pulsar quest
If you are the only add damage maybe OF might pull ahead
#fury
thick fossil
summer quail
was extremely surprised they buffed reap a while back
thick fossil
Night fae Covenant leader.
smoky vale
thick fossil
https://tenor.com/view/schmoop-gif-26237806
bitter palm
was extremely surprised they buffed reap a while back
yeah they are turbo clueless perma
40% dn buff 10.2.5 arms
remember
modest condor
what is dn?
modest condor
and reap is sustain aoe for slayer, that's why they buffed it
not many other options if they want to buff slayer but not thane
inner shadow
It seems between these two openers
The first one did more overall dps?
Charge reck - rampage - thane macro( avatar-shard - ravager) - Thunder blast - Thunderous Roar - Crushing Blow - Rampage - Thunder Blast - Crushing Blow - Rampage
Vs
Charge - spamming thane macro (Reck-Shard-Ava-Thunder blast) - Roar - Rampage - Crushing Blow - Blast - Rampage - Crushing blow
bitter palm
not many other options if they want to buff slayer but not thane
i agree but especially as arms reap being so much of ur damage just feels bad
it feels like ure pressing ur core abilities so some random spin can proc and deal damage
chrome plover
It seems between these two openers
The first one did more overall dps?
Charge ...
well that's not surprising, isnt the 2nd one just wrong
south kayak
oblique trail
and reap is sustain aoe for slayer, that's why they buffed it
Would've rather they touched the RB/BT modifiers in Slayer, than Reap/Slayer's Strike
Slayer's Strike doing this much damage on ST as a completely uncontrollable proc feels awful, the same goes for Reap
thick fossil
It seems between these two openers
The first one did more overall dps?
Charge ...
Roar can be before reck/Ava. As long as you're consuming both BB and CB, you're good.
oblique trail
One moment your Reap does nothing, while the next every BT during your BS procs a Reap and you do infinite damage
I don't mind some RNG in a spec as long as it's in moderation, and you don't swing wildly from pull to pull
thick fossil
Prolly why I like Thane better.
oblique trail
Thane you might not notice it as much, because Slayer's Strike also has a CDR component to it
But look at your Lightning Strikes damage from pull to pull
inner shadow
well that's not surprising, isnt the 2nd one just wrong
It’s what Bizentein runs 🦦
mossy fox
Slayer's Strike doing this much damage on ST as a completely uncontrollable proc...
one of my queen pulls had me at 2m dps at the start of 1st intermission cause my slayer strike rng was insane
err
princess
south kayak
I got a 29th parse on HC princess because my slayer's strike was insane lmao
oblique trail
Yeah I've also had some wild Princess pulls
oblique trail
And while it's not raid, sometimes on M+ bosses I've had Slayer's Strike compete with nr.1 damage done
mossy fox
speaking of uncontrollable damage
i once oneshot a shard on skarmorak on like a 15/16 stonevault because my crushing blow and lightning strike crit a shard at 60% hp
so we died from 2 stack very fun
south kayak
inner zinc
so we died from 2 stack very fun
oblique trail
i once oneshot a shard on skarmorak on like a 15/16 stonevault because my crushi...
I also love it when you proc 3 Slayer's Strike in 1 global and do infinite damage out of nowhere
mossy fox
he sends unenraged thunderblast/roar?
titanic rage innit
vapid thicket
Coming from enhancement shaman, is thane or slayer the way to go in mythic plus?
south kayak
meanwhile biz is playing classic hardcore
south kayak
Coming from enhancement shaman, is thane or slayer the way to go in mythic plus?
Thane mostly
mossy fox
I also love it when you proc 3 Slayer's Strike in 1 global and do infinite damag...
same shit when you reach 3 stacks mfe for the first time and somehow have 2 stacks sudden death without sudden death talented
oblique trail
Coming from enhancement shaman, is thane or slayer the way to go in mythic plus?
Whichever you prefer until 10-12 range, after that Thane ideally
chrome plover
titanic rage innit
i think zen maybe not a trustworthy source 🤔
south kayak
:susge
chrome plover
meanwhile biz is playing classic hardcore
he also hasnt done fury keys in like 2 weeks
vapid thicket
I’m a boy who likes to see lightning… thane it is haha
undone flower
meanwhile biz is playing classic hardcore
Well one of the teammate is scary way missing
south kayak
what is scary way missing
oblique trail
same shit when you reach 3 stacks mfe for the first time and somehow have 2 stac...
Had 2 SD stacks for the first time ever without it talented on Court last night
Because of proccing 3x MfE right as Skeinspinner jumps away and I didn't get my SD off
undone flower
what is scary way missing
Didn’t log online overnight since 2 weeks
oblique trail
To then very quickly proccing 3x MfE on Anub
south kayak
Didn’t log online overnight since 2 weeks
wtf
mossy fox
xd
south kayak
that's scary
south kayak
undone flower
wtf
Im friend with the officer of his guild, they also have no clue what happened he just disappeared like my gold during raid nights
warm crag
Had 2 SD stacks for the first time ever without it talented on Court last night
Hehehe Hohoho
warm crag
vapid thicket
Also is arms, still way behind fury in mythic plus?
south kayak
My gold disappeared out of nowhere
after i crafted some items
what could be the case
undone flower
My gold disappeared out of nowhere
If only I could win those /roll 2 and /roll 3
south kayak
Also is arms, still way behind fury in mythic plus?
They are both equal
oblique trail
It wasn't exactly as I described it but Anub dashed away instead
Hate this fight..
mossy fox
They are both equal
i dont believe that
oblique trail
Hehehe Hohoho
Stop LAUGHING
south kayak
vapid thicket
@mossy fox you think it’s behind fury? Dmg or just survivability still?
chrome plover
They are both equal
i dont think arms is way behind but i also dont think they are equal
im enjoying arms a lot in my weekly 10s
and it kinda does wacky dps
south kayak
I guess you're right, the ST of arms is just so bad I wanna cry myself to sleep
unlike Fury's
chrome plover
yeah fury is very noticeably better on single target
undone flower
i dont think arms is *way* behind but i also dont think they are equal
In same way colossus/thane on prot? I love to play colossus but I wouldn’t play it in content where best build matter
warm crag
Stop LAUGHING
I will stop laughing when you FINALLY tell me if you fixed your sleep schedule!
inner shadow
he sends unenraged thunderblast/roar?
You do get enraged thunderblast with avatar wdym
vapid thicket
Oh wow i expected it to be the other way around haha. That arms would be better on st
south kayak
yeah fury is very noticeably better on single target
yeah it's not even close, my damage as fury is sometimes better outside of cds than arms is inside of them
oblique trail
I will stop laughing when you FINALLY tell me if you fixed your sleep schedule!
Barely! I have been extremely eepy since 4pm and wish to sleep eternally
warm crag
hehe hoho
chrome plover
In same way colossus/thane on prot? I love to play colossus but I wouldn’t play ...
idk about prot really
warm crag
a tiny hamster courier will knock on your door shortly to bring you some tea!
oblique trail
You do get enraged thunderblast with avatar wdym
What enrages you in the above lines apart from having Titanic Rage talented, which you didn't mention
chrome plover
You do get enraged thunderblast with avatar wdym
Charge - spamming thane macro (Reck-Shard-Ava-Thunder blast) - Roar - Rampage
You enrage at the rampage if not running titanic rage
inner shadow
We are running titanic eage
chrome plover
you said that bizzy does that and he doesnt run titanic rage
oblique trail
a tiny hamster courier will knock on your door shortly to bring you some tea!
Can't wait!
chrome plover
so which is it
south kayak
Fury also doesn't have this stupid shit with demolish sometimes not hitting enemies or tanks moving away at the last second which makes demolish miss
fuck that
had that happen to me yday in ara
chrome plover
those openers are 1 for titanic rage and 1 for no titanic rage
both are right then if ur in different builds
inner shadow
you said that bizzy does that and he doesnt run titanic rage
He does, when i spoke to him regarding talents and openers, it came to that, which is true both are completely different because one runs it other not, but it is to my surprise quite the big difference in dps..
eternal sundial
Zen>biz
chrome plover
looking at his recent fury keys he didnt run titanic rage in any of them
modest condor
im also disappearing for 2 weeks over xmas
wtf crit not streaming for 2 weeks???
zinc wadi
So besides clapping a few times as thane, what's the rotational difference to m+ slayer if there are any?
inner shadow
looking at his recent fury keys he didnt run titanic rage in any of them
Maybe he ran others recently differently, but i had this convo 1-2 days ago
warm crag
wtf crit not streaming for 2 weeks???
who will i ask wholly inappropriate questions to?
edgy widget
im also disappearing for 2 weeks over xmas
more like Quitcake
eternal sundial
more like Quitcake
W
chrome plover
but i mean the actual numerical difference between an extra rampage global between your reck and the rest of your cds is tiny
modest condor
who will i ask wholly inappropriate questions to?
pikc one of the other streamers on the right ->
chrome plover
a much bigger difference will just be the variation pull to pull
warm crag
pikc one of the other streamers on the right ->
what if i am live ..
eternal sundial
pikc one of the other streamers on the right ->
Ja @jevenetezz
chrome plover
so i wouldnt use anecdotal evidence to say 1 opener is better
it's pretty hard to get a reasonable sample size to make any assumptions like that
modest condor
what if i am live ..
then ask yourself the inappropriate (what a terrible word to type) questions
mossy fox
wtf crit not streaming for 2 weeks???
maybe i stream a few days while im away still
south kayak
in app pro priate
mossy fox
will see
inner shadow
so i wouldnt use anecdotal evidence to say 1 opener is better
I took an x number of keys with one set of talents and openers
Got the avg of it
Did the same w second opener got the avg and compared
I could be entirely wrong on that, but it was just interesting how i got consistently more without TR ..
edgy widget
maybe i stream a few days while im away still
time for your IRL stream era
modest condor
in a pore iate
mossy fox
time for your IRL stream era
oh no
modest condor
crit cooking stream? 👀
inner shadow
Archi could you pin my screenshot where i crafted a 636 weapon (intellect weapon 🦦
south kayak
No
inner shadow
:((
mossy fox
crit cooking stream? 👀
not a bad idea tbh
thick fossil
They are both equal
I wouldn't go that far, but Arms is just so worse to play.
south kayak
that's true
sour frigate
not a bad idea tbh
cooking cake?
inner shadow
I wouldn't go that far, but Arms is just so worse to play.
When you’re used to mashing everything that comes in front of you yeah it is very bad
What do you mean i am out of rage 🦦
thick fossil
not a bad idea tbh
Come and cook for me, I am currently without power due to first snow storm.
south kayak
When you’re used to mashing everything that comes in front of you yeah it is ver...
It's bad regardless of that
it's just badly designed
inner shadow
They’ll prob buff it next big patch
inner shadow
We keep jumping from spec to spec, patch by patch
inner shadow
Ye rework w buffs
Also what the fuck can they even rework, how can you even save that spec
oblique trail
We keep jumping from spec to spec, patch by patch
Arguably not a bad thing
south kayak
don't gotta worry about that
inner shadow
don't gotta worry about that
I think there is to worry since, they do dookeyshit things like these
inner shadow
Arms has been used cuz a- broken ash
B- tier set gear fits arms better
inner shadow
Arguably not a bad thing
My monke brain shuts down when i go arms, it gets boring
It’s not as stimulating
inner shadow
Arms you hit 1 hit it’s fuckin 5 mil wow nice, now wait 20 sec
Fury is 500 hits x4 many numbers, fast, spam press keys
Oh shit crushing blow is up, BAM
south kayak
rampage 
inner shadow
rampage is so nice w the glyph
inner shadow
Ravager casually doing a bt at 4 mil
Fire illusion on weapon
Burning when enraged glyph
You literally look like a ball of fire swinging
thick fossil
Also what the fuck can they even rework, how can you even save that spec
Scrap its current design direction. Take it back to Cata or Legion and improve on what it needs to fit into modern day retail.
Trim silly talents that should be baseline/baked into core talent nodes. Get rid of spear or at the very least make it not suck. Make defensive nodes not compete against massive throughput nodes.
Stop trying to force us into bleeds. Bleeds are OK, but shouldn't be as big as they are. Clean up our rotation, and let us have cool downs that can actually align for big payoffs.
thick fossil
I'd rather it start with Cata Arms, but that might be a little OP right now
inner shadow
That legendary, that colossus smash putting 150% more dps increase on a boss
Stacking mastery on all gems and enchants cuz ionly thing that mattered lmao
Doing that naga lady boss, that was a field day for arms
Oh and the execute ring, that added 75% damage to ur next mortal strike stacking max 2
thick fossil
I want recklessness in all its former glory, I want CS resets, not MS.
inner shadow
That's not what it did
The legion ring??
south kayak
imagine having perma 30% dps
thick fossil
Legion ring was just what became known as Sudden death talent. It was even called something like executioners ring.
thick fossil
And gloves refunded rage as well as buffed MS
south kayak
They reduced the cost of MS later on
maiden ingot
There's been iterations before, ye. Pretty sure SoO 4 Piece was also proccing Execute usable at any health range.
maiden ingot
I think WoD was literally just Sudden Death as we know it as well. The Tier Set became a Talent, then got turned into a Legendary when the Legion Rework hit. Would be my guess of the timeline.
inner shadow
Legion was literally the peak
Of both content and creativity
The raids were super fun, the classes the specs
Draught of souls 
thick fossil
Battle cry.
inner shadow
Charge reck ava rampage and T POSING dealing 50mil damage in 2 seconds lmao
maiden ingot
I miss those niche interactions with passive Class or Specc damage increases sometimes.
south kayak
Charge reck ava rampage and T POSING dealing 50mil damage in 2 seconds lmao
u forgot odyn's fury
inner shadow
we switched a lottt of specs and talents in Legion
inner shadow
u forgot odyn's fury
When it was first introduced yeah
thick fossil
Even the zones were fantastic.
south kayak
OF is a great aoe button but it does nothing in ST
inner shadow
I can’t wait til we reach Legion.. 3 more expansions and we would be on Legion
Let’s go
inner shadow
OF is a great aoe button but it does nothing in ST
We don’t use it in ST though
south kayak
wdym
thick fossil
My favorite mount is from Legion.
south kayak
in legion u did
south kayak
we are talking about legion
south kayak
pretty sure OF did more damage before it was nerfed a couple opf times
inner shadow
Having to weekly upgrade how much points i get
south kayak
rn
maiden ingot
Hey, hey, you member? When adds died and you were happy not because you got to padlord it up to 1000, but War Machine procced and you got a free budget lust for every add death? 
south kayak
than it did in legion
inner shadow
And u had to play 25 weeks to get max
inner shadow
Hey, hey, you member? When adds died and you were happy not because you got to p...
Yupp
inner shadow
We have higher health/dps than start of legion
Until s2 did we start doing 1.5-2mil dps
Even s3 actually
When gul’dan was up, we barely did the millie
fickle cedar
inner shadow
But ye only shit thing about legion was that npc fucker who we needed every week to increase the gains
thick fossil
<:clueless:1099922541923024997> <:cof:326862601646505996>
Such a good trinket.
lethal agate
Does anyone know how to find item ids and any corresponding bonus ids to try to sim gear?
inner shadow
<:clueless:1099922541923024997> <:cof:326862601646505996>
That combined sith draught of souls
But the gear system was insane too
Y could get mythic level gear from a lfr even
If u get the correct proc lmao
thick fossil
BFA titan forge was like that. Unlikely to happen, but it did.
inner shadow
Warforged or whatever tf it was called
fickle cedar
also execute/juggernaut was in peak form, now its a wet noodle 
inner shadow
Titanforge yeah
inner shadow
also execute/juggernaut was in peak form, now its a wet noodle <:sadge:820202363...
JUggernauttt
Stacking to what 50? 99?
thick fossil
99
fickle cedar
the classic video frame
fickle cedar
a sorry 5 you mean
inner shadow
inner shadow
the classic video frame
Insane we thought of same thing
fickle cedar
Insane we thought of same thing
yeah i love it
inner shadow
Kelade was popping off in Legion
fickle cedar
yeah i remember, is he even playing anymore ?
inner shadow
yeah i remember, is he even playing anymore ?
Only Amirfrassil, was his last video
From the raid, to the tower challenge, to the new isle with the new raid, Legion was literally so fuckin good
eternal sundial
Zen>Quitcake
inner shadow
And we went to a whole new world, Argus that was cool too. The raid not so much cuz the visuals were f awful
inner shadow
Zen>Quitcake
south kayak
reformed from what
inner shadow
It’s crazy to think that all that content was in one expansion..
south kayak
it isn't really
inner shadow
What other expansion was as big as Legion?
round prawn
Will there be much (overall) DPS difference between a 626 and 636 Off Hand?
inner shadow
In st it’s 15k ish dps increase. By simming. Unless it’s intellect u lose 130k
sonic shoal
Will there be much (overall) DPS difference between a 626 and 636 Off Hand?
Sim yourself
south kayak
In st it’s 15k ish dps increase. By simming. Unless it’s intellect u lose 130k <...
lmfao
round prawn
In st it’s 15k ish dps increase. By simming. Unless it’s intellect u lose 130k <...
Thank you
inner shadow
When you start thinking how much actual content there was in Legion, you’d realize that no other expansion has ever come close to it
Whoever was the executive director of that expansion, he got a free head card, bring that mf back cuz he COOKED
fickle cedar
The only thing i hated about it was the legendaries at launch, fucking gambling for massive power
inner shadow
oh i remember echo creating 10000 characters gambling for thje legendaries
when the monk got the legendary in maw of souls, the reaction was super f funny
sonic shoal
The only thing i hated about it was the legendaries at launch, fucking gambling ...
I remember we had a guild rank for member who had prydaz/sephuz
south kayak
acqusition of leggos was awful at start
thick fossil
In st it’s 15k ish dps increase. By simming. Unless it’s intellect u lose 130k <...
We need to be smort warriors. Lol
inner shadow
acqusition of leggos was awful at start
I got the arms legendary head at like the end of the expansion.. —-
inner shadow
We need to be smort warriors. Lol
Smart and warriors does not go along
sweet vessel
I have questions regarding enchants.
Do we want to put "Authority of the depths" on both weapons?
Do they stack for more suffocating darkness uptime? reach 3 stacks faster, or more shadow damage somehow?
narrow narwhal
Damage done
sweet vessel
So that's a yes then? We wants it on both weapons?
chrome plover
I have questions regarding enchants.
Do we want to put "Authority of the depths"...
the effect is doubled by having 2
sweet vessel
the effect is doubled by having 2
Excellent, thanks for the info!
thick fossil
A simpler time.
brittle crow
does anyone know if the silverpine -> hillsbrad -> wod route is still the fastest way to level a non-earthen
smoky vale
dungeon spam!
brittle crow
dungeon spam!
as dps? hell na
modest condor
timewalking can give you like 3 levels per dungeon
you can quest while in queue, but no way quests are faster than that
brittle crow
true i forgot it's timewalking
summer quail
so we died from 2 stack very fun
oh yea i saw that live, was pretty funny
south kayak
Do you guys know Lfx
covert blaze
does anyone know if the silverpine -> hillsbrad -> wod route is still the fastes...
think so yeah
brittle crow
think so yeah
leveling as an earthen is so much faster now it's stupid 😭
best racial in the game
last sparrow
wait why is earthen faster?
brittle crow
more zone discovery xp
last sparrow
oh wtf
brittle crow
with xp bonuses + more zone discovery u just fly around a good route discovering zones
10-70 in 2 hrs
gg
0 quests
xdddd
sonic shoal
So that's a yes then? We wants it on both weapons?
Depends if you raid or m+. It’s better for me to have 1 radiant power and 1 depths for M+. But you can find out what works best if you sim for 1 target 5 minutes and 5 targets 1.5 minute. I’d add stonebound artistry to the mix, it seems to be good as well
smoky vale
10-70 in 2 hrs
xd
gilded pawn
Someone tested and it was like 6-7 hours on release
That being said idk if they buffed it
humble lark
if am at max rage or close to it, do i prio rampage even if i got reckles abandon stacks?
fickle bluff
no
humble lark
ah ok so always lose the stacks before rampage even if highe on rage?
fickle bluff
yes
humble lark
sweet thanks ^^
sonic shoal
ah ok so always lose the stacks before rampage even if highe on rage?
As long as you're enraged. If not hit that rampage
humble lark
yea ofc 🙂
brittle crow
is there any cheap way to level ur heirlooms
whole yacht
Is it even worth leveling heirlooms
south kayak
prob not
whole yacht
I always end up just getting rid of all heirlooms by 30
brittle crow
enchant heirlooms at lvl 10 oneshot everything up to lvl 70
south kayak
good point hmmge
nocturne dragon
well I think heirloom is nice so when you leveling you don't have to worry about certain equip not increasing in ilvl.
brittle crow
and i wanna level my lock
nocturne dragon
if no heirloom then probably just spam timewalking dungeons?
brittle crow
soul crushing
whole yacht
I've never seen someone with heirlooms 1 shot anything to 70
brittle crow
i hate dungeon spam
whole yacht
Heirlooms don't give increase exp bonus anymore though. So there's no difference in leveling with or without. No? They just give "slightly extended rested xp"
Or am I stupid
brittle crow
enchants
u enchant at level 10, never have to switch, also you get double stats for a long ass time every level
so you oneshot things
which helps u level faster, more uptime on double stats
whole yacht
Double stats from what? I've been fully enchanted with upgraded heirlooms. It stopped being worth it between 30 and 35
brittle crow
set bonus
whole yacht
I've never seen someone 1 shot "till 70"
whole yacht
Screenshot for me? I can't get on
brittle crow
30 minutes??
whole yacht
After higher lvls
whole yacht
Half your time spent during that is running
whole yacht
If you want an actual speed level
Go do the dragonriding discover zones and be 70 in 4 hours
whole yacht
Maybe 3 if the extra xp is still active
So 4 1/2 to 5 instead. What's the "good route" time?
whole yacht
I've never heard of this method then. I've googled in the last 6 months fast leveling cuz I hate leveling. Nothing mentioned this method you are talking about.
I will have to look into it
whole yacht
I don't pay attention to "world record wow leveling"
brittle crow
u tried looking up speed leveling without just looking up the fastest method?
whole yacht
Figured it would pop up from Googling "fastest leveling" no?
brittle crow
smh
gleaming juniper
I don't pay attention to "world record wow leveling"
but you just said you googled speed leveling lol
whole yacht
I've never heard of this method then. I've googled in the last 6 months fast lev...
No?
"I've googled fast leveling"
Right there
south kayak
You do bonus dmg for small amount of time. Every 30 minutes
what is this classic
lol
whole yacht
Oh yeah mb my Google is just broken i guess
I stg no one in this chat has heard of exaggeration.
brittle crow
true
whole yacht
I do find it funny how i proved him wrong so he went further back to knit pick something else
brittle crow
who got proved wrong here
whole yacht
What was proved in our discussion? I have to look for the proof myself
gleaming juniper
I do find it funny how i proved him wrong so he went further back to knit pick s...
you sound like you were just looking for an argument in the internet
brittle crow
xd
coarse nest
brittle crow
i try to live up to my anime pfp..
whole yacht
Oh yeah totally. Asking questions. Giving my experience. And waiting for a response is just BEGGING for an argument
My pfp isn't even a female character
Either
brittle crow
thats even worse!
whole yacht
True mb
modest condor
imagine having an anime profile picture on the internet
whole yacht
On god
eternal sundial
i try to live up to my anime pfp..
am i an anime pfp
whole yacht
Technically
brittle crow
owo
whole yacht
Why uWu when I can UwU
whole yacht
Seems you are out numbered by the anime pfp's
brittle crow
wtf 2nd profession are u supposed to have on enchanting
if enchanting doesnt need a gathering prof
tailoring??
coarse nest
alchemy or engi ofc
coarse nest
only need 25 for the double flask and dungeon buff
brittle crow
dungeon buff?
coarse nest
ye like engi buff requires skill level 25
whole yacht
Every proff has things they can do in certain dungeons
brittle crow
oh those
whole yacht
Requires 25 in the proff or the correct class/race
brittle crow
yea
tbh the real answer is im way too lazy for any of this and my guild provides flasks so i prob wont level any
whole yacht
Lmao
bold heart
is it worth reforging all my tank gear from haste/vers to haste/mastery for fury?
is haste/mastery still viable for prot or will i not be able to tank anymore
tardy stump
heya. are there any 2H transmogs that look and feel like 1Hs?
bold heart
sweet vessel
Depends if you raid or m+. It’s better for me to have 1 radiant power and 1 dept...
I do raid but no M+ for me really, I kind of suck and I don't want to brick my guildmates keys with my badness (and I never PuG anything)
I have Seal of the Poisoned Pact ring, and I was wondering if maybe putting Authority of the Storms on atleast one weapon would be worth it to put out more nature damage...Sims indicate no though.
So is that Patchwerk 5 bosses I should run?
coarse nest
I like to sim patchwerk 5 target 1.5minute to gear for M+
past pivot
Usually go with 5 targets, no buffs save for battle shout. 60 seconds.
frigid temple
yea idk, its hdr. if anyone has a fix pst
eternal sundial
i have hdr and it doesnt fry my game like that generally
idk tho if i ss OBS it does
kind scaffold
ppl always ask me why my brightness is so high when i screen share
like mine dont look like that
ancient quiver
covert blaze
zhai dented as usual 😢
hardy cargo
we love zhai ❤️
covert blaze
humble lark
is there a haste cap you go for as fury ? a friend of mine told me we go for 25-28 atm. which make having alot more being at 32
summer quail
is there a haste cap you go for as fury ? a friend of mine told me we go for 25-...
nahh, you just go whatever the sim tells you to
humble lark
ok 🙂
summer quail
think i'm at 23% unbuffed
radiant knot
glossy wadi
Can someone explain me why Fury has such different positions on the Wowhead and Icy Veins tier lists? Wowhead gives it an S-tier, Icy Veins puts it bottom of B tier, just above Fire Mage and Windwalker
sudden tusk
It's good in raid mediocre in m+
glossy wadi
They're both for raid
As in, wowhead and Icy Veins both have separate tier lists for all 3 roles for raids and M+
And in the wowhead raid tier list for DPS, it's S-tier, and in the Icy Veins tier list for Raid DPS it's bottom of B-tier, third worst in fact
modest condor
because tierlists are a meme
undone flower
There are a meme and maybe one is not « up to date » than the other
glossy wadi
Might be. Wowhead has been updated early november, Icy Veins late October
summer quail
if they're up to date or not, you still should not take tierlists seriously
sullen dove
they are meme is 90% of the takeaway there
no one cares about tierlists
except brainrotted m+ pug leaders
(which unfortunately is a lot of ppl)
glossy wadi
Probably not no. Then how do you recommend I compare different specs of the same class to figure out which one I should play?
I don't really care what I play, but I need to choose something
sullen dove
idk can trial them to see each ones basic rotation at a high lvl
i think those are still a thing
not sure what level it puts you at
glossy wadi
I got everything at level 70 multiple times and am planning on leveling the 6 or so classes I don't yet have at 80 over the next month or so
sullen dove
summer quail
just pick whatever sounds fun to you fantasy wise, check out gameplay of different specs etc. it's pointless to play the strongest class if you can't stand the rotation
glossy wadi
True. Plus, something I rarely see people say is that with modern talent trees and especially hero talents you can usually choose to opt out of certain talents or aspects of a playstyle
modest condor
it's a very easy question with a very complex answer
the short answer is: it depends
if you want to know what does the most damage in raid you can look at warcraftlogs
summer quail
took me ages to find what i liked, before warrior i was rerolling left and right
modest condor
if you want to know what is the strongest in m+ you can look at raiderio leaderboards
but that doesnt take into account that high keys and low keys have different needs
glossy wadi
Everyone is always so damn focused on playing the mathematically best setup, but honestly? I only do LFR on most of them, so as long as my damage on queen Ansurek isn't the lowest in the group, I don't really care
undone flower
Might be. Wowhead has been updated early november, Icy Veins late October
Like everyone says, you don’t care about tierlist, just look what you prefer, they are spec than are sometime really inting yes (bm launch), if you want to push rank 1 keys maybe consider meta, but to follow meta you need to have multiple characters ready to jump right away when a tuning happens
glossy wadi
Same with Warrior: that's just one of the characters that I take through Queen's Fall every week
Queen's Fall being the LFR wing that Ansurek is in
for the mount
The moment I get that mount, most of them are going to languish
summer quail
Everyone is always so damn focused on playing the mathematically best setup, but...
can play whatever you want, even mythic queen ansurek will have all specs killing it at the end of the tier. maybe all specs already have? i haven't checked in a while
heavy dock
for sure all have by now
glossy wadi
I got Monk, Paladin, DK, Warrior, Evoker, Warlock and Druid at max level
summer quail
for sure all have by now
fyrakk took a while before the first public arms kill atleast, wouldn't be surprised either way
glossy wadi
Monk is my main, all the rest is around 570-580 ilvl, many of them with a crafted 2H weapon
undone flower
570 means it is impossible to consider/value their dps, you have pre season ilvl
glossy wadi
yeah, it's veteran gear with some greens and blues
Some of them don't even have a 4P yet because BRD gear doesn't work with the Catalyst
undone flower
I wouldn’t care about tier set if my char is 570 ilvl, I would just do delves to get to 600 and start m+ (if it’s your thing ofc, do whatever content you enjoy)
glossy wadi
Honestly, the only character I might maybe do M+ on is my warrior, as a tank
And hes above 580
undone flower
If you have max reputations you can craft a bunch of 619 items
glossy wadi
and even then, most of the M+ I've done so far is on my monk
True, but there's a HUGE problem with that: you need 250 Valorstones for every crafted item, and I haven't yet figured out an efficient way to get those on new toons
Like, you can't use Runed Crests with blue gear
you need a Spark item
And a spark takes 250 Valorstones to craft
undone flower
Idk I had enough to craft a bunch when I picked up rep rewards + delves on my alt
glossy wadi
You get a couple from Renown, but those that you buy, you need Resonance Crystals for
haughty cloud
Do fury warriors get brought to keys?
glossy wadi
wait, you can buy them for coins? I thought you needed crystals
undone flower
wait, you can buy them for coins? I thought you needed crystals
At the delve vendor, where you can buy a full 580 gear
wise solar
Hi Guys!
I don't know why, but seems like my Thunder Blast spell is underperforming in DMG.
Do you have any clue why?
I guess I do something wrong, or I miss something.
The sim has avg 5.2m dmg, while I have 3.28m
(Ok, I missed the flask, redone the test, but still underperforming, 3,82 like this)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DMrdyga7JYxGjBtQ#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=5
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5XtcgGoR7KqqZ6YvABc2yt
covert blaze
@modest condor what is the parry chance of bosses
undone flower
The vendor you spend the shitty coins you get by doing delves
covert blaze
3%?
modest condor
yes
glossy wadi
My routine up until now was 1. ding 80; 2. get everything per-character renown reward; 3. buy full set of 558-564 BoEs from AH for 200-500G per item apart from jewelry (1-3K for that); 4. Buy and catalyze 2 Veteran pieces from renown vendors; 5. get some extra Valorstones and Crests from the upgrade dude; 6. check my Warbank for any Warbound gear. At this point, I'm usually geared enough for LFR
Usually all of that takes 20-30 minutes
Lately I've also taken to getting a 619 crafted 2H if my spec can use those, with a Nerubian embellishment. If I then got a spare Spark I also craft a 619 armorpiece with a Banding
undone flower
Personally when I’m « interested » in a class (I did 3 times for this since I’m a little bit done with this patch), I hop on the class, buy full 580 with delve coins, jump into delves / if I don’t like gameplay I just quit the char / if there may be a thing, I do some m+ (and again I quit if I finally don’t like it)
glossy wadi
Hi Guys!
I don't know why, but seems like my Thunder Blast spell is underperfor...
You're simming 5 boss targets, so every sim has additional hits
glossy wadi
Also, you're hitting a dummy
modest condor
what are the chances of this happening <:detective:912341312907378689>
0.03*0.03
glossy wadi
so you don't have ANY raid buffs
wise solar
so you don't have ANY raid buffs
In the sim, I haven't added raid buffs, and the test was done on 5 target dummies
undone flower
And I don’t think any raid buff would change spell dmg order
wise solar
And I don’t think any raid buff would change spell dmg order
Yeah I agree
I am not sure, what is happening here, I am 100% sure, that I am stupid in some way, just don't know where 😄
glossy wadi
Oh wait, I see what's going on
glossy wadi
I think you're not comparing the same damage events in each
modest condor
0.0009%?
no, chances are calculated from 0 to 1, if you then want to know the percentage you need to multiply by 100%, so 0.09%
undone flower
Do X% this type of dmg more where most classes are heavily one sided type dmg, would not change the outcome I think
glossy wadi
Basically, the sim combines Thunder Strikes into Thunder Blast, but Warcraft Logs doesn't
Also, you hit 5 fewer thunder Blasts during your own damage attempt, which is almost 25% less than the Sim hits
So of course Thunder Blast is going to be a lower part of your damage breakdown
wise solar
Basically, the sim combines Thunder Strikes into Thunder Blast, but Warcraft Log...
I subtracted the Lighting Strike dmg, and I am checking the avg/cast
If you add ALL Lightning Strike to my Thunder Blast, it is in align BUT it is not correct, because other spells can trigger Lightning Strikes as well
glossy wadi
I'd look at the HTML report of your sim as well: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5XtcgGoR7KqqZ6YvABc2yt/simc Your Lightning Strike base hit averages there are remarkably close
or not
wise solar
Something is suspicious for me here
glossy wadi
Does the Sim say what stance you were using?
sorry, the logs
I don't think it's mentioning a stance in your buffs
wise solar
Good catch, let me check, but I am pretty sure I am using the right stance
I am in Berserker :/
But it was a good tip
I really hope it is not a new bug, and I am just stupid 😄
glossy wadi
Also check your buffs. The sim has a food buff, a flask, a Battle Shout and a DF Augment Rune active
wise solar
Yes, I missed the flask, so I redone the test, but still behind by 1,4m dmg/cast
modest condor
can you show a screenshot of your talents ingame
wise solar
charred lava
Wowhead has the Charged Claymore with Versatility and Mastery. Is that right? I would've thought Haste and Mastery. Want to make sure I get this right before I craft
wise solar
Should be the same, because I used SimC addon.
glossy wadi
I'm gonna hand it over to someone else, gonna go to bed
charred lava
😞
sonic shoal
I see so many warriors recently in 13~ keys, what happened 😮
wise solar
Hi Guys!
I don't know why, but seems like my Thunder Blast spell is underperfor...
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7azchq1ZFw92Ary8#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=5
Here the flask is not missing, still huge gap, even if I sim to Dummies WITHOUT ANY CONSUMABLE:
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iyVX9ZqZ2841b9KXT433Rn
frigid temple
All the Dks and Shamans died 😄
sonic shoal
Well I'm still seeing a lot of shammies, but also ret pallies. Barely any dk's though
wise solar
Can someone check it also?
Compare 5 target dummy test against SIM?
modest condor
something does look weird, i brought it up with the people doing the simcraft stuff we'll see if they can figure it out
sudden tusk
I see so many warriors recently in 13~ keys, what happened 😮
all the good specs dont need 13s anymore
wise solar
Thank you! I even tried to relog, change spec then change back, etc...
modest condor
i tested myself and it's also doing way less damage ingame than in the sim
so im guessing something is wrong in the sims, but idk how to figure that out so they'll have to look into it
wise solar
Funny thing I do less dmg like this in MT that in Slayer... 🙂 For constant 5 targets
modest condor
i pretty consistently do more damage as thane than as slayer in m+
sonic shoal
all the good specs dont need 13s anymore
Kinda feels like it, there are barely any keys for that level now
wise solar
As Thane I can do 3.2-3.4 now, as Slayer I do 3.6-3.7 for 5 mins
sudden tusk
Kinda feels like it, there are barely any keys for that level now
i fully rerolled to dk and im already almost done with 13s
wise solar
Before this, I've done more in Thane as well for 5 targets, maybe the issue is not the SIM, but Blizzard done something wrong
sudden tusk
DK doesnt even do that much more damage then warrior its just got more util
sonic shoal
i fully rerolled to dk and im already almost done with 13s
And here I am crying in brown ;_; I miss last 3 keys (SV, GB and CoT) on 13 to be full, but don't get invited at all lol
Yeah well that battle rez/grip goes wild. That's why you see a lot of pallies but also shammies and stuff with util... Warrior doesn't stand out at all :/
modest condor
DK doesnt even do that much more damage then warrior its just got more util
cap
warrior and dk have similar amounts of utility
and dk does significantly more dps during cooldowns
sonic shoal
Idk, AMZ feels invaluable for 3rd boss CoT for example
Rally doesn't even feel that strong
So other than shout and shockwave I don't feel like we have much to offer
modest condor
neither does dk
they have grip, bres and amz
bres you can use engi so at best it's more convenient
sonic shoal
Well with how many prot pallys are there, you have bres in most cases anyways
Yeah but no one considers it. I've had engi for ages and it saved some keys, but it's not a thing that will get me invited
modest condor
people dont invite because of utility
they invite because a spec is meta
and specs are meta because of how much throughput they have 95% of the time
sonic shoal
Yeah and I hate it that blizzard can't balance out classes. Like give classes utility, but make their utility less. Or make them deal more damage when they have no utility. So you have to sacrifice one for the other
sudden tusk
right now DK isnt even the meta
sonic shoal
I'm not sure why target capping even came to the game, when some classes are not target capped
sudden tusk
Enhance/assasination rogue is
sonic shoal
And people love their augs for high keys
modest condor
there are like 300 dks for every assa in the top 1k runs
sudden tusk
the only reason aug continues to be meta is becuase blizzards damage scaling is terrible
the other issue being that aug just gets to copy other damage CDs
sonic shoal
Maybe, but what do you want to get from higher keys? More mechanics?
sudden tusk
so you just take the 2 best specs + aug so you get 3 best dps in the game + group utility
sonic shoal
Right now we have so many dungs where you can't overpull because the interrupts will kill you
sudden tusk
Shorter Timer, More Health, Better balancing
modest condor
you wanna know a unique utility that warrior has?
the ability to taunt spell reflect
sonic shoal
Idk if shorter timer or more health would show better players than receiving damage does. Because you learn to utilize your defensives more and more health would only mean more padding/even more pressure on meta classes
modest condor
there are a lot of really dangerous tank busters this season that we can just completely immune every other one of
sudden tusk
yeah if the mobs didnt one shot you with a melee it would be more vialble
modest condor
it is 100% viable
sonic shoal
there are a lot of really dangerous tank busters this season that we can just co...
Maybe in a stable group, but I'm afraid I wouldn't try that with an unknowing tank
sudden tusk
yeah i sure love running away from the despoiler in Stone vualt because the game decided it wants to melee me before casting shadow claw
modest condor
mists maze, lava guys in the 2nd boss area in grim batol, the guys between the 2nd boss and the 3rd boss in grim batol, the big guys in stonevault that also do the aoe
sonic shoal
And you can for example outrange the Lava Golem in Grim Batol
sudden tusk
the issue is there is value to be had, but that value isnt worth it
when all you have to do is bring an aug and the tank doesnt give a shit about the busters
modest condor
Maybe in a stable group, but I'm afraid I wouldn't try that with an unknowing ta...
sure but if you're playing at a difficult level then you can communicate ahead of time with the tank that you will taunt reflect, and they will keep an eye out
at the level where tanks dont realise you're taunt reflecting the mechanic isnt dangerous for them anyway
modest condor
when all you have to do is bring an aug and the tank doesnt give a shit about th...
im just pointing out that warrior has unique utility
ofcourse there are other classes you can bring that also help with them
sonic shoal
at the level where tanks dont realise you're taunt reflecting the mechanic isnt ...
Well if they don't have cds/don't know how to spread them out, it is dangerous. And a lot of tanks around 12-14s are still learning that
So that would be helpful
I guess you could also take intervene for Necrotic Wake first boss, with enrage and def stance you have a pretty easy life to live through the belch
modest condor
i used to do that in shadowlands all the time
sonic shoal
And well thanks to def stance we're one of the most durable classes in the game
- we can get rid of 1 orb spawn on first boss CoT, we negate every other Splice in last one and so on
But I guess no people but the healers notice those
sonic shoal
I didn't try it yet. You would have to click SR like 3 seconds early, right?
storm birch
My two favorites this season to spell reflect are the orbs on first boss of CoT cause it makes that fight beyond easy and the corrupted adds that channel on you right before last boss GB. That channel nukes them if you reflect it on a high key
Maybe tied between first boss CoT and last boss CoT
last sparrow
oh wait spell reflect avoids the debuff completely? on first boss cot
modest condor
yes
last sparrow
dang
summer quail
My two favorites this season to spell reflect are the orbs on first boss of CoT ...
i wish details tracked the spell reflect damage from the corrupt, it definetely deals damage to itself but idk how much a channel is
storm rune
i wish details tracked the spell reflect damage from the corrupt, it definetely ...
I can track it on Ansurak though, is it because it's a channel or something?
mossy fox
its definitely noticeable
summer quail
I can track it on Ansurak though, is it because it's a channel or something?
you can track it on most things. channels most often as well. spell reflect is just weird overall
and what you can or can't spell reflect often makes no sense
mossy fox
probably one of the bigger reflects but we prolly got away with it cause it's not on details 
wise solar
something does look weird, i brought it up with the people doing the simcraft st...
Also, please check the proc rate, because it is also less than in Raidbot ( I mean in simulation Thunder Blast has more proc, than in the actual game)
It is really sus, that slayer talent does more dmg for me for sustained aoe right now. 😄 I am curious if is it a bug in Raidbot or bug in the game.
(Or maybe my stats are better for slayer)
wild mural
huh
ebon junco
ebon junco
HUH
wild mural
clever belfry
king blue boss parse
modest condor
Also, please check the proc rate, because it is also less than in Raidbot ( I me...
procrate doesnt look off, that's just a bit of rng, you only tested a couple of minutes after all, but that big of a difference in damage cant be explained by rng
i think we may have found it tho, and it's bad news
wise solar
game bug? 😄
modest condor
game bug would be good news
edgy widget
I found it; awhile back Blizz changed the Thunder Blast talent to only increase the damage of the ability for Prot, while Fury used its own damage multiplier in the Fury Warrior spec aura instead
Except they didn't flag the effect in their public spell data (that SimC reads) to stipulate "Prot only" anywhere, so it was still being applied to Fury as well
wise solar
Ahh okey, thank you! 🙂
Then maybe it is normal, that in game actually I do more in Slayer 😄
modest condor
thane should still do more aoe damage, just not as much as the sims made it look
wise solar
Then my skill issue 😄
modest condor
i think this will lower it from like 13% ahead to ~7% ahead
edgy widget
in order to cut down overhead, SimC reads as much of Blizz spell data as it can, that way when a coefficient or something changes, someone doesn't have to go in and manually change 30% to 40% or whatever
Except sometimes shit still happens and doesn't get caught until someone notices 
Blizz has more and more done stuff via scripting that can't be read and sometimes we also just miss things that we think should be picked up automatically but aren't
wise solar
Maybe it is the case for slayer.
Usually it sims me 400k less than actually I do in game.
slim coral
Never
edgy widget
if you ever wonder why "QA sucks/how are there so many bugs in the game" this is a good example of how innocuous tech issues can be missed - despite all the people who constantly compare in-game vs sim performance, it still took this long for anyone to notice the error!
wise solar
Anyway, thank you for investigating it 🙂
wise solar
if you ever wonder why "QA sucks/how are there so many bugs in the game" this is...
Yeah I always try it on dummies as well, I have trust issues 😄 And I haven't tried mountain thane a while
modest condor
it's funny because it seems so obvious
like it's doing over 20% in sims and nobody has ever had it do that much ingame
and yet nobody thought "hey that's odd"
well "over 20%"
edgy widget
with how many temporary modifiers there are flying around in the game, some numerical inconsistency is expected, and over time you kinda become inured to it
at the same time, it's nice to think that "oh someone will just recheck every single number in the game every patch" but that'd be obscenely time consuming
modest condor
sounds like someone needs a hyperbolic time chamber
edgy widget
Though this could have easily been caught with a little more diligence, it's not really that unusual; at least this one is easy to correct and relatively low impact
chilly tulip
Damn Im really really lost is thane r slayer better in mythic plus damn
chilly tulip
ooh thanks
Also Is someone here like an "expert" on the raidbots page I need to know how to sim
also lower keys meaning?
like a 8?
manic pelican
Not sure tbh now now knowing numbers can be borked. I can say that live comparison against other similarly geared slayers in m+ and raid that I can and have out dps’d both with Thane. I’m sure that’s just a player spec execution thing, as none of us are robots or ai.
modest condor
lower/higher is subjective, but a streamer i follow recently said "if a wipe means we cant time it anymore it's a high key" and i think that's a pretty cool way to look at it
chilly tulip
Im just starting to gear so I need to grind
got to 2077 score as tank now I wanna dps
manic pelican
Well if you wanted to be handed the simmed +15 - +19 data it’s spoken for by thane, but not by a margin significantly higher than AM Slayer. Play to your strengths first and the dps will come easier when you fine tune later.
edgy widget
Thane is better in raw multitarget, which is what most general Mythic+ performance falls under
chilly tulip
as thane I have t use thunderclap?
Sorry some letters dosnt show cause my keyboard is dying D:
edgy widget
yes, Thane has to use Thunder Clap
feral ivy
today 2 hrs ago i started
with 11GB>10>GB>10AK>13COT>12GB>11GB... im back where i was 2 hrs ago with no gained lp
pulsar nest
Yesterday in 4hours : 14-13-12-11-12-11-10-12 i know it's not a competition but damn i was mad (3147 rio)
grizzled cape
What's the macro to use Reckless + avatar + Champion's Spear drops under my place
feral ivy
im just trying to get to 3k im 52i.o away and then im done for the season and going to do massive meta achievements for mounts that are in PTR
pulsar nest
#showtooltip
/Cast reck
/Cast avatar
/Cast [@cursor] sprear
grizzled cape
maybe @pulsar wing
pulsar nest
You can replace @cursor with @player but i don't advise it
pulsar nest
Aiming with mouse is more accurate than using your chracter
Specialy pack with add frontal/cleave
You want to be behind them but clip them in spear
feral ivy
if ur doing it for princess and 3rd raid boss then i think its fine
pulsar nest
Oh for boss could work fine then
grizzled cape
ye only for those 2 bosses
feral ivy
ill still use cursor tho.. u can move at wrong time or think ur in spot ur not
sweet vessel
Hmm...sim indicates an odd choice for me.
In AoE build on 5 patchwerk bosses it likes double morsel mashers, but in my single-target build on 1 boss, it wants me to hold on to a weapon that is 4 ilvls lower...And I cannot quite figure out why...?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4sDVkrBF4ces6JCJ3PghML
summer quail
Hmm...sim indicates an odd choice for me.
In AoE build on 5 patchwerk bosses it ...
see the special effect on the weapon?
that is why
sweet vessel
see the special effect on the weapon?
Yes the fire damage....So why does it not want that in an AoE situation?
summer quail
coz it hits 1 target, the weapon has no secondary stats
sweet vessel
🤔 I'm feeling like I'm stoopid and missing something obvious, why does it not hit more than one target, because it is in offhand or something?
storm rune
So in ST the effect outweighs the loss of stats, but since it's not cleaving, you're losing those stats worth of damage on all the other mobs
sweet vessel
Okay so the fire damage does not cleave at all then...Huh.
I didn't pay much attention to the specific wording, I just assumed in AoE I'm in a target rich environment and everything within my reach (and target cap) is my target 😏
But if the fire can only be on my main targeted enemy then I guess it makes sense
heavy dock
i wish details tracked the spell reflect damage from the corrupt, it definetely ...
corrupt is deflect
im pretty sure
there are no fun reflects for dps in this patch sadly
hopefully next
covert blaze
nah it definitely does damage https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VPkwJgmzj7BTN...
holy
batchest
brittle crow
i think im gonna make a vulpera warlock
rare fjord
does vicious contempt hit everyone for +50% if main target is under 35% or is every target health checked individually?
modest condor
individually
feral ivy
the moment i see another fury warrior get picked over me in keys i feel bitter but then im like "im happy for them" at the same time lol
storm rune
I always feel bad not inviting more warriors, especially when they put things like "Zug stronger together" in their notes
haughty cloud
Trying to decide between Assassin and Fury, sounds like fury has a harder time getting invited to pugs?
storm rune
I love ass personally, tons of utility with tricks/gougegarrote/stealth+cheat death and a great damage profile
whole yacht
Trying to decide between Assassin and Fury, sounds like fury has a harder time g...
Assassination is a meta spec. Fury isn't.
covert blaze
holy based
whole yacht
Lmao
whole yacht
Lmao
brittle crow
holy based
so real
serene vessel
Fellas is there an album that has more back to back bangers than dopamine by Borns
sinful spoke
who
brittle crow
Fellas is there an album that has more back to back bangers than dopamine by Bor...
lovecop by royal republic
tbh
stiff dust
Fierce Followthrough or Opportunist on brood ?
young swan
ff
feral ivy
Crazy ppl timing 17s while im struggling on 12 GB
feral ivy
Almost timed it like AMAZING dmg but someone got but hurt after someone said “kick I kept getting killed by bolts” the person who got mad was person with 0 kicks during a pull lol
brittle crow
lmao
there is no functional difference in train of thought and mouse movement between refreshing agony and moving my worker to the next tile
brittle crow
do u have ur macro tracker up to date
modest condor
dont sign up if you dont track macros
brittle crow
my usual way of mapping buttons simply doesnt work on affliction
likeeeeee does soul drain go on the raging blow button? or is agony supposed to go on the raging blow button..
ok agony goes on the heroic throw button
modest condor
just get it from vault
oh yeah, it's happened twice now where i "farmed" a trinket and when it finally drops i also get it in the vault that same week
pretty funny
farm meaning doing the dungeon once or twice per day
covert blaze
that happened to me with might of the ocean
i did like
idk like 30 runs
and then i got it on vault
i never got it natty
storm rune
I still remember that dude from S3 who farmed it like 80 times in 2 weeks
storm rune
might that was the name
covert blaze
skarmorak was my first vault this season
modest condor
nice
my first one was the neck from stonevault
i think? damn it's been a while
let me go look at my old screenshots
yeah it was the neck
pretty happy with that one since im not raiding so no chance for rare neck
brittle crow
just get it from vault
this has happened to me too many times
i dont farm trinkets anymore xd
either i get it as a drop coincidentally or i get it in vault coincidentally but if i farm it its never dropping so i just play whatever my pals wanna do
compact flint
Yall can laugh at me if you want but I cant beat Zekvir still on ?? as 626 fury warrior
storm rune
Took me a while to get him down, spell queuing can suck a dick
grim prism
Yall can laugh at me if you want but I cant beat Zekvir still on ?? as 626 fury ...
me neither
brittle crow
so if im just getting back into wow now
do i still have time to get all the anniversary rewards xd
mounts and multiple t2 sets
modest condor
they giga increased the amount of bronze you get from the weekly stuff, and once you collect 100 of them you can farm them
brittle crow
ic
modest condor
not sure if you can actually get 100 in 1 week tho, but with reset being half a week away it'll be easy within 7 days
brittle crow
is there a checklist anywhere
modest condor
no idea
errant vessel
might of the ocean was the first one
I did like 18 hero track Underrots before Vial dropped for me... then got it in vault as well
modest condor
i got 3 vials in the first 10 runs i did but never got it in vault
errant vessel
i got 3 vials in the first 10 runs i did but never got it in vault
Guess I should’ve queued with you
fading sky
i had am ara kara run early this season where.i brought 2 m8s to my key
Both got trinket...
I continued to do another 20 runs then i got it
south kayak
trail bane
oh yeah, it's happened twice now where i "farmed" a trinket and when it finally ...
The loot gods can be cruel. Happened to me in DF season 1, did AA 53 times to get the trinket and then i got it in the vault the week after. So i got to enjoy 2 out of 3 raid nights using the trinket i worked so hard to farm.
trail bane
Yall can laugh at me if you want but I cant beat Zekvir still on ?? as 626 fury ...
you can spell reflect the fear to get some extra damage and you can dispell the poison from the cast by charging if you have the Slayer talent that makes Charge remove movement impairing effects (Relentless Assault), since the poison is a slow
after knowing those two things the fight becomes all about not letting the spiders spawn
which you should have the damage for
storm rune
I talented in to Berserker's Torment and just saved BS/Avatar/Reck for the dot dispel
Had one too many issues with charge on that fight to rely on it
dry halo
Yall can laugh at me if you want but I cant beat Zekvir still on ?? as 626 fury ...
Highly recommend watching crits attempt on the fight, towards the end it's a DPS race as brann will die
Did it on 630 as slayer arms
rose jacinth
Hello! im woundering if its worth to make crafting gloves or should i craft a ring instead?
eternal sundial
sim it
radiant plank
yeah
inner harbor
if you already have your embelish on your belt then craft a ring*
smoky vale
que paso
flat river
So im in a 4/8 guild right
I love the community
But i got approached by a 6/8 guild
smoky vale
you can always play with them
GOGOGOOGOGOOGOGOG
IGOGOGOOGOGOGOOGOGOG
are they good
or desparate
smoky vale
i think you go
flat river
I checked their logs
flat river
I don't know if i have what it takes to jump from Ovinax prog to silken court
smoky vale
just watch people do fight
and learn mechanics
when i was trialing for a guild late s3
i legit pulled up to nymue not knowing mythic changes
did most damage and did not cause wipes
flat river
I mean i am a quick learner
smoky vale
i believe
flat river
Ok ok ill do it
smoky vale
you can always plsy with people you like
flat river
Ig
smoky vale
just have to make effort
flat river
Oki
smoky vale
i wonder if i should have taken a trial i got from a ce guild in s4
but they raided legit demonic hours for me
12-3 am
flat river
XD
smoky vale
er 2
lament otter
Rookie question, if I upgrade one ring, will I be able to upgrade my 2nd cheaper?
smoky vale
if you do the 636 exploit
lament otter
Can't say I know it
flat river
Also since i started raiding with the guild I'm in I haven't gotten a single item
smoky vale
make a 636 ring with wrong stats go to different crafter use correct stats
idk if its still in the game though
smoky vale
Also since i started raiding with the guild I'm in I haven't gotten a single ite...
why not?
flat river
I don't know ;-;
smoky vale
could you have used the upgrades and they just priod others
flat river
Ig others had bigger upgrades
lament otter
Also since i started raiding with the guild I'm in I haven't gotten a single ite...
After how many raids?
lament otter
isnt mandate pretty shit for warrior? I never see anyone using it
smoky vale
?
lament otter
oh nvm
flat river
XD
lament otter
im still waking up
flat river
Zzzzz
lament otter
🛌
smoky vale
pretty sure i saw an hc transmitter week 2 or 3
and i just took a mythic neck over it
would have to check
flat river
I got mythic ara-kara trinket first week of m+ vault
Then shard the week after
I kept getting good vaults till warrior got buffed
Blizz was cancelling out the nerfs for me
flat river
I really feel like blizzard were trolling us
They nerfed us 2 times
Then were like
"what if we keep nerfing them"
XD
flat river
wcl
smoky vale
i forgor to set that up
oops
i forgor bc i joined current through knowing a player in it
flat river
IG killing 7/8 mythic VotI and 7/9 mythic Abberus in season 4 helped
flat river
It shows
smoky vale
poggas
white rampart
can anyone give me the macro for focus cast, and if there's no focus, it will just cast on myself?
grizzled shard
random question but ive seen a number of people running the VC thane m+ build over the OF build, is this the new go to or am i right in assuming its a situational thing?
eternal sundial
can anyone give me the macro for focus cast, and if there's no focus, it will ju...
for what spell
cuz idk what warrior would want there
summer quail
random question but ive seen a number of people running the VC thane m+ build ov...
It's more prio/st for less aoe. It's more preferance
grizzled shard
It's more prio/st for less aoe. It's more preferance
thank you, admittidly i am kinda liking the prio ST damage