fury

[paper meteor]

nah ill do it until something breaks

[hardy bluff]

same

[paper meteor]

im half joking, because sometimes i do update on time. But how tf am i gonna be aware of new drivers

😭

sometimes it takes me weeks to even notice it

[oblique trail]

The nvidia app should give you a windows notification if there's a new driver

At least I got one today

[coarse nest]

Mine too yeah

[paper meteor]

i dont get it as a popup, but when i open the small app window and i hover it i see theres an update

[coarse nest]

Always pops up after a few seconds of turning on pc and windows login

[paper meteor]

but i will NOT remember to do that

[summer quail]

i look for updates when there's an upcoming game i look forward to.

[paper meteor]

x)

its in here, but idk if i get the popup

if i do, i might just not notice

[modest condor]

i only found out i had to update my driver because i installed a new game and it told me my driver was out of date

[oblique trail]

You still get the popup if it's there, as I have it the same way

[paper meteor]

i might just not notice

[oblique trail]

That's just a small window to make your taskbar neater

[paper meteor]

or subconciously just block it

crazy

[paper meteor]

i know what it is

https://tenor.com/view/starege-cat-gif-4107532883548481782

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-bite-orange-cat-orange-cat-attack-gif-10142361798712867466

[paper meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/aot-eren-attack-on-titan-the-ocean-the-other-side-gif-25313087

海だ

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/eren-snk-aot-anime-gif-5108421

[covert blaze]

weebs

[coarse nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956065034700726334/1272362174739906672/ezgif-6-9bd2089f65.gif

[inner shadow]

when do you send your cds on bloodjhound horror?

[oblique trail]

If you go first you send when you get sent downstairs, if you go second you just use on pull instantly

[coarse nest]

On pull since I go down 2nd

They’re slightly delayed for 2nd down unfortunately

[weary sail]

634 ilvl, 2900 io, +12-13. Still cant get into pug weekly 10s. I dont know how ppl pug M+ this season

[coarse nest]

It’s swampass tier pug season for sure

Don’t worry it’s like that for everyone pugging unless you’re fotm spec

[weary sail]

If i didnt play with my friends n guild idk if i woulda keep playing cuz pugging sounds horrible

20-30 mins applying and rejecting by groups

[inner shadow]

how much time does it take before the first cone starts?

[oblique trail]

10 ish seconds?

[hardy bluff]

spec prot

[oblique trail]

Something like that

[sour frigate]

Play blue class

[oblique trail]

nvm 20 seconds

[inner shadow]

so you dont even send odyns fury or anything

[weary sail]

I did

[oblique trail]

Correct

[inner shadow]

charge and rampage/ cb kek

[oblique trail]

You just send everything when you go down

[weary sail]

But i wanted to play Fury

[inner shadow]

sounds so sad sahdhsad

[sour frigate]

Blue class has fury spec too

[covert blaze]

bbh is a shit boss

[coarse nest]

Real^

[oblique trail]

I'm perma second group

So I will never be able to parse it

[inner shadow]

how come perma second

[weary sail]

Blue is mage?

[inner shadow]

fire

[oblique trail]

Because we have designated groups who go down first

[inner shadow]

oh i thought was random based who joined first kek

they do swap people to have equal players / dps heal n tank

[oblique trail]

I have no idea how everyone else really does it

[covert blaze]

what

[coarse nest]

I haven’t tried asking to swap groups tbh but we started perma extend until CE this week

[oblique trail]

We just have designated people go down in the first

Then the other half go down second

[coarse nest]

Owell I’m happy with my average for third tier mythic raiding

[inner shadow]

tbh idc about logs

[weary sail]

7/8 so far?

[inner shadow]

i just wanna get my ce n f off

[coarse nest]

We are 6/8 with court prog in p2

[inner shadow]

im going with the 69th guild to have gotten CE lmao

[weary sail]

You got it

[coarse nest]

💪

Going strong so far we’re a bit behind to expect multi kills but should get the CE

If we got another 3 months of this raid we surely kill atleast once

[inner shadow]

oh absolutely

• thje nerfs on that boss will happen too

[coarse nest]

We recleared first 6 Thanksgiving week fairly comfortably so it seems like we’re sitting pretty comfy

[warm crag]

i dont think the bosses will get nerfed again

[summer quail]

would not surprise me if they remove 1 dispell from silken court, but think that is gonna be it

[inner shadow]

by end of raid time i expect it

to give those last guilds a helpful push towards the kill

[coarse nest]

I don’t for see more nerfs either only because we have the stacking raid buff

[warm crag]

there is nothing left to nerf

[paper meteor]

if youre not a prot pala, enhance shaman, frost dk, resto sham or disc priest no one wants you

[inner shadow]

iirc they nerfed endboss by like 5-10% of its damage seasons ago

dont remember exactly which but

[rigid stirrup]

Only thing that might get nerfed is silken even then idk what you would actually nerf since it's just a ff14 style fight

[inner shadow]

as i said, wouldn't be surprised

true

[rigid stirrup]

You cant buff peoples brains since it's just a literal dance

[summer quail]

that's the problem, ff14 fight in WoW. you would remove 1 of the dispells

[paper meteor]

brann really wants his stuff huh

crazy

he just gave it to me again, wonder how high this bug will go

[coarse nest]

Damn!!

Normal gear cache?

[rigid stirrup]

I don't see the issue with having a ff14 style fight. I actually prefer that type of prog. Learning the dance and slowly seeing the group get it down is hella exciting to me

[paper meteor]

deleted that since it was epileptic indusing

[summer quail]

ngl if you prefer that type of fight i think you're playing the wrong game

[coarse nest]

I personally find court pretty cool

[rigid stirrup]

I think you can enjoy a type of fight amd still enjoy wow raiding as a whole 🤷‍♂️

[coarse nest]

But I don’t think ff style fights should become the new norm

[summer quail]

court is probably my least favorite boss fight of all time, can't stand this shit

[rigid stirrup]

No one said it should become the norm. But I would like to see at least one boss be that way per tier

[past pivot]

You missed Sylvannas then

[rigid stirrup]

Cause once you get it down the first time it's easy af after

[summer quail]

I did indeed miss sylvanas, but think i would have liked it more than this

[clever path]

ovinaxx killed our guild - reckoin that boss will get more nerfs? Or not really that much of a brick wall?

[oblique trail]

I don't think Brood warrants much more of a nerf

[summer quail]

as long as it's not one of the last 2 bosses that's fine. I do not like dance bosses that take a long time to prog

[coarse nest]

It’s honestly not that hard anymore

No disrespect intended

But it’s felt fairly good on our re kills

[oblique trail]

Arguably at this point it's genuinely just a case of are you able to move to eggs and that's it

[clever path]

I think what put a LOAD of ppl off was the initial setup

and every time we tried to prog - certain wa's etc were not working or ppl had out of date stuff etc

• a roster wasn't tight

[rigid stirrup]

That's kinda on your raid team then. The only people that have an actual hard job are the web line people

[clever path]

so new ppl meant re-explaining every week

[oblique trail]

Some of these things aren't the fault of the fight

[clever path]

I think mostly though - the first four are SO easy.

[summer quail]

ofcourse it's on my raid team, but if you look at average amount of pulls for court it's still a decent amount

[rigid stirrup]

Brood is an annoying WA boss that really punishes you having weak players

[coarse nest]

The biggest thing is having someone who marks the correct eggs after that the WA tells you what egg to break and another WA tells you what worm to kick and when

[clever path]

A lot of our raiders were easil carried on the first four bosses. All of a sudden Ovinaxx with the WA setup etc....interrupt order etc...eughh

[coarse nest]

It’s pretty chill now

[jovial coral]

erm excuse me my guild still wiped on broodtwister up until last week so fully warranted actually

[clever path]

I think if you're part of a guild that perservered say a month ago, I can see how that boss is chill now

[rigid stirrup]

The issue was the jump in skill needed after the first 4

[coarse nest]

That’s fair yeah all guilds playing at different levels

[clever path]

i mean Rash still wiped us

even after we killed it

[oblique trail]

I think there are other issues with your guild broski than just the boss

From what you've explained

[clever path]

First four are very puggable atleast

[rigid stirrup]

I personally don't see an issue with it and actually enjoy the skill jump but ik for late CE guilds it causes a lot of distress

[clever path]

I think its timing as well - xmas hols coming up

anyway - raiding mythic in our guild has ceased, I'm a bit sad

[oblique trail]

My issue with Brood primarily is that 1 missed egg is almost always a wipe for guilds who aren't ready to handle the damage from it

[coarse nest]

Keep going! Find a new guild

[jovial coral]

Literally not a single issue with my guild :cluegi:

[clever path]

Nah, I like my current guild

[oblique trail]

Geared/good guilds can actually outplay a missed egg, so it's not an issue for them really

[oblique trail]

[rigid stirrup]

A disturbing amount of people outside the top 300 or so don't look over raid plans or do their studying needed for these bosses and it holds them back

[clever path]

• i'm around ilevel 635 - I'm plnety strong to start season 2

[rigid stirrup]

While blaming the bosses instead of themselves for not doing prep

[clever path]

• new ring - its all good.

[coarse nest]

This!

[sour frigate]

Shaman

[coarse nest]

This is my first tier raiding with leadership who makes us raid plans

Man what a game changer

You know exactly what to do when, position laid out on the map etc

It’s a different world

[clever path]

For us - we raid in evening and almost ALL ppl work in our guild

[rigid stirrup]

My guild is lucky to have a HoF person help us with raid plans and all that stuff but we have some people still not looking over the stuff

[clever path]

Brains frazzled man

[coarse nest]

This doesn’t matter

My guild is primarily “dad gamers”

[clever path]

In all honesty though - there is around 5-6 who shouldn't really be mythic raiding

[rigid stirrup]

My guilds gotten ce every dragonflight tier and we all work

Its up to your leadership to have those hard talks with under performers and recruiting people who can carry their own weight

[clever path]

I green-purple parse on my DK - which I think is fine. Gave my warr spot to another decent warr, cos we needed a DK tank for Ovi. But we have a lot of ppl who rarely learn from mistakes.

[inner shadow]

rasha'nan cds usage hurts my brain

[clever path]

I think the first four bosses were balanced perfectly for our kind of guild tbh

[coarse nest]

Mythic raiding is like a job, if you suck at your job you get replaced it’s that simple really

[clever path]

You could mess up, but still kill esp with the two-weekly buffs inc

[inner shadow]

hurts my small zug zug pop everything brain kek

[near wing]

How does the vault actually work? If I just run AK, and I do 8 runs of 10+ - will all my vault rewards for the dungeon row just be for loot from AK?

[inner shadow]

nope

it will be of any m+

[dire badge]

All dungeons are unlocked

[inner shadow]

can you imagine?

[near wing]

Hahaha

[inner shadow]

you get ONLY that dungeon you did

[coarse nest]

And this is ok! You’re basically in a stepping stone guild.

[dire badge]

raid slots are locked by what bosses you’ve killed in the past

[inner shadow]

people woulda done only ara-kara whole first season

[coarse nest]

It’s how everyone starts out mythic raiding

Well most

Unless you “know people”

[near wing]

But that’s how it works for raid right? Like if I only kill first two bosses, that vault slot can only be for loot from those bosses

[inner shadow]

so say you are 8/8hc

if you kill 2 bosses

[dire badge]

@near wing yes

[inner shadow]

you get loot from all 8

[near wing]

Ohhhhhhh

[inner shadow]

it's based on past bosses killed

[clever path]

@coarse nest I'm gonna see how season 2 plays out. I'm only sad that my gear grind has become useless. You kind of progress your character for the next step, am I right?

[inner shadow]

i had to go even more simplified explanation soz xd

[near wing]

That’s so interesting. So I could get boosted once, and then it unlocks

[inner shadow]

well yeah- but why boosted

[clever path]

But you build bonds with the ppl u play with too. Some ppl I'd like to continue playing with in season 2

[inner shadow]

it depends tbh

[near wing]

Not saying I would - just making a statement

[inner shadow]

on the guild ofc

[inner shadow]

yeah

[coarse nest]

Yeah pretty much, use your current progress to try and jump up the ladder!

[dire badge]

You could kill only last two every week and only those bosses loots will be in pool as long as you don’t kill first 6

or whatever combo of 2 you wanted

[inner shadow]

so if u want for exp ovi'nax ring, and kyveza trinket, kill those two, and thats it

[near wing]

Also, finding a guild is tough. But I’ve also been lazy about it. Very easy to find a casual AOTC guild, but hard to find a guild that is trying to make meaningful prog on mythic

[weary sail]

Its not this bad i dont think

[rigid stirrup]

Honestly only stick around if your guild knows what to change for next tier and gets some good players. Raiding with the gang is fun when you meet the end goal together and you improve as a team

[weary sail]

I still get into keys but it just take forever to queue as fury

[inner shadow]

it really isn't, just type in LFG chat or trade chat
any guilds recruiting fury war for mythic

[sour frigate]

Yeah often see 4/8 guilds with 4 rts a week

[rigid stirrup]

If you're in a race to world last situation and you make it but leadership doesn't wanna make changes I'd just start trialing for other guilds

[sour frigate]

[dire badge]

just check #promotion plenty of guilds in there consistently

[inner shadow]

there are many guilds recruiting cuz a lot are stopping to play cuz of holidays

[coarse nest]

@clever path My own story getting into mythic raiding is I used all 99 heroic Prot logs to apply and the guild was like alright this guy atleast pushes his buttons, they seen that I also played arms and they asked me to play arms on a reclear night. I guess I proved myself and the rest is history. Got CE every tier since

Just keep going man don’t stop raiding if you enjoy it!

[near wing]

I have pugged this entire season, and I’m finding it actually more difficult to pug now which is a bit odd. Like there are trash pugs that will wipe on the first boss a bunch, I can get into those. But any pug that is screening seems to always decline

[inner shadow]

are u 8 /8hc?

whats your ilvl

[near wing]

Yea, 635

[inner shadow]

that's odd

[coarse nest]

If you’re not already 4/8M you will have a very hard time getting into 4/8M pugs

At this point in the season

[inner shadow]

just pug your own group atp

[near wing]

8/8h, 2/8m 2759 io, 635 ilvl

[inner shadow]

ye jsut pug ur own

[near wing]

That is what I’m experiencing

[inner shadow]

you'd be surprised how easy it is to form a pug group and how quick people join

leave a nice note that is also big +

[near wing]

Still love the game. This is my first season, so first time experience the end of a season

[coarse nest]

Just be the guy who is 2/8M and seceretly only invites 4/8M pugs

It’s pugging man do what you gotta do everybody else does

[near wing]

🙂

[coarse nest]

[inner shadow]

if you don't care, lie in the note, say you're on an alt and are main 6/8m or some shit

lmfao

[coarse nest]

Lmao

Bruh

[inner shadow]

it works 🤷‍♂️

[ancient quiver]

Lie on resume they lie on the posting anyway

[inner shadow]

i remember seeing " main 8/8M got perma banned new account run"

literally like

[coarse nest]

Yeah I believe that

[inner shadow]

oh you're on your testing period? ask a shit ton of questions

[coarse nest]

[inner shadow]

people will be like, oh he is really interested and devoted

na man i got no fucking clue what i'm doing, and probably neither do you

[rigid stirrup]

I joined my current guild s1 of dragonflight with no heroic raid experiance or m+ and quickly learned how everything worked. My guild gave me a trial and since then have been with them for every ce kill. As long as you prove you can press your buttons and not die to dumb shit you can get into a ce guild

[inner shadow]

my guild cancelled tonite and called christmas break

GG

[coarse nest]

[rigid stirrup]

That's wild

[weary sail]

GG

[coarse nest]

Bros got two weeks left

[weary sail]

no CE for u

[coarse nest]

Already GGd

Crazy

[rigid stirrup]

Like there isn't a two week gap min between now and holidays

[inner shadow]

yup

and apparently it's already christmas for them

so GGGGGGGGG

[coarse nest]

In what country is that

Lmao

Maybe they’re Jewish? Idk how Hanukkah works

[inner shadow]

UK guild i thjink

[coarse nest]

Well either way rip

[inner shadow]

absolutely

imma go and make a 4/8m pug now

[young swan]

still have like 2 months after christmas wdym

[inner shadow]

with the fact they took a break now

its GG

[paper meteor]

obviously it was a hyperbole

[tender star]

Looking at critcake’s silken court log, does mountain thane not execute at all?

[modest condor]

no

[coarse nest]

Follow the prio

Fury doesn’t mash execute

[tender star]

yeah I know that just surprised to see 0

[modest condor]

i think the only thing lower prio on cleave/aoe is bloodthirst if burst of power is up

[tender star]

Thanks!

[inner shadow]

in like 10 days of me playing, i never touched execujte on thane

not once

[modest condor]

i usually get like 0-2 over the course of a whole dungeon

[inner shadow]

i dont even

[coarse nest]

I believe this is current according to changelog

So basically you won’t execute much

[modest condor]

that doesnt look like an aoe prio

[tender star]

Got it. Thunderclap will go up in cleave to keep the buff up if needed presumably?

[modest condor]

yes

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah mb he said silken court

[modest condor]

also that's a singletarget prio list, on aoe bloodthirst has higher prio than raging blow

[tender star]

Thanks. Another question.. am I hurting myself by macroing things together that share same cd? Like Reck/avatar/trinket (I’m using mark)

[tender star]

I do that on other fights as well and I’m wondering if I’m missing buffs, like macroing spear with stuff on kyveza

[modest condor]

depends on the build you're using

[tender star]

Or the OF from avatar

[modest condor]

if you're playing titanic rage then you can macro a lot of stuff together

if not then you need to be a bit more careful because of the opener

[warm crag]

not reading allat

tl;dr

[coarse nest]

Hmm he has picture too sec

Nvm no picture

[covert blaze]

hello red spongie

[tender star]

👍 ty

[warm crag]

hello zhai (anime pfp)

[dire badge]

is the color spongie bit going to just be blue or will there be more actors?

[solemn plover]

I see how it is

[humble plover]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-gasp-what-cat-shock-gif-5991920615405934389

[coarse nest]

A shiny Spongie has appeared‼️

[solemn plover]

Actors? We are real people.

[dire badge]

[coarse nest]

[inner shadow]

they greed on 1st boss, they didnt do mech

and we wiped

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/984566516815122482/1252768575324946503/togif-16.gif

[coarse nest]

Behind

[rotund ginkgo]

told guild i cant do raid yesterday cuz i had a massive headache

30min later new warr trial

MONKAS?

[coarse nest]

So joever

[humble plover]

bench pov?

[rotund ginkgo]

not the ansurek bench

[humble plover]

im excited for maid to take my his spot back from me

[dire badge]

maids gonna keep himself safe thanks

although I need u to sneak me in for heroic clears I need loot giga bad

[rotund ginkgo]

how i be

633.75

[dire badge]

brother I’m like 581

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/bubu-dancing-dance-happy-dance-bubu-cat-gif-9406698208260770694

[humble plover]

yeah just take my spot i dont need gear anymore

im stacked

[dire badge]

pogchampions

[coarse nest]

Bro ain’t lying

639 practically full bis

[dire badge]

yeah he’s spooned he took my spot I used to get that

:wah:

[oblique trail]

I need more gear

(wrists)

[humble plover]

im not spooned just really lucky this tier tbh

[dire badge]

🥄

[whole yacht]

i need a cloak so bad

[humble plover]

maybe a lil spooned but for sure theyd spoon joe over me

[coarse nest]

Think it’s a 636 cloak day today

[dire badge]

nah Joe gets owned

[humble plover]

rip

poor guy

[dire badge]

real

[covert blaze]

I lost the roll on wrists last week

[modest hollow]

https://raider.io/characters/eu/grim-batol/Rìor

do i need to change talents for mythic+ ?

[paper meteor]

makes me sad as its the most satisfying button to press

ive mostly been an arms guy, but i dont like how arms is rn

[covert blaze]

I'm in the same situation but the opposite

[paper meteor]

interesting

:)

you know what also makes me a bit sad, single minded fury will never be viable compared to titans grip

[covert blaze]

why do you care about that

[paper meteor]

dual wield thunder fury

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail hoohoo :3

[covert blaze]

genuine question

[open prairie]

goes 1h

picks the most obnoxiously massive 1h

[paper meteor]

for one, why have it in the game if theyre never gonna make it viable, and two dual wield thunderfury blessed blade of the windseeker

[open prairie]

yes dual wield a 1 pixel weapon

[paper meteor]

you let me dual wield my 2004 pixels

😠

as a ret paladin, im forced to look at 2004 pixels every time i use pony

[open prairie]

can always play frost dk for that

[paper meteor]

but frost dk isnt a warrior

[open prairie]

idk my pally’s ram seems more than 2004 pixels

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry meow :3

[paper meteor]

damn

well im a human

innit fam

[open prairie]

dwarf lowkey just better than all the other pally races

idk

[covert blaze]

just use the legion glyph?

[paper meteor]

theres a glyph?

:o

[paper meteor]

except their stupid ass spinny animation

[covert blaze]

you can make divine steed be your class mount

[paper meteor]

ah yes i know that

[covert blaze]

and there's like 4 colors

[paper meteor]

but that horse got the stupid wobble bullshit

2004 steed is smooth sailing

[open prairie]

do dks get the mawsworn horses

if playing rider

[covert blaze]

ngl you seem impossible to please

[paper meteor]

dk just gets a better horse

last longer, movement immune, cant be slowed below 70%

😭

[paper meteor]

how

[open prairie]

Well as unholy

pretty sure rider is int as frost

[paper meteor]

yeah it isnt rn

deathbringer frost only way to go i guess

but for unholy, that horse is just better in every way 😭

palas get it for 4 seconds +2 if templar

and we got talents to reduce the duration :)

xd

[open prairie]

I mean

most of ret’s abilities dont require melee range

[paper meteor]

True

20 yards pseudo range innit

[covert blaze]

ret is a ranged spec

[haughty cloud]

What’s the big rotational difference that causes guides to say Thane is more difficult? Just reacting to thunder blast procs?

[paper meteor]

Except for crusader strike

[open prairie]

I mean….

slayer is basically passive

[paper meteor]

nah bro gotta press execute

[covert blaze]

swing timer is so slow that it doesn't really punish downtime

[open prairie]

yeah you get sd as a talent

and free passive damage

[paper meteor]

we got 40% faster swings through talent

[open prairie]

thats slayer in a nutshell

[paper meteor]

and every other crus gives holy power

important to get it off!

⚔️

[covert blaze]

it's still too slow you don't really get punished

for brief downtime

[paper meteor]

well all melees get some downtime

[covert blaze]

I play 3 paladins I know what you're talking about dw

[haughty cloud]

But what makes Thane so different in execution difficulty? Haven’t tried it yet, level 72

[paper meteor]

i wasnt thinking you were blind to it :)

[open prairie]

nothing really

[slender delta]

is it smart to craft 2x 636 weapons?

[open prairie]

fury isnt exactly a complex spec….

[paper meteor]

got garlic bread brb

[slender delta]

or use 1x 636 and 1x 626

[open prairie]

depends if you have other slots to upgrade

[hardy bluff]

probably not

[whole yacht]

just get weapon off ulgrax 😄

[open prairie]

offhand is pretty minor if you have other spots not mythic level

like head chest and legs

Honestly ulgrax nowadays you should be able to pug with 0 issues

[haughty cloud]

Just looking at the rotation guides. Seems ravager and thunder blast are the only differences and Thane doesn’t have execute procs to hit plus a longer cooldown on Ravager vs BS. Almost seems like thane should be easier?

[inner shadow]

upgrading a gear piece from 626 to 639 is around 8 k dps increase
from 626 weapon to 636 is 14k, 20k if 639
do the maths

[open prairie]

wdym slayer you just press execute when it lights up

thats the only change

[paper meteor]

quik mafs

[open prairie]

crafting mh would make your offhand be free of crests to 636

[inner shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/big-shaq-mans-not-hot-michael-dapaah-gif-10323653

[haughty cloud]

Right, and this is replaced with Thunderblast proc watching

[open prairie]

so its still good to make one

[inner shadow]

THAT TOO

[paper meteor]

is this a general rule for most classes btw?

with some variance ofc

[inner shadow]

should be

[paper meteor]

nice

[open prairie]

but i think the convo was about crafting an offhand 636

which generally isnt advised

[inner shadow]

well

if his off hand is 626

thats still 14k dps increase

[paper meteor]

if played well

[inner shadow]

just make sure it's not an intellect

[open prairie]

I mean neither is hard

[paper meteor]

my cousin whos 618 fury averages 600k dps in raid

every boss

[open prairie]

thane is worse on st

though

also you have weaker burst aoe in general

[covert blaze]

me when I don't know what I'm talking about

[open prairie]

pop transmitter with cds

[inner shadow]

raidbots gives you the numbers

[open prairie]

go spin

climb to #1 on dps

on add spawns

[inner shadow]

i literally got the nujmbers from raidbots

and yall shittalking

[covert blaze]

yeah every character is the same

[paper meteor]

im jjust memeing

[covert blaze]

you're right zen

[inner shadow]

no not u

zhai

being a c*nt like usual

[inner shadow]

zhai a question

stop means stop yeah ?

[covert blaze]

you just type incorrect stuff for fun idk

[inner shadow]

stop fucking talking to me.

[covert blaze]

pretty strange

[paper meteor]

@covert blaze crazy background photo on your disc 💀

[inner shadow]

doesnt ufckin mean 100% IT IS

[covert blaze]

0.09% chance according to silm

[paper meteor]

thats honestly fucked up xd

[open prairie]

somehow doubt 626 to 636 offhand is more sim gain than 626 to 636 of a major stat slot like helm chest legs

[haughty cloud]

So Thane only in M+ and key level 10 and above?

[inner shadow]

what now?

oh frosty kek

[open prairie]

I mean i thane in m+

but i play prot

so…..

[paper meteor]

do you have the hidden artifact appearanace?

appearance

crazy

cant spell

[open prairie]

I use the flail

from magetower

[paper meteor]

which one

ah

[open prairie]

why is it counted as a sword

in collections

[paper meteor]

wtf

it is?

[open prairie]

yeah

[paper meteor]

thought they would be maces

ah

well

i get it

[open prairie]

I guess because the base skin is one

[paper meteor]

well nvm i dont

its inconsistent

because some appearances get different categories

but i guess that didnt

[open prairie]

i think the fury hidden is counted as a sword?

[summer quail]

coz the artifact weapon is a sword and the flail is just part of the artifact weapon

[open prairie]

dont remember anymore

[paper meteor]

iirc some artifacts also change categories

but not sure

[covert blaze]

pretty sure mutou is right

[paper meteor]

does the arms hidden change into 2h axe?

[summer quail]

like for example, the arms hidden artifact is very clearly an axe. but it is in sword catagory

[paper meteor]

ah

[open prairie]

fury hidden is also an axe

[covert blaze]

no cause the artifact is a sword

[paper meteor]

then i thought wrong

swear ive seen it in a different category

[open prairie]

i still dont have the base skin

[paper meteor]

mightve been cooked

[open prairie]

for fury hidden

i just used the cross spec bug

[summer quail]

point still stands tho, whatever the appearance may be it will count as the original artifact weapon catagory wise

[open prairie]

to get the other ones

[paper meteor]

the warrior campaign fury artifact is pretty cool

[open prairie]

balance of power one is nice

[paper meteor]

i tried doing it on my paladin, and the rep grind made me stop

lol

[open prairie]

fury magetower just annoys me with how the weps sheath kind of sideways

[haughty cloud]

Thane description seems misleading then. “chaotic playstyle, with several procs competing for attention at the same time” from Wowhead

[open prairie]

thankfully they made balance of power unlock account wide

[covert blaze]

burst of power

[open prairie]

you guys read the wowhead description?

i just check what does higher number

[covert blaze]

you guys read?

[open prairie]

no we’re warrior players

tf you expect

[summer quail]

I start to read, get distracted then forget what i read.

[paper meteor]

yeah but doing it once is cancer inducing

the amount of rep i would have to grind idk

but then again

its a one time thing

the scale hasnt been made even yet

[open prairie]

i did it in legion

while nh was current

[paper meteor]

looking at it rn

prot warrior appearances are so insanely good

arguably the best looking shields in the game

and they sheathe in a cool way

[inner shadow]

starting good ey

[paper meteor]

same

[inner shadow]

i fucked up cds at the end, shoulda saved em

for adds pull

[haughty cloud]

Already pressing Bloodthirst pretty regularly though. Not sure what would be “chaotic” about it? Wouldn’t it just be slamming two Bloodthirst on proc and then continuing with the rotation? Just reading a bit on my work lunch break

[open prairie]

I mean chaotic is subjective

[paper meteor]

chaotic just means without order innit fam

[lament lagoon]

Court jut buggd after we killed it

[open prairie]

So enhance

[lament lagoon]

now we gotta kill it aagain lol

[paper meteor]

wtf

[oblique trail]

Lucky you

[covert blaze]

pretty sure you want to spend burst of power on bb

[coarse nest]

You don’t even do that, you just spend them on BB after each ramp

[summer quail]

in what way?

[oblique trail]

You can pretty naturally spend BoP on BB unless you have literally no rage when it procs

[haughty cloud]

Odd

[lament lagoon]

boss died and nothing happened, no loot ,Queen room didnt open, boss just laid thre dead

everyone had to hearth/reset

nd now its alive again

[open prairie]

honestly if you’re doing 10s I would just play slayer.

[covert blaze]

[paper meteor]

Just a quick question for the fury boys. If you have 3 whirlwind stacks but you get a procc of the thunder clap. Is it more dmg to use the proc or to keep raging blowing

[open prairie]

Stuff melts at that level

[summer quail]

yikes, that's a quit for the rest of the tier moment

[coarse nest]

Thane opener is “harder” with OF also talented imo

[storm rune]

had that with princess, except after she died everyone was still in combat, lost all our loot for that week

[coarse nest]

Otherwise they’re basically the same difficulty

[covert blaze]

tb is high prio

[paper meteor]

alright

thanks

then ive been doing it correctly

[inner shadow]

also no ulgrax weapon

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[open prairie]

i got rash wep on dh first kill

[coarse nest]

Craft week

[inner shadow]

na i got polearm 623

giga clutch KEKW

[open prairie]

?

[open prairie]

why not make it 626

oh

[paper meteor]

polearm innit

[coarse nest]

My 602 rat paladin got myth track weapon out of M+ vault

[paper meteor]

rat

🐀

[inner shadow]

polearm innit

[open prairie]

I have crafted and

that funny no str 2h from delves

[inner shadow]

evoker was late af

[paper meteor]

my 🐀 paladin only got 2 myth track pieces

[inner shadow]

and he put down

A HEART STEW

people actually got gebaited

and had 100 stat buff

[paper meteor]

i dont get it

[open prairie]

Some ret was malding because i swapblasted him off a ledge twice

while he had non hearty food

[inner shadow]

hearty stew is df food

kek

[paper meteor]

oo

lmfao

[inner shadow]

bro put that for apologizing

[paper meteor]

"sorry for late, here eet fud"

[open prairie]

I mean if you have gold

any char can have 3 myth pieces

[paper meteor]

i dont have gold

what do i do

[inner shadow]

i was the first

to

kek

then i am last

im 633 now

[paper meteor]

you were the first to kek?

:noway:

[inner shadow]

to have 3 mythic

[paper meteor]

im saving my gilded for wrist craft

😭

im only 622

on my ret

[open prairie]

staring at gilded cap like

[paper meteor]

started a bit late doing keys and raid

didnt have a guild like now

[eternal sundial]

do not make a wrist 636

make it 619

[paper meteor]

🤨

why

ive simmed it

its not a dps increase

[eternal sundial]

the wrists are the worst slot to craft up

90 myth crests can be a LOT more dps if you do other slots

[coarse nest]

I wouldn’t craft 636 wrist until everything besides jewelry is 639

[paper meteor]

im not crafting on my fury

[open prairie]

pretty sure wrist is weakest slot

[eternal sundial]

cuz embells dont scale with ilvl so the low ilvl doesnt punish u anyways

[south kayak]

[open prairie]

besides maybe cloak

[eternal sundial]

cloak/wrist ye

[coarse nest]

Wrist/cloak equal

[open prairie]

i need myth boots and ring to have full 639

on all slots

[paper meteor]

ive simmed the wrists, and its not a dps increase if i craft 619 wrists on my ret paladin

🧍‍♂️

[coarse nest]

Hmm

[eternal sundial]

spend money

buy em

[eternal sundial]

did u sim with embell

[open prairie]

not plate

xd

[eternal sundial]

L bozo

yellow stank

[coarse nest]

[paper meteor]

well youre asking a great question sub expires in 1 month 🥰🥰

[open prairie]

I aint spending 200k gold on a 700 dps ring

unhinged behavior

[covert blaze]

when league philbert

[coarse nest]

700dps could make you kill boss

[eternal sundial]

log in

[coarse nest]

[south kayak]

it could not

[open prairie]

i missed sniping a socket leather belt on myth at 110k gold

[coarse nest]

There it is

[open prairie]

[lament otter]

oof

[paper meteor]

our guild did mythic raid for the first time and we wiped on ulgrax 7 times

lmao

didnt even kill

6th wipe was 0.6%

[lament otter]

you gave up after 7 pulls?

[covert blaze]

gotta start somewhere

[paper meteor]

didnt give up, no time left for the day

people got work n shit

[lament otter]

Oh

fair

[paper meteor]

also most of the guys in the guild got kids

lmao

[coarse nest]

During sark prog we had a hunter with blue boots equipped

“Didn’t have time to farm M+”

[lament otter]

lol

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[paper meteor]

we usually only raid for 2 hours a day

perhaps 3

[lament otter]

Fair ig

[open prairie]

blue trinket

[paper meteor]

wednesday, sometimes friday, and sundays

[eternal sundial]

has has risen

[open prairie]

the trinket in question was drogbar rocks

[paper meteor]

anyways

[lament otter]

drogbar rocks fucking slapped tho

[lament lagoon]

So killed court again, no loot lol.....

[coarse nest]

Where’s turlas tongue gif

When you need it

[paper meteor]

gratz

[open prairie]

thats the joke

[lament otter]

bug where the 2nd boss leaves?

[eternal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/2017x-2017x-rizz-hit-single-hit-single-sonic2017x-rizz-licking-lips-gif-11652327508459589829

[paper meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/ling-gif-2913058667106816085

[open prairie]

court doesnt drop loot anyway

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[open prairie]

except spymaster’s but fuck casters

[lament lagoon]

We killed it , boss just died, no loot, queen room didnt open, we hearth reset, boss respwned, kill it again, no loot

Queen room open now

so cooked for the week

[paper meteor]

send a ticket

[coarse nest]

That happened to my guild also

[lament lagoon]

Not even crest's lol

[coarse nest]

Boss died no loot box showed up and we couldn’t go to queen

[open prairie]

Well at least you got practice doing the boss

again

[coarse nest]

Had to do the same thing

[paper meteor]

cant get over how insanely good this appearance looks

[coarse nest]

Reset the whole instance to get to queen

[lament lagoon]

Yea we at queen now but no one got loot from Court

[coarse nest]

Yep you guys just got Lbozod for the week

[lament lagoon]

Deserved for being brown class tbh

[coarse nest]

Good point yeah

[paper meteor]

does anyone have this

is it just a daily check in the cave or what

[south kayak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/hi2srn8tUd

[paper meteor]

i tried yesterday and today and no text in the chat for it

[south kayak]

[runic sphinx]

Ive done this before lol

[south kayak]

Accurate user name

[runic sphinx]

Lol

[south kayak]

(Sorry)

[coarse nest]

https://tenor.com/view/mmhmm-mmhm-gif-8299952145522411766

[open prairie]

know whats real fun

[runic sphinx]

Also have accidentally heroic leaped onto a popper on queen and wiped the raid lol

[open prairie]

unloading full cds onto ansurek spiders

in last phase

[errant vessel]

guys I don't want to play thane for court

are you gonna force me to

[south kayak]

Yes

[oblique trail]

just play slayer m8

[errant vessel]

ok will do

[oblique trail]

The boss has no damage check as long as people just do the mechanics

[zinc wadi]

And it's me again😁
Atm I'm using transmitter and skarm, just got the broodsac to drop, all 3 are hero track, which would you recommend me to use?

[inner shadow]

my tank trollin

[paper meteor]

its over already

wipe and reset if you ask me

[oblique trail]

Transmitter + Sac

[smoky vale]

but banezi

[zinc wadi]

Thx, double on-use is fun but probably noticable worse

[smoky vale]

its too hard

[zinc wadi]

Too hard to look at a guide? Ya agree sometimes it is

[inner shadow]

we killed iut

[paper meteor]

scam

[inner shadow]

istg

the only WEIRD PULL

we all cried about

asking tank u trolling?

[oblique trail]

You're probably one of the only who thinks this

[inland vector]

when simming the droptimizer for fury, which fight style should I use to best represent potential damage upgrades in nerub?

[oblique trail]

Patchwerk 5 min 1 target

just use this for everything

raid or not

[inland vector]

ty

[zinc wadi]

Well, I'm playing a pandaren warrior and want pandaren paladins since mop, not sure if my opinion on things count. 😁

[inner shadow]

someone accidentally took me back to shadowlands

i got giga griefed

[coarse nest]

Damn did you auto attack with no gear equipped?

[inner shadow]

no i died

naked

[paper meteor]

and alone?

[coarse nest]

And afraid

Come on bro

You own a tv???

[inner shadow]

no

:((

[coarse nest]

🪦

[inner shadow]

progressing sik'ran on pug

let's go

[coarse nest]

You got it

[inner shadow]

killed it

now unto rash'anan

lord have mercy

not bad

costed me 80k

[sour frigate]

Jeez in my raid guy didnt sell me it for 150k

[inner shadow]

this was some random rogue

i got in

even though he 3/8m

[coarse nest]

Good man

👏

[iron portal]

I paid 0gold for it

[coarse nest]

All 4 of my myth tier pieces looted from vault

[coarse nest]

!!!!

As soon as that dispel gets sorted you’re in p3

I’m right behind ya!

[sour frigate]

briar feet pfp wtf

[coarse nest]

[sour frigate]

[undone flower]

it does get sorted, we are on the grab after and second dispell now

[coarse nest]

Yee 2nd dispel I meant

[mighty hull]

you guys running mountain thane on that fight?

[coarse nest]

I am ye

Feels good

[undone flower]

i play thane

cd pull, on cd second, and wait first dispel (for now)

[mighty hull]

by pull do you mean 15s in?

[undone flower]

no

[coarse nest]

No

[mighty hull]

cause I see a lot of lorrgs do that

[coarse nest]

They do 15 seconds in so it aligns better with damage amp after first dispel

But you can get some add pad in p1 and just hold until first dispel in p2

[undone flower]

i can't cd when they are together if i wait 15sec

[coarse nest]

Also that too, my guild doesn’t have the two bosses close enough by 15 seconds and my position is in the far back of the boss so I can’t even attempt to cleave

So I just go send on pull and they’re up for adds at 1:30

Then hold until first dispel at like 3:30 or w/e idr off the top of my head

[mighty hull]

that makes sense

I guess a lot of them do just that

[coarse nest]

Yep

[undone flower]

slayer players have OF ?

[queen linden]

[undone flower]

i dont like OF on silken tbh

[coarse nest]

Is this wcl?

[queen linden]

Surely this will be dead soon

[undone flower]

wcl progress of your guild

[coarse nest]

Oh yeah I always forget what it looks like I don’t use it often

[eternal sundial]

soon

inshallah

[undone flower]

that nice graph

[humble lark]

would you guys say fury got a better dps profile in keys compared to ret?

[sour frigate]

Key level?

[humble lark]

well higher keys maby 13-14 and up

[sour frigate]

Fury better

[humble lark]

been trying to decide what to play. Iplay both but i wanna decide which one to push with

i do like that fury is doing aoe damage while doing st damage.

[eternal sundial]

realistically

ret>

[covert blaze]

I mean

ret has cds every 30 seconds

it doesn't get better than that

[coarse nest]

No man ret is just insane M+ spec

[covert blaze]

perma cds high flat dmg profile

[coarse nest]

Full burst every 30 seconds
Immunity, Brez, off heal, sac, BoP, Freedom

[covert blaze]

no matter how you pull it's always good

[coarse nest]

Can’t beat it

[humble lark]

yea true

[coarse nest]

We can get higher highs but a good ret will beat a good warrior 9/10 times

Maybe even 10/10

[mighty hull]

can i get a nice in the chat

[coarse nest]

Nice

[covert blaze]

nice

[humble lark]

Nice

[inner shadow]

9% wipe

group disbanded

on rasha'nan

this shit too funny

[tardy lark]

second clip isnt insta wipe though

not that funny

[inner shadow]

i mean

tjhat shit ass af

[sour frigate]

int weapon tho

[inner shadow]

without pots

i forgot to pot

and to switch to

[feral ivy]

what did yall vote on warcraft logs?

[feral ivy]

pls tell me that punch is your WA and was really just random timing lol

[compact knot]

remove adds on ulgrax and keep silken tombs on heroic/normal and remove it on mythic

[feral ivy]

hmmm why?

[fickle bluff]

i voted to keep ulgrax the same and remove tombs on all difficulties

[compact knot]

adds on ulgrax are cringe and die too fast, on mythic you only kill one set of silken tombs so like who cares, on normal and heroic you dont just skip the tombs and kill each set

highest parses on ulgrax are either full guild runs that kill the boss in a minute, or have 1 person hitting the adds

[feral ivy]

but might as well keep them in. not hurting anything in anyway

[inner shadow]

its when my ww stacks expire

[feral ivy]

if they are having 1 person in aoe while everyone else st thats amazing

[compact knot]

you would be surprised

[feral ivy]

in what way?

[compact knot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rh8nDJMWQamNV4BK#fight=2&type=damage-done

this looks right yeah

dont worry

no problems here 👍

[feral ivy]

i dont .. they killed the boss and fucking around

its not HURTING anything or anyone. everyone can do it just chose not to

[compact knot]

your logic can be used on literally any boss in like any expansion ever

[feral ivy]

im more suprised it took them that long if everyone else was in ST

[summer quail]

remove silken tomb for mythic, keep adds for ulgrax but remove allstar and didn't vote for hc

[compact knot]

removing ulgrax from allstar is probably better though

[summer quail]

yea i don't like removing the adds from a boss like that, but it can be abused so should not be on allstar

[oblique trail]

People can do the exact same on Ansurek and pad on the tombs, just like people let certain players just do only the add damage on Ulgrax

We even have people who doesn't immune on every set, so we do more damage than those who full immune

And considering how low HP they actually are, you could easily setup tomb pad to favour padders even further, without risking wipes over it

[tardy lark]

or incentivize people to hold CDs for first cocoons

[feral ivy]

i see it as a fun little thing to fuck around with.

[young swan]

lots of peoples first tier going for parses huh

[compact knot]

lol

[summer quail]

probably is, tons of people came back this expansion

[oblique trail]

Tomb damage isn't something that's important anyway for a good parse on Ansurek

[compact knot]

^

[oblique trail]

So personally really don't care if it's included or not

But you can easily abuse it for parses

[tardy lark]

i think tomb damage should be removed from mythic since you are mostly immuning/breaking them some other way

While on hc they are an actual mechanic

"actual"

[inner shadow]

what are the chances i can manage to regroup thge same players of today, tomorrow for the kill of rasha'nan?

[feral ivy]

but why remove if its not important?

[summer quail]

if you kill it normally yeah, tbf i think that just makes me want them to remove it even more

[oblique trail]

I don't even think depending on your roster that you have to immune roots

[tardy lark]

because it makes it "good" gameplay for totemic shamans to do 150million damage to the first set

[oblique trail]

You can easily have a few people sit under boss on 2nd and 3rd roots

1st roots too maybe, idk what spec would pop those

Enha maybe

[tardy lark]

totemic is dumb as fuck if allowed 3 globals

[feral ivy]

idk whaat totemic is..

[compact knot]

this is what totemic is https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FYVjyGArmzgqLPKM#fight=47&type=damage-done&source=15&start=8684535&end=8715763

[oblique trail]

It's one of the hero talents for enhance shamans

[compact knot]

see that giant yellow leap

that is all tomb damage

[vale dove]

how do u use Bladestorm on the pull in during queen? I had it running and got pulled in still 😒

[feral ivy]

lol

[oblique trail]

If you're BSing during Wrest, you should not be pulled in

[feral ivy]

ayy if its kill tomb while everyone else can go more boss dmg im okay with it

[vale dove]

meh must of ran out just as wrest went off i guess

[oblique trail]

Likely culprit

[tardy lark]

but omn mythic, tombs are basically immuned or broken in other ways

[oblique trail]

I've not died once with BS active to wrest pull in

[compact knot]

the thing is most guilds opt to just immune the webs and hit the boss

[tardy lark]

you might have 2 or 3 on one set

[compact knot]

which in turn means more boss damage

[oblique trail]

eh

[compact knot]

while this guild just killed the webs instead

[tardy lark]

it just becomes a question of who can sit on CDs and precast them faster than the others

[oblique trail]

Me as a warrior, which could arguably solo 2 root sets, don't lose anything for holding CDs for roots

If multiple people hold CDs for roots then sure

[tardy lark]

its incentivized because it goes into parse

is my point

regardless wheter the enh does the same

[ornate gust]

if i spell reflect phase 1 root in mythic queen, do i drop shit on the ground?

[inner shadow]

where is blud going?

[oblique trail]

yes

[tardy lark]

its always better for a warrior to get OF + roar onto 10 tombs

[ornate gust]

thanks

[inner shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/onepiece-zoro-gif-20413728

[oblique trail]

I don't disagree, just a case of people being blinded by parses

Even though R1 Fury for example has like 30k damage to tombs

[tardy lark]

take away his 4 PIs and i beat him by a mile

im very angery

even with an aug

[oblique trail]

Well you're a private logger

So opinion invalid

I'm rank 5 now, only beat by PI'ers and a noob (who isn't shown because he private logs)

The non-PI target actually did twice my damage to tombs, which without bothering to look further, is why he did more than me

[inner shadow]

ayase buff?

[oblique trail]

So I will go vote to remove silken tomb damage

[inner shadow]

kek

[young swan]

@ashen socket spotted

[compact knot]

hey buddy ill let you know im the rank 1 world normal smolderon parse in prepatch

rolled

[slow haven]

for M+ do you sim patchwerk 5 boss at 3 min?

[oblique trail]

5 min 1 target patchwerk

[slow haven]

ahh ty