fury

[dry light]

Hey, I have a question about stats. It seems like haste/mastery or maybe sometimes vers/mastery is generally recommended, but crit/mastery seems to sim well for me, in dungeon slice, patchwerk 1 target and patchwerk 5 targets. Is that sim bait or a reasonable choice?
Slice: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ub8kQqBgJ2cEY5tzPJj1ie
Patchwerk 1: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pJLAvmrJetFZqx4dcxSS1f
Patchwerk 5: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kZRr3ws2W1UC8vsZeUxaQU

[modest condor]

all stats are useful

some are just more useful than others

but that doesnt mean you should stack 50k haste and mastery and completely ignore crit

[dry light]

Just checking, because I am at 18% crit already, which is at or above what the top fury warriors seem to run in M+

So getting a bunch more crit seems weird, though the sims seem to like it

[modest condor]

sometimes it be like that

[left perch]

French actually

[modest condor]

french who pretends to be canadian

[covert blaze]

he's french

[whole yacht]

french canadian

[jaunty ridge]

I'm kinda blasting

[whole yacht]

photoshop

seriously tho. nice job.

[jaunty ridge]

[tight dock]

holy damage

[whole yacht]

what key level was it

[jaunty ridge]

13 mists

[whole yacht]

mists is fun

[jaunty ridge]

Gearing my warr, just hit 631 this week

[whole yacht]

nice nice

what do you normally play?

[jaunty ridge]

Ele shaman

[astral path]

AM slayer is so back

am slayer my beloved

[modest condor]

with an aug

[whole yacht]

hows he get 99 overall but 98 for ilvl. hows that work

[modest condor]

the other people at his ilvl range did better

[covert blaze]

cause there are better 99s at his iIvl range yeah

[jaunty ridge]

aug owns

[whole yacht]

so they got what? 100's? or just better 99's?

[modest condor]

if you are 2/10000 overall but 2/2 for people with ilvl 634 then you're gonna be 99 overall but 0 for ilvl

[covert blaze]

better 99s

don't look at ilvl parses in general

useless

[astral path]

true

but AM slayer is so noice in m+ and raid with double on use

trying it on princess now

surely it pumps

[feral ivy]

which is easier+faster pugging +++10 or ++11 or +12?

[covert blaze]

what

[feral ivy]

i need 13 keys but i wonder if easier to +++ a 10 or +12

[modest condor]

i'd say they're pretty similar

[covert blaze]

pretty sure a 10 is easier than a 12

[modest condor]

just do a +10 and invite a couple of 3k people trying to fill their vault

[feral ivy]

thats what ive been doing but no one over 2700 i.o applying today. guess everyons going out of town for the holiday

[final birch]

call it 10

send 11

2chest

get 13

profit

2chesting 11 can do any group, just need to not chainwipe

[slim coral]

[opal sapphire]

played it a bit but doing 13-14s now im thaneing all the way

am slayer is a vibe tho

bladestorm every pack havin a blast

[red berry]

tbh idk if you game slayer well enough you have it up consistently anyway

i feel like AM slayer

idk

[opal sapphire]

its definitely doable

but thane is just a bit more consistent and tankier

and with noxivs build ST is also hella good

[opal sapphire]

i just did a key with the most boosted scum i ever played with

3k fkn score

all boosted keys

we do 2nd big pull on dawnbreaker

my guy, enh shaman, doesnt have his lust bound

i spam chat with lust

no reaction

https://tenor.com/view/rage-inside-out-angry-anger-gif-13573885

[winter shoal]

Never 4get my 100.0 average ilvl parse on my alt rogue in s3 (I didn't know what my buttons did)

[brittle crow]

what server

[feral ivy]

On my shammy I don’t have lust bound that’s the worst thing to accidentally hit.. I click on it lol

Happened to me once I thought no one noticed it was me till i saw in chat (my name) has lusted 😦

[opal sapphire]

Twistingnether

[opal sapphire]

Idc if its bound or not, my guy didnt press it at all xd

Its just a saying

[vague copper]

I do the same, no fatfingering lust here :P.. If it will be bound one day it will be like CTRL+Shift+ Tab (don even know if you can)+ P.. And the toiletseat must be down ells it wont work.

[summer quail]

just bind it to something you cannot misclick, like f1 or something

[flat river]

I bound it to ctrl+E on my mage

And i still click it with mouse xD

[pearl sequoia]

i be clicking shout every time

[coral swift]

is it just me or people don't care about your io anymore? i can't get invited to 12s now? what?

do people only care about class color now?

[humble plover]

now?

[coral swift]

i mean before it was rough getting invited but yeah i got invites

now it's just nothing

[chrome plover]

I used to have rampage on 5 and taunt on shift-5 with all my cds on shift modifiers

and that lasted way longer than I’ll admit

[covert blaze]

the only things I click are lust and taunt as dps

[flat river]

Mine are lust, class raid buff, and taunt

And sometimes my defensives if im panicking

[summer quail]

clicking when panicking sounds like the opposite of what you want to do

[eternal sundial]

panic in general shouldnt occur

outside of pvp

[flat river]

I panik

[covert blaze]

what

[bitter palm]

am thane

talents

for st

and aoe

i guess its the same

xd

[flat river]

I said what i said

[crude gate]

you can get invited to keys as a warrior if you are 200 io above everyone else applying

or you can re roll meta

[sour frigate]

Looks like yes

[random raptor]

anyone have thoughts on using Stonebound Artistry > Radiant Power for M+ if it sims higher?

[sour frigate]

yes i have it

and the diff is minor

[glad coyote]

finally got my sv 12 timed

[south kayak]

gz

[sour frigate]

Gamer 💪

[main halo]

Does someone have a weakaura that shows you how many enemies are in your range?

[eternal sundial]

Or just use ur eyes

Cuz for you the relevant amount of enemies is 2 and then 5

Which is countable

[rocky wharf]

Lol

[toxic prism]

Do you macro avatar and reck together?

[summer quail]

some do, others do not. i have a macro but also a separate keybind

[south kayak]

same

this week's affix

syucks

prob the worst one

[summer quail]

is it the emissary? if not then it's not the worst one

[south kayak]

oblivion

[last sparrow]

yeah this ones awful

specially on some bosses

[summer quail]

ye idk which one that is, idk the names ahahah. cc orbs,pickup orbs,healer affix or emmisary

[last sparrow]

the pickup orbs

[south kayak]

pick up orbs

[last sparrow]

doing the 3rd boss on siege and they spawn as hes spawning the waves

[south kayak]

orbs on the fucking SV boss

is just stupid

[floral belfry]

Is Hectic Add Cleave an appropriate sim for Ovinax mythics, what do you guys reckon?

[summer quail]

already done my keys this week, when i was incredibly sleep deprived. the affix did not exist to me

[south kayak]

already?

im actually tired of doing 8 keys

a week

[summer quail]

oh i don't do 8, i just do enough for me to upgrade whatever piece i need

so like if i need 30 crests i do 2-3 keys(depending if i can convert or not)

[eternal sundial]

Sim St and use brain for trinkets

[summer quail]

feels so good being done with keys til next season

[south kayak]

soyou don't care abut vault?

[summer quail]

nahh only upgrade left is grim batol ring and that's a very small drop chance. plus the new ring is coming out next month so it's whatever

[south kayak]

true

I'm getting to the point where im only doing 4 10 keys

on my main

[heavy dock]

im barely touching the game atp

[south kayak]

holy shit

what's with the amount of tanks pulling 2 big packs at start of mists???

bitch you're not in mdi

play normally

2 runs depleted because the tank fancies himself some mdi tank

[modest condor]

yeah we tried that once early in the season and gave up pretty quickly lol

2 villagers and 3 casters is not something you want to do in a push key

[south kayak]

it's very obvious

2 people literally get rooted

you're left with 3 players

[hardy bluff]

yea you only pull that if you can kill them before that cast

[south kayak]

that's impossible

they cast it very fast

like within 10 seconds

[chrome plover]

lots of classes can avoid

shaman can windrush it off teammates too

[modest condor]

yeah there are like 20 different ways to not get stunned

[south kayak]

wait you can?

Why did I not know this

why windrush

it only increases your movement speed

[golden hare]

jet streams

maybe singular and not plural

[south kayak]

btw im wondering, who exactly does Battle Shout buff

can it buff enha?

[glad coyote]

what key level it depends on a 10 yeah why not its easy and if its a 12+ than no way

[south kayak]

or ret

[hardy bluff]

every class that does auto attack damage basically

[south kayak]

And that affects all their abilities?

BS

[hardy bluff]

every ability that scales off attackpower

[south kayak]

does Tempest scale off attack power

[hardy bluff]

probably spell power

[south kayak]

it's spellpower nvm

so no

[tepid beacon]

guys quick q with interrupts, I'm finding on M+ the only reliable interrupt I have is pummel, some mobs aren't interrupted dby shockwave or storm bolt, do you guys just save your pummels for when you really need it? lot of spells need to be kicked

[summer quail]

is it spellpower for enhance? that seems a bit weird

[south kayak]

yeah they're not

[hardy bluff]

it is

[south kayak]

those other abilities only stop their cast

but they do not interrupt them

[south kayak]

Just checked wowhead yeah

[tepid beacon]

ah ty

[south kayak]

stormstrike gets buffed by AP

Lava Lash too

[hardy bluff]

yea some things do some dont

judgement is spellpower

crusader strike is attackpower

[south kayak]

That doesn't make any sense

but whatever lol

[hardy bluff]

its spell vs attack

[south kayak]

I guess it does

judgement is a spell

crusader strike is a strike

What animation is this

quizz

[willow cradle]

Fairly certain that's rampage

Just looks weird cause of the angle

[rotund ginkgo]

finally back from germany

:3

https://tenor.com/view/haii-hai-cat-cat-face-colon-three-gif-7065253899130675783

[south kayak]

hi

[rotund ginkgo]

opened vault

639 shard :3

[south kayak]

nice

gz

[visual dagger]

+10 Mists... why am i so garbage?

[unreal onyx]

skill issue

or low ilvl

[visual dagger]

playing this build atm:

a little more ST focused

[unreal onyx]

no of?

[visual dagger]

nope

[unreal onyx]

I mean, if you go for ST then I would expect you to not be top overall

[whole yacht]

you dont need OF to be top of the charts

[whole yacht]

are you popping rampage before you go into your damage rotation?

or are you using cds then throwing out ravager

[visual dagger]

cds then ravager

[whole yacht]

do cds

then rampage

then go into ravager and other abilities

cds dont enrage you

so popping rampage right after will enrage you, and buff your damage

youre throwing a wet noodle of a ravager

[visual dagger]

gonna dummy for 5 mins doing what you said, lets see! thanks in advance

[broken river]

before anyone says anything I did read the pins... but still having trouble figuring out Execute... Do I only use Sudden Death if theres 3 stacks of Mark of Exe on the target?

[whole yacht]

using execute without 3 stacks is kind of a waste of gcd

youre better off pressing something else like CB or rampage

[broken river]

okay and what about during Execute phase I assume just send it right?

[whole yacht]

no

execute doesnt hit very hard on its own.

[gilded pawn]

It’s still the same rules

2 stacks of sd, ashen jug dropping, or 3 stack of mark

[exotic root]

Guys what if fury warrior got to cast combustion I think that would be a strong change to the class

[modest condor]

you can send it early if you really need the cdr on bladestorm right now

[gilded pawn]

Need to pad rn

[modest condor]

like if you're on 2 stacks and your bladestorm has 10 seconds left but you need it now

[gilded pawn]

Right this second

[summer quail]

hmh that kinda sounds like battlecry, the cd we used to have 🙂

[oblique trail]

Abilities don't snapshot CDs in retail, so if it's before or after Enrage does not matter in terms of damage, nor is Ravager itself really a big damage component

[exotic root]

No but what if it was combustion

That way it’s castable while casting other spells too

[acoustic yoke]

Man I don't know how people are doing like 3 million dmg on Brood

Maybe I just suck tbh

[oblique trail]

blast more burst

[summer quail]

you're not using cds well prob

[eternal sundial]

Have less warriors n shit

So u can consume all pad

[summer quail]

oh yea that too, bench the other warriors and frost dks

[lean zealot]

@whole yacht I was reading you reply to another person earlier saying cds then rampage then ravager.. I have my Reck + Avatar + Ravager@player macro'd together, is that bad? Like will I lose out on enraged ravagers that way sometimes?

[eternal sundial]

That is bad if ever considering no odyns fury build

[acoustic yoke]

Tbf it's the starfall cannibalising shit

[eternal sundial]

Doesnt matter who's competing

[acoustic yoke]

But yeah cd timings I guess

[eternal sundial]

U want to aoe everything thats well stacked

And not very contested

[acoustic yoke]

Well stacked is the key issue here

[summer quail]

how many boomies? if just 1 you'll be fine and should be able to do 3m+

[whole yacht]

your cd's dont enrage you. so youll lose enraged ravager every time. unless you run OF

[whole yacht]

i hold between 3 and 3.5m on brood. cd usage is KING on that fight

[oblique trail]

It really does not matter if you Rava -> Ramp

[whole yacht]

enrage empowers your ravager though

if yo dont run OF, you dont enrage on cd pop

meaning no empowered ravager

meaning loss of dmg

am i wrong?

[oblique trail]

And if you read my reply, you'd know that we don't have snapshots

Buffs are dynamic

[whole yacht]

i didnt even see you reply to anything before this

[oblique trail]

#fury message

👍

[whole yacht]

im not solely looking at this chat

[plucky oak]

Do you guys try and desync cooldowns with your other dps in m +? i run with an unholy dk and we are both on 2min.

[compact siren]

checkmate

[modest condor]

ramp > rava because it lines up better with unhinged procs

[clever belfry]

HBT

[whole yacht]

what does that mean

[hybrid dawn]

are there any good guides for beating zekvir on ??

[clever belfry]

#fury message

[hybrid dawn]

huh

[clever belfry]

yeah

[acoustic yoke]

2

but double on-use or we just keep it one only?

[warm crag]

treach + skarm should be optimal

might not be good bossdam

[summer quail]

double on use for overall damage, 1 for boss damage and/or if you cba

[unreal onyx]

tank re-lists key as City of Threads when I joined it was listed as NW

nice

"you were removed from the group"

[languid turtle]

if I wanted to run fresh meat what talent should I drop for it?

just running the default M+ thane build currently

[summer quail]

hosen

[summer crater]

He really just removed you because you use a German client

[unreal onyx]

understandable

[covert blaze]

hinrichten

[still basin]

Proggin Ovinax, got break, are we supposed to be top on Adds and Top in ST on Boss?!

I mean sure, ye, Adds, whatever, but I feel like we shouldn't be anywhere near Singletarget topping or am I wrong? Roster maybe differently skilled to way too much AOE trying to greed?

[modest condor]

no we're nowhere close to topping the boss

[still basin]

rip my rosster

[modest condor]

should be in the bottom half of boss damage

i mean you're progging

how many pulls are you in

[still basin]

New guild. Had it on 10% 5 weeks ago but 2 guilds disbanded, one sec lemme get logs

They are.. I think 80ish pulls in?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7J16xMP38RVLcK9q#boss=2919&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=damage-done&cutoff=2&target=75

Cutoff after 2 Deaths filter yourself if needed

This is current evening

Boss Dam

[torpid sand]

gotta love uncapped AOE clases

[still basin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7J16xMP38RVLcK9q#boss=2919&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=damage-done&cutoff=2 and that's "Overall" - same 2 Death Cutoff

I mean it's fine ish but we hit 40% before hitting 3rd egg set on 2nd platform I feel like you could skip a shitton if you'd get mroe ST out?

[winter shoal]

Tell those hunters to stop playing mm

[still basin]

But side question - Performance seems to have gotten better this week on that Boss or am I placebo'ing?

As in System Performance

[last sparrow]

is dracthyr healing still bugged btw?

and for science how do do you get it to happen 🤔

[oblique trail]

It's fixed

Well, it's mostly fixed. If you swap race and you had visage active, it'll stay after race swap and work outside of combat

Not that this is overly helpful

[last sparrow]

ohh fair

[winter shoal]

Like half the raid seems like they're just padding on adds, which is 100% pointless because the fight doesn't count for logs anyways

You should have a handful of people assigned to kill adds, everyone else is on boss

[still basin]

I mentioned it and we were hitting Platform 2 with 10% less Boss HP later on.

I shouldn't talk as Trial but seems like it worked.

[fair star]

Why is frost mage getting buff

How is frost mage getting buff and we arent

[winter shoal]

Are you doing zerg strat or doing 3rd platform ethically

If you're zerging, you're way behind on boss dam

[summer quail]

who knows if they actually are getting a buff overall. they are buffing the underperforming tree

[winter shoal]

Your rets can go left side build with tempest (raid cleave spec instead of m+ spec) and they'll gain a lot of boss dam without losing much aoe (which you don't need anyways), and shamans, hunters, and mage should all respec for boss dam too

[fair star]

Next patchnotes i read warrior nerfed

I think we are just always middle of the pack as warrior

[covert blaze]

are they tho

[summer quail]

hi zhai

[fair star]

Idk i saw damage increse on mage spells and no damage increse on warrior spells

[still basin]

Our best try with many dead today was 43% ending Platform 2. Generally we phased into Platform 2 with 62%. Way behind.

After we talked about it, we hit Platform 2 with 51-52% ( 10% less Boss HP ) but couldn't finish Platform 2 today due to egg breaking issues sadly and various stuff but roughly calculated we would have finished ( after people swapped talents, focus ) roughly with 19% Boss HP if we'd finish Platform 2.

But ye. Way too many people greeding. I would "understand" us as Fury's greeding to not miss GCD's to keep up with Anger Management but the rest? Pretty sure they can take 2 seconds to break eggs

[winter shoal]

Yeah if you're 19% going out of p2 you're fine

[white rampart]

if i want to enchant both authority of the depths and radiant power, does it matter which is in my MH?

[winter shoal]

Welcome to WR2000 mythic raiding, people greeding and messing up mechanics to do mediocre damage anyways

FWIW fury has plenty of uptime on AM even with a few gcds off to break eggs

The only one that's a little iffy is on the transition between p1 and p2

[restive peak]

You're not there for ST, you're there to crush the adds; everyone else who's remaining AOE to pad or greeding for pad is literally the problem, we also outgear+the dmg buff means if you just do mechanics everywhere you'll get kills

Also 19% P2 end is giga, boss is literally dead by end of 1st egg break

I miss reclearing 😦

[still basin]

I know I'm not there for ST that's why I was wondering if I should be topping the first half of the evening. Was just odd to me that's why I asked since wasn't sure how accurate Log Statistics are currently, it shows us with Havoc Bottom for Ovi Boss DMG ) but ye. It went smoother after a couple people got told off to swap to single

Thanks for the input y'all tho ❤️

[restive peak]

Topping dmg yes, topping boss dam? OH GOD lmao

Np big dog

[winter shoal]

I'm extra triggered tbh bc my guild had the exact same thing

[still basin]

Yea was just about Boss Dam fuck Overall

[winter shoal]

We literally lost like 30+ pulls with multiple 1% wipes

[still basin]

I'm too old to care about parses

[winter shoal]

And people doing like 500-700k boss dps

[still basin]

Oh noes Big :(

[restive peak]

Parses are a meme and a sidegame for reclears yolo

[still basin]

Especially now with the buff. Tf do you wanna do, reparse every 2 weeks? :D Fuck Mechancis for the entire raid tier amiright?

[winter shoal]

Ovinax doesn't even count for allstars

[tardy lark]

but you still get a parse

[still basin]

Another side question: Do we have a "minimum Haste % Breakpoint" to keep up easier with Anger Management on that fight? I misplay sometimes but maybe it would smooth that out?

[restive peak]

Parses in general are stupid as fuck and subject to RNG/degenerate gameplay where your team funnels you etc

[winter shoal]

I blame everyone else stealing my add dam tbh

[still basin]

HAHAHA

Love that one 🤭

[restive peak]

My ovi kill parse was 4, and my boss parse was 99, because we had 2 fury warrs so I went RA and funneled boss (this was early tier when we needed boss dam), parses are a meme

[summer quail]

that is what i told myself when i got a 0 parse

[restive peak]

Mutou would never be wrong

[still basin]

Imo all people greeding for parses are looking to leave the guild at some point and are not reliable. :x

Maybe a bad take I see black and white only mostly :(

[summer quail]

tbf that 0 parse got me mythic transmitter so it was all according to plan from the start

[winter shoal]

Idk man if I were recruiting for a lower rank CE guild and I saw someone shamelessly padding on Ovinax prog, I would simply not take that person

[restive peak]

My old guild finally got CE, was full of giga parselords who only cared for that, and they literally imploded the next day with 13 of 20 (not including the 3 of us who left during prog) leaving for higher ranks immediately

So you're not wrong

Like killed queen > 13 gone within 24 hours

Now they'll be lucky to recruit and reclear before season 2

[tidal kindle]

Take me back....

[restive peak]

Garms is the silken GOAT

(fuckin dirty arms player)

[still basin]

tf is that emote lmfao I haven't seen that in ages

:D

[tidal kindle]

Omega omega lul

[tardy lark]

Arms objectively better on that boss

let me hit the scarabs a lot 🙂

[tidal kindle]

I can say I'm being ethical when executing scarab

"It's more boss damage in 15s, trust"

[tardy lark]

nah, the Thane shit going on on court is straight up trolling

but boss is a walkover now

[restive peak]

You hate me for my thane kill bro

[tidal kindle]

Our 2nd warrior back from Japan trip so once he's comfortable w/ queen (he didn't prog cuz japan) I can just full time arms I think

[winter shoal]

Our rdps and healers still can't figure out Kyveza lines after 100+ pulls, I'm dreading how long it takes them to learn Court dance

[restive peak]

BUT I LOVE MY THANE KILL

[tardy lark]

i did thane as well this week

[restive peak]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201

This was me on the scarabs

[tidal kindle]

Kyveza individual responsibility, court 20man ballet

Court is what CN council should have been imo

[tardy lark]

yeah better kill those damn scarabs before the damage reduction is removed

[still basin]

They all call us Zugzug but I had the most mature discussions in this Discord 🥺 I love you guys. Shame I didn't try Warrior DPS earlier. :p

You're all chill :)

[summer quail]

die on both reclears xD

[tidal kindle]

Is this

Cuz you keep

[restive peak]

Nailed it 😛

[tidal kindle]

....feeding

🥁

[summer quail]

badoom tss

yea it's all a trick so i don't have to play as much

big brain

[winter shoal]

Hard to do a 20 person ballet when 8-10 of the people are incapable of doing mechanics, I fear

[tidal kindle]

[restive peak]

So excited to reclear and raid log

Pretty sure my title is secured too so fuckit

[young swan]

dude what the fuck did perplexed just do to skarm

jesus christ

[winter shoal]

Warlock things

[restive peak]

Get lock'd nerd

[tidal kindle]

Looks like they left

Xan

Perplexed....

🥁

[restive peak]

LMAO

[storm rune]

I'm jelly, I keep hopping guilds this season, at this point I need to start vetting better

[restive peak]

I stepped down to 2 day cuz Rhythm became a cancer dumpster fire early and I saw the implode coming, and it's been a bit weird being so slow on prog

But the reclear and not playing 6 days a week is nice

[winter shoal]

2 day is goated

[restive peak]

Pros and cons

[young swan]

i like 3 day more

[winter shoal]

I like my guild, I just wish our rdps and healers could get their shit together

[restive peak]

The benefit to higher ranking is you finish in 4-6 weeks normally and go down to 1 day earlier, but it was such a dumpster I knew it would take as long as it did

2 day is slow, and the 1st hour of your 1st raid is always literally everyones brain coming back

[tardy lark]

how about a 4 (6) day guild and 3 splits

[young swan]

[tardy lark]

[restive peak]

I will never do 3 splits again, fuck that it was so cancer

And then I left anyway

What a waste of my life lol

[storm rune]

That shit requires a mental fortitude that makes a game feel very ungamelike

[restive peak]

I just did 3 warrs, which made it even worse

Cuz 2 were just dead chars after

[tardy lark]

i did 3 warrs this tier around cause i didnt trust id have the time to learn several classes properly

[restive peak]

That was my main reason for doing the 3 warrs

[eternal sundial]

id go 1 war 1 magus 1 ret or some shit

[tardy lark]

we have a pretty decent spread over 25 players

[restive peak]

Next time I'll do 1 warr and 1 class of w/e seems "meta" since the vaults have value then even if you take no gear

[tidal kindle]

Some combination of

Warr/dh/dk always needed

Dk just to offspec blood for that 1 fight per tier

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-hi-cute-paw-adorable-gif-15365720

[white rampart]

if i want to enchant both authority of the depths and radiant power, does it matter which is on my MH?

[unreal onyx]

no

they work equally

[white rampart]

ty

[warm crag]

what is funnel?

[lost saffron]

Funnel deez nuts

[fair cairn]

guys with what talents do u sim (1T 5min) best for raid? i mean u prefer full ST-slayer talents or the multi target slayer talents with WW which are used on the most bosses?

[brittle crow]

fury does tank dmg in single target

0 reason to play full st unless theres literally no adds

u go full aoe burst on every other fight

[clever belfry]

so true king

so true

[lost saffron]

Thats just you bro

[clever belfry]

in my chat gpt apl that didnt use CB it did tank dps sure

[brittle crow]

i only press bloodthirst and tclap

(not tblast)

[lost saffron]

We could tell by that statement

[brittle crow]

if i dont doom how will we get buffs

[clever belfry]

man fury warrior is so bad rn!!!!

fuck!!!!!!

[brittle crow]

ye

[clever belfry]

unPLAYABLE!!!!!

[lost saffron]

Yes, blizzard will look at what you write here

and think

[gleaming siren]

After 20 nerf and only 19 buffs

fury is unplayable

[lost saffron]

Hmmm we should really buff warrior

[brittle crow]

it works

for rets

[lost saffron]

Yeah because ret is always

insane

so insane that almost no guild plays one

[brittle crow]

would be unfair

so they dont

[gleaming siren]

But people played Ret on the endboss (along 2 Fury warriors)????

[lost saffron]

Shut up

[gleaming siren]

No u

[lost saffron]

No u

You are not a real warrior player

playing warlock in classic

[gleaming siren]

true

[brave girder]

can anyone link me a good treacherous transmitter weakaura

[whole yacht]

https://wago.io/jX4s-GYvb

[brave girder]

ty chief

[restive peak]

Autocorrect on tunnel LOL

[brave girder]

whats the prio for rampage bloodthirst and raging blow

[lost saffron]

Depends

are you enraged?

[brave girder]

yes

[lost saffron]

How many targets?

[brave girder]

lets say 5

then

[lost saffron]

Bloodthirst raging blow rampage

[upper lynx]

do you spend a sudden death proc without any marked for execution stacks?

in single

[brave girder]

is there agood guide ?

[chrome plover]

use it to refresh juggernaut stacks, or when you have 2 stacks of it

[chrome plover]

wowhead

[serene vessel]

chat

someone give me nitro

ty

[modest condor]

no

[sinful spoke]

no

get a job

[still basin]

I'mma need your help again peeps. My warrior is the only class where it just doesn't pot with Avatar / Trinket Macro Useage. Any ideas?

[sinful spoke]

huh

why wouldnt u pot with avatar

[still basin]

No I mean as in

It doesn't use the pot

[sinful spoke]

trinkets are on the gcd

[still basin]

And it's the only class it sometimes works, sometimes not.

[rigid stirrup]

Just prepot 👍

[sinful spoke]

what trinket is it

[still basin]

Skarmorak

[modest condor]

try putting the potion before avatar

[still basin]

Nope

[sinful spoke]

put the trinket last

[compact knot]

pot with avatar hmm

[modest condor]

did you recently swap spec or hero spec?

[still basin]

Uh

No just talents

[modest condor]

i've seen reports of people's bladestorm macro breaking if they swap between slayer and thane

[sick kelp]

we play thane in keys and slayer in raid?

[modest condor]

most of the time yeah

[still basin]

Wait let me scroll up somebody Thane'd Court right? 🤭

[modest condor]

you can play slayer in lower keys for the burst and thane on silken court

[compact knot]

a lot of people go thane on court

[still basin]

I was kidding, they were poking fun at each other like an hour ago :p

[modest condor]

no people do play thane on court

since the buffs to thane a while ago

[sinful spoke]

add a cast sequence to ur macro ig

[still basin]

I mean as in I was referring to the chat shenanigans up top. Nothing against Thane on Court

Not my main language, misworded

Oh how would I do that Cheche?

[sinful spoke]

me not that kind of orc

[still basin]

Will google, will try, thanks

[modest condor]

i dont think a cast sequence is the answer

that macro should work normally

[sinful spoke]

cast sequence will prbably fix it but im psuire trinkets are on the gcd so

lemme try one

[modest condor]

they arent

[still basin]

Yea it just sometimes does and sometimes doesn't and couldn't figure out why

[modest condor]

with some exceptions

[sinful spoke]

huh

weird

i just did it

and it worked

actually nvm i lied my trinket was on cd ill try again when my shit is off cd kek

eyah it works

#showtooltip
/cast Avatar
/use 13
/use Tempered Potion

is what i used same trinket too

[unreal violet]

what is the haste/mast fury usually wants to shoot for

[sinful spoke]

@still basin

look at my buffs

it works

idk why it doesnt for u

[calm quartz]

I hadn't played my warrior in a while

Tonight I got to truly get a taste of the queueing for keys experience

Literally just queueing for 12s getting mass declined, and the one key I got invited to, I was removed from the group

[covert blaze]

dont macro your pot

that's bad

[astral path]

princess prog build

tanky ass mf

not even bad dps

if good procs does more than slayer

[still basin]

I just pot on CD in low keys this is not about raid or anything

[astral path]

holy fuck

i have more hp than our blood dk

i am massive

fury tank era

[wispy dock]

fury slayer tank bis tank

[short cobalt]

yoo guys can u spell reflect the retch on first boss of NW

[modest condor]

you cant reflect it but it reduces the damage

[short cobalt]

shiiit

thx

[verbal rivet]

Dk not even needing to hit defensives until like +12s

And then still having the best defensive for it

[smoky vale]

🙂

[verbal rivet]

Unholy just takes it raw at +12???

[smoky vale]

yeah

[verbal rivet]

Imagine hitting AMS being optional

[smoky vale]

hitting ams is optimal

[verbal rivet]

This isn’t helping me not reroll to DK

[smoky vale]

gives runic power

ams is rp gen not defensive

🙂

[verbal rivet]

What’s the highest they tank no CDs

I forgot AMS was part of BoS burst

[smoky vale]

they die at 15 by 39176 overkill

and this with my uh's gear at 622

🙂

[verbal rivet]

Pls be 622

Oh thank god

Was boutta be SHOOK

[smoky vale]

let me get a log of someones stats

to make it worse

[verbal rivet]

Oh it should hit like 16/17

[brittle crow]

whats the proper way to figure out which spec of a class is best for raid or dungeon at any given time

[smoky vale]

looking at journal

and itmings

[brittle crow]

dawg do u think i play fuckin

hunter?

no

[smoky vale]

read your abilities

?

[verbal rivet]

1. Type of fight. ST/AoE.
2. Timings
3. Every spec has some god damn NERDS. Ask people. Use the MMO part of the game.

[smoky vale]

or look

what spec of hutner are you playing

[brittle crow]

im not

..

thats the point

[smoky vale]

which do you want to play

[brittle crow]

i dont

[verbal rivet]

There is no best class for pure DPS. It’s what you want to do in a fight. At the end of the day.

[brittle crow]

im not picking a class

im a warrior main

[verbal rivet]

So

[brittle crow]

i simply desire to see which hunter spec is most played in each type of content, for completely arbitrary reasons

[verbal rivet]

Do math, and look at the screen, many little things??? Fury

Single target? Arms

[brittle crow]

not warrior

hunter

[verbal rivet]

Well there’s keys and raid

Soooo

Surv isn’t being brought by high end myth guilds

[smoky vale]

can just look at amount of logged hc and m+ runs done with the specs

[brittle crow]

yes

[smoky vale]

as a small sample size

[verbal rivet]

Popular doesn’t mean best.

Popular means easiest that is good enough

[smoky vale]

they just said most played

?

[verbal rivet]

Fair

[brittle crow]

ok best works

more specifically

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#difficulty=4
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/39
filter your own data

have fun

[brittle crow]

yea thats it

i knew smth existed i just didnt know what

[verbal rivet]

Godspeed Warrior that can somehow read, but can’t use Google

o7

[brittle crow]

if u could read the question u couldve just typed warcraftlogs.com instead of engaging

[verbal rivet]

Usually they can’t read

[brittle crow]

modern philosopher type beat

[verbal rivet]

What’s the most popular DPS spec Is arbitrary info. More specifics is kinda needed

[brittle crow]

fair..........

[lament otter]

Warcraftlogs / Archon

[covert blaze]

wild sentence

[brittle crow]

wish i could do that

[median dust]

I love that I got blasted a week ago for saying that dropping OF was an option lol. Seeing more and more run it. This is what i've been running too. Feels better to me in high keys.

[tardy lark]

Titanic rage is QOL i'll never forgo

[chrome iron]

Hey guys whats up. I returned to wow back from Shadowlands and i main Warrior since Draenor. Im like hitting lvl 80 today but i see DK's wooping our ass right now. Is it still late to reroll to DK or it wont worth it? Thanks

[sour frigate]

Reroll ench

Fury feels good rn tho

[chrome iron]

i was always like plate DPS tho. Pala or Warr

[eternal sundial]

Just play ur main imo

Cant go wrong with relearning warrior

[chrome iron]

Also 1 more question. I see people that main dps in PVE also push keys in other role specs. Does that mean that you dont have a spec lvling system like Legion to boost your ''dps'' or ''tank'' spec? Its just a matter or gear like old times?

Im talking about lvling spec system like Artifact power in legion

[sour frigate]

No all the things are in talents rn

[chrome iron]

Great. Thanks

[unreal onyx]

Depending on the content you do, Theres always gonna be specs better than you but warrior is in a pretty good place rn gameplay and dmg-wise imo

[sour frigate]

And decline-wise

[brittle dock]

Wars need lust. Shout at your buddies to make them go faster.

[clever path]

I want a shout support warrior spec. Just shout at your team for buffs

[chrome iron]

crit banner from Pandaria was cool. Sad they removed it

actually all banners were nice. You could banner intervene for PvP etc etc

[clever path]

I just like the idea of yelling at someone as a Rez

[south kayak]

[sour frigate]

If only aas could cleave during ww like rogues do

[south kayak]

only

real rampage

[craggy sleet]

rip fury juggernaut

[flat river]

real

i miss legion fury

battle cry + rampage + odyns = dead

and u didn't even pull aggro from tank by doing it

[south kayak]

aggro in legion was way better

or maybe tanks had way bigger threat aggro

or dps lower

[flat river]

i miss Maw of Souls

[tardy lark]

Threat modifier on tank abilities was insane. BDKs pulling shit with Blood Boil, sprinting off and dropping Death n Decay while you never had to worry about threat was peak

DAE miss legion?

@mossy fox

[south kayak]

[tardy lark]

thats a big number in binary

[south kayak]

lmao

[mossy fox]

Legion so goated dude

[south kayak]

logged into this old char in some legion pserver

me when i have to equip boss gear in M+

poggers

[sudden tusk]

Pet Battles need to explode

[clever path]

If you’re talking about the pet battle for the secret, I don’t do pet battles and I beat it in 2 tries lol

[dry halo]

Pretty sure this is from legion back when rampage actually was a priority spender

[south kayak]

Yeah it is

I logged in to an old legion pservers

[flat river]

it was, when you reached 100 rage first though

[unreal onyx]

Ramp is still a priority spender

If you play am

[dry halo]

Yeah didn't play fury much during legion ( more of an arms guy) but fury rampage hits hard as f

[chrome plover]

real rampage was much more recent

[dry halo]

I am guessing this is from DF ? Think onslaught was a thing then

[south kayak]

[chrome plover]

yea season 2

[unreal onyx]

Any build using AM had real rampage

[tardy lark]

its not like AM = ramp asap

[iron kernel]

Which one trinket are best for Silken Court myth fight for amrs / fury? Skarmorak Shard 639 or Transmitter 639?

[chrome plover]

I use transmitter+sacbrood

but transmitter can be annoying even if you are using it well since the movement is quite precise

[iron kernel]

i have both

but dont know how to correcly sim for that fight)

[chrome plover]

well transmitter is better if you wanna put up with the extra mechanic

[fading sky]

Transmitter if u dont miss

If u miss

[chrome plover]

i think ive missed the buff twice in like 170ish pulls

and it felt real bad

and i kinda wish i had another trinket

[iron kernel]

How u know that transmitter better than Shard?

[chrome plover]

but most of the time if you plan it well it's fine

[chrome plover]

it always is

it's just a stronger trinket

[fading sky]

Coz transmitter at 626 = shard

[iron kernel]

no, shard simmed better for me in normal 5-6min fight

[fading sky]

No way

[radiant plank]

639 shard vs 619 transmitter or?

[iron kernel]

yes)

[fading sky]

At same ilvl no way

[south kayak]

626 transmitter is worse than 639 shard for me

quite a bit worse

[iron kernel]

i simm 639 Transmitter and Shard, and Shard was better all time

[fading sky]

But not by a lot

[iron kernel]

in all sitations

[radiant plank]

one of a million

:thikn

[chrome plover]

they are equal for me on ST

[south kayak]

Walhe sorry you lost mdi

[radiant plank]

🤔

[south kayak]

[radiant plank]

I will slamm my desk

[chrome plover]

639 shard vs 626 transmitter

[radiant plank]

you all

lacking mastery

tf

[chrome plover]

639 transmitter clears all

[iron kernel]

for my stats , even 639 Transmitter < Shard 639

[iron kernel]

for ST and 2 targets

[fading sky]

Buy app this guys build and gear makes best trinket worse than good trinket

[fading sky]

Show sim

[iron kernel]

but when we Fight Silken - we have burst window

[chrome plover]

very surprising but if it's better then why wouldnt u use it on court

[fading sky]

U gotta have some weird shit

[chrome plover]

since it has no downside

[iron kernel]

I will be able to send only closer to the evening

[fading sky]

And they burst at the same rate

[south kayak]

I saw this image where the raid used blue/red transmogs respectively on silken court

have you seen it?

red people used red transmog etc

[fading sky]

Kek

[south kayak]

sounds like a good idea lmao

[fading sky]

Actualøy not a bad idea

[south kayak]

yeah

[fading sky]

That.1 guy in a green transmog

I bet

[chrome plover]

im colourblidn

[south kayak]

skill issue

[fading sky]

Red and green grp

Sounds fun

[chrome plover]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wpHgtTGUwgveriF4sLCkD4

this is ur char

transmitter simming better

[unreal onyx]

Hc Transmitter has consecutively simmed better than my 639 shard

[chrome plover]

in regular silken court slayer fury talents

[south kayak]

sims lower for me

[unreal onyx]

So I just natuarlly use my myth transmitter for every content now

[chrome plover]

same

[south kayak]

yeah i would use my myth transmitter too

if i had it

[chrome plover]

this guy has myth sacbrood too

and a myth 2h

couldnt be me

[south kayak]

I have myth 2h and myth shard

[fading sky]

Which is why id like to c his sim

[south kayak]

[unreal onyx]

I can see the benefit of the shard secondary effect in m+ but myth transmitter burst just too good

[chrome plover]

i posted

his char

[fading sky]

Yeye

But how did he sim

[chrome plover]

but u wanna see what he did

to make shard better

yeye

[fading sky]

100%

Bait sims

This season im 0 for 2h

Bis trinkets

[unreal onyx]

Just kill 1st boss

[fading sky]

From vault

[chrome plover]

killed it 8x then started extending

3x myth m+ vaults every week

no 2h

[unreal onyx]

Just slam 10 10s every week

[chrome plover]

i do

[fading sky]

Stop openening as prot!

[chrome plover]

i still do.

[unreal onyx]

Thats rough

[tardy lark]

we havent seen a 2h from mythic before we started doing splits after progress lol

[south kayak]

tbh you're just very unlucky

[fading sky]

Tbf ive done all hx bossds

[chrome plover]

if i dont get one this vault or from silken kill im progging queen with a 626 2h

[south kayak]

I'm sorry

[fading sky]

Still havent seen a heroic 2h in vault

[chrome plover]

i bought the one from brd

[unreal onyx]

Im basically only missing a 639 neck and 639 brood and im good for the rest of the season (maybe myth queen ring but thats optional)

[fading sky]

(I wouldnt take it) but stilø😅

[chrome plover]

actually i lie i actually got that dropped, but i couldve bought it

[fading sky]

The st spear brd one?

[unreal onyx]

You can craft 636

[chrome plover]

ye

[chrome plover]

true that's the play next week i think

[tardy lark]

how bad is heroic brd

[chrome plover]

i crafted a ring for arms (silken) this week

[iron kernel]

rly +8k dps

but chance of fail)

[fading sky]

Talain wtf did u sim?

[tardy lark]

how tf do you have crests for that

[unreal onyx]

I think I used 3 sparks total for crafts this xpac. 1 2H and 1 wrist

[fading sky]

Or was it feely craft

[unreal onyx]

So I got plenty spare

[chrome plover]

nothing left to spend crests on

[fading sky]

Apart from race

Good

[unreal onyx]

And spec

[fading sky]

Brown is brown

[iron kernel]

I've had both of these trinket simmed before, I swear Shard was a little better

[tardy lark]

i just got finished needing crests and we've been done for a month now

[fading sky]

I swear no

[chrome plover]

i enjoy arms more in keys rn (ive never liked arms before) and im playing it on silken

[unreal onyx]

I am also almost finished needing crests, only missing neck

[fading sky]

So collosus or just slaya

[chrome plover]

colossus in all

fishy ms reset build silken is fun as fuck

[unreal onyx]

And the neck crests I already have in bag

I‘m cheesing ilvl by having 639 tank trinkets in my bag and one 626 equipped

[chrome plover]

yea i have a myth tank trinket in bags too but havent got the crests to upgrade it yet

i just need 2h for the gilded achi

then my alts get 50% off

or 33% off or w/e

[unreal onyx]

I have 40 crests spare this week that I cant spend on anything

[chrome plover]

yeah this was the first week i ran out of crest upgrades

[unreal onyx]

I wish I got the sikran neck but no, it was a „bigger upgrade“ for the 623 reroll char

[chrome plover]

🤡

[unreal onyx]

Ofc it was a bigger upgrade

Who would‘ve guessed

[chrome plover]

that was my only lucky vault this season

the sikran neck

got given the rashanan cloak early too becasue i was 100% in on every boss (only warrior)

[unreal onyx]

My myth raid vaults have been dogshit this season except the one this week with transmitter

And that was my last for a long time since we will extend until ce

[tardy lark]

i am receiving sikran neck on all 3 chars this coming reset

[chrome plover]

my shaman got hers last week

just need to bother pugging 4 myth on hunter...

[unreal onyx]

I am so desperate for brood or sv neck I do 4 m+ this week

[chrome plover]

oh yeah i got a transmitter the vault after we killed kyveza

so i guess that's lucky too

[unreal onyx]

Same

We killed her last reset

Today we gotta rekill ovinax and then it’s up to court prog

Surely ovinax rekill is gonna be a breeze

[tardy lark]

you barely have to do adds after lust at this point

[chrome plover]

im still thinking about our 0.5% wipe last night

on court

and then not killing it

[tardy lark]

doesnt it kinda just die if you manage the last dispel

[chrome plover]

ye

we managed the last dispel

but too many dead

the end of the last phase is still pretty chaotic for us

it dies so fast though

and with extra raid buff it's going to melt

[tardy lark]

are you lusting 3:30 or 7:20

[chrome plover]

3:30

[tardy lark]

yeah makes sense

[chrome plover]

we go into last phase on like 30%

my death was so dumb i am haunted by it

[south kayak]

gg

[unreal onyx]

gg go next

[mossy fox]

I died like this

boomy who didnt have 3 stacks yet at bottom left didnt soak

[radiant plank]

chiken

[tardy lark]

i just had our enh be a terrorist, then our warlock resses me from opposite group and because kill is close i insta take and kill both of us

🤡

[clever belfry]

always boomers

[mossy fox]

im just never taking 3 orbs again

trust issues

[radiant plank]

21pilots

[chrome plover]

yeah we got banned from taking 3 stacks

i died because i leapt over the red orb clump when i was breaking my web in p3

instant 4 stacks

[clever belfry]

i just stopped doing that

u take shit u really aren't supposed to cause leap doodoo and red team extra doodoo

[chrome plover]

also im linked to a dh so i should probs just walk out and let him do it

[south kayak]

What does 3 stacks do

[mossy fox]

nothing

[clever belfry]

means you're one off dying

[mossy fox]

but 4 stack will kill you

[south kayak]

so it's a lot of damage per second

with lots of stacks

[clever belfry]

and if you get griefed by red team (we hate red team)

you therefor die

[clever belfry]

Its not bad if you play the good spec

as arms its kinda spooky tho

[south kayak]

just perma dstance

[mossy fox]

3 stack isnt even that bad is it

[chrome plover]

nah even as arms i dont feel in danger very often on that fight

even with 3 stacks

[mossy fox]

4 is just insta kill

[chrome plover]

maybe our healers are goated

[clever belfry]

i just dont receive healing

🤷‍♂️

[chrome plover]

i only pop dbts when a bug is eating my ass

otherwise sometimes SR damage events and press rally when note tells me to

and i only die to getting murdered or warrior brain

[clever belfry]

not looking forward to first reclear tonight

[chrome plover]

i think our reclears (in a month) are gonna be so bad lmao

but actually no because we have so much damage buff

by the time we kill queen

[mossy fox]

we recleared in 1 day the week after we killed queen

bosses just melt

[tardy hare]

How much is the appropriate secondary stat?

[tardy lark]

3 stacks on court into dispel thingy in p3 is scary af though

[tardy lark]

whatever raidbots tells you

just sim top gear and slap on green number

[sudden tusk]

silken is 100% the hardest boss in the raid rn

wonder if itll get nerfed again with queen on meme status

[south kayak]

it has to be

There's no way they don't nerf it somewhat, after gutting queen

[tardy lark]

its just kinda hard to nerf a dance boss without making it trivial

queen is in no way trivial, even with these nerfs, but its nowhere near the boss it was the first nerf around

[chrome plover]

yeah true

[chrome iron]

ever wondered what top 5 guilds do so good that they kill them with -15 ilvl than you and without nerfs?

[sudden tusk]

well to be fair

[clever belfry]

lots of pulls
outside analysis teams / strats
player diff

[sudden tusk]

a lot of the important classes also got nerfed

we're probably doing the same or a little lower aoe burst right now then they were

[chrome plover]

also consistently pulling for 12+ hours a day

[sudden tusk]

at 625 pre 5x nerf

[chrome plover]

they are obviously far better players than the majority of us, but there is a TON of other factors too

[chrome iron]

thats not mandatory good.

[sudden tusk]

pres and fwar hard carried pre nerf

[chrome plover]

top 5 do that i think

all of them