#fury

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chrome plover
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being able to get full value out of 2 on use trinkets in 1.5 minutes is great

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but then they are on cooldown

sullen cloak
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ok makes sense bud.

I am just finding it odd that for burst it is just so low. I am wondering if its because Corrosive has such high base strength

chrome plover
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every 2 minutes

slow drift
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Does anyone know if skarmorak shard beats out transmitter in m+ where the passive is up constantly?

or do people just prefer it for the fire-and-forget nature of shard

sullen cloak
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Thanks again for help and sorry to be a pain .

In saying that, just had a look at Warcraft Logs and no warrior in the top 100 on any boss uses COrrosive and pretty much all of them are using Sac so that says a lot πŸ™‚

chrome plover
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yes because sacbrood is better

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no bother, dont apologise for asking questions

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it's fine!

summer quail
chrome plover
slow drift
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feels like there are times in m+ where it comes off cd but you have to hold to secure kicks or play mechanics whereas shard/khardros you can just send instantly

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maybe I just need to game and stop being a bitch

shut olive
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Is there ever a case where I want to use Bladestrom without recklessness/avatar, when they're both ready?
Extra 50 rage on reckless ness and Odyns fury on Avatar are talented too

shell jackal
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sims say weapon, maxroll says flame wreath HC from BRD is bis offhand hmmNod

fading sky
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take weapon dont look back

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flame is bad in any kind of aoe

shell jackal
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dont we run double crafted, too, tho

fading sky
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weap + bracer ye

crude gate
shell jackal
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oh okay

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cheers

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weapon it is xeos

gilded pawn
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is the weapon mythic track

shell jackal
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ye

slow drift
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crafted sword users xeos

chrome plover
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I still have no myth weapon critcake

shell jackal
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critcake soonβ„’

slim pollen
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I don't think we have seen a single 2h from first boss on mythic yet ._.

warm crag
silk matrix
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I come here humbly for the advice of my companions

Neck or khardros?

in neck I have bis HC and trinket I have queen mandatory HC and Ara kara HC

Sim says o mandatory and khardros o neck, what do you think?

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(I have both weapon myth)

warm crag
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probs take neck and go get a treacherous transmitter

slow drift
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If you're killing kyveza mythic each week I'd probably take neck and wait for transmitter

silk matrix
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thx guys!

sudden tusk
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neck is the hardest to get

silk matrix
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losing so much mastery hurts me xD

warm crag
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gaining a lot of dps shouldnt hurt

silk matrix
left nimbus
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anyone noticing raidbots not putting out reap of storm procs on slayer build?

warm crag
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yeah the super rare raid neck is better than a well statted neck

radiant plank
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One socket

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are u poor

silk matrix
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No no, obviously the neck is better, but I wouldn't know if it is a better option than a trinket

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but I appreciate your advice

radiant plank
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why wouldnt it be a better option over a bad trinket

silk matrix
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Okay okay, it's clear to me, thanks guys!

summer crater
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Still feel so weak compared to good ret paladins in mythic+

warm crag
potent thicket
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why does aoe feels so meh but st so good with fury?

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slayer

left nimbus
# warm crag wdym

well on dummie reap of the storm proc is like 3rd spell on dmg done, and if i sim the character reap of the storm proc dosent show up at all

warm crag
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can you link the sim

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its probably just merging reap the storm damage into bb/bt damage

summer crater
potent thicket
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;-;

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i tried thane but idk how to make it to proc thunder clap more times

summer quail
potent thicket
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yeah, key wise

left nimbus
summer quail
potent thicket
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I shall give it more tries, safe to say thane has a diff rotation than slayer and have to think how to proc thunder clap more

potent thicket
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Got none atm, in 7h when im done with work

unreal onyx
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Thane clap neuron activation

clever iron
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Thane more constant aoe fury burstss

last pier
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Ive hit pretty much same burst in thane + slayer on big enough packs ~12m is super doable in either spec. Feel like thane really isnt that far behind in burst

visual dagger
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guys... i'm gonna faction change from horde to ally so i can race change to Mecha... i dont have that allied race unlocked so i need to unlock it before i do my faction change? i never leveled an ally so i dunno...

radiant plank
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dont do it

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save yourself

visual dagger
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F

trail bane
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Does anyone know why my troll racial Berserking increases my haste by 13% instead of 10%?

desert cloud
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im at a dilemma

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is that cloak even good for any of the specs

trail bane
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sim it

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the special effect barely matters for fury

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its all about the stats

pulsar prawn
night relic
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Optimizing brood, are u guys bsing before webs

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Or holding after

forest owl
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whats up with ppala? i thought they got nerfed or had a bug or something that got fixed lol

fading sky
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Now they just cream bad dpsers

forest owl
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ah so just good dmg

fading sky
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Its overtunee ngl

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But it is what it is

fallen sedge
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Is it normal that I only have 6.1m health at 627? I feel like I have less than other classes

floral pond
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Prayge for a tree rework that lets us get the stam node.

fallen sedge
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Oh i gave up hope on having utility or a flexible class tree

eager thorn
gloomy loom
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Myth shoulders or myth polearm weapon crit mastery?

vale dove
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what uptime do you think is a reasonable amount for dawn/duskthread embelishment

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as I have two 639 Weapons, It seems that simming with double thread embelishment is better than Ascendance

pulsar prawn
gloomy loom
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But what u said is true

pulsar prawn
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or reclear and then choose

last sparrow
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you know if you leap the nova on queen, does it trigger the explosion if you are carrying the seed? i assume no

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p3 nova i mean

oblique trail
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It doesnt

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You can safely leap it

indigo mason
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Quick question: What does people usually sim for ST and AOE? I've been doing 1 target 5min for ST, and 5 targets 1min30sec for AOE. Is this still the best way?

oblique trail
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I just use 5 min 1 target patchwerk in m+ talents/trinkets

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And stick to that

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Stats don't really change from ST to AoE

indigo mason
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But trinkets etc might?

oblique trail
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Crit gains some slight value due to Gushing and Fierce Followthrough

oblique trail
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Simply just use common sense and experience to gauge what's good or bad

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I.e 1:30 min CD on use trinkets are by default really good, combined with a good passive trinket

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Such as Arakara

indigo mason
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Ive got Mark of khardros myth track in vault, equiped is sacbrood champion track and transmitter hero track. So i will run double on-use in m+ now?

oblique trail
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I really would never recommend that you use 2x on use except for specific raid fights

iron portal
oblique trail
iron portal
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: )

indigo mason
oblique trail
oblique trail
flat river
stone summit
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Yo, how can i sim just to see wich gem will be better ?

frozen tartan
indigo mason
torpid sand
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i should play rogue chatting

bronze elm
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I'm not entirely getting how I should be weighing my stats. Does mastery and haste trump everything? Sims are saying I should be stacking crit and versa over haste by now, but I'm seeing top fury warrs on logs with like 18k haste stacked, and I'm sitting at 14k

craggy river
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Sim gear u have against gear u get using top gear. Ignore stat weight every character is different

bronze elm
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yea I did and it still saying I should stack crit and versa over haste

radiant plank
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topgear shoulnd tell u to stack any stats

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it should tell u what gear to equip and gems to use

bronze elm
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ok but if I sim the same gear with master + haste or mastery + crit, it says the crit one is better

night relic
craggy river
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Then equip it and call it a day

radiant plank
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you dont have the exact same gear as other warriors who you are lookin up

bronze elm
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I guess, I was just wondering if I'm lacking some info those top parsing warriors know & the sim is minmaxing wrong at this high level

warm crag
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except for the 4:30 overlap whereu obvs prio treach

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unless boss dies in 0.1s

night relic
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mhm

warm crag
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or just loot a sacbrood and dont deal with this shit (real)

keen fulcrum
oblique trail
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And for bosses like Silken Court you'd just alternate Treach with Avatar, Mandate on non-Avatar damage amps

tribal rapids
radiant plank
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Sim it ST talents

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πŸ‘

oblique trail
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You are simming AoE talents, and also no monk buff for some reason

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And with a dragonflight flask?

tribal rapids
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oof, my bad (no monk buff because our raid has no monk), ah thanks let me adjust

radiant plank
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🎦

odd star
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so prob the monk buff + wrong flask thing

oblique trail
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Monk buff is a lot of damage on its own

thick fossil
# oblique trail

keks
At least we can see how the oops happened. Similar name and all.

tribal rapids
oblique trail
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1.372mill is pretty good for your ilvl

compact knot
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that isnt low

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huh

oblique trail
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For reference that's what I simmed pre-buffs roughly at 634

tribal rapids
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=S oh, gotcha. I have been basing off of warcraftlogs

compact knot
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let me check what i sim at 628 ilvl

tribal rapids
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im sure my method is suboptimal

oblique trail
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Atm I sim 1.5 mill at 635, which arguably is some of the best gear you can get

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Only missing Ansurek ring, and then ilvl upgrades on a few pieces

narrow narwhal
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Banezi goated with gear and pfp

compact knot
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1.4m at same ilvl, im using cheese weapon though that adds 20k dps

main halo
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WTF? πŸ˜„

compact knot
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hit it for 115m

thick fossil
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I only do M+, so it's been slow to get a couple pieces to mythic. Still rocking champion boots, and only recently picked up a hero transmitter and mythic weapon.

main halo
dusty rose
oblique trail
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no

main halo
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nah, i killed a sand scarab πŸ˜„

oblique trail
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He just hit a critter with old-expansion scaling

dusty rose
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lol

keen fulcrum
last sparrow
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had a champ ringworm or whatever the fuck its called until i crafted a ring

rotund ginkgo
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SIM ANGLE BOYS

gleaming siren
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that's just less than bare minimum at this point

radiant plank
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Keys give infinite hero track gear

last sparrow
flat river
rotund ginkgo
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i got ara 639 and transmitter hc

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so MIGHT not be mark angle

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but itd be nice to have mark for m+

thick fossil
frail trout
radiant plank
wheat storm
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for pvp whats better to put on ring hate/versa or mastery/versa ?

radiant plank
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if u didnt craft

frail trout
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Bad vault

rotund ginkgo
thick fossil
flat river
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HATE/vers obv

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U need more hate

red berry
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i finally got my 639 egg this week

oblique trail
frail trout
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Nice

red berry
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im 631 atm but i also haven't been raiding mythic

frail trout
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I'll be 634 after I upgrade my 2nd embellishment item this week but that's it

flat river
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Im 625 because im too lazy to farm crests

oblique trail
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Tbf even being right under 635 is really good rn

frail trout
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To be fair all my vaults were good except one, this weeks

flat river
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All of my vaults were good

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Until fury got buffed

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Then all bad

frail trout
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I still need boots, another ring, a myth track trinket and that's it

lost elbow
frail trout
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I'm praying for ovinax ring in vault tbh

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πŸ™

keen fulcrum
frail trout
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We just killed it last night

keen fulcrum
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Chaotic as hell but boy is it fun watching our dps explode.

flat river
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My guild is still for some reason stuck on rashan

radiant plank
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could explode more if u had minimum effort hero boots

frail trout
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I got a 96 parse on a prog kill LETSGOOO

keen fulcrum
thick fossil
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I'm 627 only pugged mythic raid once.

keen fulcrum
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I didn't parsed great last night. Think I parsed like s 60 on Ul, 67 on Blood, switched to arms for sikran. Fucking horrible idea.

thick fossil
radiant plank
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bwoah

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619 vs 619

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better stats win

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could be 626

thick fossil
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Or, I can hold out and craft 636 boots. Weapon, bracers came first. Than I dropped so.e into building a shield for off spec.

radiant plank
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did u craft 636 wrists

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horror

warm crag
thick fossil
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Yeah, bracers are the safe for all specs.

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At least for embellishment.

radiant plank
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im not talking about the slot

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Im talking the ilvl

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if u wasted 90 gilded for wrists

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horror

thick fossil
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Yes all my crafted stuff is 636

radiant plank
warm crag
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idk its reasonable if u got giga shafted by loot acquisition

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or u just dont raid mythic

radiant plank
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nahh

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you woulda just crafted

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off piece to 636

warm crag
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you'd have capped mythic crests like 3 weeks ago

radiant plank
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with embe

chrome plover
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what if i craft 2nd 636 2h this week

radiant plank
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wrist 636 is troll even if u dont raid imo

warm crag
chrome plover
warm crag
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noob

chrome plover
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it drops tomorrow right

oblique trail
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Because I was in this situation last week

radiant plank
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okay but last week

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vs week 3

rotund ginkgo
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walhe stfu

radiant plank
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sorry

radiant plank
oblique trail
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@tardy lark who would craft 636 wrists?

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Who would be so silly?

rotund ginkgo
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i would just to spite walhe

oblique trail
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Especially early in prog?

radiant plank
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i hate

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636 wrists

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i haate crafted gear

molten wing
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someone who is pretty noob i guess

chrome plover
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or someone who doesnt have access to much myth gear

oblique trail
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At least 636 wrists was more ilvl last week for me than a single upgrade on gloves πŸ‘

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Ilvl is what matters πŸ‘

molten wing
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i'm crafting 636 boots this week stuck with my 619 one keks

chrome plover
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number go up

molten wing
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and im not wasting 700k for the mythic boe ones

radiant plank
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Craafting baad

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embellishments boring

chrome plover
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+1

thick fossil
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Is there even decent wrists from mythic raid?

chrome plover
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i mean usually you wanna use 619 with writhing band

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until you have no more items to spend gilded on

thick fossil
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My server the BoE boots are about 680k I don't think I'd even bother spending half that on a piece of gear.

oblique trail
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Got reclear +75 gilded crests still to get

random raptor
night relic
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Neck and cloak

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And ring

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Disgusting

warm crag
radiant plank
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wrong ring i thikn

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that is boe ring

warm crag
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ye thats boe ring

oblique trail
night relic
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Ah

warm crag
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WTF!

random raptor
# oblique trail

I only have 30 crests left to get, that neck/cape really boosting you up hey hahaha

thick fossil
oblique trail
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I get Ansurek ring when we definitely for sure full reclear in 1 night (or in vualt next week)

warm crag
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Noob

oblique trail
night relic
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No ulgrax cuz it hasnt dropped? Or does it sim worse

oblique trail
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Ulgrax is the exact same stats basically, it also just hasn't dropped

chrome plover
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imagine if ulgrax dropped a weapon

oblique trail
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Took me 6 resets to get my first Myth weapon

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Quite deplorable but could be worse

night relic
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Got mine last week while having ulgrax in vault

chrome plover
humble plover
warm crag
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increase skill of looting weapons

oblique trail
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You took my skill from Amirdrassil!

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Grr!!

warm crag
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Wtf!

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at least i looted legendary when it was relevant!! (2 seconds after mythic fyrakk fell)

oblique trail
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I did as well! like a month before I killed Fyrakk

humble plover
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week 5 wicked

molten wing
humble plover
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actually took me longer to get a wep this season than the leggo

chrome plover
chrome plover
humble plover
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that was pretty common i think lol

chrome plover
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yeah probs

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but i never have the good weapon before I kill the last boss 😑

chrome plover
humble plover
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see that sucks

warm crag
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you're still reclearing or?

chrome plover
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we are

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killed kyveza last week

warm crag
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chilling

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you will get wep today

chrome plover
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tomorrow* surely πŸ™

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(dont raid weds)

warm crag
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no you will overtime

chrome plover
opal sapphire
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why is my haste crit ring all of a sudden randomly better than my haste mastery? did something happen?

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this is for multitarget, and for ST my haste vers is better than haste mastery

inner saffron
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crit is favoured in mt and you probably have alot of mastery

radiant plank
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Mayhaps you have talented into fierce followthrough too

woeful birch
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For me crit/mastery was always stronger this season in multitarget than haste/mastery

opal sapphire
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but i thought of all that too, however for singletarget suddenly it wants haste vers

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meh i prob just failed my sims somehow.

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or too much mastery I guess

queen linden
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Anybody have a WA for tracking bladestorm damage tickets?

warm crag
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why do you need that

rotund ginkgo
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endgame

velvet canopy
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Just run your own key (so someone can DC and brick it half way through)

rotund ginkgo
queen linden
rotund ginkgo
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its an ara13

warm crag
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yeah

queen linden
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Just want a brain dead bar to look at so I don't miss unhinged procs.

oblique trail
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Surely you aren't cancelaura'ing your BS?

queen linden
oblique trail
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Right

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So it's Ravager ticks, not BS

queen linden
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Yes

warm crag
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i don't understand how a bar that tracks bladestorm ticks will change your gameplay

queen linden
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ravager...

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Not BS

radiant plank
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bwoah

dire badge
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That’s brazy

queen linden
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Fuck, wrote BS out of habit.

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back to my hole I go.

queen linden
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How many of you swapped arms for princess prog?

rotund ginkgo
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we're based

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we're unbased

queen linden
rotund ginkgo
radiant plank
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not needed since dps check is fake + fury does prolly better ST in your fury optimized gear

forest ginkgo
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Love it

radiant plank
forest ginkgo
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Bro popped recklessness

rotund ginkgo
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insta kicked into "sry mate came on"

dire badge
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get warlock filtered

rotund ginkgo
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i came on ur mom

forest ginkgo
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Also got insta kicked

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for a mist +10

forest ginkgo
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Which is insane

dire badge
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sorry remembered brown is warrior don’t want that

rotund ginkgo
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bro eve nsaid

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"i was a warrior before, i feel ur pain"

covert void
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whjats our best spec on myth rash please? just got here finally

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spec / build

queen linden
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Slayer AOE imo.

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How many brown bars do you have in your group?

covert void
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3

queen linden
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lmao fuck

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go ST then

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Those adds are deleted before they spawn.

covert void
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well 3 including me ofc

radiant plank
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Tell the other two to spec arms

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and that you solo adds

rotund ginkgo
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@queen linden what typa shit advice is that

radiant plank
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:chadding

rotund ginkgo
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out-pad them

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be the better warrior

rotund ginkgo
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if u bend down to the other warr why are u even warr

radiant plank
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juts roll to ret at this point

rotund ginkgo
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if u lose the pad fight, come back stronger

covert void
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xD

rotund ginkgo
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beat them

queen linden
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Okay fine. Hear me out. cut their internet lines so you're the only brown bar.

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Then go full AOE and win

rotund ginkgo
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if u lose mentally u will lose period

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no thats worse

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thats not honorable

radiant plank
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if you have aggro on the adds

rotund ginkgo
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outpad them til they go ST

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u win

radiant plank
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start yelling for externals

rotund ginkgo
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if u die to melee u LITERALLY win

radiant plank
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and blame tnaks

rotund ginkgo
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these gen z warriors walhe

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im telling u

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no respect

radiant plank
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??

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im genz

radiant plank
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are u calling me older than I seem

rotund ginkgo
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I have been advised not to further elaborate.

radiant plank
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noo

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I wanted to be groomed by a dane : (

nimble ermine
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hm

queen linden
# covert void spec / build

Just use a basic Slayer AOE build. You could swap out Meat cleaver for a point in VC. Also, i'd look into CD timings.

radiant plank
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you spec

ivory ingot
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blast thane juice

radiant plank
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out of ww talents

ivory ingot
radiant plank
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and still win on add damage

queen linden
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In my mind, it helps. And that's all that matters ❀️

queen linden
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I also haven't done rash in weeks, so what do I know keks

oblique trail
ivory ingot
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nerf fury critcake

ivory ingot
ivory ingot
gloomy loom
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If I have 636 crafted weapon and I pick myth weapon from vault can I upgrade up to 636 w/o spending crests?

ivory ingot
granite locust
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hey, i just started going back to warrior and been mainly playing RA fury, i have a question regarding execute, I know its the lowest priorty out of everything except when you have 3 stacks, but if it procs from suddon death do you let it run out if you don't get to 2/3 stacks or do you just send it before the proc expires?

thin cliff
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(basically, don't waste stuff)

granite locust
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we dont play AJ in m+ i thought

thin cliff
granite locust
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ah i see, alright ty very much

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because i tried just not using them and that desynced imminent demise i would have 3 stacks and not get an execute so i was wondering if that was worth it

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but i guess just don't waste the proc

thin cliff
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yeah things get lined up weird sometimes on trash. If I'm running slayer for a key I try not to waste potential bladestorm reductions by letting things die with marks on them

coral jewel
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probably take trinket?

granite locust
chrome plover
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it's good

coral jewel
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gonna sim it thought but idk how trinket will be measured

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when simming do I put in 639 lvl? or the one in vault? does it matter?

oblique trail
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Always sim stuff from the vault at its max potential

coral jewel
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aight

last sparrow
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another night of being forced to play prot :( had to tank rash prog on sunday but atleast we killed it

neat gazelle
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Who’s got the meta raid single target build

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Cause boy am I struggling

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And don’t say wow head cause I used wow head and boy oh boy is it dog water

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Critcake the YouTuber?

mossy fox
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for full ST like sikran and kyveza, it's the wowhead raid ST slayer build

neat gazelle
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Crit I took your m+ MT build now I’m pumping

eternal sundial
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Ngl

neat gazelle
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No shit lol

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I suck at this game

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Trying to pump!

eternal sundial
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Then i wouldnt call talents shit

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But ask for help, Post a log etc

neat gazelle
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Oh I’m asking for help

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Matter of fact

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Anyone willing to jump on a 5min discord call with me to explain I’ll pay that’s how desperate I am πŸ˜‚

radiant plank
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post your logs

eternal sundial
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Dont pay for shit ppl would do for free keks

radiant plank
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someone will tell u how to improve for free

eternal sundial
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Also if ur able to explain what ur doing and why

radiant plank
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99% of the time answer is gonna be read guide and hit dummies

neat gazelle
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Tbh and I’m no longer trolling is I don’t even know how to post logs. Haven’t played in awhile. Just got back. Ilvl 611. I do fine mythic + but ST I got embarrassed

eternal sundial
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We can figure out if you are tripping yourself up somewhere

radiant plank
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which will work

neat gazelle
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Logs like from Warcraft logs?

radiant plank
# neat gazelle Tbh and I’m no longer trolling is I don’t even know how to post logs. Haven’t pl...

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warm crag
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de.warcraftlogs

radiant plank
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thank you @subtle goblet

modest condor
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de

fickle bluff
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de. πŸ’€

neat gazelle
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Standby

chrome plover
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thank you @subtle goblet

heavy dock
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Who this hrothmar guy

radiant plank
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He is Hrothmar

heavy dock
neat gazelle
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this?

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@radiant plank @eternal sundial

burnt crow
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haven't been able to win a mythic 2 hander or get lucky in my vault should i just craft a second any thoughts?

eternal sundial
neat gazelle
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ok so on a scale to 1-10 how dog shit am i

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lol

eternal sundial
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Damage breakdown is useful but we can do better

eternal sundial
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I cant really look at it on phone but im sure someone will in a bit

knotty lotus
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it looks like you're favoring BB/BT a lot more than CB/RB

frozen tartan
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Fucking finally a myth track weapon!

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And not even just any weapon.

neat gazelle
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if there up there being pressed ha

eternal sundial
knotty lotus
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you used a proc'd execute in your opener before hitting bladestorm, that's super out of order

eternal sundial
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The main things u check for with that build is
Did i spend my crushing blow, bloodbath
Did i use sudden death before it runs out, before ashen juggernaut runs out or when i had 3 stacks of marked for exe

neat gazelle
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thats me when i press buttons

eternal sundial
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Then you check if ur still enraged, if ur not and can Rampage you Rampage

knotty lotus
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you have a couple gaps in enrage uptime during CDs

neat gazelle
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are there any good addons I can download that will help with this?

eternal sundial
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If you are enraged you can press rb until ur at line 100 ish rage

eternal sundial
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Or you get hekili which just tells you the right input as Training wheels

neat gazelle
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my buddy told me hekili sucks

eternal sundial
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IMO the former makes you the better Player than the latter

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Hekili is not ideal for being good at the game

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It can help with getting better at a class

timid forge
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hekili will get u consistent purple parses but if u want to climb higher learn to ride ur bike without the addon

neat gazelle
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i guess i need to figure out where to see when those marked for exe etc are at before i cast spells

queen tapir
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there is no reason to use hekili on fury

heavy flax
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just from a quick look, your cpm seems a bit low, might just have to smash your keys harder

vapid tiger
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Anyone seen 2 mythic weapons outsim the standard mythic wpn + crafted for the embellishement?

timid forge
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theres not tbh, just press the button thats glowing

neat gazelle
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@heavy flax i hate to admit it but im a clicker lol. i did just buy a noga mouse that came in today!

queen tapir
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anyways it looks like he is prioing bt / bb

knotty lotus
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then you have no hope. just live with your bad damage

molten spire
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What to press optimizations only make sense if you are pressing often enough

normal bane
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i see very few logs using mandate on st fights like nexus princess, is it just not great or do not many ppl have it? its just heroic transmitters or 626 khadros

neat gazelle
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@knotty lotus I will

heavy dock
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5th week in a row of no trinket/wep

eternal sundial
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I mean try keybind say 1234 and maybe r or f

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And go from there slowly

nimble ermine
eternal sundial
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Defo kb Rampage bloodthirst raging blow execute

heavy flax
heavy dock
nimble ermine
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unlucky

heavy dock
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might aswell be crafting 636 off hander this week xd

nimble ermine
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im fighting through hell to get a hc transmitter

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(it didnt drop this week either)

queen tapir
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try getting into a mythic pug raid

heavy dock
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now to log on my tank to get 2 myth trinkets and myth shield

queen tapir
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our bis weapon is in the first boss anyways

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kill that boss and leave

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its what I am trying to do as well atp

heavy dock
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........

kindred hearth
heavy dock
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really

kindred hearth
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its super awesome

heavy dock
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i get skarmorak on my tank alt

chrome plover
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being enraged is 100% the most important part of fury warrior and you should have close to 100% uptime

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or ideally 100%

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with correct play it will never drop, just press rampage more and stop pressing raging blow/bloodthirst when you are above 100 rage, press rampage instead

neat gazelle
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so even when enraged keep slamming enraged?

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whats the "rotation" if im enraged?

heavy dock
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well mr robot telling me to just grab the myth chest over transmiter

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ig

chrome plover
young fern
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I personally hate transmitter, way too many BS things to try to do during pulls. Sacbrood and mastery on use trinket my goto (GB or SV)

neat gazelle
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isnt that telling me to press cb and bb and all that alot?

chrome plover
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basically always send crushing blow, and if you're still below 100 rage you should send bloodbath and raging blows, but as soon as you are above 100 rage press rampage to dump it

chrome plover
neat gazelle
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ahh

heavy flax
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spend cb and bb every time you rampage basically but priority is keeping up enrage, so if it's gonna fall off, don't press raging blow or bloodthirst and prioritize rampage

chrome plover
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bloodthirst is fair enough from unhinged, bladestorm is also fair enough

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but raging blow should ideally have 0 waste

young fern
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Yah, general rotation I try to keep in mind, Rampage > Crushing blow, Blood bath. Lots of time you'll get back enough rage to ramage and do the two empowered attacks again.

neat gazelle
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so under 100 press bloodbath and raging blows then once that gives me above 100 spam rampage

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i neeed to be doing those 3 as much as possible then? rampage crushing and bb?

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this is a big help thanks guys

chrome plover
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if you have used your crushing blow charge and are above 100 rage always rampage

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yes

neat gazelle
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i may sound dumb but i promise im not.l.....

chrome plover
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it's okay we all learnt somewhere

eternal sundial
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Everyone starts at some point dw

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Ive seen worse (ppl with 1hs)

neat gazelle
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wow is just new to me again and so much fucking info lol

eternal sundial
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Ye fury is infinitely more complex than it usually is

young fern
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Only way you sound dumb is if you tried to tell us your spamming was the better play πŸ˜„ Outside of that, you're asking for help, you dont sound dumb. I personally can't always learn from the wowhead guides and having someone say it makes more sense to me. You're not alone buddy πŸ˜„

eternal sundial
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Rn

oblique trail
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I'd almost say that S3 DF was more complex than current Fury by far

neat gazelle
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rampage, crushing blow, blood bath.. rinse repeat

oblique trail
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Especially after all the buffs/nerfs which simplified our rotation more

coarse nest
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Really?

chrome plover
neat gazelle
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then CD's when available

coarse nest
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I thought DF s3 was very basic in comparison

eternal sundial
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But i also did big fuck dam back then cuz of week 3 lego

chrome plover
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tbh he didn’t say it was bad just more complicated

eternal sundial
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I was rewarching my old S3 kills

oblique trail
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I think you could mess up your damage a lot more easily back in S3 than you can now

eternal sundial
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So cool to look back at

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I mean ye

neat gazelle
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@chrome plover whats your opinion on hekili?

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stupid?

eternal sundial
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CDs mattering does let u grief a lot

oblique trail
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If you compared start of S1 TWW Fury though then I'd prob say they were equal

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But the buffs kinda made the weird conditionals if you cared for them irrelevant

neat gazelle
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so just hit a rotation on dummy. Rampge, Crushing blow and bloodbath. I noticed the crushing blow has 2 charges it looks like? Do i always use it 2x? so rampage, crushing x2 then bb?

young fern
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Are people playing more of the thunderstrike verison in M+ now? I've been playing it awhile and really do like more consistent aoe

oblique trail
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The 2 charges is shared for Raging Blow/Crushing Blow as a whole

neat gazelle
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oh ok. so if i have 2 charges, the first is crushing then the last is raging?

eternal sundial
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Yea

oblique trail
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Correct

neat gazelle
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ok so basically fuck the last charge lol

timid elm
# neat gazelle are there any good addons I can download that will help with this?

Finding a good weak aura that shows you your enrage uptime, rage bar, and important abilities is incredibly helpful. Luckily Fury has a very easy priority list for it's rotation and CD usage. Getting some jewelry with mastery might be beneficial for you, but honestly Raidbots will be your best friend! Using a droptimizer sim to see where your biggest upgrades are is incredibly helpful. As an example you can run a droptimizer sim for Patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes, and you can see how big of an upgrade certain items will be for you. ST feels a little bit overwhelming with all the different procs and how much rage you generate during CDs but if you're following the priority list you should be good to rock and roll while you inevitably find replacements for gear that'd be more optimized for your character.

Weak Auras are really great for tracking different buffs and abilities, so you can manage your CDs a little better. In aoe tracking meat cleaver stacks is so helpful.

young fern
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No no, you end up using both charges if you rampage, crushing, blood bath.

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You should always use both empowered charges per rampage press from my understanding

neat gazelle
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ok so then do use crushing/raging before clicking blood bath

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my man chawie is chiming in lets see

chrome plover
heavy flax
neat gazelle
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thanks gene

eternal sundial
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And now log some other fight after youve practiced a bit

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And we can assess the improvement

neat gazelle
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ill act like raging and bloodthirst dont even exsist

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are there logs on dummies? lol

heavy flax
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def get a weakaura that shows you how much time you have left on enrage

chrome plover
eternal sundial
chrome plover
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but you can effectively see them as a tool to get to your next rampage

forest ginkgo
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Where can i find AM m+ thane build?

neat gazelle
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got it so if i find myself in a position when rampage isnt available, thats a good sign to click on those @chawie to get rampage back up

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got it

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ok let me fuck some dummies up BRB

eternal sundial
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Also keybind stuff :P

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At least rb bt and Rampage

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Execute if ur feeling fancy

neat gazelle
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better? lol

eternal sundial
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Looks better but also send a log right

subtle goblet
neat gazelle
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@eternal sundial where do i find logs for this details?

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for the dummy?

formal stump
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I have a macro for my skills. Its not optimal, but at ilvl 609 its gets me around 800k+ dps on single target with Mountain Thane

neat gazelle
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nice altreu

eternal sundial
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It goes over how to get those

neat gazelle
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oh let me look and ill send

formal stump
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Is there a haste cap? Like where at some point it doesnt do anything?

keen kindle
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100% should be haste cap

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But...that is obviously unobtainable

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But yeah, sims are just more accurate then old "stat caps" are

formal stump
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Yeah, im just relearning Fury. Been back for lil over a month and i stopped playing during Pandaria.
Back then we still had hit and expertise and those had a cap before it was just a wasted stat.

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Wasnt sure if haste had the same thing going on.

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Crit was also a big thing back then but I see some get 1mil dps with less then 20% crit

restive peak
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Don't ever stress stats, esp when gearing; ilvl is king, you'll settle into simming etc once you've reached a decent base on gear and have options

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If you're below like 625ish ilvl, you have tons of crests to farm and gear to still get, then you can start learning to sim it all, and the robot will tell you what to do

nocturne dragon
warm crag
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too many bs things to do (jump 3 times or move slightly to the front right) holy moly

formal stump
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I will say I wish I had this one button macro thing back then. So far its saved my ass countless times. I can just focus the screen.

dry talon
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is it possible to sim what stat is best for you ?

warm crag
formal stump
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Anyone have a good link to a video that can explain how simming works and how to use it?

warm crag
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stick to top gear or in this case droptimizer sims to figure out what gear you need

dry talon
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well im going to craft wrists

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but idk what stats should i take

eternal sundial
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Droptimizer can do crafted items

dry talon
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i think

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oh ok ty

eternal sundial
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But generally go hast mast

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Cant rlly go wrong with that esp if the char isnt bazillion ilvl

dry talon
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im like 30 haste 42 mastery

oblique trail
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Just go to top gear and use that

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Easier to do compare many crafted items at once with different stats

warm crag
oblique trail
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woke nonsense

warm crag
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utter

formal stump
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I could use more haste. Im sitting on 22% haste but my Mastery with flask is 46%

eternal sundial
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Dont matter

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Sim

formal stump
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I tried using the sim thing. I dont really understand it.

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Havnt found a decent guide

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And I dont want to pay to use that site if thats whats making it weird for me.

gaunt moat
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Well guys it's been a kinda fun xpac beginning as always

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See y'all in s2

neat gazelle
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youre not going anywhere

lost bison
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we take those

oblique trail
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nice wrists bro

nocturne dragon
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ring time I think

open coyote
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Is it good to use 2x authoity of radiant power on the weapons? or do they not stack?

nocturne dragon
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I think it stack

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just like the old haste enchant from dragonflight, once proc the value is doubled.

open coyote
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do you think radiant power is better btw? for raiding, or authority of the depths?

warm crag
oblique trail
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It simply doubles the effect, strength and damage

open coyote
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I only play fury for raiding

nocturne dragon
open coyote
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I play prot for M+

oblique trail
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Then go 2x Depths

open coyote
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okay cheers ill grb depths

nocturne dragon
oblique trail
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It does not matter enough to warrant swapping (unless you genuinely have millions of gold you don't care about wasting)

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Depths is still good in M+ for prio/boss damage

astral path
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have you guys ever had bugs where your rampage didnt give you CB and RB stacks?

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and sometimes the CB and RB dont get consumed on use

oblique trail
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Did you get parried? If so yes Rampage wont give you neither CB, nor any more charges

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And if your CB gets parried, it wont consume the CB either

astral path
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possibly

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usually happens in raid

oblique trail
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You very likely just got parried then

astral path
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parried in 2024 sadge

nimble ermine
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parry is such a good mechanic

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im glad it still exists

astral path
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i love red mogs

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we up

frank harbor
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is the Wings of Shattered Sorrow good for us ?

oblique trail
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Yes

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Though I would not worry too much about it unless you get it on Myth track, if it means you got a choice between a HC Wings or a myth track item

neat gazelle
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god bless america god bless our troops and god bless this discord for helping me with my rotation

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enjoy your days

heavy dock
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how much worse is radiant power over depths?

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im guessing on st its much worse but aoe its over

oblique trail
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Not much worse, been a while since I simmed but it's roughly 2%~ in favour of either one going from ST to AoE

modest condor
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taking both st and aoe into account radiant power wasnt even my best choice for enchant

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im running 1x mastery 1x vers right now

worldly lily
oblique trail
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For pure ST it's your best offhand, but there are only 2 bosses in the entire raid where this'd be relevant

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If you get it, great, but not something I'd go out of my way to get

errant vessel
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how much of a % diff is it on ST?

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(I know it changes from person to person, but approx)

oblique trail
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From other people's sims, about 0.7%-1% ish

errant vessel
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okay that's actually a decent amount

worldly lily
oblique trail
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On myth track

errant vessel
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is that swapping out mythic ulgrax wep or changing to lining?

modest condor
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depends on your gear and what secondaries you need

worldly lily
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got it, thanks

oblique trail
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The technical best weapon is the Wild Hammer (which is only in context to have the rest of the technical best gear), but it all depends on the rest of your gear as Silm said

oblique trail
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I haven't really cared enough to dive into it since it's such a small increase on only 2 bosses

gloomy loom
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Weapon or shoulders? Can’t decide πŸ₯²

random raptor
nocturne dragon
gloomy loom
nocturne dragon
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iLvl more important

warm crag
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stats on weapon barely matters

fiery helm
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dear fury warriors of skyhold. I am confused and baffled why is the sim's bladestorm does 2x the damage vs my dummy test? Both image has 3 bladestrom cast. Please help...

warm crag
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you can maybe care abt it week 25 of the season where you're literally full bis

heavy stag
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Tier chest or cloak? πŸ€”

novel perch
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chest

worldly lily
weary sail
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You can craft cloak

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Cant craft tier chest

fickle bluff
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because bladestorm damage in simc includes everything from unhinged

stuck bison
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does anyone have flask sim strings please ?

sly crane
frank rover
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lmfao

formal stump
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Used to fury tank group finder heroics and raids back in Panda. Doesnt seem to be a thing anymore.
Did a normal dungeon yesterday and they still hit like trucks

odd star
sinful spoke
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the thunderfury consumable item doesnt stack

thick fossil
warm crag
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lorem ipsum

thick fossil
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No, it's not my name.

restive peak
warm crag
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trying

open coyote
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Is it possible to check what talents people are running for the raid? I currently have a single target page and then one for anything larger than 1 and even then I think they may be outdated. Any good sources?

warm crag
warm crag
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what do you mean

coarse nest
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Just proc it more

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Duhhh

gloomy loom
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slayer or thane, wich is the best actually? cause ive seen many on murlok come back to slayers

bitter palm
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on logs

raw bone
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guys did blizz do something to skarmorak trinket? i just did a run where every time it desync'd from my cds

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it had like 5-7s more cd

hard widget
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Its the affix

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Affix = cdr = desync from cd's

silk wharf
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Yea, its lame

raw bone
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oh fuck right

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ok so the solution is to not hit the affix, got it

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seriously now, is it better to hold the CDs for the trinket or just use them as they come?

rigid stirrup
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Depends on the timing it shouldn't be that far off from trinket coming up

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But in a season where on use trinkets are king rn I'm surprises they didn't add cdr to them as well w the affix

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At the key levels it's at it isn't game breaking but it is annoying af

oblique trail
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Fury is now no longer unkillable

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We are now killable

junior gale
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The West has fallen

clever belfry
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the visage has fallen

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(banezi joke)

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(stolen)

oblique trail
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fuck!!

clever belfry
#

20

oblique trail
#

It would be funny if 8 of those 20 mutual servers were dedicated entirely for the storage of soundboards, of one particular streamer who's known for playing an often disliked spec

eternal sundial
clever belfry
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FWR

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maybe we do it

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this raid

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thoughts

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wait its gonn b heal on ansurek no

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cause of disps p2

oblique trail
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hate healer mechanics

warm crag
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sacrifice a guy per platform or

clever belfry
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doesnt it explode

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when u 7

sinful kiln
valid raptor
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Guys i have a question, why are almost all the warriors play Spear Of Bastion, it doesnt seem to work for me. I use DR instead

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Do i need to change stats to more Crit?

warm crag
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so u sac a guy so it booms early

nocturne dragon
sly crane
#

yes

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tanking is not fun right now

nocturne dragon
#

weird guy you dodge a bullet

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you should've reply "I Apply with DPS icon, why would you think I am tanking?"

quartz pumice
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@golden hare why you trash

modest condor
#

is that eternal palace?

clever belfry
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where it double booms during the wrest

warm crag
#

then have a guy jump off on that side noobv

quartz pumice
thick fossil
#

Gotta farm up that Ink pod. Lol

smoky vale
jovial coral
#

ye

unreal onyx
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do I take ulgrax belt or socket from vault hmmmmmmmmm

lament lagoon
#

Can a fellow zugger point me to the Spell reflect WA pls

unreal onyx
lament lagoon
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Thanks papi

hardy shuttle
lament lagoon
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Need quick tip, should i macro my stances to lik spell reclet/ rampage

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or sum like that

keen kindle
#

There's no reason to do that

smoky vale
keen kindle
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Also there's a chance that if you macro it to ramapage you could cancel zerker

lament lagoon
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to switch back and forth

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okok

keen kindle
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Yes

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There's one in the pins from DF that still works

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use that

lament lagoon
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gotcha, thanks betrayer

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im glad u betrayed those blue boys

opaque valley
#

just got treacherous transmitter, how am i using it at the start of a pull?

warm crag
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~5-10s before pull

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colelct tasks spawn in your front right

clever belfry
#

collect deez

covert blaze
#

holy

smoky vale
#

hi zhai

astral path
#

so sad

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never made it past first miniboss AK 12

smoky vale
#

your brew does zdps

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or did

astral path
#

true and real

oblique trail
oblique trail
#

please cease

smoky vale
clever belfry
oblique trail
#

so am I (I ran out of ice cream and hot chocolate gg)

keen kindle
#

You ruined my life

clever belfry
#

did i

keen kindle
#

yep

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Depression must die

smoky vale
#

real

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anda

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you are going to blow up

compact siren
#

@clever belfry hosen check

clever belfry
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hosen on

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cause its cold

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i gotta call me landlord cause radiator cold 🧊

warm crag
young swan
#

so says the shade of xavius

clever belfry
#

silence worm

eternal sundial
#

πŸ€”

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brood rekills

oblique trail
#

Me when I forget to turn off BW /say

eternal sundial
#

he doesnt have it on

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its just freaking out idk

unreal onyx
#

I finally got transmitter

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(only heroic)

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((but with avoidance))

smoky vale
#

huge

unreal onyx
#

can't wait having to play minigames in a minigame

turbid abyss
#

did anyone have massive action delay/lag on ovinax today on EU servers?

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my whole raid have this problem currently

smoky vale
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i had yesterday on na

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we also reset the instance

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0 diff

turbid abyss
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so what did you do? gave up?

smoky vale
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yeah raid was ending anyways

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0 clue on what to do

astral path
#

2 chest AK 12 Drums lust gameplay

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big money moves

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thunderous drums op

smoky vale
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i know the ww i think

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hes a turbo blaster dk player

turbid abyss
#

yeah we called the raid 1hr early

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unplayable

eternal sundial
#

laggy or what

smoky vale
#

turbo

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im pretty sure if i check my vod

turbid abyss
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parasites when they spawn they dont cause FPS issue anymore, but there is like 1-2s input delay

smoky vale
#

my actions were 5 seconds behind

turbid abyss
#

like 7s bladestorm kekw

gloomy loom
#

guys slayer or thane in m+ right now for best dps eoverall?

gloomy loom
smoky vale
#

you asked

past pivot
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Thayler RAAM

turbid abyss
#

Thlayner?

coral jewel
#

wish we could transmog fist weaposn on 2hands 😦

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these look sick πŸ˜„

restive peak
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Try all 4 various builds and see what you enjoy and resonates with you best and slam it

unreal onyx
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634.94 gaming

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635 this week with 2 more upgrades I can put on the trinket

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or belt

restive peak
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Bro this not reclearing thing is such dogwater I’m at 634, 4 sockets deep from vaults -.-

somber elk
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I just got 636, Not a Single Bad vault

unreal onyx
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I already am 635 with the 629 ring in my bag

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I saved myself with the ulgrax belt today