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ok makes sense bud.
I am just finding it odd that for burst it is just so low. I am wondering if its because Corrosive has such high base strength
no, it's because the corrosive organ has all of it's power in 20 seconds of uptime
every 2 minutes
Does anyone know if skarmorak shard beats out transmitter in m+ where the passive is up constantly?
or do people just prefer it for the fire-and-forget nature of shard
Thanks again for help and sorry to be a pain .
In saying that, just had a look at Warcraft Logs and no warrior in the top 100 on any boss uses COrrosive and pretty much all of them are using Sac so that says a lot π
yes because sacbrood is better
no bother, dont apologise for asking questions
it's fine!
doubt it, transmitter is just so goddamn strong
if you use transmitter well (not that hard) im pretty sure it will always win
feels like there are times in m+ where it comes off cd but you have to hold to secure kicks or play mechanics whereas shard/khardros you can just send instantly
maybe I just need to game and stop being a bitch
Is there ever a case where I want to use Bladestrom without recklessness/avatar, when they're both ready?
Extra 50 rage on reckless ness and Odyns fury on Avatar are talented too
sims say weapon, maxroll says flame wreath HC from BRD is bis offhand 
dont we run double crafted, too, tho
weap + bracer ye
not if you have a 639
is the weapon mythic track
ye
crafted sword users 
flame wrath only on pure single target
I still have no myth weapon 
soonβ’
I don't think we have seen a single 2h from first boss on mythic yet ._.
it is bis for some characters for ST only of which there is exactly one fight of that style that is somewhat difficult
I come here humbly for the advice of my companions
Neck or khardros?
in neck I have bis HC and trinket I have queen mandatory HC and Ara kara HC
Sim says o mandatory and khardros o neck, what do you think?
(I have both weapon myth)
probs take neck and go get a treacherous transmitter
If you're killing kyveza mythic each week I'd probably take neck and wait for transmitter
thx guys!
neck is the hardest to get
losing so much mastery hurts me xD
gaining a lot of dps shouldnt hurt
anyone noticing raidbots not putting out reap of storm procs on slayer build?
yeah the super rare raid neck is better than a well statted neck
wdym
No no, obviously the neck is better, but I wouldn't know if it is a better option than a trinket
but I appreciate your advice
Okay okay, it's clear to me, thanks guys!
Still feel so weak compared to good ret paladins in mythic+
wouldnt call mark bad
well on dummie reap of the storm proc is like 3rd spell on dmg done, and if i sim the character reap of the storm proc dosent show up at all
can you link the sim
its probably just merging reap the storm damage into bb/bt damage
Because the sustained is really poor compared to both thane and other specs
in keys i assume? coz things will live our burst and our st is very good in keys
yeah, key wise
second
our consistent aoe feels way better as thane. tbf i think fury just feels better as thane in general(but that's subjective)
I shall give it more tries, safe to say thane has a diff rotation than slayer and have to think how to proc thunder clap more
link a log of a key
Got none atm, in 7h when im done with work
Slayer burst fuck fun
Thane clap neuron activation
Thane more constant aoe fury burstss
Ive hit pretty much same burst in thane + slayer on big enough packs ~12m is super doable in either spec. Feel like thane really isnt that far behind in burst
guys... i'm gonna faction change from horde to ally so i can race change to Mecha... i dont have that allied race unlocked so i need to unlock it before i do my faction change? i never leveled an ally so i dunno...
yeah, gotta unlock it iirc
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Does anyone know why my troll racial Berserking increases my haste by 13% instead of 10%?
bis for arms and prot ... minor dmg loss for fury vs mastery cloak.
but you save 75 crests (nearly 1 id of upgrades)
so take cloak EZ ^^
you will get endless tier set options again + they drop anyway in raid on same ilvl or higher
whats up with ppala? i thought they got nerfed or had a bug or something that got fixed lol
Bug made.them do above dps dmg
Now they just cream bad dpsers
ah so just good dmg
Is it normal that I only have 6.1m health at 627? I feel like I have less than other classes
Prayge for a tree rework that lets us get the stam node.
Oh i gave up hope on having utility or a flexible class tree
If ur playing thane take the iv talent > the physical dr one
Myth shoulders or myth polearm weapon crit mastery?
what uptime do you think is a reasonable amount for dawn/duskthread embelishment
as I have two 639 Weapons, It seems that simming with double thread embelishment is better than Ascendance
first 4 bosses drop 2 shoulders + m+ vault
first 4 bosses drop 1 trash stat weapon
sounds like weapon to me ^^ esp when u have heroic weap
Oh i was oriented to pick the shoulders cause are bis
But what u said is true
or reclear and then choose
you know if you leap the nova on queen, does it trigger the explosion if you are carrying the seed? i assume no
p3 nova i mean
Quick question: What does people usually sim for ST and AOE? I've been doing 1 target 5min for ST, and 5 targets 1min30sec for AOE. Is this still the best way?
I just use 5 min 1 target patchwerk in m+ talents/trinkets
And stick to that
Stats don't really change from ST to AoE
But trinkets etc might?
Crit gains some slight value due to Gushing and Fierce Followthrough
You dont sim for m+ trinkets
Simply just use common sense and experience to gauge what's good or bad
I.e 1:30 min CD on use trinkets are by default really good, combined with a good passive trinket
Such as Arakara
Ive got Mark of khardros myth track in vault, equiped is sacbrood champion track and transmitter hero track. So i will run double on-use in m+ now?
I really would never recommend that you use 2x on use except for specific raid fights
apologies but did you mean ara ara?

: )
ara ara, my deepest apologies
That would be ovinax mythic?
I would always use a hero Transmitter over Myth mark/Shard myself, but if you really prefer the QoL and somewhat loss of damage (not hundreds of thousands realistically), you can use either Mark or Shard instead
Most fights really, though most fights would be Mandate as the 2nd on use, but yes Ovinax specifically with 2x stat on use
UwU
Yo, how can i sim just to see wich gem will be better ?
Choose your gems and Check the "replace enchantments" checkbox above all enchants in Top Gear.
ty bro
I do not have the shard. 619 sacbrd, 626 mitter and 639 mark. I should use whatever sims best on 1 target 5mins for M+ aswell? I do not care about CoL
i should play rogue 
I'm not entirely getting how I should be weighing my stats. Does mastery and haste trump everything? Sims are saying I should be stacking crit and versa over haste by now, but I'm seeing top fury warrs on logs with like 18k haste stacked, and I'm sitting at 14k
Sim gear u have against gear u get using top gear. Ignore stat weight every character is different
yea I did and it still saying I should stack crit and versa over haste
topgear shoulnd tell u to stack any stats
it should tell u what gear to equip and gems to use
ok but if I sim the same gear with master + haste or mastery + crit, it says the crit one is better
whats the playstyle on that, transmitter on burst pull and mandate whenever off cd
Then equip it and call it a day
okay then its better for u
you dont have the exact same gear as other warriors who you are lookin up
I guess, I was just wondering if I'm lacking some info those top parsing warriors know & the sim is minmaxing wrong at this high level
ye
except for the 4:30 overlap whereu obvs prio treach
unless boss dies in 0.1s
mhm
or just loot a sacbrood and dont deal with this shit (real)
What i would give for a Sacbrood...
What Spongie said, though there's a slight case to be made on a boss like Rashanan where you want to Mandate on pull, then use Treach/CDs 20 sec in since that's when adds spawn
And for bosses like Silken Court you'd just alternate Treach with Avatar, Mandate on non-Avatar damage amps
I feel like I am missing something... when I lookk at critcake's sims from earlier this patch, his simmed dps is at like 1.3mill with a 620 ilvl... I am sitting with a 627 ilvl and my sims are only giving 1.17m dps... I know my gear isnt optimal, but I should be at or slightly more than a toon at 620...unless my stats are jacked up?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nqyMfjtiPikGaEGmj5XqxM
You are simming AoE talents, and also no monk buff for some reason
And with a dragonflight flask?
oof, my bad (no monk buff because our raid has no monk), ah thanks let me adjust
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im ilvl 618 and im pretty sure i sim higher than that on aoe talents
so prob the monk buff + wrong flask thing
Monk buff is a lot of damage on its own

At least we can see how the oops happened. Similar name and all.
ok, fair catch. monk buff does change quite a bit with flask fix... still feels a little low.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mzrUGQ6gGV5dmSrz7gPoWU
1.372mill is pretty good for your ilvl
For reference that's what I simmed pre-buffs roughly at 634
=S oh, gotcha. I have been basing off of warcraftlogs
let me check what i sim at 628 ilvl
im sure my method is suboptimal
Atm I sim 1.5 mill at 635, which arguably is some of the best gear you can get
Only missing Ansurek ring, and then ilvl upgrades on a few pieces
Banezi goated with gear and pfp
WTF? π
I only do M+, so it's been slow to get a couple pieces to mythic. Still rocking champion boots, and only recently picked up a hero transmitter and mythic weapon.
oooh, it makes sense hahaha i was thinkg to push a +16 solo xD
New bug ?
no
nah, i killed a sand scarab π
He just hit a critter with old-expansion scaling
lol
I mythic raid and I still have champ boots. It's okay, lol.
had a champ ringworm or whatever the fuck its called until i crafted a ring
??
that's just less than bare minimum at this point
Keys give infinite hero track gear
marks looking juicy
i got ara 639 and transmitter hc
so MIGHT not be mark angle
but itd be nice to have mark for m+
And none of the boots from m+ are worth a damn.
I did not get to join the 635 club this week 
Better than champ track
for pvp whats better to put on ring hate/versa or mastery/versa ?
if u didnt craft
Bad vault
maybe ask at #pvp ? probably mast vers
I didn't craft yet. That will be last resort.
i finally got my 639 egg this week
Got Curio from Ansurekussy kill which brought me over 635
Nice
im 631 atm but i also haven't been raiding mythic
I'll be 634 after I upgrade my 2nd embellishment item this week but that's it
Im 625 because im too lazy to farm crests
Tbf even being right under 635 is really good rn
To be fair all my vaults were good except one, this weeks
I still need boots, another ring, a myth track trinket and that's it

I literally just haven't seen a pair of boots. It's next on my crafting list.
We just killed it last night
Nice! We just started real progress on it last night.
Chaotic as hell but boy is it fun watching our dps explode.
My guild is still for some reason stuck on rashan
I got a 96 parse on a prog kill 
You sonofabitchπ
I'm 627 only pugged mythic raid once.
I didn't parsed great last night. Think I parsed like s 60 on Ul, 67 on Blood, switched to arms for sikran. Fucking horrible idea.
based
My champ boots sim better than hero boots. 619 cap till I get more crests.
Or, I can hold out and craft 636 boots. Weapon, bracers came first. Than I dropped so.e into building a shield for off spec.
i will craft that this week..
im not talking about the slot
Im talking the ilvl
if u wasted 90 gilded for wrists
horror
Yes all my crafted stuff is 636
Mee too
idk its reasonable if u got giga shafted by loot acquisition
or u just dont raid mythic
you'd have capped mythic crests like 3 weeks ago
with embe
what if i craft 2nd 636 2h this week
wrist 636 is troll even if u dont raid imo
if u dont do any mythic raid at all ever its kind of fine
i killed ulgrax mythic every week and had +10 vault slots every week

noob
it drops tomorrow right
Wat do if I had literally no piece to upgrade then except craft wrists
Because I was in this situation last week
walhe stfu
sorry

i would just to spite walhe
Especially early in prog?
someone who is pretty noob i guess
or someone who doesnt have access to much myth gear
At least 636 wrists was more ilvl last week for me than a single upgrade on gloves π
Ilvl is what matters π
i'm crafting 636 boots this week stuck with my 619 one 
number go up
and im not wasting 700k for the mythic boe ones
+1
Is there even decent wrists from mythic raid?
i mean usually you wanna use 619 with writhing band
until you have no more items to spend gilded on
what's the ilvl at now banezi
My server the BoE boots are about 680k I don't think I'd even bother spending half that on a piece of gear.
Got reclear +75 gilded crests still to get
you're cracked
famed slayer of noobers
ye thats boe ring
Famed Hugger of Spongie
Ah
WTF!
I only have 30 crests left to get, that neck/cape really boosting you up hey hahaha
I read that as "face hugger." Lol
I get Ansurek ring when we definitely for sure full reclear in 1 night (or in vualt next week)
Noob
I am indeed cheating with neck and cloak for crest saves as well
No ulgrax cuz it hasnt dropped? Or does it sim worse
Ulgrax is the exact same stats basically, it also just hasn't dropped
imagine if ulgrax dropped a weapon
Got mine last week while having ulgrax in vault

you could be me
I finally got mine last night, from the vault after he didn't drop it AGAIN
increase skill of looting weapons
Wtf!
at least i looted legendary when it was relevant!! (2 seconds after mythic fyrakk fell)
I did as well! like a month before I killed Fyrakk
week 5 
i remember i was so down bad for weapons in Castle Nathria i killed Sire Denatrius M with a heroic offhand 
actually took me longer to get a wep this season than the leggo
my guild disbanded before i got fyralath :)
I killed mythic sarkareth with heroic ash

that was pretty common i think lol
nvm it was a normal one
see that sucks
no you will overtime

why is my haste crit ring all of a sudden randomly better than my haste mastery? did something happen?
this is for multitarget, and for ST my haste vers is better than haste mastery
crit is favoured in mt and you probably have alot of mastery
Mayhaps you have talented into fierce followthrough too
For me crit/mastery was always stronger this season in multitarget than haste/mastery
opportunist still, i dont much like fierce followthrough
but i thought of all that too, however for singletarget suddenly it wants haste vers
meh i prob just failed my sims somehow.
or too much mastery I guess
Anybody have a WA for tracking bladestorm damage tickets?
why do you need that
Just run your own key (so someone can DC and brick it half way through)
ill just wait til a tank i trust is online
Me?
its an ara13
yeah
Just want a brain dead bar to look at so I don't miss unhinged procs.
Surely you aren't cancelaura'ing your BS?
Rav
Yes
i don't understand how a bar that tracks bladestorm ticks will change your gameplay
Thatβs brazy
Cheers
How many of you swapped arms for princess prog?
I love how everytime this gets shared, the pixel quality gets worse.
not needed since dps check is fake + fury does prolly better ST in your fury optimized gear
Baseg
Bro popped recklessness
insta kicked into "sry mate came on"
get warlock filtered
i came on ur mom
Solid take
Which is insane
Needs less pixels.
sorry remembered brown is warrior donβt want that
3
well 3 including me ofc
@queen linden what typa shit advice is that
:chadding
Lmao
if u bend down to the other warr why are u even warr
juts roll to ret at this point
if u lose the pad fight, come back stronger
xD
beat them
Okay fine. Hear me out. cut their internet lines so you're the only brown bar.
Then go full AOE and win
if you have aggro on the adds
start yelling for externals
if u die to melee u LITERALLY win
and blame tnaks
I have been advised not to further elaborate.
hm
Just use a basic Slayer AOE build. You could swap out Meat cleaver for a point in VC. Also, i'd look into CD timings.
you spec
thane juice
out of ww talents

and still win on add damage
appreciate it, thanks all.
I also haven't done rash in weeks, so what do I know 
I did but that was over a month ago, just play whatever you want now since with buffs/more gear you can afk through the fight

nerf fury 
wtf you doxxed me

If I have 636 crafted weapon and I pick myth weapon from vault can I upgrade up to 636 w/o spending crests?

Yes
hey, i just started going back to warrior and been mainly playing RA fury, i have a question regarding execute, I know its the lowest priorty out of everything except when you have 3 stacks, but if it procs from suddon death do you let it run out if you don't get to 2/3 stacks or do you just send it before the proc expires?
3 stacks of marked for execution
2 stacks of sudden death
sudden death about to expire unused
ashen juggernaught buff about to expire
(basically, don't waste stuff)
we dont play AJ in m+ i thought
I'm just saying in general
ah i see, alright ty very much
because i tried just not using them and that desynced imminent demise i would have 3 stacks and not get an execute so i was wondering if that was worth it
but i guess just don't waste the proc
yeah things get lined up weird sometimes on trash. If I'm running slayer for a key I try not to waste potential bladestorm reductions by letting things die with marks on them
probably take trinket?
alright yeah thank you very much
gonna sim it thought but idk how trinket will be measured
when simming do I put in 639 lvl? or the one in vault? does it matter?
Always sim stuff from the vault at its max potential
aight
another night of being forced to play prot :( had to tank rash prog on sunday but atleast we killed it
Whoβs got the meta raid single target build
Cause boy am I struggling
And donβt say wow head cause I used wow head and boy oh boy is it dog water
Critcake the YouTuber?
for full ST like sikran and kyveza, it's the wowhead raid ST slayer build
Crit I took your m+ MT build now Iβm pumping
Maybe ur not playing it right
Ngl
Oh Iβm asking for help
Matter of fact
Anyone willing to jump on a 5min discord call with me to explain Iβll pay thatβs how desperate I am π
post your logs
Dont pay for shit ppl would do for free 
someone will tell u how to improve for free
Also if ur able to explain what ur doing and why
99% of the time answer is gonna be read guide and hit dummies
Tbh and Iβm no longer trolling is I donβt even know how to post logs. Havenβt played in awhile. Just got back. Ilvl 611. I do fine mythic + but ST I got embarrassed
We can figure out if you are tripping yourself up somewhere
which will work
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Who this hrothmar guy
He is Hrothmar

haven't been able to win a mythic 2 hander or get lucky in my vault should i just craft a second any thoughts?
Yes!
Post the link
Damage breakdown is useful but we can do better
I cant really look at it on phone but im sure someone will in a bit
it looks like you're favoring BB/BT a lot more than CB/RB
yeah i mean I dont know when to clikc things I kinda just spam TBH lol
if there up there being pressed ha
Prolly step 1 for you is to read the guide and figure out why stuff is being pressed in what order
you used a proc'd execute in your opener before hitting bladestorm, that's super out of order
The main things u check for with that build is
Did i spend my crushing blow, bloodbath
Did i use sudden death before it runs out, before ashen juggernaut runs out or when i had 3 stacks of marked for exe
Then you check if ur still enraged, if ur not and can Rampage you Rampage
you have a couple gaps in enrage uptime during CDs
are there any good addons I can download that will help with this?
If you are enraged you can press rb until ur at line 100 ish rage
You can get weakauras to help seeing the info that ur basing spell priority on
Or you get hekili which just tells you the right input as Training wheels
my buddy told me hekili sucks
IMO the former makes you the better Player than the latter
Hekili is not ideal for being good at the game
It can help with getting better at a class
hekili will get u consistent purple parses but if u want to climb higher learn to ride ur bike without the addon
i guess i need to figure out where to see when those marked for exe etc are at before i cast spells
there is no reason to use hekili on fury
just from a quick look, your cpm seems a bit low, might just have to smash your keys harder
Anyone seen 2 mythic weapons outsim the standard mythic wpn + crafted for the embellishement?
theres not tbh, just press the button thats glowing
@heavy flax i hate to admit it but im a clicker lol. i did just buy a noga mouse that came in today!
anyways it looks like he is prioing bt / bb
then you have no hope. just live with your bad damage
What to press optimizations only make sense if you are pressing often enough
i see very few logs using mandate on st fights like nexus princess, is it just not great or do not many ppl have it? its just heroic transmitters or 626 khadros
@knotty lotus I will
5th week in a row of no trinket/wep
wdym no trink you got transmitter
Defo kb Rampage bloodthirst raging blow execute
ohh, yeah if there's times where you're not pressing a button as soon as your gcd is up then def work on that, will be easier without clicking for sure. you'll lose alot of dps just from not keeping your gcds rolling
sure ig but im still with hero track offhand
unlucky
might aswell be crafting 636 off hander this week xd
try getting into a mythic pug raid
now to log on my tank to get 2 myth trinkets and myth shield
our bis weapon is in the first boss anyways
kill that boss and leave
its what I am trying to do as well atp
........
Still running that 606 Sacbrood cuz ya boy cant win one to save his life / nothing in vault ever
really
its super awesome
i get skarmorak on my tank alt
I didnt read the replies so apologies if this has already been said, you are pressing bt and raging blow way too much, overcapping your rage with them and as a result losing enrage uptime
being enraged is 100% the most important part of fury warrior and you should have close to 100% uptime
or ideally 100%
with correct play it will never drop, just press rampage more and stop pressing raging blow/bloodthirst when you are above 100 rage, press rampage instead
I personally hate transmitter, way too many BS things to try to do during pulls. Sacbrood and mastery on use trinket my goto (GB or SV)
isnt that telling me to press cb and bb and all that alot?
basically always send crushing blow, and if you're still below 100 rage you should send bloodbath and raging blows, but as soon as you are above 100 rage press rampage to dump it
yes, but you are also pressing the unempowered versions far too much, and overcapping rage with them
ahh
spend cb and bb every time you rampage basically but priority is keeping up enrage, so if it's gonna fall off, don't press raging blow or bloodthirst and prioritize rampage
bloodthirst is fair enough from unhinged, bladestorm is also fair enough
but raging blow should ideally have 0 waste
Yah, general rotation I try to keep in mind, Rampage > Crushing blow, Blood bath. Lots of time you'll get back enough rage to ramage and do the two empowered attacks again.
so under 100 press bloodbath and raging blows then once that gives me above 100 spam rampage
i neeed to be doing those 3 as much as possible then? rampage crushing and bb?
this is a big help thanks guys
if you have used your crushing blow charge and are above 100 rage always rampage
yes
i may sound dumb but i promise im not.l.....
it's okay we all learnt somewhere
wow is just new to me again and so much fucking info lol
Ye fury is infinitely more complex than it usually is
Only way you sound dumb is if you tried to tell us your spamming was the better play π Outside of that, you're asking for help, you dont sound dumb. I personally can't always learn from the wowhead guides and having someone say it makes more sense to me. You're not alone buddy π
Rn
I'd almost say that S3 DF was more complex than current Fury by far
rampage, crushing blow, blood bath.. rinse repeat
Especially after all the buffs/nerfs which simplified our rotation more
Really?
honestly yes, this is a fine start
then CD's when available
I thought DF s3 was very basic in comparison
Idk personally i rlly enjoyed s3 and it didnt feel bad
But i also did big fuck dam back then cuz of week 3 lego

tbh he didnβt say it was bad just more complicated
I was rewarching my old S3 kills
I think you could mess up your damage a lot more easily back in S3 than you can now
CDs mattering does let u grief a lot
If you compared start of S1 TWW Fury though then I'd prob say they were equal
But the buffs kinda made the weird conditionals if you cared for them irrelevant
so just hit a rotation on dummy. Rampge, Crushing blow and bloodbath. I noticed the crushing blow has 2 charges it looks like? Do i always use it 2x? so rampage, crushing x2 then bb?
Are people playing more of the thunderstrike verison in M+ now? I've been playing it awhile and really do like more consistent aoe
You only get 1 use of Crushing Blow and Bloodbath per use of Rampage, except if either one of them gets parried. If CB/BB gets parried you keep your charge, if Rampage gets parried you get neither CB nor BB
The 2 charges is shared for Raging Blow/Crushing Blow as a whole
oh ok. so if i have 2 charges, the first is crushing then the last is raging?
Yea
Correct
ok so basically fuck the last charge lol
Finding a good weak aura that shows you your enrage uptime, rage bar, and important abilities is incredibly helpful. Luckily Fury has a very easy priority list for it's rotation and CD usage. Getting some jewelry with mastery might be beneficial for you, but honestly Raidbots will be your best friend! Using a droptimizer sim to see where your biggest upgrades are is incredibly helpful. As an example you can run a droptimizer sim for Patchwerk 1 target 5 minutes, and you can see how big of an upgrade certain items will be for you. ST feels a little bit overwhelming with all the different procs and how much rage you generate during CDs but if you're following the priority list you should be good to rock and roll while you inevitably find replacements for gear that'd be more optimized for your character.
Weak Auras are really great for tracking different buffs and abilities, so you can manage your CDs a little better. In aoe tracking meat cleaver stacks is so helpful.
No no, you end up using both charges if you rampage, crushing, blood bath.
You should always use both empowered charges per rampage press from my understanding
ok so then do use crushing/raging before clicking blood bath
my man chawie is chiming in lets see
I think it's bad to learn using hekili, you get too reliant on it and dont actually learn to play the class you just learn to press the light up icon, getting a good (but compact) weakaura pack that tracks everything you need and nothing more is better
crushing blow and bloodbath before even thinking about raging blow or bloodthirst
And now log some other fight after youve practiced a bit
And we can assess the improvement

ill act like raging and bloodthirst dont even exsist
are there logs on dummies? lol
def get a weakaura that shows you how much time you have left on enrage
ok they need to exist outside of cooldowns because cb/bb wont give you enough rage to rampage again
Yea you can log that
but you can effectively see them as a tool to get to your next rampage
Where can i find AM m+ thane build?
got it so if i find myself in a position when rampage isnt available, thats a good sign to click on those @chawie to get rampage back up
got it
ok let me fuck some dummies up BRB
Looks better but also send a log right
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I have a macro for my skills. Its not optimal, but at ilvl 609 its gets me around 800k+ dps on single target with Mountain Thane
nice altreu
Did u see the video
It goes over how to get those
oh let me look and ill send
Is there a haste cap? Like where at some point it doesnt do anything?
Just sim
well techincally yes
100% should be haste cap
But...that is obviously unobtainable
But yeah, sims are just more accurate then old "stat caps" are
Yeah, im just relearning Fury. Been back for lil over a month and i stopped playing during Pandaria.
Back then we still had hit and expertise and those had a cap before it was just a wasted stat.
Wasnt sure if haste had the same thing going on.
Crit was also a big thing back then but I see some get 1mil dps with less then 20% crit
Don't ever stress stats, esp when gearing; ilvl is king, you'll settle into simming etc once you've reached a decent base on gear and have options
If you're below like 625ish ilvl, you have tons of crests to farm and gear to still get, then you can start learning to sim it all, and the robot will tell you what to do
Yeah well I haven't got lucky on that department so... Transmitter it is.
too many bs things to do (jump 3 times or move slightly to the front right) holy moly
I will say I wish I had this one button macro thing back then. So far its saved my ass countless times. I can just focus the screen.
is it possible to sim what stat is best for you ?
kind of but its also just not information you can reasonably act on
Anyone have a good link to a video that can explain how simming works and how to use it?
stick to top gear or in this case droptimizer sims to figure out what gear you need
Droptimizer can do crafted items
But generally go hast mast
Cant rlly go wrong with that esp if the char isnt bazillion ilvl
im like 30 haste 42 mastery
Just go to top gear and use that
Easier to do compare many crafted items at once with different stats
what if it was woke gear instead
woke nonsense
utter
I could use more haste. Im sitting on 22% haste but my Mastery with flask is 46%
I tried using the sim thing. I dont really understand it.
Havnt found a decent guide
And I dont want to pay to use that site if thats whats making it weird for me.
youre not going anywhere
nice wrists bro
ring time I think
Is it good to use 2x authoity of radiant power on the weapons? or do they not stack?
I think it stack
just like the old haste enchant from dragonflight, once proc the value is doubled.
do you think radiant power is better btw? for raiding, or authority of the depths?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbq8bdMlvY i didnt watch this video but its probably a good example of how its used
They stack yes, and it's fine if you predominantly just do M+
It simply doubles the effect, strength and damage
I only play fury for raiding
if you exclusively raiding go depth x2
if you exclusively M+ go radiant x2
I play prot for M+
Then go 2x Depths
okay cheers ill grb depths
the question become if we do both? just doesn't matter probably only minor difference?
It does not matter enough to warrant swapping (unless you genuinely have millions of gold you don't care about wasting)
Depths is still good in M+ for prio/boss damage
have you guys ever had bugs where your rampage didnt give you CB and RB stacks?
and sometimes the CB and RB dont get consumed on use
Did you get parried? If so yes Rampage wont give you neither CB, nor any more charges
And if your CB gets parried, it wont consume the CB either
You very likely just got parried then
parried in 2024 
is the Wings of Shattered Sorrow good for us ?
Yes
Though I would not worry too much about it unless you get it on Myth track, if it means you got a choice between a HC Wings or a myth track item
god bless america god bless our troops and god bless this discord for helping me with my rotation
enjoy your days
how much worse is radiant power over depths?
im guessing on st its much worse but aoe its over
Not much worse, been a while since I simmed but it's roughly 2%~ in favour of either one going from ST to AoE
taking both st and aoe into account radiant power wasnt even my best choice for enchant
im running 1x mastery 1x vers right now
guys, need to ask a question. Does https://www.wowhead.com/classic/item=11809/flame-wrath Flame Wrath just sim so good or actually its our BIS?
For pure ST it's your best offhand, but there are only 2 bosses in the entire raid where this'd be relevant
If you get it, great, but not something I'd go out of my way to get
how much of a % diff is it on ST?
(I know it changes from person to person, but approx)
From other people's sims, about 0.7%-1% ish
okay that's actually a decent amount
whats the best mainhand then? 2hand from mists?
The first one you get your hands on π
On myth track
is that swapping out mythic ulgrax wep or changing to lining?
depends on your gear and what secondaries you need
got it, thanks
The technical best weapon is the Wild Hammer (which is only in context to have the rest of the technical best gear), but it all depends on the rest of your gear as Silm said
Pretty sure the best setup is using crafted weapon still with Writhing and Ascendance
I haven't really cared enough to dive into it since it's such a small increase on only 2 bosses
Weapon or shoulders? Canβt decide π₯²
did you use a store bought potato or home grown to take this picture?
Paint
Weapon if you havenβt got both myth track on weapons
even if is crit/mastery?
iLvl more important
stats on weapon barely matters
dear fury warriors of skyhold. I am confused and baffled why is the sim's bladestorm does 2x the damage vs my dummy test? Both image has 3 bladestrom cast. Please help...
you can maybe care abt it week 25 of the season where you're literally full bis
Tier chest or cloak? π€
chest
Maybe you forget to enrage before bladestorm?
because bladestorm damage in simc includes everything from unhinged
does anyone have flask sim strings please ?
yea
lmfao
Used to fury tank group finder heroics and raids back in Panda. Doesnt seem to be a thing anymore.
Did a normal dungeon yesterday and they still hit like trucks
quelthalas. you dodged a bullet

lorem ipsum
No, it's not my name.
Kill the boss Spongie
trying
Is it possible to check what talents people are running for the raid? I currently have a single target page and then one for anything larger than 1 and even then I think they may be outdated. Any good sources?
doesnt help that the other warrior gets 5 mroe slayer strikes and does 10 mil more damage with them
xDDDD
slayer or thane, wich is the best actually? cause ive seen many on murlok come back to slayers
unhinged counts as bladestorm
on logs
guys did blizz do something to skarmorak trinket? i just did a run where every time it desync'd from my cds
it had like 5-7s more cd
Yea, its lame
oh fuck right
ok so the solution is to not hit the affix, got it
seriously now, is it better to hold the CDs for the trinket or just use them as they come?
Depends on the timing it shouldn't be that far off from trinket coming up
But in a season where on use trinkets are king rn I'm surprises they didn't add cdr to them as well w the affix
At the key levels it's at it isn't game breaking but it is annoying af
The West has fallen
fuck!!
It would be funny if 8 of those 20 mutual servers were dedicated entirely for the storage of soundboards, of one particular streamer who's known for playing an often disliked spec
epic
FWR
maybe we do it
this raid
thoughts
wait its gonn b heal on ansurek no
cause of disps p2
hate healer mechanics
sacrifice a guy per platform or
Check Warcraft logs, click on a top parse and then click the name again. Then click on summary and look at talents
Guys i have a question, why are almost all the warriors play Spear Of Bastion, it doesnt seem to work for me. I use DR instead
Do i need to change stats to more Crit?
yeah and its only lethal if 2 explode at the same time
so u sac a guy so it booms early
I assume you apply as dps and he accept then whisper that?
weird guy you dodge a bullet
you should've reply "I Apply with DPS icon, why would you think I am tanking?"
@golden hare why you trash
is that eternal palace?
its only lethal on the one side
where it double booms during the wrest
then have a guy jump off on that side noobv
Yesh.
Gotta farm up that Ink pod. Lol
did we get nerfed or
ye
do I take ulgrax belt or socket from vault hmmmmmmmmm
Can a fellow zugger point me to the Spell reflect WA pls
Original WA: https://wago.io/IkerOKywU Tells you when to reflect in Dragonflight dungeons and raids. Triggers only when
Thanks papi
We have just been given perspective. Frost dks 
Need quick tip, should i macro my stances to lik spell reclet/ rampage
or sum like that
just use the macro to have them on one button
There's no reason to do that
no sr should be separate bind
Also there's a chance that if you macro it to ramapage you could cancel zerker
U mean have both stances macrod to one?
to switch back and forth
okok
just got treacherous transmitter, how am i using it at the start of a pull?
collect deez
holy
hi zhai
true and real
meowder pardner
please cease

im depression
so am I (I ran out of ice cream and hot chocolate gg)
did i
@clever belfry hosen check
so says the famed slayer of ansurek
so says the shade of xavius
silence worm
Me when I forget to turn off BW /say
huge
can't wait having to play minigames in a minigame
did anyone have massive action delay/lag on ovinax today on EU servers?
my whole raid have this problem currently
so what did you do? gave up?
laggy or what
parasites when they spawn they dont cause FPS issue anymore, but there is like 1-2s input delay
my actions were 5 seconds behind
like 7s bladestorm kekw
guys slayer or thane in m+ right now for best dps eoverall?
slhaner
T_T
you asked
Thayler RAAM
Thlayner?
Everything is pretty close and comparable and not a big worry until honestly like 16/17s
Try all 4 various builds and see what you enjoy and resonates with you best and slam it
Bro this not reclearing thing is such dogwater Iβm at 634, 4 sockets deep from vaults -.-
I just got 636, Not a Single Bad vault



