fury

[sinful nebula]

so slayer might be better overall is what i’m hearing

[noble elm]

I’m doing 1.7-2m overall as thane with the sustain build

[iron portal]

things might not live long enough for thane in +10

for group you are in

[violet moss]

I'm doing 5.5 mill per sec on big packs with slayer. idk about thane

[molten spire]

Slayer feels easier to play imo

[iron portal]

Play what you want

[median dust]

I don't normally get kicked, but I do normally end up telling SHamans they can drop wind totem on CoH 2nd boss, and other tech to 3k IO meta classes 🙂 Kinda crazy you have to tell people tech on 13+

[molten spire]

The difference is small enough that I don't it matters for most things

[noble elm]

Depends on the pack, burst build I’m hitting 5-10m with thane, slayer is pretty much the same

[clear hill]

Yeah that happened to me last night using slayer on a big pack in wake, like 5.2m

[molten spire]

how geared are you that you get 10m ?

with thane

[noble elm]

530 w/ 2 mythic weapons

[median dust]

AM Thane Zerker build is treating me well. I'll prob go back to RA though, idk.

[clear hill]

I’m at 624 avg overall

[noble elm]

I’m only seeing numbers like that on massive packs

Like a quad pull, or pulls with non elites

Usually it’s 4-5/6m, like the first pull in siege I usually do 5m as thane

Also fury damage is really front loaded so if your other dps are doodoo your dps plummets after your initial burst and mobs live

[violet moss]

I average 2-2.5 mill on small packs, 4-6 mill on big packs and 800k-1.2mil ST

[noble elm]

I tank normally and I try to invite warriors and 90% of the time I’m like “hey man you can spell reflect that”

[clear hill]

this is very true, better group dps improves your own because you don’t have time to drop the average 😅

[median dust]

Tell me what pull you're hitting 10m? NW first pull might get that if you stack your roar, but post nerfs I don't see anyone hitting that.

[final birch]

why not

10m is not insane

people are bursting 20 there

[noble elm]

The first pull in arak all the way to the mini boss I bursted like 10m

Pretty big stone vault pull too you can send on, but haven’t run that in a while

Few pulls with little doodoo non elites in city

[violet moss]

I never seen any class burst 10m in TWW..

But i've not done higher than 10s so it's probably why

[final birch]

ive seen all 3 dps burst 15m+

when I tanked nw

highest ive seen is prob 20 no aug in my key

[noble elm]

I think people really underestimate how much damage you can send given the right circumstance, comp, and pull sizing

I did 6m dps as prot war last night on the last trash pull of grim batol

Without an Aug that’s probably 4.5, 5m?

[violet moss]

I would probably belive it if my tanks don't insta die on big pulls and leave every time 😄

[median dust]

We are talking about Fury here. Yes, I hit 10m a good bit on Pally/Shaman

[final birch]

that doesnt make sense

[keen hedge]

Wait for aggro, gonna do big one.. dies leaves 😀basic

[violet moss]

We were, but i said ''any class''

[final birch]

I said other classes can burst 20m

[median dust]

How does it not make sense?

[final birch]

10m on fury is not unrealistic

[violet moss]

yup 🤣

their reaction is always the same

wha happen

[clear hill]

I can see bursting that high in a lower key because you can yolo pull more stuff because you can cheese interrupts/mechanics and just pump. I don’t see people doing that on 10+ though. If so you’d have to be like 635 avg ilevel and have a beast tank.

[noble elm]

It’s not like you’re going around as fury doing 10m dps every pull - if the pull is right and your cds are aligned then yes

But it’s the exception not the rule

[final birch]

missing crests this week

so yeah

[noble elm]

If you’re pulling 2 packs a clip in 12+ you’re not timing keys and if a tank can’t survive a 4 pack pull in a 12 that’s a tank issue

[rotund ginkgo]

@final birch did a 12 rn just to kinda homework it

on stonevault

bit better

[final birch]

idk what people should be doing in sv butg

grats

[rotund ginkgo]

i got no clue either

[noble elm]

The higher the keys generally the bigger the pulls you need to do

Pull efficiency is what makes and breaks a key

[rotund ginkgo]

bruh is eating WELL

[final birch]

im 639 next week

guaranteed

[rotund ginkgo]

bruh

[final birch]

[rotund ginkgo]

im far away from that lmao

[median dust]

Some of the best warriors on here at 635+ are only hitting 7m tops. Clips all over youtube of them doing 13+ keys. Nobody is hitting that as Fury consistently. I don't want to post any screen shots of big pulls because that will put them on blast I feel. But I'm not seeing it ANYWHERE. So unless somebody can show me post nerfs a clip of that number I call bs lol

[modest condor]

people pull higher in +15s than in +5s lol

[violet moss]

Do i switch out highlighted trinket with opressive?

[final birch]

what ilv are u ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

wym

i just did a 9m pull

on a 12

[median dust]

SHow me

[rotund ginkgo]

i mean the pull is over

i cant

lol

1st pull SV u can reach peak 10m

[final birch]

u can on logs but why bother

[rotund ginkgo]

it finishes at like 4-5 maybe

but its doable lmao

[final birch]

takes 2 min to check themselves

no point in proving wrong at this point

[median dust]

"takes 2 min" to show it too

[final birch]

if he considers 10m to be some unrealistic imaginary number

let him be

[violet moss]

Damn xd, he just wanna see

[noble elm]

Should I inflate my dps to something more unreasonable

Once I did 25m dps on a pack

[keen hedge]

The best is when they sprint to narnia and leave healer like 30km behind.

[median dust]

I can literally post 5 clips right now of top warriors not capping 7m on 13+ keys lust pulls in physical comps

[final birch]

@rotund ginkgo gg

[noble elm]

You’re conflating

[final birch]

back to minecraft

[noble elm]

There are specific scenarios where you’re gonna burst that high and like I said the vast majority of the time you’re not

[rotund ginkgo]

RIP

[rotund ginkgo]

okay whats ur statement then

warriors cant burst past 7m isnt the same as "most of the time, warriors wont get past 7m"

theyre two different sentences

[modest condor]

noxiv plays without OF so he's never gonna burst 10mil outside of NW

[rotund ginkgo]

noxiv is a fuckign enigma

[final birch]

whats up with no OF

[median dust]

He didn't play OF last Siege 16

[rotund ginkgo]

OF just doesnt hit so hard

[median dust]

He played Zerker

[rotund ginkgo]

2 VC is just bigger ST

[final birch]

lemme check diffy

[noble elm]

That in specific scenarios with the burst build you will see large numbers, over 10m potentially if the pull is big enough and you send everything. I have a few examples of where I’ve seen it

[restive peak]

I don't play OF often anymore either

It's slightly better overall for a pretty big ST loss

[median dust]

This is exactly what clout says. But it's fine

[median dust]

Same

[molten spire]

What build you folks going for?

[final birch]

?

[molten spire]

AM?

[restive peak]

And bosses are like 5-6m at the higher keys, so if you can speed up 35-0 on them all it's definitely solid

[median dust]

dropped it a wile ago

[restive peak]

No, RA thane

[noble elm]

I’m pretty sure no one is playing OF on high keys

[molten spire]

Without spear as well?

[final birch]

if you want to see how much fury can burst go to wclogs

[keen hedge]

Are u guys having problem with raider.io addon? Got 200-300 world fps. Dung average 150. But when i got that addon in m+ i got insane fps spikes.. sometimes like 30ish fps.

[final birch]

I'm not gonna bother enough to dig out for you

[noble elm]

Well mostly no one

[final birch]

you're just spreading misinformation

w.e

[restive peak]

Burst means fuckall anyway

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah, thats fine and correct

[final birch]

yes it means shit

but whole argument is about burst

[restive peak]

You're never gonna match an enh sham/fdk, who cares

[median dust]

How am I spreading misinformation? lol.. You are spouting numbers with no proof

Stop

[final birch]

XD

[restive peak]

Burst matters in low keys, it doesn't kill shit faster in high keys

[rotund ginkgo]

what's orck's argument then?

[final birch]

insane

[rotund ginkgo]

OK BUT LINC MY NUMBERS ARENT AS HIGH AS ENH

[violet moss]

onlyfans?

[rotund ginkgo]

i think we should be nerfed

[restive peak]

And they never will be big dawgie

[rotund ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[final birch]

so he plays warlords ig

[restive peak]

I'm so bored w this season I'm playing league rn, please kill me

[noble elm]

You should lean fully into warrior title handicap and try to get title as arms

[restive peak]

Arms sucks, fight me

[violet moss]

arms is pretty gay ngl

[rotund ginkgo]

@final birch is arms prio better than fury?

if yes, by how much

if not, by how much is it worse

[final birch]

no clue

can check

[median dust]

Wouldn't mind Arms if it could live as consistently as Fury

[rotund ginkgo]

it can

[final birch]

2.4% st gain no of

[restive peak]

ADHD brain prefers fury, it goes brrrrrrr

[noble elm]

Arms feels like mud in keys

[violet moss]

BRR BRR

[noble elm]

Feels very slow

[final birch]

nah arms cant live fury cant burst 10m

[exotic root]

Wow players when things aren’t completely binary

[violet moss]

Arms weak, only 1 arm, fury use both arms

[median dust]

Dont be mad. relax.

[restive peak]

There's so much to these comments anyway, like are we discussing R1 keys or weekly 10s?

[exotic root]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-lies-gif-7285961314818952073

[restive peak]

Cuz you could take half your talent points off and run a shield and time 10s

[exotic root]

I already do

[restive peak]

And your overall in pug keys is semi at the mercy of your tank

[restive peak]

Giga chad

[exotic root]

I take half of my talent points and put them into the prot tree

[restive peak]

Tanking gross

[violet moss]

We're discussing getting 10mill burst dps on high keys with onlyfans

[exotic root]

Tanking funge

[restive peak]

OnlyFans burst can get pretty high if you're pent up

[violet moss]

true&real

[final birch]

@rotund ginkgo

[exotic root]

[rotund ginkgo]

sec

[final birch]

havent touched arms in keys in tww so just going off sims

[rotund ginkgo]

in key

rn

[final birch]

but arms has shit prio wtf

[exotic root]

what are you using for your metric

[sinful charm]

Bro what's with people not following basic mechanics this expansion

[exotic root]

st sim on aoe build?

[final birch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/haKMwvhxub6XYGKXxjFdRC/simc

[exotic root]

kk

[final birch]

u use more cleave in aoe so cant just look at st sim on aoe build

took some random build from gelly

could prob get more prio with BI and some diff talents in general but yeah

[exotic root]

yah

that’s the right way to do it

just wanted to make sure u weren’t being monkeyge

[modest condor]

imagine talking about m+ when you could be farming hundreds of thousands of gold by fishing in deadwind pass

[exotic root]

?

what do you think im doing

[modest condor]

lol

http://puu.sh/KiF7W/11559f00f5.png

[final birch]

why are people buying this

what is the reasoning

[modest condor]

new secret

idk why people are paying thousands for them tho

like just go there and fish for a couple of minutes

[final birch]

oke

got it

[median dust]

It's for the new housing expansion

[final birch]

how many are u getting per hour

[sinful charm]

guide, stepping out of M+ mfers do not know how to move out of shit this expansino

[modest condor]

like 15-20 or something per hour

[violet moss]

what the fuck is OF can someone tell me, i want big dps as well

[final birch]

seems okay

at 5k per fish

[modest condor]

you need some levels in classic fishing tho

[final birch]

gonna plummet probs

when people learn

[modest condor]

it already plummeted

[final birch]

man

my guild is trolling me

[modest condor]

it started at 20k, not 5k

[final birch]

because I leveled every single expansion of engi/alch

[median dust]

OdFury

[modest condor]

it's down to like sub-3k now

[exotic root]

She go furious on my odyn til I burst

[final birch]

my classic fishing is probs maxed

[violet moss]

Odyn's fury? XD

we calling that OF? XD

[median dust]

Yes

[violet moss]

aiaia

okok

[exotic root]

Awawa

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-squirrel-gif-10948256155380406181

[sinful charm]

Speccing into OF

[median dust]

I don't see a lot running it over 13's though. I dropped it a while ago.

[violet moss]

Man of class

Love me some OF

[modest condor]

[median dust]

Playing it in high keys feels sadje. Like an old GF who used to be fire, but now she's just a side piece.

[wraith wasp]

[sinful charm]

My sword damage has increased significantly since OF

[exotic root]

That’s typically how onlyfans get made yeah

[final birch]

facts

[clear hill]

damn this always happens when I’m at work

[final birch]

90% is the minority

[violet moss]

My ex's reputation got turned to ash when she specced OF

[wraith wasp]

Can't wait for PH to be in the game

[sinful charm]

How would Odyn's Fury affect her reputation?

[violet moss]

[exotic root]

https://tenor.com/view/jk-wink-jungkook-wink-gif-25018345

[median dust]

Your reading comprehension still sucks. lol the difference in what I "see" and what is still on the meta is two different things.

[feral ivy]

anyone else thinks SOB needa nerf the adds SMACK harder than the bosses

[sinful charm]

Which son of a bitch needs a nerf?

[final birch]

[exotic root]

How many other fury’s do you play with

Double fury keys

Let’s freaking go

[violet moss]

me myself and i

i'm probably the best fury

that's what the voices tell me

[sinful charm]

I play Pandaren.

You are automatically inferior

[violet moss]

https://tenor.com/view/orc-sadorc-zuug-gif-18395942

[runic pine]

So where do you see all these other Fury warriors?

[exotic root]

His visions

[median dust]

I don't play with anyone, but the latest keys I watched of Noxiv, and I believe Linc said he dropped it as well on his latest. Not saying it's right or wrong. Just what i've seen.

[runic pine]

And more important tf else are you taking?

[sinful charm]

They were revealed to me in a dream

[feral ivy]

all of the SOB in SOB lol

[wraith wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[rotund ginkgo]

tank died on pack rn

RIP 2MILL OVERALL

😠

[wraith wasp]

Oh no

Anyway

[violet moss]

flame him

or her

or it

whatever

[median dust]

provided recent sources

[sinful charm]

Never forget your words of gratitude

[flat river]

REAL

[rotund ginkgo]

@final birch did 1.9

13 rn

ara

[flat river]

ara ara?

UwU

[rotund ginkgo]

what's the sim here?

[final birch]

10t5min

shows overall damage and dmg to prio

[clever belfry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9iPjwY3J5oCwbz2XqzCk2n

guys new apl

[rotund ginkgo]

ah ic

[final birch]

120% gain

[summer crater]

Almost every enhancement I'm in pugs with sucks

[rotund ginkgo]

it's fury vs yourself i assume?

[rotund ginkgo]

WHAT? THE FOTM REROLLERS SUCK?

[clever belfry]

non

[final birch]

it's just arms sim

fury was like

[clever belfry]

the new one is the lower one

[final birch]

5.7m aoe 1,65 to prio

[median dust]

The best ones are the ones that have already marco'd in all caps "MY CD'S ARE UP"

But wont drop wind totem 2nd boss CoT

[final birch]

sims are not 100% factual but was just a reference point

[rotund ginkgo]

so they're kinda equal on prio?

[final birch]

if going just off sims

its not even close

[rotund ginkgo]

the thing u sent shows dummy 1 at like 1.6-1.7

OH

wait

[final birch]

but I havent touched arms outside of raid so far

[rotund ginkgo]

it reads at the top

nvm

i just opened dummy 1

[median dust]

Hitting slam feels bad. Didn't want to stick with a class where I had to hit that ability

Needs a new sound or something. Feels like i'm swinging a pillow

[wraith wasp]

You don't press Slam as Fury

[sinful charm]

Propaganda

[median dust]

They were talking about Arms

[sinful charm]

You use Slam right after using OF

[median dust]

No you Macro it in to Avatar

[grand verge]

What Percentage of your damage does execute , guys?

[sinful charm]

atleast 2

[sullen cloak]

on the ability fierce followthrough....is Bloodbath considered the same as Bloodthirst for the 20%

[storm rune]

I'd say exe is around under 5 in aoe, closer to double in ST for me

[sullen cloak]

meaning if blood thirst is bottom priority in single target , shouldnt oppertunist be betteR?

[median dust]

Grats @mossy fox nice kill brother

[sullen cloak]

can anyoe help on trhe Fierce followthrough question please

[young swan]

its not bottom priority

you always press CB > BB > ramp

and you almost always spend FF on BB

[sullen cloak]

yeah thats what i was wondering ...i never really press bloodthirst alwasy bloodbath but the ability says Bloodthirst thats all

[mossy fox]

THANKS FRIEND

[young swan]

unless if it says otherwise, assume anything that buffs bloodthirst also buffs bloodbath

[young swan]

such a wacky tier

[mossy fox]

ye for sure

didn't feel like anything honestly

4th pull tonight she died

[verbal rivet]

M Ansurek?

[mossy fox]

ye

[violet moss]

Have not had slam on my hotbar since S2 DF when i was just starting fury KEK

[verbal rivet]

Nice, good shit

How many pulls total?

[sullen cloak]

Thanks Xantaga

[violet moss]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-old-man-clint-clint-eastwood-ugh-gif-7506146

the sweat isreal

[oblique trail]

Kinda feared this

But also understandable

The boss had to get shot in some way

[verbal rivet]

I’m just sad they killed the double roots tbh

[oblique trail]

meh

That had no real bearing on the difficulty

If anything it was just really annoying for some classes

[fickle bluff]

yeah same
hype pop off when boss dies

[median dust]

Say that to the one priest in every random pug 10 yards behind the boss alone lol

[oblique trail]

Ok but I presumed we're talking about Mythic Ansurek

Not heroic

[median dust]

I was being sarcastic. I feel like every heroic pug i did this season there was like 1 holy priest in narnia getting rooted

[devout totem]

priest can fade the root away

[oblique trail]

hm

I don't play priest but I don't think they can 👍

[restive peak]

We started last night and reached intermission like 3 out of 6 pulls lol

But fuckit after silken hell I'm fine w it

[granite crypt]

Does spell reflect do damage when reflecting Silken Tomb

[fading sky]

lol facts

[oblique trail]

The person who made the assignment sheet is a priest player

So if that worked, I'm sure it would be included

👍

[median dust]

snare and root are not the same

[devout totem]

aight, mb

[teal pine]

Snare just means slow

[sudden tusk]

Court is the hardest boss now

[ornate gust]

We will start progressing Silken Court this week. I wonder if Fury is better than Arms for that fight. Any recommendations?

[sudden tusk]

Bet they remove a web and a dispel per set soon

Arms will do more boss damage but at this point it doesn't matter

[fading sky]

i mean thane is immortal so theres that

[ornate gust]

Thane for that fight? interesting.. checking logs

[fading sky]

why wouldnt u ? its 2 target a lot of the time no ?

[young swan]

it is

a lot of people still play slayer tho

[wraith wasp]

This guy knows

[iron portal]

smh

I wish i was the chosen one

[south kayak]

GZ!!

any good stuff

[wraith wasp]

Oh dude haste mastery plate helmet?

[unreal onyx]

boe

plate boe boots are also haste/mast

[cobalt sapphire]

I'm finding it hard to play anything besides thane for almost any content -- shit is too fun compared to the boring slayer variant

[young swan]

idk that I'd go that far

they both have their charm

and if it skewed on one direction or the other for all content id be kind of unhappy

[rotund ginkgo]

hit that 3.1k

[stuck plover]

hey, i m checking out the top m+ furys right now and their stats seem to be kinda all over the place. Is there a rough rule of thumb how much of each secondary stat one wants to have? i see some that have more haste than mastery but i cant imagine that being optimal right?

[young swan]

having the freedom to choose which u play depending on the situation is sick

[young swan]

no one has optimal stats yet

people play with what they have

[hard widget]

So close

Almost discount

[stuck plover]

ok thanks, assumed as much

[cobalt sapphire]

thunderclapping is almost always more fun

[stuck plover]

i got umbriss band and circle of bones in the vault. I assume theres not really a wrong choice here right? umbriss sims a bit better rn for me

[young swan]

I think umbriss band is just kind of better

there are other, better items with large haste budget for us

[median dust]

Dysnc or am I just poop?

[stuck plover]

makes sense, thanks

[young swan]

there was a thing facing you and the graphic isnt accurate

[median dust]

Confirmed I'm poop. Sad

[clear hill]

I saw someone with that this past Tuesday, it was the first time i’d seen it. Is that helm BIS now or what?

[iron portal]

Idk about bis but it is damn good amount of money if it drops , especially with socket

[clear hill]

Oh yeah for sure, I’d sell without question

[hardy gale]

Are the 11.1 balance patch notes available?

[median dust]

What about this?

😂

[young swan]

what balance patch notes

[median dust]

I feel like I have a whole folder of wtf clips to send to blizz lol

[safe cradle]

Is there a reason for the crafted axe over sword or is there no difference I saw that on a bis site too just not sure

[sullen dove]

Zero difference

[hardy gale]

That guy higher ilvl than me

[safe cradle]

Anyone have a hard time getting into m+ keys?

[south kayak]

WHy is the shaman tier set so bad

transmog wise

[hard widget]

I like to Chop my enemies rather than slash em

[safe cradle]

Okay chef

Little extra zug in it

[south kayak]

thoughts on shaman tier set transmog

[rotund ginkgo]

im now 80 rio away from cutoff

:3

slowly climbing up

[south kayak]

what's the cutoff

[rotund ginkgo]

3196

rn

[south kayak]

hmm

fuck that

[rotund ginkgo]

almost timed siege 14 and grim 14

siege was 50s off but was INCREDIBLY dirty run

grim was.. grim

[south kayak]

im 2640 and that's enough for me

[rotund ginkgo]

BASED

i joined a buncha ppl the other day

ran into them today

and they took me on

and apparently theyve been told by MULTIPLE people "wtf ur with ragish"

MULTIPLE people that blacklisted me/dislike me

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[south kayak]

lmao what

how

[rotund ginkgo]

just people ive played keys with over df i guess

or rather didnt wanna play keys with

lmao

in the semi high rio range

so they recognize the name etc

for example some dude i removed from friendlist cuz we never really spoke+he ALWAYS gave me excuses why i cant join keys he's in etc

so i just did it cuz i mean cba having him, takes up space + not really friendly behavior anyway

and he took it personally

[covert blaze]

toxin

[rotund ginkgo]

@covert blaze

[hard widget]

Im a scarecrow shaman

[hardy gale]

After it goes to 4.5%, what is the total dr this gives passively?

[flat river]

my shammy friend who got 2700 rating in 4 days

with a goofy ahh hand

xD

[rotund ginkgo]

i have a prot pally friend at 3250 that opened a priest

new to healing

he's 3140 on his priest within 7 days

3155 my bad

[south kayak]

nice gloves man

does this fella know 4p is a huge dps increase

[eternal sundial]

its a healer

[south kayak]

gg

[flat river]

xD

[eternal sundial]

doesnt matter

[south kayak]

thought it was enha

[eternal sundial]

open eyes

challenge

[flat river]

he does, he is cursed to never have a hand drop

[south kayak]

im in middle of raid alt tabbing

[south kayak]

just do brd normal fully

buy hand

profit?

literally free

[flat river]

nuh uh

[eternal sundial]

why would anyone ever do that garbo content

[south kayak]

im just saying

it's that easy

I should learn to heal on resto so i can try it out

[eternal sundial]

i healed keys on mine a bit

its ait

[south kayak]

how does it play

chain heal spam?

riptide spam?

[eternal sundial]

you place stupid totem

and if ppl are in it ur chain heal trucks

ur healing stream totem heals fuck tons

spend the key yelling at dps not bein in totem

[flat river]

well with my heal friend shammy

now i get invited to 12's

ez

friends with benefits

[median dust]

this is they way. You either get a pocket shaman healer or a pocket prot paladin. EZ key invites 13+

[marsh current]

So guys, what enchants do you play on weapons and why not crit? 😄

[molten spire]

resto is ez

put totems use chain heal

use cds

[latent gust]

prot paladins

are gods

[median dust]

They are. Ran a 13 Mists yesterday and the Prot Pally made the mind link a non mechanic on last boss. Everyone would run out but the paladin bubbled it lol. I was like... This is how it feels when I watch everyone run out when i'm targeted with Binds on the last boss NW. Pretty funny

[zinc rune]

Thinking about finally swapping to MT instead of slayer. Does anyone know where TC fits into the opener and rotation?

[drifting osprey]

Is Force of Magma (https://www.wowhead.com/item=231409/force-of-magma) actually good or a simtrap? it's simming higher at 619 than a 623 Ulg mace

[storm rune]

With no secondaries you'd probably only be using it in ST

[polar roost]

is this the usual fury experience? +10 sv

or i just suck?

[gleaming talon]

Prob because you thane

[whole yacht]

im confused on what exactly youre asking

[polar roost]

that ret is that far ahead

[hardy bluff]

yea

[south kayak]

sometimes yes sometimes no

but rets do more damage than warriors

[obtuse lintel]

thinking of crafting a cloak at 636 to put my second duskthread lining, but I already have 626 cloak of shattered sorrows. Is there a better slot to use for crafted?

[sinful charm]

Sometimes I like putting a Grim batol key into queue just to not accept anyone.

[hardy bluff]

belt boots bracers are a good slot

or your offpiece

[obtuse lintel]

i've got bracers and my belt is 619 socketed, obvious eventually I will pull a socket from the vault but I hope it takes a while lol. maybe boots is best

[whole yacht]

well. im fairly certain ret is just better in keys in general. so that might be why. it also could be rotational. you could be messing something up, and dont even know it.

[cunning igloo]

Are Delves in a cooked state right now? I just tried to run my friend whos like 590 through a T8 delve as 632 Fury and got absolutely stomped... every mob has 30 million hp and one hitting me??

I havent done them since m+ came out but now I have literally zero reason to ever do them again

I swapped to prot and painstakingly carried him through but we lost all the lives, my friend is distraught. I told him to just gear up using m+ because delves seem totally broken

[hardy bluff]

as prot you should take 0 dam and just win

just takes a while

[cunning igloo]

Its just insane to me to think that one of the main pillars of the game (or so they want) is completely undoable unless you have a full team

[paper robin]

It scales with your party. Try solo

[cunning igloo]

The whole point was that im way overgeared for it and was helping a friend who is low ilvl

Gonna just run keys with em like normal, idk why we even tried delves in the first place

[paper robin]

They really shouldn’t be that hard though. I haven’t ever done them in groups but I’m only like 625 and t8’s take like 8 minutes

[hardy bluff]

scaling fucks them bad

[sage karma]

sure love seeing enh sham just doing 20% more damage than me

and having more utility

what a stupid spec

[cunning igloo]

ever heard of Ret paladin?

playing that is just like playing a warrior but you actually get invited and get to play the game

[sage karma]

interestingly I've outdps'd all the ret paladins I've played with

but enh shamans just shit on me

[cunning igloo]

i shit on enh shamans on my 625 ret. does the same dps as 632 fury if not more

[sage karma]

enh gets nice ST dps too

tbf I'm 625 and this guy was 630

but still

[vague sierra]

It's just our handicap for playing the best class in the game. 🙂

[sage karma]

I like how simple fury is

feels really comfy to play

but man I don't enjoy just doing less damage than equally braindead classes (ret) AND having less utility

at least enh is pretty tricky to play

[keen kindle]

Enh isn't that bad but like

It's not "Oh look a spec that plays itself" like ret and fury is

[pale sentinel]

Bro How Can I get this uI?

[sudden tusk]

you can see the cleave coming in from the far side. the issue is the aoe actually goes basically invis towards the end so its just fucked and you have to omega respect it

[pale sentinel]

@median dust Let me get your ui 😭

[exotic root]

@Orckbolg Let me get your ui 😭

[clever belfry]

goat healer ofc

[final birch]

@tired cobalt

[left perch]

I know that guy

[final birch]

wait its the

wrong xan

[brittle phoenix]

@tired cobalt

[final birch]

@young swan

[brittle phoenix]

@fickle bluff hi

[fickle bluff]

hi

[eternal sundial]

Xantaga

[young swan]

[eternal sundial]

More like imafantaga amirite

[left perch]

@left perch hey what’s up buddy

[eternal sundial]

😄

[feral ivy]

whats yall raid buff at atm? mines at 5%

[covert blaze]

7% this week

[median dust]

the bar in the middle is a patreon bonus so I can't share that without risk of getting banned haha.. But I can give u the rest of the ELV UI and Details, etc

[feral ivy]

how much gold would yall buy the heroic queen ring

[final birch]

people pay like a million for it

or two

[covert blaze]

500+

[honest karma]

I feel like i’m doing something wrong while playing slayer, especially in ST raid fights… I tend to always press CB and BB between ramps. Should i not do that? I guess it’s capping me too much

[sinful charm]

sometimes i put GB keys up and not accept anyone just to feel sumn

[oblique trail]

Rage capping is simply something you accept playing RA

You're supposed to press CB and BB before you rampage again 👍

Unless you lose enrage, then you'd rampage and lose the RA stacks

[honest karma]

Prio list says to ramp at 100 rage🤷🏽‍♂️

[sinful charm]

Mountain thane stomp ground ooga booga

[feral ivy]

lets gooo lol

[honest karma]

I tend to get beat by our other warr in st fights and he’s doing more ramp damage. Might be stats idk

[oblique trail]

It's a very minute difference using CB > Ramp during CDs (like 0.1% at the very best, so within margin)

Just do CB > BB > Ramp in ST

It's genuinely not worth the extra brain power

[glacial sonnet]

looking at the fury st apl

[honest karma]

Thanks banezi

[glacial sonnet]

raging blow is above bloodbath

guides usually say bloodbath is above raging in the prio

D:

[crystal musk]

No they don't?

Oh

I'm dumb

[sinful charm]

if button press = big dps then button press = good :)

[crystal musk]

Disregard

[snow edge]

Do you mean RB or CB; for RA it's exactly as Banezi described it in practise

[glacial sonnet]

bloodbath is only above if the target is below 35% or with the 85% crit chance

[sinful charm]

Counterpoint: doing the math is for nerds

im warrior ooga booga

[oblique trail]

It was slightly above the 0.1%~ ish that I last saw, but this is simply removing the rampage if at or above 115 rage

You can figure out if this difference matters enough to you, but personally I don't bother with it as CB > BB > Ramp essentially performs the same and is also a lot smoother

[warm crag]

have you seen the new andayaya APL

[oblique trail]

I have

[warm crag]

can you compare that aswell

[oblique trail]

quite strong damage increase

[glacial sonnet]

I see ty for the answers

[feral ivy]

should i switch to that oil instead of algari? or nah its not worth?

[summer quail]

What's the andayaya apl

[violet moss]

it ever happen to u guys when you fire the fucking cannon in siege of anus it does not hit kraken?

it just fireewss through

[feral ivy]

yea i missed before but it gave me a extra shot lol

[polar roost]

where do i find these steps? are they from the raidbots side?

[feral ivy]

but never missed by it going through it

[violet moss]

they fjking kick me because they think i missed it

i shoot right at iut

DIRECTLY

[feral ivy]

? in heroic or normal?

[violet moss]

MYTHIC

[feral ivy]

waaa?

who tf does that

[polar roost]

why caps? chill, happens. next time record runs

[violet moss]

fuck you

[polar roost]

[feral ivy]

was this like a key around lvl 7

[elder granite]

can you transmitter before a key is put in and it resets?

[polar roost]

even if, where do you get benefit with 5s left

[feral ivy]

only dungeon u prob will benefit would be SOB and mist i think

[violet moss]

a dogshit 9

it's whatever man, i'll go get baked as fuck and forget the whole thing

awdawdafgwesgadf

[clever belfry]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9iPjwY3J5oCwbz2XqzCk2n

[short cobalt]

random question if anyone knows, for the stonevault mount do u go prot for the synergistic brewterializer to drop?

[oblique trail]

Leaking the new apl..

[clever belfry]

#heroic abilites

[modest condor]

secret tech let's go

[rotund ginkgo]

GOT MY SHIRT SAMPLE

[mossy fox]

dont know what that is but it's pretty cool ragish

[rotund ginkgo]

Thank u crit it's guts from berserk

Custom design by urs truly

[covert blaze]

poggies

[rotund ginkgo]

Sample shirt, I'll change some minor things then make an Etsy

:3

Some of my clients showed interest

[mossy fox]

oh yeah it's that arms warrior

[smoky wraith]

quick question i have my struggles with what to prio i know CB is prio but if im at rampage rage and my BB is at 30 % do i press rampage or BB ?

[rotund ginkgo]

Yeah he has the Armageddon mog

[smoky wraith]

i use to press CB untill its RB then i press Rampage and then i press CB again until BB has enough Crit .
but i feel like i should use the CB stacks and then BB no matter what % and then Rampage ?

but maybe overthinking it

[dire badge]

THE gut from berk?

[rotund ginkgo]

bork

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-berserk-griffith-punching-guts-punching-griffith-gif-27000236

[mossy fox]

damn that other guy can take a lot of hits

i'll watch until he's done and then go sleep

[rotund ginkgo]

He's not stopping any time soon it seems

Compliments to gut for having so much stamina

[summer quail]

Yes, the legion arms warrior

[thick fossil]

It's fine, Griffith deserves everything he gets.

[lament lagoon]

Bro whats the item ID for tempered pot tier 3, my marcro fcked up

[clever belfry]

no lust ansurek hack????

[cyan star]

Should just auto use the highest rank. My macro with just /use does

[cyan star]

You ever +2 and 11 and realize you forgot to hero 💀

[clever belfry]

no.

we lusted

but log doesnt track if ur mage (@ksuper) prelusts

[lament lagoon]

Thats how i hav mine but for the last 2 days shit has not worked

[cyan star]

Weird, I auto sort my inventory, idk if that makes a difference or not.

[cyan star]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-to-study-more-faster-cat-typing-gif-13922118

people studying log trying to figure out when you lust

[gleaming talon]

I think they lust after the kill to show they “swagged it”

[sinful spoke]

anyone know how to set up the mrt reminder thingy

im trying to set up remindrs for silken

[lapis yoke]

does taking feirce followthrough bump BB up in the prio?

in st

[upbeat plume]

not really, as hitting rb still stacks t he crit buff

[lapis yoke]

i more mean say im capped rage, you would crushing blow but normally wouldnt BB but with fierce would that change

[hard widget]

You dont care about the rage cap with RA slayer

[snow edge]

Pretty sure even at capped rage you're still hitting CB - BB - Rampage

[hard widget]

You will overcap when sending cd's

[hard widget]

I believe its GIGA MINOR to skip 1 BB currently but even for that there is conditions

[covert blaze]

just copy the string on your personal note

[hard widget]

Basically just send

[hard widget]

Hi zhai

[snow edge]

Yeh Banezi mentioned it's maybe a 0.1% optimisation to muck around with that; i.e. not worth it

[hard widget]

Not sure if he did the math, i remember something from when i tried some stuff on APL after the changes

[sinful spoke]

i dont have a personal note

[hard widget]

And i didnt bother with it

[covert blaze]

make one

[summer quail]

2k dpss loss to not play around bloodcraze. that is with perfect play

[sinful spoke]

how

[hard widget]

I believe depending on ur crit it was 2-3 stacks

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-hi-gif-6074531847821959379

[hard widget]

But im not 100% on that

[lament lagoon]

/use item:212263
/use item:212264
/use item:212265

Item code for all tempred pots

[snow edge]

It's just much easier / efficient to stick to CB - BB - Rampage; no fuss, high efficiency, no missed GCDs trying to change priority based on specific conditions

[covert blaze]

wait are you talking about the new thing or the lorrgs reminders

i'm talking about the lorrgs thing

[summer quail]

it's barely a loss as well

[sinful spoke]

the new thing

this thing

[covert blaze]

ah nvm then i havnet looked into it yet mb

[sinful spoke]

i think im almost done with it

im just tweaking the colors for it

[hard widget]

Wut is dis

[sinful spoke]

its a new feature that mrt has for reminders on bosses

[hard widget]

It looks fancy

[sinful spoke]

crit used a liquid one in his silken clear and mentioned mrt had one

so i went into it and messed with it

just reminding me to pop cds 14s in and then again every 1.5 for dmg phases

[hard widget]

Ngl might be handy for Silken

[sinful spoke]

ye

[hard widget]

I jumped guilds didnt prog it and now im with a team that pumps it

So im a bit behind for it xd

[sinful spoke]

i just took his timings

[hard widget]

Im sure u can make that work with ERT reminders if u import spell id's

[sinful spoke]

probably idk anything abt these addons

[hard widget]

https://wago.io/n7l5uN3YM

This one

[sinful spoke]

oh yeah i got that

[hard widget]

It basically TTS ur assignment and shows an icon

[sinful spoke]

i mean this thing tbh works the same way as the WA

[hard widget]

Thats pretty cool tbh

[sinful spoke]

i also set it up to say cooldowns+pot with the text to speech

yeah its huge

[hard widget]

!coaching

[sinful spoke]

[hard widget]

So this is just a new feature of MRT then or?

[sinful spoke]

wts mrt reminders import string 2k gold

[sinful spoke]

ya

[still ibex]

Deal done
What do you think guys about reflecting poison bolts on court?

[sinful spoke]

{time:0:14} |cffc69b6dCheche|r {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns+pot|r
{time:1:45} |cffc69b6dCheche|r {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns|r
{time:0:15,p2} |cffc69b6dCheche|r {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns|r
{time:1:50,p2} |cffc69b6dCheche|r {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns|r
{time:0:27,p3} |cffc69b6dCheche|r {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns|r
{time:2:27,p3} {spell:107574} |cff00ff23Cooldowns+pot|r this is the one i just set up in case anyone wants it just gotta change the name to ur character name

[sturdy violet]

I was 300dps off rank 1 on Sikran today and I don't bother with the juggling so always sending both is good enough imo

[floral dove]

psst quick question fellow warriors what yall use for Raid (trink wise) i have Mark,Sac,Queen,Transmitter trinks at 626 max rank upgrade (no myth track) what do y'all use for heroic bosses

or is all just personal pref?

[sturdy violet]

Sac + whatever

[floral dove]

so my question should i be using Sac/Mark or Sac/Queen's

[sturdy violet]

Transmitter if you think you can handle doing whatever bullshit it gives you during the fight

[floral dove]

transmitter doesnt bother me

was told transmitter/queen was the better output

[sturdy violet]

Sim yourself is the correct abswer but transmitter has the problem of real world being harder to execute than a sim

[floral dove]

i see

[sturdy violet]

If you are fucking up because of it then macroing mark into avatar is the simple solution

[floral dove]

i have mark already macro into burst

feels alot smoother

but i like transmitter for bigger dps buff

cant i just use both LOL

transmitter on non mechanic

mark on burst?

[sturdy violet]

No point since your biggest damage comes from CD window and you can't use both during it

In theory it could be transmitter>sac even if you send it unsynced with CDs but I doubt it

Sim and find out

[floral dove]

yeah im simming

just curious

ty 🙏

[summer quail]

sac and transmitter. transmitter too strong

[floral dove]

I see

[turbid glacier]

Quick question about our pure ST rotation. are we trying to line up bladestorm with all our cd's or just doing it on cd and praying

[buoyant salmon]

yall wish you had this aura

[balmy shore]

aura

[clever path]

Tbh I’m hoping next tier is better than this one raid wise. This tier just hasn’t been that fun to me

[buoyant salmon]

im 631 i havent done keys in weeks its not fun lol

[summer quail]

prob will be, this one is very mid. tho i've heard ansurek mythic is fun

[covert blaze]

631
aura

bro fr tho the m+ pool is like
the worst ever

asscheeks

[summer quail]

atleast it's confirmed motherlode is coming back. that dungeon owns

[clever path]

I hope so, the fights this tier have either been super boring or really poorly designed. There’s a few good ones including Queen

But god brood is the worst. Blizzard just wanted to throw as much bs out at the same time while the raid chugged for weeks

[lament lagoon]

some1 carry my nw13

[astral path]

hmmm

mechagnome 10k dps over human in my sims

😈

swap could be worth

earthen dps downgrade

[summer quail]

it's better than aberrus imo, tho that's not a high bar

[vocal fog]

When is the season 2 coming guys

[pearl sequoia]

like early feb maybe

[clever path]

I liked Ab fine, but it had the same issue this tier does. Putting a wall that’s harder than later bosses earlier on which is dumb

I feel like if brood was just not there this tier would feel better for mythic at least

[boreal cairn]

Brood is dumb but it's not harder than any boss past it lol, MAYBE you could argue princess but that's it

[clever path]

The issue with brood is it’s not about how much damage you can do. It’s not about how good you are at stuns or knocks. For a long time the game just chugged anytime adds spawned. Which made it just bad.

Honestly the chugging put my guild like a month behind because of all the issues this raid has had just performance wise

[floral dove]

trans is op af for raid

wth

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-krusty-krab-crawling-crawl-fish-gif-12745135769617083309

[summer quail]

told you

a 626 transmitter will be better than any myth trinket

[floral dove]

man i did 1.20mil overall and like 4mill on burst

[lament wing]

When playing RA build, when is it optimal to strike with bb? I have the tracker stacking WA taht shows % n shit from DF idk if that's even a thing to manage still.

[clever path]

As far as I know you use it every time it’s up. There is no real “best time” but that’s just what I’ve seen

[lament wing]

i thought cause of blood craze we wnat to stack it till it's 100% crit chance then fire it off.

[clever path]

That’s from dragon flight. Yeah we still get crit stacks, but holding it does nothing for you. With RA you wanna use your CB and your BB every time. That’s what I’ve seen since the start of tww

It does change slightly if you wanna min max but to be honest the benefit is small

[lament wing]

so if its glows throw it down

what prio does it take if rampage and raging blow are both glowing lol then execute

[clever path]

Execute has lowest priority, CB has higher if single target, BB more if multi iirc

But that’s just a broad stroke

[lament wing]

and rampage above all that if not enraged?

[clever path]

Pretty much, usually when you ramp and use both CB and BB you’ll just do it all over again, if you want you can look at a guide it should have a more broken down prio list than I can give off the top of my head

[young swan]

@buoyant salmon gratz on kill bic boi

[buoyant salmon]

ty sirge

[sullen dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/768989615419817994/1067568976223281212/image0.gif

[feral ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/the-woobles-woobles-pierre-penguin-cheerleader-gif-11663686021371637954

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/pepsu-gif-25384113

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/foghorn-leghorn-spank-beat-beating-gif-12866723695374477811

[lament wing]

is slayer AOE build miles behind thunder build or is it like a % or two?

[summer quail]

it's noticeably behind, but if you're only doing like weekly keys you won't feel it as much

[lament wing]

copy taht.

[dull compass]

What do you guys use? DBM or BW?

[summer quail]

bigwigs. used to run dbm but it didn't work on echo of nelth and i cba to swap back

[coarse nest]

Princess

[remote zephyr]

Yo fury or arms for mythic court

[sinful spoke]

wtf is that

[sinful spoke]

id ragequit

[sullen dove]

a waycrest banshee?

[sinful spoke]

why is that thing here

[solemn widget]

whats the secret to 45 seconds bladestorms w/o Anger management

am i dumb

[undone flower]

I have that too

Not mine tho, it’s sikran from the guild I left

[covert blaze]

slayer hero talents

[young swan]

think he means how to make it consistent

could be wrong tho

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag

[solemn widget]

yes consitency I feel likes its RNG

[cosmic flume]

Hear me out

[unreal onyx]

Just crit once more

If they used R3 consumes instead of R2 they would‘ve killed it

[undone flower]

If they had a mage, a dh or a druid the boss would have died

Or if all together they needed just 7 million more, I wonder where they can find it

[elfin vortex]

Morning guys , i need some help because i think i understand something wrong.. i am logging 85 however i can't log above that , in aoe fights it's fine because it's padding and we have a lot of burst classes in my raid team, but i am still at 83 on sikran, here js the link for logs if anyone can check https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/kazzak/dhxs

[late ivy]

why are my sims telling me to stay at 19% haste? trying to craft a ring right now and it's making me craft crit/mast or vers/mast ring

[sterile heart]

how do I sim crafted items?

[unreal onyx]

I use gear compare

[sullen dove]

i was forced to tank princess for like 2 hours

and man that shit kinda easy

[dull compass]

if you spend 2 seconds thinking about it. Raidbots is an utterly insane tool to have for free

[tender seal]

try #449510248579858432

[elfin vortex]

Oh yea ,ty

[crisp rain]

hi quick question : is bloodthirst prio over raging blow as slayer now ?

[gilded pawn]

for starters you should finish upgrading your gear like your shoulders

rotation seems fine in general

actually no, you have 63 rampages, which should mean 63 crushing blows

bloodbath is 58 but thats fine, im not exactly sure how unhinged counts in logs

but thats the general gist of it

[sullen dove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212528993283088384/1228863090368450592/ezgif-2-db49a54415.gif?ex=6737e5ef&is=6736946f&hm=ce7c49f3dc886b0cd8207a55e49b2d7dd742abc39b65feb0e5d5dd37938e52ad&

[elfin vortex]

I think everything is upgraded except one ring, maybe gear is not updated, and also i am out of crest right now i am 635/636ilvl

[undone flower]

It’s not your gear, you did 62 by ilvl

[elfin vortex]

Yea i know , this is why my logs are bad and i think i am doing something wrong in the rotation

[undone flower]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dz7GtaXrLND1wpZg#fight=17&type=summary&source=31

im on the phone so I don’t really want to check logs, maybe it will help you to see the replay (dont’ watch my casts I don’t know to play fury, I main prot i just dps in raid)

[elfin vortex]

Sure. Ty a lot

[undone flower]

Because it’s maybe movement etc, and I did 1.3 with 632 so it may help

Like when the boss do the charge you can charge him instantly to keep dmg when he is done

If you are chosen for charge when he charged you, you can move to follow him, you don’t need to wait he is done, you can walk on images, just don’t be in the line

[gilded pawn]

@elfin vortex

That’s your problem rotationally

[elfin vortex]

I always charge except if there are swirls in the group so i don't wanna get hit kr killed by charging on some of them

Yea i need more CB , i have 2 more questions, below 35% we prioritise BB over CB ? And do we use execute when it procs or when it has x3 mark of executioner ?

[eternal sundial]

Prio doesnt change u just dont skip bb anymore

Not like u should if ur shaky with fury

Execute if ashen jugg is falling, sd is running out or if 3mfe

[undone flower]

You die only if you take 2 at the same time

And I think it targets players position, so when he charges the 4 players there is no swirlies except the 4 players

[fluid cedar]

Is that a frenchie? I have a Boston terrier that’s the same color

[elfin vortex]

Oh i see i see , thanks for the help guys

[golden hare]

me and who

[sullen dove]

me

[clever belfry]

ball.

[oblique trail]

[clever belfry]

get lv60 lazy bolas

[oblique trail]

Maybe stop screaming at me

[clever belfry]

ive yet to start this

[dull compass]

Can you farm any of the nerub bosses for anything?

Or just one drop per boss per difficulty per week?

[oblique trail]

Do you mean raid bosses?

[dull compass]

Yeah

[oblique trail]

They're not farmable no

So the latter you said

You can at most loot all the items a boss drop once per difficulty, and once per week

[dull compass]

Would be an awesome way to get runed

[oblique trail]

Sadly Blizzard has yet to implement a good way to farm crests outside of M+

[dull compass]

I just hate M+ at this point

It’s just flat out bad until you get a group

And a majority of all good groups aren’t changing for newer players

[forest owl]

i spent 40mins at 634 ilvl just trying to get into a 10 the other day then i settled for 8s just for crests and found the groups i was getting into wiping on 1st trash pack and disbanding

[dull compass]

Like it’s just insane

Because an 8 and 10 just aren’t hard

But if you are brown you are going to queue for 40 mins

Just to watch insta invite classes ruin runs

[forest owl]

im convinced 8s are harder than 10s for some reason, maybe more bad players in the lower keys or whatever, least thats my experience

[dull compass]

Nail on the head

I have first tried more higher keys than lower keys

And god fucking forbid I use my own key

[unreal onyx]

Purely depends on io these days

[dull compass]

Then no matter how protective I am about who I invite it just doesn’t matter

[unreal onyx]

Why take 2500 brown man when 2700 blue man applies

[thick fossil]

I joined the 2800 club yesterday.

[unreal onyx]

Especially 10s are overflooded with higher io players trying to fill their vaults

It’s hard out there for dps to get into a pug 10

Any dps that’s below 2800, really

[dull compass]

I’ll be honest I rolled a FDK

Just so I can play the game

[unreal onyx]

Or you play your own key

[dull compass]

It’s much better but I don’t like the class as much

[ornate wharf]

hello everyone.
Is it better to sim ST or Dungeonslice?

[dull compass]

As discussed this simply isn’t an option if you are a unlucky person

[dull compass]

Depends on what you are doing

[unreal onyx]

ST with aoe talents is mostly the go-to

Or 1T 5min with the talents you want to run

I don’t change any sim options no matter the build

[dull compass]

Lots of people also just pw 5 bosses with roughly the time your burst is

That will tell you what you can expect as well in AoE

[unreal onyx]

But then you‘ll also have to consider the buffs you actually have

For m+

[dull compass]

Yeah

[inland stone]

Guys question. Why everyone that I have seen use roar after recklessness +avatar . Does it increase the bleed ? . I use roar before I buff up .

[unreal onyx]

1T 5min is the easiest and most consistent sim I‘d say

[dull compass]

Yeah to be consistent for sure

[unreal onyx]

Avatar buffs roar obv

[dull compass]

But also kinda not perfect for warriors strengths right now

[unreal onyx]

So you want avatar before roar to also have the initial hit buffed

[inland stone]

Ok ty guys .

[unreal onyx]

Isk how other classes sim, but depending on the niche stegths of each class you can’t really perfectly sim any class imo

Unless pure single target

[chrome plover]

warrior gets more reliable results from single target sims than most others

since our single target abilities directly translate into aoe with meat cleaver

simming single target for everything and using your brain for deciding whether you wanna change a trinket for an aoe fight/m+

is the way to go

[mossy anvil]

Hi, should i use bladestorm if its not synced with my cds or hold it until they are up?

[chrome plover]

I tend to hold if it's 10~ seconds away from my cds

but if it's longer than that just send it

[drifting pulsar]

hey yall. I am currently on 631 and I cant seem to make sustainable dmg throughout the key. Sim is giving me different ability prio than maxroll.gg and from the videos I've see different opinions there as well. I am using Slayer talent, and if I don't have a pack more than 8mobs the dps is not that good.
My rotation is something like: reck > charge > prepot > avatar > roar > rampage > bladestorm > SB (if the pack doesnt require many CCs) > crushing blow > rampage > crushing blow > rampage.. and then I prioritize rampage > crushing blow > bloodbath > whirlwind for cleave and then spaming raging blow if nothing procs. Bloodbath over crushing blow only in case of aoe dmg. (hopefully I didnt forget anything/didnt say my rotation completely wrong)..
Any suggestions/advice ?

[warm crag]

what is SB in the opener you listed

idk what you mean with sim is giving you different ability prio, sims dont give ability priorities at all unless you managed to find the simc html page and navigated that correctly

"and then I prioritize rampage > crushing blow > bloodbath > whirlwind for cleave" you either worded this atrociously or you don't understand what we are trying to do with reckless abandon, if you are following this as listed you will be munching a lot of CB/BB procs that you dont wanna munch

overall casts of ramp should be roughly equal to CB and BB

you're also implying you're not cleaving your ST abilities with meat cleaver properly

[chrome plover]

storm bolt

[warm crag]

rotational stormbolt gg

[south kayak]

lmao

[fallen ginkgo]

You know you bolt while spinning

[warm crag]

if you care about this you probably have bigger things to worry about that actually have a real impact on your dps

[fallen ginkgo]

🤷

[south kayak]

Stormbolting in BS is nothing

[undone flower]

I have a question, why he use recklessness before the charge ? I’m not main fury (just in raid), I just macro avatar and reck together

Ofc on ovinax I just bind on my bars a solo reck just for the pull

[radiant plank]

More rage from charge

to guarantee enough for ramp

[undone flower]

Ok… now I’m learning I need to rampage before avatar ?

[drifting pulsar]

@warm crag am not here to "flex my rotation" obvs. I am trying to learn sir

[drifting pulsar]

I know you need to rampage once before BS

[undone flower]

Yes I just did until this point the wowhead opener didn’t know it changed

[radiant plank]

you reck charge ava ramp

so you are enraged fro spear + bs

[undone flower]

That’s what I do

[drifting pulsar]

on sim it points out that 'pre-pull' you reck

i've seen people using full macro

others do it pre pull as sim suggested

[undone flower]

I use reck+avatar macro, didn’t know it was a thing to bind separate when you use the talent that improve raging blood and blood thrust

[radiant plank]

More rage from charge
to guarantee enough for ramp

[drifting pulsar]

@undone flower you can also add TR on the macro

[mental lake]

in ST Build u always have enough rage for ramp, even without reck before charge

[fading sky]

how?

[undone flower]

I hesitate to do so, you macro it and it’s fine for you ?

[drifting pulsar]

yes I didnt mention this is my m+ "aoe" talent rotation

[fading sky]

ah reck from avatar ye

well i mean

[undone flower]

Yes that’s why I find it weird, you always have enough rage to ramp