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Ive read that, not helpfull enough ... (only like 1 mill dps on dungeon +8 run) (should be 2 to 3 mill)
Thunderpeter-azjol -nerub if you have time to check more clearly 😅
The sim said i should
So I make mistakes
On bosses
630 ilvl btw ...
Wtf u doin in a 8(
And many of my heroic items are the bis ones
Valorstones and upgrading my key they keep breaking ...
Im mediocre
I think the most common issue for warriors is not the rotation (because rotation is literally as easy as it gets). It’s just uptime. Learning fights so you know how to stay in the action, and maximizing charge/leap/intercept
And of course cool down management. But I think the harder part to get used to is uptime
Intercept you take damage for someone else, shouldnt you leave that to the tank ? 😅 i never use that
I would put that as the last possible action item to help you get back into the fight if you’re out of position.
If you even have it speccd
I don’t use it, just listed mobility items
On sikran u are playing aoe apec?
Wowanalyzer said my uptime is too low ... but cds on a warrior ? Recklessness and avatar, the rest of our case are very low and ignorable ? Like dont save but spend when they are on ?
I think, i dont change my specs for every bos 😅
I primarily focus on m+, know when big pulls are coming that you want to have your CDs for
For raid, it’s important too, because most of your dps comes from padding adds
Wowanalyzer is not updated for warrior, don't use it
Well then u are slackibg
It's an active hinderance in you learning if you're playing well or not
I want to do the raid perfectly, but offcourse its only once a week ... so I fill my time with m+ too
Could you send me the ones you use for each boss so i can copy paste them ?
like wow I sure am shit at the game because I overcapped rage and missed rampages (this is a 99 parse)
I don't get why there's no warning anymore that says it's not updated
Because it very clearly isn't
So wowanalyzer is no good ?
Then what is better 😅
Not wowanalyzer
If you need help, there are multiple guides, either text or video, depending on what you prefer and learn from the best
Text
hit the showers dummies
Then go by what Wowhead or Maxroll says and you'll be fine
But some are outdated, others incomplete, or just wrong ...
point them out
wowhead and maxroll are both up to date, complete and correct as far as I'm aware
If you're not using wowhead or max for your guide to the spec then you're doing it wrong
someone’s gotta be spreading propaganda if people think wowanalyzer is a good tool and wowhead isn’t

guys offtopic just quick question, what would you choose between Myth track legs going for catalyst or hero-track cloak- wings of shattered sorrow cant decide pls help
They made it even easier w the visual guides for the rotation
myth track legs
legs
for fury
The cloak isn't really worth considering unless it's myth track
Still legs
It's just ok on HC but not something I'd pass up a myth item for
its really funny how people getting confused by MONSTROUS 2.600 avoidance proc on that cloak
Myth track items are usually always the preferred choice unless it's the queen ring
cool ty guys
does wowanalyzer not say that the spec is "out of date" anymore
couldve sworn it used to
Just toss it in the dumpster
And icyveins ?
This is all it says (at the bottom of the page)
icy is also updated the same as wowhead
Maintained by the same guy who makes the wowhead guide
I think archi also updates icyveins but i dont use it
Same writer and everything
Maxroll and wowhead are great
Difference between Wowhead and IV, is simply just the layout
They effectively say the same thing (or should at least, assuming he's kept both up to date)
You're gonna get the same general advice from either site
Spend time on dummy = win 😄
u can even type "from:banezi priority" in the discord search and probably find the most detailed rotation guide out there
Doubt
wowhead gets updated faster, so if you're unsure go for that
Rule of thumb is just stick to 1 consistent trusted source
Because looking into multiple sources for a not so complex spec will hurt warrior brains

Get CPM, get uptime get prio get bitches
Our rotation is hard to get wrong unless you somehow are spamming slam
you'd be surprised how many people press rampage as soon as it's available
At least to get 90% of the way there
because that is the most logical way to play fury
am gameplay 
I shouldnt ? 😅 if i dont i waste rage ?
dont tell anyone but i like am
using procs is more important than the little rage you lose
rampage is only highest priority when unenraged
But crushing blow is just the "auto attack" when theres nothing else ?
All of our buttons are auto attack
you need to read the priority for fury on a guide
huh?
the only exception is thunder blast
We don't really have a filler and non fillers
be enraged > click WW on AOE> consume procs > click rampage >
Well the lowest damage we have is the crushing blow ... but since we need to use it a lot cause the rest is on cd, it gets high damage ?
I think you are maybe mistranslating crushing blow
or something
is your game client in english?
Someone get the graph of the rotation
CB is the RB proc on rampage
crushing blow is the transformed version of raging blow
Yes obiously
how is that obvious?

my guy you are clearly misunderstanding something then
We give you the benefit of the doubt but now we just know you're literally missing something here
u literally have same amount of cb casted as rampage
Thats why I am here i guess 😅 i have a rotation addon too, i try to follow that ... 😅 seems like its not telling me well what to do, since i follow it and my dps is still nog high enough
You should have at least to 1 to 1 to 1 of CB BB and rampage
ye always consume cb and bb before rampaging again
not a fan of rotation addons, think they lead to bad habits. better to just sit on target dummies for a while
doesnt matter if u have 90 rage at that moment
I hate dummies, they dont move and dont have drops 😅
The reward is number go up
well after a while regular enemies kinda become like dummies, when you can do the rotation without thinking
big details energy 
Yell are a lot more patient than I am
you need to understand that:
- reckless abandon enhances raging blow and bloodthirst into crushing blow and bloodbath
- crushing blow is your best button so overcapping rage with it is okay
As a warmup bsaically
But its never automatic, cause you'll need to track like if you are enraged and such ?
Also since you guys say change talents often, that also takes away the automatic play ...
the rotation between builds is pretty much the same bar the TB procs
Which on AOE you will consume as needed for WW stacks
So only on ST thane it makes a difference
If you are continously dpsing it's very rare for enrage to drop off
Should I go to raidbots, sim my dps, and try to get close to that on dummies ? How close is considered good, i am not a computer, so I guess 100 % is not attainable
That's fine
But go on dummies
and click buttons
Make sure you have high CPM
Any button is better than no button
But having a sim and comparing to it won't hurt
u just should play the game not sims 
Hey peeps. Haven't updated in a couple of days, updated today, suddenly I got Spell CD Timer on nameplates ( Mob Casts / Abilities ) - would that be Plater or OmniCD you guess?
( never bothered to get the WA that shows the CD )
I think it's plater
Any idea where I would find that or what I should type into the search bar to disable?
But i am not improving 😅
I am not at home right now so cant check mine but maybe it's a custom script or plugin? you could start by looking there
script is a good call thanks!
dummy and show logs
that's the only way we can help you
u got advises here try it up
Do some keys while logging and post the log in #449510248579858432
Anything better to compare to ? I mean in dungeons mostly theres not another fury to look at, and even if there is, theres no reason to believe he plays well or not ...
Yes 😊
thus logs
Compare yourself to logs
compare your logs other people's logs
Yours and other peoples
Thanks for all the advice already btw 😊
If you use bigwigs/littlewigs they have a spell cd on nameplates module. I honestly like it better than spell cd's on nameplates wa
This one I assume ye? Just found changelog from update today says its enabled by default now
on god
to be hoenst stone should be much easier than this . in my alt i am always 50% ish when it come to glided the amount oyu get should be doubled
on aoe bosses are we playing culling and opportunist? or just followthrough and brutal all the time
How do you play around Opportunist?
Do you press Raging Blow even if u overcap rage or spend it rampage?
- you dont play opportunist
- you try to spend opportunist on CB, so cast rampage if youve procced it
why research
i didnt watch a single guide
trial and error
its not ur ke
key
rip it
lmao
What a great mentality
yeah that is not my mentality
And then we blame toxicity in keys lol
dont care didnt ask
U seems to be a cool dude
lmao
you should could know routes and % from watching tanks play in ur keys while dpsing
pff easy neck lol, now which one
yea yea forget i asked
you pick sikran neck
idk why u even ask lmao
cuz i know sv neck is rly good too, and it has leech 
coz the stonevault neck might be better for him? it's better for me
yea i dont touch arms
hes not a raider
so idk having it guaranteed over having to fight pugs is nice, no?
Hello,
do you guys have a good WA for the transmitter trinket what says what you should do?
i don't see the argument here, if stonevault neck is better why care about sikran?
Flex on the poors

^
Thank you!
this is goated
was so happy when my guildie gave it to me
No, as Spongie said. Turbo dog poop trash.

rawdogging them is the best part
freestyling routes
200%
trash
is peak cinema
I rolled 3 mythic items in pug today feeling champ

Got a socket in vault tho 
press w route is too strong
That's the luckiest vault i've seen in a while
i pushed a fix, something was fkd up
Great!
mb
how is your version banned lmao
lmfao
rawdogged
Doggedraw
😊
did a 10 necrotic wake
failed to time by 5 minutes
did an 11 right after
+2'd it
Ez
the difference in groups for pug competence is insane
you guys know if lining comes back immediately when above 80%?
iirc it only checks every 5 seconds
dubious creature

also goes the other way afaik? so u dont instantly lose it if u drop below 80%
either way its not really relevant just look at the uptime in pulls and determine whether you should keep using it
Tree fitty
i assume it works the same way
need warrior that can vc for first 4 mythic bosses last dps needed
we only run vc on 1 of the 4 first bosses(yes i know i'm hilarious)
idc just listen to callouts
i want to craft something (offcourse as improvment) someone told me the ring ... but i heard the next update will give the bis ring for everyone ... so maybe that's not the best to do, what do you guys recommend me to craft with what i already have equiped, please help 🙏
the new ring is not coming out for a while
you have enough gilded rn that it doesnt matter
so you'd say replace the olden sigent with crafted ring then ?
yeah
you don't have to be ''careful'' about using gilded, the limit is high enough rn
can i get the name of the ring ?
ty
mana?
idiot
how is he gonna heal his buddies
DN
dude. u cant use bandages on ur friend.
He doesn't know
the mods are censoring us
are eu servers down or what does "incompatible" mean?
try the check for updates button
they patch rn
It's borked
In the opener with odyns fury with titanic rage, roar and BS. Do you Recklessness + Avatar into Roar, BS into OF or do you Recklessness + OF, Roar, BS, Avatar
Odyns fury after the free fury from avatar expires
got ya and thought so, thank you for confirmation
run as admin fixed for my guild
Is mountain thane or slayer generally better for mythic+?
higher m+ thane
low m+ slayer
mobs die fast = slayer burst is better
mobs live longer = thane sustain and ramp is better
what do you consider higher ?
10 is kindda the point where thane starts to outshine
depends on group
can you explain more clearly 😅 i use pug groups mostly
some groups destroy packs faster some slower 🙂
ok that makes sense
prot nearly bricked our key
bro was pulling 5 mobs maximum at a time
scared for his life
bruh
I like thane a lot because you feel much tankier with more buttons to press and more procs to manage
i don't like to play thane, it feels more tanky, but more boring too
U are tankyer
Boring? Really? How so
jaaa
jsut personal feeling
just saw fury warrior on chinese mdi... i guess another nerf wave inc xD
M8 just play thane
valid
idk i think once you understand the cadence you need to press buttons in during cds it becomes better
banezi must be chomped
i dont like technically having to bind ww
Just checking im correct putting authority of the depths on both weps?
jaaa
just doubles effect
right ok, just making sure im not griefing myself
i used to run 1 depths and one Radiant until i knew it did not matter xd
It plays the same... you hit ravager instead of bladestorm and thunderclap instead of whirlwind.
At least with Thane the thunderclap does something decent, unlike whirlwind.

You know what would be fucking balling though. If we had bonegrinder back, and Anger management had CDR on Whirlwind.
you can ye
you will run into situations where you have nothing left where you'd technically want to ww
Extremely rare but can happen.
But yeah, IF we had bonegrinder back, whirlwind could do some serious damage. That would be nice.
not too rare
~2 every 5 mins according to simc avg but ye
ok thats semantics
i concede
Lol
Well regardless i like both hero specs, but i prefer thane on 11s and higher tbh
makes my life easier
i feel as if i need to push less buttons on thane ... could fall asleep ... slow paced 😅
i think slayer is more fun. but than is better
Am slayer 60 cpm i got...
Am thane*
did you compare it to slayer ?
also how do you know ... is it logged somewhere, and counted ?
Anyone know what this raid timing tracker is called again? used to have it but deleted it
i believe it's this https://wago.io/RaidAbilityTimeline
Thankyou sir
did yall know on 3rd boss during raid if ur the 1st target of the charge she does u can shadowmeld and it will only hit u and not the other 3
does reap the storm damage scale off how hard your bloodthirst hits?
like bloodthirst crit = more RTS damage?
no
im just a chill guy
So is Fury going Thane full time yet?
no
Slayer is literally all passives
Lol
bladestorm > thunderclao
Bladestorm is pretty neat for sure. Just Slayer so boring outside of that imo.
ansurek made me kinda hate how slayers strikes works
Why so
Those aren't even the right spells to compare.
you cant be chill talking to people like
That's crazy, you're spouting nonsense and idiocy.
FUCK YOU

can be parried, sd gets consumed when execute gets parried but mfe doesnt
im just a chill guy why are u so pressed
Oh that’s lame.
resulting in 0 cdr and a munched proc
also its just massively inconsistent pull to pull
haha yes!
Chill? OK?
You compare bladestorm to thunderclap. That's just dumb. Kinda tells me you don't know what you're talking about
Obv. Needs more hit rating
so what i can take from what u typed is that ur not a chill guy like me
I'm not a troll like you, that's for sure.
🤣 Oh expertise. However it’s been quite a while since I dabbled on Warrior. Has Thane caught up at least in M+
why is this guy so pressed LOL
yeah, generally once you get to 10/11 thane is just better
bros mad over pixels in a video game
This feels like a copy and paste
stop rage baiting

I’ll fucking take it. The thematics of Thane were always better to me.
If they buff SMF I'm maining Thane SMF the rest of the xpac
thane is definitely sick, I really like the aoe opener
Warrior has always been just spamming physical for a while. It’s nice to get some Flash in there now.
feels like theres an actual correct way to do it and feels rewarding when you do it as such
honesly smf should be deleted and turned into a cosmetic thing so we can mog 1 handers on 2 handers
at the very least it should be in the spellbook
^
I want thane with reap. I'd be happy
Reap just feels cool to me. Fun little proc
The rest of slayer is just kinda boring
Never been big on bladestorm anyways

slayer is more fun but usually other classes just accept the reality when faced with raw numbers
avg dps above +10
w/e you say man
how do i learn to do that
its the slayer burst
Just press the buttons
slayer is actually a 3m avg dps spec, your group just needs to kill the pull after you finish your burst
its really a pug issue here
Yeah, skill issue on everyone else
for real
me when I see the pack live 1 second longer than my burst
You just log off after bursting
So details don’t count it
bro xd
You need to do more when playing thane
instead of just spamming raging blow and rampage with the occasional Roar and bladestorm on slayer
On thane you also wanna make sure you manage your procs like burst of power and thunder blast, it's just more to keep an eye on which makes it a bit more fun imo
i love playing slayer with decent groups, i'm doing like 8 mil burst when they pop haste with big pull
Is this ring any good, heroic version over other mythic rings? I am picking between the boot and the ring, I dont need anything else.
Yes ring gud
do you guys consistently leap out of the pull-in on last boss in ara-kara, or is that too sketchy? i tried it a couple of times, but my timing's not always great
Recently swapped from arms to fury. What type of enrage uptime should I be seeing in +8 through +10 keys?
Sim it
At some point myth track rings outperform it
95%-100
i think on details it should be like 90-95% or something, in combat you're pretty much always enraged but you usually have some downtime while a pull is being set up or because of mechanics
Detail only counts combat im psure
yes but on the first pull in NW for example you're in combat for like 10 seconds before you can actually start bursting
Oh ya
any takers?
There are times where you have to wait for tank to pull stuff
i generally do the leap but yeah it is kinda sketchy so if you have 5 puddles you can just play it safe
Would I expect a lower uptime in wow logs? Haven’t uploaded mine yet to check, just trying to manage expectations.
yes, logs include time between pulls
i see. ty!
maybe i'll practice in follower dungeon lol
you can tell when it's safe to leap by your character doing a little jump near the end of the cast
also keep in mind that if it's haste affix and the boss gets a stack it fucks with the timing so you can't leap if that happens
chat is there ever a reason to have higher level weapon in offhand
no
then you just insta leap when jump happens?
i'm doing 12+ atm
then that's not a concern
👌
ever since i tried doing it the first time it never felt sketchy
guess i still have the "leap out last sec out of one shots" warrior brain
i remember doing it in legion on avatar on the big aoe
every time lol
and even now on bloodbound on goresplatter ig
I've had an odd issue in m+ and I don't know if it's a bug or I'm misunderstanding an ability. When I pop full cd's it seems like my raging abandon bloodthirst turns back into regular bloodthirst within a couple seconds whether I press it or not?
ty
:D its just unhinged proccing
I figured I was misunderstanding something
read the talent below bladestorm/ravager
yeah I see what you're talking about now, thank you!!
npnp
Swap 639 to mh
yeah thats what I said but the guy ignored me 
hi can someone explain what is the "tech" with second wind and city 3rd boss?
do i just pick up orb and second wind automatically clears it?
Yes, just don’t get hit before it heals the absorb off
warrior gods is there any video/site out there that made you fully understand rotation of fury whether it be raid or mythic?
i kinda get the whole gist and not doing bad but was looking to step my game up tbh
I hit 80 on Sunday yesterday I hit 613. I’ve looked at the guides a bit but ive been just making sure I don’t over cap on rage and hitting buttons that light up. Seems to be doing alright dam 🤷🏻♂️😂
you should overcap on rage sometimes to spend cb and bb i think?
pugging on my alt and this guy is upset cuz we dont have aug and shaman for ara kara, in a +2 
Why do I overcap for bb and cb? I’m new so might have missed something
both of them buff rampage in some way and CB buffs BB
Yeah I’ve been hitting those before I rampage, but I guess I have that initial rampage from CDs I hit. So maybe I haven’t been buffing it. It glows so I hit it then proceed into bb and cb. Think that’s what I’ve been doing
as long as you spend your CB/BB before ramp, you're good
but you could also do CB -> RB -> BB -> ramp
😂
Wow way to dox me bro. +2s are serious work. How am I supposed to get title without playing with the best comp?
LOL
Thanks oven sometimes it seems like my CB is resting and glowing would I want to keep spending them ( coming from a frost dk) I almost have like killing machine mentality with them
you dont get more than one CB per rampage
if it looks like it, its because it was parried
What gregoronsen said, but if you're talking about RB (not CB) reseting and glowing, it has a chance to reset itself and ramp has a chance to give a charge back to it. You only get one CB and one BB per ramp
Are u sure
hidden sponger hacker tech
Woops I’m talking about RB lol my bad
Oh sorry I thought u meant the rb refund from ramping
Also huge help thanks guys
I need the acronyms shiiiiit 😂
What’s CB cause I’m confused but I was talking about raging blow
unable to upgrade my alt cuz of valorstone feels so bad 
Ah okay duh ty greg
Go do the weekly stuff
Delves plus 5 radiant echoes in a big group is great for a big valorstone boost tbh
im valorcapped cuz im crest capped 😦
Humble brag Phil lol. Valorstones are dumb either way
okay guys i have a question, i have this gear and i don't know what to craft.
Any help would be appreciated on what should i do im on a dead end
ring/neck if youre capping gilded crests
With what stats ?
probably mastery and something thats not haste
Crit mastery ?
And also,if i craft the ring should i replace the circle of bones ?
you can sim this in top gear my king
How can i sim something that i have not crafted, im giga confused cat_Autismcat
hi guys, quick question, how do i sim the best for raid?
Patchwork 1 boss 5 minutes? even though we have cleave talents?
yeah just stick to simming the usual patchwerk profile
i actually dont know what the "usual" patchwork profile is xD
1 target 5 minutes
And just to be sure, for AoE patchwerk 1,30m 5 bosses ?
aoe sim and st sim doesnt rly matter
if you wanna sim aoe you're gonna have to cook your own stuff
Okay okay
most common ive seen is 5 target 5 min or regular dslice but i find both extremely unreliable at best
60% dawnthread timing?
dunno you pick maybe check your logs to see your uptime of it
we simmed 80%+ last tier where it was 90% hp or higher
👍
ive simmed them both, it does not give me any upgrades
link sim
593 ring will statistically not sim better than your current 626 ring
fuck
misclicked XD
You know that video of the guy playing out the instructions his kids give for making a peanut butter sandwich?
Quick question, for our button priority for aoe, is bloodbath/bloodthirst better than crushing blow/raging blow to proc reap the storm, or is crushing blow/raging blow better due to increasing the crit chance on bloodbath/bloodthirst?
holy davinci resolve enjoyer
If its for burst aoe (adds are gonna die fast) then BB > CB for reap proc, otherwise its not a big deal since you're gonna press both anyway
awesome thanks boss, i hear talk about both BB> CB & vice versa during burst so i didnt know which one to do
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-single-target
Is it really preferred to stack Avatar and Recklessness even with Berserker's Torment? It's not better to stagger them to have more Avatar uptime?
there is no "more uptime" its the same length of buffs wether you use them together or seperate, the durations stack
Oh I didn't know that. So if casting Avatar give 20s of Avatar and 8s of Recklessness, and casting Recklessness gives 12s of Recklessness and 8s of Avatar, then casting them both together gives 28s of Avatar and 20s of Recklessness?
yes
neat. ty
do we still craft everforged vambraces with embellishment?
Yeah probably
no reason to not do that
sim was tellin me to go with neck but pretty much every one has those wrists
unless you loot some good wrists
streamer loot wcyd 😔
das a good lookin ilvl 
with you current stats are you looking for Vers/Mastery or Crit/Mastery?
or just simming as you go?
always sim
Yeah, that's my general goto, I am sadly still in the position where Ilvl is king, fully time work and parent, etc, means less gaming time. lol Still working on the IRL Boss Prog. 😛
kinda? much easier to get a myth shard/khardos than treach but ppl will also prefer shard/khardos since its easier to play around
5th mythic boss vs 1 +10 a week
well there's like 30 m+ items on the table 
sims can't model the secondary effect of shard properly
if i sim 5 target patchwerk 1.5 mins ... Shard / TT > TT/Sac
but thats 2 on use trinks
i might run 2 on use trinekts next mythic plus see how it goes
They could if you manually set a lot of parameters
padge
Idk I went off of my worst raid uptime
theres no way when i told ppl i simmed at 65% and i was told im padding the sim that anybody had over 80 realistically
thats some hornswaggle
Is there baseline stat prio for haste and mastery I did a topgear sim and it had me drop my haste which was at like 28% down to something really low like 12% and increased vers for some reason
aint no way in hell its tellin you to drop over half the amount of haste you have
I ignored it bc it said like a 4K dps increase
unless 
I figured somethin was wrong
how do you see what stat% youd end up with after a sim doe
I put the gear on…
Tried out survival on my 10 ilvls lower hunter (with bm gear so not good stats for survival)
Doing as much on that as on fury in mythic+ and I haven't even played survival before
Survival doesnt hard outdps warrior
Yeah, a 630 fury is surely going to do 2.5 overall in a dawnbreaker 11 without an augment
You are not doing 2.5m overall in 11 dawnbreaker as a 620 survival hunter
No, a 632 survival hunter was
That means that he would outdps Bashers by 400k dps
even more than that lol
And bashers is i believe by far the top SV hunter in m+ currently
Now i know its a common thing to bash warriors dps
But SV aint the culprit
I don't know what to tell you
I was at 1.9 overall he was at 2.5
After first pull or?
No, full run details
But regardless, Fury isnt far behind SV at all
Now depending on ur gear / build and skill this gap can be bigger or smaller ofcourse
But it wont be 25%
Did you have an aug?
Cuz that's not the same
We literally only get dmg gapped by enh/boomie in top runs, otherwise we're fairly close
We just bring nothing else so we're B tier still
hey guys, are we using ravager or bladestorm for m+? On the WoWhead preview it shows bladestorm talented, but the copy/paste has ravager.
thane btw
ravager
do you guys know if its possible to make an interrupt macro to charge, pummel, and target last target?
thanks!
should be as easy as /targetlasttarget /use charge /use pummel Charge has a minimum range and Pummel has a max, so they won't overlap, but targetlasttarget can be kind of wonky - you'd be much better off with a focus or mouseover macro
actually you might need to separate targetlasttarget, I think it will probably try to charge and target simultaneously instead of one after the other
ohh okay
yeah trying to see if its possible to charge and interrupt my focus target without having to change target
if they're already set as your focus target, then yes, that's much easier
/use [@focus] pummel```
ohh let me give that a try, thank you!
the annoyance is having to set your focus mid combat; easy to do if you have downtime before a pull though
No
sweet this seems to work, pressing it once only charges, but if press it again it casts pummel
The difference in the logs at that level is 20% for the highest of each
Ye that didn't happen, all good brother lol
works good enough for me, much easier than before, thanks for the help
Yeah it did, the numbers in details are obviously not going to be the same as the numbers in logs
Even log dps for 2.5m u do like 2.1/2.2m
Question for anybody, are Brutal Finish & Fierce follow through better than culling cyclone and opportunist for Mythic Ovanax? these are the talents recommended in Wowhead, but all the top parses on wowhead have culling and opportunist
So you randomly pugged an 11 with the best survival hunter to ever play and he was just hangin out, makes sense
Where's the SS of this magic Details run?
Yes, I'd take a picture to prove a point to autistic discord warriors when the top 10 survival vs top 10 fury in each dungeon is already 6%-20% higher per dungeon instead of just trying out survival when I see how strong it is while already having a hunter alt
Cool. Looking forward to it
When the same warriors said we weren't that weak in dungeons before the buffs
Yeah yeah
Because you know data doesn't matter and all that
When did we say we weren't weak before the buffs
We weren't unplayable, we certainly weren't strong
That's what almost every regular here was saying until critcake started shifting over to a dk
lol no
i was saying we were unplayable
Yeah we were dogshit until they buffed us again, because all of the streamers started rerolling off of woyer
Why dont they buff other specs then...
Turns out people don't like playing classes that are nerfed into the shitter, whodathunk
Tbf there was a shit ton of doomers who kept saying warrior was unplayable
Things like ww subrogue feral etc are still shit
Warr dmg isnt prob, utility is. We have none
Cope
Unles we get bl + cr or smth we are fucked
Like anyone new in here who didn't know any better may have gotten the wrong idea
Yeah we were unplayable for top end keys, we were not for weeklies, so again there's always nuance
Because warrior went from best spec for pve to worthless in a single patch
^
We were best raid wise, m+ we wre not
Fury is still bigger than most specs
We are still top 3 raid i would say
Yeah, but a lot of folks can't tell the difference for some reason.
Even with no utility its just better
ok guys so
i played both enh and outlaw
and outlaw FEELS better but enh IS better
decide for me
This is cope
Excuse me?
Worthless is crazy when we were still really good for a couple mythic fights
It's more that Blizzard primarily balances around raids, and M+ & PvP were catching strays from Blizzard designing a raid entirely around Fury's burst profile

As a one of tax rather than because the class was good
"Well I need Rallying/Shout, might as well have it play add control"
Warrior is notoriously feast or famine as far as raid slots go
I mean yeah, even BM could do weeklies before their fixes
Weeklies doesn't fucking matter for anything lol
And yes, BM before the patch was by any reasonable definition unplayable
(for dungeons)
Even if some decided to carry their bm friends for weeklies
(Yes, this was when we were at the absolute worst)
Many of us were still managing to keep up with meta at that point pre-buff, we weren't awful, we just went from BIS to lower mid
And now we're very strong
Not lower mid in mythic+
We went from one of the bottom specs for damage to middle
https://mythicstats.com/dps?dungeon=&period=985 Good thing there's data then
Poor marksman
not everyone logs their runs, plus we do good prio dam and bring shout which is strong in most comps atm
imo we're good enough and asking for more buffs at this point would just be greedy
Banezi pushes 17's bro
That's true but it's still enough to get an accurate profile of what the damage profiles are, and since it's a large sample you're going to have good and bad players in each class
So?
U gotta trust
we really are good in raid right now
That's true
Neffy still hasn’t posted anything about that survival hunter I was getting ready to reroll again
We're also great in the lfg signing to keys hoping we get in 🙂
hehe
Just look at the top logs for each dungeon, survival versus fury
surv does good dam
I stopped playing frost and started the fury warrior 🤷🏻♂️ having more fun with fury. Fuck breath
do you put authority of the depth on both weapons?
Yeah
Depends on what u play, radiant is more overall in m+
But depths is more st

sheeeeesh insane!!!
Atleast edit the score maaaan
Sil this is lazy
Cmon
he did 17nw but has +10 in other keys
all natty
^
We are upper, just below the meta...literally same place we were DF s2/3/4
If we're there, we're strong, because our design isn't super good for M+ in general
At what %
Lmao. Guild is shite got me
Could be worse, I could be Swordish or the ww in my guild with 99/100 averages in 5/8 guilds
Oof
wait so authority on both weapons each proc?
in previous xpacs I thought you couldnt do double enchants
also why do people use the crafted weapon as an offhand, because rb?
Becuz myth weapon is 639 and crafted 636 max
is crushing blow still higher prio than bloodbath if playing thane and vicious contempt
depths for st radiant for aoe value
So offhand radiant?
I run 2x depth even for high M+

Im new to sims.....is there a way to sim the best gem combinations all at once without manually doing it?

is it worth crafting a second weapon if you still don't have a myth one?
You stole my week 2 heroic volcoross r1 and for this crime I will sentence you to an eternity of me yapping in your general direction
...
whats the tree?.
thats a m+ build?
CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxAMMDzywMzGMMzMGmhZmttZGzMzCzMmZGmhFbzwMjBAAACzYbZgFwEMDTgxG2A
thats crazy dps
it felt so fluid the whole dungeon
id pay a million to get that
just hitting cds whenever they came up
so what makes that better than mountain thane?
not doubting you just curious everyone always tells me MT lol
uhhh
it feels better to play
also i think its burstier and better for ST
but not as tanky
Power lifter build
👀
considering RA thane is the best ST spec we have for m+
its just a playstyle difference
he prefers it and so he plays it better
cant deny that dps
if it was better then people would be playing it at a high level
Sheeple
im rubbing my eyes still looking at @astral path dps
Noxiv isn't a free thinker 
u wanna talk about sheeple
he swapped to thane when he started doing 16s
go look mythic silken court fury parses
its a 60k dps dif single target
thats real sheeple activity
in my sims
hi guys i have a ret pally friend telling me that they are only "B" tier dps cause of archon.gg, are rets really just B tier?
i feel like warriors are B tier and rets are S tier
compared to enhance everyting is B tier
ahhh
TRUE
so thats the comparison for archon huh
firehawk is insane
idk i havent seen archon
god tier
bro let me
pls
Haven't gotten there yet = L + ratio + didn't ask
That was my first key running it
Ret is probably S tier for non-title keys tbh, their damage profile is insane for mid level keys
Def gonna run it main now
Test
ohh so they are the <11 bullies?
is there anyway to set archon to show <11 keys for a tier list?
monk meta soon 
Monk when they proc dance every time
Flurry
ye
🤤
I’m theory crafting my perfect group
idk tier lists are the lowest form of content
Druid tank, monk shaman warrior dps, any healer idc
i already did its protpal rsham ww outlaw fury
I am somewhat attracted to playing 2m agi classes and that sucks because that means I have to get skardyns grace on each of them
(12 key max)
No vers buff?
🤔
What does outlaw bring
Lmao
I'm not sure exactly what you meant by this but it seems like it's more or less 50/50 slayer and thane

i still have it 619
last time I looked it was like 75/25 in favour of slayer

got it from the first key i ran this season
I got it on hero yday on my shaman and he’s 630 now
and stuck to it
Do NOT look further down the list
People just don’t know about her thane tech 
havent played the game much tbh
What class is that
ww
Oh okay
i played thane in a boost run couple days ago, steady damage ngl
very good
will do it again for silken for sure
Let me just loot it
No 
Worse than farming skadryns
Buy it out
Rather spam delves for candlestick
Got one for 50k few weeks ago
Nah not much 

ckopoctb
yeeeees

the N is backwards tho
И = Е
Yeah i cant type that
reads
or is it a Z turned 90 degrees?
All ns on my phone keyboard
🤔
finally figured out how to change my name to my warriors name in this disc yeet
woop
clockwise or counterclockwise
yes





