#fury

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oblique trail
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To be fair

errant vessel
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and big slayer strikes

oblique trail
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My highest parse on Sikran is like 140k above my 2nd highest parse

clever belfry
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no rng involved

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just skill diff

oblique trail
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With AoE talents I did more damage than with ST talents and Cyrce's

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I simply just evolved as a player

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Fury just kinda poopie with RNG (and it's gonna get worse next tier..)

clever path
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yeah our tier next time is BAD

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even if the numbers are fine the idea behind it is so rank

sour tundra
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season 1 is turning out to be like 7+ months long is that typical length for a season?

clever path
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with how poorly tuned and how slow it was for them to fix it yeah. i think the length is about right

sour tundra
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that crazy long to basically have no new content

winter shoal
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3:05 feels real bad

oblique trail
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Well yeah

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I know the kill time diff

winter shoal
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I died on our Sikran reclear tho so I think I'm rocking a solid 8 or so

oblique trail
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That AoE talent parse was a single digit rank at the time

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It was more just the very silly case of how RNG Fury can be, being able to compete and beat a lot of people who use ST talents, through sheer RNG

dense sedge
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Hey guys had a bit of a break was playing slayer. Is there much difference in the play style with mountain thane rotationaly

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Obviously I know there’s no more reap the storm or marked for execution

inner shadow
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should i drop sudden death for dol ?

winter shoal
oblique trail
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I never used SD for Broodtwister, and instead DoI

oblique trail
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But they both serve the same purpose really

hardy bluff
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nothing else really changes

winter shoal
dense sedge
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Okay I thought as much but thought I’d ask. Thanks fellow bonkers

winter shoal
oblique trail
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Fury has quite a bit of RNG tied to it, through Slayer's Strikes alone

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But I don't think (I have not verified through sims) that Ashen has any real bearing on how much damage you do in ST

clever belfry
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if u dont drop it, it is better

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unsuprisingly

winter shoal
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I've simmed some stuff around SD usage (for the purpose of maintaining better AJ uptime and not wasting procs) and it was always within margin of error

oblique trail
clever belfry
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cause it lasts big time

winter shoal
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Yeah I think it only actually affects like 3 or 4 execute casts over a 5 min sim

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Idr the specifics

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Me when I spread misinformation instead of running the sims again

clever belfry
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its also quite far from trivial to add meaningful conditionals for this

oblique trail
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Admittedly this was my AJ uptime on the 1.7 mill dps parse

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So I can't argue against it!

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Must've been AJ

clever belfry
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dropped it

winter shoal
oblique trail
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Yeah gg

clever belfry
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wouldve been rank 0 without drop

winter shoal
clever belfry
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ehh to actually boost AJ uptime

lament otter
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Is void elf passive bugged? I no longer see it in my damage meter nor my logs

clever belfry
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youd have to make sure to delay a lot of exes

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in between

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depending on slayer strike counter

oblique trail
winter shoal
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And then in the APL it's pretty much the same, you just add "...|buff.sudden_death.remains<5" or whatever (official APL actually already has that, but with a 2s buffer)

clever belfry
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and we HATE slayer strike counter

oblique trail
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It doesn't directly do damage

warm crag
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thank you banezi for telling the blizzard developer to buff my racial!

lament otter
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Or did they just not bother updating the tooltip

winter shoal
lament otter
oblique trail
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The tooltip I don't think has been updated

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But it's just a straight damage buff with no added component

lament otter
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I see

oblique trail
oblique trail
warm crag
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Wtf!

clever belfry
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i think

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we should explode spongie

oblique trail
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Already on it

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I have cast living bomb

warm crag
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outrageously rude

clever belfry
warm crag
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i am remotely executing the devices in your homes

clever belfry
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ok mr israel

hardy bluff
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bomba

clever belfry
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me when my pager goes kabumm

oblique trail
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me when I throw ice lances

clever belfry
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is it glacial rn

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or is it IL

oblique trail
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Both

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iirc

clever belfry
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is it CS too

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and ray?

oblique trail
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I think yes

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I have not actually looked into the talents yet

warm crag
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outrageous

oblique trail
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Nvm storm is only on cleave

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No raying

covert blaze
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ray cringus

clever belfry
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love ray

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ray funny

clever path
sullen dove
oblique trail
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I'm all meow

sullen dove
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what does the fox say

oblique trail
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Melon

smoky vale
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hi ish

sudden tusk
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la creatura

smoky vale
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la madox

lament otter
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la gio

sullen dove
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alo

rain cloud
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max item lvl for ring this week?¿ i cant see the quest

hardy bluff
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its in the storm

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gotta do the weekly

rain cloud
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in the island¿?

hardy bluff
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in stranglethorn

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ofc on the isle

smoky vale
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i love stranglethron valeyu

sullen dove
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and yea gotta do weekly zone world quest thing

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like tickin the percent of rares and quests and events and shit

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then should appear on a goblin in normal island

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quest takes you to storm island

rain cloud
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Done, thanks all

whole yacht
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plat in marvel rivals in less thhan 12 hours

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this game is fun

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wrong discord it seems. but oh well. you guys get to know now too

warm crag
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diamond is fun when you can start banning hela hawkeye and luna

outer cedar
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In season 2 fury warrior is good or bad ? or.. same?

sterile dagger
oblique trail
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Fury will be:

meager void
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deep.

sinful spoke
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dk > warrior

warm crag
oblique trail
outer cedar
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Fury need buff... .... very sad...

oblique trail
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So true

sinful spoke
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why is 90% of the warrior discord weebs

meager void
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wow thats a lot

sinful spoke
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man these weapons are so cool

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if only we werent cucked by smf

summer quail
unique phoenix
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Sorry to bother anyone, bit of a dumb question.
Windsingers Citrine isn't worth it?
While for ST I run Thunderlord/Fathom/Legendary and for AOE I run Stormbringer/Fathom/Legendary?

meager void
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closet monk identified.

sinful spoke
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just run what sims the highest

unique phoenix
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Is there a dropdown menu for it or anything? Thank you Cheche

sinful spoke
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lemme shwo ya

oblique trail
sinful spoke
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these r the gems

unique phoenix
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OOp I see it! Thank you lol

oblique trail
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On ST they're basically equal between Stormbringer and Thunderlord (at current/lower ilvl), and should improve as ilvl increases, in favour of Thunderlord

unique phoenix
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I'm 638 ;_;

oblique trail
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Which is a good ilvl

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But when I mean as the ilvl increases, I'm talking about the ring specifically

unique phoenix
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Ahh gotcha

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All my sims are saying Fathom/Storm/Legendary, 7k ST increase and 47k for dungeon slice, thanks yall!

tepid gorge
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Hey if all you do is M+ what is the best crafted embellishments is it still ascendance?

oblique trail
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Ascendance is only if you primarily raid. If you focus on m+, you want 2x duskweave thread

sullen dove
sinful spoke
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cause im cool

sullen dove
restive glen
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Question, Im sitting at 27% Haste and 45% Mastery. How much Haste/Mast would I want to be at before it becomes less beneficial and Should try to include some crit and vers?

balmy shore
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🤖

snow edge
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Sim will answer that for you; you're not shooting for a specific number, your best combination of stats is unique to your setup

restive glen
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K. I’ll have to watch critcakes tutorial on how to sim properly

dapper goblet
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@sullen dove 5 dollars per emote

sullen dove
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idk why its still called that

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should be a forum to poll rename

dapper goblet
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blow up

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i made u

sullen dove
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better name would be baze

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:baze:

dapper goblet
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baze neesd to also blow up

sullen dove
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wheres he been

dapper goblet
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@slim coral blow up

left perch
dapper goblet
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anyways

left perch
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still yellow and wishing you were brown I see

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Congrats “wonka” on whatever that means

sinful spoke
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ive never seen this dog move

ornate sable
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Fighting rash, have leap selected, green circle visible and under cursor, spamming left click
-> not leaping
Know what's up?

summer quail
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just heroic leap being heroic leap

winter shoal
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Lots of platforms with the sort of lines across them like Rash around the bridge can break line of sight at certain angles

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Same thing with charging while on the ship in dawnbreaker

thick fossil
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3 14s left to go. NW, Stonevault, and Grimmy butthole

winter shoal
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there's a very slight z-axis in some places that breaks line of sight

smoky vale
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osaliske you are doing it

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!

thick fossil
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Trying to, certainly getting further than I thought. Only semi pugging these days.

smoky vale
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same

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atm im just tanking a few 12s to practice

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then do keys with guild

thick fossil
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I'm love to take the warrior's spot in my guild's team. lol. They're already 3200.

pallid wolf
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for silken court, thane or slayer?

sullen dove
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really either or whatever you prefer both seem fine enough

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r1 is thane r2 is slayer

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id say thane is more consistent cd timings vs banking on bladestorm coming up at certain times if that might become a struggle

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not sure how it exactly lines up but ik when im using thane cds like all the time every time

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and think has a little higher out of cds damage for most damage amp phases

left perch
smoky vale
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demon aug keys

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playing a class i havent played in month

sullen dove
summer quail
smoky vale
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trekgob barely does keys

summer quail
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Okok good

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Remove aug

smoky vale
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true

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but its sometimes fun

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to terrorize keys

winter shoal
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Swordish is your stream omega laggy or is it a skill issue on my part

smoky vale
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i legit show up to 12s

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might be botj

winter shoal
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Insane 144p gaming

smoky vale
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its so fun

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me when i do damage

sudden tusk
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smorbbish

smoky vale
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i want chance at mount

winter shoal
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You got me beyond fucked up

smoky vale
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any tmog enjoyers

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@left perch save me unc

compact knot
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swordish not lusting first p2 damage amp

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this is blasphemy

left perch
sullen dove
sullen dove
smoky vale
compact knot
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oh

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i swear it was after

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unless im missing something

sullen dove
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maybe a lil late

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but idk

left perch
sullen dove
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bit of shenanigans goin on

left perch
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mog

compact knot
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sounds like it lmao

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we killed it yesterday, i kinda cranked on my mage

smoky vale
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whats your bnet

compact knot
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im doing the same dps as them but my parse is a 97 instead of a 50

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how shit is arcane mage

smoky vale
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@sullen dove why arent you a skyhold streamer

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?

sullen dove
left perch
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im just doing

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10s on alt

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mog run?

smoky vale
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amir

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im in a group

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not full

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i add in a sec

left perch
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kk well

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i am in a 10 city

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can you tank it

smoky vale
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er

left perch
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also wtf

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you're american

smoky vale
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yes

left perch
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this whole time

smoky vale
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were you just confused by my demonic response times?

left perch
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i thought you were EUican

smoky vale
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lol

left perch
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just a cool chill guy

sour frigate
smoky vale
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the run just strarted

left perch
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im gonna

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do this 10

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then steal ur mog

smoky vale
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ok

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i have more characters

sullen dove
left perch
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how are peopke

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so r word

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about

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keys

sullen dove
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rapacious?

left perch
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yea

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that

fickle bluff
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rambunctious

left perch
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cyan spongie i will

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no no word you

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irl

fickle bluff
smoky vale
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@left perch i finished

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and you still dont have a tnak

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xd

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nvm

rigid stirrup
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When during p2 of mythic queen are yall blowing CDs?

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1st platform adds I assume?

smoky vale
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of 1

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all 2nd

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of 3

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for 2n

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use bs on wrest

rigid stirrup
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tyvm

left perch
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timed it ig

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but

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we should do some key chatting

smoky vale
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unc

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i need to go to sleep early

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inv me

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you are hiding

left perch
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I died

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In my bed

smoky vale
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despair

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we do keys tmorrow then

left perch
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Ok dope

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@covert blaze gonna come too

smoky vale
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@sullen dove

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too

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we need a healer sadly

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or we just go 5 war

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🙂

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@humble plover

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you donw?

humble plover
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uhh when

storm rune
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What dungeons could a 5 war comp run? sob would be out

eternal sundial
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Simply dont do above 10 or so

storm rune
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Yeah I was thinking 10s

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Just something like getting chain targeted by final siege boss might make the run a hassle

eternal sundial
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Dwarf and combat ress

summer crater
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Is our scaling really bad? Since both specs keep falling in both the mythic+ damage rankings and mythic raid rankings week after week

sudden tusk
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yeah its not great.

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Mastery can only do so much, and our CDs are just +damage

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and since they nerfed out CDs heavily so far its felt p bad

sullen dove
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14% dmg buff and 50k dps ring buff

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most fights with adds we excelled in are kinda just dying in 2 seconds to passive cleave

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think only ovinax really are we still sorta top dog

sudden tusk
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queen as well

sullen dove
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still easy to top rash too with right cd timings but its just unnecessary

sudden tusk
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but it doesnt matter at this point

sullen dove
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queen aint real far as im concerned

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will surely be there next week

sudden tusk
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they gutted P3 so hard

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i thought you killed court

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smorbbish

sullen dove
sudden tusk
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blorbsmish

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courtsmisth

sullen dove
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gmadblox

sudden tusk
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i wish i was a roblox

sudden tusk
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goodnightish

dense elbow
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Goodmorningish

hardy bluff
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gm bedge

supple scroll
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?How far behind is SMF compared to the titans grip builds? Asking because i plan on leveling my warrior soonish and ive got a ton of molten ironfoes at 584 but my best warbound 2h weapons are in the 570 range

dense elbow
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For leveling? Whatever is your highest ilvl at the time. Doesnt matter really. For when you get up there, you want to transition to Twohanders, diff is somewhere between 4-12% area, based on builds and what not.
If you want to play SMF all the way, you can and still complete your 10s in time and as the top DPS

warm crag
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Just make sure to set your lootspec to arms so more of the stuff you get are 2hs (at max level you should only get 2hs)

dense elbow
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(if you dont want to go SMF, then you keep it as Fury)

supple scroll
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thank you both ❤️

jade swan
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Hello All,

Quick question guys, how to deal with the soak at the 1st Boss in Mythic raid, please?

radiant plank
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Walk into it

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then walk away from the boss

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once close press leap or gate

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keep walking away

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charge in once it ends

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Or just dont soak it

jade swan
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this is what I am doing, but that soak takes sometime. I know it's minimum 6 players, but you never know who goes

hardy bluff
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1 does the first

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the second group does the 2nd

jade swan
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I know that, I've done the first 4 already, but with warrior, the soak gets hard pull even when I leaped.

eternal sundial
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Gate then leap

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Or vice versa

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Non bot Team and ur winning

jade swan
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then I must find a warlock in the raid to help with that for sure

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nothing changed for the raid talent in the websites guys, right? and which website should I look at to make sure if I may, please?

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(wowhead/icyviens/maxroll)

eternal sundial
jade swan
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Ty guys so much ❤️

frigid sinew
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And Buy the portal toy for the gate

civic bobcat
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guys, which bust macro do you use? I had problems with mine recently because sometimes my trinket doesn't come off the first time I press it.

coarse nest
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that would be why it seems like your macro isnt casting the trinket and cds together somtimes

lament otter
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/intervene

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I forgot the name

warm crag
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idk i just run and leap it you dont need any more

oblique trail
hardy bluff
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we had a priest get sucked in 3 times once 👍

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god gamer moves

radiant sentinel
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Rip

junior oyster
marble schooner
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rate my m+ spread

desert cloud
humble plover
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ayyyyo

narrow narwhal
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Not enough 10s

desert cloud
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yea

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if you're not a 10/10 then don't talk to me

smoky vale
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hi

molten night
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hello

desert cloud
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spreading facts

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and cheeks

high echo
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is it BT + 2x VC in instead of OF the way for more ST?

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havent kept up in a bit

modest condor
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yes

marble schooner
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aight nvm

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we getting 3kio this season lets goo

narrow narwhal
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That's not a 10 what are you doing

marble schooner
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oh fuck my bad

smoky vale
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surely mists is the easiest 5 warrior key

sour frigate
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I didnt have a single invite to a +14

marble schooner
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I have le friends okayge

sour frigate
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Well i have none

desert cloud
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le friends hck

sour frigate
desert cloud
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how much did u pay for that software

sour frigate
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M14 boost is like 13 euro now clueless

desert cloud
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wait what

sour frigate
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What

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14 is kinda low key and its being dead and end of a season

wispy thistle
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is our new 4pc worth anything? seems kinda bad

marble schooner
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its basically our 4pc from DF season 2 with extra steps kinda

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we got the crit talent alr

clever path
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its a bad tier imo. it has a flat chance to make you go an entire fight getting one buff and losing it if youre the unluckiest person alive

sullen dove
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s2 voters blow up

clever path
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if there isnt some kind of internal protection system

marble schooner
sullen dove
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real

marble schooner
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what about S1 voters tho

fickle bluff
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s1 is the real vote but blizzard would have been incapable of tuning it

clever path
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s1 could only have been tuned correctly if it increased execute damage by like 5 times lol

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and even then would have sucked compared to s3

smoky vale
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@sullen dove you dow for 5 warrior key 🙂

dapper goblet
gleaming talon
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If execute ever gets buffed ima go from 1900-2400 in a day

thick fossil
marble schooner
hardy bluff
thick fossil
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Oh, I mean, I did a 13 Dawn before I did any 12s. lol. It happens, as our biggest challenge is just getting invited.

smoky vale
lament otter
marble schooner
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I just hope I can get invited to the +12 that I have left to time to get 3kio and then piss off

thick fossil
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lol

hardy bluff
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just run your own keys

thick fossil
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Nah, make friends.

marble schooner
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the +14 mists was mine

thick fossil
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Timed 14 SoB, and CoT last night because I'm starting to form a team.

marble schooner
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it was a +15 but we were scared lmao

smoky vale
thick fossil
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15 sounds scary, but it really doesn't feel much different than 14s. Only healer checks are that much more deadly.

marble schooner
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13s feel the same as 12s

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like 11s do to 10s

sullen dove
sullen dove
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currently

smoky vale
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dox yourself right now!

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no ish key

meager gyro
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hey fellow daytime fappers 🎮
I see there were racial bonus adjustments.
So do I have to play vulpera now?

thick fossil
smoky vale
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we also need a mists

thick fossil
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I have a Mists 15....

smoky vale
thick fossil
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Lol

smoky vale
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i feel bad

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im going to try to get a mists

thick fossil
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Why Mists?

smoky vale
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least damage

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only time we actually take damage that we cant heal easily is trash after 2nd boss and 3rd boss aoe

thick fossil
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Yeah, yeah, you're right. No real healer checks in that place.

smoky vale
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and i will pull trash after 2nd boss like a psycho

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🙂

flat river
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if i was a warrior dev i would make some serious changes

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warrior lead dev*

clever belfry
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bro thinking we have more than a third of a dev

flat river
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i know we dont

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blizzard employees play mage and shaman

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thats it

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and paladin maybe

narrow narwhal
sullen dove
flat river
fickle bluff
marble schooner
humble plover
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buff warrior

sinful mantle
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Press buttons faster

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And also buff warrior

marble schooner
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its funny being in a big pull pulling 5-7m and then u see other classes doing like 15m

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but ngl gameplay this season is fun af

eternal sundial
marble schooner
eternal sundial
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imo that one is atrocious but im a hater

marble schooner
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I respect your opinion peepoHappy

humble plover
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respecting opinions is TIGHT

tired star
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quick question is it worth it to craft another 2 handed weapon 636...since i seem unlucky with myth track weapons or should i just hold on? cant really use my valor or crests atm

safe cradle
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Ya

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Unless your me and make the weapon and have it drop 2 days later

trim hound
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Weapon always drops right after you craft, so craft asap xan

safe cradle
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Yep it’s the cost of success

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Until you’re raid lead gives it to someone else 💀

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I would’ve cried

trim hound
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But yeah, at this point of the season you've got uncapped crests and so many crafting sparks there's no reason not to craft

safe cradle
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Yeah

opaque falcon
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Which is harder to play Fdk or enh shaman?

exotic root
safe cradle
opaque falcon
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Prob a lot of buttons lol

safe cradle
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Both better than fury anyway

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Sadge

smoky vale
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@thick fossil surely grim batol is a fine key

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🙂

storm rune
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Wait, is this for the 5 man war dungeon?

smoky vale
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how do i do that dungeon without a healer

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on bosses 1 and 2

hardy bluff
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you do not

smoky vale
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i need to

bitter palm
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doable

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but prot might not live

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clappa lives ez

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tested

hoary agate
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Giga leech gear top yourself between the slams warriorbrain

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  • new ring healing gems
storm rune
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Intervene rotation

lament otter
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dont intervene the tank like i did

dense elbow
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If 5 warriors intervene eachother in order, will the hit simply go the roundabout at higher and higher speeds, till the server crashes?

lament otter
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itll just rotate till the buff runs out and hit someone for billions of damage

storm rune
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Just run 5 prot

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and then you can just taunt rotation each buster

smoky vale
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thats no fun though

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i think maybe

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one arms is required

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so the prot can heal with second wind for a bit

lament otter
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I recall someone said on st to ignore Bloodbath to about 70% crit, that correct?

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and just send it with Rampage spam

smoky vale
#

uh

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i think we are at the point

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where you always ramp cb bb

lament otter
#

thats what im currently doing, but my overall dps feels low compared to other warriors on st

smoky vale
#

because of the bb buffs

lament otter
#

Sure

smoky vale
#

team we have a 12 cot and 11 gb

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what should we do

devout totem
#

whatever give u more rio

smoky vale
#

nono

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io is fake

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we need 5 warrior key

lament otter
#

120 more rating to 3k

smoky vale
#

holy

noble pebble
#

Hey guys, fury fun atm? Haven't played arms since legion but wanna try fury

broken hornet
#

Rotation feels great damage is kinda eeeh since rtwf nerfs

noble pebble
#

like bm level simplicity

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I think that's what held me back

covert blaze
#

it's more complex now

lament otter
#

Is it? It feels pretty simple

oblique trail
#

Fury is complicated if you want to make it, or simple if you don't care about the small optimisations

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"complicated"

marble schooner
#

it is pretty simple but has more moment to moment decision making than before (there used to be none)

oblique trail
#

There are things I've ignored the entire season basically, such as Opportunist, or not using BB during Reck and instead Ramp -> CB repeat

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Because it's very tiny optimisations that don't really amount to a noticeable gain on average

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You could however choose to do the above, and gain a very small amount of damage, but in turn also add complexity to the spec, however much that'd be to you

marble schooner
broken hornet
#

On the scale of sweaty to full zug: fury is zug

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Like 3rd or fourth from bottom

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In complexity

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Still really fun tho

oblique trail
#

I don't quite remember the specifics of it anymore, because it was such a minor thing

broken hornet
#

Honestly the only bad fury warriors I've run into (while not playing mine critcake ) was one guy with a 1 hand and two hand and a handful of players with the lower ilvl in the MH

marble schooner
frigid zealot
marble schooner
# broken hornet Still really fun tho

it's worth to point out that the difficulty for fury is actually maximizing uptime in raidfights and making the most of our reduced utility in M+ (like learning what you can taunt>reflect)

broken hornet
fickle bluff
arctic portal
#

is that an actual spec or is this fantasy furyball?

oblique trail
#

Sure

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That's a standard Thane M+ setup

ornate sable
#

Looks fine no?

oblique trail
#

You'd probably go Swift Strikes instead of Critical Thinking

ornate sable
#

I would never play that in a 5-8, but higher keys? sure

arctic portal
#

so odyn's fury is gone? i missed hat

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that*

oblique trail
#

It's a small AoE loss for more ST/Priority damage

thick fossil
#

Group comp and dungeon will make the choice.

oblique trail
#

Roughly (theoretically) a 2%~ gain and loss in both directions

thick fossil
#

If you need to do more boss damage, or low target dungeons, drop OF.

arctic portal
#

cool

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thanks guys 🙂

red berry
#

playing ret pally over fury

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feels goofy

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divine storm is a button

whole yacht
#

its the button

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of all time

arctic portal
#

ret pal is omega cool what you talking about 😄

red berry
#

i dont hate it

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i dont think specs are overly complicated any more but ret feels especially more simple

arctic portal
#

ret is the easiest spec by far, i actually think way more specs should be like ret. i see tons of enhancers doing aug damage and dont get me started on mages

red berry
#

that sort of skill issue for enh shaman feels so

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bizarre to me

arctic portal
#

is this personal preference? or is right one just way better?

oblique trail
#

Arguably the stamina node is just better

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The thunderblast node is proc reliant, where as you otherwise have a permanent 5% stamina, and you can use IV to increase your HP before a big hit to avoid potential oneshots on higher key levels

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(It also double dips if you do less than +12s to help with the heal absorb affix)

arctic portal
#

#

can i cast recklessness and avatar together or do i use the second when first runs out?

fickle bluff
#

together

arctic portal
#

sudden tusk
#

cooldowns together strong

summer quail
arctic portal
#

not playing titans torment 🙂

warm crag
#

still press them together they add duration

dim oar
#

how does vicious contempt work with meat cleaver? Do i have to tab target and use bloodthrist on adds below 35% hp or should i not care about it?

sudden tusk
#

your primary target will still take the most damage

dim oar
#

cool thx

arctic portal
#

before myth track weapons is ascension better even for m+ ?

modest condor
#

no

acoustic plinth
#

Having a tough time parsing well . Anyone willing to review logs with me? Came back after a long break ( lich king) and have had a lot to learn and parsing well and such has been a hurdle

thick fossil
orchid dagger
#

Ret's rotation is easier, but they have actual utility to use

modest condor
#

pvper moment

orchid dagger
#

I didn't say by much lmao

thick fossil
orchid dagger
#

I didn't say the balancing was the issue

smoky vale
#

@thick fossil does tomorrow work for 5 war key

orchid dagger
#

Fury is leaking spooge out its ass atm

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But let's not pretend that the statement wasn't about difficulty of playing, not its tuning

thick fossil
#

It's great for newbie players that want to get into things without having to put effort into it. That is absolute ass when it can easily out perform a vast majority of classes while asleep at the keyboard.

orchid dagger
#

Yeah but a good Ret spends the time sleeping on his rotation to BoP, HoJ, etc

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We ideally would be doing the same, but brown class ain't got shit

thick fossil
#

A good paladin will be busy doing about 6 other things. Yes, but HOW IS THAT BALANCED? It's not and it needs to change. Plain and simple.
Let the BM hunters and Ret Paladins be a thing, but fuck, tune them to be inline with the rest of classes.

summer quail
orchid dagger
thick fossil
#

What really pisses me off is the people suggesting more classes be like Ret Paladin.

summer quail
orchid dagger
#

also they've gone out of their way to make Rally a bad button

summer quail
#

rally is okay in raid, nothing special. in m+ tho holy fuk it's such a garbage button

modest condor
#

it wouldnt be so garbage if the cooldown wasnt 3 trashpacks and a bossfight

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10% max hp is a lot stronger than you think

modest condor
#

considering living is a matter of percentages at the highest keys

thick fossil
summer quail
#

i think it should get the darkness treatment. double effectiveness in m+, really surprised it didn't get it

thick fossil
wintry smelt
#

Dslice sucks

thick fossil
#

Dslice is ok, you just need to realize it's a trash pack (5 target - couple minutes) and a ST "boss" (1 target - couple minutes), slapped together for an overall.

wintry smelt
#

Sim ST and PW 5/10 target 30s/1min

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🧠

thick fossil
#

Why do two when 1 can show you the same?

wintry smelt
#

Dslice is just bad. Always has been. Script is dog

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Run ST cause you funnel

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And multi to see burst

thick fossil
#

I trust Archi, so I'll use Dslice for when I want to compare silly things like Crit thinking to swift strikes. Cause it's not something that requires "burst" test.

wintry smelt
#

Dslice script always been bad, for some classes it’s ok, some it’s not. But the general advice every season expansion is ST and Multi

smoky vale
#

@summer quail i have bad news

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i think aug is starting to click

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maybe i play it as an alt next tier

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🙂

summer quail
#

sad times when someone you know is ill

summer quail
smoky vale
#

more a than b

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but understanding how to play it makes the optimization fun

summer quail
#

coz understanding anything makes it a bit more fun. however for me there are tons of specs i understand but do not enjoy longterm. like fdk

wintry smelt
#

And never will i succumb to being a buff bitch aug

smoky vale
#

we might have to bring 1 frost dk

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bc @left perch doesnt have a fucking warrior

modest condor
#

ew

summer quail
wintry smelt
#

Constant tank kiting out of DnD got boring, that is when I hung up FDK and stayed Blood

thick fossil
#

wtf?

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@mod Check on that perhaps?

smoky vale
#

@young swan

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AYUDA

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HELP

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MODS

covert blaze
smoky vale
#

man

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i need people

#

unless we bring a 600 ilvl warrior

humble plover
#

powerful

marble schooner
#

wtf is this man

winter shoal
#

1.4% difference in AJ uptime on a 5m patchwerk

sullen dove
winter shoal
#

Me when I sweat furiously over a 0.1% dps improvement

sullen dove
#

so this is what just hit exe over rb a couple times

winter shoal
#

I guess it's within margin of error compared to baseline

winter shoal
#

Just so you don't waste the proc

sullen dove
#

guh

winter shoal
#

Personally I check for 6s rather than 2

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In case the exe gets parried to account for the cooldown

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But I'm also bad and washed so

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That "SD <2s remaining" condition was hit 9 times in a 5m sim, and exe casts were 32.5 vs 27.3 for ignoring SD entirely, RB casts were 56.25 vs 59.33

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So yeah that extra condition effectively amounts to pressing exe instead of RB ~3-5 times over 5 minutes

summer quail
#

My weakaura tells me to press coz of sd i press(st)

winter shoal
#

This is the way

summer quail
#

No thinking

winter shoal
#

Big fan of offloading as much mental energy as possible into weakauras

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So I can monkey brain and press the funny buttons when they light up

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And then still die to swirls on the ground because I'm bad and washed

compact knot
sour frigate
tulip rivet
#

What’s everyone running for m+, ravager or blade storm? (Mountain thane build)

hardy bluff
#

ravager

tired star
#

heya all quick question im running mostly 10 atm will be trying to go higher 😛 im running thane build for it but i dunno if its high enough for thane to gain t he most...should i stay thane for 10s or are they low enough that slayer is better?

hardy bluff
#

play what you enjoy in 10s

tired star
#

i enjoy trying to mid-max as much as i can 😛 prob not very good at it 😛 still tho im interested to hear what you all think 😛

foggy jacinth
#

For AOE do we want to be enraged before pressing avatar ?

oblique trail
#

If you're running Titans Torment and Odyns Fury, then you don't have to enrage before Avatar

lament otter
#

new banezi pfp?

oblique trail
#

And if you aren't, then it doesn't matter if you do right before or after Avatar, as long as you don't use a damaging CD unenraged

next ruin
#

Hello, I have not checked top keys since November. Are some people still doing slayer in the 0,1%? Thanks

hardy bluff
#

check them 👍

#

this is not google

next ruin
#

Ok big guy

hardy bluff
next ruin
left perch
#

@smoky vale if everyone hates my fdk I can also bring my main, which is enha

final birch
#

metaslave

chilly plume
#

#fury poppin off with the warriorbrain today

velvet canopy
dense elbow
#

Slayer blast in 12s as well, in 14s I kinda start to have to accept it is harder to justify the lower DPS. Difference doesn't really matter for this low tier content tho.
I can do 1.5-2m overalls in my Slayer build.
Thane is more consistent around 1.8-2.2
My allies are around 1-2m DPS
So you will find bigger swings depending on the team, than between the builds

#

As many have said: play what you enjoy the most peepoBlush

oblique trail
dense elbow
#

Titans Torment is soon gone, and shall Torment OF no longer erga

#

I am sure blizz will remember to buff baseline OF back up, now that it can't be doubled anymore in raid burst windows

#

The best change tho, is that with OF no longer giving avatar, you can now more freely send Bladestorm

#

Such a good change overall

twin glacier
#

What do you guys think, when does the next patch hit

velvet canopy
#

In 2025

modest condor
#

big if true

twin glacier
#

Early February?

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Or late February

left perch
#

dad

clever belfry
#

reroller EXPLODE

pulsar quest
#

Yooo can’t wait for next season with the warrior changed, SMF is looking 🔥 🔥 🔥!!!

#

I’ve already made the switch to get ready

desert cloud
desert cloud
#

If u wanna use 1h reroll to fdk

clever belfry
#

or outlaw

winter shoal
clever belfry
#

or enh

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or dh

#

theres plenty of dw 1h (no dagger) specs 👍

winter shoal
oblique trail
#

Consider playing it next reclear

winter shoal
#

Dagger warrior HOLY we back in Serpentshrine Cavern

oblique trail
#

I would do it, but alas I'm on mage duty next reclear

winter shoal
#

Ew ranged

#

Have you considered exploding instead

oblique trail
#

If I do then we don't have a mage buff next clear

winter shoal
#

Only nerds need mage buff

oblique trail
#

Said nerds also heal my character

winter shoal
#

Who even needs healing other than like priests and shamans

clever belfry
oblique trail
#

If the result is something rude, then I will ban you

clever belfry
#

please do

oblique trail
#

You have been warned :3

clever belfry
#

:3

winter shoal
#

Yellow privilege smh

clever belfry
#

joe biden

oblique trail
#

Banezimeowgussy

clever belfry
#

meowmeow indeed

oblique trail
#

Think it's too many characters for the name

clever belfry
#

i need speechbubble mod

#

12 is max

#

i think

#

So yes

oblique trail
#

I think this game is bad

#

Quite frankly

clever belfry
#

factual statement, milord

winter shoal
#

Based and true

left perch
boreal breach
#

this is a prob dumb question but does rampage hit with enrage or does it apply after the hit?

oblique trail
#

It enrages before any damage

fickle bluff
#

enrage's before

boreal breach
#

I see, makes sense. thanks 🙂

left perch
#

enrage's before

winter shoal
#

OF with titanic rage also enrages before its own damage

#

BT/BB proccing enrage do NOT enrage before their damage though

clever belfry
#

Me when the chance evaluation is in the wrong spot in the event queue

winter shoal
#

Me when I'm a blizzard developer

clever belfry
#

i explode

winter shoal
#

(I forgot to cherry-pick my hotfix commits from live servers into PTR)

clever belfry
#

cause domestic terrorists from skyhold put a bomb in my car

winter shoal
clever belfry
winter shoal
#

Me when I may be put on a watch list but it's worth it to shitpost in a discord for a class I don't play anymore

clever belfry
#

If you aren't on some list in 2025

#

have u lived

winter shoal
#

I would contend the following: yes

clever belfry
#

Wrong

winter shoal
#

Understandable, have a nice day'

clever belfry
#

i will, thanks

#

train journey about to be done then im going for dinner

dense elbow
#

From the context of "if you are not on a list", I dread what I will see if I scroll up critcake

#

gladge I will play it safe, leave that to others to explore

wintry smelt
#

I dont use it tho

desert cloud
#

Banezimala harris

sour tundra
#

do all the warriors play thane now in keys? or are there still some that play slayer

desert cloud
desert cloud
#

Still good

#

I think on a 17 maybe thane superior

#

But packs die fast even on a 15 at this point

dense elbow
#

Slayer do get easier punished by how things are pulled. While Thane is just... Flat profile, so always decent.
That is the main reason Thane should be recommended if anything. At the 17 level, the player themselves know better than 99.9% of anyone what works either way

modest condor
#

thane is definitely not a flat profile

#

it is still very bursty

winter shoal
static rock
#

Thane still has a lot of burst, just only with all CDs going

winter shoal
#

Granted they'd also benefit from reading a guide, and that's what they're frequently directed to do instead

#

But if it's just an alt and you don't really give a shit about reading all your spells and talents and APL and whatnot, why not use hekili

modest condor
#

the amount of people i've seen just sending their big buttons without being enraged proves that even the easiest thing can be hard for some people

winter shoal
#

charge > spear on opener kills me inside every time

wintry smelt
#

Hekili at max ilvl = 99 parse

#

Brainless behaviour

winter shoal
#

Kind of real

#

Depends on fight timer and mechanics

wintry smelt
#

Ignore mechs and just follow Hekili easiest 99 parse of your life

dense elbow
#

Doesn't most ppl play OF Thane tho, how they mucking that up?

winter shoal
wintry smelt
#

F knows, I dont know about hero talents

winter shoal
#

I followed hekili 100% of the time

warm crag
#

me when i hide the important context

winter shoal
#

This is all the context you need smile

sour frigate
dense elbow
#

Hey I got a ton of those keks
What metric that be this time around - bracketed I'll?

warm crag
#

manic episodes per pull

winter shoal
#

Me when I post heroic ilvl parses

warm crag
#

100th percentile

#

ya ok get a grip

#

spec no one played in that tier with a statistic no one cares about

dense elbow
#

Only real logs are healing logs purpleface

winter shoal
#

But also if I'm playing an alt in easy content, doesn't it make more sense to compare to other people playing their alts in easy content clueless

dense elbow
#

Does it give better logs for you? If so yes

winter shoal
#

Real

#

IME though, Hekili's efficacy is pretty variable between specs

wintry smelt
#

Hekili failed me here

winter shoal
#

It's actually extremely good for outlaw (at least the DF iteration of outlaw, haven't played it in TWW) and BM hunter

modest condor
wintry smelt
#

I tried it cause i play 10 specs

winter shoal
#

It seems to be kinda mid for most specs

#

And it's actively bad for some like fdk

wintry smelt
#

But now i know specs

winter shoal
#

Do most people play OF thane?

#

I've been a VC enjoyer since the bt buff months ago

modest condor
#

i play am slayer because that's my favourite playstyle of the different options we have right now

#

and im not doing high content anyway

dense elbow
#

Slayer here, in execute focus AM m+ build, because it plays so extremely well

winter shoal
modest condor
#

im not mythic raiding this tier bedge

oblique trail
#

AM Slayer outside of Broodtwister feels awful imo

#

Simply because of the fact that your BS and Reck perma desyncs unless you decide to play wrong

dense elbow
#

I really enjoy it, and it does more than good enough DPS. Ya can't stop the fun blizzdesign

modest condor
#

bs and reck desync as slayer anyway regardless of what you play

#

i just like the cdr playstyle of AM and i dont like our aoe enabler having a cooldown so no thane

oblique trail
#

Where as with AM you can fairly frequently have CDs only ready on their own

oblique trail
#

Though tbf, I'm also just by default a big hater of AM

#

So very biased

dense elbow
#

With AM I sit with the impression OF and BS always line up. No holding OF and you just get this really nice flow.
With massacre and SD you replace RB a lot with Exe - it just feels like how slayer is supposed to play as a concept

modest condor
#

i dont play OF

dense elbow
winter shoal
modest condor
#

my dps is still respectable, around 2mil in mists last week

#

which is more than enough to 3chest a +10

dense elbow
#

Ye, but, you don't have OF dam tho on screen

modest hollow
#

who is that stone dedicated to? :p

oblique trail
#

Ibelin

modest hollow
#

holy hell

oblique trail
#

There's a documentary about him on Netflix

modest hollow
#

ye, we live not far apart

next ruin
dense elbow
#

It is a "troll", but it do pump

#

I will share one soonish

next ruin
#

i used to play arms before in the season, it will be less troll no matter what

next ruin
dense elbow
#

Gotta log to get the one I been fiddlin' with

dense elbow
#

So ppl can scream at me

fickle bluff
#

man...

oblique trail
#

Going 2x VC instead of at least 1 point in BB is insane

#

When you have both Roar and OF

fickle bluff
#

dont even want to scream

#

just like

oblique trail
#

And also playing AM

fickle bluff
#

what the hell man

dense elbow
#

it does the job

fickle bluff
#

i know whats not doing a job

modest condor
#

no swift strikes is also a choice

fickle bluff
dense elbow
#

You really love them stacks up, and m+ got a ton of snipes

#

I highly recommend trying it, it plays different - and to me, feel like how Slayer was brewed up to be

flat river
#

Hold on guys im going to cook a fury reworked talent build and ill send it here let me cook

next ruin
oblique trail
#

I'm not talking about the AM pick in a vacuum

#

I'm talking about VC when you have AM

next ruin
#

you think ti's trash ?

dense elbow
#

(AM execute build)*

fickle bluff
oblique trail
#

I think that VC with AM over BB is a crime yes

gilded pawn
#

^

bitter palm
#

change anger management for onslaught

#

trust

dense elbow
#

I like the big numbers, ppl can sue

next ruin
#

not taking slaughtering strikes is also kinda weird na ?

dense elbow
#

Not in that build, you dont RB a lot

oblique trail
#

Well multiple things about the build is

#

But it's not made to be good evidently

fickle bluff
#

funkykitty is a renowned brain deficient thats not a good build

next ruin
#

how to pump with exec in m+, if possible

oblique trail
#

Well you don't

#

Execute doesn't do a lot of damage

dense elbow
#

Its not a good build, it is a troll build that is fun, but works

oblique trail
#

Even if you spec into it

bitter palm
dense elbow
#

el sigh

bitter palm
#

(i wish)

dense elbow
#

I already stated this

next ruin
bitter palm
#

play prot

oblique trail
#

The only time Execute does somewhat respectable damage, is if you have max AJ stacks, but even then it doesn't do a lot of damage

bitter palm
#

prot has big executes too i think

oblique trail
#

Compared to CB/BB which has no conditionals other than: Have you rampaged

bitter palm