fury

[cedar kraken]

question with the pure st rotation. Do we basically ignore if we have 2 stacks of the slayer sudden death proc if we dont have 3 stacks of the marked for execution?

[clever belfry]

not rly, i got practically all ZZZ content muted on any socials i use
the community is just very icky

Prefer to not engage

[sinful spoke]

yeah i bet u play shark girl

or the rat girl

[acoustic yoke]

i remember when honkai impact was the only hoyo game on the market

[hidden kite]

Why does blizz love rng so much

[sinful spoke]

honkai impact

[warped bone]

Unholy one seems very non gamble tho.

Just straight up 60% Death coil/Epidemic damage during Dark Transformation

[clever belfry]

not even their first game

[acoustic yoke]

60%?

[fickle cedar]

If you have nothing to press just use it, also if that sudden death is running out press it, you wanna make sure ashen gets refreshed and you dont know when you're gonna get another one

[hard widget]

Everyone wanted to do the same as an enhancement shaman, we didnt get the dmg. We did get the RNG tho

[acoustic yoke]

oh yeah

the 100% part

[clever belfry]

i have both
but with fox woman out shark girl kinda useless now unfortunately

[warped bone]

30% + 100% effectiveness. And it can't reset during dark transformation

[clever belfry]

i like playing shark girl, she is fun

[acoustic yoke]

was the first for me

[clever belfry]

but my fox just does double her dam wcyd

[acoustic yoke]

the amount i spent trying to get sakura

jeez

then they had the maid chick

[clever belfry]

im sorry to hear that

[acoustic yoke]

and i had to give up

[hidden kite]

Do i start gearing my unholy

[acoustic yoke]

otherwise i'd be bankrupt

[humble lily]

That fury 4 piece tier set sounds like shit.

[hidden kite]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-change-from-funny-to-despair-gif-6463794131384274133

[clever belfry]

🎰

[hidden kite]

Wouldnt goblins hate gamblin though

Theyre hardworking honest people

[desert cloud]

is the new patch sponsored by stake ?

[clever belfry]

Blizzard saw the success of online casinos and gacha

[young swan]

you would think so

[clever belfry]

(real)

[desert cloud]

wtf is this max win ahh tier sets

[acoustic yoke]

i love to chase highs

[clever belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gDLNXdPjI

[cloud saddle]

They all sound like crap, except maybe BM Hunters who will get even more cooldown reduction >.<

[desert cloud]

the issue is they added max and they forgot the win part

[acoustic yoke]

but the high in our set is a low

[clever belfry]

Me next patch

[acoustic yoke]

so

[warped bone]

Fakking sounds like they will be perma Bestial Wrath 😄

[clever belfry]

yo guys new dmg distribution dropped

[smoky vale]

woah so nice anda

im learning so much

[clever belfry]

this is funny if you're cringe

[desert cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-new-vegas-xqc-gambling-gif-12011438161648988680

[cloud saddle]

Yeah, pretty much.

[desert cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-anita-maxwin-drake-i-need-max-win-drake-zesty-zesty-gif-4880071011383875587

blizzard

[clever belfry]

infinite risk = infinite reward

math checks out

[desert cloud]

you only lose 100% of your dmmg

but once it hits

you do 1000% more

i hope Im right

[clever belfry]

tbf

fury is already turbo casino

[desert cloud]

i hate rampage procs

[craggy sleet]

finite losses, enough to count on my fingers....but the winnings?

infinite.

we will gamble big

[clever belfry]

reap slayers strike
Lightning strikes and tb procs

it's just casino

[desert cloud]

i feel like 90% of the time rampage procs are a waste

[clever belfry]

we are gambling

what fucking rampage procs

[desert cloud]

no rage cost

[clever belfry]

?

Bro playing legion mass

[young swan]

that doesnt exist

[desert cloud]

wtf

[clever belfry]

are u okay

[warm crag]

me when i imagine things

[desert cloud]

i always double press rampage

[clever belfry]

are u on a legion pserver

[desert cloud]

is it bcz im getting parried ?

[clever belfry]

Does the refund still exist

[desert cloud]

i swear im getting refunded

[warm crag]

No

[lean heart]

[winter shoal]

any loremasters

[clever belfry]

u just generate

inf rage

[rose bay]

ramp gave u reck cd

Reck gave u inc rage

[young swan]

frothing berserker + reck + auto attacks

[rose bay]

😄

[young swan]

grats ramp -> ramp achieved

[desert cloud]

it feels like im getting refunded

[young swan]

ramp has a 20% chance to refund 8 rage

[rose bay]

ww 3 rampages ww 3 rampages ww 3 rampages

[clever belfry]

FB men

xan Just rolled u

[young swan]

i really

REALLY

hope

FB actually got removed

shit ass talent

[gleaming siren]

I know why

[clever belfry]

i won

[warm crag]

Fuck!

[coral dock]

So are we happy about the posted changes in 11.1 or are we going to start dooming? I can’t tell if they are good or bad

[young swan]

eh

at this point u might as well pretend we didnt even get notes

[feral ivy]

she gained a buff

FUCK

[coral dock]

I mean weren’t we already weak as fuck in between burst cooldowns, and now they changed crushing blow and bloodbath to only happen during a 20 second window of our bursts?

[crystal coyote]

Why did they think more randomness is good

I don't wanna gamble

[young swan]

yeah lol

[winter shoal]

Nobody will be able to tell until it's actually on PTR

[coral dock]

So our damage during the burst window is gonna stay relatively the same, but our damage in between burst windows is going to go significantly down is what it sounds like

[young swan]

I mean i think the RA change is good

burst window should get stronger

[winter shoal]

During SL RA would you only ramp to refresh enrage and just mash CB/BB every global you could?

[young swan]

its just a matter of whether or not that offsets the damage lost from having CB and BB available for the entire fight

[young swan]

I quit in nathria

[winter shoal]

based

[young swan]

but I think thats correct

[young swan]

also like, 0 tuning in these notes

[winter shoal]

Idk sounds kinda beans but also current RA is turbo unintuitive

[young swan]

and theres def gonna be tuning

which is why I said u might as well pretend we didnt even get notes

[winter shoal]

AM Thane gameplay is sicko mode though and that might be kinda good with new TT

[young swan]

cause we got like

[red berry]

i was gonna ask - didn't they just make RA bacck to old RA?

[young swan]

1/3rd maybe of the picture

[winter shoal]

We also don't know how the talent tree got shuffled

[red berry]

if so they'll probably definitely tune them to be bigger

i doubt they put RA up further on the tree but they might have

[inland flame]

we won

[young swan]

got added to reinforced plates

good chane

[inland flame]

ya i kno

[young swan]

passive 10% hp is huge

[inland flame]

i've been complaining about having the lowest plate dps health (other than arms) so much people stopped talking to me

[young swan]

thats funny

yeah thats a sick one

big W

[wary fjord]

armored to the teeth was removed too right?

good change

[midnight kite]

as far as I can see armored was not removed

[inland flame]

Hmm idk how I feel about the Titan's Torment change, gonna have to play with it

[midnight kite]

they just cleaned up a bunch of talents that had 1-2 extra copies for the other specs

[wary fjord]

oh it was removed from prot it says

and made passive

[midnight kite]

so like Barbaric training (fury) and Barbaric training (prot) were removed and now Barbaric training (arms) is just all 3

[wary fjord]

wait no

im brain dead

[spare steppe]

isn't that bad?

[wary fjord]

its just 1 point now

[spare steppe]

oh thats good

[wary fjord]

still, good change

[inland flame]

We never ever took it, making the talent imaginary to dps. Now we'll have a chance to take the extra stam.

[wary fjord]

but now we got 2 pts for our weapon specs

[slim coral]

so glad we get 2 dinar next tier

[wary fjord]

we do?

[modest condor]

is this the first time they've made a different ksm mount in the same expansion?

[wary fjord]

[sudden tusk]

we get a unique KSM mount too

woo

[midnight kite]

did they show it? but as far as I know KSM mounts have always been recolors of eachother yeah

[modest condor]

#news

[inland flame]

wait we don't get the free hero track piece for free anymore that kinda stinks early on

[midnight kite]

cant say I would ever use that but yeah thats a different model from the previous alright

[slim coral]

yes

[slim coral]

first time I've seen in since I've been playing

[inland flame]

ooh archi just posted new talent calc

[modest condor]

it's up on wowhead already

oh he linked to it

[inland flame]

ye

[sudden tusk]

they put wep spec on the left

weeeeirrddd

[inland flame]

Ya and you have to go through Clap or Shockwave to take stamina

prolly not a big deal if we have the points

[feral ivy]

can somoene do me a fav im mid raid in mythic queen from platform 3>1st set of adds up top whats the time on that

[junior gale]

you have the points no cringe 1 point only in armored or wep spec

[inland flame]

got a couple of real flex points for a ST slayer build looks like

[tame gorge]

I don’t get how fury is one of the only specs that seem to be deprived from getting the full benefit of winning streak without a cooldown to bypass losing it like other melle

Unholy can get 10 stacks off a 1 min cooldown and spam death coil

Ret gets to spam holy power moves after losing it

Enhance gets a CDR

We get a 50 50 for either increased damage to bloodthirst and raging blow? What are they smoking?

[modest condor]

it's a casino tier

themetically it fits

[tame gorge]

Then make it casino for everyone.

[static spade]

fury will play Avatar + Roar + spear ? or 45 Roar is better?

[inland flame]

The mechanic of it falling off is the big casino part

We just don't get anything that procs off of that aspect of it

[modest condor]

we dont know yet, but i dont think there's much value to 45s roar with the changes

[primal python]

so good changes, being able to always get uproar and 2 points in armored to the teeth and not being forced into cruel strikes when taking TR

don't really have any issues with the class tree anymore then that I can think of

[modest condor]

something archi mentioned is that you cant drop 1 point in overwhelming rage to flex a utility slot anymore

otherwise yeah i like it

[primal python]

feels like you have flexibility without it

[rigid stirrup]

are trinkets for the raid in PTR yet?

[inland flame]

tier appearance is kinda mid tbh, like a lot of our sets I like the essence of it but the execution feels a little lacking

idk maybe im being too harsh or maybe theyll have a cool effect

[vital lichen]

Flashback to wod

[vagrant dagger]

bro im looking at caster tier sets with Jackpot!

they look way cooler than ours

[primal python]

nothing comes close to the monk one, that's one of if not the best set they've made

[inland flame]

ya its p neat

bet it looks great moving in game

[edgy widget]

Probably won't play Spear + Roar, if for no other reason than increased opportunity cost
especially with the RA change putting an even greater premium on GCDs during cooldowns

maybe some tech if you really want the spear tether though

[junior gale]

Hey Archi what are the chances the fury 2pc is per rampage hit and not per cast for the 15% to remove winning streak xd

[edgy widget]

should be on cast

[upbeat plume]

wait whats the nerf to armored to the teeth in 11.1?

[thick fossil]

Hmm, is this new talent tree they nerfed "Armored to the Teeth."

[modest condor]

still shows the same amount to me

[thick fossil]

Maybe it's just a browser bug.

2 points in it still show 5%

[modest condor]

probably just a tooltip bug

would be kinda weird if the 2nd point did nothing

[sonic shoal]

I think the nerf that was mentioned, was datamined from changes to prot, but there were a lot of "deleted" talents, only to make use of the ones from other specs- basically the same, just given different modifiers

So I don't think there's any nerf to Armored to the Teeth

[charred estuary]

I really hope that bloodbath change doesn't mean we're tab targeting during reck

especially since frenzy still exists for some reason

[brittle glen]

That would be pretty stinky

[wraith wharf]

..hopefully they make execute worth hitting outside keeping buffs up / using buffs if they are forcing us to take sudden death for slayer

[feral ivy]

guys

[wraith wharf]

broccoli

[feral ivy]

we are in raid everyone using rings and some ppl are doing the procs

[edgy widget]

it should cleave, not only affect the direct target

[feral ivy]

in raid i feel like the rings are VERY strong if everyone is useing it..

[warped bone]

Ye it procced like mad on a fight i forgot to remove it. Had tested it out in the world before that

[edgy widget]

Thunderlord actually is one of the best gems, and if you have people running War-Queens, it'll proc even more (though Legendary Skipper will do effectively the same thing)

[feral ivy]

we are going to try everyone run the proc one and then like 4 ppl run the dmg one

and see how much it does

[edgy widget]

the issue right now is that Mariner's doesn't provide any DPS value, whereas Fathomdweller is kinda huge
Mariner's does provide as good amount of healing, but most people don't care about that as much as they do raw damage

[wraith wharf]

best parse is going to be someone in a group with 4 people with the proc one while they run the damage one

[feral ivy]

everyone doing 20mil healing

still strong

[charred estuary]

crazy for council type fights

Stack a 45s bleed?

[feral ivy]

GOD DAMN

[edgy widget]

We don't actually know what the max duration is yet; as much as I like the idea of stacking up a 40s bleed I think it kind of unlikely

[humble plover]

[feral ivy]

LETS GOOOOO

[wanton mirage]

Gratz

[midnight kite]

I thought I beat him but my details stole one of his reflects

[humble plover]

dead boss

we both winners

fuck them parses

[modest condor]

grats

[warped bone]

Congrats!

[sullen dove]

@clever belfry acquired wolf man who was good for ellen!!! but so is miyabi just like strict ellen upgrade and he as good for her or meh

but harumasa is so fuckin cool too

[oblique trail]

Miyabi is god

👍

[sullen dove]

according to this one guide her signature weapon is like 25% better than the next best one!

and like 40% than the best 4star!

yippee!!

[oblique trail]

Her weapon is absolutely bonkers broken yes

And it's the only weapon I feel obligated to pull for

[sullen dove]

ya

honkaipilled shit

genshin weapons barely matter

[oblique trail]

Anda of course cheated and got it after like 40-50 pulls

[sullen dove]

classic

is weapon 50/50 roll too or somethin

or guarantee or like 75% like honkee

[oblique trail]

75/25

[sullen dove]

yea not horrible

but yea i stoppedp laying in like 1.0 lol

so prolly got a ton of gems from doing story n shit

[oblique trail]

You have a gazillion waiting for you

[sullen dove]

only iknot 37 or sum

[oblique trail]

I hadn't played for 2 months realistically, and I logged in and got enough for 80~ pulls within a few hours

You will be absolutely showered in them

[sullen dove]

yea i claimed all mail and got like 4000

already sent like 50 pulls or sum on miyabi and got lyc

but more will come

[pure echo]

This is fucking hot dog shit. Why don’t they rework fucking spear from it being absolute trash to being decent in shadowlands. Let each enemy hit CDR it, or just give us ancient aftershock instead.

[sullen dove]

[pure echo]

I don’t like any of these warrior changes at all

[modest condor]

ok

[inner shadow]

is this change a buff or nerf?

[oblique trail]

We don't know

[modest condor]

doesnt matter either

it's a design change, and tuning will happen after it has been tested

[sullen dove]

realistically even if its not insane

like avatar casting an odyns is so much who cares

idm havin a more frenzyish cd window

instead of "extra copout instant aoe"

part of why we got nerfed 500 times beginning of the patch anyway

the RA changes are what might be a bit more cringe

[pure echo]

But it’s completely cool that ret has a single button rotation for burst every 30s, no setup, no buff to manage. I think blizzard just doesn’t know how to design warrior.

[sullen dove]

putting more power into the cd window

[sudden tusk]

dont like it

on paper

[pure echo]

They need to really look at spear, and maybe roar. Maybe look at other capstones for fury/arms/prot besides the one that casts BS/mortal strike with bladestorm/ravager. that’s one talent they actually got right imo

[oblique trail]

Sorry but this really isn't any different from Warrior

Our burst requires no setup either, and we don't need to really manage Enrage in our current state

[humble lily]

More changes have to be coming, no way that this is it. New talents have to come in for some of the removed ones. especially for prot.

[primal plover]

yea his pt was nownimagine that every 30.seconds not every 90 seconds

[sullen dove]

i feel like titans/RA changes conflict with eachother, if you take titans torment and cast rampage more often cuz less rage cost then you wanna make the most out of that. but if during reck your abilities are always cb/bb and you prolly want to use that more often it seems like you have some conflict of priority

[primal plover]

yep

[sullen dove]

cuz like if you just cb > ramp > cb > ramp > bb or somethin it seems like wasted opportunity to not like cb > cb > cb if you can and it does large damage

[primal plover]

i think am back on menu in big way

[sullen dove]

maybe

also really lines up with the new titans

that wouldnt be that bad

and berserkers with RA might actually synergize more right?

if more reck uptime

buttons stay bb/cb longer

[oblique trail]

New Titan would not be good with AM

AM is based on rage spent

[sullen dove]

so titan/am or berserk/ra yea?

seems real

[primal plover]

well ra also heavily incentivises Bb build too ur cd window gets an extra bleed to tap into bb bleed cshb and troar window

[eternal canopy]

is it joever or are we back tell me how to feel

[primal plover]

unfortunately there are no cds you ever want to bladestorm during so slayer has gone down imo

[red berry]

i also think that incentivizing you to press two buttons when you are limited by GCD between the both of them would feel bloated during play

you want to hit more rampages but bloodthirst is more aggressive but then you also have to hit clap or whirlwind

[sullen dove]

i mean i cant imagine hitting bb more than a few times means anything right

unless dot duration stacks up every single time you hit it which seems unrealistic

i assume thered be a cap

like 2bb = dot lasts 12 seconds and you just hit cb for most of the time after

and then refresh bb dot

no way you just spam bb

[red berry]

absolutely but the CD reduction

[sullen dove]

well yea thats from taking titans

which you prolly just wont

with reck abandon

[red berry]

yeah

[pure echo]

Ok, sure. I guess i’m talking about their normal aoe abilities. One button and proccing divine storm is insanely easy vs maintaining whirlwind stacks and each press of whirlwind doing dick for damage

[sinful spoke]

i think

swordfish is yapping

i havent read anything

[sullen dove]

yapplebees

[young swan]

u def will

[sinful spoke]

but hes deffo yapping

[young swan]

just BB every other gcd

if u think thats not insane ur lost

[pure echo]

I just think they need to give warrior/spec trees a rework on the level of paladin when they did it in DF. Warrior really needs something in the form of utility. Right now it’s shit.

[red berry]

i think it’ll feel really bad though due to GCD

[young swan]

why

[humble lily]

more changes have to be coming. this is just the first datamined patch notes of the new patch.

[young swan]

correct

[oblique trail]

If you want your AoE enabler to do damage, Thane is right there

[night sun]

goodluck i can bet u paladin players spend way more money than any other class fanbase

[oblique trail]

Besides our basic rotational abilities already do good damage (remains to be seen after the RA changes)

[night sun]

that’s why they get all the good changes

[pure echo]

Hello?

[night sun]

hi!

[pure echo]

I’m a warrior main brother

[sinful spoke]

they should just make ww do a lo more dmg and remove the meat cleaver talent

[night sun]

no way rlly

[sinful spoke]

make it cost more rage

[pure echo]

I play paladin alt and that shit is insane the level of utility you got

[sinful spoke]

more dmg

[young swan]

yeah if u wanna be concerned about some shit be concerned about our sustain damage with the lost of perma BB + CB

[sinful spoke]

= win

[pure echo]

Blocked

[night sun]

u might’ve missed what i said

but okay

[young swan]

idk the RA change and the titans torment change are both good steps in the right direction

[red berry]

ywah the RA change is so weird to me

idk

[young swan]

its a good change

[sinful spoke]

xan sounds smart and all but he has an anime pfp

so opinion invalidated

[young swan]

its not anime

[red berry]

if it reduces consistency

[young swan]

well

it kind of is

[sinful spoke]

castlevania is 100% anime

[young swan]

its the animated castlevania series

[pure echo]

Ohhhh I did. I thought you were calling me a paladin player and trolling lmao. My b

[night sun]

[sinful spoke]

bro has sukuna doing gang signs as his banner

[young swan]

yeah I mean i know its fun to get up in arms and doom and gloom but they literally just threw us a bone before going on vacation

I wouldnt take these notes particularly seriously rn

[sinful spoke]

the worst thing to come out of these changes is arms losing movement speed

😭

[sullen dove]

u mean titans and RA together?

[young swan]

considering how iterative they are

[red berry]

the change to avatar reduces our AoE throughout and the change to RA reduces our consistency

[pure echo]

Watching A movie with the gf and just mad they making lame changes.

[young swan]

yeah

[sullen dove]

using bb that just extends a dot? im saying the dot should almost definitely have a cap and theres no way you just spam that

[pure echo]

What bone????

[sullen dove]

it doesnt do anything else

and then you just either hard ignore reduced rampage rage cost or arent hitting as many cbs as you could in the window

[young swan]

u prob do, bb is still good on its own

[sullen dove]

as good as cb?

[young swan]

similar ish

[sullen dove]

and like easily stacking bloodcraze for a crit bb

[somber notch]

quick question, does Berserker Rage count as an Enrage for skill criteria?

[young swan]

keep in mind bb procs thunderblast and reap

like

ur just gonna slam it

[sullen dove]

reap

[young swan]

pretty sure from a value perspective, bt/bb is our best generator

rampage is in a weird as fuck spot now

[red berry]

reap will be nice with new avatar

[young swan]

like why do we care about it beyond just spending rage

avatar didnt change at all, did it?

its just the same

[red berry]

well

new titans

[young swan]

or do u mean with titans

ah yeah

[sullen dove]

i mean ramp is still like your highest dmging ability

and next tierset is rampage gamba

yea its kinda whatever but i feel like 60 rage cost rampage with am you can just spam the shit outta that

and get back reck/rav/bs so much faster

during cds

[young swan]

yeah but the rage cost literally doesnt matter

that change is actually whatever

[sullen dove]

but like with the aforementioned spam bb titam/ra i dont think titan contributes like anything

except for some bb cdr

[young swan]

its good for UF i guess

[sullen dove]

but like thane you already get burst of powers

[young swan]

cause UF is % chance

[sullen dove]

to just spam free bb's anyway

dont think titans provides that much for ra anymore

i mean maybe bb spam better for stuff

or like burst aoe reap/tb procs

but st just seems kinda who cares

[young swan]

it'll prob be better for pure ST

[red berry]

you still want to hit it to maintain enrage which means you need to press it every 4 seconds anyway

[young swan]

or any end boss

cause VC execute shit

[red berry]

but rampage more feels worse in AoE i feel

[young swan]

yeah idk

[red berry]

since so many other buttons have more value

[young swan]

I still think the changes are good

but holy mid

[covert blaze]

@young swan yap sesh about the cahnges?

[young swan]

maybe get some cool shit after the break

[red berry]

fury design feels limited by how fast it wants to be i feel

[young swan]

maybe

[young swan]

they can definitely do a lot

[red berry]

i feel saying that twice in a row

[young swan]

they just choose not to

it being fast doesnt really matter

[red berry]

well yeah

it’s less that and more

[somber notch]

anyone got an clue on this?

[red berry]

the clutter of buttons to press relative to being locked by GCD

[young swan]

ur gonna have to elaborate

[young swan]

i dont really see that as an issue

[red berry]

there’s not exactly a lot of buttons and its hardly complicated

[young swan]

ideally you never run out of buttons to press

[oblique trail]

Afaik no, not anymore. But you shouldn't struggle being enraged with current Fury when you want to be

[somber notch]

example, if i Berserker Rage, does Frenzied Enrage trigger

[young swan]

oh

no

what banezi said

[somber notch]

ok ty

[red berry]

i think my contention comes from rampage being valued when it doesn’t

have much interaction

[young swan]

yeah

[red berry]

and it being off GCD would be far too strong

even if i feel that would help

[young swan]

they just dont have any idea what the fuck they want to do with warrior

so its just a bunch of disjointed shit thrown together

literally held together by sticks and glue

[red berry]

the change to RA is nice because i love dots and im sure it’ll rock in keys

idk about the change to titans im skeptical of that

and i am worried about our AoE throughout and consistency

tuning will happen

[storm rune]

It sounds amazing to me

[somber notch]

another question, if i royally fucked up between pulls and have 0 rage, whats the best way to enrage

[red berry]

it sounds amazing but we are still limited by how fast we can send thunder blast relative to how strong it is

[storm rune]

reck ra with the constant cb/bb/ramp spam is gonna be the tatas

[oblique trail]

Depending on what you have available, Odyn's Fury if you have it + Titanic Rage, otherwise you just gotta charge and build rage back up and go in dry

[somber notch]

ok ty

[sullen dove]

saw some juicy silken p3

fight kinda fun...

[somber notch]

is there a more advanced guide on talents that i can read? the wowhead guide is.. very simple

[covert blaze]

are you red or blue

@sullen dove

[oblique trail]

In what regard, what the talents do, or what alternative talent options are?

[somber notch]

ie, Frenzied Enrange vs Powerful Enrage, questions like that.

dont know if i should just spam this channel

[oblique trail]

The choice between those, is that typically Powerful is preferred for bursty context, i.e like raid fights, or in general AoE. In ST you can sim the differences

[somber notch]

i have like a whole list of questions..

[oblique trail]

Though to be quite frank, there's not a big enough difference in practice for it to matter much, and at times it's better to use Frenzied since it means it'll be easier to get back BS for certain points of a fight, like Ansurek

It's a bit of a preference pick, and wont be the determining factor whether your damage is good or not, which is the long and short of it

But just ask here, if there's something the guide doesn't explain and you wonder about

[somber notch]

ok ill type it up in a list and ppl can pick and choose to answer

appreciate it

[sullen dove]

blue

if i was red prolly would be forced to web slave

surprised i wasnt tbh

[nocturne dragon]

Surely critcake will make commentary video on fury war’s change and tierset?

[sinful spoke]

Guild killed silken without me so im 6/8 on queen

But queen is kinda fun so its we

Hoping we kill her soon for reclear so i can kill silken

[covert blaze]

blasta

[sinful spoke]

Show me ur blue mog

[covert blaze]

swordish the what

[sullen dove]

yeap

[sinful spoke]

Bro

Is this a randomized mog

[sullen dove]

shut up wench

i need the normal ulgrax belt

then its 10x better

but cba farm

[sinful spoke]

The helm is diff colors

U got mining node hands and one tree shoulder

Is bro the avatar

[covert blaze]

lmao

cooked

[sullen dove]

yea i mean the shoulder thing im least gaming with

[storm rune]

Man inscription would eat if they added armor dye packs

[sullen dove]

but like i just wanted somethin tiny and blue

little accent

but i mean im not attached to it

but check this belt

fits so perfectly

[storm rune]

horseshoe codpiece

bold

[sinful spoke]

Brother

We will get u some help

[sullen dove]

nah ur actually cooked

this shit is so fire

i will give i wish the helmet wasnt purple

like its the most offputting thing

but like blue runes

for everything else blue

[storm rune]

tons of helm options to choose from

I do like the blue runes on it tho

[sinful spoke]

Wallah bro got leaves on his chest piece

Nah i actually cant look at this

The more i look the more i hate it

Mismatching df sets is crazy

[remote zephyr]

ST or AoE build for mythic queen?

[sinful spoke]

Legit most of them dont work together

[sinful spoke]

Aoe

But if ur at queen u should know this

[remote zephyr]

Apparently not guy

[storm rune]

your entire job is kill p3 adds

[sinful spoke]

I mean if u raid mythic

And u know ur class

And the fights

U would come to the conclusion of what talents to use on each fight

[supple kettle]

has anyone crunched some quick numbers yet?

[sinful spoke]

350

[modest condor]

kinda pointless to even think about numbers right now

[sinful spoke]

Sil is ur pfp ur oc

[supple kettle]

fair

[modest condor]

no

[nocturne dragon]

Not 420?

[sinful spoke]

Whats it from

[modest condor]

mekakucity actors

[sinful spoke]

Ahhhh

[modest condor]

altho this one was drawn for me by a friend

[sinful spoke]

I think i watched 2 eps of that anime

Same studio as monogatari right?

[supple kettle]

is there gonna be a ptr for season 2?

[sinful spoke]

Ur friend is goated

[sinful spoke]

Yes there always is

In january

[modest condor]

no clue i dont even remember anything from the anime, i just like this character's design

[modest condor]

i'll let her know

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ene-mekakucity-mekakucity-actors-thanks-thank-you-gif-21656538

[sullen dove]

bro literal dragon scales from the df set

chest/leg/boot all same set

they give me blue tipped spikes

and 1 other piece is from df on there

aside from weap which cant be refuted

[modest condor]

my character is also blue

[sinful spoke]

I looked it up and it is

How did i remember that

[sullen dove]

and the white of the sennarth gloves matches all the other white on the primalist set

[sinful spoke]

Yapplebees

[modest condor]

bought the blue axe from the trading post this month and i was like this looks like the frost resistance set from naxx

so i farmed that real quick

[sullen dove]

🔁

[sinful spoke]

I wish we had nice looking blue weps

[sullen dove]

rasz axe is heat

and smold sword ofc

[modest condor]

yeah lfr smolderon sword is cool

[sinful spoke]

Rasz is nice but its kinda weird looking

Smold sword is cool but overused atp

[modest condor]

bought the smolderon lfr sword with awakened thingy

[sinful spoke]

I just stole every single one of the mogs

Legit rolled need

In lfr normal and heroic

[modest condor]

i never did lfr

[sinful spoke]

I just did lfr for the sword mog

And to get brand cause it never dropped

[modest condor]

i got my brand giga late

[sinful spoke]

@clever belfry

[sinful spoke]

Same

[sullen dove]

YEP

zzz is so good man

regret stopping playing

but its also just so complicated

[sinful spoke]

Gooner detected

[sullen dove]

currently gooning over a free dude they added

[oblique trail]

I'd say ZZZ is more simple to play than Genshin

[sullen dove]

huh...

[oblique trail]

Maybe that's just me

[sullen dove]

idk maybe its bias of having played it longer but aside from reactions genshin has literally nothing else going on

which is a big part sure

[sinful spoke]

When i played zzz i think it was the shark girl everyone simper

I played it for one day on release

Same as every gatcha

[sullen dove]

but i mean each zzz char has like 3 different attacks for normal attack/swap/skill/ult/chain whatever

and like the position they are in your team matters kinda and stuff

like im just spraying and praying with harumasa and its working pretty good at farming mats and stuff but not sure about endgame

but when the guide has like a 20 step bis burst window rotation im sittin here like

just for him too not counting whatever else u gotta do on the other characters

but like c1 rina and anby i think are going pretty well with him

[sinful spoke]

Actual yapplebees

I shouldnt have mentioned goonbait

[oblique trail]

Haven't done Shiyu 7 in a while, nor attempted on Miyabi yet

[sinful spoke]

My bad

[oblique trail]

But genuinely I can just spam left click on Miyabi and press buttons when glowing, and she clears everything

[sullen dove]

[oblique trail]

Because as I said earlier, Miyabi is god

[sullen dove]

i got c6 soukaku and just got lycaon

i assume thats adequate enough yea?

[sinful spoke]

Hmm yes ofc

[sullen dove]

no hoshino or qingyi or whatever

[oblique trail]

It's what I'm using

[sullen dove]

who they said is like her best

[sinful spoke]

Talk to me when u play nikke

[sullen dove]

is that a joke

[sinful spoke]

Literal best gacha game out there

Genshing? Honkai?

[sullen dove]

talk about gooner bait

[sinful spoke]

Epic seven up there too

[modest condor]

pretty low bar

[sinful spoke]

Epic seven has the sexy dragon girls

[sullen dove]

stg fucking server blocking message

idek what it is

naked

ok not that

[sinful spoke]

The one with the spear and the one with the greatsword

[sullen dove]

regardless nikke literally naked women space invaders

most boring shit ive ever seen

[sinful spoke]

I dont play gacha games but nikke bluew up out of nowhere and i checked it out and inwas flabbergasted

[surreal token]

wtffffffffffffffffffff

[modest condor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sinful spoke]

Kay2 stalkin me

[sullen dove]

these othergames at least have gameplay

nikke is literally nothing im lead to believe

[sinful spoke]

Nikke is actual gooner bait

[sullen dove]

gratitude

[surreal token]

That article has the craziest title i've ever seen in my life

[sullen dove]

gratittude

hmm

[surreal token]

yo why are all warriors fucking weebs

[sinful spoke]

Idk yall are freaks

[oblique trail]

Perhaps but it's a genuine truth

[sour sedge]

class dead gg

[oblique trail]

That people freaked out on Twitter over it

[oblique trail]

Because people are not normal in the brain

[sullen dove]

[sinful spoke]

Omg that was so funny

[surreal token]

I'm debating changing my pfp cos I dont wanna be associated with you degens

[sinful spoke]

Wheres the anime

Thats just baby girl choso

[surreal token]

No, my pfp is just some cutesy shit

[storm rune]

those are boomkin feathers dyed blue

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-gif-13925044497157360596

[sullen dove]

yappa

[sinful spoke]

Omg

[surreal token]

Cheche ur a demon

[sinful spoke]

Swordfish mog is a blue boommin fuirsuit

I see it now

[sinful spoke]

Porque

[sullen dove]

yea

[sinful spoke]

Omg this guy is mid prog yapping in here

[surreal token]

Cheche you can't be talking shit on other mogs

[sullen dove]

^

[surreal token]

ur mog is whole ass

[sinful spoke]

Brother my mog is goated

My ti ts are out

Nice automod

Cant say boobs

[surreal token]

???????

[sinful spoke]

Try it

[surreal token]

all I said was "this dude just has his tit ties out"

[sinful spoke]

Hahahahha

[surreal token]

that's your whole mog

[sinful spoke]

Yeah and theyre goated

Female drachtyr got horchata cannons

[surreal token]

The whole point of playing this shitty class is to have cool xmogs

[sinful spoke]

Well i like looking at pleasing things

And sometimes full plate isnt

Maybe i just wanna raid with one hand

[surreal token]

Too much degen in one person

Ur overloading

[sinful spoke]

Said the midmoto days pfp guy

[storm rune]

what did you think mmo mice were designed for?

[sullen dove]

bro is def just aggy he ain got as much drip as me

[sinful spoke]

This guy gets me

[storm rune]

tanks are in a constant state of anger since they're the only specs in the game that require more than 12 inputs to play

that's the real reason pallys are always up in arms

[surreal token]

I'm in a state of anger cos mfs dont interrupt

and they dont do enough dps to warrant being shit at kicks

[undone flower]

Did you play healer one time ?

[surreal token]

Whatever the opposite of chill guy is - I'm that whenever I do M+ Pugs

[undone flower]

The racist guy ?

When you see that sanguino server it always involves your inner instincts

[surreal token]

I dont know that one

[robust basin]

Any idea what we’re doing with ring this week? Haven’t seen any pins

[sullen dove]

keeping it warm in your bag

until next week

[undone flower]

It’s the Spanish server in EU

There is Pozzo del Eternita for Italians, Hyjal for French and Antonidas for Germans (the ones that revive the ancestral passions)

[spare steppe]

#updates-midnight message

[undone flower]

Idk why there is no polska gurom server but maybe there is not enough

[storm rune]

I'll be honest, I usually play prot and forgot healers exist

[gilded pawn]

its heinous that they kept both armed to the teeth and dual wield spec

[undone flower]

They are the ones with the more buttons in general, they have 3-4 basic dps ones, around 5 basic heal rotation and own def cd, group cds, external cd and utilities

[young swan]

dude?

[storm rune]

I wonder if the on use changes the base stats to int

[golden hare]

that's funny as hell

[lean heart]

is this from the raid next tier? where do u see this

[young swan]

someone linked it in my guild discord

dunno where its from

[undone flower]

In the undermine video they show some items, maybe it’s from there

https://youtu.be/VEQ5lQ6Jf9E?si=3wlr6WqBooMR6y9I

[junior gale]

2 min cd sadge

[undone flower]

You are not ready for that 2 min cd topic

[junior gale]

[oblique trail]

Let's just hope there are 1:30 min trinkets in the raid

Because so far it's not looking good

[storm rune]

imagine if the tome worked for DPS specs tho

[young swan]

yeah we are fucked on dungeon trinkets i fear

[acoustic yoke]

Idk about you but I'm about to roll a myth guidance device and be stuck using it all season

[desert cloud]

Can u swap wpns in combat ?

[oblique trail]

Any with non-special effects yes

[desert cloud]

Does that mean u can use the wpn on use then swap it for some other wpn to avoid playing with int ?

But i guess that's a special effect

[acoustic yoke]

Using an int staff for it's on-use?

[radiant plank]

syncs up with maghar orc racial mhm

new meta

hold avatar to lineup with 2mins

[acoustic yoke]

[storm rune]

I believe you need to read it as two seperate lines

[desert cloud]

I did not read what it did i just read the on use lol

[storm rune]

if in combat stats, out of combat swaps

[clever belfry]

Lycaom is very nice for miyabi, esp if u dont have lighter

[clever belfry]

if u look at any guide, look at jsterns.

[clever belfry]

911

[sullen dove]

o i just use prydwen as like a wowhead esque

dont rly watch videos

but maybe

[untold trench]

Isn't that change to RA going back to how it used to work? Fine by me because i love the speed lol 🤣

[clever belfry]

Pryd is usually okay overview
but it lacks depth

[sullen dove]

but haru/anby/rina fun as hell

dude is so cool

[clever belfry]

Not sure if the J man did a written one too this time, he usually has both

[clever belfry]

if ur rina isnt m1 this is strictly worse than Nicole last slot

[sullen dove]

is it m

but yea she has c1

[clever belfry]

nicole good

[sullen dove]

nicole c2 rina r1

shrugga

nicole def doesnt yap as much as rina tho

skilling for like 50 minutes

[storm rune]

My only hope is the cap for the bleed isn't unreasonably low, blast out enough BBs during reck to keep the bleed rolling until the next time CDs pop

a little downtime protection

[undone flower]

When anger management reduce avatar cd ?

[sullen dove]

neva but doesnt need to berserker good

give 8sec ava

[undone flower]

I main prot so it is not logic in my brain sorry eheh

[river reef]

Are we dooming boys? is it over?

[untold trench]

I also hope we're back to being number 1 again where we belong

[river reef]

number 1 on the bench maybe

[smoky vale]

prydeez

[sullen dove]

thought u said you were goin to bedge bud

[smoky vale]

busy gooning

(fake)

(unless, haha)

[pure breach]

Don’t say that, don’t hurt our feelings even more

[river reef]

its jeover

[smoky vale]

goodnight @sullen dove the robin grows in power

[flat river]

I mean

The changes aren't that bad

[smoky vale]

chef cook them up

[flat river]

The reckless abandon talent is good only IF they buff relentless onslaught

[smoky vale]

what is your shuffle rating rn

[flat river]

2157

[smoky vale]

holy

[flat river]

Highest was 2197

[smoky vale]

you passing me

[flat river]

Biggest change was the PvP one, deathwish now makes you grow larger

[smoky vale]

i went like 2-4 a few weeks ago and havent queued since

[flat river]

I find that my counter is devastation evoker and arms warrior

[smoky vale]

we aint queuing

[flat river]

Is that mine?

Or yours

[smoky vale]

mine

[flat river]

Oh

[river reef]

what is relentless onslaught?

[sudden tusk]

the best way to pvp

[bitter palm]

pvp

[sudden tusk]

is at the start of the season blast 2100

[flat river]

The thing that

[sudden tusk]

then afk rest of the season

[flat river]

Makes recklessness procs

When u rampage

[bitter palm]

gio why are u pvping

[smoky vale]

i legit have 0 clue what im doing in pvp

0 clue

0

[bitter palm]

charge blasy all cds

either u die or they die

[smoky vale]

i show up do my pve rotation and coinflip

🙂

[bitter palm]

same

[wispy bridge]

same

[bitter palm]

based pvp

[smoky vale]

all these dogshit pvpers dont know how to do dam

[bitter palm]

pauck plays like that too i heard

[smoky vale]

pauck is my goat

[flat river]

@river reef nvm i mean unbridled ferocity

[velvet obsidian]

Titans torment change... Are we cooked in M+? Also maybe buff execute so we actually want to take SD next time Blizz...

[river reef]

Ohh

[flat river]

If they buff it back to 20

Or even 10-15

It would be viable again with reckless abandon talent

[sudden tusk]

arms tier

[river reef]

just make each strike of rampage have a 6% change

[smoky vale]

prob

[flat river]

🤔

Just make fury actually execute targets

Make me able to crit 1.8 million execute crit like i did once in PvP

[young swan]

gonna be much more restrained to doing damage in cd's or have to pray for RA procs

[sudden tusk]

6% unbridald procs

[young swan]

yeah that thing needs god

[flat river]

Real

[young swan]

idk why its 6% lol

[sudden tusk]

god i hope we get something decent at 1.5

[flat river]

Make at atleast 12%

[young swan]

idk they should just make it a flat rage amount

[sudden tusk]

oterhwise were about to be 3min class

for trinkets

[young swan]

stop the cringe rng shit

or make it % chance per rage spent like DRE

dont really care which

but they REALLY need to address the fact that our capstones fucking blow

[sudden tusk]

im like 100% arms pilled with these changes next tier

[flat river]

Real

[sudden tusk]

even if they give us a gorillian adds cleave is so good now

[flat river]

Like atleast with that RA change make it work

[sudden tusk]

and with the execute change to collosal might you ca njust drop a point from EP

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/781981140009091075/1262038871915630705/uE4zD.gif

This blizz rn

[sudden tusk]

its hard to say how decent the change is

[young swan]

doing some shit like this for aoe might make me blow my head off (ty banezi)

[radiant plank]

batchest

[young swan]

if they made DoI increase the duration of UF as well that might make it tolerable

but u know

they are NOT gonna do that

[radiant plank]

first round o changes guys

theres still time to iterate

[young swan]

yeah im just malding about the shit they didnt touch

[sudden tusk]

should chnge DoI so rage spend increases reck duration while its active

[radiant plank]

Arms jumpscare

[young swan]

saMe as always

[young swan]

[radiant plank]

this shit is soo ass

[clever belfry]

that fucking druid thing?

[clever belfry]

keep coping buddy

[river reef]

Next thing blizzard does is bring back RA charge

(im joking blizzard dont take notes)

[young swan]

yeah

it was like 600 AP for CA or some shit?

[clever belfry]

Me when i know for a fact RA charge was listed as BAD in a feedback doc that got directly wired to the dev in SL beta
(eg last boss plaguefall)

[young swan]

cant remember

[radiant plank]

Yes

[river reef]

I remember first boss plaguefall spellreflect

[radiant plank]

Guys why is lock getting special treatment again

with their actually good tiersets

[young swan]

what the fuck lol

what is that

[clever belfry]

Still ass, but atleast usable

[sudden tusk]

the demo one

[young swan]

feel like getting troll racial for free from a tier set is kind of odd compared to literally everyone else

[radiant plank]

xddd

[sudden tusk]

Really hope the new dungeons have some solid trinkets

[clever belfry]

okay yeah they have real bonuses

[sudden tusk]

because rn the int trinkets are insane once again

[clever belfry]

xd

[young swan]

lol

[radiant plank]

no suprises here

[clever belfry]

melee trinkets can't be good

[sudden tusk]

the only decent trinkets in raid are 3 goddamn minutes

[young swan]

guess we're gonna be playing 3 min!

[radiant plank]

lol fire mage

[young swan]

people called me crazy for wanting 3 min cd;s

eat shit

[radiant plank]

Ahead of the curve

[young swan]

sorry for lashing out

[radiant plank]

Avatar is 3 min cd

[clever belfry]

we have 3min

[radiant plank]

but its 1.5min cd

[clever belfry]

avatar can get deleted

boring ahhh cd

[young swan]

real

[radiant plank]

Praying for that

[clever belfry]

20% zzzZzZzZz

siegebreaker was better somehow

🎰🎰🎰

[young swan]

im so bored

[clever belfry]

I'm in bed

[golden hare]

go play aram

[sudden tusk]

you didnt like your 30 minutes of island content

[clever belfry]

I could get up

[young swan]

frick leage

[golden hare]

!!

[radiant plank]

madox is your new yap sesh worth listening

did u have any based takes

[clever belfry]

if Avatar deletion isn't in, its bad

wcyd

[young swan]

i'll let u know

[sudden tusk]

my only based take was that next tier is looking like a collossus arms tier

[river reef]

[golden hare]

[clever belfry]

I think im quitting

[young swan]

reasonable

just as u came back

[sudden tusk]

and that im not a fan or at least right now im really not sure about how i feel about RA

[young swan]

[sudden tusk]

i really liked the general throughput it gave us outside of cds

[radiant plank]

Its already colossus tier

I ran like 3 r1's on arms overall as colossus on wednesday

[sudden tusk]

i mean its the casino tier

play the casino arms spec

did you proc 20% or 35% to get another MS?

[radiant plank]

exhil + blord

stonks

[clever belfry]

bro I've been playing since start of df s2

[young swan]

@sudden tusk down for yap at some point over the holidays

[young swan]

feels like yesterday

[plush raven]

So we gamble now?

[radiant plank]

no

arms gambles

fury eats dirt

[sudden tusk]

yeah ill dm you and we can figure out a day or somethin im not doin shit

[clever belfry]

nommies :3

[young swan]

think im busy 21, 25, 26 and everything else is freelo

[sudden tusk]

ive just been mode PoE for the last 100 hours

and i am now mode bedge

was playing some marval rivels

[radiant plank]

Why is this showing up when i search ur name

[young swan]

rivals fun

[clever belfry]

westoid overwatch

[sudden tusk]

hey man if i show up at all when you search my name ill take it as a win

[radiant plank]

mad ox wow

[young swan]

u mean eastoid right

its literally made by china

[sudden tusk]

im still so sad

[radiant plank]

me when marvel game installs cryptominer to my pc

[clever belfry]

no it's westoid coded game

[young swan]

oh

i guess

[clever belfry]

OW is korea OW

[young swan]

they got some fuckin CAKE too GODDAMN

its actually insane

[sudden tusk]

only thing i really dont like about rivals is how everything is a proj nd they all start on the left side of your crosshair

[young swan]

there are legit some skins that give characters bigger ass

[sudden tusk]

it makes dealing with melee characters a nightbare

[radiant plank]

Proud magik main here

[sudden tusk]

the Psyloke skin lmao

[junior gale]

gaming is healing I telll you

[sudden tusk]

legit just removes her pants