rare skyholder chatter w?
#fury
brittle crow
idk why every1 here thinks i troll. i only say smart things
inner shadow
oh well, trash like always
eternal sundial
oh well, trash like always
Mythic raider and ur wep issue is fixed xdd
Youd just go BSL
inner shadow
Youd just go BSL
first time i see that item + first time i see someone type it like that ngl
zinc wadi
I think my vault is a no brainer, using shard and a delve trinket atm, got transmitter, ez gg
bitter palm
cbt begins...
eternal sundial
first time i see that item + first time i see someone type it like that ngl
BSL is a df embellishment
I meant dusk or dawnthread
Idk which is the vers one xdd
bitter palm
it will forever be called bsl
inner shadow
embelishment on ring?
bitter palm
cloak bracers feet
bitter palm
low impact slot we have really good rings
inner shadow
yup i also have on wrist
whe n will we get weekly raid quest mane
@eternal sundial https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qEj55CpqehNgEsWshqKMCs
nothing is an upgrade. Wow
socket at 630 ilvl is DIABOLICAL
eternal sundial
@bitter palm i have 1 HC slot from our pug ys
I forgot to do anything else
So i either natty ansurek or i get 2 tokens
hollow valley
Isn't the delve merchant gear 580?
hollow valley
564s
Or abouts ya
I did some 574 sigil crafted proper stat rings and neck for new slots now
fluid kite
What do you guys think about the Ovinax trinket? I got the myth version in the vault. Currently 626 Hero Sacbrood and 639 Skarmorak Shard equipped. Sim says 10k DPS increase with Egg 639 instead of Sacbrood
bitter palm
<@692035495718551564> i have 1 HC slot from our pug ys
xd
inner shadow
we get 1 spark per week ye?
eternal sundial
What do you guys think about the Ovinax trinket? I got the myth version in the v...
Turbo annoying
eternal sundial
You can write a ticket but they refuse it every time, JB has tried, zerocool etc
inner shadow
ye he said u can rebound from thisd
ye rebound on this dick
rebounce*
how do you sim on which piece of gear you should use the socket?
eternal sundial
Click the Plus
Add socket (gv)
Only socket permanent items
Myth tier helm/belt/crafted wrist etc
eternal sundial
Are u ever in the position to care about brood prog
- id get shard and not play cringe trinkets
covert blaze
cloak bracers feet
mmm feet
bitter palm
mmmm
tardy trench
does deadly onyx and versatile onyx considered different color? for "unique algari gem color" gems?
golden hare
ja
covert blaze
ja
latent ledge
does deadly onyx and versatile onyx considered different color? for "unique alga...
its based on the "blue name" that you see right below the name
onyx, ruby...
open otter
Hey sirs!
I got a very confusing Vault...Lots of good stuff. Wildhammer/Setpiece Legs/Mark of Kardros out of Vault and Transmitter 626 in Bag...Raidbots is giving me this, do we agree here? Cause keeping the 636 weapon with embellishment with low uptime seems kinda meh...I could wait for Broodtwister tonight to get Mythic Legs for Catalyst and take the Wildhammer. What would be your advise here?
Raidbots was done in Dungeon Slice as Mountain Thane
tardy trench
its based on the "blue name" that you see right below the name
thank you
sinful glen
Really hate myself for only doing 1 mythic boss this week :(.
(both weapons are enchanted). Should I get polearm or go to raid first tonight and see ?
open coyote
Really hate myself for only doing 1 mythic boss this week :(.
(both weapons are ...
Just curious why would you not take the weapon?
sinful glen
Going mythic nerub tonight, and morsel-masher sims wayyy better
open coyote
Oh as in you wouldnt claim you vault
sinful glen
yeah until after raid
open coyote
Yeah I see makes sense
Why can fury even get 1h weapons? I got 2 myth trinkets and a myth 1h weapon from my vault
I was so excited when I saw a weapon as well xD
sinful glen
right? ;_;
covert blaze
Why can fury even get 1h weapons? I got 2 myth trinkets and a myth 1h weapon fro...
set your loot spec to arms
so you can only get 2h weapons as weapon drops
open coyote
omg your joking, ty for letting me know
covert blaze
it's 5 am
covert blaze
gm
flat river
How is thou zhai
covert blaze
simming shit
flat river
Im in Uni rn
covert blaze
recrafting for arms
covert blaze
both
flat river
I did that in season 2 of DF
flat river
Switched to arms for half of the season
covert blaze
i played some armge a couple of weeks ago
south kayak
yo
open coyote
Is Ara-Kara really that much better than Mark of Khardros? I thought I would really need the mastery, since ive only got 6.5k currently. Sims almost 2% better
sullen dove
…you’re using both mark and skarm?
Yea two on uses is kinda bad
And idk what you’re simming to give you 2.6m I’d assume dungeon slice or something
radiant plank
simming nothing
sullen dove
sullen dove
Whyzat nothing
but regardless yea you should not be using both mark and skarm
v annoying
open coyote
that is what I was told to use when simming when I asked here is that wrong now?
radiant plank
when are u fighting 5 targets for 5mins
sullen dove
cause second on use isn’t buffing much at all
covert blaze
@sullen dove
sullen dove
nowhere but it’s still indicative of average “consistent” aoe dps
ivory topaz
unless your an.... AM SLAYAAA!!
covert blaze
when are u fighting 5 targets for 5mins
primal council 
sullen dove
just like 1 target 5min is indicative of “supposedly” best single target dps even tho 95% of the fights in the raid have some aoe, don’t think it matters what you go with
radiant plank
primal council <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
4 target fight
sullen dove
primal council <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
Somehow the best council fight of that xpac
covert blaze
4 target fight
you're forgetting about the sturdy love fool the spriest put down to cheat
sullen dove
sanest spriest moment
open coyote
just like 1 target 5min is indicative of “supposedly” best single target dps eve...
Ill do that now, normally I sim both and see if there is a big diff from 1-5 targets
foggy pine
Guys I drop the sikran trinket on mythic what do you think about that item
sullen dove
Yea like they should show similar enough results gear wise just knowing which trinks might skew one way more than the other
sullen dove
Like 2 onuses probably looks a little better on aoe but still not worth doing in m+ or anything
open coyote
uhm do trinkets have a main and off hand like with the weapons? Or just the sim being weird
oblique trail
The trinket in the first slot is used first
open coyote
ah so just because its the two on use ones
oblique trail
Yes
sullen dove
Two onuse 10k better than an on use and sac is that what that is?
oblique trail
So in the top option it uses Mark first, then Shard afterwards
sullen dove
Did also say you have like 8k mastery so that’s prolly like the top prio to be rectified
Whether crafting something with mast even at 619 for example
open coyote
Two onuse 10k better than an on use and sac is that what that is?
yes but the one in the middle is both hero
Skarmorak is simmed at 639
Dw Sacbrood with Skarmorak was 8.3% or 1.061M so an actual upgrade, I just cut that bit out
sullen dove
O ok yea
proud furnace
do we have some stat cap i should pay attention? any suggestion?
south kayak
do we have some stat cap i should pay attention? any suggestion?
No we do not
just sim normally
the gear u have
open otter
Hey sirs!
I got a very confusing Vault...Lots of good stuff. Wildhammer/Setpiec...
any advice? ❤️
proud furnace
just sim normally
sim says not to touch anything but the top logged warriors are all using more crit than i do
sullen dove
Top logged warriors also prolly have like 3-4 more ilvl than you
But like an ansurek ring for example has a lot of crit
Can try to use droptimizer for raid and m+ see if any items are massive upgrades or anything
But at your ilvl would have to imagine it’d be like maybe ansurek ring and transmitter outta heroic cuz skyterror kinda blows and just whatever from mythic/vaults
oblique trail
sim says not to touch anything but the top logged warriors are all using more cr...
What top logging warriors got shouldn't concern you, because it's simply just what their sims told them is the best for them
proud furnace
But at your ilvl would have to imagine it’d be like maybe ansurek ring and trans...
transmitter HC sims lower than skyterror myth sadly...
oblique trail
I got very high end logs, but conversely very low crit, because I didn't have the Ansurek ring till today
sullen dove
I got very high end logs, but conversely very low crit, because I didn't have th...
Fed swine 639 every slot perish
sudden tusk
srowhsid
sullen dove
southerntiger
sudden tusk
bitter palm
utter woke nonsense
compact siren
proud furnace
Can try to use droptimizer for raid and m+ see if any items are massive upgrades...
yeah like the transmitter HC is a +5000 dps while the Mythic version is +12k, wich is still ridicously low.. I think gear wise there isnt much to be done, even being full 639 is just a +40k dps increase
gotta get good basically haha
south kayak
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cAgjNvEzqmrCZ1fiV2ytW5 thoughts on this fellas
should I pick this belt or get the leg tier
nvm my belt and cloak aren't fully upgraded so that skews things, let me resim
zinc wadi
Btw how do you get a higher parse? Scratching 50s at 614, but dmg and activity are great, am I just 2 stoopid 4 warrior, or do I make mistakes?
covert blaze
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cAgjNvEzqmrCZ1fiV2ytW5 thoughts on this f...
sim catalyzed belt
south kayak
yeah
south kayak
Because im a poor man
covert blaze
bro a socket is like 1k
covert blaze
im looking at it
south kayak
open coyote
Just curious is that simmed with raid buffs pots etc?
unkempt vector
Is there any target to hit for haste and mastery ? I’m at 33% mastery and 29% haste, as far as I know mastery still priority
open coyote
Just curious is that simmed with raid buffs pots etc?
I see it was all good
chrome plover
Btw how do you get a higher parse? Scratching 50s at 614, but dmg and activity a...
get more gear and dont make rotational mistakes
covert blaze
<:detective:912341312907378689>
i didnt do gear set stuff and i dont know how many crests you can get but you get the idea
inner shadow
what a useless fucking vault
:)))?
unreal onyx
Useless fucking vault
zinc wadi
get more gear and dont make rotational mistakes
Great advice thx will totally be helpful in the future to find culprits and such /s
chrome plover
that's the only way to answer "how get better parse" without seeing a log 🤷♂️
chrome plover
what more do u need when you dont mythic raid
im 637 and my vault had no upgrades in!!!!
south kayak
chawie also doesn't have 2h myth
radiant plank
Chawie still noob..
south kayak
real
polar roost
I am absolutely lost with current vault. Can someone lead me in the right direction what I should do next? I have a myth belt - but haste versa. Im thinking about crafting a neck or head but not sure https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n9z6eVtmvueutpE5N7RWsQ
river reef
we can compare logs if you'd like 🙂
flat river
south kayak
I need to farm a shitton of gilded and valorstones 
chrome plover
I am absolutely lost with current vault. Can someone lead me in the right direct...
i think i'd say upgrade and socket the myth belt with vault socket
none of your vault options are an upgrade, and it's the best belt you can get aside from one m+ belt from vault
brave girder
gentleman
chrome plover
then craft a neck
brave girder
should i precast treacherous transmitter before the pull and the blow my cds ?
chrome plover
or just wait til sikran neck
chrome plover
should i precast treacherous transmitter before the pull and the blow my cds ?
yea
i usually cast it at 5 or 6 seconds on pull timer and be ready to activate it as pull starts
brave girder
right until now i used it straight on pull
shit is awful
but saw giga critcake use is off pull and felt enlightened
chrome plover
yep
then it's up a few seconds before your cds and you can get it prepared for your cds coming up
brave girder
then when my cds are up then i pop everything all together
chrome plover
yep
gleaming siren
chat is Banezi behaving today
eternal sundial
Hosen havent been verified
gleaming siren
@oblique trail hosen verification
radiant plank
busted in hosen
clever belfry
hosen cringers
remote bobcat
yo lads how much haste do we want
narrow narwhal
I use transmitter as early in the pull timer as possible
Whatever your top gear sim tells you bud
remote bobcat
Whatever your top gear sim tells you bud
I care about boss fights in raids, meaning pure single target with occasional aoe bursts with lots of targets
sims cant rly gimme that can they
unreal onyx
A specific % haste cant really give you that either
oblique trail
There are no specific stat %'s you want to hit
chrome plover
actually sims can give you that
oblique trail
Simply just sim patchwerk 5 min 1 target
And use what it spits out
It's as simple as that
unreal onyx
Gänsehosen
clever belfry
It's as simple as that
simple as
clever belfry
<:balls:1286795983258386474>
hahn und ball??
oblique trail
& 
digital karma
guys, I have myth shoulders and circle of bone with leech. Currently have circle of bone heroic on myself. Simming chooses shoulders over ring, but leech seems so important, even though the ring is not considered bis?
what should I go for
digital karma
simming says shoulders 639 will do more, but leech...
warm crag
you won't really feel the leech anywhere other than ovinax
oak garden
if you get a big hit you have your healing strike avoidence ok but idc about leech ^^
digital karma
if you get a big hit you have your healing strike avoidence ok but idc about lee...
ok, shoulders then
tyvm for help! :3
oak garden
np
fervent yoke
if you get a big hit you have your healing strike avoidence ok but idc about lee...
Real chads don’t put that healing ability on their bars
inner zinc
At what amount of haste do we hit diminishing returns? Is that cap the same for all classes?
eternal sundial
❌🧢👉
iron portal
chrome plover
At what amount of haste do we hit diminishing returns? Is that cap the same for ...
it's like 30% or some shit but diminishing returns is NOT a cap, quite often it's worth going into diminishing returns as that stat is still better than the others
inner zinc
Ty
civic bobcat
guys, I searched the warcraft logs and saw that most have balanced the use of versa in kyveza. Is it really important? I can't filter to know if this is due to the log farm or if it's progression
eternal sundial
guys, I searched the warcraft logs and saw that most have balanced the use of ve...
Kyveza u just play highest simming talents and gear
No thinking abt vers as fury
You live by not playing shit
civic bobcat
that's why I was surprised
there are a considerable number of people who are using rings, enchants of versa
eternal sundial
there are a considerable number of people who are using rings, enchants of versa
If it sims best
Why not
halcyon birch
With sikran neck my best stats on crafted ring are Vers mastery
gleaming siren
This screenshot is a skill issue
On the level of using phone to take a screenshot on desktop
pseudo marlin
On the level of using phone to take a screenshot on desktop
im not on pc
bet u dont even know what buttons to press on a phone to do a screenshot
pseudo marlin
I love m+ quitters being banned
should auto deplete their best run
heavy dock
Real
heavy dock
bet u dont even know what buttons to press on a phone to do a screenshot
Ok but you can auto crop the photo in 3 seconds on a phone after a screenshot to focus on the relevant text 
trim hound
It's important that we get to see the ads and his battery %
rotund panther
I don't understand this quitting mindset, we had a grim batol +6 and tank decided to quit only because healer died two times during a boss fight but It didn't even impact the run (we killed the boss)
and it was like halfway through the dungeon
clever belfry
This screenshot is a skill issue
🪞
trim hound
I don't understand this quitting mindset, we had a grim batol +6 and tank decide...
Ya that's dumb as hell, especially in a +6.
Anecdotally, I've had a lot less leavers compared to Dragonflight S1/2. Only really happened a few times when the run was cursed and we wiped on the first pack of mobs 3 times or something 😄
near wing
Do we know if crafting will change at all in season 2? I haven’t seen any details on it- has anyone else?
trim hound
Do we know if crafting will change at all in season 2? I haven’t seen any detail...
I don't think so, there was some plans to tweak resourcefulness/multi-craft but I think it's getting delayed. Haven't seen anything else mentioned.
mental rune
No way of knowing until it actually hits the PTR
deft fossil
is sureki zealots insignia BIS or depends
warm crag
afaik its bis but the stonevault neck at mythic ilvl might be better/worse based on itemization
deft fossil
when i simm it does it proc at all or it sims it without the vers bonus?
warm crag
it should sim with the vers bonus
deft fossil
alrioght thanks
one more thing tho how do i simm what gems i should put when i can only select 12 to simm?
cuz i have so much mastery already that im guessing with demnishing returns its not worth to put even more mastery but i dont know what else
oblique trail
Just pick all gems that have mastery on it (not including the stamina gems) and sim those
If you don't have premium, just pick only mastery heavy gems
coarse nest
All of the mastery 😈
oblique trail
Unless your stat spread is very skewed, this will in the vast majority of cases be what you'd want
You could arguably remove the crit and vers heavy gems too and cut down on the iterations
warm crag
click the second checkbox or i will dm you
oblique trail
I'm happy with my 2% speed
deft fossil
oh i was always using the culminating bismuth is the other one btter?
warm crag
(the difference is minor and you can argue that the speed is better than the tiny tiny dps increase you get from the crit gem)
oblique trail
But it's so minor that I just use the movespeed gem
deft fossil
blocked
coarse nest
Only if you want the move speed
deft fossil
im using crit one
coarse nest
More likely than not stacking your preferred gem will win
oblique trail
I've personally not bothered ever all season, but technically you should
deft fossil
im not asking what you prefer but whats more dmg
coarse nest
Try simming both and compare
oblique trail
Ok sorry
warm crag
im not asking what you prefer but whats more dmg
ya this is a sim question
heavy dock
Sim both and see which is higher ig
sour frigate
im not asking what you prefer but whats more dmg
the 0.15% crit dmg is giga cope
coarse nest
Shit does like 2k dps
sour frigate
less
heavy dock
Esp on a class like ours who doesnt crit that much
radiant plank
coarse nest
Riiighhttt
warm crag
why
heavy dock
Cuz i dont like squishes
warm crag
reasonable
heavy dock
And they usually break old stuff
And every expac who did a squish so far has been bad think about it
Wod bfa shadowlands
summer quail
I fear of how hard the squish will be in midnight
as long as it's above shadowlands numbers. i do not want to go down to under 10k again
heavy dock
True
warm crag
idk squishes have never affected me negatively but i also dont interact with wow outside current season
heavy dock
Imagine you go into afterlife to beat some of the strongest lore characters so far and you do classic wow dps
summer quail
idk squishes have never affected me negatively but i also dont interact with wow...
i just like big numbers
heavy dock
Same
warm crag
big is relative
summer quail
ofc it is, but my brain is stupid and if sees like 1 billion hit or whatever it sends chemicals
heavy dock
Going from doing milion dps to 10k just feels bad
warm crag
everyone doing 1 mil dps and bursting aoe for 10 mil is getting a bit too much
warm crag
moving beyond the realm of numbers that are easily comprehendable so you just kinda round to the nearest 100k
summer quail
everyone doing 1 mil dps and bursting aoe for 10 mil is getting a bit too much
yea i can agree in a way there, it feels better do burst for 1mill when doing 100k for example. feels like the difference is bigger even tho it isn't
heavy dock
Best expacs had big numbers
warm crag
at least i had a much more solid grasp on how gear choices actually affect my damage in shadowlands when numbers were 5 digits not 7
chrome plover
cant wait for everyone to do integer limit dps
clever belfry
I'm happy with my 2% speed
walk faster better
oblique trail
walk faster better
I could get 6% more movespeed by losing 1k sim dps and like 10k gold
hard bargain
clever belfry
i think the sim dps is less impactful than the 10k
oblique trail
In todays economy it certainly is..
next season I will be down another 1 morbillion gold in the first 2 weeks
south kayak
summer quail
10 of every ench
i'm scared they will introduce a new enchant
oblique trail
Don't think they've ever done that after the first season
clever belfry
last xpac
?
wep ench was new same with patch no?
(u didnt use wep ench but nontheless)
oblique trail
I didn't play in s2
summer quail
then wait for ptr
tru. bigbrain
clever belfry
same with chest
oblique trail
Wep could be new because depths is raid
summer quail
yea they did in s2 df, it was garbage tho. new weapon enchant
clever belfry
twas okay in pure st
like ever so slightly useful
esp early if u had an eranog ring
oblique trail
Depths will prob have the same fate as the frost damage proc in s1 df
summer quail
maybe if you had an eranog ring yeah, for me it did not sim that high
oblique trail
Where it just became irrelevant compared to mainstat/secondary procs
south kayak
not looking forward to losing secondary stats next patch
slim pollen
Then don't un-equip your gear? 👀
south kayak
I'm talking about the isle ring
slim pollen
Can allways use the stat gems
iron portal
but you get more secondaries with higher ilvl of gear eventually too
dry halo
is AM slayer trolling on raid
modest condor
depends on your goals
dry halo
like heroic queen for example
modest condor
not trolling
dry halo
ok just wanna try it out lol
gentle terrace
you can do literally anything you want in heroic lmao
eternal sundial
is AM slayer trolling on raid
Mythic brood moment
dry halo
first 4 mythic maybe in another 2 months
rotund panther
He didn't 8/8 M in first week LMAO
honest karma
How’s the ‘vers proc when healed’ neck for fury? Got a mythic version in vault. So much haste…
Sureki thing
warm crag
probs pick it and never unequip it
honest karma
Can’t sim atm
chrome summit
What is it that make mountain thane better in mplus? Damage and survival or just survival? Is it big difference?
warm crag
hits harder in aoe and has really good survival talents in the hero talents ye
honest karma
Clap/LS does consistent good dmg compared to WW
chrome summit
Worth swap? It's hard play?
dry halo
What is it that make mountain thane better in mplus? Damage and survival or just...
you cant die
chrome summit
Kk will test this later see if I manage xD ty 🙂
past pivot
What is it that make mountain thane better in mplus? Damage and survival or just...
At lower keys, Slayer and Thane are very close DPS-wise. Thane is more tanky. At higher keys, Thane is the better dps choice as well.
dry halo
thane is a huge crutch going to 10s at the start highly recommend
ember apex
friends, what's the word on the street about those M+ bans? poz? neg? mid?
ancient quiver
I havnt met a banned person yet it's all blizzard propiganda
ember apex
same
ancient quiver
mighty thicket
One question there is a cap in mastery?¿'¡
modest condor
no
modest condor
‽
ember apex
¿
mental tangle
is there any reason for my bloodbath to get parried so much besides RNG?
ember apex
‽
i didnt know that info
now im gonna use it and when anyone says anything im gonna play it off like everyone knows about it
"wym u dont know about interrobang"
summer quail
is there any reason for my bloodbath to get parried so much besides RNG?
just rng
mighty thicket
so just take all Mastery and then haste that you can
past pivot
Sim your toon
summer quail
so just take all Mastery and then haste that you can
that's fine til you actually get some gear
clever belfry
-10 trees
radiant falcon
Is HoJ worth it?
radiant falcon
cool thanks
coarse nest
at least i had a much more solid grasp on how gear choices actually affect my da...
5 digit dps is peak id be happy keeping that every season
narrow narwhal
at least i had a much more solid grasp on how gear choices actually affect my da...
I've been paying attention to % increases on the sims rather than the raw number value
smoky vale
cant wait for everyone to do integer limit dps
that would go crazy
we would move onto longs soon
any long enjoyers
eternal sundial
idk squishes have never affected me negatively but i also dont interact with wow...
I remember sl going from like 8k sims to ending on 40
And then df starts at like 100k deadge
Sure sl didnt start with tier n shit
chilly fractal
Imagine if next tier… our set is awesome
feral ivy
just did a 10 AK with rogue dps 2878i.o, healer 2781 i.o and tank 2789 i.o and 1 dps who they were friends with 2368i.o..... tank pulls slow like 1 mob at a time and then out of no where pulls a shit load that wiped us. then last boss rogue and healer kept dying to something.. its crazy day to do keys
btw we didnt time the key
narrow narwhal
Go again
near wing
Honestly, keys are in really bad spot right now for pugging. Like materially worse than the first month of the season
Pretty hard to get into a pug 12, and 10s are filled with people who were carried and out geared the content
It’s made me lose a fair amount of interest in playing. Which I know is a me problem, I just wasn’t expecting this (new to retail wow so this is my first season)
modest condor
10s are basically 49% groups with people who got hard carried, 49% groups with people who are way overqualified and only there for vault, and 2% people who genuinely need +10s
did a +10 NW last week with 4 people 2.9k+ and a 2.5k tank, was the cleanest and quickest weekly no leaver route i've ever done
whole yacht
True
near wing
Yea, and it’s a gamble. Like you can carry one person. But carrying two people becomes difficult, and the tank can’t really be a carry
modest condor
if the group is good enough they can make it work with a bad tank
smoky vale
you are missing the alts of the 49% who are overqualified for the 10s on rats
modest condor
in that NW the tank died twice before i even died my first time
smoky vale
out performing the people who are hard carried by ilvl
median dust
Shamans are basically the new balance druid. They always die, never really kick, and are good dps for like 2-3 pulls a dungeon.
summer quail
not been my experience at all. shamans are usually decent
narrow narwhal
FOTM re-rollers
median dust
idk. I run mostly 14+ now. My experience is their IO is inflated and they are imposters.
wispy dock
I had a 2800IO fury warrior in my NW fuck up the hook 3x
summer quail
that's what you get for inviting a fury warrior. only idiots main fury
narrow narwhal
^
south kayak
HOLY
signal creek
shard vs TT a 639 shard sims less than a 626 TT, do people just run a shard for easy of use?
summer quail
nahh, transmitter owns
coarse nest
Transmitter is the best burst option
narrow narwhal
Transmitter is ez to use
Goes to your front right and there's a WA that tells you what task it is
Plus you can pop it early on the pull timer. Helps it align better later on.
On kyveza I'm able to get all CDs rolling just before p2 starts
signal creek
yeah i play with TT but only good vault option was a mythic track shard. was just wondering why somepeople seem to run it over TT
trim hound
639 shard sims better than 626 transmitter for me (I also don't have a transmitter) so I'm content
signal creek
must come down to stat weights then maybe ? 639 shard is 8k st less and 18k aoe less than TT for me
summer quail
yeah i play with TT but only good vault option was a mythic track shard. was jus...
they prob don't have transmitter
frank rover
638 ilvl declined from +10's
narrow narwhal
Someone 640 applied
wispy dock
Hey I identify as an idiot fury warrior but prot keys for easy invites when I’m doing vault
lapis hearth
someone here that can help me out with my vault.... >.< dunno what to pick
fickle cedar
send it
lapis hearth
Sukeri's necklace 626 with socket, but maxed 6/6 hero (i have a sukeri 8/8 619)
or
Epaulets 1/6 myth 623 (i got 626 6/6 hero tier)
restive peak
Did you clear heroic yet this week
fickle cedar
Sukeri's necklace 626 with socket, but maxed 6/6 hero (i have a sukeri 8/8 619)
...
Sim but you're probably gonna get that 639 shoulders > sureki 626
restive peak
If not go see if you get neck 1st, but likely the 639 shouldies esp if you don't mythic raid
If you do, 1st and 4th boss drop shoulders
lapis hearth
If not go see if you get neck 1st, but likely the 639 shouldies esp if you don't...
im not good enough for myth raid haha
fickle cedar
I'd say go with shoulders then and fully upgrade them to 639, catalyst if thats your tier piece (probably yes)
summer quail
im not good enough for myth raid haha
you would be surprised at how carried you can get if making your own group
lapis hearth
Did you clear heroic yet this week
just logged on first time this week so not yet
lapis hearth
you would be surprised at how carried you can get if making your own group
true true, but i have 00 experience leasding a raid, also only cleared heroic like 8 times now
restive peak
just logged on first time this week so not yet
Def do heroic 1st, but likely you want the mythic piece then
Heroic piece can drop or be vaulted weekly, you're at the mercy of RNG for the other slots
restive peak
He's silky smooth dawg
whole yacht
maaaaan
in my mythic sikran rekill last night, i got every mechanic known to man i stg
open prairie
People out for holiday
clever belfry
am*rican issue?
open prairie
Not bad kills overall, getting first charge is always cursed though
open prairie
unless you’re a bm hunter
summer quail
People out for holiday
yea no thanksgiving here ya know
whole yacht
lucky
chrome summit
how do you play mountain thane? u replace ww with thunder blast?
whole yacht
yeah. dont use ww
chrome summit
i see i see. it have prio over everything then basically?
whole yacht
no. its important, but not over everythign else
ramp, cb, bb are still more important but youll still use tb/tc to maintain aoe. (im sure im missing something, but im also not flly awake)
chrome summit
cb?
chrome summit
kk 😛
chrome summit
kk 🙂 i just need up my mastery i guess also, im at 21 %. been maining tonk
thorny thorn
Anyone had this bug https://streamable.com/6vh3sp?
eternal sundial
Anyone had this bug https://streamable.com/6vh3sp?
@chrome plover xdd
full thicket
yo guys what sim option yall suggest to sim Dusk/dawnthead lining for m+ , cuz i keep simming ascension + writhing coming on top
radiant plank
warm crag
Anyone had this bug https://streamable.com/6vh3sp?
lmao rolled
summer quail
yo guys what sim option yall suggest to sim Dusk/dawnthead lining for m+ , cuz i...
ofc ascension will come out on top for sims. sims will think it has permauptime, which is just not the case in m+
hollow elk
Thought there was an option to put uptime to reasonable times
Like 50%
Or less / more depending on how much you eat swirlies
summer quail
for dusk/dawnthread yes. but not for ascension
ascension will drop at points in mythic+. guaranteed
sinful glen
Take the coins?
hollow elk
Mad queen is great for tanking :3
fickle bluff
100%
summer quail
how much haste is too much haste?
however much haste the sim tells you is too much
acoustic yoke
cause i'm already natty at 30% haste on ovi'nax so wondering if PE or FE would be better
running FE but i'm at like 70% aste
inner shadow
went to do mythic
sikran people dying at p1
rl gettin mad as to why i heroic leap instead of walk because it "makes people panic"
acoustic yoke
tbf it depends on when ur leaping
acoustic yoke
ah
acoustic yoke
yeah see people don't expect the leap
acoustic yoke
if it was at the beginning i get it
acoustic yoke
but if it's close to the end
inner shadow
why?
oblique trail
Because there's no reason to greed uptime
acoustic yoke
cause it can throw people off
oblique trail
Just play the mechanic safe
inner shadow
i leap 3 secodnds before
whole yacht
Legit throwing.
inner shadow
its the same as walking
oblique trail
It's the only thing that wipes you on that boss
inner shadow
i will be there at 3 seconds left
ik but we arent wiping on thast
that's the point
oblique trail
And my point is just play the only dangerous mechanic in the fight, safely
By simply walking out the moment you get charge assigned
👍
zenith karma
Is anyone using add spawn timers during raid bosses to optimize max damage?
oblique trail
And take the L
acoustic yoke
Is anyone using add spawn timers during raid bosses to optimize max damage?
no
but what fight do you mean anyway?
whole yacht
I am on benezi's side. There's zero reason to greed uptime. You're just well, being greedy for parse
oblique trail
Is anyone using add spawn timers during raid bosses to optimize max damage?
This is just a given for Fury on basically all fights this tier
inner shadow
I am on benezi's side. There's zero reason to greed uptime. You're just well, be...
i leap cuz monkeys keep panicking when they're positioning
so i let them have their panic attacks
then i jump
wait i show u clip
whole yacht
Leap first. Take your position. They will position around you
zenith karma
but what fight do you mean anyway?
queen and eggs
acoustic yoke
monkeys will panic even harder if you just leap up in their face
whole yacht
^
oblique trail
Zen you said you're trialing or w/e earlier
I'll just say now for your own sake
Learn to play mechanics safely
Especially while trialing
inner shadow
oh i am
im just saying
they complained about that
whilst everyone is dying on p1
whole yacht
You're not though. You're doing something RL is actively complaining about
oblique trail
Right, then change it because it's a reasonable thing to bring up by them
inner shadow
to whatever the fuck
whole yacht
Not a good way to make the team
acoustic yoke
how do you sim for ovinax?
oblique trail
There's no point in trying to sim Ovinax specifically
acoustic yoke
hectic add?
inner shadow
You're not though. You're doing something RL is actively complaining about
it isn't my first time doing mythic. i been doing hardcore since legion times, not some half social half mythic pug raid is gonna be gettin' on me
if he can;t' see the hypocrisy and bullshit
then it ain't for me
whole yacht
I just see what's best for ovi in real time. Changing trinkets after a wipe to see if dmg goes up or down
oblique trail
Run AM, 1 or 2x on-use, and use CDs around egg timers, and otherwise use what's sims the best in a patchwerk setting
whole yacht
it isn't my first time doing mythic. i been doing hardcore since legion times, n...
That literally means nothing
inner shadow
oblique trail
2x on-use is technically the best for add damage, but realistically doesn't matter much
inner shadow
Zen finds empty spot, zen leaps into spot, succesfully done
acoustic yoke
Run AM, 1 or 2x on-use, and use CDs around egg timers, and otherwise use what's ...
it's more for PE vs FE
i got 30% haste natty
whole yacht
You could be 8/8 mythic right now. And doing something the RL says not to, is still a good way to find yourself benched
acoustic yoke
so like i don't know if any more haste is benefiting me
fallow minnow
anyone got a weakaura that says to go through the boss or next 2 positions on kyveza?
for cuts
oblique trail
it's more for PE vs FE
Frankly doesn't matter much
smoky vale
anyone got a weakaura that says to go through the boss or next 2 positions on ky...
its every other?
inner shadow
You could be 8/8 mythic right now. And doing something the RL says not to, is st...
there's a reason why i trial
it isn't just for them
oblique trail
I've tried both FE and PE on Ovinax, and I've yet to really notice much of a difference
sour frigate
Zen finds empty spot, zen leaps into spot, succesfully done
keks im not even moving from boss
inner shadow
it's also for me
if they're gonna focus on fuckin random bs
rather than actual wiping issues
fallow minnow
its every other?
people confuse first and 2nd set on mythic
oblique trail
FE just makes it 100% consistent to always have reck for first adds and every subsequent
whole yacht
You trial because no team will keep you. Because you do what you want.
inner shadow
it ain't for me. simple
fallow minnow
quick wa for fixing it
whole yacht
Just saying
smoky vale
people confuse first and 2nd set on mythic
inner shadow
You trial because no team will keep you. Because you do what you want.
I do what I must do
if I cause a wipe. sure bench me
if I don't. stfu
smoky vale
idk how to make a weakaura that goes 1 2 1 2 1 2
inner shadow
simple
whole yacht
It's like talking to a brick wall
oblique trail
That is a horrible mentality
smoky vale
you just realized?
acoustic yoke
I've tried both FE and PE on Ovinax, and I've yet to really notice much of a dif...
fair. i'll give it try then
inner shadow
It's like talking to a brick wall
I get your point, but I am not gonna sit and take 1000 bullshit craps
regarding a fight
which is 99.9% caused by two moronbs
overlapping dashes
whole yacht
So here's the thing.
inner shadow
oh also
i did that leap thing
for 3 times
yet they kept it going
for like whole session
as if it was my fault all along
"oh but warrior leaps on me" no monkey i can see where im leaping,
whole yacht
If you do the mechanic the way the raid lead says to. Even if you disagree. It will go a bit smoother. And you'll be liked more
😄
whole yacht
You are the definition of warrior brain. I stg
acoustic yoke
i was once told to hold my bs to break webs on Ul'grax
i did it even though i knew it was cooked
i get to be the only AOE on rash now
sacrificess
whole yacht
That's WILD.
inner shadow
this is the type of panic they be goin on
whole yacht
That looks like players learning the fight.
inner shadow
that's 25th pull
oblique trail
You really should never go in front of the boss when he does the charge like that
inner shadow
idk hgow much you gon learn of the fight though
inner shadow
right so let's shun the only guy doing shit like it's done, even though the method is different
makes sense
whole yacht
You're doing something the raid lead tells you not to do. And trying to defend yourself here like you're not in the wrong.
It's not your raid team. You listen to the lead
inner shadow
give me a probable cause to why it's wrong and I am listening
whole yacht
If you have an issue with it. Bring it up after raid
inner shadow
oh i am dw
whole yacht
It's wrong because it makes others nervous
whole yacht
Making the fight more difficult than need be
inner shadow
at start of fight
oblique trail
give me a probable cause to why it's wrong and I am listening
The earlier you move out, the more time you give the rest to adjust around you 👍
inner shadow
i will be heroic leaping into spot in order to avoid more panic since many kjeep running
whole yacht
^
smoky vale
no i prefer to not do the mechanic
whole yacht
Saying you're going to do it. Doesn't make it the right decision.
smoky vale
(serious)
whole yacht
I am not. And will not. Take your side on this. Until you run the raid. Do what you're asked to do.
inner shadow
no i prefer to not do the mechanic
pls stop talking out your ass, i am doing the mechanic just fine. just different methdo tf
willow cradle
this is the type of panic they be goin on
Why are you moving towards the dash? Good way to spawn more stuff right there.
inner shadow
Why are you moving towards the dash? Good way to spawn more stuff right there.
i fat fingered my right click
i wanted to turn camera
and i walked diagonal
smoky vale
me ignoring mechanic 🙂
willow cradle
That's not mouse movement though, it's keyboard movement.
honest karma
The earlier you move out, the more time you give the rest to adjust around you �...
Very much this
clever belfry
@oblique trail
willow cradle
You can tell by the way your character is oriented
modest condor
my guy really out here failing trials because his ego is too big
oblique trail
@clever belfry
clever belfry
<@173741974493462528>
hai :3
whole yacht
my guy really out here failing trials because his ego is too big
On GOD
sudden tusk
sudden tusk
:3
willow cradle
Seems like you just prio DPS uptime over avoiding mechanical mistakes
honest karma
And two sec of extra warrior uptime is not needed on that boss at all. Top kek
inner shadow
Seems like you just prio DPS uptime over avoiding mechanical mistakes
nope
not even that
whole yacht
Kekepops spittin facts
whole yacht
You gotta stop calling people monkeys when you can't even listen to your raid leader.
honest karma
But they get confused when a monkey suddenly jumps in guns blazing
lucid thorn
you're just missing an r arent you
lucid thorn
i was making a joke
fury missing an r
":3"
it's not funny if you have to explain the joke
inner shadow
You gotta stop calling people monkeys when you can't even listen to your raid le...
i stopped doing it, but they got frustrated wiping too many times
they waited til last about last pull
someone fucked up
they insta jumped on me saying oh it's 10 times you leap n shit
i was like bro im not taking this crap
lucid thorn
or maybe i'm just not funny, it's entirely possible. anyway.
inner shadow
lucid thorn
now that's funny
willow cradle
Well they killed without you
inner shadow
i have highlights on
willow cradle
So something went right
inner shadow
nah we were on 300mil last pull before i left so
they did like 12 pulls after
12 pulls for 300m btw
also this isn't my only account, this on an alt
willow cradle
They still killed without you
willow cradle
Maybe those monkeys aren't really the problem
inner shadow
tinger
i can show you every clip of every dash i did / circle i did
point out where i did the mistake, and i give you gold per each aight?
oblique trail
You are so incredibly stunlocked
whole yacht
This guy's ego is wild
honest karma
I get deja vu. Weren’t you in the middle of another argument some time back too
modest condor
ive seen the clips you post, most of the time you dont even know what happens in them, i dont trust you to know what's causing wipes in your raid
inner shadow
ok silma hold on
whole yacht
it is that i don't take things easily
So... ego. You had an incident in a video game and came in here complaining. Expecting us to take your side and have been on the defensive ever since
inner shadow
nope
whole yacht
😂😂
summer quail
whole yacht
Then why are you still talking
inner shadow
cuz others are making assumption/ points and i am giving a counter argument
honest karma
The zen name is very ironic
inner shadow
i mean thast's how discussions work na?
i am super chill
i just don't go down easily
warm crag
zen i think you are fundamentally incompatible with group play
whole yacht
The "discussion" has gone in a circle 4 times
whole yacht
i am i know that well
That's sad.
inner shadow
That's sad.
to the group, the current group
if i adapt to them but they can't adapt to me
willow cradle
point out where i did the mistake, and i give you gold per each aight?
We could, it doesn't change that they killed it after they sat you, if anything what you should get out of it is that maybe just maybe your play could have been directly or indirectly harmful.
Stop thinking "they did something wrong" start thinking"what can I do to improve it"
lean zealot
can anyone recommend me crafting order for 2 gilded crests? I'm thinking about upgrading OH to 636 with 1 and crafting bracers or ring with the other crest. leaning wrists for embellishment but ring would be bigger ilvl D:
inner shadow
We could, it doesn't change that they killed it after they sat you, if anything...
Tinger I do understand i am very far from good right
but the raidleader coming at me for using heroic leaps
honest karma
Now i remember!! Wasn’t it you who got into a big thing about swirlies on amarth? Or am i wrong
inner shadow
Now i remember!! Wasn’t it you who got into a big thing about swirlies on amarth...
what boss is amarth?
no it wasn't a swirly, it was add was still alive adn the explosion wiped us
and i was like tf happened
honest karma
Hahahaha
modest condor
can anyone recommend me crafting order for 2 gilded crests? I'm thinking about u...
assuming you dont have a 2nd embellishment yet that would be a bigger upgrade than the extra ilvl from ring
inner shadow
and i thought a weakaura bar meant something
lean zealot
@modest condor thats what i was thinking. simming a weap upgrade says 1.5% upgrade too so i was thinking about maybe holding off there and adding ring + 2nd embellishment on the wrists. then pray for 2h off ulgrax or GB
modest condor
if sparks are not a concern then you can craft the offhand first, but that does take 2 sparks so it's something to keep in mind
lean zealot
ye ive already got it crafted so it would just recraft to 636
willow cradle
Tinger I do understand i am very far from good right
You misunderstand, I don't mean it as a blunt git gud, that's pointless advice. What I mean is that if others are fucking up think about if you can do anything to help prevent those mistakes.
I think you mentioned (or someone else did) that leaping caused panic for the other raiders, if that's the case not leaping would mitigate the chances of fuck ups.
modest condor
probably 2nd embellishment and offhand then
inner shadow
You misunderstand, I don't mean it as a blunt git gud, that's pointless advice. ...
i repeat tinger, my frustration, if we can call it that, is over the fact i leaped 3 times
and out of 15 tries, raidleader comes at me saying i am the cause of wipes and trolled 3/4 pulls..
when every time we did my marks, nobody died
lean zealot
ty !
inner shadow
i try to adapt to people all the time, but if they cannot adapt to me sometimes it can get frustrating, especially over something which is not fundamentally wrong
it is just, unusual
honest karma
I got a 639 Sureki Insignia in vault today. How often does it proc? Is it worth taking even if it sims a bit lower stat wise? The vers is very nice. Haven’t been able to sim it yet
radiant plank
I got a 639 Sureki Insignia in vault today. How often does it proc? Is it worth ...
50% uptime or so but its not a big buff, its your bis neck
summer quail
I got a 639 Sureki Insignia in vault today. How often does it proc? Is it worth ...
wdym sim lower stat wise? if it sims higher damagewise it's worth to take, simple as that
inner shadow
tinger what are you typing bruv
willow cradle
i repeat tinger, my frustration, if we can call it that, is over the fact i leap...
I can understand this, if anything I'd just take it as a hint that you are not a fit for the guild.
If you learned anything from the discourse in here find another guild to trial in and listen to the raid lead until a rapport of trust is established then you can explain why you want to do things a certain way.
inner shadow
I did come to that conclusion early, as to why I left them. First time raiding with them, same persons dying to the same thing after 25 tries, goes on to unleash his frustration on me ? fuck no
i don't sweat it, i really don't mind, its just funny
fickle bluff
is that heroic 😬
inner shadow
nope
modest condor
lfr
south kayak
It’s normal
radiant plank
what do i do with this irrelevant ss
inner shadow
no normal i got 0 log
radiant plank
doesnt show tier, difficulty, spec, ilvl
whole yacht
^
warm crag
noob logs
inner shadow
normal logs
whole yacht
bros got a 99 parse from 2 months ago tryna play it off
inner shadow
at 595 ilvl
inner shadow
bros got a 99 parse from 2 months ago tryna play it off
no actually just 1
guild went into hibernation
whole yacht
show the screenshot
oblique trail
inner shadow
nuh-uh
inner shadow
good nice
whole yacht
refusing to show a more detailed screenshot is wild.
past pivot
It's telling without telling
whole yacht
😂
modest condor
whole yacht
couldnt care less? wild considering you posted one hiding 99% of the info in the first place.
mossy fox
wtf gamer
inner shadow
damn they got an extra boss on that bitch
whole yacht
http://puu.sh/KjsXw/ca46bd4fbf.png
giga chad
radiant plank
assume whatever you want i couldn't care less
inner shadow
i genuinely think to myself
have people not yet got the point how much i love to fujck aroujnd in this discord
honest karma
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/254170190621835264/1113105101675036732/...
My inspiration, my muse
whole yacht
we know
inner shadow
it's a skateboarder's wet dream
spare steppe
Wait I missed drama?? Booo
radiant plank
plays like shit as trial
gets benched
come to discord for validation
get flamed in discord for massive ego
"iTs joKe guyus XD"
inner shadow
nah walhe
nt]
nt though
if you been here long neough, you'd know i do this shit all the time
frozen mirage
Give him a break. One day he's all grown up and in zen mode
inner shadow
Give him a break. One day he's all grown up and in zen mode
growing up was a mistake, im leading bothj life and company to failure
summer quail
if you been here long neough, you'd know i do this shit all the time
mans been here like 2 months
honest karma
I need to stop coming here when i’m supposed to sleep.
summer quail
yuh, unless you got kicked or made a new account
whole yacht
lmao
inner shadow
for the most insane reason you can imagine
frozen mirage
Imagine people who wants to follow fury warr discussion and all they read is zen
inner shadow
can't type on there 
hardy bluff
keep trying
inner shadow
but it isn't as active 
warm crag
wtf?
modest condor
what the wtf
fickle bluff
wtf t wtf
warm crag
what the fuck is that website
tranquil shuttle
Guys can some1 help me with ovinax Egg?
I am fully stacked now with Gear (638), but only have Transmitter NHC
Egg sims slightly better than the nhc Transmitter
I never played it, how do i use it as a Fury?
past pivot
Fully stacked gear with normal Transmitter. hmmm. Nothign better than egg? Being fully stacked and all?
AKA what else do you have?
tranquil shuttle
i have Sacbrood Myth Track, Shard/Mandate/Khardros HC Track
and obv the Egg Myth Tracl
past pivot
From what everyone says, Egg is difficult to min/max. Might consider Shard or Mark.
tranquil shuttle
k
covert blaze
if you been here long neough, you'd know i do this shit all the time
what do you mean by this
humiliate yourself or
smoky vale
