#fury
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I know some may have never experienced being a fire mage outside of combustion
new ra makes you deal same damage as now...for 12 seconds, then you deal 50% less for 78
cool talent agree
My RL also said I wasn’t good enough at fury bc of Key DPS. I’m being petty and not offering a tank OS. And Slot Sim sounds fun
oh wait..yea it forgot it doesnt do anything outside reck now
or am i missing something
We need the random recklessness proc tier set 
uptime based spec, means they can't ask you to do mechanics too 😉
i think you have had the most out takes
i didnt mean it last 45 i meant its CD be 45 seconds
I have even seen or thought of to trigger people
basically what AM does
obviously just a joke anyways i do wish we could get perma AM again tho
I also do ST damage???? So that’s hype
Then 15 sec cd on AM w bloodlust
perma reck i mean.
What do you get? Double reck?
And it has 15-20 sec uptime
go on..
if you have perma reck you get balanced around perma reck
2 recks, one cooldown
well yea thats what we had all of DF
so you do damage as if you had no reck at all
like what bri
new RA would only make sence if it didnt share a node with am
am+new ra kinda cracked
but will not happen
Thats true
true
Ye and we weren’t getting invited as much into keys 
So BS ripping 3 bloodbaths back to back is worse for slayer how?
top logs on most fights last expac except the dreaded s3 has 100% recklessness uptime
it was glorious
It’s fucking SHIT
this really reminds me of arms blademasters torment rework
New RA plus AM plus old Unhinged that cleaved 
i know some people dont want perma reck i liked it tho
You’re the only one
perhaps
And you know what we say?
whats that
The exception confirms the rule
im just a simple warrior main whats that mean
why would you want to be balanced around 100% uptime on your cds
You and your reck and bl obsessions
that just means you have no cds
EXACTLY
I WANNA DO DAMAGE OUT OF MY CDS
i dont want STRONGER cds
eh guess i liked have no CD's
I want SUSTAINED DPS
isnt that funny that one guy wrote 'war bl' in this channel and this madness with 1k+ posts is still going

They are like 4-5
its a rough number i came up with out of nowhere
i find that hard to believe
theres a lot of posts for sure since that message

ive got 25 pages of messages
holy shit zen u have 400
Yeah in like 4 years
ive been here since SL
one excuse to another?
mhm
legion my beloved..
For typing in incomplete phrases
Oh yeah lemme get that 150% mortal strike buff with 2 SDs
That was fun eh?
fuckin hated thay
T
Only good thing was the artifact that applied colossus smash to everything
i wish i played arms in legion i hear its the last time that spec was good
legion classic hype?
Gentlemen, I seek your assitance. My st raid dmg is trash. I'm 625 ivl doing about 750-800k dps. I should be over a mill (I think). I'm clearly missing something. Ive read the guides I watched videos. What am I missing? Im running the wowhead st build. https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps
Am I just not keeping juggernaut up enough?
Wait on ST?
Yea
Let me know if theres someway I can submit myself to be judged
I come humbly just wanting to be better
You don’t have to do much apart keeping eye on your mark of execution and not overlapping sudden deaths procs
Can you check your enrage uptime?
how do I do that? logs?
Yes or details auras
How long fight lasted and how much time y had enrage for
Second is your rotation
You rampage crushing blow bloodbath raging blow rampage again
Use sudden death when u got x2 procs, and prio mark of execution for faster bladestorm
Enrage is quite low
63% enrage uptime? u gotta rampage before that falls off
Yes
should be around 100%
I dont get it i am pressing that more than anything
Post a log
Also when you do a raidbots sim, in the bottom you can find the rotation the sim used, you basically do about the same
Minus the executes cuz it’s proc based / stacks
does this link work? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/82135246
Why did u stop typing pedro
You don't necessarily need to do that RB before ramp depending on your rage situation
Also important to use exe to maintain your AJ uptime
i think im probably waiting too long on execute
Are you proccing transmitter properly?
sometimes not
okay thays also a big loss
I keep forgetting he said ST
i get too fired up sometimes and pop then get screwed by mechanics
i autopanned into slayer general
Hmm
Keep an eye on boss spell timeline
And use in downtime when he is autoing or something
@inner shadowmby look at a sikran log of theirs
trinket is like the last thing id check
I feel like uptime is probably one of my biggest problems
but im hitting the training dummy rn and still not hitting what I think I should be
idk about this opener
you also have 0 completed transmitter tasks
so you didnt really even use the trinket
also sim your weapon enchants
https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/talent-calc/warrior/fury/DAOBUUFUFRhIUIpUUBUAAAA
Just experimenting with the new talent tree - But are you meant to be able to take all 3 capstone abilities in the class tree
sure
But we can take spear without giving up thunderous words (Or just take the 45 Sec CD)
That was what I thought
speed set?
hmm better still not quite there tho
#449510248579858432 message those videos might be helpful for you
If not pls don't flame me
If he even used it i mean
its always rota
quick noob question: do you use the most possible amount of different gems to maximize the 0.15% crit chance effect per color or do you use the gems with "the best stats" currently for you?
simulations are so close to each other it feels like it does not matter
im gonna craft Ring of earthen craftmanship, what embellishment do i put on it?
think im gonna replace Umbriss brand, for the crafted ring
The only correct answer is to sim your character with the items you want to compare
If you are not willing to sim then do whatever you want
i have no clue how that sim is working
Worth learning if you care about optimizing
I’m sure you can browse YouTube for a general guide on how to use the tool
Or you pvp
Because you can't sim pvp
yeah you have no reason to take vanilla spear. it doesn't do much damage at all and it adds another ability when fury arguably wants to slam the curren buttons it has already more then anything
you'd lose to spend
uproar tho
im glad we have 45 second roar again, even if they nerfed words to compensate
granted i suppose that also counts the new RA bleed, so
Hoping the new RA cleaves it's definitely a gain. I don't think 30 down to 20 is that bad tbh
i cant imagine that it wouldnt
it seeks to buff us in what our niche is supposed to be - five targets
well idk if thats blizzard intention, 'seek' might not be accurate but
they hate us warriors
"we are happy with fury right now"
like that sentence frightens me
Yea we never know with blizzard. We get buffs to bt AOE in tier sets before and they intentionally make it main target only so
They're never above ruining a nice thing for us
Anyone beaten zek'vir? Ive got brann up to the fourties, im in hc raid gear
and im beating my face on a wall
Are there any resources I should be using besides wowhead?
healer brann, arrowhead, size enlarge, use slayer charge to clear dot, kick heal and only heal
yep
then it's just learning mechanics by heart
maybe i need to grind brann higher
brann is fairly useless anyways even at max
might just be a stam thing if you're doing everything right
ask it out for a blind date
Im going to *%#€ your @$&
I'm not the blind date
maybe? im not sure. i just use what the guides say
I did ?? at about your ilvl, it just takes a loooot of practice and a fair bit of luck
sometimes you just gotta go agane
if your dps is fine and you're killing eggs on time you can try swapping to the one where brann throws more potions at you
it'll make everything take longer though
im kinda struggling to take the even eggs
remember that you can spread out when you pick up brann potions to extend the hot
then you'd prob need the enlarge yeah
im just gonna log in and check my brann
you can cheese brann into giving you the food buff if you pull zek to the door, get meleed, then reset
or if you swap specs to drop to 0% mana- wait
porcelain rank 1/4, amorphous relice 4/4
okay yeah you want porcelain at 4
and if you have some spare gold put some magnificent jeweler's settings on your jewelry
^ theyre omega cheap rn
so how do i get the ranks up
ive done tons of bountifuls
it's a random drop from bountiful iirc
well thats annoying
lemme check something rq
yup just random drop from delves in general
I got my last couple from just doing zek on ? Mode
could try that, see if you get lucky
thats very unfair
but ok
thank u
doubt ill get this down by the next season of it, but might aswell try
Anyone knows when PTR for 11.1 is coming up?
January I think I read?
some time in the new year
thanks
since when do we not have to stand in champion's spear anymore?
Since TWW
Was a nice change and with the nerf to TRs add on talent will probably go back the default st pick, sadly for me but some folks like spear more lol
Spear was already the default ST pick
There is however a chance that due to the RA change that you'll use TR in ST
But remains to be seen
roar deez
@clever belfry meowdy
Roar pog
meowser
I'm all meow
Roar was very close to Spear previously, and now that it doesn't force Fury through Cruel, it should actually pick up a little bit of value even without considering the RA change
thank god, spear is so lame
roar enjoyers unite
That said, Spear itself probably still adds more value than Roar (again, without considering the RA change), since Uproar isn't all that strong for Fury
rawr
if they buff OF to compensate for the loss of the extra Titan's Torment cast though (or we end up playing AM), perhaps that will change
Watch them butcher us again cus the change on avatar will make it too good
did i cook
Kitty
go spear since we are not a cd based on st
but then it would only be the immediate spear dmg
the fuck is bloodbore for
bleed from reckless abandon
no you go both extra spear talents
copefully if they add it
you already do now
Chef
yes?
you are cooking
LCGIOPGH?

go up and see what archi said
im really hoping they buff back odyns fury again
Skull emoji
Warrior changes?!?!? DOOM i say DOOOM 
hey, so regarding the PTR post on class changes, if i understand well they nerf the class wwith a -3% bleed dmg overhaul and some more ?
We’re lucky there’s so much add padding in raid rn otherwise we’d be abysmal
@quartz tulip is your pally criteacake?
Time gating removed from citrines
Due to public outcry. But if we cry we get nerfed more
And if you got a problem with that you'll catch another too
Warrior is the most difficult class confirmed by the devs
Does anyone here actually feel that way? I've always felt like fury has been by far the easiest spec in the game to survive with.
have you played ret this season
Ret and DK are probably the best comparisons since both plate melee, and they’re better at living than we are
and we need utility.. lust ?
fury is def not easiest
I don't really feel like I've struggled as warrior to survive in encounters tbh
are they??? dude.. we need lust now!
Honestly good
Rally should really be a lust instead of whatever it is
That’s long over due
It’s real gimmicky to have to pull a pet out to lust and then dismiss it before doing rotation for optimal damage
I wanted to try out the mm hunter rework, the amount of m+ you need to do to gear is awful
they really ought to give us lust and just call it Battle Cry
Could try it out with the veteran gear thats available from Siren Isle
I like the fury/war tree changes so far, just need to see how it performs
and like rip prot war
Catch up is actually infinitely better now
the meta was releasing pet i think lol
if you dismiss lone wolf comes back slowly
but if you release you get all of lone wolf back
or something
i dont play hunter
I need these
Need a 2h chainsaw blade for fury
looks like an ork choppa
waaagh
During BL window on M+ specifically; I am having some issues where abilities are not registering after pressing. There is a noticeable delay and it’s driving me off the wall. Disregarding hardware/internet; is there any ideas you guys can offer? Should I cap fps, should I remove nividia reflex+boost setting, anything blatant I could be missing
https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-removing-timegating-on-all-citrine-gems-in-upcoming-hotfix-355213#comments
Did it already drop?
whats your world latency
yeah that honestly sounds like latency
I experience the same thing pretty often - my world latency is 25
Not by the looks of it
My latency is 23 both home and world
I’ve done 2 server transfers, currently playing on bleeding hallow
advice on bladestorm fury, do we hold for full burst or ok to use on OF only
or even just enrage
You use BS together with CDs if you have it, and together with OF if it's ready after 45 seconds
Slayer build? Ideally full cd's then with OF then with full cd's again
perfect thats what im doing but making sure thanks dudes
aye slayer, getting bored of thane
it feels smoother tbh
i might try, im just on meta slayer build atm
ew, reddit needs to remove that white background
@storm rune thanks I figured I’d ask because it only seems to happen during BL windows and then I go watch a noxiv stream and his seems fine
yeah, it seems to be an oddly sporadic issue
Guess it was wishful thinking I was unaffected by “whatever” those threads are specifying but maybe that’s not the case
i encountered some input lag playing outlaw in Vault, but after that ive not had any issues
It's always worth a try to test it out for yourself, even if the tests didn't resolve it for others it's a good thread for what you possibly can troubleshoot for. But yeah, something is wonky with the game currently
i would recommend playing with VPN but its risky cause blizz hates vpns
Thank you guys for some insight
Anytime!
prot channel is going to the dogs and fury is nothing but gentlemen, what a strange time to be online.
as always .. very active channel 24x7
i start believing that it is a kind of disorder 
me when prot is faster than fury
not for long it wont be
take that you overpowered as fuck paladins warriors
Can anyone tell me which gems we get this week from events and which we need to buy from the vendor?
The sim tells me which gems frop?
drop
How long did it take you guys to get the kyveza counterclock thing learned?
I feel like an idiot getting it wrong
"
The gems belonging to the goblins, Arathi, and Earthen should come from doing events on the isle that are started at the Siren Isle Command Map. After getting them once, you’ll be able to buy them and store them in your Warbank for your alts as usual.
The gems that belong to enemy factions should now be purchasable from Taljori, the Tortollan vendor sitting on the large rock behind Bargus.
"
This implies to me that some gems come from events, and some come from the vendor. I'm asking which gems come from which sources
Like 2 pulls, it took our ranged and healers about 200
Oh, my bad
0 pulls
i think its just pne of the 3 vendors that sel
rest havent been added yet right?
idk I literally didn't pull up to the island until this afternoon
idk if the hotfix is live yet either
not yet
sorry bigbowwl i was just thought you knew about the change
Seems like I'm the only one who actually read the blue post instead of the headline smh

Checks out with death rates
warrior has the highest death rate

I’d by lying if I said I didn’t die to ripping aggro on spiders on Broodtwister a lot during prog
Tank issue
Unironically
Your job is to destroy the adds asap, if you can't do that because the tanks aren't getting aggro, they need to sort their shit out
Evoker issue they didn’t want to buff timelessness
After they started doing that it was all good
Someone prolly walked into the office asking what the tier sets were so they could get shit moving before the holidays
And realized they are the only one still there working
Me at noon today
Saaaaaame
Because if the talent changes are bad they wanna make doubly sure to shoot us in the face
It truly is the worst one yet I think
Thematical I guess since it’s a goblin patch but like
….
its so boring and so bad
s3 voter karma
it was engineered in a lab
WARRIOR IS DEAD
xd?
Inb4 20% slam buff
Kill me
Anyone know when the patch to ungate the remaining citrines is gonna go live?
no
After looking into my crystal ball my answer is tomorrow
Weiners

Hopefully tomorrow! I’m waiting to do any of the island content until that’s out
i voted S1
S2
vote deez
Has anyone simmed the correct gems now that there all available
there is a patch right now that Im downloading, idk what it is but could be
Should be the hot fix for all gems to be available
You DAREAL one
Lmk when you get in?
Is there a soft cap on haste, is 35% too much ?
A great warrior once told me. Sim it.
Whats your other stats?
Im in, but cant really see any new gems at the vendor
I think they have to be unlocked first
not really, but yes
Ye thats how Im reading it too, so Im doing few events now but it doesnt say they will drop them
completed one and didnt get any at least
they really didnt tell us how other than "buy from the turtle vendor"
however hes not selling any other than week 1 one
ye kind of shit way to word it
but idk, they did say they are "working" on it
so there is no eta and might as well just come wednesday
nah should come before Tuesday since its a "hotfix"
hey i may be thinking too far ahead here, but the new Reckless Abandon seems to be a hefty nerf, as crushing blow and bloothbath are now only usable during Recklessness. Am i thinking this right?
All depends on the numbers really
i feel as the up time of crushing blow and bloodbath will be reaaly low..
the rider effects especially for bloodbath are intended to make up for it, but theres also epxected tuning to BB and CB as well since they are up less often
its gonna make us bursty and less sustain, which is weird because we were nerfed for the very same reason
our burst isnt gonna be in 3 gcds
thats the main difference
the burst is gonna be over about 12-16 seconds
remember they reworked titans torment
our instant 3 gcd burst got gutted
so your saying they will make BB and CB more powerful than now in the future updates?! i hope thats a promise blizzard will hold
this version of RA has been a thing for a long time
just left in dragonflight
if you want the sustained profile you can play AM
both exist
its within 1-2% of current RA
on st
its definitely viable
so if you want more burst you play RA else you play AM
Different question
If speced a s Mountain Thane and Anger Management the cooldowns of Ravenger and Recklessness will always align?! with the cooldown reduction?!
thane is already sustained, no need for AM
are the best gems for the ring for fury warrior written somewhere
yes this is true
they will align
What is the optimal rotation opener with mountain thane and ravager?
refer to wowhead
thanks for the clarification.
The wowhead just shows spear/bladestorm though
I can't help but feel Blizzard is going to screw up Warriors again with the start of season 2 and then try to fix it throughout the remainder of season 2, like they did during season 1 .. just hope that i'm wrong ㅠㅠ
hmm
3 minute
3m for a weaker trinket is crazy

might not be weaker with the damage proc if it hits BIG
i mean it does both
gives buff and does damage
we wont use it anyway though cause 3m
2.7mil nature damage per use is pretty big
i mean every other cd feels bad
bro idk
itll be good maybe not bis but good
3 mins is wild though but not the worst
we used 3min in df as well
well if you were a 2 min class it'd feel a lot worse
at least this lines up naturally
I'll take a 3 min over 2 min
What was the doti trinket called again? I used that for a few fights in s2, felt good
3m mirror
14 characters ... cant get these stup[id toys to do winter veil achievements
mirror of fractured tomorrows
meh mirror was annoying because if it procced haste on your opener it was effectively useless
50 50 to win the game
Got big boii zskarn parse with mirror
the gem hotfix isnt live yet is it?
no
10-4 lol
This from new raid?
They made it soloable
easily, with bandages
For non-healers
oh
poggies
Just finished Sun King a few minutes ago, and he got a buff at the start of the fight that healed 1% of his health per second. I never had to actually heal him. The first shadow spawned right at the beginning of the encounter, so I just DPS'd him and the other adds the entire time.
Basically this
Have solo'd it on my warrior a month ish ago without bringing bandages
poor goat
any idea when the hotfix for the citrines is coming ?
plausible deniability for being bottom dam
i was playing unholy that patch and it was giga busted
new gems are out
Can I see your build sir?
Did you just reply to a 5 year old message
Impressive
absolutely brilliant tbh
lmao
are gem guides on wowhead or icyveins?
.... Apparently yes I did
5 years. The man waited
that guy has a wife and 2 children by now
I was trying to find a message from the other day from someone who said they don't use DR currently in M+ and apparently that was not it lol
4 kids actually
11.1 arms instead of fury log in
mortal strike back on the menu and a much more interesting tier set
and fury becoming even more reliant on their cds
Not sure if it's more interesting, when there's a chance that it's optimal to just not press OP
until its super optimal to press op
because your op goes bonkers
instead of your two regular buttons being slightly better once in a while
Frankly I'm just not a fan at all of the new sets, in particular melee sets
Quick question, when I go to the vendor for citrine he only sells 3, do I have to do events to get the others?
They're inconsistent and punishes you for pressing your rotational buttons, on top of not really affecting your gameplay, where as the ranged sets are guaranteed to proc when you use your CDs, as well as adding to your gameplay
i havnt looked at all of them, but im just happy our sets are not like the frost mage set
"once in a while you do a big dmg proc"
yay
guys am i supposed to play warrior in 11.1 or warlock
yeah its through events
perhaps just play what you want to play 
Gem change is pog. One you can just buy before even doing map events. Guess it's because we did first weekly quest
i want to play monster hunter wilds
then there ya go
it is not out yet ..
Just available from vendor. I haven't even done an event yet
I also just did the event for stormbringer but because I didnt contribute to the event beforehand it didnt drop??
same, like 4/5 events gave me a gem
but stormbringer didn't drop
stormbringer gem bugged? killed the boss twice no gem?>
where did you get fathomdwellers at?
Just event
event
Every time you do an event and gem a gem. Next event will have a new gem
It'll be a random gem reward
Until you have all.
damn this man actually replied to talic
Is the abuse stat bug fixed btw?
Anyone else having a problem doign the caves and not getting gems?
yeah bunch of us not getting them
Like it says on the map you should get a gem for finishing the quest, but you dont get anything
stormbringer up to 3 kills now, no drop
they drop from all events or a certain one
they drop from the event that drops them on the table in the main base
stormbringer definitely bugged
Worked on my machine
first kill ?
Yup, i've done 5 now I think and they have all given a gem
what gems should we be using?
gotcha
can we go beyond 642 yet or is that next week? anyone know?
next week
The level is still weekly
5th kill stormbringer, still no drop
Stormbringer is just way ahead on both ST and AoE for me vs Thunderlord stats are king i guess. Even with Thunderlord being like 7% of my dmg on some dummy hitting
Yeah I've done like 8 or nine kills, without getting loot
Guildy has issue with bonus objective not completing as if he didn't hit the "boss" He left zone and came back and that seemed to work
I got my Fathomdweller after a 2nd attempt, but it was like 2 minutes after I finished the cave
I was hittin em, I guess I'll hearth and come back if it doesn't work this time
is the fathemdweller gem just not dropping for anyone else?
i got mine
Got all gems now
not dropping for me either
yeah, its not dropping for me, only 1 left. Did the event like 5 times now, tried leaving siren isles and coming back and its still not working
🤷♂️
Same, fathomdweller
buy them here
same
credit for the quest is bugged
yea somethings wrong
Can't add normal gem sockets to the ring
. Time for some rearranging
you can buy all gems from the vendors - you dont need to do the quests
you can buy all gems. If you have unlocked them
yeah I can't buy the fathom gem even though I've done the event 8 times
Some vendors defo did not have some gems until i did events. Other than Skipper one
yea so i was in party i dropped party fathom dropped when i left party
Guildy had issue with getting gems. He left isle and came back and the one that bugged for him dropped
Either that worked or he just got lucky shrug
Managed to get the gem i was missing by doing the event on an alt
seems to be just stormbringer though for some reason lol
I think its something to do with Shuddering Hollow itself, cant get it to work on any of my characters regardless of what gem im on
^
shuddering seems to be bugged, atleast on my server right now
stuck on "event complete" and wont reset
anyone know what gems we use for m plus
stormbringer on silken court and ovinax, thunderlords everything else?
the shuddering hollow objective disappears when the rare mob is at 30% hp consistently
how many gems in total
riiiight
For me Stormbringer just vastly outsims Thunderlord on both AoE and ST
same
yea just got stormbringer
Some mage was talking about the position of the boss being too close to the door when he dies and fucking up the event
just taunted him into mid and it dropped
got to kill it fast enough if it's the rock dude ur talking about
how do I get the Legendary Skipper's citrine?
buy it from vendor
Taljori
vendor
ty
That aint it, just tested. still removed the objective at like 40% hp or whatever
Just had it reset at 1% hp, the moment everyone was knocked back
is skippers really that good lmao
sims the best for fury and prot
Does this not proc on dummy?
Did 3 mins on dummy no procs
After removing ring and equiping it again it procs.
yea tlord is rly buggy
even if it sims higher for ur char, it's not worth using until its fixed
Naa. sims way worse. But wanted to try in dummies
weird. So after that fail I just hung around the entrance to the cave waiting for the next one to start, once the timer for excavation started I gave me the gem
so u got it by afk'ing near the entrance from one event to another?
im at the table to start that event and im putting in stuff for it
and it just flops to event complete
then clears the contribute bar
yeah, visually I saw the walls respawn and the timer started ticking, but like 5 seconds later they collapsed and I got completion
then they respawned like 10 seconds later again with the timer continuing the whole time
well got it to spawn waiting on timer see what happens
and bonus event went away
like clockwork
tanked in back, still nothing :<
We can't tell you yet
dog
Some are good
probably
Some aren't as much
I did the fathemdweller event 3 times now...anyone else having this problem?
friend got it first time same party
what?
being forced to go sudden death is awful with new talents if you've checked the calculator, it feels like we're simply getting less talent points
in aoe
I think the slap in the face is the reoccuring comment of "we think warriors are in a good place right now". So are many other classes that got pages of changes :<
i got it
i mean fury rly is in a good place numbers wise
rn
in raid, at least
not so much in dungeons
pvp?
im not saying it isn't, but it just seems like a poor excuse comment to say "we don't know what to do with this". Not to mention theres always changes that could be made
for example, odyns and onslaught, REALLY could use a massive buff
With the class talent changes I'm quite happy. RA changes are awesome, the avatar capstone change sounds fun as hell, I'm pretty positive about it overall tbh
Execute as well I guess
for the fathom gem "all other singing citrine effects are increased based on your total Mastery" that increased my stormbringer gem from 646 of every secondary stat to only 651???
RA changes might make us lose quite significant amount of ST though
onslaught for sure, useless ahhh ability
It's 559 -> 646 for me
that seems better weird i go from 646 to 651
OF with the torment change is also incredibly weak now. But they sort of insisted they were going to buff it
base is 559
believe that when you see it
But during reck we're gonna eat, CB>BB>Ramp repeat
I dunno why they don't just make onslaught siege breaker. Hit hard, and give the dmg bonus on primary target
Quite popular opinion is that Siegebreaker was just not a great button
For 12 sec, or 20 if you take Berserker's Torment... Doesn't sound that op
yea i agree, felt awkward as hell
but onslaught is worse
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They have to make it not Siegebreaker for it to be a good button
Well
"good"
Numerically it should be good
Considering the general state of our T3 talents
But personally I'd prefer to just not have it back
make siegebreaker deal bonus dmg to the main target, spread with whirlwind and make it either enrage us, hit rly hard by itself or give 30+ rage
then its worth taking in non ST situations
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yes
quick question do yall use the cursed or raident mastery enchant for rings
cuz onslaught itself has no value
just a croud source question
Radiant
Have never once used Cursed
ima assume partly to do with ilvl
maybe at max ilvl dmg proc more valuable tahn like 40 extra stat or whatever tf
well, the idea is onslaught would only be used in ST. They should also buff the shit out of odyns again without the torment now
storm is 5k more dps in ST for me with my ilvl
thx bb
onslaught has no value though ? You are already perma enraged in ST and you have multiple buffs synergizing with bloodthirst and raging blow, not with onslaught. All onslaught does is give u a quick rampage
its still decent damage
Possibly ye
right, but "spread with whirlwind" this is where you lost me. the idea of taking onslaught should be purely ST
also ring is simming less than both my 639 rings. might be just some sim shenanigans going on
I did try it a few mins on dummy. Almost never goes above 1% dmg currently
Yea, like go OF for AoE or Onslaught for ST
did you sim onslaught in ST ? did you actually check where it's used by the sim bot?
link the sim pls
Good to know.
@remote bobcat
yea the 658 proc is what matters
you simmed thunderlords in 5 target aoe
the ST proc citrine
yes bro its worse than ur rings
xdd
go sim stormbringers instead
i also hate that ur using queens mandate in a 5 target sim
do u not have any passive trink?
"We will untimegate your gems, but..."
"But the boss that gives the bis ones will be bugged."
I have a sac that I forget to equip/sim for
This is what I was doing nothing for
yea its a lil annoyin but just try not to let him charge out of the cave
psure thats the main issue with that one
tbh I've been using mad queens for higher keys on target mobs/bosses
i got his loot 2/3 times
I didn't get it like 6/6 times now
Yeah, he is by the entrance quite often
Will try
Running shadowbinding to give more mastery for ring or simply your best trinket? Haven't actually simmed it for ages on war
For me Thunderlord and Stormbringer is within margin of eachother on ST
Aah,
Can't say exactly at a glance what would cause one to be grossly ahead of the other, if they are for you
For me Strombringer is 5230 ST and 30k or something on AoE at current ilvls.
what does a "random citrine effect" even mean on the proc one
like of ones you have or literally any of em
only like a few of them are even procs no
the rest is just passive stat
so u can just randomly proc a heal
Yes
yarp
and thats better than highest secondary somehow
Or the tank shield
Yeah but how does it make sense with Stormbringer though which is just stats?
I just got my first one
And I took him deep in to the cavern, didn't let him charge to entrance
So it worked actually
wish me luck
I can go look but there's a chance it's only proc gems it can trigger
if fathom does drop, relog. did the trick for me
what does it do for stat ones
like they just last some amount of time i assume
Just stats
So you just get 150% of the static stats that you have?
doesnt rly say how long
short buff with those stats
imagine some stupid proc manipulation where we delete all gems we dont want procs of
I mean have they fixed that stat abuse yet?
Aka get as much mastery you can THEN equip ring
for procs / stats to just give more
no clue
skipper triggers all gems with a stat or direct effect
- stat gems give 15s buffs
- it doesn't proc War Queens or itself (obviously)
Ye just tested it rq on the dummy to double check
How’s ppls sims with the new gems?
ritual knife still outperforms my 639 sac in aoe, trinket is too hot to handle
Ritual Knife is really good in sustained AoE, especially in lower gear where the mastery isn't DR'd to hell
I used it for quite awhile
Ye it's suprisingly good. Still use it on my Ret
I wonder if it’s still better to go thunder dmg and the proc one and healing while in raid .. last night 4 ppl were doing 70k in ring dmg
It's 5500 above a sac of equa ilvl
so 3 of the gem effects are just healing/shield, and the rest is either procs of dmg or stats
and you just roll the dice on that being good over passive stats yea
can we get another ring from a vendor for another spec or nah
naw
Don't think so no, but you can easily remove and add gems
yeah just lazy
Don't we use pretty much same even for Arms/Tank?
Idk about prot
It is what it is
At least you don't have to go all the way to the isle to switch them out
14th fathom try wish me luck or something
2nd one worked for me, great
how is windsingers so bad
I keep killing rock boss that should drop fathomdwellers gem
but it wont drop
the fuck
It's bugged
Wasn't bugged for them
REEE
For me i could oddly just buy fathomdwellers from turtle lady
Before i even did events today after hotfix
If you read the notice board thing, "It's a chance to get" gem below
Took me about 5 tries to get Stormbringer's Runed citrine
yeah 2nding this I got it after I tanked him at the back of the room, and then I didn't get the actual rune until the event reset, I was just waiting outside
Weirdly enough didn't get the achievement, because I bought those 2
I mean he charges into the entrance everytime but even if he doesnt it still dont drop for me
i cri
I didn't get it for like 6-7 tries, then I tried tanking him in the back of the room, he didn't charge for the entrance and I got it
2 in a row, Stormbringer and Fathomdweller
Just killed the rock guy again.
First try.
I got it after a relog on the next event. dude went all over the place iirc
cant we buy the gems on our alts?
Yes
You gotta buy it on the char you got the gems on
Then send them through mail to the alt
..
but yea here real sim of only gems we might use everything else turned off https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4hjNB7DnZQhg7GDFCm9QF8
for me at least difference of thunderlord vs stormbringer at max ilvl is barely anything but thunder 2k better, but current ilvl stormbringer like 9k better oddly
then again the ring its replacing is only 626 so eh
even still 50k dps for the current ring from what i have is kinda nut no
3.3% off mickey mouse patch item
quite quizzical
but yea apparently windsingers is terrible and no one should use it
which is cool ig
0/16, if the rock rare mob charges into the tunnel initially, the objective immediately disappears
only 1 slot that may ever get swapped
yea for the 5th time someone needs to tank him in a wall
and stop letting him do that
or tell ppl to not stand in the tunnel
he prolly picks a random player
it's not a confirmed drop from the world bosses?
As in the first time seeing that particular gem available there.
that's generally how direct damage effects work, since stats scale your damage, whereas direct damage is scaled primarily by the item's ilevel

I do wish the damn ring would show you it's full stats on the mouse over tooltip.
0/17
im getting tired of this
fathomdweller bullshit
just let me buy the gem already
18th time's the charm 
1/18
we had a full 30 man group stand in the corner baiting the charge away from the tunnel.
pog
I got it now
seems u were right
But these dum dums were edgeing the entrance
just happy boss didnt charge them
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never forget the og
i was cleaning shit from my bank and putting it in void storage
and man the stat jump in just 2 xpacs is silly
rip gavel
best thing to ever grace the game
Won't lie, I still have mine in my bank somewhere. Still have my Legion weapons as well.


