#fury
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Depending on how much AOE you have, you're just going to be fighting him for damage. GL
I don't think we consistently had one warrior doing better. Some pulls he did more, other pulls I did more. Seemed like it was just rng on who would come out on top.
Especially running AM. You can get shafted on procs and miss your CD windows by 2 seconds, and that'll add up over the course of the fight.
First kill did like 3m because always had CDs align
I would say it's pretty comfy to guarantee cooldowns up
Second kill was like 2.6m because bad align
I never had problems
I am higher some pulls
Details** not log dps
I think we’re just competing for parasites
Once our ret pally started freedoming someone else, I started getting pulls where my CD window wouldn't line up.
Yes sounds like it
So that’s expected
100%
But he consistently gets more roar dmg
So I think maybe he’s popping it earlier for more ticks
Does he have a decent chunk more mastery than you?
Possibly
Iirc bleeds like mastery for us idr
hmh, shouldn't be a difference really since we leap out and charge back in. it's really fast
Probably just a gearing difference.
It happened maybe 3-5 pulls. Not a big number lol
ahh fair enough. was gonna say if you have really low haste maybe
Nah, I was running 33% unbuffed
My mastery could be higher waiting on some ring replacements
holy moly, that's alot of haste
I just ran haste for brood to make it dumby proof on hitting CD windows
Silken I'm running 23 haste and 49 mastery
So that’s just a reality of brood with 2 warrs and a lot of melee
Yup
Once you're done with brood, it won't matter as much until queen.
So close
I think I’ll keep doing the same
Thing. Just faster
Avatar and reck and rip roar asap
Well, avatar every other egg set
Yaya
I’m just talking that first set
Maybe I’m doing in between wrong?
OF and reck for avatar then roar right?
It means he can avatar on pull
Roar is decent dam but really you want to odyns bladestorm asap
Reap procs slap on parasites
Yayaya
Ehh, I don't avatar on pull
If you want to avatar second set, you can use on pull I think
Y would u tho
whether you avatar or not on pull doesn't matter that much. just means you have big cds on 2nd or 1st set
Also prefer to BT and BB when cleaving
But we only did... 7 egg sets. So you have avatar for 1, 3, 5, and 7
Well ya we should always BT when cleaving it’s the prio
Non avatar eggs I assume it’s odyns roar reck and bladestorm into cleave
Because I replied to someone who suggest to cd different times than other dude
like popping everything on pull is more boss damage assuming you lust on pull
Nah we lust 3rd cannister
Does roar not benefit from avatar
And then regular burst with Ava sets
i popped everything on pull, but we lust on pull. then i have big cds for 2nd set
Wouldn’t it make more sense to ofyns first
So you're doing the training wheel strat?
Yeah loll
If that’s what it’s called
No you want the full ava duration during bs
it does, but initial roar damage is tiny. and if you roar first you buff all odyns bleeds. if you do not you miss out on a buffed tick
Gotta Chad comp that fight. 2 tanks 3 healers. Fuck the 3rd area lol
Yes
I have it macroed together. Reck-ava-roar
But I had no issue personally to pad on first set, when do you send exactly ?
I’m gonna add roar to my macro I usually keep it seperate
I hold avatar and trinket on pull
Send everything else
Like eggs pops, they get bumped, you send or you wait the grab ?
Then send cds on cd for each add set after that
For non avatar eggs right , otherwise it’s Odyns after BS?
No double on use? Weak. 

Truth
I have 639 sacbrood should I swap in 626 shard instead for double on use?
No lol
Okay thot so
Don't make it harder
I wouldn’t personally
it's more aoe damage forsure. less boss dam, i personally cba with double on sue
Just never change your target off the boss and spam all the buttons you can
use*
The damage will come
I always target the worm im supposed to kick and burst it
That way I don’t have to kick

I never realized Odyns had a bleed

Durp
But your haste buff 😦
Im 4th on the kick so I never kick
I’m also 4th yes
honestly i think odyns should be all bleed. no initial damage, blizz prob wouldn't have nerfed it as much if it was.
It always dies before I have to kick
You get haste from kick!?
There’s 1 I usually have to kick that’s it
I end up kicking the worm on 4th set usually
When theres 3 of them up at the same time
Frenzy proc
True true
I would just tab kick in between rotation
Is titans torment or whatever makes avatar use OF also buffing the roar bleeds?
But I only had to kick 1 worm and 95% of the time, it was already dead
Im 4th on the middle one it gets destroyed lol
Active dots will go up
That's why you reck first. So when you avatar, the OF proc will crit.
Just had first full night of court prog yesterday such a cool fight!
We made it to first intermission with half alive
Lucky
Felt pretty good overall I think
52 pulls last night and we barely missed intermission a few times
Kept losing a web
Are you in my guild
Haha similar prog!?
uhh... can you play for me pls. we also recently started progging silken court and i hate it so much
because it is exactly the same yesterday first night prog court saw 3.5ish time intermission and go out 1 half alive
@queen linden Ty brotha your answers helped me a lot

After kyveza, court is a god send of a fight
Basically understand now that avatar packs bookending your bladestorm on both side with OF makes u go bonkers, that’s why I gotta use it after roar too
disagree, kyveza is a nice fight
Is princess harder than brood
I don't enjoy fights that take 5-10 pills to figure out mechanics, then 100 more pulls to execute.
Mechanic wise? No.
For now it feels like it, I disliked kyvesa
Kyveza is just very particular with where you stand.
And you watch those Ret with their bop
If you are off on your drop points for charges, it's a wipe.
The daggers have a much larger range than the visual
I personally find kyveza to be harder than brood
Def got taken out a few times when I was clearly standing in a safe spot.
I had weird few pulls where kyvesa spells were desync with what I saw on my screen it was weird
@sour frigate i kinda fell asleep in the train will be home in one hour
So sad my guild only does 2x a week and now probably not doing prog again til after turkey day
Fucking brood
oof having a break is rough if you're going for CE
At least you are not in extend hell
Right ?
Like refreshing our lockout?
man
Not yet but we’re considering
they brought fury warrior to path of exile 2
No Reclear yes
Oh 30 pulls it happens don’t worry
Ah sorry like last night, oh yeah, what happens ? They don’t see the WA telling them to go on the marker ?
Usually someone getting webbed or dying before they can make it to egg
We’ve gotten over people standing on wrong part of egg
Feels bad…. After 100 pulls everyone should have got egg duty so many times
Does feel bad we shoulda had him
POE 2 stream from yesterday
We had a big, big stream
Ok, but what actually gives us these nodes
The Giant's Blood is a keystone
Ascendancy, tree, where?
The other two are ascendancies
Adaptive Capability is a keystone?

Ascendancy
These 3 are from the same ascendancy: Gemling Legionnaire
Sorry i live somewhere if you sleep 5 min in the train, the lady doesn’t talk French anymore but German, and going back is painful
isn't the others from titan? and only adaptive cability from gemling legionaire?
Np happens i just finished work so have some time for dinner
maaan PoE 2 looks so good
hello has anyone ever had this issue where you lose all your WA's ?
i downloaded them again yesterday and today they're all gone when i logged in
I think i didn’t updated my WAs since raid launch
My guilds holding our court lockout and reclearing as much as we can on a fresh lockout next week for one day because of Thanksgiving
We’re also 2day week
That’s what we do in my guild we always have the prog lockout on shitty alt just in case we want to extend if reclears becomes too long
Like we were scared full reclear after kyve would be painful, but was not on first, then was painful this week, so next week it’s long march until ansurek dead
This from PoE2?
yes
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Join Early Access on December 6th on PC and Consoles!
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00:00 - Opening Cinematic
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and extend hell can cause disband, people leaving/ recruit skip the boss you are progging, healers getting mad because they got no loot etc
anyone know if they fixed the crafted ringg exploit?
is skarmorak still better in m+ than khardros ?
Highly doubtful they did
so I assume fixing that thing is just too much work for blizz?
They just don't GAF about it
Best races changing at all for 11.0.7?
is the new ring gonna be any good
or will it be like df and it gets buffed a bit then it becomes turbo bis
We'll see
Don't know if the Sims have been done
speaking of DF, I wasn't there when S1 start, is the ring appear on the midseason too?
No we have stat gems for this ring as an option
I think similar? ring only give stamina but 3 slot gem effect that you can customized
unless I am looking at wrong things
oh there is 2nd stat too? well that is nice.
blizzard plz i have 12 months
rolled
Classic lol
nah just 12 tokens
thats random
i'm fucking stupid
Hey don’t feel bad I can’t even get fury rotation down - keep hitting execute every time it glows bc I have the IQ of a loaf of bread
Giga rip lmao
you would in shadowlands but either can't or don't want to every patch after that
i answered the wrong question im ill sorry
hi spongie
yes you want to bladestorm in single target we talent unhinged which makes it do very good damage
hello
ah kk ty 🙂 been mostly tanking sofar but gonna start dps now abit xD
hey guys, i wanted to ask about talent builds for brood ovinax?
hosen
Or look at raid tips in Archi's guide and take Brood build
which one did you guys do
can't really go wrong
@oblique trail come do keys
don't do benzai, he is big noober
Hi warrior friends.. I know is not warrior related but i have no friends.. I can run tww máx graphs with this?
bruhh. that picture is not readable
Zoom it XD
Thats a ryzen 7 5700x, it def will NOT run max lol
How viable is AM for 13s-15s? Been playing alot of prot so idk if I should try it
Like for regular playing sure, for raids etc nah
Max graph no but decent 5-6 yes
But also who wants to max graphics
You think ryzen 5 5500 rtx 4060 16gb instead will be a better buy?
Raid with more than 20 will freeze a bit but nothing major
You basically need a 96003xd from what I've read for true max
I Just want to raid without low fps
I have a 13700 and I don't run max
Like 5 is ok
Well 1 I'll DM you a "settings" thing for optimal raid./M+ with everything still visible and 2. If you set to those, that PC will run with minimal lag (some fights lag for everyone at specific points for 1s and such)
sorry epsihoney I'm playing stalker 2
shut up noob it was legitimate tech
Thanks
Yo DoI is goated fuck OF
my hpal is getting declined to keys anyway its ok I'm sititng here listening to some dude talk about the lore of irl wars
feeding the mind
I dropped BC for it on Brood just to help consistency with Reck
for wow u need a processor with fast cores
It unironically helped and BC barely matters on that fight
Now though I just play Frenzied and payphone the fight and not care, and just do the damage I do even if I'd get more by playing Powerful
You need God anyway to parse on that fight if that's what you want to do
Could you send settings to me aswell please
Ye IDGAF about parses lol
Me watching the dps warrior die in the MDI
@mossy fox hey youtube

share with the class pls
guys is there any horde race recommanded for m10 + for fury warrior ? never played the class
i see many night elfs on murlon but alliance kek
was thinking about troll for 10% haste or ?
@restive peakCan I get this? I have a 4080 and 16gb but raid is still a lag fest sometimes.
honestly horde races aren't that great, all the best ones are alliance. but tauren sims the highest for fury
out of the horde races that is
Unless you are top 0.01% of players. Play what race you want.
lmao is there something ill miss if i make alliance character on 99% horde server right now ?
i dont play pvp at all
We have cross faction cross server guilds, content and raids
Faction doesnt mattter
Pick what you want you alliance hater
nahh, everything is cross server now basically. is crafting within faction only? i actually do not know about crafting
No. You can do keys and raid with horde as alliance. I am alliance on a52 and have no issue doing content.
yea what about crafting ?
0 issues with crafting
Get what I need in less than 5 minutes
Every time
(Most of that is me using AH to get materials)
ah is cross faction brother
i see nice ok
Quick question for y'all. On mythic ansurek, I see warriors standing in the floor shit before a wrest, near the DKs. Can warrior reflect the wrest?
Race literally doesn't matter unless you're one of the best players in the world. That's the only time you'll see an INKLING of difference in race
so for alliance should i play night elf or ?
No, they use Enraged Regen + BS to immune the pull in and also heal through the damage
You can however reflect the roots and the beam from the expellers in P2
^
Reflecting root means you wont get rooted, and the beam does approx 8 mill damage back to the expeller
night elf or dwarf. both good options, dwarf prob a lil bit better this season
Play what you want man. I play human.
if you do not intend to push keys, play whatever race you prefer. play mechagnome if you want to play that(tho we will judge)
@summer quail i just checked murlok io and there are like 13/15 night elfs in top 15 warriors ( everyone alliance ) and yea many dwarfs later too
Hello, are there softcaps for Haste and Mastery?
Even pushing keys. Unless you're doing Uber high keys it doesn't matter
A majority of the night elves this season are likely just people that were nelf for meld in dragonflight. But meld isn't nearly as good this season
is fury actually as simple as people say it is(not trolling)? want to learn fury or arms just for farm keys, and the general sentiment I hear is that fury is simple and boring, arms is complex & fun; is this vaguely true, or yap?
yeah, whether night elf or dwarf is better for m+ depends on the season. and most likely people cba to race swap between each season
fury simple and fun. arms simple and not fun
ok thanks for help 😗
Whoever said arms is complex lied to you lmao
kek
Every class is pretty simple.
ofc
diva
some just have lower skill ceilings
arms kinda just wants to press everything, spec is a mess
i made frost dk to 80 but i hate his mobility and now i want to try warrior, because some ppl saying frost dk is fun to play, other ppl saying that warrior is the most fun class they ever played idk -_- i have dh 632 2700 mnythic and i like his mobility and overall gameplay
is there decent build diversity?(ie, i want more prio or xyz so i play abc) or do you just play the same build(or, effectively the same build, no noticeable gameplay change)
is there noticeable gameplay change between them? or is it more the case of my dot spreads more good(just example)
ye that’s what I was looking for
thank you!
but on arms u get a lot more options ngl
appreciate the information, tyty
fun is subjective, i got bored of dk real fast. played warrior many years and still not bored of it. just try classes, chances are something is gonna click
i never played warrior will test it thanks 🙂
fury is a marginally to a bit tankier than arms, right?
not even marginally
Enh sham feeling fun atm
noticeably tankier. like quite alot
kk ty
its considerably tankier
wasn’t sure on the margin, didn’t want to say smth stupid
esp if u dont put in any effort to defensive play
i mean arms isnt squishy
but fury can just facetank stupid shit
is it just passive leech from uh
cuz stam/warpaint
bloodthirsty or smth?
warpaint is the main thing
ic
i would call arms squishy now, after they took away 5% avoidance. but it's on the edge either way
meh
ah I see; what is vague uptime on enrage then?
or does it vary too much key to key to say
kk
are both wowhead&icy veins for fury warrior fine atm?
wh better
kk ty
wowhead is very good, i don't really check icyveins ngl
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hi

is there a fury faq?
👑
Around 90% enrage consistent on any key, if you are below 80% you are doing something wrong
doesnt wow force u to calculate damage for everyone in ur team
cause old ahh engine
Any banezi huggers?
Ye WoW is awfully optimized
This guide helped a ton, fr
I never lag in raid anymore, I might go down to 20-30 frames at certain crazy lust phases but it doesn't hit 2 and lock up
I have a 7800x3d and 7900xtx and get 10fps when adds spawn on ovinax 
20fps at some points on Kyveza
translation layer. translates dx8 9 10 11 calls to vulkan
its mostly used to play dx games on linux but i used it on windows too
although ig u would need vkd3d which is dxvk dx12 but idk about dx12
its not really there are like 9 billion yt guides if u care enough
u yap too much @bitter palm
is ur 55th warrior 639 yet
or are u slacking
@clever path
hi
What do we think about the season 2 mythic + pool for warriors
baseg
Fury owns
Arms owns
does outlaw or fury have a lower gcd when hastecapped
if I'm not mistaken, gcd lowers but it reaches a point that you won't match the speed with the gcds so overcapping haste is useless
you cant change the gcd of energy based specs
I really don’t know how rogue works but don’t they just always have a 1 second gcd
yes
So fury would.
.75 gcd at 100% haste
adrenaline rush lowers it
to 0.8

it scales with haste
0.8 at 25% haste
so outlaw prob faster most of the time except during lust
Back in Torghast. I had like 220% of every stat once. Just a blur of death.
combo classes dont get gcd reduced from haste
hi
dont listen to tmy he is challenged
but also don't be mean to him just treat him like everyone else
thank you for your advice
AR is always 0.8, isnt it?
what
wowhead guide says scales w/ haste maxing out at 25%
idk if outlaw guide writer is pepega or not tho
nwm it does scale with haste in tww
the worst addon confirmed
justguy
yeah
same guy......
how come half of wowhead is written by real gamers and the other half is literally whos
hard 2 know who to trust
I got lucky in my vaults these past two weeks so went fury and now I'm blasting

warrior carry? lol
deffective dps
Mountain thane owns
Yeah. Although plays kinda the same as I remember fury playing as.
Except tclap instead of ww
i was look a warcraft logs and looking to see top dps rotations and stuff but i notice noxxiv plays with berserk's torment but pops avatar and recklessness together not 8 seconds apart which i thought is how u play it
5 mesg up u see the dmg over all in that key
What dungeon
DB
win by so much
why would u think that you'd delay 8s
doesnt know it extends probably
because it gives the other for 8 seconds?
Ok so? It just extends
oh it extends? i never knew that
so it has for all of last xpac too (with a minor ordering bug)
extend :this:
that too
i take it u play with this talent if ur not going with OF?
Usually yes
Yeah true but we aren’t a magic based class so gameplay loop probably won’t change until a massive rework
Assassination was equally shit until the df rework right
anyone having problem with certain buttons not working? im playing and idk if its a WA/addon doing it but sometimes if i tab in and out my buttons stop working till i do /rl i notice its my "L" and "J" button so far but there is more buttons not working
I found it’s actually curseforge that causes this for me, usually fixes when I press alt tho
wtf?
bfa assa was really fun with exsanguinate. i liked sl assa too
(i never played bfa assa but know people that have)
Sl assa propped up by 51% aura buff
But we technically have 43 rn and we are still shit
i liked sl assa was pretty fun just spreading dots and waiting
but in m+ it was rough
lol prot pallys in MDI showing off way to hard so they nerfed them .. damn that was fast
Everybody saw this coming ages ago. Not exactly hidden how stronk prot palas are
blindfolded dps maybe
it did good damage but nowhere close to dps levels
😄
ye im waffling but it still did way more than it should
yeah
buff fury by 400%
buff fury by 400%
is that enhancement nerf substancial ?
idk ask them
bout an 8% nerf to their spenders
roughly
yeah
so they are still doing 9 billion per global on first boss mists
Any banezi huggers

Yo enh nerfs finally
Colossus: Mountain of Muscle and Scars now reduces damage taken by 5% (was 2.5%).
yo wtf
5% flat damage reduction at all times is good
that what it was before they nerfed it
and now its back 3 months later lmao
im telling yuo man we are playing colossus arms next tier
they want it to be good
"Upcoming Class Tuning Incoming - Enhancement Shaman and Prot Paladin Nerfs"
get fucked
I'm so happy
Shamans needed it so bad
is the nerf they are getting just 4%?
Napkin math says it is 4% ST nerf and 6% MT nerf for enhance
napkin math says fury needs a 10% buff in all content
napkin math says warrior dps specs need a talent revamp hitherto undreamt of
how is monk discord? i dont have but i hear that they have no one in their discord to even be happy they are getting a buff lol
we have 2 monks that both average 99's
they are giga chads
and them getting a buff is gonna be huge
guide
4-6% nerf for enhance is nice
are they good or just no one plays them? so they look good?
they are very strong
how is slury doing in keys rn ?

Good, tired of playing protect the VIP with em.

Oh shit, Prot paladin took some shots as well.
it's a good day
Are there diminishing returns on mastery?
technically yea but its not significant enough to track
robot does all the tracking necessary
I'm just curious at what percent I should put more into haste
I'm 54% mastery, 19% haste currently
uh i mean try simming more into haste maybe, disparity between those seems a little high
but like if you know how to use raidbots just trying to swap more gems/enchants to haste for example, or some recrafts into haste/mast potentially if you dont have them already
yeah that's what I'm checking rn
seems like haste/mast gems are slightly better, like 800 dps each
never used spear tbh lolo.. Can I self target macro it for it to work or does it need to hit target?
I do @cursor so it drops on my mouse
might throw it into narnia though if you lose track of your cursor lol
you should be able to do @player
yeah use @player
There’s no way sims have you stacking this much mastery
What’s your ilvl and gear like
I really thought
That after the first round of buffs
Blizzard would be like, oh wow people enjoyed that! Nice. Let’s tune it a littttttttle higher still.
No.
Is playing around execute worth it? I basically just use it as filler - don't want to have to track more weakauras if not necessary
As MT you press it like 2 times a key
you should use it as part of your rotation at 2+ stacks of marked for execution
Does anyone know which fury warrior guide is most reliable? Arch's guide on Wowhead say Crushing Blow is a higher priority than Bloodbath on AOE while Revvez's on Maxroll says it is the opposite. As far as I can tell the only differences in the talent tree they use is Powerful Enrage vs Frenzied Enrage and that doesn't seem like it should change the priority.
Cb buffs bb so dno, id say bb is prio but why not press cb first?
Prob trust rev lol
can't believe blizzard buffed WW and forgot to buff the most important spell
XD
ret paladin still untouched
shaman prob still doing 1.5x everyone else
Good stuff
hmm, i just switched to mountain thane but on single target I seem to be down about 150k dps compared to slayer, is taht correct?
Is it time to reroll WW ?
No
hey, can someone help me with something please? how can i remove this ?
what are currently the best pots / consumables for m+ as fury?
I use flasks of alchemical chaos, algari mana oils and beledar's bounty, + tempered potions
dbm adds this
apparently
in plater settings for ''buff special''
is there a better way to know what stats to select for 3rd crafted item/off pieces? instead of selecting each and queing it up in raidbots?
I just do a few droptimizers, or is that what you are doing?
yea. just wondering if i as missing something
Is thane stronger in mythic + then slayer ?
Yes
ok thanks
yes its dbm apparently, do you know how i turn this off ?
you delete dbm and get bigwigs instead
No
BW has the same Feature and you have to remove the files for it to disable it
It stinks
!
Man
This game sucks
Getting declined to 2 keylevels lower than what u already timed
Actually mental
taking me a while to get into a 10 even tho i've timed them all
I feel you, I don’t know that feeling, but I feel you don’t’ worry
You can also add that item in Top gear sim with all stat combinations you want at once
🫡
thats what it is. droptimizer if current gear lackin. narrow down to couple items, top gear stats multiple. ty!
Wrong channel sorry
what's the wa for the scream in arakara ?
PvE moment
Sorry bud gotta be enhancement or frost dk
skill issue ngl
I know
Sounds good but if you’re targeting a certain key, doesn’t really work
sim angle for stats

haste/mast is usually pretty solid
alright man , ty
my crafted weap is haste/mast and my wrists are haste/vers
ahh okej , ill check a few sims out see where it ends up
tho im abit insecure about the embolishment, if i should take versatility or crit .. or even writhing armor
Is Thane on pare with slayer for m+?
Also, how much worse is thane in single target for raid?
when are people usually swapping to VC for m+? 12s?
Then again, when you host your own key you will see about 32521 dps sign within seconds and realize: that’s why I’m being declined.
And they simply pick the utility/meta/hero/battleress/whatevertheyneed with a decent score
warrior in mdi again let's go
do we always want to rampage before thunderous roar?
i mean you want to be enraged
whether that's from rampage or something else doesnt really matter
am i missing something? what warrior buff put us back to pre-nerf?
wallife owns
does anyone have the treacherous transmitter wa?
thank you 🙂
np
SCK wasn’t buffed therefore dogshit
is that how that works
clean your room and take a walk
but it's cold
Ww’s issue was aoe in m+
:(
it is very cold but luckily you're allowed to wear clothes
Walk inside your house
The hell, you are? Lucky
Go monk obviously. 2nd most fun class in the game
but also have the 2nd worst sound design
you punch something and it sounds like you're slapping a jello
Just replace the sound design then with your own

is that legal
Idk if fully replacing is legal but having a weakaura play sound effect when pressing a button is fully legal
Fax
like my friend has stereo sayan 3d play when he's in wings
As a ww main i can say its not

Ele is the best rn
Ele is not the best. Nor is it fun.
Real
I liked it very much
Not hard to execute big numbers etc
Ah yes. Lemme press lightning bolt or chain lightning. With 1 other button every now and then. And not top the meters ever.
It was pre-rework
Now u have to actually press buttons
When was the rework?
A month ago?
Still was harder than fury lol
Not it wasn't 😂
Coolstory
I literally watched an ele sham progging mythic ansurek where he pressed lightning bolt 35 times in a row

So i just
Ele sham and BM hunter are probably the 2 easiest and simplest classes in the game.
Opened random loh
To find 35 lightning bolt casts
And u told me a lie
Okay dude
You think ele is harder than any spec? you're drunk
Im drunk but
This
I didnt say ele is harder that any spec but fury
Ele isn't harder than fury though
🙂
It's just that simple
Fury isn't hard. Sure
But ele is about as straight forward as it gets
But it's not easier than ele
In keys its on par maybe a bit harder due to random procs
Fury is not, if you're playing optimally
Fury has less random shit
Fury is also higher APM and has a higher likelyhood of mishaps
Ele doesn't have random shit. What? Are you thinking enhance? Enhance is like playing ddr with cooldowns
But this is comparing apples and apples, both are extremely simply, and so is every spec except dot tracking and maybe enh
Its true but due to gcd idc about apm really
apm in wow is fake idk man
I mean the apm of various specs is different, the GCD is not static
I don't think you know what you're talking about at all
as long as ur not a clicker its whatev
Outlaw is the only spec i had actual struggle in the first few runs
It doesn't even matter for clickers.
but i also didnt mind double bl fire opener so 🤷 (was just 2 keybinds tho xdd)
There's literally clickers on world first teams. Apm in wow is a joke
There are. If not currently. Then there have been
Max has talked about how he had one
Idk if he still plays or jot
Not*
No, maybe they click an odd button or two, but there are no full on clickers now
Yeah back in like WOTLK lol
No. In dragonflight
Who
Me
how are you going to argue a point you cant prove

box we know u play like a clicker
He didn't say. Max doesn't give out names.
Yeah if you can find me a RWF clicker from DF I'll concede
You won't though
They all stream, none of them are clickers, he did not say that
Giga 
I think this is just a miscommunication of what a "clicker" is
He discussed @cursor vs @player and said people who use @player are typically worse, and said some raiders click their dmg pot etc

Someone said clickers are bad in one of his streams and he talked about how that's not necessarily true.
when people say clicker, they usually mean someone who clicks every button/has nothing bound
And he's 110% right because I do both of those 2 things and I'm bad
Basically @player is easier so the point can be correct
There is noone clicking their rotation at RWF level, what Xan is saying is correct
But if the bad player uses @cursor doesnt make him good
Yeah, @cursor gives you better control, I use @player because fuck that noise
Why would anyone click their rotation when it’s much easier to use keybinds
Ill find the clip later and dm you
I use @cursor mostly and im shit
healer officer doing the cds even 
That's because clicking doesn't inherently make you bad at the game.
People just have a generally bad opinion of them primarily from hearing others say "ew you click?"
i mean shes bad but thats besides the point 
You find me a clip of someone doing mythic fyrakk as a clicker and I'll be impressed and sub to their twitch
Idc think whatever u want
😂
Gave u my point wont argue its all personal
It's possible for 2 people to both be wrong about 2 different things ya know
EZ
i definitely am of this opinion 
I think playing ele optimally is prob harder than playing fury optimally

I click my dmg pot and my extra action button
That is demonic
Man
banuzzy
I keep them in great places
And the fact that an actual RWF raider btw did this too, is inexcusable
I got an ascendance proc at 1 5% mob 3 times today
Especially for a fight like Fyrakk
Andussy
I didnt have such shit casino as fury
Respectfully. I hard disagree
then u prob havent played ele optimally
fury is piss braindead fart spec
So is ele
Ele is more casino
Lol
but u just have more shit to track
I think only literally arcane and enh and outlaw have any claim to difficulty
there is literally nothing u need to worry about for fury
I just spam earth shock and get fucked if i spam rp on fury i dont get fucked
u just press ur buttons
I have not tried Arcane since it got changed around
yeah see this is what i mean
But it was not difficult to play in splits that's for sure
playing ES isnt optimal
Arcane is kinda easy for enjoyment, hard for absolute 100% play
And playing pug on ele even in 12th keys optimally is relatively hard than fury
In conclusion
Need to reroll ret

Ret S3 was the most I've EVER been able to turn my brain off and play high keys
Holy fuck it was so braindead
I dont even have ret yet but my mate says its ez af and he enjoys it more than arms

If Arms was fun, it would be ret
have any of you crafted the algari alchemist stone for a trinket, to get the brief strength buff when fighting, at least til you go for BiS gear?
and can you equip 2 to stack them?
If u have a free spark why not
Just farm sac from ara kara and shard from SV and don't waste crests
Can't stack them. Use 1 for off-spec tank gear and for alts
And u can't stack
yea good point
ok ty guys
dagger mvp
will do!
where is mythic dagger my beloved..
Crit proc candle should be good too
am already at ilvl 619 though, I haven't found anything there over 603 really, iirc
Need coffer keys to loot some nm stuff
did someone say dagger smf?
farm for a map then get a 616

SMF with wands or GTFO
We here to do no damage and look cool doing it yolo
warriors cant use wands you silly
will try that ty guys
I'll find a way
anyone else keeps getting declined when trying to sign for +9 +10? im sure i have signed over 100 dungeons and getting declined them all??? or am i doing something wrong? like using the filter and its bugged?
im Ilvl 623 with 2371 score having all dungeons around 7 to 10 so i find it strange
I have same i lvl bit higher score most is 9 or 8++ but i guess some yt videos say warrior not meta or best class -> decline.
Pug life sad life
i mean literally everybody that wants to fill their vault is doing 10s, so why invite you when they can wait 5 minutes and fill their group with 2700+
with over 100 signs there surely is something wrong tho
dozens of players with more ilvl an io are applying competing with you
and better classes
and 623 is low today for a 10
(for pug expectations)
There are tons of 630+ people apping to every 10, that’s why. Taking a 623>630 when you know neither party would literally be brain dead
id turn down a 630 from azralon in favor of a 623 from a52
Bro Wallife doin DK DPS and winnin an MDI game is goated
We shall never forget this day
i have a question ... i need to know about stat weights, what would be best to craft on items for me ... i think i can still craft two items
honestly pls nerf it, it's so garbage design wise i never want to play it. if it ever ends up giga op i will have to play it
Right just burn it down and start over or delete it
you do not need to know about stat weights, just sim droptimizer with different stats
This is a sim question my dude
for crafted items i can add a lot of possibilities then ?
ye
So i simmed Flask of Tempered Mastery vs Alchemical Chaos and the mastery flask sims higher. Anyone else notice this?
They sim almost exactly the same for me
Doesn’t alchemical chaos have some synergy with something
I forgot what it was
Also it could be true if you just have low mastery
potion
if u use alchemical chaos, tempered gives u all 4 stats
thats the only synergy
Xan do you want a bike
For some reason I thought it’s an embellishment
i kind of want a bike
I am doing a bike promo for mdi
I saw :3
idk if I can promotion it tho 😉
I think its fine to post about in #promotion
we dont have the promotion in canada
Oh damn
im pretty sure anyways
that’s so weird of them but ¯_(ツ)_/¯
usually thats how it works
yeah its kind of annoying but meh
it just want it to have it
not too fussed
is it worth making a new character instead of paying for a race + name change for an alt i wont play
99x of the mog I want I never wear, I feel ya
Xan you're canadian?


