What a gamer
#fury
wraith wasp
chrome plover
I think it is the best hunter spec in keys by quite a significant margin
probably the highest damage in raid too but a lot of hunters are forced to play ranged
last sparrow
yeah he was saying you can play whatever but survival is like a head above the other two
me pulling up to our hc skip clear as survival hunter
sneak in wearing a brown tmog
proud vessel
Shouldnt this frost dk do a lot more dmg in a +12 siege?
teal pine
Not really
viscid acorn
Hello, can anyone please explain me, why my skarmorak shard trinket(1.5min CD) sometimes is longer in CD than Avatar(1.5min CD)? I made a macro for avatar and this trinket to be 1 click, but sometimes when my avatar is ready, shard shows still around 9-10 sec remaining
teal pine
siege is very bad for frost
chrome plover
Hello, can anyone please explain me, why my skarmorak shard trinket(1.5min CD) s...
because of the cringe affix
that gives you cooldown reduction
viscid acorn
ah lol
chrome plover
it doesnt affect trinkets
viscid acorn
i already burned my mind regarding this moment, thought maybe i did something wrong with my haste etc
unreal onyx
Cringus desync mechanic
viscid acorn
Thank you very much @chrome plover
unreal onyx
Thank you very much @chrome plover
tardy lark
thank you very much @charlie
viscid acorn
very polite community
viscid acorn
🙂
oblique trail
@tardy larknot thank you very much
tardy lark
yw
radiant plank
river reef
you caught <#148898695696482305> on a good day
I will never ask a question on this discord again 🙂 this is the most toxic class discord i've been to so far. People nowadays cannot communicate, all they type is some weird emojis thinking they're cool and funny 🙂 Grow up, seriously. I asked the same question in hunter discord and received a normal response. I'm done of this place, bye.
thorny shoal
the most toxic eh, clearly you've never been to the DH one 😏
opal sapphire
I will never ask a question on this discord again 🙂 this is the most toxic clas...
what was ur question though
thorny shoal
seems like a copy pasta
ancient quiver
It meme
opal sapphire
ah
gleaming talon
I LOVE ZUGGING
tardy lark
I will never ask a question on this discord again 🙂 this is the most toxic clas...
Negative IQ player base will cry about anything and everything. If you're sh$t at the game, then don't do mythic plus. Content shouldn't be dumbed down becuase you're bad and want to be handed everything. Be thankful they're even doing this for you mechanics-challenged dolts. Stick to pet battles and delves if it isn't your speed.
Sincerely,
Mplus Title Holder
radiant plank
Negative IQ player base will cry about anything and everything. If you're sh$t a...
You just wasted all that time, for what? It’s a warrior fury channel and your sitting on here doing this?
oblique trail
Negative IQ player base will cry about anything and everything. If you're sh$t a...
Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t really see the community problem til you’re up here king
tardy lark
You just wasted all that time, for what? It’s a warrior fury channel and your si...
did you just yoink it from the pasta channel sir
tardy lark
Ok so you’re talking to a 2731 io fury warrior and I’m telling you, you don’t re...
straight to pasta channel
radiant plank
did you just yoink it from the pasta channel sir
no sir, I have my own pasta channel
tardy lark
tardy lark
bro i wish i was as passionate as grom
fossil hatch
Shouldnt this frost dk do a lot more dmg in a +12 siege?
Yes but u 2
wraith wasp
That was a fun read lol
clever path
Is it possible to macro inn potions, and racial? Along with the usual trinkets, avatar and reckless
opal sapphire
yes
wraith wasp
Please burst at the boss, thank you
pale sable
any1 else cant apply the thunder clap glyph while fury thane is specced?
oblique trail
any1 else cant apply the thunder clap glyph while fury thane is specced?
It only works as prot afaik 👍
Glyphs are an archaic feature that barely works anymore
finite ravine
I have my Trinket, Reck, Avatar, and Ravager macroed together for Burst, but lately when I click the button, it doesn't cast Avatar. I haven't had any issues with it until today. Anyone knows what might be wrong?
oblique trail
Do you swap between Prot and Fury fairly frequently
finite ravine
I swapped a few times today to run some dungeons, but I don't normally
oblique trail
Then this is the likely culprit
gleaming siren
<@217744588775882753> <@102464908976730112> and a noober
Baldoldman is rising
oblique trail
For some reason there's a weird interaction with Avatar not working sometimes if you swap specs
If it doesn't, you just gotta reload
finite ravine
Reload didn't work, gonna try a complete relog
tardy lark
what is the content worth doing in SoD now
clever belfry
its just bingus chillingus gaming
oblique trail
Guess relog is needed then yeah
Have not had the issue myself, just know the reason it happens
clever belfry
maybe aagaard joins meowmeow 😳
smoky vale
what spec are you playing in sod
oblique trail
This is definitely an organised guild
clever belfry
we have 3 (three) players
tardy lark
i lvled warrior some at some point but shit is just as bad to lvl as it was in vanilla
clever belfry
eh it isnt i think
proud vessel
Yes but u 2
yh i died a few times 
clever belfry
yy
tardy lark
hoooly
oblique trail
Made it infinitely better to levle as warrior, at least low/mid levels
finite ravine
Guess relog is needed then yeah
Complete relog worked. ty for the advice
clever belfry
u just get precise timing rune early
then u slam every 6s
for 15 rage, which does same dam as MS for 30rage
xd
rend also does SOME damage now with blood frenzy
potent thicket
🤣
frigid stirrup
do we Bloodthirst over Raging Blow with VC?
thick fossil
the true sod kings guild
Baldoldman, you got Asmon in your guild?
oblique trail
@gleaming siren are you asmon?
thick fossil
I shouldn't really say anything, I'm old enough to be Asmon's mother.
clever belfry
he is born 1990
thick fossil
Hmm, ok, I was 12 when he was born.
frigid stirrup
with what build
sry, was primarly Thane m+ for bosses
thick fossil
Yeah... that's just wrong. lol
thick fossil
lol
I ran a key with him back in Dragonflight S1. I didn't even know it was him until a guildy told me about it.
thick fossil
I just wanted to fill the vault slots. Figured it was some fake looking to get gear from high geared warriors.
dire badge
same thing
chrome plover
queen linden
uh oh. Brown bar is a little high.... Please god, don't nerf us.
smoky vale
change to just rash
queen linden
change to just rash
warm crag
uh oh. Brown bar is a little high.... Please god, don't nerf us.
uh oh fury solos an entire mechanic in mythic ansurek this is totally fine
forest owl
yeah going from brood to ky'veza is funny we go from top to mid, cant have it all though
queen linden
we'll be back one we get to silken
forest owl
yeah thats what makes me feel better, we pickup on silken and definitely on ansurek so im looking forward to that
warm crag
yeah going from brood to ky'veza is funny we go from top to mid, cant have it al...
wdym bottom
fury is middle of the pack and arms is legit upper half
hard widget
uh oh. Brown bar is a little high.... Please god, don't nerf us.
OMG ITS ENHA TOP DPS LIKE THE LAST 5 WEEKS 😮
queen linden
OMG ITS ENHA TOP DPS LIKE THE LAST 5 WEEKS 😮
Blue on top??? Brown to the bottom!
queen linden
Hmmm, warrior still doing well then.
fiery hare
The moment i decide to lvl my enha will be nerf enha time
queen linden
Need to be on par while you're 25 ilvls lower.
forest owl
wdym bottom
corrected and not all of us want to play arms.
queen linden
Did arms for a couple m+, while it was very boring, it was consistent in the dmg
thick fossil
Slayer or Colossus?
past swan
Whats better btw mana oil or weight stone?
thick fossil
Is there a new sharpening/weight stone?
eternal sundial
ye but it costs a LOT
oblique trail
Technically speaking Stone should be a tiny bit ahead
But the cost is so much higher that it's not worth thinking about 👍
past swan
Technically speaking Stone should be a tiny bit ahead
ty
Cost don't matter i can make them myself just wanted to know if it was better than oil or not
oblique trail
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cwn7RUDAQJ2nbaBdHeJ63Z this is an archaic sim of mine tbf, haven't checked recently, but it was equal/within margin back then
In AoE, the stones should be a tiny bit better at least
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vC9qVf3Czwh6YQJawQSYLX
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bJktJkfooRK6qghAdjEwsp or not 👍
clever belfry
uh oh fury solos an entire mechanic in mythic ansurek this is totally fine
and tanks solo tanking the boss
i think this is an unfair thing to say.
warm crag
and tanks solo tanking the boss
grrr
thick fossil
I will say, tanking raid is pretty boring minus Court.
M+ tanking is much more entertaining.
inland stone
What's better for fury Mountain thane or slayer . I play mostly slayer and I saw some nice things on the thane skills like 30% more dmg on bloodthirsty.
oblique trail
Technically Thane should perform a bit better, but you can play either one in M+ depending on your preference
In raid however, it's only Slayer except for Silken Court where either one can be played
inland stone
Usually I do with gear lvl 750k with 800k .I don't know if it ok dps .with slayer
thick fossil
Usually I do with gear lvl 750k with 800k .I don't know if it ok dps .with slaye...
What's the ilvl?
inland stone
Overall
wraith wasp
Slayer is more consistent (and faster imo); Thane has you pressing more buttons but very viable
oblique trail
750-800k overall is not good
Unless you're quite literally freshly dinged lvl 80 with minimal gear
thick fossil
If they're like 580 ilvl that's fine.
onyx dove
Any thane M+ build recommendation ? I never see 2 warrior with the same build and I don't know what to choose... pushing 12+
ornate gust
oblique trail
The different builds do slightly different things, but not by enough to really warrant changing around unless you specifically need it in an organised group
thick fossil
500$ for a mount?
finite spruce
How bad am I gimping myself using BS with MT? BS is my favorite button and would hate to drop it
inland stone
I returned after 6 years in wow and still I suck 😅 imma need to stop playing
cerulean pawn
not really?
onyx dove
Just pick the one that's recommended in <#1237303208754286715>
thanks
lethal dew
is AM a bait? it sims higher for both st and aoe but literaly noone from high rio warriors runs it
everyone ra
oblique trail
How bad am I gimping myself using BS with MT? BS is my favorite button and would...
It's very much not recommended as with BS you overcap your Thunder Blast stacks easily, and Ravager allows you to continue your rotation while spending said Thunder Blast stacks
boreal stratus
hello guys 🙂 is there a chance to talk to a Warrior ekspert in voice room or so ? 🙂
oblique trail
I returned after 6 years in wow and still I suck 😅 imma need to stop playing
No one tells you to stop playing, and performing bad isn't necessarily a bad thing as it means you have much to learn
finite spruce
It's very much not recommended as with BS you overcap your Thunder Blast stacks ...
Rip I’ll have to slot ravages today and try to get the hang of it. Rotation shouldn’t change too much other than letting BB proc off unhinged yeah?
inland stone
I will look at dps faq. But I don't know if it make any difference. But thanks for your time guys .and I try to improve
oblique trail
Rip I’ll have to slot ravages today and try to get the hang of it. Rotation shou...
Basically yes
oblique trail
I will look at dps faq. But I don't know if it make any difference. But thanks...
I'd recommend reading the wowhead guide at least to get an idea of the rotation, and go practice it for a bit on the dummies
I think the fact that BS makes it so you risk overcapping TBs is enough of a drawback to not use it
oblique trail
Something can simwise be slightly ahead but in practice infinitely worse due to other factors
finite spruce
I know that ravager doesn’t technically make the burst roto much harder but BS just makes everything feel so much easier to me. I’m just used to it tho. I’m sure I can get used to ravager
oblique trail
(usually user error or rotational changes)
modest condor
thane just has too many buttons to press during burst
finite spruce
Only dung I tried ravager on so far is GB
modest condor
are you playing with titanic rage?
finite spruce
Yeah
modest condor
my opener then is
charge > reck+ava+roar macro > rampage > ravager > thunderblast > crushing blow > rampage > OF and then just start rotating between rampage, crushing blow and thunderblast whichever one is up with the highest prio until ravager is over
that way you never waste thunderblast procs and all your unhinged will go to bloodbath
finite spruce
Right on I’ll spend some time on dummies to build some muscle memory thanks man
inland stone
Can I say my rotation to see if I use it correctly?
finite spruce
Yeah figured just to slot that when dot wears off
lethal dew
actual rotation with titanic rage is charge -> all cooldowns macro -> release spirit
because you pull aggro
thick fossil
modest condor
i give my tank a couple of seconds and he's good enough that by then he has aggro
in pugs you may run into some aggro issues yeah
thick fossil
lethal dew
main reason why i stopped playing titanic is that, and its understandable that its impossible to get aggro that fast, so you have to wait anyway and why even play it then
if you can build rage for rampage to get enrage in the same time while you would be waiting
modest condor
yeah that makes sense
but tbh i can also just go in with a thunderclap and do some normal cleave while a pull is being setup
at least with titanic rage i dont have to worry about whirlwind stacks when i do actually use my burst
and it's some extra OF damage
lethal dew
but your next global after burst macro is thunderblast anyway
isnt it
so ww stacks irrelevant
fading sky
Vc x 2 no of problem solved😆
calm quartz
modest condor
i mean if you're not playing TR you would just thunderclap before starting your burst anyway so it's not like you cant play around it
but i just prefer it this way
fading sky
Its was.more not dieng on pull
I play of coz i love the ability
Ofc if its ever totally shit ill prob play something else
sage karma
So, in AoE is it better to press Bloodbath over Crushing Blow if I have whirlwind stacks?
or is it always Crushing Blow > Bloodbath
sage karma
I thought so
fading sky
Cb = 15% more crit on bb
sage karma
Wondering why Hekili (which I only use for enh shaman cause I'm stupid, was just testing my dps vs hekili dps on dummies) was suggesting bb then
fading sky
So silly doing bb-cb then get crit for bt
sage karma
like I have cb and whirlwind stacks and it suggests bb -> cb??
modest condor
how many targets?
modest condor
i mean it's a pretty small difference but cb > bb is ahead http://puu.sh/KieKc/a1d94807f9.png
main reason is that you're gonna press both anyway, so as thegokke said may as well get the buffs from cb on bb rather than potentially "wasting" them on bt
lament otter
Neat, congratz
sage karma
main reason is that you're gonna press both anyway, so as thegokke said may as w...
yeah makes sense
lament otter
@worldly lily Whats your other weapon?
worldly lily
worldly lily
yeah I know, my primary target is lvluping common eq for prot and fury
and then crafting
lament otter
Ah, fair
You can get a free enchanted crest from killing queen on story mode
if you didnt know
worldly lily
but tbh this axe from black temple looks nice
lament otter
its not bad looking considering its age
south kayak
yo
worldly lily
haste/mastery would be better, but still is ok
worldly lily
You can get a free enchanted crest from killing queen on story mode
plan on crafting 636 shield and then 2h weapon
warm crag
if you craft the 2h first you can free upgrade your sword and shield to 636 for no crests iirc
lament otter
takes a while to farm 2x 90 crests for 636
warm crag
if you already have hc track of those slots
worldly lily
if you craft the 2h first you can free upgrade your sword and shield to 636 for ...
really? how?
lament otter
Huh, I should have known that
worldly lily
I got nice 1h hc and shield hc
warm crag
you know regular upgrade rules ye
if you already have a high ilvl thing in a slot u can upgrade to the same level with a valorstone discount and it will cost no crests
(exceptions apply)
plucky oak
Is there a way to only show a single key value in party finder? If I type 8 it gives me +/- 1 and just a minor annoyance
warm crag
a 2h weapon will give that discount to any weapon and shield you can wear (iirc) at least i was able to upgrade a 1h and shield for free
double check whether this is true since i did this like weeks ago but it should still work
warm crag
Is there a way to only show a single key value in party finder? If I type 8 it g...
type 7 9
worldly lily
a 2h weapon will give that discount to any weapon and shield you can wear (iirc)...
ok got it
worldly lily
Do you want the link for the story mode guide?
no thanks, got wrist already crafted
lament otter
Ah, alright
heavy dock
Is there a way to only show a single key value in party finder? If I type 8 it g...
8-8
humble plover
guild wants me to read raid plan, warriors cant read what do i do?
dry hawk
35 fucking runs later
modest condor
grats, now you can get it from the vault
dry hawk
I was so tired of x2 on use
dry hawk
grats, now you can get it from the vault
🧐 😭
sad thing is you prolly right
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6vnnDShVDTWTRGHGcGWF7r wait TF it sims better than Mark?
dry hawk
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f87XzNya1J4QxyBHzmUBL2 that would expain this one then
unreal frost
did the 11.0.7 update significantly impact racial preferences, I know there was some discussion I saw on mag'har
oblique trail
Not particularly for warrior no
And none of the races are particularly important either for DPS reasons, mostly just visual/utility
I.e Dracthyr for Ansurek prog, or dwarf/nelf for M+
night relic
Dwarf racial is just disgusting
humble plover
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/utwEj4aiiF1cncfeF2nHGg
so close i can taste it
lament otter
I honestly think the void elf rift is pretty usefull now
dry hawk
would it be worth crafting a 636 ring?
warm crag
sim question
usually yeah unless you have an ansurek ring you can upgrade your other ring for free (if you exploit)
sage karma
would it be worth crafting a 636 ring?
Jewellery is worth
dry hawk
40k for 2 rings so 20k per ring doesnt seem worth to me but 🤷
trim hound
Legit depends on your current gear situation, as always
trim hound
I got 2 crafted rings cuz I just haven't been getting any in vault/raid and had crests to spare because I got both Rare Neck and Cloak from vault.
oblique trail
If you are clearing raid and/or doing +10s, I'd argue it's only really worth crafting 1 ring
And do the funny exploit that's not an exploit but clearly just a clever use of game mechanics
So you can upgrade a 2nd ring to 636 with no crests
pearl crypt
trim hound
Wish blizz would make a statement about that. Doubt there's gonna be any punishments for cheeky ring recrafters at this point
oblique trail
Don't think they've punished anyone except the RWF guys and rogues (if they even did anything against the rogues)
dry hawk
If you are clearing raid and/or doing +10s, I'd argue it's only really worth cra...
I do 10's/mythic raid and rings have been the 1 thing murdering me. Will prolly just craft after vault next wek
oblique trail
Despite people doing stuff like BoE farms and resetting the raid instead of waiting the standard 30 min
So I imagine that Blizzard does not see the raid resetting as an exploit, and will probably fix the crafting stuff without saying anything for next seasons
restive peak
Yeah they didn’t even punish the rogues, they said they would but wox kept everything
dry hawk
They'll just nerf boe chances
oblique trail
I'm certain they decided to buff BoE drop rates because they locked them for the first 4 weeks
dry hawk
True we saw boe drop central week 1 and haven't seen one since
trim hound
My raid got 4 BoE drops on mythic from the trash before Brood and Ky'Veza. It was glorious.
viscid condor
You can get hero gear from timewarped?
sage karma
You can get hero gear from timewarped?
From the weekly chest I believe
heavy dock
And from brd on heroic
velvet canopy
Yeah, it's the quest you pick up in Shattrath
feral ivy
damn hard to get past 11's
summer crater
damn hard to get past 11's
At that point people will care a lot about you not bringing any real utility and on top of that lower damage than the the other main mythic dps specs
feral ivy
sucks 😦 ppl wont even apply to my keys as well
viscid condor
I've actually had a lot more success just hosting keys
but yeah meta enjoyers
makes sense honestly
nocturne dragon
sucks 😦 ppl wont even apply to my keys as well
make it as tank (prot war), ppl will rush to apply
rigid mango
For some reason I can't get my own target dummy logs to match up with my quick sims for single target. The big damage difference is bladestorm. Raidbots is showing me do waaay more damage from bladestorm. I'm getting the same number of casts in and I always have the +3 hits buff from sudden death. How do I fix this? I'm usually offe by >100k dps
summer crater
For some reason I can't get my own target dummy logs to match up with my quick s...
Are all the buffs off in raidbots?
sturdy violet
if they would just add actual utility would be fine
People cope about utility every season but fact is at the end of the day only thing that matters is damage. All DF people wrote essays about priest utility and mage defensives but the truth is the comp did obscene amounts of damage. If fury gets a 25% buff to aoe people will suddenly "discover" that IV is actually super broken and def stance+reflect is the most OP defensive combo ever etc
lament hinge
yea but our damage isnt that great either
ornate gust
damn hard to get past 11's
me too.. Stuck at that stage 😦
sturdy violet
yes. That's why they could give us lust and make rally 30% in dungeons and whatever else people suggest and none of that matters. Only thing that really decides what is good for m+ is the damage you do
summer crater
Unless you're an augment
rigid mango
Are all the buffs off in raidbots?
yes
rigid mango
raidbots includes unhinged in bladestorm
Ok ty, definitely explains part of it then
keen fulcrum
How many crafted items can we have right now?
south kayak
2 times I've done a group with everyone else having sac and it didn't drop
keen fulcrum
2 times I've done a group with everyone else having sac and it didn't drop
Same
pale sable
any1 else noticed a delay in of 7-8s between trinket and the other cd's like reck+avatar+roar in dungeons when using all together in a macro?
keen fulcrum
GCD?
sick jungle
feral ivy
anyone's keys randomly not work? idk what addon/WA not allowing me to type. unless i do /rl but i cant use l sometimes so i have to do /rL
thick fossil
damn hard to get past 11's
I am at that point now. Everything timed at 11, and 12s are damn near impossible to get into.
sullen cloak
hey guys...for Fury Slayer, the hero talent tree for single target is different on wowhead and icyveins which one is correct?
fervent yoke
hey guys...for Fury Slayer, the hero talent tree for single target is different ...
Hey, yes most people are just going to tell you sim it in here.. but they assume you know how to already. Do you know how?
Warr chat collectively has one brain cell so just make sure you explain you never simmed before
wary fjord
humble plover
That would really upset this chat if they knew how to read
fervent yoke
😂😂😂
sullen cloak
I do know...I just thought there was a set standard...will do it now
thanks for the reply though bud
opal sapphire
I wonder at what point people will start to understand that despite having decent damage fury will never be meta
and thus u will never get invited to keys
cursive hound
Just like WW monk
cursive hound
Vanilla bro
humble plover
Can't be meta in vanilla when everything is easy
cursive hound
Well at least we get to zug zug
humble plover
Like saying the best normal raid class
opal sapphire
i mean we are fine for m+ now too, but there is just much better
and people will pick whats better
opal sapphire
i find it quite sad that people spend a lot of their playtime in the lfg minigame.
humble plover
I did. They prefer DK and shaman too
humble plover
Real
quiet geyser
We've been good in the past, just not the best
DF season 2 before the aug patch, fury was arguably the best dps spec
Short lived tho 😦
wary fjord
I mean, yes, but not for long
Ye
I want SL s3 and s4 surv hunter energy
Like, broken beyond belief
quiet geyser
Ye destro was cranked
wary fjord
Destro was better in s3 I think
meager void
Just raid and enjoy your RL calling for rally
chilly fractal
I thought both destro and surv were absolutely cracked for S3 and 4 for SL
And blood DK
young swan
they were
young swan
but speaking about broken specs im pretty sure destro was just better
quiet geyser
But like, you shouldn't wish for that lol. Surv/destro in shadowlands was beyond stupid broken in m+, and with fury's history of getting overly nerfed, we'd get smacked into oblivion
young swan
im still of the belief that if unhinged didnt get shot in the head fury would be an insane m+ pick
wary fjord
But like, you shouldn't wish for that lol. Surv/destro in shadowlands was beyond...
I wish it being like how it was for them, where they weren't giganerfed
pale lava
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/38#boss=2902&class=Warrior&spec=Fury&externalBuffs=2
damn almost got the korean
wary fjord
Ye, if unhinged cleaved, we'd be so much better
quiet geyser
We'd just end up getting giganerfed tho haha
wary fjord
You can hope
quiet geyser
im still of the belief that if unhinged didnt get shot in the head fury would be...
Unhinged, bladestorm, and OF nerfs all reverted
quiet geyser
young swan
everythin else can stay
sullen dove
Xan when like 12 more bts hit and maybe 1 or 2 more reap procs on bladestorm
(spec gains 200% aoe)
young swan
Xan when like 12 more bts hit and maybe 1 or 2 more reap procs on bladestorm
16 per bladestorm
quiet geyser
Bladestorm probably needed a nerf. I dont agree with the OF nerf. They legit just nerfed it back to how it was before being buffed in the first place, and the top m+ spec doesnt even use it again lol
young swan
if you get 4 reap procs in a bladestorm it does almost as much damage as the actual bladestorm
wary fjord
Lmao
young swan
making that more consistent is wild
sullen dove
poob
quiet geyser
It's fair, we are capped
Fury should be capped imo. It should however be absolute giga king at ~5 target cleave though
wary fjord
If we have to be capped, we should be god of 5 target yes
sullen dove
there should be a support spec that shreds armor of mobs it hits
south kayak
for some reason reap almost does 300% AP in damage
I think WW cleave should be 70% damage
young swan
I think WW cleave should be 70% damage
70% is just wishful thinking
wary fjord
Nah, only works for us
young swan
65% is more reasonable
narrow narwhal
Sundered armor
south kayak
65% is more reasonable
5% more is wishful? lmao
sullen dove
Is it 60% now?
young swan
5% more is wishful? lmao
look at how much they flip flop between 50% and 55%
sullen dove
Thought 55
south kayak
it's 55
sullen dove
Yer
wary fjord
Or give us the outlaw treatment, 8 targets
young swan
also isnt SS 75%?
wary fjord
sullen dove
60% would be reasonable
young swan
or 70%
sullen dove
quiet geyser
look at how much they flip flop between 50% and 55%
It was 45% at 1 point!
south kayak
Or give us the outlaw treatment, 8 targets
so true
red berry
tbf 60-65% whirlwind damage would
young swan
It was 45% at 1 point!
yeah 
sullen dove
Sweeping like 75 but that’s only 1 extra target
red berry
be enough to improve our damage quite a bit
young swan
Sweeping like 75 but that’s only 1 extra target
yeah thats why i think 70% is unreasonable for fury unless if u just giga buff SS
which im also fine with
quiet geyser
Keep it 55% but give slayer fan of long swords so you never have to press WW 
sullen dove
70 def too far but doubt they even ever go to 65 before doing 60 for a long time
wary fjord
SS should be 100% if frost dk can 3 target obliterates for full
south kayak
They should keep buffing WW if they are gonna nerf our aoe cds
red berry
Keep it 55% but give slayer fan of long swords so you never have to press WW <:c...
that would be too be gross for mountain thane
south kayak
does it tho
sullen dove
Should be a colossus node that adds 1 more target to sweeping strikes
That’d go insane
3 target demolish
quiet geyser
does it tho
Yes, absolutely lol
lunar haven
Quick question since i cant find it anywere whats stronger manaoil or wetstones ??
meager void
Mana oil
wary fjord
Sim, but usually mana oil
young swan
its so funny that they wanted hero talents to be ~20% damage and now like every specs best hero talent represents like 50% dam on their breakdown lmfao
wary fjord
Lmao
meager void
You know about the invites thing
lunar haven
even tho its that little stats ?
quiet geyser
Isnt ret pally like 70%?
wary fjord
Ye
sullen dove
its so funny that they wanted hero talents to be ~20% damage and now like every ...
That like including buffed abilities tho too or
young swan
yeah
sullen dove
Top of my head mountain thane in m+ is maybe 20-25 with Tb and lightning strikes
red berry
i thikn id like thunderclap more if it wasnt nerfed 3%
meager void
Is it fair to say your general keyholder is a meta chasing fool?
young swan
yeah prob
quiet geyser
Top of my head mountain thane in m+ is maybe 20-25 with Tb and lightning strikes
Also has all the + rb/bt dmg stuff tho
meager void
Because warriors have a very good place in some of these dungeons
Like, AraKara is warrior paradise
red berry
but no a 5-10% buff on whirlwind would at least improve our consistent pack to pack/AoE damage
make us feel less limp
meager void
StoneVault? Gimme more
young swan
Top of my head mountain thane in m+ is maybe 20-25 with Tb and lightning strikes
yeah but thats only including direct damage sources and not including all of the aura buffs, rage gen increases, use of new abilities
like just the act of taking tclap increases damage in aoe
quiet geyser
but no a 5-10% buff on whirlwind would at least improve our consistent pack to p...
Still think adding fan of long swords is the better route. WW just doesn't feel fun to press
Also a slight ST boost 🙂
meager void
It builds upon itself, thats how Thane feels.
wary fjord
Just give us original seismic reverb
75% damage increase on tclap in 3+ target
Pretty good
Or was it 100%?
modest condor
wasnt there a period where arms could get like 50000% damage bonus on their whirlwind or something
modest condor
with that sweeping strikes thing that buffs your next whirlwind based on how much rage you spend
combined with seismic
wary fjord
Oh ye
idle ember
I wish RA thane wasn't the best for M+
modest condor
and that conduit
idle ember
getting kinda stale
modest condor
yeah that one
sour frigate
Imagine if we got mbg back on fury
wary fjord
Nuke time
quiet geyser
Dude imagine if we had shadowlands merciless bonegrinder as fury again, with AM slayer? Every like 25 seconds being a beyblade 😅
sullen bison
In M+ Mountain Thane Build, can I drop Ravager for Bladestorm? Is it a big difference? Ravager is meh to play :>
wary fjord
In M+ Mountain Thane Build, can I drop Ravager for Bladestorm? Is it a big diffe...
You lose out on TB procs if u do that
Or can at least
modest condor
Dude imagine if we had shadowlands merciless bonegrinder as fury again, with AM ...
oh god
south kayak
its so funny that they wanted hero talents to be ~20% damage and now like every ...
Imagine if this wasn't evergreen
and we were going into next expac
modest condor
i was fine with mbg on a 1minute cooldown, but every 25 seconds oof
quiet geyser
i was fine with mbg on a 1minute cooldown, but every 25 seconds oof
It would he kinda fun tho
sullen bison
You lose out on TB procs if u do that
ty
modest condor
i liked how it actually changed our aoe rotation during cooldowns, even if it was just spamming the same button for 9 seconds
modest condor
but if that's the rotation 40% of the time idk man
south kayak
what rotation are you talking about
modest condor
mbg
young swan
would mbg even make pressing ww worth it for us lmfao
young swan
wasn't legion fury basically spamming WW tho
every other global sorta
young swan
you used it to cleave BT and Rampage
wary fjord
Big clappa time
young swan
i dont really remember the aoe rotation tho
chilly fractal
God I hated legion
young swan
???
chilly fractal
It came at a bad time
wary fjord
Legion was great for fury
chilly fractal
I can hate things people like
quiet geyser
would mbg even make pressing ww worth it for us lmfao
With current coefficients, ya probably not lmao
young swan
I sort of thinking about it now
sullen dove
with that sweeping strikes thing that buffs your next whirlwind based on how muc...
The lords of dread burn
Hit like a 100k dmg per hit whirlwind on both bosses
sullen dove
After stacking up a fat collateral
young swan
but extra attack speed from enrage as the baseline and then getting either frenzied or powerful?
goated
south kayak
annd shitty damage after burst
south kayak
youll plumment after cds
chilly fractal
I didn’t want my first legendary to be the healing bracers
chilly fractal
Horrible memories
quiet geyser
I just want legion execute back 😦
young swan
Identical button
not even close
sullen dove
Same with commanding shout and rallying cry make up your damn mind idiot game
young swan
battlecry was 100% crit chance for 5s with 35% crit damage (by the end of the xpac)
you can sub out the crit damage for just "every point of crit past 100 is converted to crit damage"
chilly fractal
Yea Blizzard should give us the option to provide Fort with Commanding Shout again
young swan
that way crit stays somewhat relevant for us
south kayak
I just want legion execute back 😦
I don't
south kayak
1min cd with AM
you're assuming everything is going to be the same with BC coming back
young swan
yeah thats exactly what im assuming
south kayak
:chatting
young swan
i literally said paste legion fury foundation into tww
south kayak
bet
chilly fractal
Let’s get Cataclysm Death Wish back in the game
south kayak
remove TR?
young swan
whats broken about 30s CD battlecry
even at 30s cd its only what
like ~15% uptime?
thats normal
chilly fractal
Where we all wear a mastery set pre pull
young swan
also i personally like the idea of BT going back to being crit based
sullen dove
Forgot the 100% crit thing but yea think that was only thing, did warr have avatar back then
young swan
Forgot the 100% crit thing but yea think that was only thing, did warr have avat...
yeah
sullen dove
Cuz like 100% crit is way more damage than just 20% shit from avatar
sullen dove
young swan
so funny that fresh meat has unironically been usless for like a decade
and they just havent doen shit about it
cerulean gyro
What's the soft and hard cap for haste?
young swan
What's the soft and hard cap for haste?
doesnt exist just sim ur guy
sullen dove
both of those things don’t exsit
quiet geyser
We used fresh meat in shadowlands no?
sullen dove
Except hard cap which is what like… 270% or something? lol
young swan
no
young swan
We used fresh meat in shadowlands no?
i didnt play that expansion but im doubtful
summer crater
I unironically miss gearing around hit and expertise
cerulean gyro
shit i've been living under a rock the past few years
quiet geyser
i didnt play that expansion but im doubtful
We 100% used it in m+
sullen dove
I think fresh meat m+ when you spear bladestorm mbg ww spam insta
not have enough rage to ramp right away
quiet geyser
It didnt give enrage tho
young swan
yeah it was poo
summer crater
Except hard cap which is what like… 270% or something? lol
My hardcap is how much I lag on tww raids
young swan
quiet geyser
Siege breaker existed
Dude siege breaker should be baked into current onslaught, so when you use it, your primary target gets the dmg debuff. Would actually make it good again
young swan
they should just make roar bloodbath
young swan
like give it a bote style explosion
south kayak
We don't need more cds
young swan
so its not a macroable fire and forget
south kayak
even TR is too much
DoI should be Bloodbath
Recklessness makes your damaging abilities apply a dot for 40% damage
there u go
anyone?
quiet geyser
I like it
I do think TR should still go though. We have too many AoE thing as cap stones
young swan
Recklessness makes your damaging abilities apply a dot for 40% damage
you would prob have to make reck cost a gcd
young swan
I do think TR should still go though. We have too many AoE thing as cap stones
spear is first in line to get rid of
same button as spear but harder to use
quiet geyser
Get rid of both for all i care lol
young swan
you would prob have to make reck cost a gcd
which is why i suggested reworking roar functionality to just be bloodbath btw
cause there is no way that button comes back into wow without occupying a GCD
that shit is broken as fuck
quiet geyser
The fact every fury build already has rav/bs, and can also easily get OF for on demand AoE.. we dont really need to also have spear/TR. Get rid of both and give something cool
young swan
1.5m cd, talented 45s cd, 16s of 40% damage amp (effectively)
quiet geyser
Then without TF, can also get rid of bloodbourne. It would be cool to get something similar to classic deep wounds, would give crit so much more value
young swan
1.5m cd, talented 45s cd, 16s of 40% damage amp (effectively)
also if this doesnt demonstrate how obscenely broken bb is
like that already sounds like an insane CD
and it used to be 30s cd baseline lmfao
celest sierra
any of u guys struggle getting into keys ?
quiet geyser
also if this doesnt demonstrate how obscenely broken bb is
If legion BB came back, I'd prefer it only be in fury tree lol
Not general
south kayak
you would prob have to make reck cost a gcd
I don't mind that
solemn widget
where are the timings posted for Mythic Silken court that critcake reference in his vid? Can someone help my warrior brain? For 45s cds
orchid dagger
spear is first in line to get rid of
Common pve L
molten spire
any of u guys struggle getting into keys ?
yes
young swan
Common pve L
spear doesnt even do shit in pvp!
90% of classes can just get out!
stop capping!
south kayak
also if this doesnt demonstrate how obscenely broken bb is
The only reason it was that op is because you used BC alongside with it all times
celest sierra
yes
same im 2800+ in io and unless i que with a friend (dk or tank) etc or shammy barely any invites
this is so dumb
orchid dagger
90% of classes can just get out!
they have to time it right, or have a blanket immunity
south kayak
We have too many cds
molten spire
same im 2800+ in io and unless i que with a friend (dk or tank) etc or shammy b...
Why would you bring a warrior
As always we don't bring pretty much anything
south kayak
I think Avatar talent should be, during recklessness your damage is increased by 20% @young swan
No reason to have avatar as a separate cd if we use it along side reck all the time
quiet geyser
@young swan remove spear and TR out of general tree, put bladestorm/rav in there instead since all specs can use it anyways, and give fury legion BB in the fury spec tree where bladestorm currently is 🙃 can give arms something cool too inplace of bladestorm
celest sierra
nvm all is well just got into another 12 lmao
orchid dagger
Why would you bring a warrior
Prot war gets brought
celest sierra
w
south kayak
same issue in legion where u just literally macroed every single fucking cds together
celest sierra
we guccie
molten spire
Prot war gets brought
Right. But any tank gets brought
nimble ermine
or just let unhinged cleave now
south kayak
forget about unhinged cleave
celest sierra
make whirlwind a passive
south kayak
make whirlwind a passive
How does that work?
celest sierra
when surrounded by 2 + enemies we auto cleave
nimble ermine
what
pallid storm
Rampage casts whirlwind like in torghast.
celest sierra
or that
yeh let Rampage proc whirlwind, while odyns still gives us a stack of it also
ORRRRRRRRRRRRRR give Warriors bloodlust ffs
like its so weird how warrior doesnt have bloodlust we are literally the bloodthirstiest class outside blood dk
south kayak
They're not giving lust to a class that has a tank
celest sierra
they can make it arms/fury specific
celest sierra
cr?
young swan
combat rez
opaque falcon
Am I doing this right? Reck > charge > avatar > roar > BS > OF
south kayak
xan
what do you think of avatar not being a cd
and a passive giving 20% damage during reck
in the talents
reck procs torments
celest sierra
or make our cds 1min like rets
young swan
id prefer they just put extra strength into reck but I feel like if ur gonna remove avatar you should just make reck more interesting as well
celest sierra
How is anger management lookin right now with mountain thane
young swan
people have been enjoying it as far as I know
opaque falcon
@young swan am I doing it right?
south kayak
id prefer they just put extra strength into reck but I feel like if ur gonna rem...
Well, my idea is also to make Reck have bloodbath
that's interesting enough, no?
young swan
sure
young swan
Am I doing this right? Reck > charge > avatar > roar > BS > OF
probaby should throw in a rampage somewhere after charge and before BS
celest sierra
Whats the talent build for AM thane
young swan
what talents are u swapping for me
im not playing it
opaque falcon
probaby should throw in a rampage somewhere after charge and before BS
Ok
errant vessel
anyone know why I sometimes have like 9x sacbrood stacks prepull?
and how to replicate
young swan
rng
south kayak
sure
I also think they should make slaughtering strikes something of a secondary resource
Execute gives 2, BT and RB give 1
like tip of the spear for survival
young swan
it still wouldnt be something you play around tho
young swan
that you would never play around
nimble ermine
but that wouldnt do much
south kayak
well, it doesn't have to be played around
just cooler ig
lol
maybe it helps make execute higher prio
young swan
if you want a secondary resource you have have to attach it to an ability that you dont already play your entire rotation around
south kayak
idk
south kayak
oh uh
hmm
after 10 slaughtering strikes
you can execute?
and that execute deals more damage
something like marked
nimble ermine
no
young swan
we already dont press that shit ass button lmfao
unless if its being buffed by like
100%
celest sierra
exactly
young swan
(3xMfE stacks)
celest sierra
let them buff the buttons we actually use
orchid dagger
we already dont press that shit ass button lmfao
because Execute is undertuned
cursive hound
we dont execute?
orchid dagger
Make Execute Great Again
young swan
it also interacts with 0 of our kit
celest sierra
honestly make Reckless and AM one talent
young swan
unless if its being buffed by 3xMfE
young swan
we dont execute?
you almost never press a natural execute
nimble ermine
simply make onslaught apply bloodbath
button is now saved
a weaker version of bb tho
clever path
It’s kind of funny a hero spec called slayer doesn’t execute often
nimble ermine
but then again, war needs fucking god
changing 1 or 2 buttons is fun and all but yea
celest sierra
if u ask me remove spear and replace it with a blood lust talent
young swan
great idea
nimble ermine
talent into lust lmao
quiet geyser
You want bloodlust as a fucking capstone?
nimble ermine
make it more aids for us to rake roar
celest sierra
i mean spear is barely used and it sucks compared to roar
nimble ermine
its not enough that att is in a shit fucking spot in the talent tree
lust as a capstone is not it man
young swan
condemn (not an active ability but the effects)
nimble ermine
and move attt somewhere else so i can get both 45s roar and bleed
young swan
as much as I hate condemn sympathizers
nimble ermine
or blood of the enemy
tbh i wish reck would be replaced with it but yea
young swan
Rampage should be baseline also
it should be where raging blow is currently
rb should be where BT is
BT should be baseline when you spec fury
celest sierra
literally now that i look at the tree our literally 3 main abilities are talent nodes lmao
lmao dafuq
or put Rampage where BT is and take BT and RB off the talent tree and make them baseline
shadow maple
In kyvheza if i got market 2 times im a row with the dash how i survive that? On mm
nimble ermine
natty
young swan
In kyvheza if i got market 2 times im a row with the dash how i survive that? On...
ask for an external
celest sierra
In kyvheza if i got market 2 times im a row with the dash how i survive that? On...
pray to the gods
young swan
use a health pot
sudden tusk
idk we definitely have way too many cd's
playing the Odyns 1 point varient of Thane is good but is so akward lmao
young swan
playing the Odyns 1 point varient of Thane is good but is so akward lmao
yeah ive been enjoying it some
shadow maple
pray to the gods
Okay i get it
celest sierra
CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxghhZwywMzGMMjxwMMzssNzYmZWYmxMzwMsYbGmZMAAAQYMwGssZ0YGQmFYxYB boutta try this AM build in a 12
young swan
but its a little awkward
sudden tusk
yeah fitting odyns in while you still have reck just feels wrong
but yuo gotta do it
young swan
you just replace a tblast with OF
its not that bad
you're never really at risk of overcapping on tblast
south kayak
it should be where raging blow is currently
No wonder Raging blow has such a high prio butw, when it has fucking talents buffing it by 15%
Cruelty, 15
wrath and fury 15
improved raging blow
young swan
slayers malice is another 30%
young swan
thorims might or whatever is 25%
celest sierra
wrath and fury 15
u really only BT to proc gushing wounds
south kayak
no you don't
remove cruelty
or make it execute damage
while enrage, execute damage is increased by 15%
nimble ermine
or just buff execute damage by a higher number than just 7%
south kayak
Execute might be undertuned but that's not hte main issue
it's how strong RB is
and the other fillers
nimble ermine
undertuned is underselling it
south kayak
is it really
nimble ermine
on thane i never touch that button
unless i somehow dont have anything up and i need rage
which is like neever
south kayak
RB deals the most damage, gives slaughtering strikes, resets it's cd
like there's no way you'll press execute after all this
near tide
during a boss fight is it troll to hold bladestorm for Odyn's fury so the bladestorm gets the 4 seconds of the Avatar buff??
south kayak
I like Xan's idea
to make Slaughtering Strikes affect Execute
RB buffs Execute
Or Rampage/BT and RB proc slaughtering strikes to improve execute damage
Let me count raging blow talents
- Cruelty, 2. Slaughtering Strikes, 3. Wrath and Fury, 4. Bloodcraze, 5. Improved Raging blow,
Execute: massacre and Ashen Jugg
and none of them really directly increase execute damage
Ashen Jugg should increase damage and critical strike chance
instead of just crit
modest condor
during a boss fight is it troll to hold bladestorm for Odyn's fury so the blades...
if it's close you can hold
like a couple of seconds
pulsar quest
Ashen Jugg should increase damage and critical strike chance
This
south kayak
Like that's easy enough to make it worth using during execute
50% damage and crit chance?
pulsar quest
And MfE should damage amp execute as strong as BoP amps bloodthirst change my mind
south kayak
no brainer
pulsar quest
Why can I bloodbath crit 2m but my execute hits like a noodle with 3 mfe
vocal gazelle
You can bloodbath crit for 2m in current content?
south kayak
yeah you can easily
modest condor
yes
young swan
you can crit bb for like 3.4m in current content
near tide
if it's close you can hold
so hold if its 5, send it if its 10?
vocal gazelle
Slayer crit that high?
young swan
nah
glad coyote
how are you not hitting 2mil bb's?
south kayak
no
modest condor
so hold if its 5, send it if its 10?
yeah something like that
near tide
ty!
young swan
slayer can go up to like 2.5m
south kayak
Thane has 30% baseline buff to BB and 35% damage from burst of power
vocal gazelle
😮
south kayak
that's substantial
pulsar quest
you can crit bb for like 3.4m in current content
That’s my point
south kayak
xan, do you think Onslaught should be removed?
south kayak
And in that place, there should be an execute talent
What if execute increases damage done to the target for a few seconds
Pepelaff
6 to be exact
and it's a buff
pulsar quest
What if, and hear me out, jugg made execute do more damage
modest condor
i mean execute can do some decent damage as well
young swan
xan, do you think Onslaught should be removed?
I think it either needs to be removed or get new functionality
glad coyote
would love to see some sort of banner for warriors
pulsar quest
What if they made onslaught a burst window like ToM 😏
glad coyote
group cooldown banner
south kayak
I think it either needs to be removed or get new functionality
What if Execute is basically onslaught?
young swan
it already kind of is
south kayak
lmao
young swan
they're sort of the same button but onslaught has better synergy with the base kit lmfao
south kayak
why the fuck does onslaught do less damage than RB
????
THE FUCK
this is a fucking crime
gilded pawn
does it actually
pulsar quest
Rb has 69 modifiers
young swan
RB is just under 300% AP and onslaught is 318%