#fury

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violet condor
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thunderthane?

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it looked promising to me

undone flower
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I know some may have never experienced being a fire mage outside of combustion

lethal dew
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new ra makes you deal same damage as now...for 12 seconds, then you deal 50% less for 78

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cool talent agree

verbal rivet
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My RL also said I wasn’t good enough at fury bc of Key DPS. I’m being petty and not offering a tank OS. And Slot Sim sounds fun

violet condor
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oh wait..yea it forgot it doesnt do anything outside reck now

lethal dew
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or am i missing something

inner shadow
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We need the random recklessness proc tier set keksquad

violet condor
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yea thats dog

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make reck a 45 seconds cd like it deserve to be

inner shadow
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Longer than bl

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My man

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You won my title

meager gyro
inner shadow
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i think you have had the most out takes

violet condor
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i didnt mean it last 45 i meant its CD be 45 seconds

inner shadow
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I have even seen or thought of to trigger people

violet condor
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basically what AM does

inner shadow
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Uhuh, play AM then

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If 45 sec on ra

violet condor
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obviously just a joke anyways i do wish we could get perma AM again tho

verbal rivet
inner shadow
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Then 15 sec cd on AM w bloodlust

violet condor
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perma reck i mean.

inner shadow
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What do you get? Double reck?

violet condor
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what?

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i..dont think you understood what i said

inner shadow
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If recklessness goes down to 45 seconds

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Yeah?

verbal rivet
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New RA also worse in Slayer

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We have to BS too

inner shadow
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And it has 15-20 sec uptime

violet condor
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go on..

inner shadow
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With AM and bloodlust

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You will get recklessness back before your reck ended

gilded pawn
meager gyro
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2 recks, one cooldown

violet condor
gilded pawn
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so you do damage as if you had no reck at all

inner shadow
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like what bri

lethal dew
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new RA would only make sence if it didnt share a node with am

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am+new ra kinda cracked

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but will not happen

violet condor
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true

inner shadow
fickle bluff
violet condor
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top logs on most fights last expac except the dreaded s3 has 100% recklessness uptime

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it was glorious

inner shadow
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It’s fucking SHIT

lethal dew
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this really reminds me of arms blademasters torment rework

inner zinc
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New RA plus AM plus old Unhinged that cleaved copium

lethal dew
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cool talent which you can never pick

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because other reasons

violet condor
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i know some people dont want perma reck i liked it tho

inner shadow
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You’re the only one

violet condor
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perhaps

inner shadow
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And you know what we say?

violet condor
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whats that

inner shadow
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The exception confirms the rule

violet condor
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im just a simple warrior main whats that mean

verbal rivet
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Make Reck like BoS

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Extend the burst window

gilded pawn
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why would you want to be balanced around 100% uptime on your cds

inner shadow
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You and your reck and bl obsessions

gilded pawn
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that just means you have no cds

inner shadow
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I WANNA DO DAMAGE OUT OF MY CDS

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i dont want STRONGER cds

violet condor
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eh guess i liked have no CD's

inner shadow
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I want SUSTAINED DPS

lethal dew
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isnt that funny that one guy wrote 'war bl' in this channel and this madness with 1k+ posts is still going

violet condor
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i have 1k posts?

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how do i check

lethal dew
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its a rough number i came up with out of nowhere

violet condor
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i find that hard to believe

lethal dew
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theres a lot of posts for sure since that message

inner shadow
violet condor
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ive got 25 pages of messages

inner shadow
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Bro

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forget ot

violet condor
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holy shit zen u have 400

inner shadow
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Yeah in like 4 years

violet condor
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ive been here since SL

inner shadow
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i also shitspam a lot

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I’ve been here since its creation

violet condor
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one excuse to another?

inner shadow
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lmao

violet condor
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mhm

inner shadow
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Back in Legion

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Where archi would shout at me

violet condor
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legion my beloved..

inner shadow
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For typing in incomplete phrases

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Oh yeah lemme get that 150% mortal strike buff with 2 SDs

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That was fun eh?

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fuckin hated thay

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T

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Only good thing was the artifact that applied colossus smash to everything

violet condor
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i wish i played arms in legion i hear its the last time that spec was good

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legion classic hype?

crisp blade
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Gentlemen, I seek your assitance. My st raid dmg is trash. I'm 625 ivl doing about 750-800k dps. I should be over a mill (I think). I'm clearly missing something. Ive read the guides I watched videos. What am I missing? Im running the wowhead st build. https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

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Am I just not keeping juggernaut up enough?

inner shadow
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Wait on ST?

crisp blade
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Yea

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Let me know if theres someway I can submit myself to be judged

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I come humbly just wanting to be better

inner shadow
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You don’t have to do much apart keeping eye on your mark of execution and not overlapping sudden deaths procs

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Can you check your enrage uptime?

crisp blade
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how do I do that? logs?

inner shadow
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Yes or details auras

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How long fight lasted and how much time y had enrage for

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Second is your rotation

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You rampage crushing blow bloodbath raging blow rampage again

gilded pawn
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link a riad log

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raid log

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we'll figure it out

crisp blade
inner shadow
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Use sudden death when u got x2 procs, and prio mark of execution for faster bladestorm

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Enrage is quite low

crisp blade
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so not enough rampage

violet condor
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63% enrage uptime? u gotta rampage before that falls off

inner shadow
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Yes

violet condor
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should be around 100%

crisp blade
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I dont get it i am pressing that more than anything

inner shadow
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Like your rampage should be at least 90%

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Sometikes y get unlucky mecha

inner shadow
crisp blade
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kk

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sec

inner shadow
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Also when you do a raidbots sim, in the bottom you can find the rotation the sim used, you basically do about the same

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Minus the executes cuz it’s proc based / stacks

crisp blade
inner shadow
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Why did u stop typing pedro

winter shoal
winter shoal
crisp blade
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i think im probably waiting too long on execute

inner shadow
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Are you proccing transmitter properly?

crisp blade
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sometimes not

inner shadow
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okay thays also a big loss

inner shadow
crisp blade
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i get too fired up sometimes and pop then get screwed by mechanics

inner shadow
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i autopanned into slayer general

inner shadow
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Keep an eye on boss spell timeline

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And use in downtime when he is autoing or something

eternal sundial
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@inner shadowmby look at a sikran log of theirs

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trinket is like the last thing id check

crisp blade
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I feel like uptime is probably one of my biggest problems

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but im hitting the training dummy rn and still not hitting what I think I should be

radiant plank
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idk about this opener

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you also have 0 completed transmitter tasks

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so you didnt really even use the trinket

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also sim your weapon enchants

red peak
radiant plank
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sure

red peak
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But we can take spear without giving up thunderous words (Or just take the 45 Sec CD)

lethal dew
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yea but raw spear is so bad

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uproar definetly wins there

red peak
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That was what I thought

meager gyro
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I'm unstopable now

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y'all don't even know

violet condor
crisp blade
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hmm better still not quite there tho

winter shoal
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If not pls don't flame me

crisp blade
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lol I won't

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Im the one here to be flamed

inner shadow
eternal sundial
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highest prio is rota not items

gilded pawn
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its always rota

peak knoll
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quick noob question: do you use the most possible amount of different gems to maximize the 0.15% crit chance effect per color or do you use the gems with "the best stats" currently for you?

gilded pawn
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for most people the 0.15% crit damage is not worth it

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sim

peak knoll
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simulations are so close to each other it feels like it does not matter

modest hollow
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im gonna craft Ring of earthen craftmanship, what embellishment do i put on it?

smoky vale
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what the robot says to

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we have 0 clue what your gear is

modest hollow
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think im gonna replace Umbriss brand, for the crafted ring

coarse nest
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The only correct answer is to sim your character with the items you want to compare

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If you are not willing to sim then do whatever you want

modest hollow
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i have no clue how that sim is working

coarse nest
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Worth learning if you care about optimizing

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I’m sure you can browse YouTube for a general guide on how to use the tool

orchid dagger
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Because you can't sim pvp

red berry
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yeah you have no reason to take vanilla spear. it doesn't do much damage at all and it adds another ability when fury arguably wants to slam the curren buttons it has already more then anything

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you'd lose to spend

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uproar tho

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im glad we have 45 second roar again, even if they nerfed words to compensate

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granted i suppose that also counts the new RA bleed, so

humble plover
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Hoping the new RA cleaves it's definitely a gain. I don't think 30 down to 20 is that bad tbh

red berry
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i cant imagine that it wouldnt

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it seeks to buff us in what our niche is supposed to be - five targets

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well idk if thats blizzard intention, 'seek' might not be accurate but

cerulean cradle
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they hate us warriors

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"we are happy with fury right now"

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like that sentence frightens me

humble plover
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Yea we never know with blizzard. We get buffs to bt AOE in tier sets before and they intentionally make it main target only so

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They're never above ruining a nice thing for us

hybrid dawn
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Anyone beaten zek'vir? Ive got brann up to the fourties, im in hc raid gear

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and im beating my face on a wall

upbeat narwhal
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Are there any resources I should be using besides wowhead?

grave lark
hybrid dawn
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yep

grave lark
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then it's just learning mechanics by heart

hybrid dawn
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save cds for eggs

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i get to roughly 60% hp

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and explode from too much damage

grave lark
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can get unlucky and get crit twice in a row

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we go agane

hybrid dawn
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maybe i need to grind brann higher

grave lark
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brann is fairly useless anyways even at max

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might just be a stam thing if you're doing everything right

sinful spoke
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Guys do we have a date for 11.1? I forgot

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And i dont wanna look it up

grave lark
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ask it out for a blind date

sinful spoke
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Im going to *%#€ your @$&

grave lark
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I'm not the blind date

hybrid dawn
grave lark
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I did ?? at about your ilvl, it just takes a loooot of practice and a fair bit of luck

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sometimes you just gotta go agane

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if your dps is fine and you're killing eggs on time you can try swapping to the one where brann throws more potions at you

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it'll make everything take longer though

hybrid dawn
grave lark
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remember that you can spread out when you pick up brann potions to extend the hot

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then you'd prob need the enlarge yeah

hybrid dawn
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im just gonna log in and check my brann

grave lark
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you can cheese brann into giving you the food buff if you pull zek to the door, get meleed, then reset

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or if you swap specs to drop to 0% mana- wait

hybrid dawn
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porcelain rank 1/4, amorphous relice 4/4

grave lark
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okay yeah you want porcelain at 4

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and if you have some spare gold put some magnificent jeweler's settings on your jewelry

winter shoal
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^ theyre omega cheap rn

hybrid dawn
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ive done tons of bountifuls

grave lark
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it's a random drop from bountiful iirc

hybrid dawn
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well thats annoying

grave lark
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lemme check something rq

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yup just random drop from delves in general

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I got my last couple from just doing zek on ? Mode

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could try that, see if you get lucky

hybrid dawn
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thats very unfair

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but ok

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thank u

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doubt ill get this down by the next season of it, but might aswell try

short silo
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Anyone knows when PTR for 11.1 is coming up?

coarse nest
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January I think I read?

young swan
short silo
meager gyro
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since when do we not have to stand in champion's spear anymore?

oblique trail
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Since TWW

upbeat plume
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Was a nice change and with the nerf to TRs add on talent will probably go back the default st pick, sadly for me but some folks like spear more lol

oblique trail
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Spear was already the default ST pick

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There is however a chance that due to the RA change that you'll use TR in ST

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But remains to be seen

clever belfry
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roar deez

oblique trail
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@clever belfry meowdy

humble plover
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Roar pog

clever belfry
oblique trail
edgy widget
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Roar was very close to Spear previously, and now that it doesn't force Fury through Cruel, it should actually pick up a little bit of value even without considering the RA change

flat river
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roar enjoyers unite

edgy widget
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That said, Spear itself probably still adds more value than Roar (again, without considering the RA change), since Uproar isn't all that strong for Fury

clever belfry
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rawr

edgy widget
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if they buff OF to compensate for the loss of the extra Titan's Torment cast though (or we end up playing AM), perhaps that will change

formal ravine
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Watch them butcher us again cus the change on avatar will make it too good

flat river
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did i cook

compact siren
formal ravine
flat river
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but then it would only be the immediate spear dmg

clever belfry
flat river
formal ravine
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no you go both extra spear talents

flat river
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copefully if they add it

formal ravine
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you already do now

compact siren
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Chef

clever belfry
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cope

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@compact siren firma

flat river
compact siren
compact siren
flat river
flat river
red berry
clever belfry
forest owl
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Warrior changes?!?!? DOOM i say DOOOM clueless

haughty wadi
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hey, so regarding the PTR post on class changes, if i understand well they nerf the class wwith a -3% bleed dmg overhaul and some more ?

safe cradle
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We’re lucky there’s so much add padding in raid rn otherwise we’d be abysmal

wheat estuary
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@quartz tulip is your pally criteacake?

restive edge
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Time gating removed from citrines

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Due to public outcry. But if we cry we get nerfed more

humble plover
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And if you got a problem with that you'll catch another too

outer umbra
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Warrior is the most difficult class confirmed by the devs

crisp coral
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Does anyone here actually feel that way? I've always felt like fury has been by far the easiest spec in the game to survive with.

covert blaze
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have you played ret this season

coarse nest
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Ret and DK are probably the best comparisons since both plate melee, and they’re better at living than we are

ornate gust
gilded pawn
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fury is def not easiest

lament otter
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I don't really feel like I've struggled as warrior to survive in encounters tbh

lament otter
ornate gust
lament otter
coarse nest
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Honestly good

crisp coral
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Rally should really be a lust instead of whatever it is

coarse nest
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That’s long over due

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It’s real gimmicky to have to pull a pet out to lust and then dismiss it before doing rotation for optimal damage

covert blaze
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better late than never tho

sly crane
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I wanted to try out the mm hunter rework, the amount of m+ you need to do to gear is awful

candid falcon
lament otter
sly crane
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I like the fury/war tree changes so far, just need to see how it performs

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and like rip prot war

jolly mist
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does any1 know when the hotfix is out?

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or if its out

coarse nest
gilded pawn
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if you dismiss lone wolf comes back slowly

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but if you release you get all of lone wolf back

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or something

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i dont play hunter

slim coral
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I need these

lament otter
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Need a 2h chainsaw blade for fury

storm rune
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looks like an ork choppa

somber notch
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waaagh

pastel relic
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During BL window on M+ specifically; I am having some issues where abilities are not registering after pressing. There is a noticeable delay and it’s driving me off the wall. Disregarding hardware/internet; is there any ideas you guys can offer? Should I cap fps, should I remove nividia reflex+boost setting, anything blatant I could be missing

sonic shoal
gilded pawn
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yeah that honestly sounds like latency

lament otter
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I experience the same thing pretty often - my world latency is 25

pastel relic
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My latency is 23 both home and world

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I’ve done 2 server transfers, currently playing on bleeding hallow

calm zinc
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advice on bladestorm fury, do we hold for full burst or ok to use on OF only

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or even just enrage

oblique trail
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You use BS together with CDs if you have it, and together with OF if it's ready after 45 seconds

sonic shoal
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Slayer build? Ideally full cd's then with OF then with full cd's again

calm zinc
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perfect thats what im doing but making sure thanks dudes

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aye slayer, getting bored of thane

gilded pawn
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play am slayer

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its a good change of pace

lament otter
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it feels smoother tbh

calm zinc
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i might try, im just on meta slayer build atm

pastel relic
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@storm rune thanks I figured I’d ask because it only seems to happen during BL windows and then I go watch a noxiv stream and his seems fine

storm rune
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yeah, it seems to be an oddly sporadic issue

pastel relic
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Guess it was wishful thinking I was unaffected by “whatever” those threads are specifying but maybe that’s not the case

somber notch
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i encountered some input lag playing outlaw in Vault, but after that ive not had any issues

storm rune
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It's always worth a try to test it out for yourself, even if the tests didn't resolve it for others it's a good thread for what you possibly can troubleshoot for. But yeah, something is wonky with the game currently

somber notch
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i would recommend playing with VPN but its risky cause blizz hates vpns

pastel relic
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Thank you guys for some insight

storm rune
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Anytime!

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prot channel is going to the dogs and fury is nothing but gentlemen, what a strange time to be online.

smoky vale
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?

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fury channel is #general with a different name

ornate gust
sly crane
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too used to high apm

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prot channel is always people shittalking eachother lol

ornate gust
coarse nest
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I can’t wait for AM crack 400 apm to be back

smoky vale
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me when prot is faster than fury

coarse nest
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110apm if you count ip spamming

gilded pawn
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prot is like 20% on the next fastest

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its actually crazy

sly crane
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take that you overpowered as fuck paladins warriors

winter shoal
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Can anyone tell me which gems we get this week from events and which we need to buy from the vendor?

smoky vale
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sim

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🤖

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ownd noob

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bigbowwl owned

winter shoal
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The sim tells me which gems frop?

winter shoal
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drop

smoky vale
lament otter
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hi gio

smoky vale
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hi feelz

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oh bowwl i thought you knew

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sorry

lament otter
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How long did it take you guys to get the kyveza counterclock thing learned?

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I feel like an idiot getting it wrong

winter shoal
# lament otter

"
The gems belonging to the goblins, Arathi, and Earthen should come from doing events on the isle that are started at the Siren Isle Command Map. After getting them once, you’ll be able to buy them and store them in your Warbank for your alts as usual.

The gems that belong to enemy factions should now be purchasable from Taljori, the Tortollan vendor sitting on the large rock behind Bargus.
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This implies to me that some gems come from events, and some come from the vendor. I'm asking which gems come from which sources

winter shoal
lament otter
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Oh, my bad

smoky vale
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rest havent been added yet right?

winter shoal
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idk I literally didn't pull up to the island until this afternoon

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idk if the hotfix is live yet either

covert blaze
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not yet

smoky vale
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sorry bigbowwl i was just thought you knew about the change

winter shoal
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Seems like I'm the only one who actually read the blue post instead of the headline smh

smoky vale
slim coral
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Checks out with death rates

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warrior has the highest death rate

outer umbra
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That’s crazy

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Healers must be afk or what

chilly fractal
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I’d by lying if I said I didn’t die to ripping aggro on spiders on Broodtwister a lot during prog

winter shoal
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Tank issue

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Unironically

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Your job is to destroy the adds asap, if you can't do that because the tanks aren't getting aggro, they need to sort their shit out

chilly fractal
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Evoker issue they didn’t want to buff timelessness

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After they started doing that it was all good

young swan
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man

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reading our tier set again

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why is it so fucking bad lol

smoky vale
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the less you think the happier you become

chilly fractal
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Someone prolly walked into the office asking what the tier sets were so they could get shit moving before the holidays

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And realized they are the only one still there working

winter shoal
chilly fractal
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Saaaaaame

clever path
coarse nest
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Thematical I guess since it’s a goblin patch but like

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….

red berry
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its so boring and so bad

dapper goblet
red berry
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it was engineered in a lab

coarse nest
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Ngl I voted S3 too

smoky vale
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i did

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🙂

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too bad we didnt get it anyways

restive granite
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WARRIOR IS DEAD

covert blaze
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xd?

coarse nest
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Inb4 20% slam buff

restive edge
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Anyone know when the patch to ungate the remaining citrines is gonna go live?

sly crane
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no

coarse nest
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After looking into my crystal ball my answer is tomorrow

coarse nest
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Hopefully tomorrow! I’m waiting to do any of the island content until that’s out

eternal sundial
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i voted S1

pure breach
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S2

clever belfry
feral ivy
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Has anyone simmed the correct gems now that there all available

opal sapphire
feral ivy
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Should be the hot fix for all gems to be available

restive edge
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Lmk when you get in?

unkempt vector
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Is there a soft cap on haste, is 35% too much ?

restive edge
lament otter
opal sapphire
restive edge
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I think they have to be unlocked first

edgy widget
opal sapphire
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completed one and didnt get any at least

feral ivy
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they really didnt tell us how other than "buy from the turtle vendor"

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however hes not selling any other than week 1 one

opal sapphire
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ye kind of shit way to word it

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but idk, they did say they are "working" on it

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so there is no eta and might as well just come wednesday

feral ivy
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nah should come before Tuesday since its a "hotfix"

bleak bluff
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hey i may be thinking too far ahead here, but the new Reckless Abandon seems to be a hefty nerf, as crushing blow and bloothbath are now only usable during Recklessness. Am i thinking this right?

opal sapphire
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All depends on the numbers really

bleak bluff
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i feel as the up time of crushing blow and bloodbath will be reaaly low..

upbeat plume
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the rider effects especially for bloodbath are intended to make up for it, but theres also epxected tuning to BB and CB as well since they are up less often

opal sapphire
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its gonna make us bursty and less sustain, which is weird because we were nerfed for the very same reason

gilded pawn
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thats the main difference

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the burst is gonna be over about 12-16 seconds

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remember they reworked titans torment

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our instant 3 gcd burst got gutted

bleak bluff
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so your saying they will make BB and CB more powerful than now in the future updates?! i hope thats a promise blizzard will hold

opal sapphire
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ye I get that but still

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i dont understand why fury "needs" to be bursty

gilded pawn
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this version of RA has been a thing for a long time

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just left in dragonflight

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if you want the sustained profile you can play AM

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both exist

opal sapphire
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yes and how much are we playing that right now exactly?

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meme builds aside

gilded pawn
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its within 1-2% of current RA

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on st

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its definitely viable

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so if you want more burst you play RA else you play AM

bleak bluff
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Different question
If speced a s Mountain Thane and Anger Management the cooldowns of Ravenger and Recklessness will always align?! with the cooldown reduction?!

opal sapphire
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thane is already sustained, no need for AM

buoyant zenith
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are the best gems for the ring for fury warrior written somewhere

gilded pawn
#

they will align

unique umbra
#

What is the optimal rotation opener with mountain thane and ravager?

gilded pawn
#

refer to wowhead

bleak bluff
unique umbra
#

The wowhead just shows spear/bladestorm though

bleak bluff
#

I can't help but feel Blizzard is going to screw up Warriors again with the start of season 2 and then try to fix it throughout the remainder of season 2, like they did during season 1 .. just hope that i'm wrong ㅠㅠ

lean heart
gilded pawn
#

3 minute

sinful spoke
lean heart
clever path
#

might not be weaker with the damage proc if it hits BIG

sinful spoke
#

eh

#

queens mandate does more

clever path
#

i mean it does both

#

gives buff and does damage

#

we wont use it anyway though cause 3m

modest condor
#

2.7mil nature damage per use is pretty big

clever path
#

i mean every other cd feels bad

modest condor
#

or 1.5mil

#

idk

#

either way

#

big

jolly mist
#

also it probably

#

crits

#

so

#

yeah

#

thats kinda brazy

sinful spoke
#

bro idk

clever path
#

itll be good maybe not bis but good

acoustic yoke
#

3 mins is wild though but not the worst

sinful spoke
#

every 3 mins

#

is horrible

modest condor
#

we used 3min in df as well

acoustic yoke
#

at least this lines up naturally

humble plover
#

I'll take a 3 min over 2 min

heavy dock
#

well its also only 623 numbers no?

#

it should scale up higher

gilded pawn
#

He’s linking a 616 number

#

But yeah it should be good

summer quail
#

What was the doti trinket called again? I used that for a few fights in s2, felt good

#

3m mirror

feral ivy
#

14 characters ... cant get these stup[id toys to do winter veil achievements

covert blaze
modest condor
#

meh mirror was annoying because if it procced haste on your opener it was effectively useless

gilded pawn
#

50 50 to win the game

summer quail
#

Got big boii zskarn parse with mirror

upbeat plume
#

the gem hotfix isnt live yet is it?

covert blaze
upbeat plume
#

10-4 lol

lament otter
covert blaze
#

@brittle crow is M kaelthas soloable?

#

like

#

sun king's salvation

oblique trail
#

They made it soloable

brittle crow
#

easily, with bandages

oblique trail
#

For non-healers

covert blaze
#

oh

brittle crow
#

bring 10

#

you'll need less

covert blaze
#

poggies

oblique trail
#

Just finished Sun King a few minutes ago, and he got a buff at the start of the fight that healed 1% of his health per second. I never had to actually heal him. The first shadow spawned right at the beginning of the encounter, so I just DPS'd him and the other adds the entire time.

#

Basically this

#

Have solo'd it on my warrior a month ish ago without bringing bandages

gilded pawn
#

sunking my goat

#

mythic plus the raid fight

covert blaze
steep lynx
#

any idea when the hotfix for the citrines is coming ?

oblique trail
#

Nope

#

Sometime today/tomorrow depending where you are

covert blaze
#

good times

gilded pawn
#

plausible deniability for being bottom dam

covert blaze
#

i was playing unholy that patch and it was giga busted

plucky wedge
#

new gems are out

calm swallow
#

Can I see your build sir?

oblique trail
#

Did you just reply to a 5 year old message

mossy fox
#

Impressive

meager void
#

absolutely brilliant tbh

buoyant zenith
#

are gem guides on wowhead or icyveins?

craggy merlin
#

hotfix live

#

go get em

calm swallow
warped bone
#

5 years. The man waited

covert blaze
#

that guy has a wife and 2 children by now

calm swallow
#

I was trying to find a message from the other day from someone who said they don't use DR currently in M+ and apparently that was not it lol

calm swallow
oblique trail
#

Search for TR then

#

Hasn't been called Dragon Roar for many moons

trail bane
#

11.1 arms instead of fury log in

#

mortal strike back on the menu and a much more interesting tier set

#

and fury becoming even more reliant on their cds

oblique trail
#

Not sure if it's more interesting, when there's a chance that it's optimal to just not press OP

trail bane
#

until its super optimal to press op

#

because your op goes bonkers

#

instead of your two regular buttons being slightly better once in a while

calm swallow
#

Still can't find it, oh well

#

Glad my blunder made some laughs at least lol

oblique trail
#

Frankly I'm just not a fan at all of the new sets, in particular melee sets

cunning igloo
#

Quick question, when I go to the vendor for citrine he only sells 3, do I have to do events to get the others?

oblique trail
#

They're inconsistent and punishes you for pressing your rotational buttons, on top of not really affecting your gameplay, where as the ranged sets are guaranteed to proc when you use your CDs, as well as adding to your gameplay

trail bane
#

i havnt looked at all of them, but im just happy our sets are not like the frost mage set

#

"once in a while you do a big dmg proc"

#

yay

brittle crow
#

guys am i supposed to play warrior in 11.1 or warlock

sullen dove
#

perhaps just play what you want to play wicked

warped bone
#

Gem change is pog. One you can just buy before even doing map events. Guess it's because we did first weekly quest

brittle crow
sullen dove
#

then there ya go

brittle crow
#

it is not out yet ..

warped bone
#

Just available from vendor. I haven't even done an event yet

cunning igloo
#

looking for stormbringer and the other 2 though

#

must be from events

oblique trail
#

Just spam the cave event or w/e is active

#

You'll get a new one each time

cunning igloo
#

I also just did the event for stormbringer but because I didnt contribute to the event beforehand it didnt drop??

humble plover
#

they are i just got both

storm rune
#

but stormbringer didn't drop

slate mica
#

stormbringer gem bugged? killed the boss twice no gem?>

clear wharf
warped bone
#

Just event

humble plover
#

event

oblique trail
#

Just go do the events

warped bone
#

Every time you do an event and gem a gem. Next event will have a new gem

oblique trail
#

It'll be a random gem reward

warped bone
#

Until you have all.

modest condor
#

damn this man actually replied to talic

warped bone
#

Is the abuse stat bug fixed btw?

unique umbra
#

Anyone else having a problem doign the caves and not getting gems?

cunning igloo
#

yeah bunch of us not getting them

unique umbra
#

Like it says on the map you should get a gem for finishing the quest, but you dont get anything

cunning igloo
#

stormbringer up to 3 kills now, no drop

clear wharf
#

they drop from all events or a certain one

cunning igloo
#

they drop from the event that drops them on the table in the main base

#

stormbringer definitely bugged

trim hound
#

Worked on my machine

slate mica
#

first kill ?

trim hound
#

Yup, i've done 5 now I think and they have all given a gem

unique umbra
#

what gems should we be using?

oblique trail
#

Tldr, Skipper + Fathomdweller + Thunderlord/Stormbringer on ST/AoE

unique umbra
#

gotcha

remote bobcat
#

can we go beyond 642 yet or is that next week? anyone know?

warped bone
#

next week

oblique trail
#

It's an extra +3 ilvl per week

#

Up till 658

warped bone
#

The level is still weekly

slate mica
#

still think its bugged

#

5 kills no gem

cunning igloo
#

5th kill stormbringer, still no drop

warped bone
unique umbra
#

Yeah I've done like 8 or nine kills, without getting loot

warped bone
oblique trail
#

I got my Fathomdweller after a 2nd attempt, but it was like 2 minutes after I finished the cave

unique umbra
#

I was hittin em, I guess I'll hearth and come back if it doesn't work this time

violet condor
#

is the fathemdweller gem just not dropping for anyone else?

inner zinc
#

i got mine

warped bone
#

Got all gems now

remote bobcat
#

not dropping for me either

hearty star
remote bobcat
#

🤷‍♂️

calm swallow
peak knoll
#

buy them here

slate mica
#

credit for the quest is bugged

lyric hound
#

or jus soon

steep lynx
#

yea somethings wrong

oblique trail
#

The hotfix is active yes

#

Some of the gems are just buggy with acquisition

remote bobcat
#

(the good ones)

#

somehow

trim hound
#

Can't add normal gem sockets to the ring sadge. Time for some rearranging

peak knoll
#

you can buy all gems from the vendors - you dont need to do the quests

warped bone
#

you can buy all gems. If you have unlocked them

calm swallow
#

yeah I can't buy the fathom gem even though I've done the event 8 times

warped bone
#

Some vendors defo did not have some gems until i did events. Other than Skipper one

steep lynx
#

yea so i was in party i dropped party fathom dropped when i left party

warped bone
#

Guildy had issue with getting gems. He left isle and came back and the one that bugged for him dropped

#

Either that worked or he just got lucky shrug

hearty star
#

Managed to get the gem i was missing by doing the event on an alt

quiet geyser
remote bobcat
#

it just doesnt show the fathom reward anymore

#

:kekw

sly tulip
#

I think its something to do with Shuddering Hollow itself, cant get it to work on any of my characters regardless of what gem im on

remote bobcat
#

^

quiet geyser
#

shuddering seems to be bugged, atleast on my server right now

#

stuck on "event complete" and wont reset

pseudo dawn
#

anyone know what gems we use for m plus

steep lynx
remote bobcat
#

stormbringer on silken court and ovinax, thunderlords everything else?

#

the shuddering hollow objective disappears when the rare mob is at 30% hp consistently

median kestrel
#

how many gems in total

remote bobcat
#

riiiight

warped bone
#

For me Stormbringer just vastly outsims Thunderlord on both AoE and ST

tropic gulch
#

i got all 12 gems

storm rune
#

yea just got stormbringer

#

Some mage was talking about the position of the boss being too close to the door when he dies and fucking up the event

#

just taunted him into mid and it dropped

acoustic yoke
woven swan
#

how do I get the Legendary Skipper's citrine?

remote bobcat
#

Taljori

#

vendor

woven swan
#

ty

remote bobcat
storm rune
red berry
#

is skippers really that good lmao

storm rune
#

sims the best for fury and prot

warped bone
#

Does this not proc on dummy?

#

Did 3 mins on dummy no procs

#

After removing ring and equiping it again it procs.

remote bobcat
#

yea tlord is rly buggy

#

even if it sims higher for ur char, it's not worth using until its fixed

warped bone
#

Naa. sims way worse. But wanted to try in dummies

storm rune
#

weird. So after that fail I just hung around the entrance to the cave waiting for the next one to start, once the timer for excavation started I gave me the gem

remote bobcat
#

so u got it by afk'ing near the entrance from one event to another?

floral frigate
#

im at the table to start that event and im putting in stuff for it

#

and it just flops to event complete

#

then clears the contribute bar

storm rune
#

yeah, visually I saw the walls respawn and the timer started ticking, but like 5 seconds later they collapsed and I got completion

#

then they respawned like 10 seconds later again with the timer continuing the whole time

floral frigate
#

well got it to spawn waiting on timer see what happens

#

and bonus event went away

#

like clockwork

quiet geyser
lyric hound
#

guys

#

are these changes on fury good or bad actually

oblique trail
#

We can't tell you yet

remote bobcat
oblique trail
#

Some are good

remote bobcat
#

probably

oblique trail
#

Some aren't as much

quick mango
#

I did the fathemdweller event 3 times now...anyone else having this problem?

#

friend got it first time same party

lyric hound
remote bobcat
#

being forced to go sudden death is awful with new talents if you've checked the calculator, it feels like we're simply getting less talent points

#

in aoe

quiet geyser
lyric hound
#

i got it

remote bobcat
#

rn

#

in raid, at least

#

not so much in dungeons

lyric hound
#

pvp?

quiet geyser
#

im not saying it isn't, but it just seems like a poor excuse comment to say "we don't know what to do with this". Not to mention theres always changes that could be made

rigid stirrup
#

just got the mastery gem

#

I think its really just rng

#

or it just got hotfixed

quiet geyser
#

for example, odyns and onslaught, REALLY could use a massive buff

storm rune
sonic shoal
#

Execute as well I guess

grand eagle
#

for the fathom gem "all other singing citrine effects are increased based on your total Mastery" that increased my stormbringer gem from 646 of every secondary stat to only 651???

sonic shoal
#

RA changes might make us lose quite significant amount of ST though

remote bobcat
grand eagle
#

that seems better weird i go from 646 to 651

quiet geyser
remote bobcat
storm rune
quiet geyser
#

I dunno why they don't just make onslaught siege breaker. Hit hard, and give the dmg bonus on primary target

oblique trail
#

Quite popular opinion is that Siegebreaker was just not a great button

quiet geyser
#

sure, back then

#

i think it would be great inplace of onslaught

sonic shoal
remote bobcat
#

but onslaught is worse

#

🗣️ 🔥 💯

oblique trail
#

They have to make it not Siegebreaker for it to be a good button

#

Well

#

"good"

#

Numerically it should be good

#

Considering the general state of our T3 talents

#

But personally I'd prefer to just not have it back

remote bobcat
#

make siegebreaker deal bonus dmg to the main target, spread with whirlwind and make it either enrage us, hit rly hard by itself or give 30+ rage

#

then its worth taking in non ST situations

#

💯

oblique trail
#

Right

#

So Onslaught basically

#

But you add a damage bonus to it

remote bobcat
#

yes

rigid stirrup
#

quick question do yall use the cursed or raident mastery enchant for rings

remote bobcat
#

cuz onslaught itself has no value

rigid stirrup
#

just a croud source question

oblique trail
#

Have never once used Cursed

sullen dove
#

maybe at max ilvl dmg proc more valuable tahn like 40 extra stat or whatever tf

quiet geyser
remote bobcat
#

storm is 5k more dps in ST for me with my ilvl

rigid stirrup
remote bobcat
sullen dove
#

its still decent damage

quiet geyser
#

right, but "spread with whirlwind" this is where you lost me. the idea of taking onslaught should be purely ST

rigid stirrup
#

also ring is simming less than both my 639 rings. might be just some sim shenanigans going on

warped bone
#

I did try it a few mins on dummy. Almost never goes above 1% dmg currently

sonic shoal
remote bobcat
warped bone
#

Good to know.

rigid stirrup
#

@remote bobcat

remote bobcat
#

yea the 658 proc is what matters

#

you simmed thunderlords in 5 target aoe

#

the ST proc citrine

#

yes bro its worse than ur rings

sullen dove
#

xdd

remote bobcat
#

go sim stormbringers instead

#

i also hate that ur using queens mandate in a 5 target sim

#

do u not have any passive trink?

sonic shoal
#

"We will untimegate your gems, but..."
"But the boss that gives the bis ones will be bugged."

rigid stirrup
#

I have a sac that I forget to equip/sim for

sonic shoal
#

This is what I was doing nothing for

sullen dove
#

yea its a lil annoyin but just try not to let him charge out of the cave

#

psure thats the main issue with that one

rigid stirrup
#

tbh I've been using mad queens for higher keys on target mobs/bosses

sullen dove
#

i got his loot 2/3 times

sonic shoal
#

I didn't get it like 6/6 times now

sullen dove
#

tank and other ppl should just kinda stand near a wall

#

is he charging to the tunnel

remote bobcat
#

i havent gotten fathom in 12 tries now

#

💯

sonic shoal
#

Yeah, he is by the entrance quite often

sullen dove
#

yea stop that from happening

#

should be ok probably

#

go tank if u gotta control him

sonic shoal
#

Will try

warped bone
sullen dove
#

have 0 other trinkets

#

same trinket since week 1 of the patch

#

in september

oblique trail
#

For me Thunderlord and Stormbringer is within margin of eachother on ST

warped bone
#

Aah,

oblique trail
#

Can't say exactly at a glance what would cause one to be grossly ahead of the other, if they are for you

warped bone
#

For me Strombringer is 5230 ST and 30k or something on AoE at current ilvls.

sullen dove
#

what does a "random citrine effect" even mean on the proc one

#

like of ones you have or literally any of em

#

only like a few of them are even procs no

#

the rest is just passive stat

oblique trail
#

It's any of the gems

#

Not just what you have on

sullen dove
#

so u can just randomly proc a heal

oblique trail
#

Yes

warped bone
#

yarp

sullen dove
#

and thats better than highest secondary somehow

warped bone
#

Or the tank shield

sonic shoal
#

Yeah but how does it make sense with Stormbringer though which is just stats?

remote bobcat
#

0/13 fathoms

#

🥱

#

fuck u blizz

sonic shoal
#

I just got my first one

#

And I took him deep in to the cavern, didn't let him charge to entrance

#

So it worked actually

hybrid karma
#

wish me luck

remote bobcat
#

I did exactly that and it insta killed the objective for it

#

lol

oblique trail
eternal abyss
#

if fathom does drop, relog. did the trick for me

oblique trail
#

Nvm

#

It seems that it can just prog all of the gems no matter what

sullen dove
#

what does it do for stat ones

oblique trail
sullen dove
#

like they just last some amount of time i assume

oblique trail
#

Just stats

sonic shoal
#

So you just get 150% of the static stats that you have?

sullen dove
#

doesnt rly say how long

eternal abyss
remote bobcat
warped bone
#

I mean have they fixed that stat abuse yet?

#

Aka get as much mastery you can THEN equip ring

#

for procs / stats to just give more

remote bobcat
#

no clue

edgy widget
oblique trail
#

Ye just tested it rq on the dummy to double check

feral ivy
#

How’s ppls sims with the new gems?

oblique trail
#

1.470 in AoE setup

#

Should be +100k in ST

storm rune
edgy widget
#

Ritual Knife is really good in sustained AoE, especially in lower gear where the mastery isn't DR'd to hell

#

I used it for quite awhile

warped bone
#

Ye it's suprisingly good. Still use it on my Ret

feral ivy
#

I wonder if it’s still better to go thunder dmg and the proc one and healing while in raid .. last night 4 ppl were doing 70k in ring dmg

warped bone
#

It's 5500 above a sac of equa ilvl

sullen dove
#

so 3 of the gem effects are just healing/shield, and the rest is either procs of dmg or stats

#

and you just roll the dice on that being good over passive stats yea

median kestrel
#

can we get another ring from a vendor for another spec or nah

sullen dove
#

naw

oblique trail
#

Don't think so no, but you can easily remove and add gems

median kestrel
#

yeah just lazy

oblique trail
#

Arms and Fury uses the same gems at least

#

So it's not an issue there

warped bone
#

Don't we use pretty much same even for Arms/Tank?

oblique trail
#

Idk about prot

median kestrel
#

is for prot

#

gotta change two gems everytime

oblique trail
#

It is what it is

warped bone
#

At least you don't have to go all the way to the isle to switch them out

remote bobcat
#

14th fathom try wish me luck or something

median kestrel
#

actually just one

#

i can live with that

sonic shoal
#

2nd one worked for me, great

remote bobcat
#

0/14

#

💯

median kestrel
#

so thunderlord just sucks if im like 700 ilvl

#

stormbringer all the way

sullen dove
#

how is windsingers so bad

forest ginkgo
#

I keep killing rock boss that should drop fathomdwellers gem

#

but it wont drop

#

the fuck

warped bone
#

It's bugged

forest ginkgo
#

Then how have others gotten fathomdweller sadgers

#

I cri

warped bone
#

Wasn't bugged for them

forest ginkgo
#

REEE

warped bone
#

For me i could oddly just buy fathomdwellers from turtle lady

sullen dove
#

dont let him charge to enterance

#

should be fine

warped bone
#

Before i even did events today after hotfix

thick fossil
#

If you read the notice board thing, "It's a chance to get" gem below

#

Took me about 5 tries to get Stormbringer's Runed citrine

remote bobcat
#

0/15

#

🥱

sullen dove
#

is he running out for you or not

#

idk i got all 12 in like maybe 30 minutes

restive arch
sonic shoal
#

Weirdly enough didn't get the achievement, because I bought those 2

forest ginkgo
#

I mean he charges into the entrance everytime but even if he doesnt it still dont drop for me

#

i cri

sonic shoal
#

I didn't get it for like 6-7 tries, then I tried tanking him in the back of the room, he didn't charge for the entrance and I got it

#

2 in a row, Stormbringer and Fathomdweller

thick fossil
#

Just killed the rock guy again.
First try.

eternal abyss
#

I got it after a relog on the next event. dude went all over the place iirc

median kestrel
#

cant we buy the gems on our alts?

thick fossil
#

Yes

median kestrel
#

if unlocked on main

#

where?

oblique trail
#

You gotta buy it on the char you got the gems on

#

Then send them through mail to the alt

median kestrel
#

ohhhhhhh

#

warband

#

right ty

remote bobcat
sullen dove
#

for me at least difference of thunderlord vs stormbringer at max ilvl is barely anything but thunder 2k better, but current ilvl stormbringer like 9k better oddly

#

then again the ring its replacing is only 626 so eh

#

even still 50k dps for the current ring from what i have is kinda nut no

#

3.3% off mickey mouse patch item

#

quite quizzical

#

but yea apparently windsingers is terrible and no one should use it

#

which is cool ig

remote bobcat
#

0/16, if the rock rare mob charges into the tunnel initially, the objective immediately disappears

sullen dove
#

only 1 slot that may ever get swapped

#

yea for the 5th time someone needs to tank him in a wall

#

and stop letting him do that

#

or tell ppl to not stand in the tunnel

#

he prolly picks a random player

coral swift
#

it's not a confirmed drop from the world bosses?

thick fossil
edgy widget
sullen dove
thick fossil
#

I do wish the damn ring would show you it's full stats on the mouse over tooltip.

remote bobcat
#

0/17

#

im getting tired of this

#

fathomdweller bullshit

#

just let me buy the gem already

trim hound
#

18th time's the charm xan

remote bobcat
#

we had a full 30 man group stand in the corner baiting the charge away from the tunnel.

sullen dove
#

pog

forest ginkgo
#

I got it now

#

seems u were right

#

But these dum dums were edgeing the entrance

#

just happy boss didnt charge them

remote bobcat
#

^

sullen dove
#

never forget the og

sullen dove
#

i was cleaning shit from my bank and putting it in void storage

#

and man the stat jump in just 2 xpacs is silly

#

rip gavel

#

best thing to ever grace the game

thick fossil
#

Won't lie, I still have mine in my bank somewhere. Still have my Legion weapons as well.