fury

[drifting pulsar]

I dont macro it. I just press my buttons, cause I dont wanna use just the macro.. but i've seen it from a lot of players

[mental lake]

and in MT it doesnt matter because u get enrage from OF/AVA

[fading sky]

macro is just fine btw

[drifting pulsar]

so. charge macro its fine

macro (meaning Reck, Avatar, TR)

[undone flower]

And pot from cauldron, pot R2

[last sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[mental lake]

only time u wanna reck before charge is with thane in m+ whenn playing without titanic rage

[drifting pulsar]

I pop pre-pot on charge

[drifting pulsar]

I see

what about rotation and ability prio ?

crit cake mentioned bloodbath on MT

and CB on more ST

[undone flower]

I have the pot on macro, I pot every time I press it and off the cd, I pot on trashs because I’m lazy

[drifting pulsar]

(if I am correct)

[drifting pulsar]

I save for either big pulls or bosses

[undone flower]

Ah you mean in m+

[drifting pulsar]

yes always

[undone flower]

I play prot, I’m not a regular here

I just play fury in raid and I’m a little bit clueless sometime so I ask few things, like I don’t know what hero talents I need to play on silken court

[oblique trail]

You can play slayer on all bosses and you're fine

[undone flower]

It’s more, can I play thane ? I prefer it tbh

Or is it trolling boss dmg wise

[oblique trail]

You can play Thane on Court if you really want to yes

[drifting pulsar]

thane feels cluncky imo

[oblique trail]

That is not a worry on Court, trust me

If people do the mechanics, then the boss will die

[drifting pulsar]

any suggestions on the rotation ?

anyone wanna give me advice ?

I can stream it

[undone flower]

Idk I do as I do in slayer fury and I do 2m overall the first time I play it in a key (just I press more thunderblast)

[clever iron]

Thanes just better right now

In higher keys

Up to 10+ and more

when the mobs dont die that fast

[undone flower]

10s I don’t play thane, things die so quick

The very rare time I dps keys*

I play slayer but with anger management that’s fun too

A little bit frustrating for desyncs

[clever iron]

True

[drifting pulsar]

is there a channel I can upload video for the rotation ? maybe get some assistance on my mistakes ?

[undone flower]

I hate kyvesa so much because of downtime -> desync, hopefully she died last week

[summer quail]

be glad we play RA

[fading sky]

Fact

Am fun in keys frustrating in raid

[undone flower]

But not on ovinax

[fading sky]

Ofc not ovi we get 2 have cds for addsies

[green osprey]

do you guys think that making a gaming desktop without separated graphics card from the processor will be fine to run casually wow?

[orchid dagger]

No

It will be fine at first, but then the shotgun becomes more appealing as time goes on

[green osprey]

what builds you guys run?

[hushed ocean]

4080+ or nothing

[unreal onyx]

7800x3d 4080 super 64gb ram

[green osprey]

you video edit for work or smthing?

[unreal onyx]

no

im just gaming

[green osprey]

thats crazy

[undone flower]

I’ll buy a new setup when gta 6 releases and my third grandson turns 18

[trim hound]

i5 6600, GTX 1060 6gb, 32gb Ram. Ol' reliable just keeps on truckin

[unreal onyx]

I had a 9900k and 2080 super before

but wanted to upgrade a lil

[chrome plover]

i have like 3060ti and 5800x

[unreal onyx]

valrakken fps tore me down

[bitter palm]

5700x3d does fine in raid and shit friend has it

[undone flower]

Does your setup is compatible with windows 11 ? I still wonder what it looks like

[bitter palm]

u can "hack" the iso

[drifting pulsar]

7800x3d is the best cpu for gaming btw

[green osprey]

allright, one last. Any good pc building sites i can advice?

[mossy fox]

false

9800x3d exists now

[unreal onyx]

new amd is better

not by toooooo much but it is better

[drifting pulsar]

owe yes you are right.

[unreal onyx]

better why what? 8% or so I think

[mossy fox]

from what ive seen it's still a sizable upgrade

[drifting pulsar]

its like 680pounds if am not mistaken

but its HUGE

[unreal onyx]

500$ iirc

or 450

[mossy fox]

only if you buy at scalper prices

just wait for it to die down

[drifting pulsar]

Black Friday soon

[mossy fox]

doubt thatll change much

just gotta wait for supply to catch up to demand

[unreal onyx]

or until the next better cpu comes out

and then buy the previous gen

[trim hound]

No clue, I haven't looked into it.

[mossy fox]

i'm going for 9950x3d, i enjoy the extra cores for my use

even if they dont put 3d v cache for the 2nd ccd again like they did with the 7950x3d

[fading sky]

Crit with the 5090

And 9950x3d

For wow

[mossy fox]

nah i doubt i go 5090 tbh

[fading sky]

😆

[drifting pulsar]

crit with an external pc working as a seperate gpu

[willow onyx]

Allo folk, a quick question, just prefacing: I know stat weights are kinda outdated and I always sim my gear. I'm sitting on 19% haste and 43% mastery. I know stat prio should be strength > haste > mastery. I've been trying to get some haste gear but not much has dropped. Anyways, when I do sim gear that drops wirth haste, it always says to keep mastery, any idea why?

[last sparrow]

i mean the extra processing power is worth it for streaming/content creation

[fading sky]

100%

[bitter palm]

still bottlenecks the 4090

cinema

outside of 4k rt

[fading sky]

Do y play 4k crit?

With rt?

[mossy fox]

4090 can keep up with the 3 separate encodes for twitch1080p/youtube1440p/local4k that i do when im streaming

no rt, fuck that

[oblique trail]

RT overrated

[bitter palm]

pt in wow

[fading sky]

But 4k?

[bitter palm]

pt is cracked

cp2077 metro exodus

alan wake 2

but u need to use heavy upscaling

[mossy fox]

yes in those games i like it but useless in wow

[bitter palm]

5090 will make pt real

[fading sky]

Lets be real 6090 will

Nvidia, doesnt have to push

So we gettin facked

[bitter palm]

according to leaks we have its like 60-70% faster

nah its in their best interest to keep pushing

[fading sky]

So was the 7900 xtx

[bitter palm]

amd sucks dick in ray tracing

[fading sky]

Well 15% ahead of the 4080

[last sparrow]

i might have too much haste

[fading sky]

Ill trust when i c

[bitter palm]

xtx cant get 30 fps on 720p wiht path tracing

[fading sky]

Amd is mid range gamers

[bitter palm]

ye im not saying it isn't their mid range is cracked

[drifting pulsar]

Nvidia is changing the game ngl

[bitter palm]

they just cant compete on path tracing

and pt is the future graphically

[willow onyx]

Anyone kow the answer to my Q? :)

[bitter palm]

its the only thing we have that actually transforms the way the game looks

[bitter palm]

dont question the robot

do as it says

[oblique trail]

Because mastery is good, long and short of it

[fading sky]

Thats what they said bout rt🤣

[oblique trail]

And you answered your own question by saying don't follow stat weights

[willow onyx]

Cool, thanks. So just listen? Man I was hoping for some more haste, I like faster gameplay lol

[summer quail]

do not think that much about stats. just sim, also idk where you got that stat prio from. wowhead says this but most importantly it says to sim

[bitter palm]

rt thats actually implemented

full GI

and everything

not just shadows or reflections

looks good

[summer quail]

@willow onyx

[bitter palm]

nowhere near as good as Path tracing but its not bad

[fading sky]

I dno, man i think the 6090 wilø be the spot

Before games support pt

[wraith wasp]

Not enough

Get MORE

[summer quail]

wilå

[fading sky]

Games i play at least

[bitter palm]

metro exodus

spot the path traced imagine

image*

also i dont think metro exodus has

ray reconstruction

[fading sky]

Just by lookin at the fps drop

Id say right one

[bitter palm]

u can tell easily without looking at anything

[fading sky]

Idont think it looks better

[bitter palm]

its way more realistic

[fading sky]

True. But ness better

Or worth 50% fps drop

[willow onyx]

Oh wow, they did actually update the stat weights on WoWhead guide! Thanks folk!

[undone flower]

On the middle one why the bottom of the stove fucking shines

[bitter palm]

cause its rt

artifacts

oh that

flashlight

ig

idk

could be an artifact too

[fading sky]

But fpr sure rt no rt little d8fference

But pt there is one

[summer quail]

that is not what you should take away from this conversation... pls sim if you're decently geared. if you're below like 620ish do not worry about stats. worry about ilvl

[fading sky]

Unless he is doing dungeons

If u are haste - mastery pieces takea prio in gen

[undone flower]

Tbh I prefer the left one but I didn’t play metro, I just have read the books and it’s too sunny for what I imagine métro

[fading sky]

Same

[bitter palm]

it doesnt fit metro i agree

but its more realistic

[fading sky]

100%

[bitter palm]

cp2077 is the prime example

just how good PT is

[fading sky]

Cp2077 ended up being a crazy impressive game

[trim hound]

Eh, I agree the technology is cool, but I don't think anyone has played a game and thought "man if only it had more realistic lighting"

[fading sky]

At the cost of 50% frames

[bitter palm]

ye until u try it

sure the cost is insane but the point is

[fading sky]

But again depends on games

[bitter palm]

u cant make textures look better anymore

games have to progress graphically and pt seems like the way

[fading sky]

Id its prob rly impressive in mass effect // skyrim kind lf games

[bitter palm]

nvidia invested in rt in 2018 and its paying off now

[fading sky]

Ill never own a pc that can do pt

[undone flower]

Technology is cool, it will 100% be a shock when I will do the jump from never played a game with rt to the best thing in a year or 2

[fading sky]

Prices on gpus marone

[bitter palm]

u need a 4070ti super at least on 1440p with heavy upscaling

amd cannot do any path tracing at all

maybe that changes with rdna4

[fading sky]

Hopefullt

If nothing else, for competition

[bitter palm]

no high end cards so i doubt it honestly

[fading sky]

Markets always better that way

[thick fossil]

What's an average overall dps of a Ara Kara 12?

[bitter palm]

impossible to tell

groups can be oneshotting the packs

tanks can be pulling half the dungeon each pull

it all affects ur overall

[undone flower]

I did 2 m but didn’t time because pug monkeys on last boss 10 min left

[thick fossil]

I did 1.7 mil, we almost 2 starred it. Just I was expecting more.

[undone flower]

So I was at 1.8 when we left

[fading sky]

Overall isnt that important

[thick fossil]

I was highest overall.

[fading sky]

As he said

[undone flower]

Yes you don’t care about overall tbh, arcane mage was meta not because of his overall

[fading sky]

Killing big mobs fast

Is good

[thick fossil]

Mages are traps no matter the level.

[undone flower]

I love traps

[trim hound]

Nice

[thick fossil]

I don't mean that trap....

[ancient quiver]

Just befriend a mage and make fun of them every time they die until they become imortal

[thick fossil]

Lol

That could work.

Mages and hunters seem to be on that "can't survive" level.

Even though mages have a ton of defensive.

[bitter palm]

player isuse

issue on both

[ancient quiver]

Both have good tools just don't use them properly

[undone flower]

That’s exactly what I was typing

I play Hunt and a few time mage like hunt is naked compared to them

[ancient quiver]

Hunter randomly insanely tanky if u feign the right stuff (assuming feign works on said things)

[trim hound]

It felt very weird switching from mage to warrior when it came to defensive/utility buttons

[ancient quiver]

Warrior feels like it has no defence comparatively

[undone flower]

And then on first boss of nw in 12 you can only turtle or you just die with the other cd

[ancient quiver]

Just invite prot war

[undone flower]

I am the prot war

[chrome plover]

then its your fault they die

[undone flower]

Was talking when I play my hunt, I don’t take hunters in my keys

[chrome plover]

then invite a prot warrior

[heavy dock]

To mage? How lol

[ancient quiver]

🪤

[heavy dock]

You can reach some stupid lvl on dr as a dps with everything stacked

:v

[undone flower]

And wait 30 more min to have a decent prot war who is still stuck in 12s now ?

[thick fossil]

I do that to.

[undone flower]

No i Will just bet the boss will target me just once or /p brez me

[thick fossil]

As I am am as high io prot as I am fury.

[chrome plover]

why did you say i am the prot warrior when you are the hunter

[undone flower]

I am both I hunt traps as prot war

I trap hunt as prot war

I prot hunt as trap war

It’s just my alt the hunter

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/um-wot-um-wot-confused-markiplier-gif-16374086

[sinful charm]

Gang which Druid Race do I go for Herbalism and Mining

[bitter palm]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[frank rover]

wym theres no way to improve

theres so many ways

so far biggest progress u see in aestetics is still pictures

[ivory ingot]

[spare pagoda]

This is probably asked often but searching didn’t yield an answer, at what key level would thane overtake slayer?

[gleaming talon]

When the thane gods have bigger thumbs than the slayers

It’s more about your playstyle and preference

[spare pagoda]

How so

[narrow narwhal]

Probably 12s or whenever mobs live beyond everyone's CDs

[spare pagoda]

👍

[summer quail]

there's no denying thane is better in higher keys

when even noxiv swaps

[exotic root]

Ofc theirs denying it

Have you never heard of gaslighting

[summer quail]

no, gaslighting isn't real

you're being crazy

[exotic root]

Who told you that?

Was it your stupid friends again

Have they actually ever done anything for you

You know they just want to drive us apart, right? or are you as stupid as they are?

[summer quail]

you did, you don't remember?

[exotic root]

You're literally insane. youre lucky i love you because no one else fucking would

[summer quail]

real, love being insane

[quick meadow]

For gems on gear are y’all following wowhead where you use one of every gem then filling the rest with more of the onyx or just stacking one gem?

[past pivot]

sim it

but stack in my case

[neat totem]

DPS being almost identical, which would be better for high keys? https://www.wowhead.com/item=221079/crystal-fissure-girdle?bonus=10265:10390:40:10877:10377:10383:10255:10256:1661&class=1&ilvl=626&spec=72 WITH AVOIDANCE or https://www.wowhead.com/item=178734/fused-bone-greatbelt?bonus=10390:6652:10877:10377:10383:10256:9935:10255&class=1&ilvl=626&spec=72

[summer quail]

dude... you have to link the sim

[chrome plover]

he's basically just asking whether 600 avoidance or 500 vers is better defensively

[neat totem]

dps is same, im thinking about survivability of avoidance vs vers

[chrome plover]

probably avoidance but like

it's so insignificant

[summer quail]

yeah definetely the avoidance for surv

[exotic root]

Just get the avoidance roll on the vers piece? Hello?

get better?

[neat totem]

should've thought about that

[violet moss]

dunno, i've played slayer since launch but i started playing thane today and it's actually quite fun...
I have a glowing symbol WA to help me track thunder blast and burst of power as well, looks clean af

[velvet canopy]

I thought I'd miss all the little extra attacks in Slayer, but nothing beats big blastin' as Thane.

[violet moss]

damage seems good as thane as well, i do 4.5-5 mil dps on 5 targets cleave

and i do not have optimal stats and gear

with all buffs active^^

xd

[manic pelican]

I think I’m part of the tiny % population that just Thanes it all. Raid, M+, etc. I loved slayer from the start and didn’t start dabbling in Thane until it’s most recent buff and now I out dps slayers that were neck and neck with me before hand as a Slayer

[warm crag]

if you don't care about performance go for it

[violet moss]

wdym performance? I just did perfect rotation on both specs and they seem to do the same dps...

You just get a bit more survivability on thane no?

i guess maybe there is a slayer spec that makes you hit more than thane? idk

[fervent yoke]

Pretty sure slayer still sees play in m plus

AM slayer maybe? Idk for sure though

[modest condor]

definitely not in high keys

but in weekly 10s you can play slayer for sure

since neither of the advantages of thane really matter at that keylevel

[violet moss]

i see i see

[tardy moth]

We hold reck/ava for odyn's fury if out of sync?

[steady sierra]

That would mean Am, no?

I wouldn't hold anything longer then 7-8 sec, if so.

[tardy moth]

No AM....just when downtime leads to a desync

[eternal sundial]

Dont hold CDs 90% of the time

More CD uses is better than "optimal" uses

[tardy moth]

Roger....ty

[torpid gazelle]

So I was looking I've been doin keys at like 11 is this around when thane start to be better than slayer?

[flat river]

gg i will stop playing now

[alpine nebula]

Boys, Keep this or craft a 636 cape ?

[narrow narwhal]

636 braxers

[flat river]

real

always braxers

[alpine nebula]

Can't craft both?

[narrow narwhal]

For embellishment

[alpine nebula]

Ye cuz I have bracers

thats why :p

[lean nacelle]

636 cloak will beat a 619 cloak

[alpine nebula]

But according to raidbots crafted cloak gives me 11k dps increase

But then I just craft w/o embellishment on it or ?

[lean nacelle]

yes? you already have your embellishments right?

[alpine nebula]

Yess on my bracers

[lean nacelle]

then craft w/o, wouldn't be able to use it if you did put an embellishment on it

[alpine nebula]

Tyvm bro

[lean nacelle]

but obviously, sim to see if you need other crafted options as well

[exotic root]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

the extra stam and armor prob provides more survability than the proc

tho

if u're going for a drip off, yes, keep it that shit is gas

[violet moss]

lads

do i switch out thunder clap with whirlind on hotbar? Feels like i don't need i

Thane

[winter shoal]

/cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap 
/cast [known:12950] Whirlwind
/cast Slam```
This will automatically swap TC/WW/slam on your bars depending on your talents

Technically it's still good to have ww on your bars for cases where you can't BT, RB, TC, or exe, but that's very rare

And the damage gain from the WW is also basically 0 anyways

[sage karma]

Enhance needs to be nerfed

enh 12 ilvls lower than me does the same damage as me

very nice

[fair star]

what has priority

in rotation

[past pivot]

check guides

depends on St or MT and hero talent

[fair star]

bro idk what to use MT

rampage or bb or cb or thunderblast

[sage karma]

lol

[flat river]

rampage if not enraged

thunderblast prio

[sage karma]

Rampage > TB > CB > BB > BT > RB

[flat river]

then BB

[past pivot]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/the-war-within-guide#rotation

[flat river]

no its BB prio in MT

cause thunderblast procs

[fair star]

but

like do i only use rampage to enrage

my rotation in df was spam rampage 😦

[sage karma]

Wowhead says CB > BB

the difference is miniscule

[flat river]

to enrage or to refresh RA stakcs

[tardy lark]

you are gonna get both off regardless

[sage karma]

you press both anyway before pressing rampage again anyway

[fair star]

wait

but when do i press thunderblast

only to get stacks or on cd

[tardy lark]

thunderblast is your highest prio in any target count basically

[fair star]

so always press thunderblast

press rampage for enrage?

and then bb>cb

[tardy lark]

keep meatcleaver up with thunderclap/blast or ww
rampage above 115 rage or if you need enrage
CB->BB or however you wanna do it doesnt matter

that'll get you pretty far

[clever belfry]

@tardy lark hewwo

[coral garden]

If I’m using mana oil as I should, is 28% haste optimal?

Or go to 30%

[warm crag]

@clever belfry is 28% haste optimal

[tardy lark]

henlo anda

[past pivot]

Sim it and don't fret percentages

[clever belfry]

i think 28.5714 (repeating) = 100 / 7 * 2 is optimal

[past pivot]

only in eu, metric

[clever belfry]

?

[coral garden]

Thank you

[warm crag]

this was a joke

[clever belfry]

please just simulate your character and let the robot make decisions for u

unless u have a good reason to not

(and if youre asking this question you do not have a good reason to not)

[coral garden]

I tried simming for first time today, is it best to use “best gear” for upgrades?

[clever belfry]

you mean top gear?

[coral garden]

Yes

[clever belfry]

its the easiest way to compare stuff you have yes

you can also add stuff you dont at the top, or run a droptimizer to compare all items in the season (this will require premium i think.)

[coral garden]

Tyty

[covert blaze]

i want 7

[sullen dove]

for all dungeons ye

psure still hits every raid boss all at once

[clever belfry]

mayhaps

[sullen dove]

would be much sillier "sim this one raid boss"

[lament lagoon]

hows BM in high keys

huntard

[hardy bluff]

not the meta so probably mid

[lament lagoon]

Well i say high but its a 13, thats not high no mo

[hardy bluff]

in a 13 everything is good

[ornate gust]

This build sims 2.3% dps increase than the normal Thane build in dungeon slice.

[past pivot]

dungeon slice

[sage karma]

is it better to rampage if you're rage capped than to use BB/CB?

🤔

[lapis yoke]

No

[sly bobcat]

press button, do dam

zugzug

[sage karma]

Thought so

[shy void]

my dear warriors ... i need help 🙂 ... For raid (beside full single target boss) with crafted wep is still better to use Flame Wrath or we just use most itlvl/wep dmg weapon (in my case myt wep)??? ... it is so strange that for ST Flame Wrath beat 639 weapon...

[sly bobcat]

press button, do dam

zugzug

[wraith wasp]

I like this person's logic

[gleaming talon]

press button, do dam

Zugzug

[young swan]

that weapon is useful on like 1 fight and thats it

[shy void]

so it will be sikran and princess

[young swan]

its also just like... barely better than a myth weapon

i wouldnt even include kyveza (at least for mythic)

[eternal sundial]

stamina > cantrip cringer weapon

[steady spruce]

I mainly do m+ with my casual group of dads currently doing 10s and soon pushing higher can you provide any feedback on gear or talents?

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/sargeras/beekus/

I have never played war till this expac my main is monk and this expac i started with mage and decided to start war recently

[gleaming siren]

I rate your character 619

[steady spruce]

Lol!

I walked right into that

[steady spruce]

Any specific reason for the 619? I feel like im 615

:p

[gleaming siren]

[steady spruce]

Yea... i understood the joke from the first time.

[wise trout]

does this change how i should use impending victory?

i can still use it to heal and then it heals me again?

[young swan]

proactive usage instead of reactive

ie if you know theres a big burst of damage coming up you press IV beforehand

[wise trout]

oke

[polar roost]

as thane when ravager is up with unhinged. I just do rampage, cb and tb when proc?

[young swan]

pretty much yeah

[polar roost]

or also bb when no tb proc?

[young swan]

u wanna make sure ur not overcapping on tblast, spending CB, and pressing rampage before unhinged procs again

[polar roost]

max 2 stacks yeah. im just not sure if i should also bb when no proc and its up. to have more tblast since its highest priority

[last sparrow]

question for brood, if we dispell with bladestorm does it still root people around us?

[young swan]

let ravager consume BB for u

[young swan]

if it gets applied to you and THEN u bladestorm, yes. If you are in bladestorm and it targets you, nothing happens

[oblique trail]

If you're in BS while it'd target you, no. If you use it after you get root on you, yes

[last sparrow]

riight got you, so not punished if im bladestorming but if i do if afterwards punished

so easier to just leap out and charge back in

[young swan]

correct

[oblique trail]

yes

[last sparrow]

♥️

[covert coyote]

I always get it while im throwing CDs and insta dispel it on accident with OF and fuck the melee

[whole yacht]

i got yelled at for hitting bladestorm at the exact frame it hit me, and it got insta dispelled cuz of bladestorm

was a rough night

[covert coyote]

The trick is just to have the pallies BoF us

[trim hound]

the mechanic was precisely engineered to be slightly annoying for bursting fury warriors

[fringe vale]

Yes, but using ur bs for dispell is hard trolling, ask ur rl to designate ur fellow ret pally to drop u freedom before each set of webs

[feral ivy]

anyone know what addon or wa making some of my keys on my keyboard not work? (only in WOW)

[fringe vale]

Well, there is no reason to get yelled at there, it only shows ur raidlead has fucking 0 idea of how warrior plays that fight and also says that he pretty much did 0 research of the fight based on his comp prio to the progress. Hes pretty dumb also bc the solution is to give you BoF before each web, he cannot ask you to not use ur cds when u gotta use ur cds to kill parasites…

[rocky locust]

Any historians here know what weapon(s) were BiS for DPS (Fury) Warriors when Tier 2 came out?

[smoky vale]

prob just look at wcl for classic

[warm crag]

i didnt need freedom what are you on abt

[smoky vale]

^

if you get mechanic jump

or do your burst before you get targeted

[warm crag]

how are you handling your cooldowns where you are pressing them at a point where webs go out

[fringe vale]

Yeah sure but it happens sometimes when u are butsting and it gets insta dispelled

[warm crag]

it never happens if you play properly

[rocky locust]

What raid was T2?

[smoky vale]

i think did 40 pulls yestdwrday

[warm crag]

do you have a clip of when it happened idk what point that would even happen at

[smoky vale]

only happened to me 1 time

[smoky vale]

no clue

[fringe vale]

It happened to me like 2-3 times, i have no clip

[smoky vale]

its such a minimal problem for warrior

[fringe vale]

Normally webs go out u leap

[smoky vale]

just jump out

[fringe vale]

Im pretty sure it happened to me couple of times when popping cds

Like mechanic got delayed ot idk etf happened but eggs where vreakinf adds coming and webs happened for some reason

[warm crag]

idk get me a clip i have literally never been webbed before my cds before

[smoky vale]

i can find one sec

[latent hedge]

the only time where that's happened for me was egg break into stand still transmitter and even then it was just barely enough to happen

[smoky vale]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxcpHVt8CxcUB2CHXyxghtUPTPQt_rchqE?si=j1PUCxx1FO0Ldcq7

[warm crag]

why arent you spinning there

[smoky vale]

bc im bad

oh

i was waiting for of

ik why i was waiting looking at it now

i had to move my ava to 1-2 so my opener was ava reck roar bs

which delays my of by a lot

i should be doing reck roar of ramp bs ava

[eternal sundial]

this is criminal

DO NOT spend just rip bs

[eternal sundial]

opener should be reck charge roar of ramp > stuff ramp ava ramp full bs

from my exp

can cancel BS on 130 rage if ur a bitch

[smoky vale]

wdym rip bs

i had to no?

im dyslexic

yeah you are right

[tidal plinth]

In multitarget with Thane, Wowhead says CB > BB and the APL says BB > CB. Does it matter ?

[smoky vale]

can you show the specific apl line

[clever belfry]

not really

realistically you press both anyway so 🤷‍♂️

[smoky vale]

i think i would prio bb if you can cleave with vc

[tidal plinth]

In the ST APL, seems like the prio matters with Bloodcraze but seems ignored in MT

alright

[smoky vale]

rb/cb are also less of your damage in thane

[covert blaze]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[feral ivy]

destroying 12's im so happy i got inv instead of doing my own key

[smoky vale]

man stop

[restive granite]

i dont want to doom but fury is feeling really bad for me in high M+ where you pull around cds with gigapulls

anyone else or just skill issue

previous expansions felt way better from what i remember

[smoky vale]

just target cap moment

becomes more obvious the more that you play classes that are less target capped than you

[steady spruce]

Hey new fury warrior here i have reckless and avatar macro'd together. Thats fine right?

[calm mantle]

I took a bout a month break, do we play mountain for m+ now?

[whole yacht]

For higher ish keys, yes

[calm mantle]

if I'm still doing around 7's do I just stick to slayer?

[whole yacht]

Like a 6. Where everything dies instantly. Take slayer.

For like 9-10 or higher. Thane

[eternal sundial]

not full optimal but workable

[ionic bone]

on rasha mythic, do we always hold cds for adds

[gleaming juniper]

most top logs first avatar is used on first add set

I have been doing that and doing well

[covert blaze]

@eternal sundial hello psyduckphil, what embellishment are you running? also is arms or fury better in the war within? thank you

[smoky vale]

@covert blaze @eternal sundial hello zhai and phil, is smf viable? also is colo or slayer better in the war within? thank you

[vocal fog]

Guys i heard legion remix is inc

[summer quail]

yea but no legion class design

[covert blaze]

the difference is not big enough to care tbh

unless stuff lives a long time

[smoky vale]

zhai

please respond to my messag

[gleaming juniper]

i think the answer is do u like to spin or clap

[smoky vale]

I NEEED HLEP

[velvet bluff]

BB for sure

u want the dot on errythang

[vocal fog]

I need all the artifact appearances even the hiddens ones too , hope it buyable with the bronze

[velvet bluff]

yes

[heavy dock]

If they can bring artifact weapons with their traits somehow it would be cool af

[pearl sequoia]

they probably will

[ionic bone]

Why would u desync avatar and reck

[summer quail]

some classes have changed alot, so i doubt it

[heavy dock]

Hey im sure no one would mind broken traits on top of the class

Like mop had the gems

[summer quail]

yea i mean more in the sense that some of the traits would be really garbage now or not work

so they would need to be reworked

[heavy dock]

A yea sure

I want my giga odyn fury back

And old massacre talent

And 99 stack jugg xD

[summer quail]

99 stack jugg was gigacringe, small amount of downtime and you got gigafucked. yes i know the argus video is legendary but still

[sudden marsh]

can someone help me understand combat logs? ...do multiple icons of an ability show multiple applications or is that just a glitch?

[modest condor]

go to casts instead of damage

[serene stone]

anyone know why novix runs double radiant power weaon enchants over something like double radiant of the depth or double stonebound artistry, or even something like 1 stonebound and 1 depth?

[modest condor]

rampage shows up multiple times per cast because blizzard coding

[sudden marsh]

that makes more sense thank you

[serene stone]

noxiv*

[modest condor]

probably better off asking him, he's streaming right now

[serene stone]

he did actually anser me

[gleaming juniper]

lol when did i say anything about that?

[lilac plinth]

3k ppl 💪🏼💪🏼

Finally

[gleaming juniper]

as in saving the full go for adds

[queen linden]

Didn't realize there was an aug until after the run. and here I thought I did well 😦

[haughty vault]

got a question for Fury warrior.. does it matter what ilvl or damage weapon is on OFF hand? or you can put any weapon on any hand .. ? just wondering

[modest condor]

ofcourse it matters

offhand weapons give stats too

[haughty vault]

what i mean is should i put the higher ilvl on my main hand or off hand

or it doesnt matter

[modest condor]

mainhand

[haughty vault]

gotcha ;]

[wanton mirage]

So what is the ans

[ornate gust]

Congrats

[limber oar]

Anyone have a spell reflection macro to say "spell reflection up" when cast but NOT say it if you misclick spell reflection when its off cd?

[amber shuttle]

on +10 mists, do we still hold cds until big add is down? or send it on pull?

[sudden tusk]

wait til add is down

you can use like odyns

but save your big burst for when the thing breaks

[amber shuttle]

ok yeah that's what i thought. but someone got mad i was holding dps/cds

thank you

[limber oar]

on first boss?

[amber shuttle]

first boss yeah

[limber oar]

ya just hold big dps, Ingra takes more dmg when you knock the tree fella down

[radiant kettle]

Critcake has a weak aura linked in his discord that does this.

[limber oar]

:o

ok ty!

[hidden kite]

U want a weakaura

[radiant plank]

Any dracthyr enjoyer know how to stay in human form

during combat

as warrior drac

[fair star]

bizentein has that weak aura in his disc i think

[fair star]

i dont think u can

maybe im wrong

[radiant plank]

@oblique trail you know

you killed ansurek as dragon

warrior

[summer quail]

uhh i think it's like a toggle? idk i don't play scaly

[tender seal]

Why u guys going dragon

[summer quail]

they are big noobers

[sour frigate]

i wanted a dragon race since wotlk...

but i hoped for draconid not this scaley thing

[radiant plank]

4fun

[desert cloud]

Ain't nothing fun abt beeing a weirdo

[radiant plank]

[desert cloud]

[oblique trail]

Press chosen identity

It's in the general tab

Make sure its toggled off (iirc)

[gleaming siren]

you want it to look like this

@oblique trail balls

[oblique trail]

[sour frigate]

balls

[radiant plank]

🐐

[errant vessel]

lebron james'

[clever belfry]

yellow abuser

[flat river]

Real

[covert void]

a lot switching to radiant / stonebound I see? simming really well now for me.

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1298369463153987614/kO1CS.gif

[covert void]

I assume because there's more less focused on raid now? and building for m+

[warm crag]

stop this at once

[clever belfry]

not enough powa

[tender seal]

@oblique trail i saw ur kill on queen - on the intemission platform u got yeeted off, but managed to save jump back on platform - was that just dractyr jump or ?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[clever belfry]

dwagon >

[tender seal]

Very handy i guess.. just a regular jump ?

[oblique trail]

You just tap space in the air

[clever belfry]

its just like DH glide

[oblique trail]

It's like when you glide as a DH

[tender seal]

Sheesh... Thats smort

Did u plan for it to happen or was it just something you did on a whim?

[oblique trail]

I was planning around being able to glide the wrests ever since swapping

[clever belfry]

this is safe 👍

makes 2nd platform nicer to play

[oblique trail]

Knew you could since I've played DH for a long time, and Wrest is just like any other pull-in mechanic

[clever belfry]

u get to bladestorm insta when adds arrive, dont have to sit on it

without drac u gotta hold a sec to make sure ure still spinning as wrest finishes

[smoky vale]

can you not charge some of the wrests?

[clever belfry]

i would not trust charge for wrest

[oblique trail]

Charging outside of platforms are omega inconsistent

[clever belfry]

as soon as u go over the edge u cant charge

[smoky vale]

ah

[warm crag]

it's convenient but don't feel pressured into racechanging for this mechanic specifically

[oblique trail]

Intervene is also an option if you want an extra tool to avoid the pull-in

[clever belfry]

fury warrior moment

[oblique trail]

Spriest S2M video moment

[clever belfry]

banezi i think

u should play

[smoky vale]

p3 moment?

[clever belfry]

short roar as solo warrior

[oblique trail]

why

[clever belfry]

funny p3 add dam

[oblique trail]

Wdym funny p3 add dam

[clever belfry]

roar does as much as bladestorm

[oblique trail]

The 2nd set gets lusted

[clever belfry]

to an add set

[warm crag]

between leaping and bs immuning and just walking you have enough tools to deal with every wrest

[oblique trail]

That add set is not living

[clever belfry]

just lobby for p1 lust

👍

[eternal sundial]

Intervene terrorism too

[oblique trail]

Right but you'd also have to weigh the fact that I lose a lot of strength from talenting Uproar

[clever belfry]

dont care

[oblique trail]

I will not do it

freak

[clever belfry]

i think ure weak for this

[oblique trail]

And I think you're freakishly freaky

[clever belfry]

okay and

[eternal sundial]

Pad more crybaby bonfi

[oblique trail]

It's not pad if they have to die

[clever belfry]

man good thing no one was dead on our kill

[oblique trail]

That was the same as our first kill

[clever belfry]

me with the essence some doofus dropped under the boss while i have the debuff :

[oblique trail]

The 0:02 goes hard

[south kayak]

what boss is this

[oblique trail]

ulthrax

[warm crag]

good thing the boss is still difficult and the spirit of the fight is preserved

[clever belfry]

the funny big spider

[clever belfry]

tbf the hardest part of p3

was removed for anyone outside top 5

anyway

but i agree the nerfs shouldve been more gradual

and the boss didnt deserve to be shot like that

[gleaming siren]

Big diff between removing the hardest part

and removing literally half the prog points

Went from a genuinely pretty enjoyable fight to prog to just... rolling over in one night once you see P3

[clever belfry]

imma b real

[warm crag]

Woke wow players that want the fight NERFED into OBLIVION!

[clever belfry]

this nerf was just as large as the current one

however it really needed more gradual nerfs instead of this butchering again

(like they said theyd do after fyrakk 👍)

[warm crag]

i wonder how many pulls this new iteration would take

<100?

[clever belfry]

ehh

doubt

it just fell over so much cause people like my guild saw 200 pulls of p1

then the new p1 is trivial

[warm crag]

p1 is easier with less web sniping and rot damage and less people have to learn how to pop

[clever belfry]

if u get there now its not trivial.

[smoky vale]

court is a harder boss now right?

[clever belfry]

certainly a less fun one 🤷‍♂️

[warm crag]

p2 prog is identical to before ig

and then p3 is a one night ordeal

[clever belfry]

technically easier

cause u can reassign people on gates

[gleaming siren]

MUCH easier

you take 20% less damage in P2 basically

[clever belfry]

• you get there a lot more often

just more reps more ez

[gleaming siren]

disagree

[clever belfry]

first iteration was legit not killable unless u had 50% more hps

than u do now

?

ur healers needed to be properly inhuman to be able to do that fight

[gleaming siren]

Healing wise maybe

overall gameplay implications

less so

[clever belfry]

yeah but if ure just dead

that doesnt matter

[gleaming siren]

but that's more of a reaction to the Pres nerfs

[clever belfry]

🤷‍♂️

[warm crag]

like claiming they dont instadispell despite instadispelling every time?

[smoky vale]

do you think its worth to sr if you are to get hit by a swirly on brood or to use it for debuff to break an egg

idk how to take less damage on brood

[gleaming siren]

Dont get hit by swirlies

Is the easy way to take less damage

[clever belfry]

with timer change u sometimes have to eat swirly

[gleaming siren]

you're not a DK you don't get to consistently soak swirlies

[clever belfry]

cause they spawn toward the end of the cast

[smoky vale]

i cant though when im planted on egg

[clever belfry]

🤷‍♂️

[gleaming siren]

Yea I mean

if you are on egg break

[clever belfry]

the first set of swirls u can move out and in

[smoky vale]

its so cancer

[gleaming siren]

and a swirlie spawns on you

you press everything

if you die you die

[clever belfry]

but its super unlikely u get more than 1 on u

even if u die

your circle is on ur corpse

the EGG WILL BREAK

[smoky vale]

ah

thursday

[warm crag]

theres legit not much to mitigate lol

[smoky vale]

i got hit by 3 in 1

like wtf

[warm crag]

i dont even remember spellreflecting

[smoky vale]

that fight feels so bad

somehow

we were regressing in ccing adds

[gleaming siren]

you can SR tank explosions

but they also generally dont hurt a lot

[smoky vale]

let me find what j took most damage to

[clever belfry]

If tanks are playing okay ye

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N9PQ7tLrvFkf1Xwm#boss=2919&difficulty=5&wipes=1&type=damage-taken&source=15

like ig having egg debuff just cranks me

[gleaming siren]

throwback to our first reclear

[clever belfry]

average x3 dissy

[smoky vale]

i had one of those

[oblique trail]

There are multiple times in the pulls where you get hit twice at the same time

[warm crag]

2x fury 3x frost was not it man

[oblique trail]

Stop stacking with people

[summer quail]

i've not looked at the log, but are you getting hit by the other persons egg buff

[gleaming siren]

sec I can clip that

[smoky vale]

yeah

[gleaming siren]

https://warcraftrecorder.com/link/0a7d3ba1-1016-420e-beb0-a804c16c20c7

[oblique trail]

Like this is one pull

[gleaming siren]

this is when you just accept youre dead

[oblique trail]

3 out of 4 egg breaks you stacked with someone

[summer quail]

yeah, that makes sense then

[gleaming siren]

(press everything not like me)

[smoky vale]

wtf do i do if bro sits ontop of me

[clever belfry]

65 hits of swirl

in 30 pulls

[smoky vale]

yep

[clever belfry]

is criminal behaviour

[summer quail]

press sr and dstance

[gleaming siren]

you need to average <1 really as anything but DK

[oblique trail]

Use health pot if this does happen

There's no other place really to use it other than moments like that

[summer quail]

IV

[smoky vale]

worst part is we arent reclearing

MANANNANAA

[clever belfry]

and what banezi said is real
you only stack with people if u would miss the egg otherwise

[oblique trail]

huh

[clever belfry]

which is kinda removed with extended timer

[oblique trail]

are you extending brood??

[smoky vale]

YESS MAN

[gleaming siren]

huh

[clever belfry]

🚶‍♂️

this should be u

[summer quail]

dude reclearing first 4 bosses takes so little time for big value... your rl is an idiot

[smoky vale]

yeah idk

[oblique trail]

At worst extend if you're deep into Kyveza/starting Court and you're a 2 day guild

[flat river]

Give him head bonk

[oblique trail]

Otherwise just reclear

[smoky vale]

we are 2 day

what do i do just look other guild

or just give and learn dk to push

my dk is rising

[summer quail]

probably, unless you have alot of attachment to that guild. like if the social side is great etc

[smoky vale]

best part of that day is

[gleaming siren]

No reason to make bad decisions as 2 day guild

[smoky vale]

i got yelled for dying whwn people made inf more mistakes during early prog

[gleaming siren]

Honestly if youre just gunning for CE at any cost at this point I think you extend after Brood

but you're also getting LATE for CE now

[eternal sundial]

I think extend post kyveza is alright too

We rekilled brood each week till kyveza died

[gleaming siren]

If you haven't killed Brood yet CE is very much in danger

[eternal sundial]

Incredibly so

[gleaming siren]

speaking more as 2 day guild at the level where reclear would likely eat a full/three-quarter raid day

cause people tend to forget how bosses work in a matter of 7 days

[flat river]

Real

[smoky vale]

if we were 3 day

[clever belfry]

kinda need another court nerf to get CE imma be honest

[smoky vale]

this boss dies weeks ago

[clever belfry]

weeks hurts to read

[smoky vale]

anda

[eternal sundial]

We 2 day, but arent insane so we did 4>prog and rekilled brood 2 times or so, extending for court now

[gleaming siren]

being 2 day is not an excuse

[smoky vale]

we are like nearing 200 pulls

idk

[flat river]

Make court only need 1 web for mythic too

[clever belfry]

they haven't reduced it to 2 webs yet have they

[gleaming siren]

Extending for court as 2 day guild is sensible especially now

[oblique trail]

It's still 3

[gleaming siren]

nah

[clever belfry]

Bruh

[gleaming siren]

they will

very soon

[flat river]

Stupid ngl

[smoky vale]

soon

[flat river]

1-1-3

[clever belfry]

Yea they will

[eternal sundial]

I think we are on good pace

[gleaming siren]

for CE? yea

[eternal sundial]

Both kyveza and eggman sub 150

[smoky vale]

MAN

[eternal sundial]

RL is very well prepped, roster is good cant complain

[smoky vale]

BOSSS NEEDDS TO EXPLODE

[gleaming siren]

im just glad it's over now that Ansurek isn't fun to prog anymore

[smoky vale]

i cant wait for tuesday

extension into same people dying

[eternal sundial]

Are they nerfing it?

Oh lmao

[clever belfry]

I think ansurek curve for new arrivals at the boss is gonna be a bit more reasonable now schmidi

[flat river]

XD

[smoky vale]

also what am i supposed to do

[clever belfry]

cause it was really p1 heavy honestly

[flat river]

When is new season btw

[smoky vale]

when tanks have spider aggro for like 4 seconds then the spider loses aggro and clobbers me instead

[gleaming siren]

it was

I'm not saying

it won't be fun for new arrivals

but it stopped being fun for me

[clever belfry]

But p3 got unnecessarily dogged

[gleaming siren]

when 3 web blades

[flat river]

Your tanks aggro spiders?

[eternal sundial]

P1 being disgusting seems to be more and more common, ie fyrakk (can argue for sark p1 but meh..)

[flat river]

[gleaming siren]

P1 feels like slow motion now

literally

[smoky vale]

i think i have a clip of me

[clever belfry]

p1 is meme if u did the prev version ye

But u learned rules how to deal with the harder phase

[gleaming siren]

sure ye

not denying that

[smoky vale]

getting aggro after like 5 seconds and going boom

[flat river]

I miss fyrakk, was a fun raid

[eternal sundial]

Tindral jumpscare

[flat river]

Remember when he bugged in prepatch

[clever belfry]

I liked progging tindral

[flat river]

He would stay in the air and cast his aoe

[eternal sundial]

Yes but you are playing with human beings

[clever belfry]

Was i?

[flat river]

REAL

[gleaming siren]

Rogue

[eternal sundial]

Compared to what i got

[clever belfry]

had schmidi and spongie in raid

iek

[flat river]

:o

[gleaming siren]

Okay

we're both

not human

but was playing Aug

[eternal sundial]

I retract my Statement

[summer quail]

same but i wasn't on flying duty

[clever belfry]

Yeah and i farmed on aug

[eternal sundial]

Andus is dracthyr not human

[gleaming siren]

Farmed a clip

[clever belfry]

Neither was i

[eternal sundial]

Flying was not bad

[clever belfry]

i was buffing my fellow men

[smoky vale]

i need a run back of amir

NOW

[clever belfry]

i flew for all of reclear in other guild + awakened

🤷‍♂️

not bad

[summer quail]

i'm directionally impaired so it would have been a disaster

[smoky vale]

we need df s3 classic

NOW

[clever belfry]

?

no

[eternal sundial]

Only if i get lego insta

[gleaming siren]

we need to stop talking about classic

classic is bad

mmkay

[clever belfry]

Real schmidi

[eternal sundial]

If it was bad

[clever belfry]

Allimania arc

[eternal sundial]

Why are they making classic classic

[oblique trail]

because money

[gleaming siren]

I didnt get my Blazefury Medallion from Kazzak yesterday

therefore classic bad

[flat river]

When is classic classic classic

[clever belfry]

i think schmidi is raul or ingrid

[flat river]

Cant wait

[oblique trail]

If it's bad then why am I leveling

[flat river]

Leveling is fun

Endgame not so much

[smoky vale]

nice loe

[gleaming siren]

I'm Dimitri D. Demolition

[oblique trail]

it really is not if you ask me

[flat river]

In the early parts

[eternal sundial]

Banezi likes playing hard games so classic wow raid is perfect

[flat river]

Like till lvl 30

Then its boring

[south kayak]

[eternal sundial]

Most challenging content in wow

[gleaming siren]

Classic raids are harder than retail

on my mental

[smoky vale]

real

[oblique trail]

If anything the leveling experience has just been mentally draining due to how dumb some things are

[summer quail]

looking forward to MoP classic. was when i started playing but didn't play warrior then and heard mop fury was great

[oblique trail]

Every mob in the game while leveling has to have some ability that makes them awful to fight

[flat river]

Recklessness 30 min cd

[eternal sundial]

Collect Page 6

[oblique trail]

And killing 30 mobs for 8 items

Also very cool

[south kayak]

Apparently not all zebras have hooves

[flat river]

XD

REAL

[clever belfry]

farmed rogue player

@gleaming siren i think spongie is cliff

[gleaming siren]

He really is

@warm crag spongeuwu in classic fresh?

[clever belfry]

but we need a proper horst man

[gleaming siren]

What are you

I can be whoever really

[clever belfry]

im an elf priest ofc

[gleaming siren]

This you?

[clever belfry]

Yes

i mean no

Athinuviel I'lavé Thuramandil Sinatar F'enviel Entirethzea

[smoky vale]

just to make sure second wind does 0 on brood right?

[oblique trail]

Correct, the only real application this season would be 3rd boss in City of Threads (afaik)

[gleaming siren]

EU slacking for HoF

gg

We need 20 sunday and 20 monday

to fill

[warm crag]

wtf?

[clever belfry]

cliff

[warm crag]

only if we roleplay the full thing

[clever belfry]

Then u don't come up until ep6 or w/e

[warm crag]

Fuck!!!

[flat river]

When will they add warrior healer smh

Does someone have an update version of spell reflect

Cause my WA doesn't show everything it can reflect

[smoky vale]

copy the link in the info tab

[flat river]

Like you can reflect root from last boss on CoT

[smoky vale]

yes

[flat river]

And balls from first boss in CoT too

[smoky vale]

no

[flat river]

But doesn't show it

[flat river]

Yes

[smoky vale]

like the application