fury

[sullen dove]

was kinda crazy how it can just like gigaroll rng

i had like 7 stacks of it at one point

was like +8.5k or something

[summer quail]

[sullen dove]

devus

[summer quail]

ok based

[soft merlin]

worth ? or should i spam stonevalut for for hero? stop neck

[radiant plank]

🤔

[soft merlin]

simc got it like 1k more dps then emer stop

[radiant plank]

you must have alot of haste baseline if this bis item is only 1k

[soft merlin]

28%

[radiant plank]

Yep that will do

But I would pick this and reshuffle some stats around

[soft merlin]

thx for the advice

[turbid abyss]

Lets gooo

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/219926734504591370/1306112055828545607/image0.jpg?ex=67357b24&is=673429a4&hm=b40f6a3b28db27bd9eccf471d907e33722e2128d1823842c8f4af0358c365b16&

[open coyote]

Is dungeon slice an okay way to sim for fury?

[storm rune]

it's okay, it's just a mockup of like 2mins aoe and 4mins ST or something close to those numbers

But since our damage profile is almost entirely cleave from our ST rotation, ST simming works out very well

[crude ridge]

My go to is hectic add cleave

[storm rune]

personally I sim 1 target and 5 target to see if anything pulls ahead by a large margin in aoe without trading much in ST and find a balance

[keen dove]

hello where can i see if this Flame wrath weapon from blackrock depths is good or bad?

compared to other stat given weapons

[open coyote]

smart I might try this I only raid for fury, but ye cleaving the adds is often big dps

[crude ridge]

sim it

but depending on the stats it's typically worse

[open coyote]

just to check this would be patchwerk then ye

[storm rune]

yeah just patchwerk

[elder beacon]

Are people playing fury or arms in m+ after buffs? Dunno if i make the swap from fury to arms, it's easier statwise then to play Prot OS.. (currently geared towards fury, but if it's a swap you want to make i might aswell do it with this weeks vault).

My main contentent is M+!

[inner harbor]

so bad

[clever belfry]

where what

[sullen dove]

anda good cooldown stealing man

stole his like week 3 or 4 or somethin rash cds

pmuch usin it ever since

minus like 1 tweak towards end

[young swan]

killing the ansurussy today?

wait

ur not turtles anymore

nvm

@warm crag killing the ansurussy today?

[sudden tusk]

dude you have

so much room now on that fight lmao

[young swan]

yeah its really free

actually insane

[sudden tusk]

they took the boss out back for sure

playing to rngsus himself we drop a queen ring

[coral sage]

yo did slayer got buffs this week?

[young swan]

nope

[coral sage]

next week then right?

[young swan]

nope

[coral sage]

tell me

[sudden tusk]

warrior is pretty good its just no Top tier now

[radiant plank]

ARMS WARRIOR IS PRETTY GOOD ON QUEEN GUYS

[sudden tusk]

if anything id still like a consistant aoe buff through whirlwind

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27599013

[radiant plank]

Not jokin

especially if u play 2x warrior

[coral sage]

what about 21x warrior

[radiant plank]

Fuark

[chrome plover]

were the nerfs gigantic?

unfortunately we probs don’t kill court this week

[radiant plank]

they removed last roots and 2nd shackles

big nerf

[sudden tusk]

we didnt pull it at all tonight

[radiant plank]

hc boss now

[sudden tusk]

so idk what p3 looks like yet

since we just killed court and called it

but its prob just gonna explode

[chrome plover]

this is first extend week for us

[south kayak]

lets do warrior raid

[chrome plover]

[fading sky]

dno man i still havent got any 2h or skarmorak so

[unreal onyx]

Just kill ulgrax smh

[fading sky]

❤️

[south kayak]

I got both back to back

sorry

[fading sky]

i mean

happens 😄

[unreal onyx]

I got myth shard in my very first vault

And I didn’t expect to like it that much

[south kayak]

you did 10 in first week?

gigachad amongst men

[unreal onyx]

First or second*

[fading sky]

i just did a 7 or 8 i think

i just pulled sockets

[unreal onyx]

But 10 untimed was possible, just took 8 years

I haven’t gotten a single socket yet

Kinda need one for my helm or belt

But we‘ll see

Or my 636 crafted bracers

[sudden tusk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/168831607103422464/1297963056566898789/JqOtIfP.mp4.mov?ex=67357f8b&is=67342e0b&hm=4babf58ffca731945bc7cfc08666578af6128a4f62d921599db42957709be590&

[sullen dove]

goober can eat shit

flame or flame

[chrome plover]

2hour 10SV adventure at the end of week 1

great stuff

[clever belfry]

if they don't they should be upset

I gotta look at the changed timers

see if anything relevant changed.

[young swan]

nothing did

not for us anyways

boss is just insanely consistent now

wouldnt be surprised to see sub-100 pull counts from well prepped guilds

[oblique trail]

@young swan are web blade timers still the same

As in do first blades spawn and last blades explode at the same time as before

[sudden tusk]

1 less blae per cast

[oblique trail]

Yeye

[sudden tusk]

and removed some blades in p3

[oblique trail]

But is the total time that blades are active the same

[sudden tusk]

yeah still fast

[clever belfry]

okay to put this precisely
last blade spawn -> first blade fire is the same time

or is that more

[sudden tusk]

im pretty sure the active time is the same from cast to finish

lemme check rq tho

[clever belfry]

active time would imply longer gap unless the inter spawn timers are also increased

if u give me vod link ill check meself

[sudden tusk]

that was pre nerf

this was post

i updated Nnorther sky today so should be dif

[clever belfry]

the time between ticks is for sure the same

but this doesnt answer my questions cause its based off of a WA

[sudden tusk]

okay so i checked my footage

[clever belfry]

does first one fire on the first red line or before

[sudden tusk]

first so it goes BLADE BLADE BLADE SKIP

RETRACT RETRACT RETRACT SKIP

on those lines

so the last green line hasnt been updated but that one is gone

[young swan]

ye

[sudden tusk]

so blade 1 to rectract 1 is the same timing

you just lose blade 4

on both

[young swan]

u have extra time to react its sick

[sudden tusk]

or half your raid moves into a safe spot on blade 3

then blade 4 spanws on it

: )

or used to

[young swan]

it felt that way anyways

[sudden tusk]

bro im logging onto ff14 and im pressing E to dragonride

what the fuck

[young swan]

maybe its the same? idfk but its really easy if u die to web blades u need to commit die

[sudden tusk]

no the blades are legit the exact same as pre nerf

you just lose blade 4

the timing doesnt change you just have extra time where the blade 4 drop would have been

and the first blade retracts

so it feels liek you have more time but its the same drop to active timer

[clever belfry]

there u go

[sudden tusk]

basically

[clever belfry]

madox u gotta work on your wording

[unreal onyx]

Love SV keys, I am done with the season basically and that is one of the keys I will not run anymore, maybe 2s for mount farm but that’s it

[sudden tusk]

see above video

im a content creator i promise

[clever belfry]

tbf not getting to the point

is very on brand for that.

[sudden tusk]

i can stretch 4 alts opening vaults to 10 minutes

i am to be feared

[tardy lark]

now you just need 12 rats, do 1 key on each and talk about simming that one option for the phat 45min vid

[sudden tusk]

consideing the fact that without crest catchup i will never try to play more then 3 characters again

maybe

why the fuck isnt there catchup man

why do i need to farm 400 crests on an alt i literally played activley and am like 625 on

[flat river]

Got an ok vault today

Mythic helmet i turned to tier, and i already had brood hands with haste mastery in my bags so i swapped my tier hands to them and wore the tier head

Always keep your loot guys, never sell

[tardy lark]

Yeah i feel the myth track thing is a little too long ngl

Feels really weird not being max at this point, even with clearing the raid early and doing splits

[sudden tusk]

im only at 636 and ive optimized just about everything

the only thing ive crafted extra was a ring

[tardy lark]

4/6 -> 6/6 hc track also feels ATROCIOUS to put crests into

[sudden tusk]

yeah thats like throwing them away

[radiant plank]

619 is a prison

[tardy lark]

we obviously spent gilded suboptimally for immediate power during prog

[sudden tusk]

my sacbroods gonna stay at 619 until i get like rashanan tinket

[tardy lark]

but still im 636 with like 2 weeks to go

[sudden tusk]

for the free upgrade

[tardy lark]

i have looted all 3 rare items in vault

... on 3 separate warriors

[sudden tusk]

i got the SV neck in the vualt again this week

[tardy lark]

worst one has ring, alt has neck and main has cloak 🙂

[sudden tusk]

guess i dont need sikran neck anymore

[tardy lark]

i just wanna save the crests man

i havent even gotten a mythic neck yet

[sudden tusk]

i still kinda want sikran neck tho the passive kinda owns for keys

[clever belfry]

3 warriors

perish

mirror mirror on the wall

[eternal sundial]

I also only have cloak

Deadge

[tardy lark]

i wanted to do warrior/rogue/something., but i did not have the time to actually not grief on several classes

so played it safe with 3 warriors

how many did pieces do @clever belfry

[clever belfry]

when i played we didnt force mirrors

and i just did 3 chars

[eternal compass]

Hello guys, I have a question. I saw some people going storm bolt on single target bosses like sikran. What is the reason for that, since you cant stun it?

[clever belfry]

and 1 split demon

[oblique trail]

You can use SB mid BS, doing a tiny bit of damage

(this is a 0.00001% increase)

[tardy lark]

imagine we are doing pieces level shit at rank 26

end me

[radiant plank]

Main has neck + cloak, 2nd warru has neck as u see and 3rd has queen ring : DDD

[eternal sundial]

I mean u legit need to just

8 day

[sudden tusk]

theres too much add bullshit this tier man

[eternal sundial]

Easy top 15

[clever belfry]

tbf when i played pieces it was also slands

and doing an alt

[sudden tusk]

parsing is dogshit

[clever belfry]

took 10x longer

like theres very few top200 guilds without alts now

its kinda silly

[tardy lark]

i have not played the other warriors outside hc splits or boosts so they havent gotten much love lol

[tardy lark]

felt like we did 8 day the last week of prog

[radiant plank]

Yeah same for me, just now starting to play my 2nd warri

[tardy lark]

even filthy sabotage made @oblique trailmagus a thing

[oblique trail]

What are you implying

Banezimagus owned

[clever belfry]

x

d

[oblique trail]

First time mage

prodigy

[clever belfry]

i think mage players

are just barely better than healers

scraping the bottom man

[tardy lark]

Lvled a shammy planning to alt enhance and then suddenly it gets brought to 4/8 mythic at 565 ilvl and people expect me to giga grind gilded with 0 myth track shit to use it for

[clever belfry]

worse than handa with 595 gear

wcyd

[radiant plank]

ome

[oblique trail]

I'm getting ruined by my silken court and ansurek parse

[radiant plank]

Banezinoobus

[oblique trail]

Idk I just didn't know how to play cleave Arcane

And didn't care enough

Just full boss dam doer

[tardy lark]

plan was to coast with some last 2 hc and weekly 10s for a couple of weeks before actually comitting to the swap

[tardy lark]

Schmidt will check and thank you cause hes used to Dapsi

[radiant plank]

[oblique trail]

Schmidt told me I was a good addition to the team so I can now grief 👍

[tardy lark]

oh yeah you had the talks

[oblique trail]

We did

Only real bad thing was when I 2x didn't break egg on Brood because I greeded uptime xddd

[tardy lark]

Bistand leaving PoE channel going "going up to get my ass handed to me"

hoooly

no mention of Ansurek grief

sloppy officer job smh

[oblique trail]

bro

2nd lowest melee deaths to web blades

✨

And no knife death on Kyveza

Too easy

[tardy lark]

yo who got roasted

[sudden tusk]

pulled kyveza first time today died to daggers didnt realize how fast they went out

[tardy lark]

Voli?

[sudden tusk]

me dum

[oblique trail]

I have no idea who got roasted

But some probably did

Some bosses had some terrorism equivalent to me not breaking eggs twice

[tardy lark]

our priest went "i feel like im wearing a rolex in london with how fast im getting shanked" on that fight

[sudden tusk]

lmao

i think broodtwister is a lost cuase to parse

but Kyvesa and court/queen are good

[tardy lark]

silken

[sudden tusk]

also i did over 1.8 on court as arms and its a fucking 60

[tardy lark]

not if you are 2 warriors

[oblique trail]

I don't think we had any homing missiles on Court

[sudden tusk]

god damn does my arms gear suck

[oblique trail]

one is not like the other

[tardy lark]

are you 3:30 lusting @sudden tusk

[oblique trail]

Court is unparsable

[sudden tusk]

no idea on court

[tardy lark]

you gotta do unholy things to the adds on that fight to actually parse

[sudden tusk]

i just rando sent a pull as arms for fun and we killed it that one

[tardy lark]

as in, people are bladestorming as damage amp is coming up cause you get full BS on adds

lol

[sudden tusk]

yeah i thought of that lmao

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

Yeah I already did something similar on prog xd

As in

"Why use Roar on amp, when I can do it on adds with both bosses stacked"

[sudden tusk]

theres just too many cringe adds

[clever belfry]

queen parse is kinda hard

as double warr

court just sucks

[sudden tusk]

im single war so i can parse good

[tardy lark]

you can roar before beetle man leaves and still have it 100% uptime for amp

[oblique trail]

That's as Arms only no?

[clever belfry]

ye

fury roar runs out abut halfway through

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'm just gonna go Fury for reclears

[clever belfry]

but if u get to pad adds and have dot on both

u get more dam anyway

[sudden tusk]

its good to toss the arms out every now and then

for reps

but fury comfy

[clever belfry]

no its not

[oblique trail]

I currently hate Arms with all my being

So I'd rather not

[sudden tusk]

the spec is dogshit to play

but yeah

[radiant plank]

Ok UI guys

which of these fucks is the smallnumber on top of my cross

[tardy lark]

im so sick of fury aggro man

[radiant plank]

what do I have to delete

[clever belfry]

i believe this one

but i think the framestack is not right here

could also be this encoded WA

[tardy lark]

isnt that just ancho WAs

anchor*

[clever belfry]

yeah i think thats the issue

WA framestack doesnt really work like this

[radiant plank]

i wil try the boss in massa range

see what happens

[proud vessel]

What is the fastest m+ dungeon?

[clever belfry]

NW clearly

[tardy lark]

mists i guess?

[polar narwhal]

ara-kara or mists

depending on mists maze

[tardy lark]

oh, yeah just do MDI strat for NW ez

[clever belfry]

i was not given constraints

so NW is fastest

[tardy lark]

was it even on a +10

[clever belfry]

idfk

[polar narwhal]

mdi is +9

[tardy lark]

it is so cringe man

[clever belfry]

mdi is 9-11

[chrome plover]

wtf a 9

[clever belfry]

911 joke???

[radiant plank]

MDI is 911

911 for my pugs ..

[clever belfry]

i would like to check

but rio is loading fast again

nw in cup2 was +9

[south kayak]

fastest io loading

[clever belfry]

cup1 it was +11

fastest key in cup1 was an 11 arakara

[tardy lark]

wtf

group a and group b treatment

[clever belfry]

diff cups always had diff keys

[tardy lark]

yeah im aware, but a +9 in a dungeon previously played on an 11 is not just a difference, its a massive one

[warm crag]

Ye

[tardy lark]

are you happy boss is halondrus'd or sad you didnt kill it before

[clever belfry]

+9s shouldnt be

in the mdi

👍

[iron portal]

I second this

[clever belfry]

idk if all youre doing in mdi is trying to walk fast and finding mobs to pull on the way

its kinda boring

[sudden tusk]

the fact they keys are so low makes mdi boring

tgp is a far better

[clever belfry]

nah tgp is

horrible

first 2 days are fully afk snoozefest

and last day is just spam reset than 1 dungeon that u can get a +1 key if u pull 30% first pull

(3% success chance pull)

[dull compass]

do all of the 20th anniversay world bosses have a chance to drop an item each week? or just the 3 you have a quest for?

[vital sonnet]

i thought it was mythic dungeon invitational, not international

did it change or did i get bearstein beared

[clever belfry]

it changed with the start of bfa

or late legion even

the first one was 100% called invitational

and the bfa ones were 100% all called international

between then im unsure 👍

[remote haven]

You guys have Stormbound or Defenders Armorkit on your legplates?

[sudden tusk]

armor one more dam

[tardy lark]

anda will flame you for that decision

[twilit harbor]

arakara definitely the fastest

and less things to kill pugs during boss fights

[sudden tusk]

movespeed gem owns

anda can get back in the cage

[tardy lark]

Handa wasnt allowed for long

[sly bay]

Guys i did one key on an alt yesterday and it didnt count for the vault today...anyone else had this issue?

[clever belfry]

oh no my 70str

fuck!!!!!!!

[clever belfry]

handa is too powerful to be properly invsted into let me tell u

[oblique trail]

maybe I bring out the hunter as next split alt

Mage is not it

[clever belfry]

yeah hunter is a good split alt

as long as BM is playable for hc

[oblique trail]

I considered that, or rogussy

Just anything that would not make me want to blast my brains out from playing it 👍

[warm crag]

boring

[summer quail]

enhance kinda fun

[oblique trail]

Already got depression from playing my DK alt

Don't want to play Enhance and see first hand how much stronger it is than my main

[summer quail]

ahh play windwalker then

[mossy fox]

same

[oblique trail]

it's a sad fate

At least we have @tardy lark again making DK look balanced

[tardy lark]

im doing 1.2mil overalls at 600 ilvl with shammy

dk is lost project

[mossy fox]

dk doesnt seem to shine until higher keys where you actually get giga value from 2 mins

but enhance still poops on dk anyway on high key ig

[tardy lark]

Ascendance is short enough to where it doesnt feel bad popping it on smaller packs

[mossy fox]

im sure my dps will increase when my new chair arrives

[oblique trail]

Got rolled yet again by an enhance in the first weekly key I did this morning

[tardy lark]

what'd you buy

[oblique trail]

It was very interactive 👍

[mossy fox]

embody

[tardy lark]

it was me

[mossy fox]

i heard it's bis

[tardy lark]

ayoo, you shelling out the big bucks

[oblique trail]

are you willing to send your old to me

[tardy lark]

or can you buy it through work

[oblique trail]

I will not pay anything but could use a new chair

[mossy fox]

impulse buy cause it was 25% off on herman millers site

[thick fossil]

That's because enhance is broken. Passive 20% extra damage dogs. So if they proc right and get 5+ of the damn things...

[tardy lark]

theres an alarming amount of rng to enh

but the floor is giga high lol

[thick fossil]

I don't know about that

[tardy lark]

psychopaths playing even more rng wolves in keys is mental

[thick fossil]

It's harder than paladin, but that's a low bar.

[mossy fox]

but ye ive had a used aeron for like 7 years now and im sure embody will be built similar

12yr warranty is kinda nuts too

[mossy fox]

is this what they do to do silly numbers on mists 1st boss

[thick fossil]

Yar

I've also learned the hard way, 99% of mages at 12 key level are bait.

[mossy fox]

the aeron is an absolute unit

bet it would cost a lot to ship to dk

[oblique trail]

I've wanted one for years but even used is too much for a students income..

[warm crag]

theft is the only option left..

[oblique trail]

I will steal your chair

[mossy fox]

it's like 20kg iirc

[oblique trail]

Let me in

It has wheels

It can roll

[warm crag]

Nooo!

do not steal my chair

[mossy fox]

maybe i can roll it all the way to denmark for u

[oblique trail]

The water will make it a bit problematic

[warm crag]

How will you roll all the way to denmarkien with it

[thick fossil]

I just had to get a new chair. Fucking cheap ass Anda blood moon.

I can't afford a Herman Miller.

[warm crag]

@clever belfry cheap ass bitch

[radiant plank]

you guys sitting on chairs??

[mossy fox]

true...

[radiant plank]

I have raided 2 tiers sitting on the floor

[clever belfry]

what

[mossy fox]

floorpov?

[radiant plank]

Legit floorpov

[warm crag]

read 1 message above pinged message noob

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/back-hurts-back-pain-stretching-out-old-bones-rough-day-gif-18024359

[sudden tusk]

birdman biller

[clever belfry]

bro why am i getting cooked

but i have a HM

im not a cheap ass

[mossy fox]

which one andadada

[warm crag]

herman miller skyholdian meetup

[thick fossil]

It's the sac man.

[clever belfry]

aeron

[sudden tusk]

not on the right character

[worldly tendon]

Hey guys, is the Ovinax trinket a sim trap or is it viable? Got it from vault but I'm considering just using my regular 626 sacbrood rather than the Ovinax one

[sudden tusk]

sacbrood better at ilvl in 99% of situations

[thick fossil]

Don't worry, I had 5 mythic choices and ended up just replacing mythic tier chest.

[gleaming siren]

I am but a cheap ass HM haver

[oblique trail]

Everyone in the universe ig has a HM

[thick fossil]

Not true

I am hardstuck Anda.

[clever belfry]

sorry to hear this

[sudden tusk]

i have some shit i got for like 70 bucks at the local office place

[thick fossil]

Maybe if I didn't buy a 5k instrument I'd have money. Lol

[mossy fox]

nice

[clever belfry]

3months old from some office sell off

hidden tech

not v hidden

[thick fossil]

Sadly my job doesn't buy extremely good office chairs. That and I'd prolly get court martial if I yoinked one.

[bitter palm]

i stole mine

[warm crag]

this is where you purchase lightly shat office chair

[sudden tusk]

have a good day EU mens

and womens

its bedge time

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[thick fossil]

I'm not EU, I'm NA. Just in the gym.

[sudden tusk]

ITS 6 AM YOU SHUOLD BE IN BED

[thick fossil]

I'm in the military, sleep is not a thing!

[sudden tusk]

IF YOU ARE PST it might be 3 am which however could be fine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1304357622866247772/Banezi_chomp.gif

[thick fossil]

It's 7am here, I'm on Atlantic time.

[sudden tusk]

so angrey im gonna chomp banezi now

[thick fossil]

[last sparrow]

really dumb question but can we use two crafted rings? the same no embellishment

[fickle bluff]

yes

[thick fossil]

don't bother though, onyx annulet 2.0 is coming in a few weeks.

[twilit harbor]

you'll get a free, and probably better, ring in a couple of weeks with 10.0.7

so your crests may be better spent on another slot

[modest hollow]

I have a couple of trinkets in my bags, and im not sure which one is better for mythic, Ovi`nax mercurial egg, Void Pactstone, oppressive Orators Larynx and shadow-binding ritual knife

which one should i use for mythic +?

[warm crag]

probs knife and whatever you want and then farm out khardos or skarmorak

[last sparrow]

ohh that makes so much sense, will just craft a belt then

[twilit harbor]

good idea, no one wants to be the chump taking a belt from vault

and if one does show up, with no other good choices, you can just make a socket for your crafted belt instead!

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[broken peak]

is it better to craft 2 636 rings or should i just go with an offpiece? (all of them are 619)

[sullen dove]

crafting 2 bit silly

can do a fun little manipulation of the game systems to upgrade a second ring for free

if you recraft the 636 with 2 diff missives

[golden hare]

you will be band @sullen dove

[sullen dove]

sez who

[golden hare]

i

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

its over

[fast mural]

Get a champion track ansurekt ring and its gonna be better than a crafted one

[summer quail]

idk crafted sims better than heroic ansurek for me

[forest python]

lads quick question, if i mark the option select all vault items on raidbots, it sims every item to see which one gives me the best overall damage?

cause ive tried to sim if i should take bis ring or weapon on myth, but i dunno wich one gives better dps since i have crap rings

[night relic]

dont even have to recraft

just make an order

[broken peak]

but the crafted rings arent unique anymore right?

[fading sky]

SO a heroic ansurekk ring is insane ?

[summer quail]

i mean yeah it's pretty good, but you should always sim. crafted sims higher than hc ansurek ring for me

not that i have a crafted ring, i'm low on crests

[fading sky]

hehe

i have neither, its mainly the time invested getting a fucking PUG KILL

on queen every week

[fast mural]

Not sure , I just know ian't get rid of my 619 ansu ring

[pale hornet]

hey, should I take myth sureki and replace my myth keychain or I should just take myth chest or legs to upgrade them from hero.. is sureki that worth it 🤔

[fading sky]

Sureki is rare

[summer quail]

mythic ringworm is also simming within margin of mythic ansurek ring for me

[modest hollow]

its better to use ravager as mountain thane, or bladestorm?

[summer quail]

ravager

[modest hollow]

recless abandon or anger management?

[summer quail]

reckless abandon is more damage, anger management is more fun

[hollow elk]

What haste % are yall staying at?

[wraith wasp]

Anger management for consistent bursts, RA for BIG DAAAM

[fading sky]

what ever haste i get

33% buffed atm

28%

[thick fossil]

Why are ppl thinking of crafting 2 rings when the new Annulet is coming?

I'm sure everyone will "love" it, but meh whatever. I'm too bitter to care.

[fading sky]

hmm

i wanna craft 1 ring

coz i dont play raid

and mby amulet if i dont get lucky in vault soon

[thick fossil]

Even if you don't raid there are plenty of decent rings in M+.

[coral sage]

whats best slayer m+ build right now?

[thick fossil]

Only ring that stands out as better then the rest is Queen Ansurek one.

[summer quail]

even that is not guaranteed. ringworm sims the same for me

[warm crag]

get better items or

[summer quail]

chances of getting better items are small

[warm crag]

idk what kinda gear you're wearing so ansurek ring isnt insanely good for oyu

[coral sage]

?

[rocky wharf]

626 delve ring beat 619 queen ring for me this week

[summer quail]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/draenor/Mutou it is insanely good, but ringworm mythic sims within margin

[rocky wharf]

By about 4k

[lime plaza]

EU vault

[thick fossil]

Yeah, it's only the proc that would be a reason to get it. You'd have to shift stats around on other gear.

[summer quail]

@warm crag

[warm crag]

632 treach

[summer quail]

yeah, gonna upgrade it today

[warm crag]

are you sure its not replacing the boe

[summer quail]

yeah says finger 2

[warm crag]

idk ur stats probs suck for it then

[unreal onyx]

Hc Queen ring also only simmed marginally better than other rings for me

Like 2k dps upgrade

[summer quail]

very likely because i have so little vers without the boe ring

[fading sky]

muto having the Boe ring

[unreal onyx]

I also had the boe ring before

Queen ring simmed like 20k dps upgrade, then I bought boe and it plummited

[summer quail]

we've had alot of that ring drop in raid, no helmet tho 😦

[unreal onyx]

Just buy helmet

[summer quail]

i'm poor

[unreal onyx]

I bought every usable myth boe

Helm haste/mast, boots haste/mast

Couldn’t be better

[summer quail]

tbf boe boots are basically identical to 2nd boss boots, tiny bit more mastery

[unreal onyx]

The 2nd boss boots dropped 4 times now, and I never got them that’s why I said fuck it and just bought boe

Didnt wanna get cucked out of them anymore

[simple mural]

You can’t upgrade boe boots though right?

[summer quail]

ofc you can

[unreal onyx]

You can

They‘re just a buyable mythic piece of loot

[simple mural]

Weird, when I looked at them on the AH it didn’t show an upgrade track but that’s good to know lol

[summer quail]

just make sure you buy the mythic version

[unreal onyx]

You gotta go on the actual listing, the search page doesn’t show it

[simple mural]

Ohhh gotcha

[unreal onyx]

There‘s 4 listings, each for the difficulties but once you go into the listing you can see the track

Myth boe fuck good

Free gear for whale

[fading sky]

i presumed u bought like a big brain

[unreal onyx]

I buy boe‘s on high pop servers and sell on my low pop for at least double the price

600k myth boots I sold for like 1.5mil

[fading sky]

kek

fr?

low pop servers rule man 😄

hmm ring is pretty cheap atm

[summer quail]

nah i basically raid log and don't touch wow outside of it. just gotta make sure i have enough crests for when we actually prog bosses

[fading sky]

530k

not bad for a boe ring

hmm and now im contemplating buying it

[fossil hatch]

mists 10 monk diff Pog

[fading sky]

3% no ?

is 3%

[fossil hatch]

3 i thought 5

xd

[summer quail]

monk is still 5

[fossil hatch]

ye dh only got nerfed no

[summer quail]

dh and mage

[clever belfry]

monk buff still weakest raid buff

xd

[coral sage]

mountain?

[dusty knoll]

guys im in weird spot where i've cleared raid this week and still rocking 626 off-hand and im thinking if i should craft second weapon, but if i do it i will 100% get it next week vault

did some sims https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fB2TTM1nTMyaQ2pG1WAPej

[ancient quiver]

Just make one

If u get in vault oh well

[ivory topaz]

guys can i check how do i catalyst a GV item from simbot?

[ancient quiver]

Late enough where sparks not super important

[clever belfry]

press little plus

[dusty knoll]

or should i just go with the wrist since its not that much less dps and i would be rocking them for a while

[ivory topaz]

i tried it on a crit vers ring but it cant seem to catalyst it omgg

[ancient quiver]

Did u burn a spark somewhere

[ivory topaz]

i feel like an idiot

i cant catalyst a ring huh

[clever belfry]

no

[ancient quiver]

Nop

[clever belfry]

theres no ring cata

[wraith wasp]

Nuh

[ivory topaz]

can you guys pretend i didnt ask

please

i feel like i dropped some io asking that

[fading sky]

Cata ansurek ring

😉

[wraith wasp]

There is. It's called Jewelcrafting

[ivory topaz]

lol fuhhhhh i only got rings for my 10s GV OMGGGGGGG

[ancient quiver]

I will remember

[wraith wasp]

Serious btw, these guys don't forget anything

[ivory topaz]

nice knowing you guys!

GREAT WAY TO GET AQUAINTED HUH

[chrome plover]

🫡

[ancient quiver]

It's OK it's just in a folder for when u start winning a argument vs me

🗄️

(I'm usually wrong i need these)

[thick fossil]

Who's ready for jewelry MOG?

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[ancient quiver]

How is that gunna work btw like arr older ones getting mog

[thick fossil]

No

[ancient quiver]

So just new stuff?

[thick fossil]

Just the Onyx annulet 2.0

[ancient quiver]

Lmao

[thick fossil]

Though it would not surprise me if they start bringing more in.

Mog does seem to be the true end game.

[ancient quiver]

Just leme dye armor diff colors

Instead of shipping 30 diff armor recolor per season

[thick fossil]

That would prolly be the biggest successful and universally loved mog change they could make.

That and just getting rid of SMF and making it mog option.

[ancient quiver]

Just make smf the default because farming 2x 2h every season stinks and let u mog 1h into 2h

[thick fossil]

Fuck that, titans grip is

[ancient quiver]

I'm sure they could fix it some other way I'm not sure how tho

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-know-the-way-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-do-you-know-de-wae-gif-19178626

[ancient quiver]

4sparks for wep is sick

Best solution I got is make a craft able 2h wirh the offhand tag and it costs less sparks

Or just look one from raid week 1

[fading sky]

well fuck the sparks

the MARKS

[thick fossil]

Thankfully they put a 2h weapon on the first boss of raid this time.

[fading sky]

is the insane part as well

[ancient quiver]

True

[fading sky]

this time?

almost always no ?

[thick fossil]

90 crests for a 636 token does suck.

[fading sky]

yeah for a 2nd 2h

like if u can upgrade for free

why cant u get as u said a "oh" token for free as well 😄

[clever belfry]

i mean u can also uppie

1h for free

:)

[clever path]

I still think fury just needs the ability to mirror its main hand into its off hand. It’s so painful getting 2 weapons every tier

[ancient quiver]

That would be cook af

Cool*

[thick fossil]

Hmm most of Shadowlands it was 3-4 bosses. DF was also a little way in. Abberrus being the big one of delay, and tier 3
... well at least it was a legendary.

[ancient quiver]

Probably make the offhand not proc on hit effects if it's mirrored

Otherwise that could be insane

Or just effects period

[chrome plover]

that’d be cool if it dropped

[ancient quiver]

Real

[chrome plover]

we’re how many weeks deep? and this week we’re extending while I still have a 626 off hand

[glad coyote]

Believe we are currently on week 9?

[fossil hatch]

always

[chrome plover]

yep I have 8 ulgrax kills

won’t see a 9th til annie dies

[fading sky]

abberus 1st boss had

[dusky anchor]

what do i put on this socket guys?

[obtuse lily]

imagine the mirror items from like path of exile omg

[fading sky]

nothing ?

[clever path]

Yeah pretty much my thoughts. Would simplify gearing for fury and fix most issues with crests and spending costs

[glad coyote]

So what time does news drop today?

For the new fordibben reach

[obtuse lily]

quick q for fellow furies on ovinax m: do you get any bops or timelessness to help with aggro? even if i wait like 3 sec i still get spooders sometimes
or is this a tank issue?

[chrome plover]

yeah I get the Aug thing

if I don’t have it there are sometimes issues

[ancient quiver]

Lot of 2h have less stats because the effect tho so that would be awkward for gearing but I guess it would.mean fury bis would be diff then others

[obtuse lily]

yeah i see the same on a lot of logs of first ovinax kills at least to play aug threat reduce, but some other logs where they dont have it they tend to be 3 tanking

[chrome plover]

I was getting a bop on the first adds initially but I stopped needing it

[obtuse lily]

im not looking at the top logs as those are probably not first / prog kills right 😄

[chrome plover]

right

idk see what your tanks are pressing early and maybe you can help them press a high threat gen button first

not really much you can do apart from wait longer if it’s a consistent issue

[obtuse lily]

wait longer = those pesky rets get rid of adds from a distance

[chrome plover]

yea

get a bop from said pesky rets on sets where you have full cds

[obtuse lily]

we'll see how it is now that i have another fury buddy

who of us dies first

[chrome plover]

maybe you’ll split the threat

[obtuse lily]

[clever path]

Man I love fury being one of the few true melee classes and yet blizz wanted to nerf us in the ground this tier. Glad we aren’t doing bad now felt horrible for a while

“No range for you, no damage for you, no utility for you” blizzard to warriors kek

[obtuse lily]

in m+ i still feel kinda bad sometimes when ret goes brrrr on every single pack xD

but yeahhh

[clever path]

Ret is op and needs nerfs. The fact it’s ranged melee means its numbers need to be tuned lower to compensate

It’s the same issue bm hunters have. When they are strong they are always too strong because you can do your full rotation moving at full speed 40 yards away. But when they are weak hunters cry saying they aren’t viable.

[ancient quiver]

The price we pay to look bad ass

[clever path]

Like my dudes. You can’t have the easiest class in the game also be the best. Otherwise what’s the point in playing anything else

[ancient quiver]

Casuals play longer with bm and ret are good

Real true

[clever path]

I mean I can’t argue with that

Making easy classes good is an easy way to inflate player count in certain content

[thick fossil]

Look at ret paladins.... like cockroaches.

Wait no, cockroaches can usually stay alive better than most Ret players.

Mages while not as easy as ret are equally trap classes.

[ancient quiver]

True mages are tanks of dps u gotta learn and actively think about when u use defecives or u just die

Usually they just dead

[clever path]

I think my favorite thing that happened this tier was my guild had a bm hunter that would go on daily rants about why bm should be top dps. So glad that dude is gone

[thick fossil]

Hand a mage brick stone vaults 12. Just died on every slam of the first boss.

[keen fulcrum]

Why in the fuck do we take damage from acid pools even heroic leaping over them...

[thick fossil]

I'd hate to see em on Skarmarok.

[balmy shore]

silken court xd

[clever belfry]

why would u play thane AM

[thick fossil]

Tradovah is a shit boss. That's why.

[keen fulcrum]

Happened to me on M Rash last night

Just fuckin rage inducing😭

[thick fossil]

Hmm, I've never taken damage leaping over those.

[balmy shore]

who me

[ancient quiver]

Same

[clever belfry]

i played thane am

[balmy shore]

i was playing thane ra

is bad?

[clever belfry]

dont think so

[ancient quiver]

Is good

[balmy shore]

[dire oak]

I used the droptimizer in nerub palace heroic and it says the sikran necklace and nexus princess trinket its an upgrade for me but how is that possible ? Both my trinkets are BIS and mythic. And the necklace gives me more haste than mastery

[thick fossil]

Am Thane is less than RA. It just allows you to have something to send on every pull.

[restive peak]

I am also RA thaning silken, seems to be BIS

[balmy shore]

i didn’t realize anda was am

brain bad

[restive peak]

Also making 15/16 keys easier than AM or slayer, thane is def the play

Anda hates warriors

[clever belfry]

no it was just funny

[sour frigate]

I died cuz it damaged me 5 times

[balmy shore]

i just woke up gm :3

[clever belfry]

true king spec

[thick fossil]

The stats Transmitter can give is vastly more than those trinkets. It's the payoff for the mini game.

[restive peak]

I tried AM, my boss dam was so meh, I played slayer too and just didn't feel as good

[clever belfry]

nothing will ever beat thane AM zerker torment split cd cook tho

[balmy shore]

i should probably try slayer to see if i like it or not but i’ve only tried thane ra

he’s a gourmet mf chef

[restive peak]

I'm debating dropping of for double VC now that we're sub 10%

For my ego

But we'll see

[balmy shore]

oh maybe i’m running a bad build

[clever belfry]

idk i think boss should die before 2nd stun now

so VC maybe not the king

[warm crag]

why

[balmy shore]

i think i’m running anda’s cook but with RA

[clever belfry]

cause extra buff and inf gear hack?

[thick fossil]

It's a lot more ST damage, but on Arakara OF is prolly better.

[warm crag]

i dont think that increases damage for a first kill enough to make the 2nd stun not happen

[radiant plank]

Me when

spear demolish

[restive peak]

Talkin about silken specifically

[clever belfry]

fuck off arms player

[balmy shore]

bye

[dire oak]

I thought 13 items levels would pay better off but i guess i was wrong

[warm crag]

like every single court first kill has homing ranged into melee camp issues apparently

[restive peak]

I swapped back to OF even as RA thane for M+, yeah

[clever belfry]

blue group try to give red group space on last set challenge

impossible

[restive peak]

Bro our hunter has killed me

Like 45 times

On prog

[clever belfry]

or was it the other way

idfk

bro

i dont like colors

[restive peak]

YOU'RE A HUNTER MOVE AND SHOOT BRO

[radiant plank]

I am getting bullied in fury chat

[balmy shore]

are you colorblind anda

[thick fossil]

Gotta remember that Transmitter is pure strength, not secondary.

[clever belfry]

not blind, but i have defficiency

[restive peak]

We bully you out of love booboo

How's the gettin jacked train goin

[radiant plank]

[radiant plank]

My back is bigger than ever

But my chest is lacking

[restive peak]

ATTTA BOIII

[radiant plank]

out of all

[balmy shore]

hell yea

[thick fossil]

Nexus princess lines?

[balmy shore]

oh no the chest lacking

[warm crag]

how it should be

[radiant plank]

My milkers small :(

[restive peak]

Hmm, shall DM

[warm crag]

how it was for me

[balmy shore]

[clever belfry]

ye same

[warm crag]

thank you red team terrorists

[balmy shore]

this is sus

[ancient quiver]

Squidward strat

[restive peak]

Team blue bro

We ball

Blue ball

[balmy shore]

do u guys get squished on the first drop

i feel like i am squished

as blue

[restive peak]

I claimed my spot day 1

And refuse to move for others now, so we've got a good flow goin

😛

[balmy shore]

LOL

i kind of bully our dh off

so i can hit

[restive peak]

We have a feral man he can back up a sec

[balmy shore]

true

[ancient quiver]

Tell him boomy weave

[radiant plank]

Got angrily spam pinged on ovinax today

GOt egg break

went to an egg at the same time as another guy

stood there till 2 seconds left

he blinked to another

and pinged me for a min straight

[dire badge]

ping

[balmy shore]

on heroic or??

[radiant plank]

on heroic

[drifting igloo]

Its ok mage opinions dont matter

[radiant plank]

my 617 warrior is unable to acquire invites to mythic alt clears

if outside of guild

[dire badge]

dude I’ll never do a key with a mage again

unless friendo and even then only fill

[balmy shore]

do mages have a rep

[radiant plank]

of being ass

yes

[dire badge]

yeah a bad rep of doing healer damage

[balmy shore]

one of our mages is giga huge so i never think about it

[drifting igloo]

Mage brain is a thing

[dire badge]

pug mages are worse than pug augs

[radiant plank]

Pug mages might just be the worst animals on earth

[balmy shore]

i guess i haven’t pugged much this tier

[dire badge]

happy for you

[balmy shore]

my mental is safe

[radiant plank]

happy for you

[balmy shore]

thank u

[undone flower]

I witnessed a pal prot fotm in a grim this morning, it was horrible

[dire badge]

got to 2.6k on eu mostly pugging and now I’m doing it in na cause I hate myself

[balmy shore]

are u ok

[dire badge]

no

[balmy shore]

seek help

[smoky sigil]

feel like mages and rogues are 20/80 bad

[balmy shore]

p sure na pugging is worse than eu pugging

[radiant plank]

Prot pal fotms are horror story material nad most of them not knowing that they need to WoG for magic tank bustert

[drifting igloo]

I would also be a prot pala fotm but the game doesnt wanna give me a shield

It knows

[dire badge]

I’m sure I can find some sexy dashing men to carry me in keys surely

[undone flower]

He died from first boss melees and then in second boss room pulled left and right pack, ofc we died

[dire badge]

[radiant plank]

Just ping lincc

he loves carrying

[last bobcat]

Ive been so unlucky with the weapons. Still dont have mythic track one, only one crafted 636 and 626 offhand.
So my question is - can i somehow sim how big of an upgrade would be a 636 offhand if i dont have the weapon?
im thinking about spending this weeks crests for that

[warm crag]

Linc is woke

[dire badge]

oh no

[chrome plover]

Top gear

[drifting igloo]

Yes, in top gear

[dire badge]

not the mindvirus

[warm crag]

Add a crafted 636 as an option in top gear and Sim that

[chrome plover]

Utter woke nonsense

[dire badge]

utter woke nonsense

https://tenor.com/view/woke-no-no-woke-gif-9834212892039564445

[balmy shore]

utter woke nonsense

[proud egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g1i5hmek8zBuJePEbNyX6t
hey guys, is going for the neck the right thing to do, even though legs are a way bigger upgrade?

[dire badge]

man woke is so funny

[smoky sigil]

getting legs are easier

[balmy shore]

i’m asleep

[smoky sigil]

and they're tiered anyways, so i would go neck personally

[golden hare]

can't do funny anymore.., because of woke.

[radiant plank]

socket angle ngl

xff

[dire badge]

too real

[warm crag]

You are Mr woke

[dire badge]

mwoke

[balmy shore]

neck doesn’t have the effect tho

[warm crag]

The woke mind virus

It killed ansurek

[radiant plank]

hmm do I take bad neck instead of this bis neck I have already

thinks

[balmy shore]

hero track sureiki or whatever it’s called is good

[balmy shore]

yes

do it

[radiant plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/987514374547726387/image0.gif

[dire badge]

he’s got bis neck

[balmy shore]

disgusting

[warm crag]

100k dps

[smoky sigil]

wtf do you mean bad neck?

heavy mastery + haste

[balmy shore]

its not the one with vers effect

[radiant plank]

but he has bis neck

[chrome plover]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[radiant plank]

and the neck he has is at 639 simming within variance

for him

xdd

[smoky sigil]

its BIS in myth

[thick fossil]

Was the rogue the one that won the streamer carry?

[chrome plover]

legs or socket

[radiant plank]

Taking this is a massive troll

[balmy shore]

legs if ur not anticipating getting them any time soon but socket if yes

[chrome plover]

I almost took my last socket this week

but decided to take arms ring

[thick fossil]

Why? It's one of the best non-raid choices out there.

[balmy shore]

wowee chawiee

[radiant plank]

if u see the colour is blue on raidbot

this means that its simming within variance

and not a real upgrade

[thick fossil]

What are their other options?

[balmy shore]

leg

socket

[chrome plover]

socket is like 4.5-5k for me so more than double neck

[radiant plank]

its hold vault angle

[chrome plover]

yeah probably

[radiant plank]

if this guy raids mythic

[thick fossil]

Oh, mythic tier legs are indeed the best choice.

[radiant plank]

even pugs mythic

[chrome plover]

or ethical ask raid if anyone else is getting legs this week angle

[radiant plank]

since leg from 2nd boss

can catalyst

[thick fossil]

Fair

[radiant plank]

he has the wrist + 639 helm to socket anw

[chrome plover]

this is the week I upgrade wrist to 636

can’t believe it

[radiant plank]

I did today too

[chrome plover]

I think I’m fucked until weekend

no time to get the 75 crests I need

[radiant plank]

buy with hc crests

and pug last two

[chrome plover]

yeah that’s a shout actually I can probs buy 15 after last two

and that’s already 45

so op

[balmy shore]

i think it’s next week for me zz

still have hands to upgrade

[summer quail]

it's next week for me as well

[balmy shore]

and chest

[summer quail]

next week, then i can perma raidlog forever(coz i'm not getting brood ring)

[balmy shore]

oh u mean this one :3

[ancient quiver]

[young swan]

stop

[summer quail]

yeah that one, it's okay i have this one

[balmy shore]

hi xan xan

[young swan]

gm

[nimble ermine]

ah warrior dev xan is here

[young swan]

yes yes

[summer quail]

honestly carnage is a cook

[balmy shore]

gm

[nimble ermine]

what even happened after that day

[young swan]

im so not used to being awake rn

[balmy shore]

it’s 9:30!!!

[young swan]

too early

[balmy shore]

???

[nimble ermine]

i just non stop played balatro i didnt even check if anything came out of that fictional rework

[young swan]

nah crit is gonna react at some point

i changed a bunch of stuff

but I'm dry for ideas now

[restive peak]

This could not be more inaccurate but love you Spongers

[restive peak]

Bro I will turn this car around

[summer quail]

is it to pick walhe up and carry him?

[radiant plank]

Long drive

[nimble ermine]

not surprised, you went all out on that

[summer quail]

did you change the 2 charges bt talent, coz that was boring af compared to the other 2 talents

[young swan]

somewhat

[nimble ermine]

2 bt is sick man idk what u on

[thick fossil]

10:30 where I am.

[summer quail]

i mean compared to the other 2? nahh

[young swan]

its not a t3 gate talent anymore

[thick fossil]

Atlantic time zone for the Dub.

[dire badge]

ocean time isn’t real

[chrome plover]

it’s almost 3pm wake up sheeple

[south kayak]

It’s 7 pm

[eager thorn]

Time isn’t real

[summer quail]

you're not real

[eager thorn]

Facts

[mossy fox]

did you change it