fury

[covert blaze]

key parses dont mean anything

[inner harbor]

yes it does fuck you mean

[covert blaze]

it really doesnt

[oblique trail]

3 ilvl does not matter that much when it comes to comparing classes in M+

[radiant plank]

I think this example of the Holy priest 2 set

2pc: Your healing spells have a chance to apply Insurance! to their targets that heals them for 805,686 over 15 sec. Insurance! is consumed if an ally drops below 40% health to heal them for 386,756.

it gives to me atleast

an image that its role wide 2p

so all healers will have this

[sullen dove]

yea i mean that can be slapped on any healer and do the same yea

[radiant plank]

same with the tank one

2pc: Each time you take damage you have a chance to cast Shield Wall for 4.0 sec and gain Luck of the Draw!, which increases your damage dealt by 15% for 10 sec.

Just replace shield wall with meta/wings/incarn

[sullen dove]

it is "more likely" for it to be role based over multiple classes

just saying its "possible" they mean per class

but just not probably

[radiant plank]

I would think

they separate ranged and melee dps

like they did with aberrus hat enchant

[covert blaze]

i bet it's per role inside the class like i said

hopefully

otherwise it's really boring

[radiant plank]

Would be kinda weird then no?

tanks get all unique tiers

but dps are sharing

[covert blaze]

i mean tbh whichever is the case is weird and lazy in my opinion

[radiant plank]

yeah that one I agree

[covert blaze]

instead of doing regular 2pc4pc

but yeah idk

if they want to be lazy

or make 1 set bonus for whichever reason per spec

then it would make sense that it works like you said

for balance or less development or whatever

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[sullen dove]

wonka

[proven flare]

should we strive for 100% uptime of enrage in keys?

not sure if thats possible

[errant vessel]

we kill on the pull I sac myself for charge

[sullen dove]

yea i mean high 90s or something

[proven flare]

ah ok rgr ty

[errant vessel]

but it's over now

[sullen dove]

ideally if ur playing semi right and just hitting rampage when you should youre pretty much doing 95% of the work

[errant vessel]

big

[sullen dove]

big massive

if we've clawed through intermission 2 like once with 4 ppl alive u think kill possible next day

surely p3 is easy

[covert blaze]

are you progging silken

[sullen dove]

ya

[covert blaze]

ish

o

i thought you were on queen for some reason

[sullen dove]

[covert blaze]

queen easier tho

[sullen dove]

my guild is only good on meme seasons for some reason

probably cuz we've also done all the bosses before

only time i get to have fun is during fated and awakened

holding out hope they bring it back a 3rd time!!!

[covert blaze]

[smoky vale]

soerdih can you be gm of a guild

[sullen dove]

hell no

[smoky vale]

so i can join

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-glass-water-cat-wizard-gif-4890984158265410795

[covert blaze]

yummers

[smoky vale]

swordihs beeds to be my gm

now!!

[frigid temple]

gz on kill atleast

We got to <25% so we probably get kill 2nd night after break

[willow cradle]

We wiped so many times to p3 last night

It's hectic during prog

[sinful spoke]

new raid mount is insane

i will farmm this shit so hard

[weary sail]

Only to use it twice and then stash it in ur 759 mounts collection

[sick jacinth]

Hey guys, have a question
How do you manage to survive KyVeza as a fury warrior? 🤔

[radiant plank]

er sr

hs hpot

stay enraged

[covert blaze]

iv

[sick jacinth]

iv?

[covert blaze]

impending victory

dstance very good too

when youre sitting in narnia to explode

[warm crag]

not much that can kill you as a fury warrior on kyveza if you press your defensives

go in dstance and spellreflect for lines, charge back to impending victory, leap out

statistically you can probably get away with a healthstone/hpot per line too

press your buttons in intermission you'll be fine i personally like cycling: taking one raw -> IV -> ER -> SR final set but it literally doesnt matter just press your stuff

[sick jacinth]

i'm a gm and our warrior struggle a bit, i'll give him the info - thanks

[gleaming talon]

What raid?

[covert blaze]

season 2 raid

undermine zone

goblin stuff

[flat river]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/first-look-at-season-2-tier-sets-in-patch-11-1-role-based-gear-sets-355124

only prot and holy out rn though

[verbal garden]

Its probably just in my head but does it feel like fury plays slower after a big patch? After every patch I feel like I'm playing in mud/slow-mo.

[mossy fox]

do you mean after every expansion

anyway if you're playing powerful enrage you'll always feel slower than normal fury

[verbal garden]

No, even with the last update

[mossy fox]

then no idea sorry

feels same to me

[sonic shoal]

Did you equip the new ring instead of something with high haste?

[verbal garden]

No, not using that. What's the ideal haste %?

[sonic shoal]

There's none. Just sim yourself

[trim hound]

Anyone else have a lot better frame rate in raid this week? Broodtwister actually felt nice to play lmao

[errant vessel]

why're so many people using TR on Sikran and Kyveza now?

instead of spear

[oblique trail]

Because they're lazy

Myself included

And it's not like it stops you from doing good damage either

[acoustic yoke]

tbh i didn't think of going TR for Ky'veza

actually a shout tbh

[oblique trail]

Well ideally you still go Spear

Roar just isn't that far behind at all

Been a while since I checked, but should roughly be 1%~?

[warm crag]

dunno about roar on kyveza

you never press cd sets while something is happening

[acoustic yoke]

tbf my dmg on ky'veza rn is shit so i guess i'm just looking for any thing atm xd

[oblique trail]

Roar will not make you do more damage on Kyveza

[acoustic yoke]

ik but i need to cope somehow

it's just likely my brain having to adjust to playing st build after a long time

[tropic ocean]

What do you mean by "when something is happening"?

[slim coral]

That warrior tier 2 mog is ugly as fuck

[ornate gust]

🔥 Queen is DEAD.. 19 players and 1 backup casual healer 🔥

[warm crag]

forced movement like getting a mechanic

[warm crag]

sounds like 20 players to me

[feral ivy]

which yall pref shard or mark?

[modest condor]

shard

[smoky vale]

transmitter

[errant vessel]

ah okay I thought it was because of something like using BB every Ramp cast means higher Gushing uptime

[oblique trail]

There's no merit to using Roar on ST over Spear

[errant vessel]

(which the APL doesn't suggest that we should unless >2 bloodcraze or <35% health)

[oblique trail]

So yeah

I've parsed single ranks on Sikran with Roar (and full AoE talents)

So genuinely you could just play whatever you want at the end of the day

[errant vessel]

ye fight length variance and procs have a way bigger influence

was just surprised seeing that many using roar now

also given how much easier it is to use spear now compared to pre-rework of it

[oblique trail]

Almost every single parse on Sikran in the top 20 is 3+ minutes, except like 3

Except mine where we always kill right before 3 min

Which is great

Does not feel particularly amazing seeing CDs be ready in 5 sec when boss dies

[forest owl]

guild wiped at 5% on brood

i could've known it'd be a wipe, i was doing too good lol

[whole yacht]

big rip

[random hill]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/undermine-ptr-development-notes-huge-class-changes-unveiled/

[junior knoll]

xD

[random hill]

^ KEKW

i laughed my ass off on that shit too

[junior knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-15026665708250862977

[craggy sleet]

bye bye whatever st we had

[forest owl]

yeah the way im reading that is, we want to make RA worse to make AM feel better.

[sour frigate]

or making furrior more bursty

[coarse nest]

Just delete warrior at this point???

[elfin wagon]

It is in a good place (from our pov) so lets nerf it xD

[flat river]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/season-2-mythic-changes-new-and-reworked-affixes-new-achievement-for-no-depletes-355135

[onyx spire]

bro

these changes hurt to read

[hard widget]

Did they just make arms better in every content for next patch? xd

[junior knoll]

i mean we are not awful, but i get 90 parses against a surv hunters 75 and i'm barely ahead of him by like 50k dmg

[forest owl]

🧐

[celest sierra]

Bro yall seen the new tier set bonuses ?

[forest owl]

looks like mostly all rng sets for everyone? xD

[willow cradle]

This looks like garbage

[lean heart]

man what the hell

[willow cradle]

I love gambling but not with my raid performance lmao

[celest sierra]

Few classes getting who tree redesigns .. yet fury still has single minded fury in our class tree 🤦‍♂️

[native walrus]

We have even more rng then other classes.. wtf

[celest sierra]

I thought Blizz said S1 tier was purposely designed to be weak because the future sets are gunna be stronger . Only thing stronger here it seems is the rng

[snow edge]

How good, dooming on preliminary changes has already commenced

[flat river]

ok

[hard widget]

Only took em 5 months to realise

🙂

But hey, they play the game ^^

[chilly fractal]

just not warrior

[short silo]

nice sets are all the same rng clown fest and dogshit

[lean heart]

these tier sets are garbage aint no way

[flat river]

i like how they did this but odyns is still nerfed

[snow edge]

Crazy right, especially since there'll be no more changes

[vale dove]

Blizz been smoking some crack here

[hard widget]

So guys, any reroll suggestions?

[winged charm]

same tierset again with some extra words too it

nice

[hard widget]

For next patch?

[onyx spire]

reroll classic warrior

[coarse nest]

Oh easy

Ret paladin

[fickle cedar]

but then i would fall asleep

[coarse nest]

It’s extremely eye opening how knee capped we are on warrior

When you play a ret

But really it just means we play an arms season until they fix the trash

[clever path]

what the fuck happened

[coarse nest]

Datamined ptr changes

[proven hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[clever path]

shits so cooked its charcoal

Warrior tier looks trash tier

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[flat river]

LMFAO THEY BUFFED RESTO SHAMAN

[fickle cedar]

yeah the tier is gambling shit wtf

[clever path]

Like bruh. Have you guys seen the warlock one? “Oh you hit a jackpot and just do big hits randomly”

[maiden ingot]

Literally any other Melee.

[clever path]

Warrior one is “oh you randomly get pissed on”

[lilac basin]

NO MORE DEPLETED KEY FOR AVERAGE PLAYERS

THANK YOU

[fickle cedar]

at least we'll have more survival now

[random hill]

we were tanky anyway

where the fuck is my bloodlust on warrior

[maiden ingot]

Does the average usually make it to 2850? Because that whole shtick reads like it's a reward from the Achievement, not the baseline.

[clever path]

Also the change to the avatar odyns is Garbo

[acoustic yoke]

i had hope that they'd change some of the actual shit talents but it's only first ptr notes

[wispy bridge]

Caint wait for the depressed Critcake video about this xD

[fickle cedar]

like if they're happy with it why make such big changes to some main talents ??

[clever path]

Love blizzards reason for the changes “warriors looking good so let’s fuck it up”

[forest owl]

archi on his way to tell us how shit the changes are lets goooooooooooo

[wispy bridge]

Next tier is gambling so in that theme they are gambling with the viability of warrior, its lore accurate

[hard widget]

There are barely any changes

[winged charm]

we just lost some talentpoints cause they randomly spawned 2 point nodes and the new tset is as boring as the last 3

[warped bone]

Hunter MM and BM set seems pretty good

[winged charm]

RA might be less mindnumbing to play now

[feral ivy]

where u seeing this

nvm i see it

[hard widget]

They made it more mindnumbing

[fickle cedar]

calling for a wipe after losing my winning streak

[fleet horizon]

https://i.imgur.com/zp8R92J.png

fuck fuck fuck no no no

[winged charm]

well at least for me it cant get any worse then having my rota be 321321321321 because god forbid i spend my rage before i hit my buffed spells

[hard widget]

Now its gonna be 3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2

Removing the having to rampage to gain bb / cb made it so that u had to get more value out of them by clicking them

Now u dont care

[smoky vale]

XD

[undone flower]

hi jev

[proven hornet]

Based

[hard widget]

hi happy

[proven hornet]

They saw all complains and just said fuck it

[fickle cedar]

is it an arms angle ?

[winged charm]

surely AM will just be better now

[feral ivy]

LOL that was quick

[hard widget]

To be honest, on m+ aspect they are adressing loads of good chanes

But for the rest of it, what the fuck are they doin

[celest anchor]

[warped bone]

This is some hot garbo when it comes to fury tier

[coarse nest]

[warped bone]

Hunter BM can what it sounds like almost get perma wrath. We get a buffed BT or RB xD

[coral swift]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-modern-warfare2-stare-meme-2022-gif-27104713

they got some balls saying that

[coarse nest]

DiAl BaCk FuRyS bUrSt

[sonic shoal]

Instead of getting some uniqueness which was awesome and fun they got lazy with the tier sets -,-
And on top they're taking away the nice flow of RA. I feel like we're gonna hit like a wet noodle without CD's now

[coarse nest]

We already have shit damage outside of CDs

It’s the point of a burst profile

[foggy scarab]

it gonna be worse

[primal python]

just bring us back to end of season 1 DF I beg

[foggy scarab]

by a lot

[whole yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-shit-up-time-to-fuck-shit-up-war-games-eko-video-gif-11457073

^ blizzard rn

[foggy scarab]

why bliizzard is trowing tsets on gambling sites?

[hard widget]

When the intern gets assigned a project this is what happens

[coarse nest]

ChatGPT tier sets

[feral ivy]

im more intrigued how AM vs RA will be played

[coarse nest]

We will just play AM again surely

[native walrus]

Nah, they would be better then

[coarse nest]

Back to haste stacking am gameplay loop

[foggy scarab]

this version of RA should be base classe not a choice node lol

[coarse nest]

[foggy scarab]

so we could use AM and have more reck uptime at least

[warped bone]

When did they say that?

[thick fossil]

Wow, we start gain just a hint of stability and bam. Boot heel right to the face.....

[whole yacht]

blizzard is like a rich dude sitting on his chair messing with poor people. "give him a liiiiiiiittle taste. now TAKE IT AWAY AHAHAHAHA"

[misty sierra]

surely we gonna get buffed tomorrow

[native walrus]

at least we are S-Tier in terms of the "Slot-Machine" spec. (and we are the customers ofc.) /s

[warped bone]

If there are no tier changes I might just go pala alt for a tier. This be getting silly

[opal zenith]

Thats why I just play both

[feral ivy]

i mean is this a nerf or a buff.. dk

[silver shell]

link to fury tier for S2? mustve missed it

[hard widget]

Dont worry guys, they'll give us another 90$ mount to compensate

[covert blaze]

parsing gonna be real interesting next tier

[clever belfry]

balls

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[violet condor]

is it just me or is the tier set terrible?

[silver shell]

whats the tier set? havent seen it

[crisp prism]

isnt this too weak ?

[violet condor]

in updates

[winter shoal]

I just went through all the effort of updating WoWAnalyzer to properly handle RA and then they changed RA

[calm swallow]

Yknow people join Anon groups for gambling i don't love it being part of my fuckin tier set lol

[violet condor]

thats what im thinking

[dapper goblet]

this tier set is karma for all you s3 voters

[feral ivy]

they better not remove fast footwork because of this

[winter shoal]

SO TRUE

[silver shell]

hahah so we're playing whack-a-mole next tier?

[crisp prism]

no

seems like we are playing arms

[thick fossil]

Arms is gonna be even more gamba....

[foggy scarab]

have you seen arms tset?

hahah

[feral ivy]

arms t set seems good no? idk dont play arms

[compact knot]

"nerfs"

[crisp prism]

seems like lots of overpower spam

[compact knot]

idk if you can call them nerfs

[thick fossil]

Man, I don't want to be a doomer but man your name seems kinda on point.

[foggy scarab]

it would be better to say warrior is deadge

[compact knot]

comparing the fury tier set to the fire mage tier set, furys is extremely weak

[crisp prism]

tbh talent changes kinda seems like idk how to feel about that too

[compact knot]

so

[crisp prism]

same talent getting reworked same way every 1.5 years ?

[wise trout]

Sets are cooked but i like recklessness change

Sounds neat

[crisp prism]

i mean

isnt that basically reverting

[compact knot]

no

[foggy scarab]

but outside cds we're cooked aren't we?

[orchid dagger]

We've always been

[crisp prism]

this is basically old reckless abandon with little change no ?

[thick fossil]

It will depend on how they rework the tree.

[compact knot]

has kinda always been like this

and is for a lot of specs

[warm crag]

this is a good damage pattern to have

[vernal laurel]

Guys are we cooked?

[warm crag]

you want to be garbage outside of cds

[crisp prism]

idk seems like we are to me

[spare oriole]

Why are we just down a talent in the class tree and an extra talent in spec tree (slayer) for Fury now? RA change is omega-bad. Further AoE nerfs (via roar talent). idk folks, seems like they were not happy with how Fury is atm.

[thick fossil]

I guess it will depend on AM's interaction with recklessness buff?

[willow cradle]

Fuck dude, the recklessness change is ass, I love the gameplay loop it brought

[feral ivy]

Outside reworks (dk if reworks will be buff or nerf) where are yall seeing nerfs? only 1 nerf and that’s 10% off roars bleed

[crisp prism]

maybe reworked crushing blow and bloodbath is actually cracked

[orchid dagger]

The RA change is good because you get the buffed versions throughout the entire CD

[foggy scarab]

idk all that just looks like RA should be a passive in our class and we should have AM se we're not so bad

[winter shoal]

"We want fury to be less bursty during cds"
"Lets shift a bunch of rotational power into fury cds"
Thanks blizzard

[pseudo dawn]

Now I just hope we are complete dog shit 💩 and they have to buff us lmao everyone get ready to sand bag

[vernal laurel]

I just wanted bloodlust man

[compact knot]

they think redesign = nerf, while we also have no numbers for these at all

[orchid dagger]

We won't have to sandbag lmao

[crisp prism]

get ready for 3% buff 5 weeks after the patch release

[pseudo dawn]

I want to get enhance busted and just left alone for the entire season 🤷‍♂️😂

[compact knot]

less bursty in aoe probably

which they did do

so

[winter shoal]

Yeah, there's also a difference between the 4s of OF and the 20s of reck, I'm just xddChatting

[willow cradle]

Also titans torment reducing rampages rage cost seems kinda dumb, seeing as how we're very likely to have Reck up at the same time as Avatar, this just means we cap rage even more.

[feral ivy]

One person said nerf and now everyone else is saying it .. but I don’t see nerf in anything but roar and mms

[crisp prism]

so they want us to spam rampage

[warped bone]

Have you seen Hunter MM and BM? 😄

[crisp prism]

maybe thane is 100% the play

[winter shoal]

Wouldn't be skyhold without a little coffinposting

[compact knot]

no i dont play that dogshit class noob

[warped bone]

BM at least seems disgustingly strong with their added class changes

[spare oriole]

MM Hunter has huge and amazing changes though.

[warped bone]

Neither do i? But i can read still

[warm crag]

rahtae noober soon i will apply and we will be 3 warriors again

[inner zinc]

new RA makes me wish i could also talent into AM for the increase reck uptime

[warped bone]

Naa, I'll be going pala @warm crag if there are no changes

[foggy scarab]

thats what i said

RA should be a passive

[warm crag]

there are changes announced noober

[crisp prism]

am i tripping ? isnt this basically old ra

without cb charge

[warm crag]

i cba making an opinion until this is on PTR and testable

[flat river]

Yep

[warped bone]

That was the point yes.

[foggy scarab]

so we could talent AM

[spare oriole]

Yeah it's the old old OG RA.

[warped bone]

Good changes my love

[crisp prism]

then i doubt we will be playing ra

outside of st

[warm crag]

idk current fury is Not Good so a new coat of paint wont be too bad

[winter shoal]

A reasonable take???? In MY warrior discord????

[warped bone]

Reads as real eh tho Spongie

[compact knot]

titans torment might be really good with thane ST

actually

[warped bone]

I don't want RNG shit

[warm crag]

its not even a take it is the categorical lack of a take

[winter shoal]

Spongie if you don't coffinpost within the next 5 mins I'm pinging Archi and having him ban you

[crisp prism]

probably thane is the play now with tier set rampage and avatar procs from thane

[calm swallow]

This deserves the Dwayne Johnson "it's the biggest piece of dogshit" response

[crisp prism]

but idk tier seems too weak

[acoustic yoke]

well hopefully they listen to the feedback forums this time

[compact knot]

yeah im thinking thane will become really good with that change and the new tier set, back to the bloodthirst playstyle which i personally found fun

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/godfather-massacre-sad-gif-16810633

[crisp prism]

maybe time to gear my pala or outlaw rogue idk

[winter shoal]

AM Thane gameplay goes kinda crazy

BT goes BRRRRRR

[upbeat plume]

yeah the rough draft for 11.1 is looking awful lol

[lofty lodge]

my brain is small, what is the bad change?

[compact knot]

if they buffed unbridled ferocity up from 6% i could see titans torment and anger management being super fucking good st

unless im tripping

[upbeat plume]

BB and CB are going back to only during reck

[warm crag]

die UF die

[lofty lodge]

fuck

[winter shoal]

Tier set is kinda wack but it seems like a lot of them are, and also there's still lots of time for them to change. People are mad about RA change I think

[upbeat plume]

this isnt even anything new

[winter shoal]

The TT change is a little sadeg but the new iteration could be interesting

[upbeat plume]

its just what ra used to be

[winter shoal]

We'll need to see how it plays

[upbeat plume]

its fucking garbage

[foggy scarab]

nerf on roar dot is pretty bad too

[crisp prism]

kek

[winter shoal]

I didn't play before DF therefore it's new therefore you're wrong, checkmate atheists

[compact knot]

the fire tier set is insane man

i might have to play fire perma if that doesnt get changed

[crisp prism]

oh also

of dead

i think

[winter shoal]

Mages win again

[upbeat plume]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

XD

[compact knot]

mages stay winning noobs

[acoustic yoke]

well they said they can now buff it independatly of titans

[sudden tusk]

@young swan

YAP

NOW

[crisp prism]

they also said they would balance tier sets during awakened

[thick fossil]

where did you see the roar dot nerf?

[upbeat plume]

that is probably one of the only good things Im seeing out of this

[crisp prism]

i think chatgpt is responsible for warrior class balancing

so gl

[tender fossil]

mage buff vs war buff XDDDDD

[acoustic yoke]

well i can only hope they don't listen to themselves and see that we need some changes that aren't this

but also dev is back on the menu so...

🤷‍♂️

[thick fossil]

I hope they put that damage somewhere else than. ffs

[compact knot]

i can see a build where we run spear instead of troar tbh in m+

[young swan]

later

idk im not SUPER enticed

its cool but i want more

[sudden tusk]

yeah dont have to yap but im just excited the direction is better

[foggy scarab]

if spear was uncapped we could see it working

[sudden tusk]

the reflexive see patch notes and ping

[acoustic yoke]

close your eyes

[foggy scarab]

but i guess we still have a lot of time so blizz could still trow us a bone?

or somethig?

[nimble ermine]

@young swan i didnt read anything, is it good or bad

[sudden tusk]

better

its okay

[nimble ermine]

ok good i can continue poe until s2

[young swan]

its moving in the right direction

[quiet geyser]

You sir must be new.

[compact knot]

i think its fine tbh

[foggy scarab]

its christmas im just trying to be hopefull

[calm swallow]

All of these tier sets just Iook like gambling garbage... are any of these good?

[warm crag]

WHY ARENT YOU DOOMING ???

[covert blaze]

they didnt remove single target reap the storm

unlucky

good changes tho

[analog rivet]

sooooo... any change we play smf for enrage and never use rampage to keep the winning streak up? xD

oh well,... no

[sullen dove]

Zhai with the cook of per class

[crisp prism]

from what i understand you want to cast rampage

when you gain a stack your next bloodthirst or raging blow gets empowered or something

and you probably want winning streak to get removed / restarted ?

[covert blaze]

wishful thinking ig

[crisp prism]

idk

too much rng

[brittle crow]

THE RECKLESS ABANDON IS DEAD

WE PRESS RAMP AGAIN

beast be slain 🙏

[edgy widget]

I wouldn't say it's dead, there's some pretty strong synergy between the new RA, Titans Torment, and Thunderous Words

[brittle crow]

its dead in the sense that it doesnt demolish the entire idea of our rotation for picking it

this is a great change

[upbeat plume]

its not

[edgy widget]

I mean it didn't in the first place, the rotational diff between RA and AM is... fairly small tbh

[jolly mist]

when will they ever make a good warrior set?????

[brittle crow]

AM doesnt overcap to press raging blow tho

that shit felt so bad

[edgy widget]

neither does RA

[jolly mist]

talkin abt looks not the tier bonus

[edgy widget]

you go up to 115, you don't purposefully overcap to spam RB lol

[crisp prism]

tbh s2 and s3 df had op warrior sets , class was just undertuned

[sullen dove]

Oh I thought it was actually per class I read upheaval for shaman and looked away

didn’t look deeper

but 3 distinct 2sets xdd

[brittle crow]

u absolutely overcap to press crushing blow

[edgy widget]

Crushing Blow isn't Raging Blow

[brittle crow]

OK IM SORRY

[sullen dove]

also how are you at 115 rage without pressing cb

[edgy widget]

and you can only push Crushing Blow... after Rampage

so you're unlikely to be capped anyway, outside of cooldowns (which are still going to be rage capped btw)

[crisp prism]

i dont think rage mini game exists since shadowlands

even would argue bfa

[edgy widget]

"push Rampage immediately on cooldown" hasn't existed in a long time

[brittle crow]

the platonic ideal of fury is pressing rampage at 115 rage

if anything else takes priority i get sad

[crisp prism]

archi btw am i understanding this wrong , is the '' new '' ra has reworked cb bb ?

[edgy widget]

yes, BB now triggers a pretty fat bleed and CB has increased crit damage

[crisp prism]

maybe could fix our st issue

[upbeat plume]

guess I just gotta wait for the math then to doom super hardl ol

if at all

[crisp prism]

i'm kinda worried about dungeon aspect atm

[edgy widget]

I think we'll have to see some tuning before making that determination - remember you're using them less frequently in exchange

[upbeat plume]

oh does that bit on the BB wording about the bleed duration is that ignite mechanics or something else?

[edgy widget]

basically the RA change means bigger burst windows but less sustain outside of cooldowns, which is something I'm kind of iffy about

[crisp prism]

well yeah so i'd expect them to hit big

[edgy widget]

I would be incredibly surprised if Bloodbath's bleed did not roll, since virtually all of them do

[thick fossil]

They're kinda turning it into a Temu version of Colossus Smash.

[brittle crow]

they're adding gambling?

I LOVE GAMBLING

[crisp prism]

just like real gambling

you will have 0 control over it

[edgy widget]

I feel like we'll also probably see some tuning - Bloodbath and CB being used less frequently means there's room to buff them beyond their current state (right now they're only ~20% stronger than BT/RB)

[brittle crow]

thats the best part!

i love gambling

[forest owl]

my guild likes to gamble gold rolls between pulls so this tier will feel right at home for most of them.

[rigid stirrup]

finally a warrior tier set that looks decent 🥹

[fickle bluff]

Not the same as igniting though, which is what it needs

[crisp prism]

if i'm only hitting them like 30 secs every 1.5 mins they at least need to do like 70% more damage i assume

cuz remember old ra

outside of cds we were just afk

[upbeat plume]

how thats so much rng it makes me want to puke or did you mean the look lol

[edgy widget]

igniting is rolling
pandemicing is something else

[rigid stirrup]

I'm talking visually

[fickle bluff]

not many things roll then no?

[rigid stirrup]

should've clarified

[upbeat plume]

gotcha then I agree XD

I like the set look

the bonus makes me want to gouge my eyes out

[edgy widget]

most uncontrolled/high proc rate dots do roll

[crisp prism]

arms bonus looks ok tho

[edgy widget]

things like Rend, with longer durations that aren't really meant to trigger repeatedly just pandemic

[celest sierra]

Broo these patch notes are atrocious , every new update is just worse and worse . See the change to Aug jn ?

[rigid stirrup]

It'll maybe get reworked by the time things get released

[thick fossil]

Don't care about Aug, but wtf are they doing now? Buffing them more?

[rigid stirrup]

idk how much excitement they wanted in the tier set

[celest sierra]

They no longer can buff tanks and healers

[rigid stirrup]

but it is pretty boring

[crisp prism]

seems like they really were serious about low power no rotation changing tier sets

[thick fossil]

It looks lack luster.

[edgy widget]

Bloodbath bleed is a full extension btw

[celest sierra]

Wait does this new set means Bloodbatj doesn’t need to crit anymore to apply the dot ?

[fickle bluff]

It's a different dot

[scarlet swift]

Y’all agree?

[edgy widget]

yes

[rigid stirrup]

I'm in the "could be worse" category

[edgy widget]

there were a lot of ups and downs during the early weeks of the patch

[thick fossil]

It's ok right now, but these changes do not help.

[edgy widget]

but Wars are in a pretty decent place now

[rigid stirrup]

ik we won't relive the magic of s3 dragonflight

[crisp prism]

idk i got asked to reroll frost dk 3 months ago to push

[junior gale]

Arms could be a lot better but fury is good

[edgy widget]

pushing is a whole different beast lol

[scarlet swift]

I dunno, i still want ret Utility and ret aoe easy access

[edgy widget]

then play ret

Warrior is never going to have Ret utility

[scarlet swift]

Ret ain’t warrior

[edgy widget]

literally never

[rigid stirrup]

yeah if you're looking for an easy path to title or pushing the highest you're literally taking the hardest road with fury

[scarlet swift]

I hate combo points, let me smash buttons

[thick fossil]

I get they want to shift our power/dps to other abilities, but it just seems like we keep getting the short end of the stick.

[edgy widget]

Fury does have easy AoE though, so idk what that's about

[crisp prism]

i mean i dont really care about utility

[celest sierra]

Can’t compare fury to frost dk rn . Blizzard has had a hard on for frost whole expac so far

[scarlet swift]

WW spam is garbage for your aoe access

[edgy widget]

only reason Frost is meta over Warrior is because of damage tuning

[scarlet swift]

It should be baseline

[crisp prism]

if dmg is good its all that matters

[edgy widget]

WW isn't spammed lol

[scarlet swift]

Every 4 hits

[edgy widget]

that's not spamming

and technically every 5 hits, minus cooldowns

[scarlet swift]

More than anyone else for true aoe

[covert blaze]

yes

[craggy sleet]

ye warr is fine imo

[crisp prism]

if we didnt had our aoe butchered we would be more then fine

those slayers nerfs

[craggy sleet]

never gonna feel the same high as legion juggernaut but still good

[spare oriole]

Why did you have to wound me like that. Bringing up the fun times.

[edgy widget]

Legion Juggernaut sucked

[celest sierra]

I’m lowkey annoyed that other classes are getting reworks in their class trees . Fury needs it . Like seriously all jokes aside , remove SMF and replace it without something we can use

[scarlet swift]

Give me lust/brez/tfury xmog and I’ll love warrior again

[edgy widget]

gl with that

[sinful spoke]

Stay fist weaving deez

[scarlet swift]

It ain’t even alot, it’s base

[craggy sleet]

yeah it fucked with ramp/enrage prio but still very fun to see myself climb in exe phase

[edgy widget]

wasn't even that, it fell off on half the fights

[sinful spoke]

Anyways our tierset doesnt look like shit since s2 of dd

Im happy

[edgy widget]

legion juggernaut was a great idea, but it was one of those things that only looked good in highlight reels
every other time it reset at 20 stacks and your damage was ass

[frail trout]

I'm glad they are trying to make recklessness actually do something as a cd, which might also make the capstones that interact with recklessness not suck

[scarlet swift]

Cheche i miss our fights

[sinful spoke]

Same

[frail trout]

right now reck just feels like a wow classic cd

[celest sierra]

So how exactly will recklessness work now ?

[edgy widget]

Reck isn't changing

[craggy sleet]

or if ur raid was giving you exe phase for free and no one else did damage LOL

[crisp prism]

just like in shadowlands

or bfa

[scarlet swift]

It won’t reset on boss reset still i bet

[frail trout]

I guess its RA that is changing, not reck

[scarlet swift]

Imagine that oversight

[frail trout]

but I like RA

[edgy widget]

Reckless Abandon is changing to allow using Bloodbath and CB while Reck is active, instead of after Rampage

[crisp prism]

1.5 mins dont reset

[scarlet swift]

It should

[crisp prism]

indeed

[scarlet swift]

Indie

[edgy widget]

that's not a Warrior issue, that's a game issue

[crisp prism]

same with trinkets

[scarlet swift]

A game issue that’s a warrior issue

[spare oriole]

1.5mins not resetting is the biggest own goal that's fixable in like 5mins of dev time.

[frail trout]

1.5's not resetting feels very cringe, hope that is improved in the future

[grand orchid]

Friends

I require aid

[celest sierra]

That sounds like a buff to me

[grand orchid]

I need to know what to craft

[junior gale]

I love how instead of designing something new for fury its just eh well revert RA back to SL

[crisp prism]

tbh i like the idea of ra for st am for aoe

[upbeat plume]

would that make UF viable if it procs them lol

[edgy widget]

it's hard to say whether it's better or worse yet - it means bigger cooldown windows, but less sustained damage (cause you're not using BB/CB as regularly anymore)

[scarlet swift]

If chatgpt can’t fix the code, blizzard won’t fix it

[edgy widget]

they should be active during UF procs yes

• will that make UF competitive again? Hard to say at this point

[upbeat plume]

well thats something I gues

[frail trout]

BB and CB are changing as well right

[edgy widget]

please stop talking lol

[upbeat plume]

well see how the math maths

[frail trout]

instead of just being "more damage"

[open prairie]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/augmentation-evoker-can-no-longer-buff-tanks-and-healers-in-patch-11-1-355144?utm_source=discord-webhook
rare blizz w

[crisp prism]

yeah

[celest sierra]

Ah we gotta rely on them proccing now then having them active throughout RA

[crisp prism]

lmao

[frail trout]

bless

[upbeat plume]

yeah CB is a crit damage bonus and BB procs a fat bleed apparently

welp good by friend

lol

saw that coming a mile away

[craggy sleet]

lmao

[edgy widget]

their damage hasn't changed (yet, though I expect it to at some point)

• Bloodbath will now trigger a 6s bleed for 180% AP, which is pretty strong
• Crushing Blow now deals 10% increased crit damage

[celest sierra]

Time to stack crit lmao

[frail trout]

[sudden tusk]

man im really torn

on how fury will feel without reckless abandon

[crisp prism]

ngl i'm pretty much expecting fully am commiting again atm

unless they giga buff them

[hard widget]

They get 25% more effectiveness on their Ebon Might and Breath, not as impactfull if you think. Maybe not at all (in m+)

[fickle bluff]

It will feel almost the exact same

[grand orchid]

Hey does anyone have input on crafting order for items?

Already crafted my Weapon and cloak

[sudden tusk]

no it will not lmao

[fickle bluff]

You'll be pressing the same keys in just about the same way

[cursive ridge]

you won't nonstop overcap rage with reckless abandon

[celest sierra]

Welp new update , they nerfing bloodborne dot

[cursive ridge]

your playstyle outside of reck will not be degen like it is now

[celest sierra]

From 7.5% one talent point to 5% and from 15% 2 talent points to 10%

[cursive ridge]

that is a good change. fury has no cooldown identity atm

[fickle bluff]

Just saying that means you don't know how fury plays currently

[dapper goblet]

@sudden tusk mald

[edgy widget]

Also Titans Torment now reduces Rampage rage cost and Bloodthirst/bath cooldown while Avatar is active

• So the idea is you pop Reck/Avatar/Roar and machine gun low cooldown Bloodbaths that get further buffed by T. Words

[sudden tusk]

suffer blue man

[cursive ridge]

that sounds sick. idk why people are dooming about htis change lol.

[dapper goblet]

blue man will be suffering

[craggy sleet]

lol actually sounds fun lmao

[crisp prism]

tbh this feels like slayer might be giga rip

thane has avatar procs

[fickle bluff]

Rampage rage reduction is borderline useless

[edgy widget]

I mean you dojn't necessarily have to take that talent

[cursive ridge]

current fury is kinda boring. your cooldowns do nothing to change your play. you dont even care about rage barely at all.

[craggy sleet]

slayer will still have a place on shotgunning adds in raid fights tho yeah?

[edgy widget]

Berserker's Torment also still exists

[sudden tusk]

i mean one thig it does do

[pseudo dawn]

ima hold my banter until i see numbers

lol

[sudden tusk]

is giga buff an execute window

[hard widget]

I think they should reduce our target cap a bit further though. Feels like we're doing too good in aoe

[crisp prism]

i mean i'm just yapping , we kinda have to wait to see how strong they are

[high echo]

what do you think so far?

[sudden tusk]

like a 20 second window with perma Bloodbath and rampage spam is gonna be insane damage

[edgy widget]

because they're fearful of what it will look like when the dust settles

• right now they're just ideas, but we don't have any numbers or tuning to know whether it'll work out for better or worse

[craggy sleet]

^ this big time

[edgy widget]

I think the design is interesting, and as much as I like current Reckless Abandon, I can't argue with the dev' notes that it does complicate the rotation a lot, so simplifying it for the average player isn't exactly a bad thing

[pseudo dawn]

exactly i want to see numbers first

[frail trout]

randomly proc'ing recklessness also sounds more fun under the design of the new RA

[celest sierra]

Given blizzards track record with tuning tho . I wouldn’t be excited

[sudden tusk]

one thing i really dont like is how AM interacts with slayer

[frail trout]

you see it proc and just start slamming bloodbaths on gcd

[crisp prism]

desyncs

[hard widget]

Because 9 out of 10 times warrior gets screwed when shit gets changed

[sudden tusk]

Bladestorm just perma desynec

[craggy sleet]

we might be in for a big over correction in the future post patch release

[celest sierra]

Look how fast they nerfed prior to s1 lol

[edgy widget]

I do think making Reck a bigger/better cooldown is a nice idea, though I'm apprehensive that Fury's sustain (which is already kinda mid) will end up in the gutter and we'll just be a 1.5m trick

[crisp prism]

^^ this

[compact knot]

these changes do feel more in favor of mountain thane though which is a W

[crisp prism]

correct me if i'm wrong , only season we really played old ra was sepulcher cuz of the tier set and only on st

[high echo]

tbh i liked the complicated rotation. As it is right now it was like playing the drums with how fast tempo it was

[crisp prism]

and pvp

[edgy widget]

I think they're well intended changes, which promote an interesting design

• I don't know whether they'll necessarily work out to make Warriors great again or just another flavor of same old, same old, but I don't think they're bad changes out of hand at all

[hard widget]

I genuinely only have 1 prayer. Please let next raid be almost purely st, or desynced add timers. So we can finally enjoy a fun m+ season

[thick fossil]

They better lower the cool down on stuff then. Give us something that can compete Ret 30 dps cool down.

[compact knot]

it might be even more so

[high echo]

with Ra moving to Reck? only when u pop cooldowns no?

[craggy sleet]

if i aint breaking my keyboard mid-fury rotation i dont wanna play the spec

[compact knot]

more so with titans torment

[high echo]

right now you don't think about the separate rotation using your CDs that much

[orchid iron]

so this dumb ring doesnt even count as a 639 ring for the purpose of not spending crests on upgrading other rings so thats cool

[edgy widget]

that was my point in saying "as much as I like current RA..."

but the speed/tempo isn't going to change at all - RA has no impact on that

[celest sierra]

Fuse RA with Reck into one talent , and have AM be our capstone

[open prairie]

imagine not having done recraft ring bug already

[compact knot]

yeah because rings are unique and that you need 2 high ilvl rings to upgrade a new ring for free

[undone flower]

I give you 4 / 8 bosses with 45-1.5min adds spawn

[compact knot]

also this ^^^^^^^^^

[orchid iron]

yes, and this one doesnt count as 1 of those 2

[high echo]

idk, as you said outside of CDs it looks a little bland now unless I'm forgetting something

[compact knot]

it should

idk why it wouldnt

[crisp prism]

i think hero talents kinda fill that a bit

[sudden tusk]

the thing i liked about RA was how outside of CDs it felt like we did damage

[edgy widget]

I didn't say outside of CDs looks bland, I said that sustained damage outside of CDs will go down, which is the obvious result of moving RA to Reck

[sudden tusk]

it feels like we are doubling down

[orchid iron]

probably because it doesnt have a "track"

[sudden tusk]

if anything id rather a slight nerf to our CDs and turn into 1min class

[celest sierra]

Feels like warrior is just a bad class this expansion

[sudden tusk]

if they want to change the gameplay like this

[celest sierra]

Compared to others

[high echo]

yes i know, my opinion was that it does look bland now for me. i worded it badly my b

[clever path]

Wait, how is RA rotation complicated ?

[edgy widget]

Yes that was my point - RA is trading sustained damage for burst damage

[sinful spoke]

Is there already maths done for the latest wowhead post

[edgy widget]

there are no maths to do yet

[high echo]

theres actually some decent nuance to the current fury slayer rotation

[sinful spoke]

I c

[sudden tusk]

they (should) be buffing OF to compensate

so its a realy button again

[crisp prism]

no more double of

[celest sierra]

They should uncap fury aoe

[crisp prism]

that buff should be giga lol

[clever path]

Decent nuance isn't complicated lol

[frail trout]

I like the premise of the RA change, if it ends up being a negative hopefully they will correct the issues

[high echo]

i don't like that change titan's torment

[clever path]

yeah odyns needs a buff since we lose an entire use

Fury's rotation is still among the easiest one in the gamr

[sudden tusk]

i think titans torment was very unhealthy for our aoe burst

so i dont mind that

but the RA change im not a fan of rn

[high echo]

i mean the rotation changes on the fly and its quite fast paced

[crisp prism]

i mean unless we are playing this new ra for m+ i'm okay with it

[clever path]

im fine with the RA change if they buff our regular rotation to make up for only having big hits less of the time

[thick elbow]

got the warrior tier set looks like trash appearance wise. sigh

[junior gale]

Titans torment change is good

[thick elbow]

*god

[sinful spoke]

Wait what are the RA changes

[crisp prism]

basically revert

old ra

[clever path]

Yeah, losing CB BB outside of Reck seems kinda big for our damage outside CDs... We'll see, 11.1 is still far away from us

[crisp prism]

with cb bb a bit reworked

[junior gale]

Revert to old RA because blizzard has 0 creativity when it comes to warrior

[high echo]

idk guys, maybe I hate change but these are pretty significant changes to the playstyle

[thick fossil]

This is something we have to wait and see. Something tells me we'll be doing tank dps outside cool downs.

[edgy widget]

losing the instant OF does hurt Fury's instant burst (what allows it to snipe adds in raid); it also means we lose that 45s snare break from Ava proc, which has been clutch in several encounters

But hopefully they can use that as an opportunity to buff OF, since we only get one cast instead of two now

[sinful spoke]

LIKE SL RA?

[edgy widget]

I think making a love/hate determination right now is extremely preemptive
but again, most people tend to dislike unknown changes, and right now this is an unknown, because we don't have enough info to tell how well it will work out or not

[crisp prism]

yes

no cb charge tho

or spam bb

but cb and bb are reworked

[celest sierra]

Ideally if they wanna make RA feel like a cooldown , combine it with Recklessness as one talent node . That way recklessness and RA will feel like we actually pressed a CD button .

Make AM our capstones with urs support nodes being that rampage lowers the CD on Recklessness and the second one can be Recklessness last longer

[silk wharf]

Those set bonuses make me gag alittle.

[crisp prism]

guys

i have the best solution

[sinful spoke]

This is kinda confusing

[high echo]

yeah no you are right..I think its a case of "burnt too many times" for some

[crisp prism]

AM baseline but weaker

[sinful spoke]

Ig gotta wait till ptr to test it

[crisp prism]

and talent to get stronger

gg

[edgy widget]

they need to get over it and realize that it's a video game that's constantly evolving lol

[high echo]

i mean in reality these changes are away for a decent while, some of them may not even go live

[clever path]

Yeah I hope they are keeping an eye on OF because if the spell isn't helped it will just disapear next season like Onslaught rn

[crisp prism]

bb now leaves a bleed and cb does 10% increase crit dam or something

[edgy widget]

and yeah, absolutely right - we will probably see more changes as time goes on

[sinful spoke]

God i fucking hate onslaught

And sks

[sinful spoke]

Yeah but u cant spam it right?

[crisp prism]

dont think so

[sinful spoke]

So what its the same as now? Cb into bb into rampage

[crisp prism]

probably

[sinful spoke]

Zzzz

[crisp prism]

but its tied to reck

[fickle bluff]

Almost with ttorment

[sinful spoke]

How long is reck 10s?

[crisp prism]

you can probably double cb

or triple

[edgy widget]

Reck is 12 base, +8 from Berserkers, +4 from DoI

[craggy sleet]

ye we'll be popping bb's during our reck windows with the changes as they are + titan's torment

[sudden tusk]

20 with torment

[crisp prism]

20 sec

holy f just realized

thats bad

[sinful spoke]

I feel like itll feel bad

[sour frigate]

+4 depths of insanity

[sinful spoke]

Very bad

[craggy sleet]

depths time???? LOL

[edgy widget]

maybe

if Reck is that much better

[high echo]

there was a sneak thunderous roar nerf in there too lol

[crisp prism]

i forgot about the nerfs to reck uptime

[edgy widget]

DoI was very close to being used already

[sinful spoke]

Cause fuck warriors

[edgy widget]

everything is gonna get retuned so I wouldn't read too much into it

[celest sierra]

Bloodborne got nerfed also

[clever path]

Y lol because we still do too much damage for them

[sudden tusk]

our execute if you build for it is gonna be insane

[high echo]

yeye you guys are right, was just a little funny

[craggy sleet]

yeah i can definitely see bb's bleed on top of cshb's in 5 targ aoe could be reallly nasty if its gonna stay the way it is

[feral ivy]

the only nerf we see so far is

[edgy widget]

you guys really can't focus on "x got nerfed" and act like the sky is falling this early on

[crisp prism]

anyways c ya all when we get actual info i guess

cuz atm we kinda have nothing to count

[clever path]

That's part of the plot

[sinful spoke]

This is what casters do and they get buffed maybe we should too

[edgy widget]

these are broad strokes, not fine tuning - Words got nerfed because Arms has a shit load of bleed damage already and Fury is getting another big source of bleeds via RA

[clever path]

We aren't fury anymore if we don't cry over nerfs

[craggy sleet]

we go fury no matter what 🙏

[barren ore]

those set shoulders will look great on tauren ^^

[craggy sleet]

the leg and boots look pretty baller

[sudden tusk]

i mean

[craggy sleet]

not sure about the chestplate tho

better than s3 df set tho

[sudden tusk]

the reinforced plates chages

are a MASSIVE W

[crisp prism]

can anyone ss that

i'm in bed

[sudden tusk]

plates are now a 2 point node

5% stam and armor per point

endurance training for free

crazy

[craggy sleet]

big surv buff if sticking like this

[modest condor]

it's getting moved up the tree as well

[craggy sleet]

and overwhelming is being swapped to a one-pointer

[feral ivy]

high chance they might remove

[craggy sleet]

5% ms BIS

[modest condor]

yeah but we'll get movespeed from dual wield spec now

[craggy sleet]

yeye

[feral ivy]

yea all we losing is 1% mms

😦

[modest condor]

then again, prot gets leech from 1h spec and they still have the base leech talent like the other 2 specs do

[sinful spoke]

Arms is slow now omegalol

[modest condor]

also that

[high echo]

i think we get +%1 damage from dual wield spec too

[craggy sleet]

if we're swapping to frenzied regardless we already get 10%

[iron plaza]

I am skeptical over returning RA to pre DF version because it wasn't worth buffing Reck window for our general window damage to suck but we'll see, It might be different this time

[feral ivy]

yea but 1% is still a lot when we running to the next raid boss... imma be 2nd now not 1st

[craggy sleet]

wym the pallies already beat us there on their lil horsies

[sinful spoke]

Be honest y werent first anyways

Pallies dks and dhs beat us

Rider dks

[slim coral]

Changes sound pretty good

[sinful spoke]

Specifically

[craggy sleet]

these horse specs smh my head

[slim coral]

I like the sound of the tier set

Really like the casino theme in it

[craggy sleet]

perfect goblin aesthetic

[sinful spoke]

Wallah can someone ban bazed

[feral ivy]

i feel like 15% might be a lot idk i want it like 8-12

[sinful spoke]

I cant believe he just typed that

[feral ivy]

idk why 15 feels like alot but it does

[glad coyote]

lol

[craggy sleet]

97% of gamblers quit RIGHT before they hit big

[slim coral]

The look of the tier set needs god

Give us slot machines as shoulders

[sinful spoke]

Bro this is the first warrior tier set in a while that looks good

[glad coyote]

link pic

[fickle bluff]

every dps has the same 2pc

[sinful spoke]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/all-season-2-tier-set-models-datamined-in-war-within-patch-11-1-355145

Too many sets to link just check

[sudden tusk]

that dk set

im gonna throw up i need it

[warped bone]

Quite a few good tier sets at least IMO

[feral ivy]

ngl this made me smile... who comes up with this stuffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlyiPXqpjY

[sinful spoke]

Craniuspresents does

I hope that helps

[slim coral]

Although I just saw cheches link

[sinful spoke]

Bro linked the ugliest one

[sinful spoke]

The red ones

[slim coral]

That’s the only one I’ve seen

[sinful spoke]

Are fucking peak

[sudden tusk]

the heroic set

is so good

[feral ivy]

i feel like we seen these shoulders before hmmm

[slim coral]

Looks better though on that pic

[sinful spoke]

Surely they give us weapons that match the armor this time right

[young swan]

its similar to antorus but just better

in like every way

[sinful spoke]

The helm is similar to that wod iroman set that transforms

[glad coyote]

the helmet looks like the sentinel face from xmen days of future past

tier set seems sus

[feral ivy]

ant won transmog of every expan/seasons for every class

this is way better than the new ones coming out

[young swan]

the helmet just kinda sucks

and so do the boots

[iron plaza]

It looks like a mix between Onslaught set(ToS) and Antorus

[young swan]

yeah its cool

[sinful spoke]

U dont like toes?

[feral ivy]

the boots need rework

100%

[young swan]

abt boots

and helmet

cant wait to spawn into TUM

[acoustic yoke]

ok that's worth fighting for

[feral ivy]

the boots make it look like im wearing uggs

[sudden tusk]

THE BIG G

[clever path]

Wtf is this holy paladin 4p

DT 10s cd inc

[feral ivy]

idk anything about any other class

[modest condor]

gilded crests from t11 bounties?

[clever path]

Just learn that some 4p seems super fun

While fury's one is a generic buff

[young swan]

im not gonna lie i do not care even a little bit about this

[sudden tusk]

lmao time to solo farm as prot for all my gildeds

[gusty sleet]

Dualwield still bad even after those buffs?

[young swan]

i will use it cause its a mythic mount and then stop

[young swan]

how do u mean

[gusty sleet]

There was buffs to dualwield in patch notes

[modest condor]

they said they wanted to adress delve gear feeling too strong compared to lower m+ gear

[acoustic yoke]

it will be a good week using the mount tbf

[gusty sleet]

For 11.01

[acoustic yoke]

then it goes back into the pits of your collectyion tab

[young swan]

thats just a buff to fury, we always dual wield

[vernal laurel]

Man, I just want warrior to have m+ utility so that I can bring something unique to the group

[young swan]

i dont think there were any buffs to smf if thats what ur talking about

[vernal laurel]

Crazy that the devs don't recognise it as a problem

[gusty sleet]

Ah

[sudden tusk]

the other thing to consider

[young swan]

idk we prob have like less than 50% of the final patch notes

[sudden tusk]

is how many warrior players do you think WANT utility

they jsut want to brain off dam

[young swan]

me personally im not giving a fuck until we get a build after the holidays

cant even test shit

this is just carrot on a stick moment

[young swan]

additionally, how many warrior players do you want to give utility to

[acoustic yoke]

fuck utility, just let me use most of my capstones

[sudden tusk]

[acoustic yoke]

why does storm of steel exist as it does

[feral ivy]

anyone know what delve lvl u have to do to get hero drop at the end? (if any lvl does)

[sinful spoke]

8

if u have maps

[young swan]

who knows lol

[acoustic yoke]

^

[clever belfry]

meee i want it, i can actually use it properly

[young swan]

reminder that massacre exists as well

[cedar kraken]

Whats the general thought on the new ring? worth running right now or no?

[clever belfry]

having to pick SD with current exe tuning is 🤯 🔫

[young swan]

not rn

[acoustic yoke]

tbh i forgot it did

[young swan]

yeah that is not fucking normal 💀

[acoustic yoke]

i'm even sadder now

[feral ivy]

isnt this useless then whats the point in doing delve 8+ for gilded if it doesnt drop good gear when u can go to m+ and just do a 8 and % to get good gear

[clever belfry]

me when slayer is forced into BS AND sd

absolutely abhorrent design

[sudden tusk]

and AM

enjoy the desync

[warped bone]

Even more kek if it drops same amount as other crests do ( 2)

btw. Read this again. Does the 4 set stack?

[sudden tusk]

its gonna be a collosus arms tier

mark my words

[warped bone]

As in if i get 2-3 procs will i have 2-3 of 4 set?

[clever belfry]

think only fury change im in any way positive / cautiously optimistic about is RA

[young swan]

yeah RA is cool

[acoustic yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-gif-25945486

[clever belfry]

others are just all L imo

[young swan]

RA + new titans torment is cool too

[sudden tusk]

RA plus Titens Torment in Execute with 2 points in VC

is gonna be insane dam

[young swan]

the less that torments do, the better

[clever belfry]

i liked RA concept in early SL
it just always sucked balls

[acoustic yoke]

if odyn's can fuck again i'm all for it

[sudden tusk]

cant wait to play AM + Uproar for bleed damage

[young swan]

are u excited for s3 slands reck uptime casino machine

[clever belfry]

i think having RA buttons compete with reck even more is so anti synergstic

[clever belfry]

Didn't play

[young swan]

oh yeah

neither did i but i watched earth play it

[clever belfry]

but the tier sets are so bad id prefer to not speak of them

[fickle cedar]

i mean at least all sets are gambling

[hidden kite]

Trash

[clever belfry]

They need some big changes or i might legit quit

[sinful spoke]

anda is over party

[acoustic yoke]

unholy set is defo the winner

[clever belfry]

Bro i play gacha
and this is not gamba i want to do

[acoustic yoke]

i don't hate the 2p ideas

just the 4p execution

[hidden kite]

Post the set toby

[clever belfry]

this is gamba thats beneath ne

[sinful spoke]

which one

[clever belfry]

zzz and yuanshen

[fickle cedar]

I think rampage should remove 1 stack not the entire thing

[sinful spoke]

coomer