacking though

[summer quail]

have you seen arms tier? hooooly now that is a bad tier

[compact knot]

that can change though

[thin cliff]

"can" is pretty optimistic

[fresh socket]

Im alrdy depressed abt prot i need good news

[compact knot]

it has before

happened in DF in season 3 i think it was, we easily had the strongest tierset on ptr by a mile then it got gutted

esp in aoe

[modest condor]

i mean the tierset was like a 70% dps increase

[compact knot]

yeah

ur not wrong lmao

[modest condor]

saying it was the strongest by a mile is an understatement lol

[compact knot]

it was still pretty strong even after the nerfs

[modest condor]

even after the first set of nerfs it was still twice as strong as the other tiersets

yeah

[compact knot]

in its release state it made fury a viable spec on ST

which was cool

[modest condor]

what was it again? something like 100% crit chance on 1 stack and 50% damage increase per stack and it could proc multiple times per cast

[compact knot]

odyns fury does 50% more damage and causes your next 3 bloodthirsts to do 150% more damage and have 100% crit chance

what a goated tier set

really surprised it didnt get voted in season 4 lmao

[modest condor]

no, the ptr version

[compact knot]

oh the ptr version

[modest condor]

or am i thinking of the season 2 set now

i dont remember

[summer quail]

s2, when each rampage hit applied it

[compact knot]

was that it?

[modest condor]

yeah it was s2

[compact knot]

yeah that was

ok

[modest condor]

(4) Set Bonus: Rampage critical strikes against your primary target cause your next Bloodthirst to deal 50% increased damage and generate 2 additional Rage, stacking up to 4 times. It also has a 100% chance to critically strike.

that was so disgustingly broken, and people were still complaining when they nerfed it lol

[summer quail]

s3 set didn't get changed but the way RA interacted with it was broken, we would do 3x bts in a row after each rampage. which was also pretty broken with the set. i bet that is what you were thinking of, since we tested volcoross together on ptr @compact knot

[compact knot]

yeah that was it i remember now

[summer quail]

so they changed RA instead. no more resetting bt cd and 1 empowered charge instead of 2

[smoky vale]

guys i dont think the build im playing is good

[compact knot]

does snap induction proc when unbridled ferocity procs

[gilded pawn]

oh yeah i remember that

[compact knot]

i think even if it does its probably still worse than the other choice node

[gilded pawn]

it was just bb bt ramp

[smoky vale]

guys

do not play with a disc

this shit stinky

[dense elbow]

You stinky, I like disco. Disco disco fun fun

[compact knot]

i play smf

xdd

[random hill]

ok

im actually proud of myself

17 sv done in non meta comp

[velvet canopy]

Woah I didn't think non-Pally tanks existed anymore this season

[random hill]

we found one xd

Polish premade

[final birch]

Najsik

[random hill]

Myrtuuuuuu

<3333

[final birch]

Take out the boomie and its btm

[random hill]

real af xD

[sonic shoal]

Worst Burning Legion player ever :v

[sour tundra]

why is it so hard to fill a 10 key

[sonic shoal]

Reset is in 18 minutes in Europe soooo

[random hill]

😦

[sonic shoal]

Just kidding, teach me senpai

[random hill]

i got u homie

[craggy sleet]

all im saying is fellas

they updated the enrage icon

[random hill]

thats hella cool

when they add bloodlust to warriors thou

[winter shoal]

polska gurom?

yuge tho gz bud

[random hill]

POLSKA GUROM!

tyvm m8 ❤️

[young swan]

SR also got updated

[violet condor]

spell reflect and enrage icon update? warriors so back!1!!!!111!

[young swan]

yeah 1 sec

https://www.twitch.tv/3madox/clip/ComfortableGoodPenguinTBTacoRight-g4lcmXYvTO5y1Grg

[dense elbow]

As long they don't update the sound

I am dopamine trained on that

[warm crag]

black panther main

[sullen dove]

BABY IM PREYIN ON YOU TONIIIGHT

[violet condor]

guys what if these new animations are hinting to the warrior rework?

copium or hopium?

[young swan]

lol

[warm crag]

me when i overdose on copium

[junior gale]

and people still gonna kick the reflect!

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/neuron-activation-neuron-gif-1455356329209493514

@sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

return to monke

[upbeat plume]

I'd laugh if they keep the infinite stacking dot on bb lol I guess it helps with the sustain loss from the ra changes.

[midnight bolt]

hey all! newbie warr here trying out Fury. Just wanted to ask when not able to use Thunder Blast/Rampage or Bloodthirst, you spam Raging Blow as a filler?

halp halp :p

[upbeat plume]

If you check the wowhead guides there is a priority list in the rotation section you can reference, you can select it to be either slayer or thane and other major talents

[midnight bolt]

just checking it rn! ❤️ ty 🙂

[summer quail]

I like the infinite dot. Very buggy right now tho

[gilded pawn]

Tbh I think the infinite stacking dot is very cool

And it’s really not that much of a balance issue either

It’ll just be sad when mobs with 40 second bleed dying in m+

[violet condor]

is it good and whats buggy about it?

[frank dawn]

I'm not really sure you can balance a 40+ second DoT. That's useless in a vast majority of the game, just like juggernaut was in Legion

[violet condor]

dont talk about juggernaut

it was amazing

[frank dawn]

It was amazing on like 4 fights the entire expansion

dont at me

[violet condor]

but those 4 fights...

[gilded pawn]

In aoe you can always prio cb instead for burst

And in st you prio bb

Not too difficult

And it’s fine if RA is more st biased

[edgy widget]

to be fair though, you don't really need to when it's not a major damage contributor

prob with Juggernaut is the diff between 20 and 60 stacks was 20% of your damage, but the diff between a 20 and 40s Bloodbath is probably going to be more like 2% at most

[young swan]

the duration increase is a bit wonky and its not effected by mastery, avatar, or powerful enrage, so it just doesnt really do any damage

[upbeat plume]

I do too but it's one of those gimmicky things I fell they'll target for reasons but I also hope it stays too lol

[violet condor]

does it look like something we might use if its bugs are fixed

[young swan]

it also cant crit

[upbeat plume]

Not being affected by damage multipliers is for sure a bug

[young swan]

prob

[violet condor]

but in aoe were probably use AM right? 😄

[remote zephyr]

whats that .io website that shows rotations of top performing players?

[frank dawn]

that's fair I suppose. and I guess I don't really care if the dot does much damage or not.

[gilded pawn]

Lorggs shows how they use major cooldown

[young swan]

way too early to tell but AM seems better seeing as tho the dot cant be cleaved

[remote zephyr]

ye that one ty

[frank dawn]

the dot not cleaving def feels like an oversight

well, maybe. lol

[upbeat plume]

Eh it could be ass backwards way of there's to make am the aoe talent and ra st focused

But here's to hoping that's not there reasoning

[slim coral]

It’s almost time to start dooming with Dan

[upbeat plume]

We do a little dooming in this chat XD

[young swan]

hopefully we get some nice hotfixes over the course of the week and if not a big list of changes next week

[slim coral]

Yes tis tradition to have a little Dan crash out session

[upbeat plume]

Honestly if the fix everything the new ra and titans torment looks pretty fun to me

[slim coral]

Just throw in a rework for arms while we are wishlisting

[young swan]

titans torment is dead in the water

per archi, you get more BB's out from the extra duration on reck from zerkers than you do from the reduced CD

and the rage cost reduction is irrelevant since we're never struggling to press ramp

[slim coral]

Yeah I never understood the rage cost reduction

I don’t see what the goal was

[storm rune]

"Fury Warriors are currently constantly flooded with Rage which undermines rotational offensive decision-making and encourages constant dumping of Rage into Rampage..."

[violet condor]

hmm that sounds familiar

[upbeat plume]

Just means it might see changes if it's useless atm but conceptually I like it lol it does free up odyns to be a real cd as well

[humble plover]

they just need to admit they lost the plot

[violet condor]

oh right i forgot warrior use to have a tank spec

[slim coral]

I mean reck just generates too much rage during cds

[violet condor]

id rather flood than drown in rage dont say that plz

[slim coral]

So reducing ramp cost by 20 ain’t gonna fix it

[violet condor]

maybe it was suppos to increase rampage dmg by 20%

(not copeium)

[slim coral]

They just need to go back to work imo comeback with something else

[violet condor]

true

bring back oppurtunity strikes and og juggernaut

or bloodbath

[slim coral]

I mean they want bleeds to do damage but uh our bleeds tickle

[young swan]

yeah i dont have literally any faith in them after what they did to arms torments

[slim coral]

Atleast in the 3 times I ran the dungeon my bleeds did nothing

[young swan]

but them being able to do anything with OF is good

can give it real capstones now

[violet condor]

OF needs a like 75% dmg increae if there removing the 2nd one

and surely the tank nerfs are reverted right?

[young swan]

prob more like 50% at most

[slim coral]

I’m hoping so

[upbeat plume]

I'd love to see some work done me to our capstone talents feels bad that likenhalf of them right now are garbage but probably a pipe dream they've left depths a shit talent for a full expansion and a half afterall lol

[slim coral]

They gotta hard buff all bleeds though

One of the first changes I need to see for hope

[violet condor]

i remember seeing depths on DF beta and thinking surely thats gonna get buffed or change and here we are and its still the same bad talent

i cant think of any other class that just doesnt spend all its point on the bottom row it can

[upbeat plume]

Yep it'd annoying see changes and tuning passes and nothing getting done to so many dead talents at the bottom of the tree lol

[fossil reef]

if i got 2 weapons from my vault, is it still worth craftin a weapon?

[clever path]

the bottom of our tree has been kind of dead all xpac. like we can only take some of our capstones cause most of them are bad

i would love to see a full rework of capstones

[fossil reef]

oh wait weapons craft higher than the vault items right

[sullen dove]

myth track weapon goes to 639 crafted is 636

if you raid ascension embell offhand prolly the best

but 2 639s commonly used and better in m+

[clever path]

the reason we craft a weapon is for embell like sword said

[sullen dove]

but this my dmg diff to swap crafted weap to 639

[slim coral]

[sullen dove]

grain of salt not wearing any embells in here

so maybe gets close with 2 dawnthread or something

[slim coral]

Why no embellish

[sour tundra]

what slots do we craft gear on?

[sullen dove]

eh realized not hard to do double dawnthread too so gonna check dat

[slim coral]

Ok go check dat

[sullen dove]

silencio

eh not that big a diff tbh

maybe ascension is who cares

[slim coral]

Yeah next tier gonna be crazy tho

[sullen dove]

i mean its weird literally none of these embells scale with ilvl

when all of them did in df

[slim coral]

I don’t think crafted weapons will beat double cantrip

[sullen dove]

unless ascension gets buffed its not gonna be used

[slim coral]

Plus there’s a weapon in every dungeon but one

[hybrid karma]

is it worth over a hc transmitter for pushing?

[foggy pine]

still unlucky vault

[violet condor]

theres 2 cantrip weapons?

[willow cradle]

its cause your games in French smh

[hybrid karma]

[foggy pine]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-nine-nine-jake-peralta-tell-me-why-tell-me-why-gif-20063752

[summer quail]

2 from raid yes. 1 from delves or world content

[pallid wolf]

Are there any cantrip weapons in raid? Because I am not doing keys no matter how much you pay me.

[summer quail]

Bruh

[humble plover]

got my silken kill finally, i suck shit at that fight

[summer quail]

Read right above your message

[pallid wolf]

Yeah you know how replys work right, the oldest replys are higher up than your's was.

[tame wraith]

Yo what's the best way to find an active guild this days?

need ppl I can run dungeons with and have communication

[queen linden]

There's nobody playing right now except for the 1000 io pet collectors and title pushers.

[pallid wolf]

So anyways, is anyone got a recommend build for PTR? I am seeing close to a 20% nerf in DPS on the dummy versus live.

[tame wraith]

I'm only lvl 73,

not looking for high end content rn

[feral ivy]

mythic queen how many small spiders yall getting on yalls kill 3? or 4?

[feral ivy]

what does that mean "not locked in" lol

[sudden tusk]

\i parsed a 0 on my first kill dont worry about it lmao

[humble plover]

parses dont instantly "lock in"

[feral ivy]

oh

[sullen dove]

ungnadflox

[humble plover]

gives time for other people the gang shit it before giving me parse

[sullen dove]

this week is the silken kill week

for sure

[queen linden]

Had a 27 on my kill. Don't sweat it lol

A kill is a kill

[sullen dove]

i will accept no less than a 90 on my kill

[dapper goblet]

lets get a perma mute on bazed

[winter shoal]

We've been in p2 for 3 weeks now

[humble plover]

wasnt our 1st kill, just mine

[winter shoal]

I'm in hell

[violet condor]

does the gallytech limited edition mean anything or just flavor text?

[sudden tusk]

flavour

its like the fyrakk wep

also prob means unique

[violet condor]

if this is a strength weapon why does it have that reconfigure for spell casting mean?

special feature just for holy paladin or somethin?

[storm rune]

it turns into an int weapon

So anyone who can use a 2h mace ig

[short pivot]

Hi all, According to maxrool gg Mythic+ guide
Mark of Khardos and shard is better than Ara Sacbrood
is this correct?

whats the best way to Sim full overall damage dungeon instead of just single boss

[winter shoal]

Dungeon slice would probably be best, but also you can use both mark and sac

skarshard + sacbrood is probably best I think

If you don't have skarshard but do have mark, use that

don't use skarshard + mark

[short pivot]

currently i have Treacherous, Arakara, and mark of Khardos

wondering whats the best combo for Dungeon++

for raid its clear i think its treacherous and Ara Sacbrood

any way to sim this dungeon slice approach?

[storm rune]

Much of our aoe damage is derived from out ST rotation cleaving, so simming for ST is a somewhat decent measure, but I'll also throw in a 5min 5tar sim just to see how they'll perform on average with higher target count

[violet condor]

https://www.twitch.tv/3madox/clip/ComfortableGoodPenguinTBTacoRight-g4lcmXYvTO5y1Grg

what is the back this guy is wearing?

[storm rune]

@sudden tusk

[junior gale]

new patch item

[sudden tusk]

very rare cloak from new raid

[storm rune]

❤️

[winter shoal]

transmitter + sac or mark + sac probably, I don't like transmitter but it's probably best numerically - to sim dungeon slice you just select that in the sim options

[short pivot]

noted2 thanks a lot

[fiery harbor]

i wonder how long they've been waiting for the opportunity to name an item that

also 678? we are only increasing our item level by 39 this season? want DF much more or am i tripping

[remote yew]

anyone got a talent tree theyre using for ptr yet?

[edgy widget]

there aren't really any changes, just shuffling around
The 2nd point from Overwhelming Rage goes into Reinforced Plates now, and the standalone point that formerly went into Dual Wield Spec now goes into Uproar/Piercing Challenge

[violet condor]

theres like 5 very rare items next season its gonna take soo long to get fully bis

[edgy widget]

good thing there's dinar

[violet condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-skin-huh-ear-gif-6075541

oh?

[remote yew]

from reknown

[violet condor]

where was that posted

[edgy widget]

on wowhead.com

https://www.wowhead.com/news/dinars-return-as-new-rewards-in-gallagio-loyalty-raid-renown-track-355141

[violet condor]

i guess when would of been a better question

[remote yew]

few weeks ago

[junior gale]

before the holidays

in the big 11.1 info dump

[violet condor]

i wonder how long it will take to max that renown then

a portal to raid and 2 mythic dinar pieces

big

[junior gale]

wont be till late into the season

[red berry]

i really do wish fury bleeds actually did more lmao

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-shy-cute-girl-gif-14495627569314612221

[red berry]

agreed here

[outer umbra]

idk why tonight more than the last few resets but fury feels like im swinging around 2 wet noodles

[edgy widget]

Depending on our talent builds, and after Bloodbath gets a few bug fixes, I would expect Fury's bleeds to contribute upwards 10% in single target

Just right now, Roar + Gushing Wound combined are 7-8%, and that would be even higher if you were using Odyn's Fury on top

[red berry]

that's fair

[edgy widget]

The real question is what builds will look like; it seems like they're trying to position Reckless Abandon as the single target talent and Anger Management as the more multitarget one

However, RA having synergy with Thunderous Roar is at odds with Spear being the typical ST talent and Roar being the multitarget one

So there are still a few things to figure out, and I'm sure we'll see some tuning at some point that further shakes things up

[ivory laurel]

Is there a list of these bugs anywhere

[winter shoal]

Surely

[edgy widget]

not at current

I might make a public list down the road, but it's not really that important right now

[ivory laurel]

All good, just wanted to know if there was any that are significant or if they are all just small/minor

[edgy widget]

a mix, but it's also the first build, so there's not much expectation that everything will work perfectly

[ivory laurel]

Guess will find out when do testing

[edgy widget]

Bloodbath isn't being buffed by as many things as it should, not cleaving onto secondary targets, Arms 4p overwriting itself, Bloodborne's tooltip is incorrect; just a mix of stuff

[ivory laurel]

Yeah hopefully should be fixed soon, understandable it’s first build. Some classes stuff doesn’t work at all

[pallid wolf]

fucking hope so. Im losing 200-250k dps on PTR right now. Granted I copied and havent changed any talents or tried AM yet. I tried the new mythic track gear, and only picked up 170-200k over live.

[sullen dove]

there just cant be a way bloodbath is intended to build up a 10 minute long dot

just sounds so ass

[sudden tusk]

the dot is ass too

[pallid wolf]

No that is perhaps the dumbest thing I've ever heard since ever. Especially since that dot hits about as hard as a purse dog piddling on your leg.

[frank dawn]

fury deadge, melee deadge

[pallid wolf]

bruh I copied my shaman over, and lost over half my dps.

[frank dawn]

are we all boomkins now, is that the play

[storm rune]

fury may as well get rend at this point if it's just gonna be another bleed class again

[wheat oyster]

Please dont tell me boomie is doing well

[pallid wolf]

boomkins arent melee. I came here to punch stuff and yell at it till it dies. not shoot little spiffy laser beams from the sky.

[opal sapphire]

well... my boomy doing same or more overalls than my fury at 630 ilvl.... xd

if tanks pull properly its def the play!

[edgy widget]

I mean "intended" is a bold word - you're not really intended to keep it running for multiple minutes at a time, no

[sullen dove]

just like, it should pandemic like a normal dot no

not last for an obscene amount of time and be spammed

[ivory laurel]

They could make it ignite

[edgy widget]

I mean they could make it do a lot of things, but the intent is to add back some of the sustained damage lost from the previous version of RA

[pallid wolf]

the joys of being a raider, and not having to worry about tank pulls lining up with my CDs right.

[edgy widget]

it also reinforces using Bloodbath more, which is something we've been kind of lacking, and should give a little more weight to haste

[pallid wolf]

isn't haste already our 2nd best stat?

[edgy widget]

it starts strong and falls off quick

[pallid wolf]

yeah I've noticed that. I've been getting mastery vers simming higher for a while now

[ivory laurel]

Yeah I noticed it drops of a lot after a certain point and doesn’t maintain value

[sullen dove]

bb is like top 3 dmg and hit like every 4 globals no

[edgy widget]

at any rate, aside from UF (which I still don't think we'll use), there's not really any RNG with Bloodbath, so I don't see a particular problem with it

[pallid wolf]

Im down to like 27% haste now. Was up to 34 before circlet came out and I lost a good chunk to that.

[edgy widget]

Haste tends to start falling off around 20-24%

if you're up in the 30s, then it's probably among your lowest stat weight

[edgy widget]

Didn't say it didn't deal damage, but BB is routinely delayed for other abilities - the damage is just made back up in other areas

[pallid wolf]

I dont really mind pressing buttons in a slightly different order, I just dont want to take a huge right when the patch drops.

I already rerolled off DH because that class feels like ass to play. I dont wanna switch to hunter, or rogue. And I can't switch to paladin as my guild has like 16 of them

[edgy widget]

but that's also the old BB, where it's available after every Rampage - the new one is not

idk, obviously we don't have all the fine details worked out yet, and won't for several weeks, but I don't think Fury feels bad to play by any means

it's pretty consistently been considered to be one of the more fun and engaging (even if it's not the most technical) melee specs

[pallid wolf]

I was at one point. Down to 27% now. Got the circlet that knocked me down to like 30, crafted a vers/mast 636 ring, that got me down to 27. Im out of sparks now, and cant craft anything else until next week.

[opal sapphire]

I agree with this

Fury is very straightforward and somehow just keeps being entertaining

[pallid wolf]

smashing big hits, and yelling stuff to death is fun

[opal sapphire]

I thought at some point thats why they didnt want to make it a top tier spec for m+ as well, because no one would play anything else

[pallid wolf]

fury gets to yell stuff to death, yell at friens so they not die, yell at friends so they smack stuff more hard. yelling is good.

[edgy widget]

because it's engaging; it doesn't need to be particularly thought provoking or complicated, it's just a fun button mashing good time

which isn't to say it doens't have nuance; it obviously does, especially with the current (live) version of RA jumbling the rotation

[opal sapphire]

Ye makes sense. Idk when I rerolled to warr for the guild I did not expect to play fury and only fury pretty much for months. I didnt do any significant alts

[pallid wolf]

well, unless they give us a brez, heroism, or some other major group utility. Fury aint never gonna be a top tier M+ spec. Not unless we are crushing meters harder than Enhance is, because enhance has hero, group buff, and self rez.

[opal sapphire]

Only have a boomie now because I still have a dream of going for title even thoughj this season is the most scuffed ever

[edgy widget]

at any rate, I don't really see a problem with Bloodbath's extension - as long as the DoT doesn't isn't tuned to be so powerful that maximizing it eclipses all other concerns, it's really just backround damage - Rend, except frontloaded instead of pressed every 15s

[pallid wolf]

Paladins doing more damage than us, still a rather straight forward spec, and they have brez, utility, off healing, and cant just straight up ignore mechanics

[edgy widget]

that's a tuning problem, more so than a design one, but they're very unlikely to give Warriors any of that "major group utility"

but tuning in WoW is also a revolving door and after a certain amount of time in playing the game, you just gotta learn to accept that it's always going to have ups and downs

[pallid wolf]

yeah I know, thats why I am saying, for key pushing you aren't really taking warriors as a first pick

[edgy widget]

TBF, they're not taking Ret Paladins either

[pallid wolf]

No and they have a brez. so

[edgy widget]

so clearly Brez isn't guaranteeing them a spot or anything

[red berry]

what would you do to address AoE damage problems? if you have opinions on how you think you’d tackle disparities

[pallid wolf]

Respec to thane

[edgy widget]

what AoE damage problems?

[pallid wolf]

Thane crushes it in Sustained AOE

[red berry]

what night have been lost in translation of the new talents

[edgy widget]

Well, I'm not sure anything was lost yet

[pallid wolf]

Yeah, every single dps class I play needs tuning on PTR

[edgy widget]

it's a brand new patch, everything will need tuning regardless

[pallid wolf]

Fury (Both trees) SV (both trees, more so packleader) Havoc, Enhance, are all undertuned compared to Live right now

so we cant tell what it will be like when it goes live (yet)

[edgy widget]

We'll probably run AM over RA in Mythic+, but AM was already a viable option, so that's not really a major change

Likewise, OF will probably need some buffs or else it will fall out of favor again, but it was already neck and neck with VC, so not really a major performative change

[pallid wolf]

Enchance is fukt right now.

Like just broken

[summer quail]

Idk about that. AM Thane feels pretty good to me on ptr

[edgy widget]

PTR tuning is barely even worth considering right now tbh

[junior gale]

enhance usually enters ptr non functional these days

[pallid wolf]

lol

[edgy widget]

but rest assured, there will be some tuning as we get closer to release - that's how every patch works

[pallid wolf]

Thane feels better on AOE than Slayer. But im still loosing a consistent and noticeable amount of damage on the 5 target cleave dummy with a test duration of 2:30

[wheat oyster]

isnt dh getting a pretty decent change around with fel blade proccing inertia and momentum now?

[edgy widget]

Thane is better than Slayer in (sustained) multitarget

has been for quite some time

[pallid wolf]

Yes, it feels better to play (thank god) but they also gutted a key talent, and made mastery worthless (as it stands now for havoc). They took away a talent that made a lot of Havoc's damage scale directly with mastery, and replaced it with nothing.

Gave them DF s3 tier bonus as a new talent. But that doesnt interact with mastery at all.

[wheat oyster]

i was pretty close to switching from monk to dh but figured i was shooting myself in the foot not playing my main (warrior) of 6+ years

[edgy widget]

it's a video game, just play what you enjoy

[covert blaze]

i know it's giga early but do you have any thoughts on thane vs slayer in ST next season? do you feel like all the changes (synergy i guess, early to talk numbers probably) might benefit one of the hero talents more than the other?

[edgy widget]

people get so wrapped up in trivalities they often lose sight of that simple fact

[pallid wolf]

I didn't enjoy havoc anymore, thats why I rerolled off it.

[wheat oyster]

merely discussion points, i just thought fel blade proccing inertia would make havoc's rotation a lot more enjoyable at least

will say i tried warlock in mythic raid the other night and the playstyle between melee and range does not seem that distinct anymore

[pallid wolf]

I dont even have a than ST Build to compare. Slayer is fewer buttons, fewer keybinds, and I can focus on mechanics easier. So I only get to play thane on court and eggsucker.

[wintry smelt]

Rerolling is pain when declined from HC with 615 ilvl 🫡

[edgy widget]

Too early to tell - Thane has a little synergy with RA (if Burst of Power happens to proc during Reck) and Titan's Torment (which we probably won't play as it currently stands anyway), which might bring it up slightly but that's about it

[pallid wolf]

Its more fun to play. But damage was already lowwwww for raiding. And now its even lower.

[covert blaze]

makes sense

[edgy widget]

And now its even lower.
you need to get off this point - PTR tuning doesn't matter right now, it hasn't even started tuning yet

[covert blaze]

yeah talking numbers day 1 of the ptr is not the way to look at these things

[edgy widget]

"this change makes us worse!" means nothing when tuning hasn't happened; one simple aura or spell buff could completely flip that around

[pallid wolf]

haha right, I was getting declined on my main (started season late), and was like to hell with this, I will just go pug aotc and prove this RL doesnt know what they are talking about.

I mean I get everyone in my guild's HC group isn't doing purple parses. But when I have proven I can make purple and orange parses every season, telling me I need higher gear than what drops from Heroic raid to do heroic raid, is dumb.

[wheat oyster]

it's over (we're so back) it's truly over

[edgy widget]

that's just how pugging works - you're not being declined because you aren't good enough, you're being declined because there are better options out there

because there are virtually always more people signing up than there are spots to fill

[pallid wolf]

talking about DH Mastery, they can't tune that away. They removed a talent that made most of their damage scale directly of mastery, made mastery go from best stat, to a dead stat.

[edgy widget]

they absolutely can tune that away lmao

and I really don't give two flying fucks about DH

Hell, I don't even give one

[wheat oyster]

more like two gliding fucks

hehe

[edgy widget]

if they're like my raid, more like two falling fucks

[pallid wolf]

I mean if they just either double the amount of chaos damage from mastery, or double the coversion rate of mastery rating to mastery % sure, never in the history of history have they done a buff to mastery that large.

[edgy widget]

we were doing queen a few weeks ago, and our DH (who is supposed to pop the first melee circle) double jumped and glided right over it... and over the edge for good measure

[pallid wolf]

hell yeah. Ours just backflipped (vengeful retreat) right into the middle of the circle and popped it early.

[wheat oyster]

had the same on brood prog where he vengeful retreated over the big egg and ended up missing both

[wintry smelt]

Random people only care about ilvl and Rio. Never mind the fact I can whisper them mythic kills from DF and SL and been consistent 3-4k each season. But alas I’m making my own group lmao

[edgy widget]

I don't think you really have a strong grasp on the amount of tuning they've done in the past, but I can tell you with absolute certainty, they could easily tune that out

regardless, I really don't care about DH, nor am I interested in discussing them here in the Warrior Discord

[summer quail]

Idk, theyve buffed windwalker mastery by like 60% or something (value per stat) you never know what they might do

[pallid wolf]

well good news for you buddy. I wasnt talking talking to you. But since your admin. You can either do your job, or get fucked

[edgy widget]

people also have a tendancy to over embelish things - like "MASTERY IS DEAD" when it really just dropped from 6 DPS per point to 5 lmao

[summer quail]

This expansion alone by 60% (ww mastery)

[edgy widget]

Well first of all you were talking to me, you directly responded to me

But moreover, I don't really understand your weirdly aggressive comment, are you asking me to "do my job" as in mute/kick/ban you?

Cause I mean if that's what you want, I feel like there are easier ways to go about it

[wheat oyster]

demon hunter mains be like

[edgy widget]

all I said is I really don't care about the state of Demon Hunter Mastery, nor do I really think it has anything to do with Warriors

[wheat oyster]

purely a speculation question - do you think we'd still take martial prowess if it didn't lead to improved overpower or another significant talent?

[edgy widget]

You mean post-nerf? Eh idk, I think that talent still provides a lot of power over the course of a fight

just pretending it was standalone, I still think you'd take it in practically every build - especially with the upcoming Arms tier centered on OP (even as weak as it is)

[wheat oyster]

i wouldve liked the big overpower, hopefully there's enough movement to switch things around a bit, especially for tank tiers

[edgy widget]

Yeah idk, I think big Overpower could have been a fun moment

[wheat oyster]

coming from cata, it feels gross how often we press overpower in retail

[edgy widget]

as it is, the tier set works (once you get the initial buff going), but after that you don't really feel it

there's no "jackpot moment" to it

you just kinda play normally, especially since the buff isn't strong enough to really make OP a priority

[wheat oyster]

i wouldn't mind them buffing slam through tier sets, but unless they make it hit like a truck, i feel it's rudimentary especially in execute phase

[edgy widget]

I don't really want them to buff the damage, because that gets into the problem we had with Dragonflight - first Slam was better than Overpower, then Overpower was better than Slam

I don't like pressing it 3x in a row, because you got unlucky with Tactician procs, but making it stronger doesn't really help with that, it just means you end up ignoring the Tactician procs you do get

[wheat oyster]

i feel like over power buffing slam wouldnt thematically make sense in the class fantasy, but it would be a nice way of making slam feel somewhat belonging in the rotation

[eternal sundial]

A filler always has a reason to exist imo

And slamming is better than tcing for fill imo

[runic pine]

I think they should just make everything from arms hit hard and just go back to a more restrained rage economy

[eternal sundial]

How do you fix juggernaut feeling dogshit then

If u cant spam execute

[wheat oyster]

yea but there are still more talents for other classes that directly buff their fillers. for arms we just have barbaric training (which we don't even take in ST), and fervor which juices some priority damage in aoe

[runic pine]

what if....

[wheat oyster]

i wouldnt mind them bringing something back like off-gcd heroic strike, especially during pre-execute phase where we're sitting near capped rage

[runic pine]

the class had ramping rage gen

based on mob hp

idk

I didn't particularly mind not being able to constantly spam execute pre DF

[eternal sundial]

So it's not playable 65% of the bossfight

[eternal sundial]

S3 df arms

Spammed a fuck ton

[runic pine]

You and I have a different definition of "playable"

[runic pine]

see the "pre" before DF

[wheat oyster]

did you install ptr at least

[eternal sundial]

I just saw df in the sentance mb

[eternal sundial]

Ofc not

Im not touching wow anymore

[wheat oyster]

must be nice

i usually always drop .1 patches but this time im sticking around

[runic pine]

having to make sure you had rage to MS everytime it came off CD and doing charge weaving>current design imo

[eternal sundial]

SL arm good ye

Till banezi tierset

[runic pine]

even more so now that we have raidwide WFT

[eternal sundial]

Then weird

[wheat oyster]

charge weaving is the pinnacle of arms warrior

[eternal sundial]

Glad we all agree

I do want storm of swords back tho

[runic pine]

saaaaame

WW>cleave

[eternal sundial]

Fun to just wb ww and do a bazillion

[runic pine]

BIG WW massive

[wheat oyster]

i..........like cleave more than WW

[eternal sundial]

BIG ww into ss shenanigans for mass aoe was a neat mix

[runic pine]

big ww instead of spamming slam

[eternal sundial]

Cleave on CD i can accept but i liked semi short CD ww

To just press

[eternal sundial]

Ig ppl didnt like the extra keybind in st idk

But that's another issue

[wheat oyster]

oh you mean df SoS

[runic pine]

part of the problem with current arms is just that it doesn't spend the rage economy efficiently

I don't think I would be so preferential to pre-DF arms if it could

but being GCD locked pre execute doesn't feel great

[eternal sundial]

AM needs to die

[runic pine]

AM not the problem

[wheat oyster]

anger management is fantastic, pressing overpower back to back sucks

[runic pine]

nothing pre-execute feels great to press

currently

[eternal sundial]

AM is what killed sos imo

[runic pine]

not really

like we can say that

[eternal sundial]

Id gladly drop am for CDs that fuck harder

Damage profile is mad flat

[runic pine]

but the only reason it became so prevalent is because we don't have another efficient spender

same with us pressing IP when it contributed to AM

It's not the fact that we have AM, it's the fact that we can't spend the rage fast enough before execute phase

[wheat oyster]

make demolish consume rage!!!!!!

[eternal sundial]

Make demolish cease to exist

Redo the trees 🙏

Raid pov, m+ demo is fine

[wheat oyster]

aside from shockwave talent, i honestly thought colossus was gonna be raid talent, but makes sense with slayer being so strong

[runic pine]

Slayer owns

[wheat oyster]

most classes have a hero talent that leans to their theme and i thought colossus was for arms

but it sucks!!!!!!!!!!

[runic pine]

it doesn't suck in M+

or 2 target cleave

[eternal sundial]

Kill am
Kill juggernaut
Kill tom

[runic pine]

tbf

[wheat oyster]

yea it's good in M+ but i just wish it wasn't awful in raid

[runic pine]

It's good on court 🙂

[wheat oyster]

keeping juggernaut stacking throughout encounters feels like the only higher end skill expression arms has atm

[eternal sundial]

You mean slayer gamba

You can do everything correct and lose it at any point

[wheat oyster]

fits the theme of the goblin season

[unreal onyx]

Is there a date when .1 drops or nah? We still need to get CE

[eternal sundial]

Arms is prone to cringe RNG with ms crits anyways

[unreal onyx]

Roster boss diff

[eternal sundial]

Isnt it like march or smth

[unreal onyx]

idk

[cedar quartz]

if its like last time its not long after timeways ends so probs around march

[unreal onyx]

No CE this tier I guess

Any CE guild looking for a mid warrior?

[cedar quartz]

we're on platforms atm

[wheat oyster]

When does timeways start

[eternal sundial]

I think guild is in P2 3rd portals im not there anyways

The defo get it and then i tell em if i plan to play next ssn (no)

[cedar quartz]

im the only war in guild so ive seen 0 bench time this season

[unreal onyx]

Same

Except on a few bosses in reclear

[cedar quartz]

they asked me to swap to DK for court becuse we lacked grips so thats the only boss i didnt do on war

[unreal onyx]

I will stan woyer and if they ask me I just say no

[cedar quartz]

me zug won way or another

[unreal onyx]

I had a DH alt in SL and since then the only other alt I had was also a warrior

[cedar quartz]

my keys tank hates me cause i gear so many things ahaha

[unreal onyx]

I like the gear grind for 6 weeks on one char and then I just raidlog

Do some keys that are higher than 10 and then chill

[cedar quartz]

my SP randomly got higher IO than my war which is a meme

[unreal onyx]

My vault this week is completely empty, only thing I somewhat still would like is myth track sacbrood but thats optional

And I am not doing 4 keys just to not get it anyways

[eternal sundial]

Self bench to unsub >

[cedar quartz]

im unsubbing when i get CE and plunderstorm is out

[eternal sundial]

🙏

[unreal onyx]

This tier has been ultra-rough on our guild

Main-raid dissolved and remaining players merged with 2nd raid with some of the best players leaving the guild

So now we got a very mixed bag of players

[eternal sundial]

Unfortunate

[wheat oyster]

We formed a new team this season and i cant wait to rotate out the stinkers

People getting confused over what clockwise means for mythic princess prog

[unreal onyx]

I think there arent too many applicants to our guild since the trials we have are not that good or never even had CE

I just want CE and be done, ggwp cya next tier

[wheat oyster]

We’re stopping prog at silken court (only do 1 night a week atm), but gonna keep doing reclears to gear rerolls and alts

[eternal sundial]

rekill for mounts i think for us

Dont know if i sneak one in i stopped gearing a while ago so im like 632 xdd

[unreal onyx]

I gotta get a hc kill of some boss to get my last 2 missing charm thingys for raid buff

Which I am not looking forward to

[wheat oyster]

Do ulgrax on an alt

[wintry smelt]

Full heroic clear 635+ ONLY!!!!

[lament otter]

Will check logs

[wintry smelt]

Must be curved on 8 chars week 1 not boost

Description “ I’m a multi curve multi CE raider with 20 years of raiding knowledge PS: I’m on 547 alt rerolling”

[summer zephyr]

now there's trinket vendor on ptr - are there actually no 1.5m trinkets?

[sudden tusk]

there is 1

but its haste OR crit on activation

not lookin good

[compact knot]

there is a 3m one

its pretty decent

[wheat oyster]

there's a seaforium one too but it doesnt have a mythic ilvl for some reason

[sudden tusk]

the issue with that trinket i had when testing

[wheat oyster]

gives like 30 seconds of crit

[sudden tusk]

no it doesnt

it caps at 15

[wheat oyster]

i thought it was 15 seconds then extends to 30 on crits?

[sudden tusk]

so it pops then you crit like 20 times within 3 seconds

and it eats all the crits

and it only gets like 17 duration

tota

[wheat oyster]

even through reck window?

[sudden tusk]

yeah

[wheat oyster]

must be a bug then

[sudden tusk]

im saying every crit eats one of those duration procs

so you crit a shtiton very fast

its capped at 15 seconds rn

[wheat oyster]

i gotta read the tooltip again

[sudden tusk]

so you just reset it to 15, 15 times within 2 seconds and gain no real benefit

could be a trinket bug or something but i never got even close to 30

[wheat oyster]

this one yea?

[sudden tusk]

ya

[wheat oyster]

shouldnt be eating procs tf

[edgy widget]

Sounds like it just needs a short ICD

[wheat oyster]

i think it adds a second to the existing buff

i'll keep my eye on it

it does seem to work but my crit weight is stupid lowatm

[wintry smelt]

Made a custom BL sound. On FURY it hits different

Might cure my depression

[smoky vale]

mr depression rank 1

are you online on the ptr

🙂

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-undisputed-nope-funny-face-gif-14472008533385386835

[smoky vale]

[sudden tusk]

i am

[smoky vale]

[sudden tusk]

whqat do you need

gio

ohno

[smoky vale]

test 2 bis

one int and str

[sudden tusk]

yeah it works

[young swan]

wouldnt u like to know weather boy

[smoky vale]

XD

[smoky vale]

XDDDDDDDDD

thats all

ty

[sudden tusk]

the int one doesnt go on dc

cd

[radiant plank]

still not on mimiron

[smoky vale]

yeah

[radiant plank]

[sudden tusk]

and you just keep the buff up perma its weird

[smoky vale]

perma refresh cd

nonono its fury loot prio

[radiant plank]

[smoky vale]

[smoky vale]

ty xan 🙂

[young swan]

did u know theres an on use that does 3m damage with 0 cd

technically 10s cd but y

[smoky vale]

XD

its fine

i get 2x weapon loot prio

idc

[radiant plank]

like u are gonna play warrior even man

back to nike class

[smoky vale]

XDDDD

idk

if anything i go rogue or evoker

idk

maybe dk

[radiant plank]

back to nike class

uh looks good if u like sanlayn

if u like frost its uh oh

[smoky vale]

spam thingy

poggas

any news about outlaw

[radiant plank]

go ask them

[smoky vale]

anything that isnt skyhold is scary

[wintry smelt]

Fury chat cures my depression

[covert blaze]

holy

[smoky vale]

[young swan]

[covert blaze]

[smoky vale]

was just about to message you zhai

[fickle bluff]

[wintry smelt]

[smoky vale]

[tardy lark]

[tepid gorge]

Ok boys I pretty much been on an island most the day how’s fury looking In PTR we alive or dead

[young swan]

there are some kinks to iron out

[fickle bluff]

things dont work right now

[woeful pecan]

Hey guys, cant find a good aura in weakauras section for whirlwind tracker, does anyone have a good one?

[young swan]

to say the least

[smoky vale]

[tepid gorge]

Uh oh what kinda kinks… the kind that need to be worked out but bliz won’t or ones that might actually get fixed

[fickle bluff]

a bit of both

[tepid gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-rosenthal-friday-night-dinner-you-could-be-more-vague-gif-5942734

[fiery tide]

How is fury looking in season 2?

[fickle bluff]

bloodbath doesnt work with any modifiers currently, im sure thatll be fixed

[eternal sundial]

Madpogs

[smoky vale]

hi pookiee

[fickle bluff]

bloodbath dot doesnt cleave, intended currently

[young swan]

#updates-midnight

[fickle bluff]

titans torment is terrible, design issue

[young swan]

day 1 of ptr ask again in 2 months

[tepid gorge]

Yeah all subject to change

[radiant plank]

Hey guys, so in TWW S2 my guild will take a more serious approach to raiding and start progressing Heroic, so I need to prepare. Could you guys basically write down the entire rotation, for every single situation, two months before the patch comes out? I am a very serious player, and most definitely a min/maxer, so I need to know! Do we use Execute when the guy gets below 35% or what? Is it worth it? I am also a hardcore transmogger, so please tell me which racial is the best for fury? Oh and by the way, fury or arms in TWW s2? xD or is it too soon to say

[young swan]

xD

[clever belfry]

oh fuck i wanted to write the python script

that transplies a log into an ERT timer note

for every ability used

[smoky vale]

hi andaussy

[clever belfry]

meow.

[smoky vale]

meow

[young swan]

hes german not aussie

[smoky vale]

XD

that was a good one

[young swan]

thank u i am very smart and funny

[smoky vale]

how can we make a sign up fir 5 war keys

[radiant plank]

dont play on NA

[smoky vale]

we need more people

[smoky vale]

[covert blaze]

shit region

[smoky vale]

hi south american

[covert blaze]

[chrome plover]

[wintry smelt]

[bitter palm]

hi messi country

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/ankara-messi-gif-27265598

[tulip orchid]

someone cuold help me out with something? I had a ovinax mecurial egg trinket combined with the 603ilvl abyssal trap. Was doing good dps in dungeons, i got the transmitter in vault. Upgraded to 623ilvl and my dps dropped hard. I simmed and my dps should have increased by alot. Also thing to mention, i never used the abbysal trap. And with the transmitter, i used it almost on cd and still bad dps. I checked at the dummies right after. Tested it with the exact same time. With 623 transmitter 2.11m average dps and with the 603 abyssal trap 2.45m dps

How is that even possible? Its stated as a bis trinket almost everywhere, it sims way higher aswell and still my dps is pure shit on it

[radiant plank]

do u actually

complete the task

[tulip orchid]

yes xD

3x jump or collect the buff

[sudden tusk]

transmitter is weird and should be used before you use cds

so you get the buff then pop cds, since you might lose a lot of damage getting the buff while your cds are ticking

i do not use it and do not like it

[tulip orchid]

mhmm so best used when entering a fight or something

at start of rotation

[sudden tusk]

yeah so you pop it. get the buff then use CDs

[tulip orchid]

that seemed to work so far

but its really weird cous even when i was slowly moving to pick up the buff i never stopped atacking the dummies

[sonic shoal]

Yeah but if you pop roar and have Titan’s Torment (or whatever the name of the talent that casts OF when casting Avatar is) you were hitting it unbuffed by the trinket

And those are pretty heavy hitters

Plus your recklessness lasts 12 sec if not talented, so if you pop trinket after you would miss some globals with both up

[faint quiver]

transmitter is a sim trap imo. if your not familiar with using it, you'll either get yourself killed in a mechanic or just get lower dps.

[radiant plank]

Fury chat is the only place you will hear that transmitter is sim trap

[faint quiver]

btw incase you didnt know, its not just jump 3 times. theres collect and stand somewhere :S

[next ruin]

Weakaura template, pre made auras, icons, buffs, meat cleaver

[hoary agate]

Truee lol but kinda right, I'm missing globals trying to find this stupid orb under swirlies

Then you die to a frontal kek

[radiant plank]

always top right of your chara model

[hoary agate]

Yeah where tank is aiming frontal

[radiant plank]

you can

turn your chara model

[tulip rivet]

is fury feeling really weak right now?

[radiant plank]

so it spawns elsewhere

[hoary agate]

Tank be like, take the orb

[tulip orchid]

ah yeh ur right, i still did it tho hehe just forgot to mention

[hoary agate]

No? But compared to shaman yes lol but everything does

[chrome plover]

"sim trap" =/= skill issue

yes it will hinder you if you get yourself killed or dont use it well

but if you use it properly it performs the same as it does on sims

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-depression-rainbow-gif-10873944

[molten wing]

[slim coral]

#SaveFury

[icy estuary]

I have 12600 haste and almost anything I sim, it prefers vers over haste now...even suggesting recrafts, is it normal at this haste level?

[slim coral]

Just sim BiS gear

Whatever it tells you is BiS is bis

[icy estuary]

I am...even tried statweight, which raidbots is really against, still mastery>vers>haste

ok...thanks

[hardy bluff]

Yea seems normal

[icy estuary]

thanks

[sudden tusk]

anyone got the dungy weak aura that plays a noise when you get targetted by a spell

[hardy shuttle]

The website is brutally slow on mobile, but it usually pops up if you search Twicks he's the uploader

[sudden tusk]

yeah i think somethings wrong with the website rn having trouble using it

but ill see if i can find it ty

[radiant plank]

this one?

[charred scroll]

damn okay after testing the new RA it does feel like shit

what's the rotation when reck is up?

crushing blow, rampage and tblasts?

then blood bath when ravager is down

[sudden tusk]

yar that one

[radiant plank]

yar

[sudden tusk]

ty

[sour frigate]

only 2? amateur

[sonic shoal]

If you have a lot of 1 stat but almost none of the other, it’s usually normal that the other will be weighed more. We do as the robot says

[clever belfry]

real

@oblique trail i NEED ur logfiles

[hoary agate]

lol are you loading this into Kaze?

god damn that would be funny

[clever belfry]

you could absolutely load this into an ERT note

and it would load into kaze like this

and your screen would be unreadable af

but it is funny

kinda wanna do some doghist boss like bloodbound with this just to see how silly it is

hekili at home:

[clever belfry]

@young swan it has been done

[hoary agate]

Might as well just use hekili on fights without holds or phases

[fickle bluff]

simply load up a rank 1 log

congrats now you can rank 1 too

[clever belfry]

surely thats how that works

but yes this is the joke

thanks

[fickle bluff]

filter it to just cds though and theres some tech on your hands here

[fast mural]

That's just lorrgs with extra steps

[clever belfry]

lorrgs but u need the actual log file

[sour tundra]

what slots should fury put crafted gear in

[fickle bluff]

weapon wrist

[radiant plank]

clok

[modest hollow]

Change crafted for 639?

[hardy bluff]

sim it

can be better

[wintry smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-yoda-yodabirthday-gif-23229562

^^^ sim knows all it does

Sim gear compare one must do

[tender seal]

I cant imagine switching ONE of the 636 for a 639 (in mainhand) is not wort it, albeit you might have to switch a few gems/secondaries around.

[wintry smelt]

Trust higher ilvl, do not. You have to sim to find out what’s best however anything below 5% upgrade is worth it not.

[oblique trail]

Wdym sim it

A 639 weapon will beat a 636 crafted weapon in mainhand any day

[radiant plank]

639 bigger than 636

can anyone confirm

[hardy bluff]

i didnt check i just assumed he already had 1 639