i was enrage for 81% of the dj (and we died a bit)
#fury
unreal cosmos
hybrid terrace
think u have the same problem as mee pressing to much rampage :;D
unreal cosmos
ah perhaps i press it more than just to refresh reckless abandon you mean ?
hum perhaps yeah, could be
restive peak
Ramp should be every 3rd GCD when possible as RA as well, except if you’re in AOE and stacks drop
silk prairie
do you guys think i should take the gloves or the trinket/shard? current trinkets are champion mark and veteran quickwick candlestick, and current gloves are 5/8 champion
restive peak
You can also ramp>CB>RB>BB>clap, more optimal, but also minor
restive peak
do you guys think i should take the gloves or the trinket/shard? current trinket...
Take skarm
unreal cosmos
will try thanks
sullen dove
so does this thing function or naw, like the highest simming trinket out of raid even including mythic mandate but just seems so boring
cant imagine using it is actually that hard just on use with cds when youre under 20 stacks of one or somethin
but replacing 626 knife is kinda... idk
sullen dove
ah yes marvelous details breakdown screenshot 
also wow that is a lot of clap damage
think theres no way it should ever come close to thunder blast
let alone be above it
unreal cosmos
don't know if you're ironic 😄
unreal cosmos
i didn't use any cooldown, was trying to feel just the ramp>CB>RB>BB>clap perhaps that's the reason for the clap and thunderblast
sullen dove
o if you dont hit avatar to get some free buffed blasts maybe
unreal cosmos
yes sorry, should have said so
boreal cairn
Purposely playing the class not optimally then asking if breakdowns looks better is kinda silly no?
sullen dove
eh depends the abilities youre comparing
like in this instance seems his original ss ramp was way higher than other buttons but think after being told to hit bb and cb before every ramp its a bit better
unreal cosmos
like in this instance seems his original ss ramp was way higher than other butto...
when you say "a bit", bloodbath should be top ability ?
sullen dove
i think its ramp for both hero talents now
since it got buffed like 15 times
but like yea bb/cb being closer is good
unreal cosmos
thanks mate, will try to mix cooldown now
sullen dove
the first ss where ramp is like 50% ahead of bb or cb was def more off
but yea newer ss looks good i think in that front
unreal cosmos
Thanks for the answers
sullen hemlock
Did they stop allowing bladestorm to be used in macros or something?
warm crag
no, but why are you trying to macro bladestorm to something else?
sullen hemlock
yeah, avatar and recklessness cause im lazy
suddenly stopped allowing me to use bladestorm in any macro
even on its own
warm crag
if anything you'd macro roar into ava reck, macroing it to bladestorm like that is kinda bad
are you sure you're talented into bladestorm?
sullen hemlock
Yeah deffo talented into it, I can use it on its regular button, just not in a macro
and yes I am bad
warm crag
show macro
hardy cargo
that sounds like the macro has something wrong in it
sullen hemlock
/cast recklessness
/cast avatar
/cast bladestorm
it worked up until like a day ago
I cannot make sense of it
okay I think its when I switched to MT from slayer
it works with slayer, but not MT
warm crag
why would you have bladestorm talented as mountain thane
sullen hemlock
I am bad
modest condor
lol
warm crag
and you're sure you have bladestorm talented, not ravager
sullen hemlock
definitely, it still works on its own button, just not a macro
vocal ridge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eu5MMgJaAsz9Uc3JtedQa4 what are we thinking for this vault? Sim thinks cloak is best upgrade but it has a chance to drop from raid. Though I'm not familiar with the Orator's larynx to know if it is hard to get full value from or has any quirks to it such as being on GCD or something. Likely will kill first four on mythic this week. Legs I considered for speed but no catalyst charge (and already have 639 tier legs)
feral ivy
taking a chance here but i have this WA anyone know what its for lol
oblique trail
It's to cross-compare versions of your WAs in raid
modest condor
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eu5MMgJaAsz9Uc3JtedQa4 what are we thinki...
clear raid, if you loot cloak take socket, if you dont loot cloak take cloak
warm crag
the macro you posted works for slayer and thane on my end
oblique trail
So a single person can use a command then see what everyones version is of the general assignment WA pack for example
warm crag
idk why it wouldnt work shrug
oblique trail
Pretty sure Avatar bricks if you swap between Fury and Prot
Or can brick
@sullen hemlock
modest condor
remember when thunderblast couldnt proc if you swapped from prot to fury 
oblique trail
hero talents truly have been an experience of all time this expansion 👍
oblique trail
Pretty sure Avatar bricks if you swap between Fury and Prot
Aside from this, I haven't personally had issues between Thane and Slayer
sullen hemlock
maybe i need to reload, pretty sure talent changes shouldnt affect it but i'll check
warm crag
hero talents truly have been an experience of all time this expansion 👍
shrink a tiny tiny bit
oblique trail
Never
warm crag
okay
oblique trail
Meow :3
warm crag
wtf?
vocal ridge
clear raid, if you loot cloak take socket, if you dont loot cloak take cloak
You don't value the orator's larynx at all then?
vocal ridge
or just less value than a socket?
modest condor
no, i dont particularly value that
vocal ridge
reasonable I can understand that
vocal ridge
oh that's a lot more than i thought
warm crag
offhand wild hammer holy moly !!!
just pick the socket
and enchant avoidance or leech on wrists speed is not it
vocal ridge
BUT ZOOM ZOOM
feral ivy
anyone have a good dungeon teleport WA ?
slim pollen
I use "Teleport Menu" adds HS, TPs etc. to your game menu (Esc)
Altho, it's not a WA, but an addon on its own
midnight jackal
do you guys only sim using Patchwerk? I'm getting fairly different gear upgrade results depending on the mode.
oblique trail
midnight jackal
yeah, that's what I usually do as well. good to know I'm not the only one
teal grove
hey, what warrior spec is best to open weekly vault for biggest chance to get ara kara trinket sacbrood
oblique trail
Arms
midnight jackal
fury can get 1hander so that's no bueno
oblique trail
Always be in Arms lootspec, unless you specifically want a 1hander for prot
midnight jackal
so arms it is
teal grove
thank you
mighty hull
how accurate are the sims on that trinket?
mighty hull
egg
says it outperforms heroic sacrbrood by .7%
are they standing still the whole time
median dust
RIP. Kicked from Raid group because I had green parses on mythic kills lol. Was pugging when I got the killed and only green parsed because it took almost 8 minutes to kill first boss : /
mighty hull
did you set the sim to take movement into account?
I don't see movement under sim options unless im missing it
whole yacht
mighty hull
it's the exact same dps increase for all 3
interesting
wonder if the apl already does a mix of standing still and movement
modest condor
you can check by doing a quick sim and looking at the timeline
see how many stacks of each buff it has
whole yacht
big oof
edgy widget
wonder if the apl already does a mix of standing still and movement
by default, it starts with 20 primary stacks and "moves" whenever you go over 20 after the pull (when stacks aren't frozen due to the on-use, of course)
- obviously this is very specific and min/maxed in a way that you can't really replicate all the time, so I'd take it with a grain of salt
You can customize it with
thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_initial_primary_stacks=0 - 30 (default 20)
thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_desired_primary_stacks=0-30 (default 20)
There's currently no function for a variable amount of stacks though, so I would err on the side of less optimized than more
cinder shale
What is this dungeon timer?
mighty hull
by default, it starts with 20 primary stacks and "moves" whenever you go over 20...
okay that makes sense thanks
kinda wish I could play around with it in game too and peak at details to get a feel for the variance
mighty hull
but can't do that while it's sitting in the vault
hasty tide
fucking hate this game
whole yacht
4th week in a row
welcome to my world brother
hasty tide
its what made me quit during BFA
outside of arbitrary IO grind, no meaningful ways to help yourself sometimes
chilly fractal
whole yacht
why is Fury not allowed to be that insane
because that would be fun
frail trout
well, I think my only choice is the egg here based on my sim
I have a 619 ara kara trinket as my passive trinket rn
but I want to know how can I modify the sim settings that control the eggs usage?
I'm unlikely to play a perfect 20/10 in real mythic content
and I don't want the sim to reflect the perfect stack setup since its not realistic for me as a player
I don't see any sim options concerning this trinket so it must be an extra line command I'm suppose to put myself in the advanced section
whole yacht
and I don't want the sim to reflect the perfect stack setup since its not realis...
its not realistic for hardly anyone. if anyone at all.
frail trout
thats a heroic ringworm
whole yacht
yes. it is
whole yacht
ah didnt know you already have it
north edge
is it worth taking a 2nd 239 wep
frail trout
also they are releasing a new ring pretty soon ish
north edge
when i have 636 crafted
and a 639 mh
the 639 wep is haste vers stated, im thinking its prob not worth losing the mastery from the 636
whole yacht
also they are releasing a new ring pretty soon ish
yeah idk how i feel about it. will see when its released
wondering if itll be new ring + ansurek ring
or new ring + something else
rotund ginkgo
What is this dungeon timer?
which dung has rashanan?
snow edge
whole yacht
i was 99% sure that it was grim batol
frail trout
the closest thing I found to the command was this, but I'm not sure where to insert the stack number
cinder shale
I meant the actual timer not what dungeon is that timer for
frail trout
bless, thanks!
manic pelican
Maaaan I want to like the treacherous trapsmeme’r but I feel like I loose too much uptime activating it vs finding it amidst other effects, maneuvering questionably around mechanics to activate
oblique trail
The ball/pad always spawns front right of where your character is facing
warm crag
treacherous trapsmeme’r
oblique trail
So you can pre-turn your character to spawn it in a better place
clever belfry
@oblique trail boss die?
clever belfry
sad.
oblique trail
We were simply too poopy
sterile saffron
organ sims highest for me, but unsure about having mark and organ as trinkets, basically shard is a slight dps loss from organ and morsel masher would be my 2nd, so i'd lose my weapon with embellish and have to go dawnthread on 2 pieces
any ideas if dawnthread sims correctly or is even worth if this is the case? The trinket would be replacing a 619 champ sac
lilac plinth
frigid geyser
We going slayer or thane for raid?
whole yacht
slayer
frigid geyser
ty
lean heart
3 weapons
analog jolt
Hey guys/gals, noob here (just started playing this xpac) and im curious to get thoughts on what I should pull from vault? I'm leaning poisoned pact, since I feel like I could use catalyst on any pair of myth legs, and feel like waiting for transmitter may be the better option, but one of my guildies (not a warrior) was suggesting mad queens for the nuke effect. Again I'm new and trying to learn/get better so I appreciate any advice! My current trinks are champ sacbrood and hero ovinax. Rings are hero umbriss and champ circle of bone
here were my sim results w those 3 items max ilvl, obviously legs being the biggest jump due to myth track
waxen vale
checked search and mostly get prot answers - I know its minor af but what is our best tertiary lol. I keep playing around with different ones. I used to swear by speed but its not helping me much with the gem now
summer quail
Hey guys/gals, noob here (just started playing this xpac) and im curious to get ...
take poisoned pact anyday
analog jolt
take poisoned pact anyday
Gotcha, why is that? I know prolly a dumb question but want to understand/learn
whole yacht
the passive on it is a static 1% dmg
analog jolt
Fair enough. Thank you both!
frail trout
the less-than-optimal stack sims for the ovinax egg trinket frankly scare me
but the good news is that freezing the stacks doesn't put my other trinket on cd
so there's that I guess
ionic plaza
Huge sack
balmy shore
@clever belfry ty for ur cooldowns
minor shell
did they fix being able to leap out of last boss ara? or am I just bad died 2x to suck
warm crag
did it yday
if you're on NA and the xalatath affix that hastes boss casts if failed rotated in that could be the reason you're failing
torpid sand
whole yacht
Fury is too strong. Nerf it
void willow
Arms could do it 
bitter palm
whole yacht
Arms could do it <:okayge:917646812519739433>
copium
orchid iron
3 weeks of sockets has show devotion to the SAC GOD, SACS FOR THE SAC GOD
feral ivy
how do i make a macro to use "prismatic bauble" (toy) on something like rampage
gritty sigil
are these at all good if we have the queen ansurek ring or stick with algari mana oil?
also can anyone explain primary stat scaling for me, cuz i think i have a poor understanding. how im currently seeing it is a linear increase so like increasing my strength from 60k to 66k would be a 10% dps increase, but surely thats wrong because feast gives 446 primary on top of my 64,535 which is only a ~0.7% dps increase whereas my secondary stat from beledars bounty would give me a higher increase. ive never really looked into anything in WoW very deeply so trying to figure it all out now
summer quail
are these at all good if we have the queen ansurek ring or stick with algari man...
stick to algari mana oil
gritty sigil
👍
safe cradle
Hey everyone does anyone know what addon makes the dmg numbers kinda stack together/condense I hate hitting aoe and having numbers all over my screen and end up getting hit my stupid shit bc there’s numbers flying everywhere
young swan
prob nameplate SCT
safe cradle
Working on cleaning the ui up and making it cleaner
Also does anyone have a good warrior base pack I’m using Luthos or whatever it’s called but I feel like the enraged tracker is a bit wonky
young swan
I use revvez's pack
have to sub to him on twitch for it
most really nice WA/UI packs are like that
safe cradle
prob nameplate SCT
Is that a replacement for plater bc I’m currently using jundies
summer quail
Also does anyone have a good warrior base pack I’m using Luthos or whatever it’s...
i'm using luxthos, it's just a bit big so i downsized it
young swan
Is that a replacement for plater bc I’m currently using jundies
no its just for combat text
safe cradle
no its just for combat text
Thanks I’ll try it out
wispy dock
do u guys have a preference in m+ of AM vs RA?
safe cradle
Is it dbm, littlewigs or a mythic wa pack that gives kick callouts and frontals etc I use to have them but seemed to go away
signal peak
Hey, just wanted to say thank you to this community. You've helped me see strong parses, secure all my portals, and crush it in M+ daily. Thanks ya'll
young swan
Is it dbm, littlewigs or a mythic wa pack that gives kick callouts and frontals ...
almost certainly a WA pack
safe cradle
almost certainly a WA pack
Do you know if littlewigs or dbm interferes with it or nah
young swan
shouldnt
safe cradle
Haven’t swapped m+ build but is thane fury still out performing slayer fury or is it marginal
noble elm
safe cradle
Also I see people with the timer for bosses looking like this but mine is still default list of timers, is that just a dbm setting
sweet vessel
Hey everyone does anyone know what addon makes the dmg numbers kinda stack toget...
You could try input this in chat.
/console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 0
Should remove them entierly, maybe that's not what you wanted tho?
safe cradle
I’m gonna try condensing a bit before complete removal
Just need to do something for example first hallway in sv those frontals with all the dps going out are hard to see
lost saffron
You can just turn off dot numbers for example
in the settings
Other than that there is mkbt and xct+
But they rework damage numbers entirely
lost saffron
Also I see people with the timer for bosses looking like this but mine is still ...
Its a weakaura
Most people who raid in higher level guilds use bigwigs over dbm
USUALLY
but you CAN use both
there are just update differences which usually dont matter
unless you are one of the first few groups to see the boss
safe cradle
Most people who raid in higher level guilds use bigwigs over dbm
That’s where I get confused, I came to retail from classic and it was only dbm now there’s big/littlewigs and I had to turn off dbm completely bc it was interfering on h brood w markers saying wrong info
Does bigwigs = raid, littlewigs = m+
dire vigil
Wow, kinda tough decision. Do I replace myth track Ulgrax mace or upgrade hero track bis boots to myth track bis?
lost saffron
That’s where I get confused, I came to retail from classic and it was only dbm n...
Yes and you can turn off settings individually
safe cradle
Wow, kinda tough decision. Do I replace myth track Ulgrax mace or upgrade hero t...
Boots come from bloodhound yeah?
dire vigil
Boots come from bloodhound yeah?
yeah
safe cradle
If you’re consistently killing it it’ll go to you eventually might not see that weapon for a long time
High key jealous
dire vigil
of the wep?
lost saffron
Wow, kinda tough decision. Do I replace myth track Ulgrax mace or upgrade hero t...
Not even close you take the hammer 100% of the time
safe cradle
^ I was trying to say that w some context but yeah
May never see that weapon again in vault after rn
lost saffron
Nah no context
one is a bis item you get from this chest only
the other is a second boss drop
frail trout
my mastery is fucked but I'm wearing everything I should be according to my sim, F
haste is so high that my ovinax egg picks haste as the secondary
doesn't seem ideal at all for aoe
frail trout
well, I'm looking at a single target sim
I'm pretty sure I'd rather my mastery be higher for the aoe burst fights
sub 13k is a lot lower than what I had before
dire vigil
im simming rn
frail trout
but I can't really do anything about it until I get a mythic ovinax ring
pray for next weeks vault
lost saffron
Not really
haste is not a bad start in short aoe
unless it is like literally
mobs are dead after odyns fury
You cant really sim for any fight in the raid specifically
so you cant really know whats best
so all you can really do is take your st sim as a baseline and then make educated guesses
dire vigil
Boots are an 8.5k upgrade over 626 at 639 and Wild Hammer is about 3k upgrade over Ulg mace
lost saffron
Yes but boots are easy to get
safe cradle
This is the only way to get the 3k upgrade on the wep
Yes, bis is bis
safe cradle
They’ll drop next raid and tell raid lead to give
Say you’ll touch pp and it’s a guarantee
whole yacht
thats how i got my boots
heavy flax
another week, another no mythic ulgrax weapon 
lost saffron
Why do you want mythic ulgrax?
heavy flax
cuz i can't get a weapon from my vault either LOL
i hope for weapon in my vault first and then hope for weapon from ulgrax
it's like the backup hope
fluid cedar
any force of magma enjoyers in chat
lost saffron
tbh weapon is probably the last bis item you want from vault
heavy flax
but i haven't been seen a myth weapon in vault and i haven't seen the weapon drop from ulgrax in raid either
safe cradle
another dumb question but whenever i kick something it will say in chat "I kicked blah blah blah"
anyone know if thts an addon or wa or what
covert blaze
tribal rapids
was with a 630 ilvl
I am sure it could be higher, but it still feels good to gap everyone else bit
feral ivy
progging on princess... crazy fight
lost saffron
Princess is cool
summer quail
princess is nice, but for some reason without fail i always get the 2nd charges
prime badger
guys, ill craft either a boots or cloak, can you guys give me your opinion on what would be better ? on sim it say boots better, but i wonder if i drop it from the scond boss.
prime badger
thats so hot
🌶️
whole yacht
ghandi
lost saffron
guys, ill craft either a boots or cloak, can you guys give me your opinion on wh...
You can just buy BOE boots always
so boots should never be the first choice
in theory
but other than that
winter shoal
If you don't appreciate me at my 50 on brood, you don't deserve me at my 99 on sikran
lost saffron
if youre poor it doesnt matter, you will be able to craft the other one in a few weeks time
prime badger
thx
tepid solar
Random question, I parsed my first 95, but it doesn't show on my character page, only when you click for my list of encounters... Anyone know why that is?
tepid solar
It usually says on the front page not locked in... Sec
The stonevault
if you click it, it will show
tepid solar
nah, Ive never done an 11
tepid solar
unfortunately
uneven grotto
when it comes to mastery cap does it matter if im over 700 with alchemical going on it
or DR
tepid solar
the actual log is a 83
idk, my others were lower too and they usually get a bump based on key and other stuff
lost saffron
tbh idk, keys are just very od
d
because nobody logs them usually
The key parse is different from your damage parse in the actual key
tepid solar
I get it, I just like to track my improvement
winter shoal
when it comes to mastery cap does it matter if im over 700 with alchemical going...
Sim will tell you
uneven grotto
ty ty
lost saffron
The % on the character page is the key %
or rather
your damage log
but if you go into the key
its the key %
they are 2 different numbers
tepid solar
gotcha , that would make sense but the tank is the same thing he is my buddy and did higher in this one... idk maybe it will be fixed tomorrow
lost saffron
Nah for him its the same
log is 85 but the % is 95
If you clear a 10 you get a automatical 90+
shy iron
im very confused, simmed my war for dungeons, says i should be doing 1.7m and im pulling a consistent 1.2m overall. also says BT should be tied with Ramp, but everywhere i read says crushing blows takes prio over BT
should i be prio BT more?
lost saffron
I think you have confused some things
First of all, dont take sim numbers as numbers you should hit
secondly, where does it say crushing blow takes prio over bt in multitarget?
shy iron
wowhead says multitarget is basically the same as singletarget with the exception of whirlwind stacks
unless i read it wrong which is probably likely
lost saffron
Ah no you are right
kinda difficult when the wowhead guide contradicts what is commonly done
People kinda follow maxroll guide instead
because thats closer to what revvez plays
the wowhead guide is more meant towards complete beginners and doesnt cover what is 100% best
its more of a general guideline trying to balance simplicity with decent performance
eager thorn
Wowhead bis
modest condor
you can prio cb over bb and still have bb do more damage
if anything prioing cb is what makes bb do more damage
lost saffron
tbh on a high number of targets
using bloodthirst over cb probably does more damage
xD
modest condor
yeah but that's from the thunderblast procs, they're talking damage breakdown
remote zephyr
If you focus on bloodthirst reap the storm procs on mythic brood it's a lot of your damage
lost saffron
Its still better on short damage patterns
ovinax you can let out your desire to play slayer
am
tbh
modest condor
i only care about m+ 
whole yacht
is AM run on ovinax over RA?
modest condor
yes
lost saffron
Yes
modest condor
you need it for cds to line up with adds
lost saffron
AM + double active
is very cool
and it is fun
But its also frustrating when you dont get your cds down early enough
crude gate
gilded pawn
lost saffron
Most of the top logs are ~8:40 kills
tbh unless you have a really shit killtime getting a top log on that fight is probably not possible
anymore
summer quail
chinese players spawning adds on purpose
glacial oasis
how the hell is myth 3/6 Skarmorak simming lower than champion 8/8 skyterror organ by like 10k dps
frail trout
635.5 now, only need another ring and boots OR bracers either one
nvm I got boots, cloak or bracers
trail bane
how the hell is myth 3/6 Skarmorak simming lower than champion 8/8 skyterror org...
hi brother
frail trout
wonder how long until the patch is coming that gives us the bonus ring
glacial oasis
is your sim set to ST?
still though such a massive gear diff
glacial oasis
hi brother
wtf
trail bane
also i dont think Skyterror should sim higher in single target
or on any amount of targets for that matter
young swan
weee spider deadge
trail bane
gz
whole yacht
it has ALWAYS simmed higher ST for me
young swan
sick nasty green parse
whole yacht
weee spider deadge
grats
glacial oasis
also i dont think Skyterror should sim higher in single target
It does though
and some rando ring sims higher in dungeon slice
sullen dove
w shit
trail bane
It does though
can you link the sim?
remote zephyr
If I can only get one off before Im rage capped, should I be using crushing blow or bloodthirst
question mark
modest condor
suzuki skyrazor
orchid iron
whats the most efficient way to farm gorehowl right now, spam it in heroic?
modest condor
well rampage has a higher prio than bloodthirst so that's not even a question, if you mean bloodbath then you would use both anyway and just cap rage
orchid iron
the DF version
modest condor
and this is why you just link your sim if you have a question about it
we could have instantly told you that you're comparing double on use, which is usually worse
skarmorak buffs your own damage, but since you're using double on use and you're already using one trinket with your cooldowns the other one is just not gonna do as much
glacial oasis
we could have instantly told you that you're comparing double on use, which is u...
why
modest condor
meanwhile skyterror just does damage
so it doesnt care if you're in cooldowns or not
glacial oasis
skarmorak buffs your own damage, but since you're using double on use and you're...
cant i use it after 20 secs?
compact knot
does having 2 darkmoon embellishments stack it (2 weapons with the ascension embellishment)
glacial oasis
buff my tank damage?
trail bane
Recklessness, Avatar, Bladestorm and Thunderous Roar all benefit from a stat trinket, but not from a dmg proc trinket
compact knot
hypothetically speaking
modest condor
have you seen fury's damage profile?
trail bane
Making stat trinkets better when used with your cooldowns
modest condor
buffing your damage outside of cooldowns does fuck all
glacial oasis
have you seen fury's damage profile?
fair point lmao
compact knot
^
alpine nebula
Which sockets do you guys take in raidbots?
glacial oasis
i thought skyterror was on use too
modest condor
it is, but like i said it doesnt buff your damage, it just does its own damage
so you dont care if it's in cooldowns or not
pliant fulcrum
Quick clarification, M+ Mountain thane build, we no longer use WW right, we just use Thunderclap?
alpine nebula
Quick clarification, M+ Mountain thane build, we no longer use WW right, we just...
Correct
orchid iron
Theres a macro that actually switches between slam ww and thunderclapblast
based on what youre specced to
glacial oasis
based on what youre specced to
isnt that calld just having diff action bars
pliant fulcrum
Theres a macro that actually switches between slam ww and thunderclapblast
is there now, mind linking it?
orchid iron
isnt that calld just having diff action bars
at this point yea I guess so, sorry was wiping on rashanananahan
sudden tusk
@young swan gz attack
young swan
ty sire
undone flower
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aRNM8TXNqY4HMx4BhAQy85
we made it boys
Im jealous I’m at 1.43 m
young swan
winter shoal
weee spider deadge
yuge gz
sinful spoke
chat did i cook? mythic ovinaxx
young swan
u got cooked
sinful spoke
😭
whole yacht
sudden tusk
chat did i cook? mythic ovinaxx
i was at like 2.7 and it was only an 80 parse
that boss is unparsable if people dont let you pad
whole yacht
true
whole yacht
i am losing the will to play
winter shoal
And people in my guild playing aoe specs instead of going boss dam when we had multiple 1% wipes
Meaning less pad for me
Just demonic behavior
summer quail
hmh ringworm simming within margin with ansurek ring. not seen that until now
winter shoal
What if you had both Mutou
summer quail
would be nice, i got boe ring and hc ansurek ring atm
winter shoal
I got myth ringworm from vault today 
alpine nebula
My BoE ring and Ringworm ring sim over ansurek ring
winter shoal
Other ring for me is crafted
oblique trail
The egg is calling to me..
sinful spoke
disgusting padder
summer quail
the new ring something something circet? is prob gonna replace ansurek ring tho, the very little info we have on it seems insane
sinful spoke
i couldnt find my transmitter on one of the add sets so my dps dropped drastically
i hate transmitter
🙏
final birch
The egg is calling to me..
626 transmitter is simming as good as 636 mark from gb for me
Anlaki
I dont like to play with transmitter
oblique trail
626 transmitter is simming as good as 636 mark from gb for me
Already have a 639 Transmitter so wont even have to think about it 👍
final birch
Yeah puzzle prison
oblique trail
It's not even bad
oblique trail
Only awkward moment so far has been making timings not meet smoothly on Ansurek
jolly quail
Quick question about M Brood, do we have an "Ideal" interrupt order we want to be in? Currently assigned to first interrupt on Skull and I end up holding CD's until I can interrupt and not sure if its actually that big of an issue or not
final birch
Idk not a fan
Of extra work
While im progging a boss
Ball getting lost
Or flying to africa
Into the puddles
oblique trail
Quick question about M Brood, do we have an "Ideal" interrupt order we want to b...
Saying it's skull doesn't say much, but ideally no you want to be 3rd or 4th since you as Warrior is the one to deal with adds the best
We had ranged kicks go before me and my cowarrior on our worm
oblique trail
Or flying to africa
Have not had this issue except maybe one pull of all prog
And I've had it since heroic week
glacial oasis
what missive do we use for the mainhand lads
oblique trail
You just get used to making it work on fights real quick
final birch
Ive had it since week 1 or 2 of hc and I got sick of it after playing in keys
jolly quail
Saying it's skull doesn't say much, but ideally no you want to be 3rd or 4th sin...
Sorry, meant first worm in set, so will always have a worm on worm breaks
oblique trail
what missive do we use for the mainhand lads
Mastery + anything
winter shoal
Yeah ranged for early kicks is bis, we had two warriors doing first kicks though and it was fine
final birch
Ye maybe idk
But right now
If 626 transmitter seems the same as 636 mark
Ill take braindead trinket
winter shoal
what missive do we use for the mainhand lads
sim, probably haste/mast or vers/mast
glacial oasis
yea was thinking vers
final birch
Even though with transmitter you defo have more powerful burst which can be useful on like idk ovinax i guess
Or court
oblique trail
I personally value the higher burst infinitely more than the ease of mind
Because as Fury, your only job in raid really is just burst
(on most fights)
But whatever works for you really
Some people just much prefer GB/SV trinket and accept the burst loss
summer quail
Because as Fury, your only job in raid really is just burst
was just about to say this, on ansurek for example a big part of fury is destroying the p3 adds
oblique trail
Not like people haven't done really high parses anyway without Transmitter
oblique trail
was just about to say this, on ansurek for example a big part of fury is destroy...
As solo warrior in fact it's an even bigger job 👍
oblique trail
On prog anyway, we had a few pulls where even if I was alive and used CDs on 3rd adds, they sometimes didn't die fast enough
summer quail
As solo warrior in fact it's an even bigger job 👍
exactly, and that extra burst is huge
when we get there i will most likely be solo warrior, unless we recruit someone
oblique trail
At least as solo warrior you can look better than you actually are on the meters
(like me)
So silver lining
sinful spoke
real
summer quail
tru
final birch
As solo warrior in fact it's an even bigger job 👍
We have ret and x2 fury wars
Were okay
I think
Didnt get to p3 yet
sinful spoke
execute ret paladin players
final birch
I wish to be ret paladin player
oblique trail
Yeah well you wont be missing out on add damage
If I was dead, then our ret pala made up for a good amount of my damage
final birch
Ret can fuck
lament hinge
were trinkets at
final birch
Especially if they have good timer of divine hammer
Or w.e that shit after wake is
You can basically go wake dh x2
Nvm its not divine hammer but u get the point
oblique trail
Ye will see how things go on reclear
If I'm somehow able to snipe even more damage
Paladins do not deserve to have fun 👍
Not like I think I'll be able to beat the CN warriors
looking at it
Idk wtf is going on over there
final birch
Yeah idk i ignore cn logs
Always
My ex gm used to tell me how the choechoi frost mage thats like perma r1 does omega cursed shit
And is being spoonfed perma
In every possible way
oblique trail
Not at all 👍
final birch
I assume hes not the only one
oblique trail
yes
sinful spoke
wtf
oblique trail
Almost an entire minute longer than my prog kill
Of course if you look into the log, multiple gray and green parses
oblique trail
Well
The Fury warrior is somehow nearly top boss damage
This is not supposed to be the case 👍
oblique trail
Average CN moment
summer quail
it takes me like 2 seconds everytime someone type "CN" to not think of castle nathria
sour frigate
💪 🇨🇳
sullen dove
im so cooked
craft a belt or boot or sum
round girder
is it only possible for 1 warrior to reflect beams on queen
what happens when 2 reflect same beam
frozen mirage
Need help figuring out why raidbots give me the following error message: "Unable to fill sockets: make sure you have enough prismatic gems or Algari colors selected to fill all sockets"?
oblique trail
is it only possible for 1 warrior to reflect beams on queen
If 2 pop SR, only 1 reflects the damage but neither gets knocked or take damage
storm rune
Need help figuring out why raidbots give me the following error message: "Unable...
you have 2 primary's chosen and always use selected would be my guess
timid prairie
lol, lmao
lean heart
kyveza reclear 
whole yacht
hey real quick
whats the weak aura that announces in chat and shit like "dont interrupt i have spell reflect"
languid ivy
Anyone know why when I try to sim Ravager instead oof bladestorm it doesn't use it? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h7WnKyAXUG7xV3GGCdpCbD
oblique trail
Because Ravager doesn't work with Slayer
languid ivy
oof, I hope that gets changed some day
oblique trail
And they just didn't put in a line for Ravager in the APL if you decided to have it talented as Slayer
Because you'd realistically never have that
still ibex
It should cast it at some point anyway, no? Just huge dps lose
oblique trail
It would if there's a line for it
But as mentioned, no line for Ravager in the APL for Slayer
Because it just doesn't work
It's just extra work to try and optimise a talent that's anti-synergetic
gritty sigil
kinda messed up my stat dist tho, i gotta change up all my stuff to accomodate
young swan
"only" 1%
languid ivy
Wonder if doing extra nature dmg from enchant would boost that a lot
young swan
1% more than every other ring at =ilvl
gritty sigil
it took so much of my mastery for crit in its place, i honestly feel like its a dps loss
pliant jackal
NOOOO i died on the last web on rasha'nan
it would have been a orange parse
1.7 m
rip
oblique trail
Surprised that Rashanan is still on the Allstars
gritty sigil
blame ur tank, make them pay u 1mil
oblique trail
After the entire debacle with that fight
gritty sigil
honestly im surprised everything except sikran and princess arent deleted from all stars
languid ivy
There was a debacle?
pliant jackal
yea its a bit easy to parse on
gritty sigil
fury is just such a weird parse spec since we're all add pad
oblique trail
There was a debacle?
Yes
For a while during 11.0 they had adds not count in your parse
They re-added it with 11.0.5
gritty sigil
honestly just make boss damage the new standard >.>
oblique trail
There was a lot of reasonable critique towards this change (making adds not count)
young swan
honestly just make boss damage the new standard >.>
why?
languid ivy
Boss dmg should be nnew standard agree
gritty sigil
i dont know a single fight where we've struggled to kill adds in time
young swan
so u get rewarded for not playing the fight correctly?
languid ivy
hhonestly onnly thinng i look at
sullen dove
oblique trail
If we sort by boss damage, then I'd be absolutely trolling on Ansurek
Despite playing correctly
summer quail
Surprised that Rashanan is still on the Allstars
that is weird, it says on the wclogs discord channel they removed it from allstars. but yeah i still have my points
gritty sigil
i cant speak for M ansurek since im still progging it, but H ansurek top 100 logs are all boost runs except maybe 1 or 2
young swan
i dont know a single fight where we've struggled to kill adds in time
its not so much about killing them in time as it is about killing them as efficiently as possible so you can have people pump the boss more
oblique trail
I just had mine leftover from 11.0 parses
languid ivy
Anyone have thoughts on Powerful Enrage vs Frenzied?
oblique trail
i cant speak for M ansurek since im still progging it, but H ansurek top 100 log...
Ok but HC logs
young swan
i cant speak for M ansurek since im still progging it, but H ansurek top 100 log...
thats the case for every heroic fight every tier
summer quail
I just had mine leftover from 11.0 parses
yeah that makes sense why i have mine then as well
gritty sigil
its not so much about killing them in time as it is about killing them as effici...
just cleave off boss and kill adds ._.
boss cleave is still overkill for any add fight
oblique trail
just cleave off boss and kill adds ._.
That's not how mythic fights work, sorry 👍
young swan
yeah good luck boss cleaving gloom hatchlings on mythic LOL
gritty sigil
That's not how mythic fights work, sorry 👍
except it is. im doing it rn and it works great ._.
oblique trail
On mythic ansurek?
gritty sigil
im not tlaking about brood
sullen dove
they dont do shit ❗❗❗
oblique trail
Are you telling me your entire raid just passively cleaves gloom hatchlings
oblique trail
I've had adds live with me using all my CDs + pot for 3rd add set
young swan
dont think u understand what "passive cleave" means
young swan
yeah they dont fucking die if u dont have people hard commit cd's for them
fossil hatch
which roots did they remove 4th?
young swan
which roots did they remove 4th?
ye
fossil hatch
ok
oblique trail
no
young swan
nah
fossil hatch
u actually wrong kiwi
young swan
ur just wrong
south kayak
No they ain’t
oblique trail
You are saying adds die to passive cleave on mythic fights
And we are saying they aren't
south kayak
You straight up wrong
gritty sigil
hmm
oblique trail
But what is cleave off boss
gritty sigil
gl guys
chrome relic
gritty sigil
giga delulu
oblique trail
?
viscid condor
make fury boss damage great again
south kayak
oblique trail
Bro you are saying stuff like make boss parses matter because adds die to cleave on mythic
You are simply just self reporting you are not progressing fights where it matters at all
👍
And that's okay
👍
south kayak
chrome relic
south kayak
Why dies ovi have a weird hit box
summer quail
make fury boss damage great again
they would have to nerf something else then. atleast for this raids damage profile
viscid condor
yeah nerf enhance
oblique trail
Just keep Fury where it is now
summer quail
we are bingchilling so hard right now
timid prairie
pretty sure even with suboptimal gear arms is like 8-12% ahead of fury on pure st
south kayak
What
young swan
definitely isnt
fossil hatch
xd
timid prairie
10.0.5 sims
young swan
well
oblique trail
They're at best 3-5% apart
oblique trail
At the very best
south kayak
10.0.5 sims
young swan
yeah its not that far ahead
young swan
if u have fury favored gear they sim pretty close to the same
summer quail
the thing is, in the single target fights we do have there can be pretty significant downtime. and arms gets more fkd by that
oblique trail
Technical bis comparison
summer quail
get a few charges on princess as arms, big damage loss
south kayak
Get that as anyone and you’ll damage lose
young swan
cant wait for crits guild to log in today and 1 bang ansurek cause blizzard blew her head off with a double barrel shotgun
summer quail
Get that as anyone and you’ll damage lose
yes but arms has anger management
oblique trail
A lot of guilds will do this
timid prairie
but ye in reality those sims assume 100% uptime and transmitter not being cringe
south kayak
cant wait for crits guild to log in today and 1 bang ansurek cause blizzard blew...
Why isn’t blizzard nerfing princess
young swan
yeah HoF is gonna get a lot more full
oblique trail
Probably also a lot of guilds that just straight up didn't bother raiding yesterday
viscid condor
ngl i got used to transmitter
oblique trail
but ye in reality those sims assume 100% uptime and transmitter not being cringe
Wdym transmitter not being cringe?
viscid condor
its like stockholm syndrome though
young swan
our guild went from 19% best to this
fossil hatch
is the nerf actually so big for p3? we re on 19% boss hp left
summer quail
transmitter is totally fine, you get super used to it
oblique trail
The nerfs are massive for consistency and damage intake
timid prairie
just press transmitter on kyveza intermission dance and tell me the trinket is perfectly viable
oblique trail
just press transmitter on kyveza intermission dance and tell me the trinket is p...
I have 👍
It's completely fine on all bosses 👍
summer quail
just press transmitter on kyveza intermission dance and tell me the trinket is p...
definetely is perfectly viable, you know where it's gonna spawn
pliant jackal
my guild that im raiding with isn't good. we just got 4/8 m. How much further you think we can get?
young swan
is the nerf actually so big for p3? we re on 19% boss hp left
pretty sure ansurek is an easier boss to prog than silken court now
oblique trail
gratz on randoming 3 jumps
You know you can just pre-pop Transmitter and finish the task before/as intermission starts right
fossil hatch
my guild that im raiding with isn't good. we just got 4/8 m. How much further yo...
tbh u dont need a guild for 4/8m i would prob switch unless good friends
south kayak
pretty sure ansurek is an easier boss to prog than silken court now
Silken nerfs when
pliant jackal
yea 4/8 isn't that hard
timid prairie
You know you can just pre-pop Transmitter and finish the task before/as intermis...
love them hypothetical alignments
oblique trail
xD??
timid prairie
if its just not bad its not bad
oblique trail
wtf do you mean hypothetical
summer quail
love them hypothetical alignments
sometimes it's best to stop typing
oblique trail
You are speaking as if I've not progged the boss with Transmitter
And just making up things
humble plover
love them hypothetical alignments
yo share what u smokin i wanna spew nonsense too
fossil hatch
prob crafting 636 chest today for queen all in doesnt feel good
south kayak
Yo Banezi have you watched Dandadan
oblique trail
I have
eternal sundial
love them hypothetical alignments
Are you one of those who's macroed trinket use to cds
Rather than pre using treach
summer quail
guaranteed some people do that
humble plover
yea, its fine for normal trinkets
summer quail
someone out there definetely is
young swan
yeah i have that shit ass trinkis bound
eternal sundial
People do that???
I do it with mark etc
oblique trail
https://www.twitch.tv/banezio/clip/StrongPrettiestRaccoonKappaClaus-hqx34NNN69_O0YgX Hypothethical alignment 👍
eternal sundial
But i still have my trinket keybinds
oblique trail
Damn really had to stress and finish my trinket mid intermission
south kayak
https://www.twitch.tv/banezio/clip/StrongPrettiestRaccoonKappaClaus-hqx34NNN69_O...
Thanks for the hypothesis
eternal sundial
For 13 and 14
south kayak
timid prairie
https://www.twitch.tv/banezio/clip/StrongPrettiestRaccoonKappaClaus-hqx34NNN69_O...
huge alignment you only didnt fit bs into spear window
massive
jade cipher
guys season is almost over and i havent gotten 1 decent vault
dusky anchor
guys gotta need some help, should i wait for reclear and see if i drop transmitter ( i have ovi and ara hero) and choose neck ? simcraft says transmitter is better over neck but idk
timid prairie
zero variance
jade cipher
3 sockets so far
oblique trail
huge alignment you only didnt fit bs into spear window
What the fuck does that have to do with my trinket
south kayak
Lmao you weren’t arguing for that
timid prairie
what the hell do you think alignment means
oblique trail
XD
south kayak
Dude
timid prairie
when your shit doesnt line up
oblique trail
Nah but you are so brain damaged
south kayak
Are you crazy
oblique trail
If I didn't have Transmitter you'd just hammer CDs insta
Instead of BS being that bit closer
summer quail
this guy is not real
timid prairie
is your goal not to align your cooldowns
humble plover
align deez
timid prairie
with your trinket
oblique trail
is your goal not to align your cooldowns
It is and you cannot control BS CD 👍
waxen vale
what’s deez
oblique trail
Now you know 👍
oblique trail
BS and Transmitter did not align yes
The rest did 👍
I hope you are not holding all your CDs for BS if it's 10+ seconds away though 👍
Do get help then 👍
humble plover
BS and shard woudlnt have aligned either i dont get the argument
timid prairie
and my whole point was that the sims assume perfect uptime and therefore minimal variance on cooldowns
south kayak
Banezi is pushing it with the thumbs up use
timid prairie
which is
south kayak
timid prairie
hypothetical
summer quail
BS and shard woudlnt have aligned either i dont get the argument
there is no argument. the guy is just being an idiot
timid prairie
do we know what words mean in this chat
oblique trail
And I have a non-hypothetical and very real argument to be made
You are genuinely brainless
The above scenario you're proposing
Is an issue regardless of the trinket
Where BS doesn't align with CDs
Not your trinket
eternal sundial
BS alligning with reck is just RNG
neat gazelle
Ladies ladies
young swan
slayer cringus spec
eternal sundial
And holding bs is bad
young swan
random cdr cool and fun
young swan
abolish all variable cdr
eternal sundial
random cdr cool and fun
I also rlly liked s3 fury rng for tindral roots 1
Yipi no crits 2 5 stacked bc
radiant plank
twilit harbor
not sure what to pick between dawnbreaker belt and tier helm. i've a socket ready to use on whichever one.
both are simming about the same upgrade % as I already have a socketed hero helm.
i suppose the play would be to see if i get a myth belt/helm from ulgrax/shurekei reclears?
radiant plank
yees
twilit harbor
thank
mystic hill
im in the process of simming it, but if i were to craft a ring and im playing all 3 specs, what would yalls feelycrafty stats be?
sinful glen
🥲
sinful glen
I do, but it just doesn't sim great for some reason https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o1nGa7u4xWubmnrGbsHPSQ
whole yacht
i think i missed the response to my question
what is the weakaura that announces to the group when you are targetted by something and have spell reflect up?
sinful glen
radiant plank
me when no versa
twilit harbor
I do, but it just doesn't sim great for some reason https://www.raidbots.com/sim...
cause you're losing mastery and already have a lot of haste due to rare neck
whole yacht
<#365419450054344704>
i didnt know that was a channel. im new around here. mb and thank you.
twilit harbor
they're both valuable stats but your current setupt would value mastery more, which that ring doesn't offer
sinful glen
I see, that make sense. thx
undone flower
I do, but it just doesn't sim great for some reason https://www.raidbots.com/sim...
I would feel sad if I still got no 639 weapon
sullen dove
middle ring is crazy good for arms and okay for fury
o wise pink man is ovinax egg a real trinket
south kayak
no
sinful glen
I would feel sad if I still got no 639 weapon
I was really hoping for one
sudden tusk
if your other trinkets are bad its okay
sullen dove
like im reading it and statwise its only like 100 more strength and like the same secondary as a knife
just doesnt ahve the downside of knife
but idk how often that even procs
seems super rare
south kayak
I don't know how you're supposed to use ovi trinket
sullen dove
have 626 knife
sudden tusk
lemme see
south kayak
anyone?
sullen dove
you just use i think when youre under 20 stacks of one
prolly doesnt matter much which you have more of
tho would imagine mainstat a bit better
but just 60% dr past 20 makes going all in on one like worthless
sudden tusk
egg is showing a slight gain .4ish% over the knife at same ilvl
sullen dove
yea i mean its not a significant amount of more stats i dont think it just doesnt have the downside of knife stat steal
sudden tusk
realistically i dont know how the bot sims the egg
sullen dove
but idk mang... its either that or myth glove upgrade but like surely i get glove outta raid
sudden tusk
like if it sims it with optimal use the knife will out perform it for sure
oblique trail
realistically i dont know how the bot sims the egg
It tries to keep 20/10
sudden tusk
yeah so you are basically never gonna do that and is annoying as shit
so knife should perform better at ilvl
oblique trail
But in practice it's not going to be as good
I had it in my vault but skipped it for a socket, and just kept using my 626 Sac
sullen dove
no sac either... just a big knife boy
oblique trail
(even though it was a big sim dps increase!!!)
sullen dove
but ig knife good nuff
guess take glove, unfort last person in my raid on my tier slot
went to evoker today...
oblique trail
Sac and knife at equal ilvl are basically equivalent
sullen dove
yea i got a sac on my evoker