fury

[south kayak]

That's basically a crime

an ability you can always press

vs an aiblity you can press every 15 seconds

come on

Onslaught should be 600%

[gilded pawn]

the 300 on RB is kinda fake

since offhand hit is halved

[young swan]

yeah

[gilded pawn]

so its more like 210

220

im not saying ons is stronger though

[south kayak]

it's still cringe how bad onslaught is

Honestly, hero talents made onslauht way worse

since it buffs bt/rb etc

the main rotational abilities

and they didn't do anything for ons since it's way down there in the "capstones"

[gilded pawn]

ons used bo be 2 RBs

[south kayak]

Onslaught has to be the worst capstone in the game

how is this real

[gilded pawn]

now its barely like 1.3

[south kayak]

delete it

[modest condor]

may i remind you of storm of steel

[gilded pawn]

holy moly

[south kayak]

nah onslaught is worse

[modest condor]

it's not

[south kayak]

onslaught is something that hsould be in the 1st part of the talent tree

[pulsar quest]

Onslaught should give you avatar for a few seconds

[south kayak]

not the damn capstone

[modest condor]

storm of steel is literally a dps loss over not spending a talent point

[south kayak]

It should do a lot

[gilded pawn]

storm of steel is a dps loss

ye

[south kayak]

isn't onslaught a dps loss too

[modest condor]

no

[gilded pawn]

i would rather ons hit harder than giving us more uptime in cd

[modest condor]

at worst it would be dps equal since you can just not press the button

[south kayak]

I always wanted onslaught to be something like MoP stormbolt

[modest condor]

but it's stronger than a whirlwind/slam for example

so it's still a dps gain to press it over those

[south kayak]

Does nobody know what mop stormbolt did?

It was a big ST nuke

on a 20 sec cd

[buoyant salmon]

storm of steel is egregiously bad

[hardy gale]

Is the ring from .7 patch going to be bis through 11.1 or is it basically worthless?

[celest sierra]

as much AM is fun, just doesnt keep up with Reckless

[young swan]

its not even out yet man

[hardy gale]

Ohh you think they could change the tuning before it's out. I got and wait

[young swan]

is the ptr even updated with .7 shit yet? I dont think anyone has even started testing it

[celest sierra]

i hope that ring is gunna be as worthless as the amulet from forbidden reach

[thick fossil]

I like this comp. NW 11

[pulsar quest]

Well I see it like this, OF Gives avatar for a few seconds but it’s better in AoE. Why not make Onslaught the ST counterpart to it

[hardy gale]

I thought I saw it showed what the ring gems did

[pulsar quest]

Mfw my internet finally restored and I send a message 5 mins late

[nimble ermine]

internet explorer messenger

[south kayak]

they have to be cooking up a rework for fury

[nimble ermine]

surely bro yeah

[young swan]

perhaps I will concoct a talent tree rework tonight

as a creative exercise

[nimble ermine]

make fury explode if its not attacking something for 5 seconds

class is fixed gg

[hardy gale]

racial Sims are available yet for dragon?

[south kayak]

do it

[young swan]

its just going to be a massive wishlist

basically

[south kayak]

better if it's cohesive

[nimble ermine]

surely the warrior dev will see it and take inspiration

[young swan]

yeah i was gonna make a flowchart

[nimble ermine]

(giant cope)

[young swan]

in the form of a talent tree

its going to be cohesive

[nimble ermine]

should do it on stream

[young swan]

but also a giant wishlist

perhaps

(im going to)

but prob not until later

like 3ish hours

maybe more

we'll see

ive already concocted some devious ideas

[nimble ermine]

if you remove frenzied i want you to implode

[young swan]

nah nothing like that

yet

[nimble ermine]

"yet"

[south kayak]

Xan

I have an idea

buff CSHB by 100%

Big dot on 5 targets like in BfA

and ST to a lesser extent

helps with 5 target sustain

and avoids the burst problem

[nimble ermine]

no

[south kayak]

yes

[nimble ermine]

we move away from this 5 target shit

[mossy fox]

yo this could be react content

[south kayak]

no we go in

[young swan]

it will be very valuable react content

u will be pogging out

[south kayak]

xan react to my cshb wish

[nimble ermine]

no

[young swan]

this is just like normal thought process

cshb is piss

most of the value is in the extra rage gen

[south kayak]

CSHB BFA was pog

I miss it

lets go bfa private server

I also miss 25% haste from enrage

..

I guess I can let that go

[nimble ermine]

fury during EP patch in bfa was so fun

[south kayak]

but CSHB needs big buff

[buoyant salmon]

nobodys even made a halfway decent bfa or onwards private server

[south kayak]

There was a legion passive that gave BT a chance to attack an additional time, I'd like something like that

[south kayak]

Yeah I know

Instead if improved bloodthirst talent

gimme that

[median marsh]

we are progressing kyveza mythic,
during the dagger thing - is there a "best place" to stand on?
or just open eyes and run around it?

[opal furnace]

bfa had reck on gcd

[fervent barn]

so im bout to hit 80, is there an addon i can grab that would show me bis gear upgrades i can get?

[nimble ermine]

bfa at start was so funny

i remember ER being on gcd

[errant vessel]

3x kyveza dashes + 2x AJ stacks falling off on kill

rest of the night was 99 parses

and no trinket drop

[eager thorn]

learn what simming is

and then gearing will be more straight forward

but as fresh 80 just grab anything thats ilvl upgrade really

[fervent barn]

is there an ilvl to shoot for for like bare minimum entry to low mythics or should i just send it now

[eager thorn]

not sure but won't hurt to do a few heroics first

think theres some timewalking stuff for gear atm too

[stiff onyx]

ez BT raid timewalking get a hero piece at the end

[young swan]

@south kayak your SS 2nd resource idea has proved bountiful

many thanks

[south kayak]

Don't thank me, thank survival devs

[fervent barn]

also is there any particular pieces of gear that are prebis that are easy to grab quickly btw or nah

[modest condor]

what do you mean by prebis?

[south kayak]

What idea did u get from that btw?

[young swan]

you will see

its kind of goated imo

[quiet geyser]

When the mechanic first happens, she will turn to the direction she launches the first daggers a second before. Dont be infront of her when she does that turn otherwise you're dodging like 4 daggers right off the bat. Also if your raid is doing queensbane orbs properly, staying more towards center of the room is a safer area to be as the orbs that come out with/right after daggers shouldn't hit you.

[warm crag]

don't be max melee range against kyveza its kind of ass for dagger preplacement

[silk prairie]

playing fury with arms for loot spec and i got an intellect staff on grim batol......?????

[warm crag]

noob lol

screenshot

[crude ridge]

Does it say warbound gear? Cause I'm willing to bet that's exactly what it is.

Warband*

[frail trout]

It's 100% some piece of warbound gear

[vale dove]

Am I right in saying using spell reflect on Regicide (Kyveza) negates the damage from it

[quiet geyser]

From 1, ya

[crude ridge]

^

[vale dove]

Ok cool thought so

ty

[dull compass]

could someone explain to me why people have switched back to OF?

[quiet geyser]

If you can save it, its usually best to save SR for the very last one where everyone gets a line. You almost always have a terrorist moving last second clipping you

[crude ridge]

From what?

[frail trout]

What key levels we talking about? Pushing high? Cuz I don't think weekly vault looters ever quit using OF when looking at the majority breakdown

[viscid condor]

VC i assume but what context are you looking at

[dull compass]

VC

was vc only ever single target?

[frail trout]

I've been running 1 VC and keeping odyns but I just do weekly 10-11 keys for vault loot

[crude ridge]

I don't think I've seen anyone switch from VC to OF?

[frail trout]

So yeah

[dull compass]

if you check mythic on archons

[crude ridge]

We talking in keys?

[dull compass]

yeah haha

thats why i asked if vc was only ever raid really

because if so then i misunderstood the convos at the time

[crude ridge]

Ah I don't use Archon so I'm not familiar with the data you're seeing

[frail trout]

If your just looking at archon I don't think odyns has ever not been the most picked choice, but that doesn't mean much

[high echo]

does anyone know if warr has a way to deal with mythic ovinax aoe debuff?

[dull compass]

well in theory its an average of the builds at the top end right?

[plucky ice]

charge

[high echo]

can u charge thru it?

omg right?

i was thinking that

[plucky ice]

you mean the web right

[crude ridge]

you talking about the one that roots people?

[high echo]

ye

its a "snare" apparently

[crude ridge]

leap out and charge

[high echo]

the web

[frail trout]

People are still using the raging blow talent instead of the fierce talent as slayer also, just tons and tons of people who started s1 as fury and never changed builds with the times

[high echo]

leap when its happening or what is the timing

[crude ridge]

I always leap into the blue stuff and charge back in

when you get the debuff

[plucky ice]

only jumo if you get it

jump

if you bs while its about to come u wont even get it

[quiet geyser]

Does relentless pursuit remove the snare?

[high echo]

what blue stuff

[crude ridge]

you get the debuff leap out so you don't root anyone then charge will dispell the effect

[high echo]

right

[crude ridge]

the large blue shit from the canister

[south kayak]

ok hmu when u post it

[crude ridge]

or any open space really

[crude ridge]

I would assume so

[high echo]

does it instantly or is there a timing for the dispell

[frail trout]

Instant

[high echo]

brilliant

[frail trout]

Bless the purple goo on the ground

[crude ridge]

it's literally mindless for warriors once you get it a few times

[frail trout]

Keeps some space open for easy clearing

[crude ridge]

just make sure when you're charging back in to wait for the blue swirls to clear before you charge

I've died a few times charging in to soon and eating a swirl

[balmy shore]

most ppl drop transmitter for shard/mark on m silken court because of the movement, right? just wanted to confirm :3

[warm crag]

nuh uh

[balmy shore]

why do switch

[crude ridge]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxiLDeg1edHEtaadwZ6OwNWMBA-1rhsips?si=knKcQ8TVgTX76m2T
I clipped it just so you can see exactly what it looks like.

[warm crag]

you arent moving when damage amps are happening

[balmy shore]

what's the reasoning for so many ppl dropping it for shard/mark

[warm crag]

people suck shrug

the boss isnt a dps check

[balmy shore]

oh i guess it's actually not any different than kyveza

[warm crag]

if you get everyone to the final damage amp boss trivially dies

[balmy shore]

30% of ppl for both

[hollow ridge]

just have to do smart turns for dropping transmitters just incase u get orb or platform

[balmy shore]

hi grazlekk :3

[high echo]

Oh appreciate it man I'm a visual learner anyway haha

[hollow ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-smiley-face-yellow-gif-8004301841562115300

[high echo]

Appreciate rest of the responses for confirming as well

[crude ridge]

welcome

[silent thistle]

is thane that much better than slayer in m+?

[small dome]

what m+ build yall runnin

[sudden tusk]

chomp on banezi

[static rock]

MT, 1 point in VC and no titanic rage

In a good group, I've seen that MT completely outclasses slayer, plus it's just a lot more defensive in general

[small dome]

whats the priority for thunder blast on fury? is it just to get cleave up

[static rock]

as apposed to using what?

[small dome]

yeah i phrased that bad, when do I use it in ST

[snow edge]

Rampage (if not enraged) > TB > CB > BB > Rampage in ST, as a general rule of thumb

[gleaming juniper]

you can sim/play around w diff builds and see what works best for you

i run both thane and slayer depending on the key

thane outsims on 5T and slayer beats on ST, but my overall is usually pretty close with either build

[static rock]

so only use it if there a TB proc from a BB/BT?

[snow edge]

? I don't think that's what I said

Do you mean Thunder Clap as well? TB should be used on CD if enraged, TC should be used to keep WW stacks up in MT

[clever belfry]

new parry WA dropped

[radiant sentinel]

Amazing

[still ibex]

Link?

[clever belfry]

i logged off cba fixing it rn

it also needs a custom file (obviously)

[small dome]

wow didnt realize it was so high, thanks

[static rock]

So in ST, only use TB, and not TC

[snow edge]

TC only as a filler; this is straight from the wowhead rotation guide, I've just left out CDs as I assumed you were asking about the general rotation rather than opener:

[desert tartan]

guys help settle a debate please

is fury more complicated in terms of priority and maintaining rotation than enhancement shaman?

[frank rover]

Yes

[lyric compass]

Yes absolutely. minimum high school diploma to understand fury complexity

[storm rune]

I have a WA that makes a bonk sound every time I need to press WW

[modest condor]

bonk

[frail trout]

I'm surprised that argument left the pick screen

[heavy flax]

yes

[frail trout]

you log onto an enhancement shaman for 5 mins and if fury is the only thing you have ever played

you will fry your brain

for raid single target spec, anyway

maybe easier in keys since you don't play ele blast in keys

[keen forum]

Funnily enough modern arcane mage is more braindead than fury

[frail trout]

surely their opener has more meat to it

maybe not sustaining after

nah I still give it to the arcane mage

I don't even need to know their rotation for that

[keen forum]

You’d be very surprised

[frail trout]

playing a caster that does not have perma cast while moving is just inherently harder than playing one of the easy melee specs like ret or fury

your gameplay disclipline has to be a lot better to not drop casts over the course of a 5 min+ fight with challenging mechanics

[keen forum]

If you spend an afternoon getting used to icy floes it just feels op

[storm rune]

arcane has a ton of cast while moving, though

and instant relocation when avoiding aoe

[errant estuary]

why are we talking about clothweaing class?

bussies

[charred panther]

🤣

[queen linden]

I know it sims well, but is it really worth dumping money into for kyveza prog?

[heavy dock]

what money are u dumping

[queen linden]

I forget what the numbers are compared to a 639

[queen linden]

Enchant

[heavy dock]

7k?..

[queen linden]

shrug idk how much enchants are anymore lol

[willow cradle]

You're also dropping Stam for a very minor increase

[errant estuary]

Nah bro, turn it into a Refulgent Crystal.. Unless you wanna win st in the raid

[static rock]

I mean, he did say it was for kyveza prog

[summer quail]

how much gain is it? if it's only like 1-2k i'd rather not, lose a decent amount of stamina

[queen linden]

.1% increase

[summer quail]

yeah i would skip that personally

[sudden tusk]

its only on PURE ST

AND you have to full clear heroic brd

not worth it

[queen linden]

I mean, I have it in my bags. Just tossing the idea around for using it on kyveza

[sudden tusk]

also means less stam. prob not worth it unless you are trying to 100p with good rng

[feral ivy]

who made this because this is the best thing in the world

first day prog of princess and this was posted lol

[summer quail]

the stamina difference could be life or death, if the stamina makes it so you don't go under 10% hp then it saved you. as long as everyone lives for most of the fight it should just die

[lost saffron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1304217318338859019/Wow_z58jqNwXqM.gif?ex=672e9687&is=672d4507&hm=44d4d6d9679289bbfbb396004f6a4358cbac455780288db29c17c6f0c0699be9&

[granite trout]

I've now hit my primary goals of getting 2k rating as fury and outgearing runed crests so I'm pretty happy with that but getting into myth track gear seems like a huge hurdle. Not sure if I do that now or work on an alt or something

[sage karma]

10s aren't that bad

It's mostly rng with competent groups

Tho it's borderline impossible to get into groups

[granite trout]

That's my worry really, getting in and the rng of the rest of the group lol I'm pretty good at not dying and hitting things very hard

The getting in is the hurdle I'm not sure is worth it lol

[sage karma]

Join a guild imo

I ragequit tonight because apparently I'm not allowed to play m+ unless I tank

Thanks blizz

[granite trout]

I was considering just learning prot pretty heavily

but just don't want to out of principal

[sage karma]

I go prot and a healer instantly applies

Why the fuck don't they just join dps only groups so the tanks will instantly apply?

But no I have to play tank to get anything that isn't a DPS to apply to my key lmao

[short cobalt]

is fierce followthrough the move now?

[narrow narwhal]

prot is ezpz

[grizzled fiber]

This is good, where did u get this from sir?

[whole yacht]

because tanks are harder to find than dps. so they dont want to potentially wait 10 minutes for a tank

[odd star]

yes

[frozen marten]

is Sacbrood good for M+...? It's simming poorly for me and I kinda thought it was bis

[drifting copper]

Has anyone running skarm shard had a bug where it doesn’t line back up with avatar/troar?

In a DB earlier it was consistently 10seconds behind on cd but when I watched it back my macro was working and blowing them both at the same time.

[strange basalt]

Are the culminating blasphemite gems simming properly or are they just bad? Raidbots is showing replacing all my gems with mastery + haste (even though haste is my weakest stat) is better than mix and matching or using even 1 blasphemite gem.

[snow edge]

Make sure you tick the appropriate boxes if you want to sim the meta gem/s

[feral ivy]

raid leader sent it to us lol

[lone zinc]

14 city timed bois

[grizzled fiber]

haha i see, niceeee

thank u for sharing sir

[strange basalt]

Ah that fixed it. Why wouldn't raid bots just default to simming whichever is the best/all combos. Seems counter intuitive. Although its basically within margin of error for me anyway.

[feral ivy]

its a really good song lol i cant stop watching

[fresh cape]

anyone know a good youtube video guide for fury? would a guide from beginning of xpac still be applicable

[frigid temple]

Fucking ovinax prison bruh

143 pulls in

[chilly plume]

HOORAAHHH

111 pulls

[feral ivy]

gratz

[wraith wasp]

Grats

[chilly plume]

and now im back to tanking so life gets easier

[frigid temple]

if only

[modest condor]

grats

[thick lantern]

Gratz

[young swan]

yuge

[balmy shore]

gzzzzzzz

[lament lagoon]

Is this a meme?

[balmy shore]

@dapper goblet voodoo

[dapper goblet]

roger

[queen linden]

Surely the boss dies sub 60 pulls

[modest condor]

[queen linden]

Take me back to brood prog This fight is boring

[balmy shore]

i like kyveza

[queen linden]

Just a lackluster fight.

Silken will be fun

[stiff onyx]

is it worth going dragon for pve or stay dwarf better?

[storm rune]

dragon move fast and does care about nothing, dwarf runs like a fat guy who sharted themself

I think the answer is obvious

[latent hedge]

dragon little bit more dam

dwarf gets rid of stuff so you can focus on dam

reality is; play race you like

[short cobalt]

thanks!

[summer quail]

dragon is not more dam than dwarf

if you like the look of the race or if you're one of the very few people on mythic ansurek go dracthyr

[coarse nest]

Heard

brood was way more fun

[molten spire]

Killed my first ulgrax today 🙂

nice parse too

😆

[coarse nest]

bro you got the KILL!

all that matters

[molten spire]

Yep

We got blood too

And would've killed sikran if we had a bit more time

[queen linden]

gaming

[remote zephyr]

Yo guys is there any way to hypothetically appear offline to your guild and friends

[upbeat plume]

battle.net launcher

if you click on your account quickly you can appear offline

should work on everything

[young swan]

@nimble ermine about to start on capstones

shall i open stream

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[nimble ermine]

yes

[orchid iron]

should a BDK be like 2-3 in healing during raids?

prog* raids

[molten spire]

yeah

bdk hp goes crazy

[vague marten]

Is dungeon slice a good way to sim for M+?

[nimble ermine]

warrior player vs lines

[modest condor]

@dapper goblet L

[dapper goblet]

implode

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-witch-doctor-mano-tiki-tia-gif-15319797

[nimble ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-glorpshit-mad-gif-12826934952903770254

@young swan

animal

[dense badge]

not really a warrior specific thing but is it possible to cast a macro with the same name multiple times but separating by commas to save character space?

like /cancelaura 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

instead of /cancelaura 1
/cancelaura 2 etc

[neat gazelle]

@chrome plover hey dude. i know you told me rampage, crushing blow and bloodbath. my tier pieces say raging and bloodthirst....

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[queen linden]

[whole yacht]

grats. i am currently progging it.

[nimble ermine]

@young swan

[young swan]

blow up

[nimble ermine]

implode

@young swan there u go buddy

ur welcome for the help

[frozen tartan]

Thats a tree

[nimble ermine]

yes!

[frozen tartan]

Me smart

[compact knot]

our brood

lived with 10m hp

on mythic

fuck

[sacred helm]

how much better is arms than fury? (in m +)

[storm rune]

Might need to ask the 3 warriors playing arms this season that question

[sour frigate]

💪

[wanton mirage]

so Onivax, just press rampage whenever available instead of holding right?

[snow edge]

If you're running AM, you're trying to spend rage ASAP; so yeh just slam it

[hollow socket]

Mornin lads, got a question, returning player to wow, playing fury warrior for first time, my ilvl is 609 I haven't got bis gear yet but it's decent, my DPS seems low i raids using the slayer build, my question is how much of a spike do bis trinks provide? Will I see a jump in DPS if I get get them? My stats still aren't quite there yet bit to much crit still, and rotation wise I get alot of procs but I'm not sure what's more important, guides on YouTube have said similar but different answers

[storm rune]

it really depends on the trinket, st trinkets in aoe? pretty big loss

[hollow socket]

Atm I have the egg one and the khandros one

[storm rune]

I mean those are fantastic trinkets

[hollow socket]

Hmm ok, should I be hitting rampage everytime it procs or wait for fury to run out ?

Like use crushing blow n bloodthirst until then?

[storm rune]

first of all, what build are you running

[hollow socket]

Slayer fury

The one on wow head for raiding

[storm rune]

okay, well in outside of niche scenarios the advice on wowhead is good for like 99% of content, you can trust it, for warriors at least, for the best advice. Most guides on youtube I would assume follow Archi's advice, but I would take everything on wowhead at face value as correct

you want to prioritize keeping enrage up, but CB/BB have prio over rage capping in standard raid build

[hollow socket]

Ok so more crushing blows

[storm rune]

so they will always take precedence over rampage unless enrage drops

[hollow socket]

I see

So for perspective sake: it's like rotating between crushing/bloodthirst until rage is out them bam rampage right?

Also in terms of build, should I keep using the wow head raiding one or is there another build I should look into?

[storm rune]

wowhead I believe is updated, Archi also keeps all current builds in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

well you want to always use CB/BB regardless of rage, and if above 100ish rage you want to ramp to proc another round of CB/BBs, if you're below that threshold you'll want to press your filler buttons to get to that rage because pooling is important for your rotation when you get bad rb resets.

[hollow socket]

Okok just cuz I'm new, cb: crushing blow bb:?? And rb:??

Sorry lol

[storm rune]

bloodbath, that's empowered BT

[hollow socket]

Ah yes ok

[storm rune]

same with raging blow > crushing blow

[hollow socket]

Wait so, if I'm over 100 rage I wanna do rampage? I thought we use rampage to generate fury

[nimble ermine]

we generate fury

[hollow socket]

Sorry for the confusion just tryna wrap my head around it ( I come from rogue so usto a dumping style )

[storm rune]

Ramp is your rage spender, everything else is basically a gainer

[hollow socket]

Ooooohhhh

Damn I'm stupid ok

[storm rune]

we were all new once

[hollow socket]

Okok I have been playing it all wrong lmao

[hollow socket]

Respect brother

So I wanna use ramp at 100+ to proc cb and bb

Hit that shit and when I run out of rage do it again basically

With all the in-between cooldowns on CD ye

[storm rune]

cb and bb will gain rage

[hollow socket]

Oh yes, I mean when I regain rage

I was confusing being enraged with having fury

[median marsh]

evety time i want to sign for a pug key, i need to click the "Sign up", then mark in another click that io play dps,

is there a way to do it in a single click and avoid this annoying thing?

[storm rune]

yeye, so you start fight, blow your cds in the proper order, press ramp to proc cb and bb, you're now -80 rage, press cb/bb, gain rage for each cast, if you're above 100 rage after those two casts, you press ramp again to spend the rage, thus proccing the abilities again and cycling like that

premade group finder addon is a one click apply

There's a lot more nuance to it than that like juggling ashen juggernaut in ST and slight variations to prio filler in aoe etc., but working on that as your basics will take you 80% of the way there

[median marsh]

i will search this tyvm

[storm rune]

oh np, it's a very handy addon, good for advanced filtering for pug groups as well

[hollow socket]

I see I see!

Thanks man!

I will update you later today on how my DPS develops 🫡

[storm rune]

gl out there

[wraith wasp]

Remember: always stay angry

[hollow socket]

🫡

[storm rune]

make note that for filler abilities in aoe, bt takes prio over rb due to the passive "reap the storm" in your hero tree

[eternal sundial]

This happens at iirc 5+ targets

[hollow socket]

Okok

[storm rune]

but yeah, work on the basics, then come back again for the nuance

[hollow socket]

So should I be changing spec Ina s aoe fight ?

[hollow socket]

Okok

[storm rune]

you should have a pure st spec and a general aoe spec, there's also a very specific fight for one mythic boss but lets not get ahead of ourselves lol

[clever path]

Im a total noob with Fury Warrior. Could someone explain the basic rotation? I checked Icy Veins but it seems really confusing

[nimble ermine]

rampage

[storm rune]

aoe spec changes a bit between survival/dps and utility between m+ and raid but they're quite similar in playstyle

[hollow socket]

Yeye I'm still only 4/8 hc hahaha

[hollow socket]

Read above William just explained

[eternal sundial]

#fury message

[storm rune]

also to your first question, here's the best and worst sims of what in my bags rn for aoe and ST fights, you can see how much things get skewed when target count goes up

[hollow socket]

Love mountain thane!

[clever path]

do i cast the long cooldown abilities before or after im enraged?

these ones specifically

[storm rune]

Thunderblast first hit on a pull has got me killed way too often to truly love it, but damn is it ever fun

[eternal sundial]

Depends on your talents

There's a combo of 2 that make your Avatar / odyns fury enrage you

Where it doesnt rlly matter, roar ideally always enraged

Bs too

[storm rune]

^ Titanic Rage/Titan's Torment

So you open with Avatar in those builds (Basically all aoe builds) and viola, you're enraged

[hollow socket]

😂

[storm rune]

Otherwise you still open with avatar/reck, but lead with rampage and then pop your other cd's

[clever path]

what im doing right now is that i cast the abilities on action bar 1 when i enter combat, in the order theyre in, then the abilities on action bar 2 in the order they're in (rampage, execute, bloodthirst, raging blow, whirlwind if nothing else is available)

[eternal sundial]

Pls show us ur talents

Cuz they factor in on this

[storm rune]

exe has a rather low priority outside of marked for execution/ashen juggernaut uptime

[clever path]

im using the icy veins easy mode setup

[clever path]

oh yeah, i only cast that when they're low HP

[storm rune]

ah, you're not 80 yet?

[clever path]

Nope. Haven't bought War Within

[storm rune]

ah okay, yeah I wouldn't worry too much about rotation at this point, but in general exe is quite bad for fury, moreso without hero talents or the ashen juggernaut talent picked

at your level and spec you only press it when everything else is on cd

[clever path]

Gotcha. Does everything else look fine?

[storm rune]

looks like the standard aoe build, do you have avatar macro'd in to something?

[clever path]

Nope, I dont even have it slotted

Is it important?

[storm rune]

You want to press it on CD as often as possible

you can see it in the middle of your class tree at the bottom

[clever path]

Should I press it at the start, middle or end of my rotation?

[storm rune]

in your spec it will also cast odyn's fury which in turn enrages you, gives you meat cleaver and +10% damage

First button you press when you begin your opener

well, second, but simultaneously with recklessness

[clever path]

after charge tho, right?

[storm rune]

Right now it doesn't matter

in a previous season we had a very specific opener that required reck > charge for rage purposes, but so long as you're pressing reck+avatar before popping your other abilities you're good to go

[worldly lily]

Guys, does Zekvir still count as T8 delve?

[clever path]

Gotcha

[storm rune]

nah, t1

[clever path]

what other abilities should i add to my action bars? they feel a bit empty

[storm rune]

That's your basic rotation which is a good start

[storm rune]

There's a lot of important utility you should practice using

[worldly lily]

it still feels abit empty after frost mage

[eternal sundial]

It's a warrior

[storm rune]

The ST spec has an abysmally small rotation

[eternal sundial]

If you want keybinds go arms

[clever path]

where can i find a list of important utility skills?

[storm rune]

38 keybinds and counting as prot!

[eternal sundial]

I mean you can pad keybinds

Ava kb
Ava + trinket
Ava + racial + trinket

[worldly lily]

one macro to rule them all

include also recklessness, spear/roar and bladestorm 😄

[eternal sundial]

Absolutely fucking not lmao

Hm ava reck charge for the odyns fury torment

[storm rune]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/abilities-talents-pve-dps gives a general rundown of all your abilities and passives, a bland read but I don't know of any resources off the top of my head

[clever path]

ty!

also, one more thing. bit of a stupid question, but where do i get good gear from?

[young swan]

mythic+ is going to be your best bet

working up to mythic+ can be a bit of a task tho

as far as I know delves are the best way to get geared for mythic+ quickly

[clever path]

do i have to go to delves manually or is there a queue system the same way there is for dungeons?

[young swan]

I believe you have to go to them

i havent engaged with that content very much

[tardy sky]

really dumb question but is this the place where i can find a coach? i'm doing alright and my group cleared silken court, but my parses are rather low and i really want to imrpove, i just don't quite know where to start I've been reading the Icy vains page none stop but i'm still not getting much better.

I think there maybe some issues where i'm either dumping my rage to quickly or overlapping enrages with my rampage.

[radiant plank]

Post a log

[young swan]

have you tried posting in #449510248579858432 ?

[tardy sky]

just jumped in here a little bit ago

[sudden tusk]

i should do vod reviews on stream

[young swan]

good content

[sudden tusk]

i think its an untapped warrior market

[young swan]

100% is

[radiant plank]

100%

do log reviews tbh too

[tardy sky]

threw mine in there

[fossil orbit]

Need help, 1: fury or arms on sikran mytich? 2: i play fury most of the time and have stacked haste / mastery, now my sim says haste are the lowest prio of all :S what should i do? 3: What weapon are best to use in main hand? I got the crafted 2-hand sword and ulgrax from the first boss.

[molten wing]

both work if you have gear that favors fury just stay fury

[tender seal]

Let me know if you decide to do this. I'd definately tune in 😄

[sudden tusk]

if anything i will probably make it 1 day a week and let it be viewer submitted

not sure how ill do setup i dont just wana take random ones from here since those people didnt consent to that

[young swan]

make a google form

pin it in chat when ur doing it

[fossil orbit]

Ty 🙏, any suggestion on the other questions? 😊

[molten wing]

Beer why are you trolling on this reclear
Hold on mr raid leader i have to do this crazy thing so i can then link my log to Madox on stream

[sudden tusk]

man people already want this holy

yeah ill setup like a google sheet. only thing im worried about is just blazenly clicking links

[molten wing]

who am i kidding , we are extending

[sudden tusk]

thats where the vod review comes in

record a pull and we analyze

https://tenor.com/view/anime-noted-gif-20648403

[summer quail]

highest ilvl weapon awlays goes in mainhand

[manic mango]

Is it bad if I craft 2 x 636 2-hander weapons for fury?

[summer quail]

yes

[molten wing]

i need some analyzing , why did i die here

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

magic 8 ball says shoulda healthstoned

okay me bedge

[molten wing]

yeah i think so

god i hate the floor on the second canister

[sudden tusk]

i play super far up on the canister

[smoky vale]

i swear whenever i play on the canister

i get parried

so im on the bosses ass

[fossil orbit]

Same ilvl on both, the ulgrax has higher min-dmg but lower max-dmg. Does that benefit in main hand, or should i stay with the sword in main hand, lower min-dmg and higher max-dmg? Maybe the diff is to small?

[smoky vale]

if they are the same ilevel it does not matter

[fossil orbit]

Ok ty

[livid marsh]

it doesnt matter to much, it will eventually even out if you get lucky/unlucky

[summer quail]

the damage range on weapons is fake

[sudden tusk]

blue dot is my happy place

[fossil orbit]

Ok, the for the help guys!

[chrome plover]

it applies to those two too since they are an empowered version of the same spell

[sudden tusk]

oh before i go to bed

[smoky vale]

last time i put that

banezi got mad

so i stopped

[livid marsh]

well hes not here so he cant get mad

[smoky vale]

my happy place

eating the boss out

https://tenor.com/ssheSTcE2q3.gif

[sudden tusk]

i havent actually been allowed to kill that boss multiple times

went from 4/8 to join new guild to Silken and queen extend

only killed it once

[smoky vale]

i havent been allowed to kill it once

🙂

[sudden tusk]

i beleive in you

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chuni-sleep-gif-20108376

[smoky vale]

i only made one mistake tonight

and i was tilted after people were doing stupid shit for 20 min

goodnight madox

[eternal sundial]

We rekilled in 12 or so

Killed in 2 week b4

[tardy lark]

i will watch and i will one guy you

[smoky vale]

🙂

[smoky vale]

+1 viewer

😎

[smoky vale]

i love cringe weak aura boss

[radiant plank]

double destro

ome

[smoky vale]

if you look at the logs

your eyes would bleed

[unreal onyx]

Weakaura aint the issue

[eternal sundial]

Bro what a comp xdd

[smoky vale]

was for half of our pulls because we have had different roster every week

people quitting, accident etc

at least we made it to the hardest part and are able to get there to make prog

[eternal sundial]

Ours is uh

Idk

[smoky vale]

someone who has been in since day 1 of prog

[tardy lark]

that definitely looks like a weakaura issue

[smoky vale]

just downloaded mrt

🙂

[quaint dove]

How does the cleave work off IW? Is it a distance from you or your target?

[smoky vale]

around you

[quaint dove]

Is there a known distance?

[smoky vale]

i can see it in my head

dont know the value

[quaint dove]

Can't believe I didn't know this before smh

[smoky vale]

just test on dummy

[quaint dove]

👍

[smoky vale]

or into a dungeon

[quaint dove]

Only realised as I tried cleaving off Bloodbound on reclear for first time yesterday and was not hitting some adds

I always assumed it cleaved off target

[tardy lark]

what is IW here

[quaint dove]

Improved Whirlwind

[tardy lark]

oh, it cleaves off target

[smoky vale]

oh wait

i thought he meant ww cast

mb

[tardy lark]

Bosses like bloodbound and rashanan are trash in that regard

[quaint dove]

Is it inconsistent as to whether you'll cleave onto adds or not for Bloodbound?

[smoky vale]

aagaard do you ever leap to displace yourself during the rash knockbacks?

[tardy lark]

its not something i've given much thought. I just press CDs and let others handle the rest unless something is high hp. Havent specifically checked if my cleaved attacks actually hit

i know they do as arms, but SS works off your position im fairly sure

[tardy lark]

during position change or the add spawns n shit?

[smoky vale]

ss position yeah

[smoky vale]

spawn in

[quaint dove]

ss?

[smoky vale]

it was the only way i could think of to get my casts off before adds are killed by others

sweeping strikes

[tardy lark]

sweeping strikes

[tardy lark]

stand directly under boss

[smoky vale]

hmm

okay ill try that

i think im forever stuck in fury prison for that fight

[tardy lark]

most likely same

i want to just send arms entire reclear, but i think it'll take a long time before i wont get yelled at for not being fury on queen lol

[smoky vale]

yeah

just makes things so consistent

[tardy lark]

im there to kill adds. If i do mediocre ST and mediocre add damage, why am i brought

[slim coral]

120 pulls into queen prog

this fight is so fucking fun

I don't remember the last time I enjoyed an end bos like this one

I think SIre

[tardy lark]

you have p3 wipes with people having 0 clue how to pick up essence and bring to portal to look forward to

[young swan]

p3 lowkey seems so nuts

we've barely gotten past first shackles

[slim coral]

p3 is for sure nuts

[tardy lark]

2nd or 3rd is by far the hardest

[slim coral]

but you beat the hardest part with all the gear and stacking weeekly buff

[tardy lark]

i dont remember which you drop essences shortly prior into condemnation into web blades with middle adds being spawned during it

[young swan]

lmfao

i think thats where we wiped on our best pull

boss was like 30%

have a lot of damage to make up

but it'll come as people get more comfy

[tardy lark]

i think its technically worth going hard afk dps wise just to execute mechanics

[young swan]

yeah prob

[tardy lark]

also calling out where people with condemnations have to go asap

or not asap, but prior to the mechanic even happening

[young swan]

its so fucking hard to keep track of markers

good lord

[slim coral]

yeah we've been prepping for p3 pretty hard

[young swan]

especially if u have condemnation

shit just whites out ur screen

[tardy lark]

we have like 6 people doing markers lol

i just resorted to using liquidreminders instead

[slim coral]

reminders is so op

[young swan]

that shit is fucking busted

i have every defensive planned for p3 lmfao

can just brain off and do mechanics

[tardy lark]

i just hard assigned ER, but kept SR free. Kinda want to be able to press it if i get condemnations and i used ER for the damage on the one prior

[slim coral]

yeah honestly I just stole defensives from nox until I more

*I see

[young swan]

i need to look a bit closer but i have SR + dstance assigned for every condemnation and am saving ER for if I get targeted

[tardy lark]

who tf is nox

[slim coral]

Noxiv

[tardy lark]

oh

[tardy lark]

if you can make it to DK bubble and whatever else raid util the group is using, you dont need to press anything

[young swan]

thats epic

I'll prob just dstancd anyways

that button is broken

[tardy lark]

SR+Defstance is enough for if you get targeted and healers arent behind

that said, hard assign ER for 1st and 3rd condemn

use SR+def if you get second and make sure you are topped with healstone or pot

[slim coral]

I wonder when they will nerf queen again

[young swan]

is it up in time for 3rd if u press on 1st

[slim coral]

Probably after HoF

[tardy lark]

mine at least is because we have a holy priest

[young swan]

ah yeah okay

was gonna say with symbols its prob good

need to check if we're getting symbol between 1st and 3rd

id imagine we are

[tardy lark]

cant do the 3rd root -> armageddon liquify personals if you dont have holy priest either

Its pretty specific when everyone wants defensives, so i dooubt any priest play symbols differently

[young swan]

yeah true actually

i need to take better advantage of that tbh

im always worried I wont have it up in time for intermission

[tardy lark]

theres kinda only 2 places you use it

[young swan]

ye

[restive narwhal]

Can we Pre Spellreflect the Webs on Ovi ?

[young swan]

just everything pop and intermission right

[tardy lark]

second liquify+explosion overlap if no priest or early in the armageddon liquify explosion thingy

[young swan]

no but bladestorm fully immunes them

[tardy lark]

shortly before 3rd roots

[tardy lark]

can also break them with slayer charge

[restive narwhal]

My Raidlead says i can pre Spell Reflect it so i dont have to get dispelled.

Because i wouldnt get it

[tardy lark]

your raid lead is a dumdum

but you can break them yourself if you play slayer

you really only use spell reflect on that fight for the damage taken from tank mechanic

[calm hemlock]

With charge ?

[ornate gust]

Just heroic leap out then charge.

[loud crown]

Would you upgrade the OH weapon before trinkets btw? Got 2 more ranks up to upgrade on my OH and my Sacbrood trinket

[calm hemlock]

I’m clueless but I don’t get how the charge after leap dispell you from webs

[pulsar prawn]

slayer has hero talent for root remove. check the warcraftlogs what talents to play 😉

[ornate gust]

Because one of the hero talents that remove roots when charge.

[calm hemlock]

Ahhhh true thanks, will try next raid

[dull compass]

I’m starting to finally get gilded crests farmed. Should I save up 180 for two crafted 636 weapons? Or just one and use the other 90 on gear upgrades

[radiant plank]

Craft one and spend rest on meaningful upgrades

[dull compass]

Cool I just let raidbot sims pick haha

[radiant plank]

If you are able to clear 4/8 in mythic I would advise against upgrading anything beyond 619

since looting myth items lets u save 15-30 depending on what you loot

[chrome plover]

bladestorm immunes them and you can charge to clear

so leap to a safe spot and charge in

[radiant plank]

Make sure you actually have the charge CC remove ready btw

it has 60s CD

[south kayak]

When are they buffing ww monk

[radiant plank]

dont be like me who leaps into shit without having it ready

only to charge into my team and root everyone cuz some healer dispelled me

[dull compass]

I’ll have to do some upgrading regardless because waiting an hour to be invited to a dungeon where 99% of the time I’m not the cause of any issues anyway? Yeah that’s dog ass balls

[radiant plank]

Being 622 or 619 wont change a thing in terms of invites :D

you also get 1 free 619x craft crest

[dull compass]

Idk for the people I talked to, the hardest part of mythic is just getting an invite as a DPS

[radiant plank]

from the Queen killing quest

which you can use to craft your nerub armor patch

[dull compass]

And that’s been my experience

[radiant plank]

to an unimportant slot

[ornate gust]

I never upgraded hero track items with gilded crests except the bis trinkets

[radiant plank]

Yeah on my alts I am holding gildeds anyway till i get the crest save from my main soon

sitting at 619 + some crafted 636 for embellishments

[dull compass]

The slow crawl to 2K

Has been utterly awful in terms of queues

[radiant plank]

can safely q your own key

spam 8's

[summer quail]

ofcourse it has. you're one of five billion dps that are applying

[radiant plank]

there is lots of high ilvl people doing 8's for gildeds

takes me around 5mins to fill a 8 with above competent players

[south kayak]

Ww monk rework was great but man do they suck at doing damage in m+

[summer quail]

yeah goated rework. trash tuning

[south kayak]

They need to buff SCK

It does nothing without dance

[calm hemlock]

It is a class choice issue, problem is still the same at 632 3k io

[south kayak]

And even with insane dance procs, you get owned by half damage specs in the game

It’s crazy

[dull compass]

Yeah I should. I tried and got massively trolled three runs in a row

[south kayak]

I think they should either buff spinning kick or make dance a lot more frequent

[radiant plank]

Pay attention to who you invite : D

never gotten my own key trolled this season

[dull compass]

I tried 😦

I checked times runs

And ilvl

And it just takes one bad invite to GG

[summer quail]

most of the time having a bad dps isn't the end of the world. have to really really make sure the tank and healer is solid(especially the tank)

[gilded pawn]

Dps quality only matters at the highest end of keys

Remember that there are people who boost with buyer afk

Or carrying whatever shitty alt

At the end of the day you only need 1 good other dps

And obv strong tank and healer

[clever path]

is fury warrior fundamentally about generating rage and then spending it on rampage?

[dull compass]

Two out of three trolls were tanks

[gilded pawn]

That’s generally true

[dull compass]

Third was a healer

[gilded pawn]

There are sometimes where you do more damage pressing things that aren’t rampage

[dull compass]

Pugging in the 6-9 range with other people that are around 2K is very hard to gauge

[clever path]

any example?

[radiant plank]

Doing 8's you never ever have to invite anyone below 2.5k

[flat river]

Fury is basically you generate rage and when u have enough you go on a rampage and enrage

[radiant plank]

there is always some andies over that

[dull compass]

Because some people like myself got there by really trying to learn what to interrupt or cc, when to use damage mits, what to save your self heal for, never standing in avoidables, help others learn the mechanics.

And then sometimes you get the impression that others just got there somehow without paying attention to any of that at all

[flat river]

With RA, Crushing Blow and Bloodbath have prio

Unless you're not enraged

Then rampage is prio

[clever path]

but crushing blow and bloodbath are rage generators, no?

[dull compass]

Which makes it hard for me at exactly 2K haha

[flat river]

They are but rampage gives you one charge of each

Which is a super strong version of raging blow and bloodthirst

That deals big dmg

[clever path]

so the idea is use raging blow and bloodthirst and execute and whirlwind, generate rage, use rampage, then crushing blow and bloodbath, then repeat?

[chrome plover]

oh wait

in all of prog i never even knew this

[dull compass]

Not usually whirlwind directly if you are in multi target content

[chrome plover]

guess i never got roots twice within 60s

[clever path]

isnt whirlwind a good AOE skill?

[radiant plank]

Lucky you

[south kayak]

You can't really aoe without whirlwind so yeah, the buff it applies

not whirlwind itself, it does barely any damage

[dull compass]

What kind of content are you looking to do with your fury warrior?

[clever path]

Ah right, so it's not really there for damage as much as it is for the buff

[flat river]

in AoE situations, you use Whirlwind to gain meatcleaver stacks

[clever path]

Im only Level 70 right now, but I want to do all Endgame PvE content once im Level 80 and have the right gear

like Raids and Mythic+ Dungeons

[dull compass]

Then you will most likely start with mythic

So you should look into mountain thane build

For mythic +

[clever path]

how difficult is it to play?

[dull compass]

In that build you almost never actually press whirlwind

Instead you get the whirlwind buff (4 ability cleave) from another spell

[clever path]

(right now im using the icy veins easy mode spec and its quite simple)

[dull compass]

Mountain thane is very easy to understand

For new players the amount of clicking you are doing to not overcap on rage when you are bursting can be a bit disorienting while also keeping track of mechanics

However, while you are getting used to the priority of what buttons to press in the right moment, it’s still easy to do decent damage as a mountain thane warrior by just pressing the glowing button haha

[clever path]

how many keybinds will I have to deal with? I know for Arcane Mage and other specs there's like 30 buttons you have to keep track of which is way harder than the handful im using with Fury Warrior aha atm

[dull compass]

Not very many

In comparison

[clever path]

I'll unlock Mountain stuff at lvl 80, right?

[dull compass]

Yupp

Once you have 80

Then you should match the talents to the content you want to play

So you are in all content practicing the right thing

A huge tip for new players to MMOs in general is for them to try to think beyond the name of the ability when selecting a key und

[pulsar prawn]

hero talents are starting at 71. fully unlocked at 80

[dull compass]

Decide a keybind you like for things based on how important they are. So instead of say X button is my whirlwind button, you say X button is my AoE button.

Then later if you need to use a different ability for AoE, which you will if you are currently using Whirlwind, you just put the new AoE ability on the click that you know is AoE.

And if you play other MMOs or try other classes, having a understand of what YOU want to click to interrupt an ability (which most classes have something for) it’s the same button despite being called something else.

[sly zenith]

I have charge and bloodthirst in one single macro

[tardy lark]

Q = Spender/rotational button
E = most used button
R = main button (rampage, lightning bolt as enh etc)
T = short cd button 15-30 sec
F = execute or similar

It makes it pretty easy to learn multiple classes, but giant panic when you have a lot of buttons and have to compromise

[dull compass]

^ yeah this

The earlier you can pick a concept, make a concept that makes sense to you for how to organize the game to your tastes the quicker you will “get gud” if you are genuinely trying

[unreal onyx]

My e is leap

And F is roar/spear

And R recklessness

Cursed keybinds but it works good enough

[spare hull]

Im not pushing keys. Im just doing 10s. Which is fine because i dont really have a team or time. And im playing this Spear/execute/Am/BS/OF/SL build. So i pretty much have BS for every pack. Dmg isnt insane. I think i did 1.8 average on a NW +10 yesterday. I died a couple times due to aggro on some good packs. I know i could do more as thane but i am enjoying this so much while im not hindering the group. Spinny boy is fun

[unreal onyx]

I was sceptical about the tane playstyle but now doing it a few weeks it’s really fun

[last sparrow]

i still use 1-6 for stuff

[spare hull]

thunderclap is fun

[cloud jungle]

As a mountain thain TC replaced WW?

[tardy lark]

yes

[cloud jungle]

spanks

[clever path]

what about Z, X, C and V?

[dreamy notch]

And 1 - 5

[twilit harbor]

1, 2, 3, 4 are BT, Ramp, RB, WW/TC/Slam (depends on spec)
Alt-1 is Execute, Alt-2 is WW/TC also (I used to have FS on 4 when that was a thing so my muscle memory is to press A2 for AOE, and 4 for ST filler)
Q is OF, E is Reck ESC is BS/Rav, C is Spear/Roar, Reck & Ava in a macro
F is Charge, Alt-F is Leap, G is Interrupt
X is Shockwave, Alt-C is Storm Bolt
Z is potion, Alt-4 & Shift-V are trinkets
Alt-Q is SR, Alt-E is ER, Alt-R is Commanding Shout, 5 is Victory Rush, Alt-5 is healing pot, Shift-E is Healthstone

After being a loser and typing that out I've realized I never use R for anything, which would be much nicer to press than ESC (although that is next to 1 on my keyboard - I started using it in BFA for the Azerite Power ability)

https://tenor.com/view/piano-bruce-almighty-keyboard-keyboard-warrior-fast-typing-gif-3416345

[sacred helm]

why ravager over bladestorm in m+?

[radiant plank]

alt-1 execute huh

[sand crest]

its only rav over BS when playing thane

ud lose out on thunder blast stacks during bladestorm since u cant cast

[ornate wharf]

Hi guys.
I just picked up the warrior again and I have some questions.

1. In ST do you play the slayer or mountain build?
2. In M+ is the slayer or mountain build stronger?

[sacred helm]

and thane is the go to for m+?

[sand crest]

slayer in ST, thane in m+

although slayer is playable in m+, but you lose out on a fair bit of sustained aoe dmg for more st/prio target dmg

but thane loses massively to slayer in ST

id say in m+ its up to personal pref, but in ST playing thane is trolling

[pulsar prawn]

only for mountain thane

[ornate wharf]

Ok, thank you...
In M+ with mountain thane, will we ever use whirlwind? I have because since thunder applies the cleave buff

[sand crest]

I should note that slayer is better in raid in general, even in add fights, because adds dont live long and slayer offers better burst than thane

[sand crest]

no you use thunder clap/thunder blast where you would normally use ww

you can take ww off your bars as thane

[pearl crypt]

Nope you throw it off the bars

[fresh cape]

Are we always casting BB and RB before enrage ends even with rampage available?

[calm hemlock]

yes

unless ur not enraged

[fresh cape]

What if we will only have time to press BB or CB before enrage ends, we’ll want to press CB then rampage and not worry about spending the BB since we won’t be enraged

[sacred helm]

Even if you rage cap doing so?

[calm hemlock]

Then you press BB
If enrage --> empowered CB/BT even if you are rage capped
If not enrage --> rampage
If not enough rage --> build with CB BT until you can press rampage

[calm hemlock]

yes

[sacred helm]

But only for aoe I guess? For ST BB is only < 100 according to wow head iirc

[calm hemlock]

you'll rarely overcap rage in ST outside CD's

During CD's ravager/bladestorm will cast BB for you

For better improvment I'd highly suggest to watch top war vod's for content your looking for and see what they are pressing for each situation

[sacred helm]

My problem with top players is that they often play wrong talents or have interesting takes (I mostly saw that in the tanking community)

[calm hemlock]

tanking talent can be very situational and content dependent for specific bosses or dungeons

[radiant plank]

thats a tank thing

[calm hemlock]

very different for dps

[radiant plank]

m+ mouse tanks are ill in head

[sage karma]

for keybinds just use bellular's

they're pretty good

oh the topic changed

[eager thorn]

Copying someone elses keybinds kinda stupid

[latent gust]

i just got

instant declined from a mythic+

and i asked the hard question

[fresh cape]

M+ is so toxic. Another reason I’m stuck at all 11s cause I don’t have a push group

[latent gust]

war dps doesnt exist

elitist trash

for an 11 dawnbreaker?

that they have only 1 starred

trash

and then invites a fucking cat masquerading as a rogue

[shut onyx]

You guys don't play on your bamboo tablet?

[latent gust]

are u insane

ive never felt so disreespected in my wow career

non existant dps?

[unreal onyx]

ESC is BS/rav? that is diabolical

[frozen tartan]

Tbh, responding with "I will outdps everyone in your group" is more than enough reason, to not invite you.

No Matter the class

No Matter the Meta.

[night relic]

using esc in any rotation wise is insane

[trim hound]

What's next, PC power button?

[warm mason]

Quick question, should I enrage before dropping ravager? Or can it go down whenever

[dull compass]

does anyone know what happened to the live tracking option in raider io?

[eager thorn]

Bit strange calling them this then flaming them for only having +1 dawnbreaker 11

[warm crag]

you seem insufferable lmao

[frail trout]

Can't imagine doing m+ pushing without a team, or pushing at all really

The latter part I can get but only if you have a team so not really

Just seems like an insanely negative mental space

[latent gust]

it is horrible

[kindred swallow]

I do m+ until i get the mount and then i just ignore it for the rest of the season lol

[wheat estuary]

@warm crag dudes definitely toxic lmao

[frail trout]

Yeah my comment is not excluding him lol

[wheat estuary]

Durag dude not you I mean

[frail trout]

I don't whisper people when trying to get into what is effectively a weekly vault key

I just spam apply and move on

[dull compass]

He really thought he would post the receipts and people would be like cheering him on haha

[latent gust]

no i didnt

i dont care

[dull compass]

so who asked then?

[latent gust]

nobody

i just felt like it

[dull compass]

so you cared

[latent gust]

clearly

[eager thorn]

You obviously care a lot abt the situation

[latent gust]

of course

it is infuriating

[eager thorn]

If you screenshot it and posted it in a disc to get replies

Run ur own key

Ez

[dull compass]

he cares more than jolie and brad pitt and the children

[heavy dock]

Surely

[latent gust]

yes...that is all I can ever do

[red yew]

Grrrr

[forest ginkgo]

Just get to 2800+ score and most people will invite you

Cuz most people know warriors pump and pretty much never die in keys

[frail trout]

The slow gear creep this season has worked in my favor for weekly vault queues

I get in pretty fast as 633

[dull compass]

do anyone here use the raider io desktop app for logs?

[frail trout]

You really need to run a m+ filter though so you aren't wasting your time in the queue

Namely the lust filter

[latent gust]

he had a lust in the group

thats why i was like oh ok

and had 1 ranged 1 melee as the other dps

but he thinks warriors dont do damage

so w/e

[steel shard]

I am going warrior over DK for my hkp grp i think

since we are using a prot pala now and no aug

bshout gives alot of value

with priest, surv hunter, enh shaman

[unreal onyx]

Monk woyer rogue aug mix for max melee effinciency

[steel shard]

not having an enh is trolling

and yea monk bad

[forest ginkgo]

Go 5 warriors

Make warrior healer spec