fury

[astral path]

weve had 1 drop every week, 2 weeks ago double drop

i dont think anyone in our grp doesnt have it yet

[sullen dove]

watch you mouf

[astral path]

[boreal cairn]

I seen the wep way more than the cape lol

[astral path]

man i got my first socket week

after sickran neck and rash cloak back 2 back

[lament lagoon]

i got myth wep from vault today, finarry something gud

[sullen dove]

As much as I would like to say the cape is like a “you can get it any week” realistically the only thing it’s competing with in my vault is socketed helm or bracer so I mean eh

and socket is eternally available

[modest condor]

sockets get replaced next tier, transmog is eternal

[torpid sand]

the mf almost carried us, holy shit

[sullen dove]

Just feels weird giving up a heroic rash cape

[torpid sand]

but tank FUCKED up, did a giant unnecessary pull on SV golems

died like ass

[sullen dove]

and then be even more weird if I get a mythic one

[torpid sand]

and quitted the group

[sullen dove]

minus 60 crests

[torpid sand]

a classic

[warm crag]

heroic dn

[fickle bluff]

holy (literally)

[dire vigil]

Has anyone used the 636 ring craft recraft trick to get free upgrades on a 2nd ring?

If so, can you plz explain how to get that to work?

[teal pine]

Have a character other than your own craft it. It can be your alt but the item needs to leave your character.
Then use a different rank missive than the one you used the first time. Can probably also do no missive on first craft and then r3 missive that you want but i didnt try that

[dire vigil]

Ok cool. And you craft it using a gilded crest the first time and then just recraft with a different missive? It doesn’t have to be like crafting to 619 and then crafting to 636?

[teal pine]

yea you can craft it max ilvl

[dire vigil]

Awesome, thank you so much. That’s probably where my 90 crests are going this week. My rings are holding my ilvl down

[teal pine]

Also needs to be crafted by someone else on the recraft. Might not have worded it clearly

[dire vigil]

Yeah I got that, craft + recraft by 2 different people, not yourself

[gleaming obsidian]

which trinket should i replace with treacherous transmitter, queens mandate or ovinax egg

[rose bay]

is the add super nerfed now or something? it kinda died fast on our 10

[past sun]

do you guys have andy macros that equip shield and use a defensive to share?

[thorny cove]

yo noob question for crafting a 636 charged claymore do I just need to place a work order with max rank mats or is it RNG even with the max rank+ enchanted gilded harbinger crest(623-636 one)

[oblique trail]

No because you will never actually use these

[past sun]

whats our defensives then? jusr spell reflect?

[oblique trail]

Even the use cases where you think they'd be useful, they aren't

Spell reflect, dstance, enraged regen

[boreal cairn]

You need to find a crafter and do a personal order and force rank 5

[oblique trail]

Impending Victory as well for self heal

[spiral orbit]

impending victory

[teal pine]

Definitely shouldnt put out a public order for it or anyone can take it and it probably wont be 636. Can just message in trade chat for someone to make it for you, there are usually a lot of people that can.
Send a personal order to them with r3 mats and set the minimum craft quality to r5

[gleaming talon]

YOu need to find someone with Maxed Claymore (Otherwise it wont be 363)

[thorny cove]

ty guys

also another question does the Rank of elemental focusing lens matter? like does rank 3 give more stats or something?

[teal pine]

No its the same it just makes crafting it harder

The way crafting works is you need to be maxed out for whatever you want to craft + full profession gear + max rank mats to be able to make high end things max rank

otherwise you need to use concentration which is limited

which the crafter would charge you extra to use

[thorny cove]

oh nvm it's only like 60 gold more lol

oh wait I need darkmoon sigil ascenscion I'm dumb I got mixed up cuz I pvp rip

man I can see why people buy wow tokens im so poor now lol

[royal solar]

For M+ focus do we still prefer Depths enchant on both weapons ?

[rotund ginkgo]

any NA gamers willing to give me a mt. dew code

mayhaps will exchange for grinning reaver code

:>

[past pivot]

Non-NA can get codes. But I have to get my cycle first.
Then maybe action off codes.

[lost solar]

So is everyone running Flask of Alchemical Chaos or something else? I'm trying to figure out if its even worth running alchemical chaos is Mast/Haste is significantly better than Crit/Vers for us, why not just run Tempered Mastery or Tempered swiftness? Overall its only 65 total secondary stats less but we can actually choose to prioritize the secondary stats where its most beneficial to us for the whole fight?

[past pivot]

You can sim it

[lost solar]

Where do people sim on retail? Simmed a ton in classic, but idk what sites people use now

[hexed lotus]

raidbots

[silk wharf]

I assume the potion pushes chaos to be the flask to use.

[hexed lotus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot if you have simulationcraft addon type /simc in game to copy your character and talents, otherwise import from armory

[lost solar]

oh i see.... interesting

[desert tartan]

hey guys is binding of binding worth with my healer? i have a 619 ring atm.

is it simmable?

[teal pine]

Yea i know for my dk crit flask sims better without pot but alchemical is better with pot.
Probably same with warrior but i havent looked

[teal pine]

thewarwithin.binding_of_binding_on_you=1
add that and you can sim it

I think its usually kinda good just cringe

[desert tartan]

thank you. where do i add this? under spec=fury?

[teal pine]

put it in the custom apl box

[desert tartan]

thanks

[worthy mountain]

ooft

[opaque falcon]

Ring

[worthy mountain]

ya ring insane

[tribal goblet]

whats a good % of haste to stop at?

[valid ferry]

are the builds in faq up to date?

[tribal goblet]

between 25-30?

[narrow narwhal]

whatever your sims says

[tribal goblet]

i simmed and it said i should get mastery/crit gems with only 21@ haste on ym char

[umbral ingot]

guys is 500 haste good

[tribal goblet]

%

[umbral ingot]

overall

[warm crag]

its probably too much

[fiery thorn]

https://imgur.com/dZpESPd

[sharp rose]

do I take wrathbark greathelm with a socket, or just grab a socket from the vault and put it in my tier helm hmmmm

[last pier]

now i can finally stop using my hc transmitter (until i get a myth one 😦 )

[young swan]

good lord

[warm crag]

(hc transmitter is probably still better)

[last pier]

Probably

the sims will guide the way

[lament lagoon]

can someone link me a Thane build for Court please

Or is it the same s m+ thane

[still ibex]

Is Thane recommended for Court?

[thick fossil]

Yeah... might not want to break it to em. Let em be happy. Lol

[warm crag]

anything goes, boss dies if everyone plays like a human and you reach the double damage amp at the end

slayer arms and slayer/thane fury are probs best w/ arms peaking higher

[last pier]

nah fully upgraded mark wins out slightly. technically boots won out even a littttle higher but theyre easier to come by than m mark

was very happy to find that out

at least ill have hc transmitter as option again as my gear changes and i value haste some more. (maybe if i recrafted I coulda had transmitter winning a touch but if i even miss a transmitter on one pull its a major loss anyways)

[orchid iron]

my swifty macro refuses to use 14 now, it used to work fine

#showtooltip
/cast Recklessness
/cast Blood Fury
/cast !Berserker Stance
/cast Avatar
/use Saltwater Potion
/cast [@player] Ravager
/cast [@player] Champion's Spear
/castsequence reset=45 Thunderous Roar, Odyn's Fury
/use 13
/use 14

I have transmitter in 13 and mandate in 14, it used to use 13 then it would aos use mandate 30 seconds later

[storm rune]

you can use 2 trinkets

it puts the other on a 30sec cd

[orchid iron]

i know

after that cd, it still wont use it

it worked fine last week

[warm crag]

should be 20s usually (treach is the exception)

[oblique trail]

It keeps trying to use /use 13

[orchid iron]

again, it worked fine before, it would use 13, and if 13 was on cd it would use 14

[oblique trail]

Have not ever used such a macro, but it's all that I can point out would be the likely culprit

[orchid iron]

boo!

i hope they ddint change something

[oblique trail]

Genuine advice though would be to not use such macro's in the future

And get used to actually pressing at least your 2nd trinket, ideally also stuff like reck/roar or spear on its own as well (or at the very least have a separate keybind for this)

Stuff like this can, and has in the past, changed to how you use CDs

I.e like in S3 DF

[orchid iron]

good thing it isnt s3 df

[oblique trail]

Right

It's indeed not

But as I said, it's advice

[warm crag]

using trinkets after the buttons that do damage is also very powerful behaviour

[oblique trail]

Take it or not, up to you 👍

[lean heart]

holy shit

[fiery thorn]

🤝

[near wing]

That’s tough

[fiery thorn]

thats a sacbrood any day of the week

m+ bis is cringe af to get

[digital plover]

pov u play fureur and tag 9-10 with 2453 io 🥲

[warm crag]

fureur

[lean heart]

the weap has leech too

[warm crag]

first boss drops weapon

[digital plover]

fury* sorry :p

[near wing]

I got wild hammer today. But didn’t have mythic sacbrood so choice was easy haha

[warm crag]

unless you kill court this week and hard extend you should probs pick ara kara

[lean heart]

i think sac is the play

[wanton wigeon]

Has anyone given Ovi'nax egg a test drive at all yet? Just trying to figure how much does moving/not moving affect what's displayed in the sims

[warm crag]

its a good stat stick its just a headache to think abt optimizing in fights where you cant exactly decide your movement (so like the hard ones)

you can sim less optimal stat combinations iirc the sim tries to keep it at 20/10

[wanton wigeon]

is the play just maximising stationary uptime?

[warm crag]

idk i think 20/10 sims highest

[wanton wigeon]

makes sense will find out

[warm crag]

you'll have to dig into documentation for it

its not too hard to find

[pulsar quest]

why would u ever use a swifty macro tho

whats the appeal

you will never be able to min max your rotation using something like that

[past pivot]

People are lazy, stupid or both.

[pulsar quest]

a guildie just made a point for impairment reasons, and that of course makes sense

but outside of that its just laziness

[young swan]

macros are fine

just have buttons on their own as well

or dont

doesnt matter all that much

[oblique trail]

I will always recommend people at least have them on separate keybinds, to at the very least have it in place and something to be aware of

You never know when or if we'd go back to S3 DF CD rotation

There's also a very real case to be made for a boss like Broodtwister which is relevant now, where having separate binds is basically required (if your CD timings are for 1st egg set)

[shrewd fern]

Raid

[meager void]

keybinds are a very personal thing tho. Ive seen players with just a mmo mouse and 1-5 and players with 200 keybinds and a 2-button mouse.

and everything in between

I personaly stopped trying to find a meta for keybinds and just make make-shift amends to my current macros/stuff as it goes.

[summer quail]

there are also people who click everything

[rich flame]

Macro everything for big damage 💪 big number

[neat gazelle]

MT in mythic + is the best don’t @ me

[rich flame]

You are correct + based

[hollow elk]

whats a swifty macro?

[neat gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[meager void]

like, and this will prob read veyr stoopid, atm Im doing a macro keybind that swaps pages my main bar back and forth. The only difference between the paged bar is swapping BT and RB. (one toggle is for MT, another is for ST)

[orchid iron]

welp Im old

[warm crag]

??

[past pivot]

Age has nothing to do with it

[hollow elk]

what. xD

[meager void]

it sorta maintains a similar flow between favoring BT in AoE and favoring RB on ST

[orchid iron]

Swifty was a famousish youtube Warrior who made macroing all your shit into an iWin button popular like 10 years ago

[meager void]

a similar button smash flow

[hollow elk]

ah

[rich flame]

I could be wrong because I never looked into his macros, but they are just cast sequence macros with an ideal rotation right

[clever belfry]

swifty macro = go fast

[orchid iron]

no it was just all your CDs and pots and stuff I dont think you could cast sequence back then

[clever belfry]

(press all buttons in the same global)

[rich flame]

Ahhh okay

[hollow elk]

hmm i have like avatar/trinket macroed together cuz same timers but. i cant imagine having all your cds on a single button.. hell i didnt think you could put that many skills together lol

[rich flame]

I mean when I'm playing slayer I do macro my recklessness, Avatar, trinket, and dragon roar

Doesn't work well if you're running anger management though

[smoky vale]

until you are on brood and are griefing if you are not one of 2 warriors

[pulsar quest]

i just dont see any reason to macro it, its like 4 buttons

[rich flame]

On brood I hold bladestorm for the first pop

[pulsar quest]

what if u want to only pop 45s cds so u have everything together on the next pull

[smoky vale]

only thing that makes sense is ava trinket

but even then

[orchid iron]

then do that?

[pulsar quest]

u should BS at the start

[smoky vale]

i have a 2nd trinket keybind

[pulsar quest]

u wil have it back up by the 1st set of adds

on brood pull you go, Charge - OF - Roar - Ramp - BS - Ramp

[rich flame]

I have before but I feel like I never got it up, maybe just unlucky execute resets

[sullen dove]

What if you just… prio the other button in the scenario it’s better for

[warm crag]

preposterous

[meager void]

i feel judged

[smoky vale]

im pretty sure its roar of

[sullen dove]

I used to do similar stuff when I first picked up wow in mop and I was 11 or something and as a boomkin I made one hotbar of all solar spells and another hotbar of all lunar spells

[meager void]

no no, you are right

[sullen dove]

And I was like “ooh I moon eclipse time to hit moon spells”

[warm crag]

i would rather invest brainpower in changing my entire bars and ui around mid key instead of just pressing a different button

[pulsar quest]

i find if i do roar OF it usually slows me down a bit

[sullen dove]

This included dots

[meager void]

im actually testing if id rather do it this way or just prio the other thing

[sullen dove]

I would not sunfire in lunar eclipse

And moon fire in solar

[meager void]

but these muscles have limited memory apparently ngl

[sullen dove]

And then I mentioned that to a guildy or friend or something years later and they’re like “what the hell are you talking about”

I mean if it’s a significant change from st to aoe like some specs can be makes sense but that’s less making a new hotbar and rotating thru em and just whatever hotbar is saved when you swap talents

[smoky vale]

how so?

[pulsar quest]

idk it feels like i delay almost a whole gcd

[sullen dove]

but in this situation it’s just… 2 buttons that are slightly one ahead of the other

[pulsar quest]

ill have to try it again on reclear tonight

[sullen dove]

you still hit both very frequently in both content

[warm crag]

roar of is probably correct but feels bad to press lol

[pulsar quest]

its prob just a feel thing

[sullen dove]

Cuz odyns has a longer animation of spinning rather than just one little yell

So you’re sitting there waiting for your character to do something before you of after roar

Where if you of roar you just finish winding down from the of into an insta roar

What it feels like to me at least

[pulsar quest]

just gotta find the right spot in ur charge to roar

so it still hits and gcd is up by the time u start hitting

[smoky vale]

what is the radius of roar?

[orchid iron]

12 yds

[past pivot]

12 yards

[smoky vale]

just roar halfway through charge

[oak peak]

Fierce Followthrough > Opportunist right?

[rotund ginkgo]

dont u guys love it when u run ur key

and it goes

incredibly smooth

and the key bricks to a bug?

[pulsar quest]

deserved for exploiting

owned

[rotund ginkgo]

i hope u choke on a lego

[pulsar quest]

dude!!! i was just chomping on one not cool

[rotund ginkgo]

hope u chomp on another one and choke

[pulsar quest]

if it makes u feel better we bricked my 14 and my 13 gb earlier

[rotund ginkgo]

also me

[rotund ginkgo]

it does, deserved for downing on a fellow warrior

[pulsar quest]

apologies friend

[rotund ginkgo]

not accepted, im angy now

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[pulsar quest]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freaky-cat-level-infinity-gif-15287917168381984815

does this help

[rotund ginkgo]

yes thats goated i saved it ty

[keen fulcrum]

When using Transmitter/Skarmorak do you just send Skarmorak on CD since you're generally just using Transmitter to line up with your big CDs?

[pulsar quest]

i use trans with my big cds

and skarm for my 45s cds

[keen fulcrum]

Or would you hold Shard for the 2nd OF

Cool beans.

[pulsar quest]

so trans w biggies

[compact knot]

use transmitter 14 seconds before then send shard with cds

[pulsar quest]

then if ur slayer, skarm with my 2nd OF and BS

[compact knot]

[limpid geode]

Did they remove the crafted BiS cloak for fury? was gonna craft it this weak

[past pivot]

crafted cloak was never BIS

[lost gale]

guys how do u force the proc of thunderblast charges? im not getting it, is it spamming bloodbath and pray that it procs?

[snow edge]

‘BiS’ is just a guide anyway - craft what benefits you individually; if cloak is a significant upgrade, go nuts

[snow edge]

Uhh procs based on X% chance can’t be ‘forced’, so yeh you press BT and it may proc

For MT you’re generally prioritizing BT anyway, so it doesn’t require extra effort or thought

[lost gale]

so basically BT is number 1 prio if dont need to refresh enrage

thunder blast -> enrage -> bt -> crushing blow ?

[snow edge]

I think technically BT has prio in 2+ targets, and RB might still be slightly better in straight ST; but it’s a small optimization and just prioritizing BT is probably completely fine

[lost gale]

it needs to be Bloodbath and crushing blow to get the proc right? cant be done with BT/RB

[snow edge]

Ideally you want to be enraged for TB, so enrage > TB > BB > CB > Rampage; it’s slightly different for AM spec of course

BT also procs it

Otherwise AM would be a dead spec

[lost gale]

thanks, i changed today from slayer and it changed a bit the prio and i was kinda lost because sometimes it takes a few to get the TB procs

[snow edge]

Yeh, RA is pretty scripted but the TB procs require on the fly changes

[past sun]

quick question, how high in prio is BT when it lights up? do i press it even withoug the RB stacks?

[lost gale]

MT or slayer?

if slayer u wont press it if u dont have 75% crit on BT, MT idk i still learning it

[past sun]

MT

[lost gale]

i would say if it proc Bloodbath and thunderblast on cd/no stacks and still has enrage press it, otherwise enrage first, but not sure wait for someone more experienced

[summer quail]

for what? aoe or st? RA or AM?

[oblique trail]

Simple rule of thumb prio is
(Tb if Thane) > CB > BB > Ramp > RB > BT in ST
(Tb if Thane) > BB > CB > Ramp > BT > RB in AoE

There are nuances to it, like in ST you'd prio BB if at 95% crit chance, but it's not super frequent

The priority however is applicable to both Thane and Slayer, as well as RA and AM

[dire vigil]

What do you guys think here? I do not have a myth cape or legs. Legs are nice as I save some crests, but it is true bis m+ cloak on the myth track

[oblique trail]

Legs

Crest save, highest stat budget slot

[dire vigil]

thats what I was thinking too, i have the cape on hero track, not that big of a dif between 626 and 639 cape

[oblique trail]

Indeed, cloak ilvl is very much a whatever thing

[dire vigil]

cool, thank you 💯

[grizzled fiber]

Thank u for that write up sir. Really appreciate it as I’m new to fury this expansion. Helps!

[summer quail]

there's some more to it, rampage being highest prio for AM and for burst of power(stronger bloodthirst proc) for RA you would want to spend it on bloodbath

[grizzled fiber]

Ah I see, thank u Mutou

[oblique trail]

It's mostly just for bare bones priority, to help easily visualise the rotation

But yes, there's what Mutou mentioned, as well as stuff like 3x Marked for Execution being highest priority if you're playing Slayer

[grizzled fiber]

Got it, thank u Banezi. I’ll read more and practice.

[oblique trail]

Pros and cons to laying it out like that, would recommend the wowhead/maxroll guide for more descriptive priorities

[grizzled fiber]

😊👍🏻

[odd star]

what counts as a "unique algari gem color"? is the maximum 4?

[oblique trail]

5 technically, but the stamina gems aren't worth it

But the unique gems is just one of every colour, so Ruby, sapphire, emerald and onyx

[keen fulcrum]

Well...

I parsed better than last time I guess.

Still think i'm missing a bunch of BBs. 🤦

[dense jewel]

Nexus Princess parse

[keen fulcrum]

Noooooice

[fervent yoke]

is court still slayer or is it thane?

[pearl sequoia]

well top logs are 78% slayer

[agile loom]

If we go berserkers torment (recklessness/avatar grants 8 secs of the other) does that extend or should i be spacing those out?

[modest condor]

it extends

[keen fulcrum]

Woooo. About to start Brood prog again.

[fresh trail]

is doubling up on 636 crafted weapons a waste of crests?

[keen fulcrum]

Ye

Big crest and spark waste

[fresh trail]

sitting on 90 crests and thinking i should just update my gear then?

have a 626 off

well damn

bracers it is

or do i upgrade bigger slots first...

[oblique trail]

It's not bad no, if you have no other really good slots to upgrade rn

If you have 90 crests sitting anyway, and 2 sparks, you skip vault gambling every week

[fresh trail]

i only do mythic+ so the way i see it is if i get a vault myth weapon anyhow, i'll be able to upgrade it to 636 anyhow

since both slots will have 636

[oblique trail]

I'd recommend trying to get into a first 4 mythic pug group

Or at the very least kill the first 1-2 bosses

[fresh trail]

for the vault?

[oblique trail]

As first boss drops a weapon, which is another chance every week

[fresh trail]

gotcha. am i thinking logically however, that'll be a 623 and then i can upgrade to 636 no crest charge?

[oblique trail]

Correct

[fresh trail]

got it

thaks @oblique trail

[pulsar quest]

anybody have a macro that actually switches between roar and spear

when u change specs

mine doesnt work anymore

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Champion's Spear,@cursor]Champion's Spear; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar

Has worked for me since forever, though I don't swap between Arms/Fury/Prot enough to notice if it doesn't work after that

[still ibex]

You need only one 2h weapon for that

[thick fossil]

Sweet bloody hell, are they planning on fixing this craziness? Good ol Enhance exploiting the wolf bug.

[valid pulsar]

jo guys when i change from a horde faction to alliance faction do i keep my warcraflogs parses in my character profile or is a new page created ? I will keep the same name though

does anyone know who changed faction in the past

[oblique trail]

You keep your parses, as it's tied to your character ID (or something along the lines of that)

(unless you constantly swap name/realm then it can risk breaking)

If it does come to that, just contact wclogs and they can help you

Speaking from a PoV of someone who has done a lot of server, name and faction swaps in the past 👍

[lean heart]

[feral ivy]

LETS GOOOO

[oblique trail]

gz

[feral ivy]

tyty last pull of the day

[nimble ermine]

hm

[feral ivy]

i would go for wings

its rare and in raid its other ppl BIS while not ours

[nimble ermine]

yeah i know

i lowkey just didnt want it

[near wing]

Wow

[ashen tendon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808655584831864832/1303572405868036176/image.png?ex=672c3de8&is=672aec68&hm=39e07086a6f0888d49ee34214afcf162a13159255a99fce03389bb5be0e6cf68&

Surely I take the weapon for fury

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[sullen dove]

finally dropped man

[oblique trail]

The rest is kinda whatever, assuming you don't already have a 639 wep

[ashen tendon]

I do have a 639 already from ulgrax

but I could be rocking two 639s ofc

Problem is I'm kinda an arms enjoyer as of late

[oblique trail]

Sorry to hear

[sullen dove]

theres no way it wont let me use this

when im 10 away from cap

[ashen tendon]

could just wait until I do my alt raid and then take the head if I dont get it from raid

[sullen dove]

i need this shit to buy gildeds r u for fuckin real man

[robust widget]

It wont

[ashen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[oblique trail]

Personally think Arms is just absolute fecal matter rn in terms of feel to play

[ashen tendon]

It's fun in keys

in raid not so much

[sinful kraken]

How much mastery do you guys have?

[oblique trail]

at least 10%

[sinful kraken]

Cmon bro stop trollin

I got asked to play fury for broodtwister

[oblique trail]

Tried 1 key as it, ported out halfway through and swapped back to Fury

[sinful kraken]

and I dont wanna let people down

[ashen tendon]

swapped back to arms you say

big smart

[oblique trail]

I got an amount that genuinely doesn't really matter, but you have less than the typical Fury would

Just sim yourself in top gear and use what it says is your best setup with your current gear, if you don't want to go farm jewelry to try and fix it

[oblique trail]

Slight mistype, have been awake for many moons (18 hours)

[young needle]

guys, shard/mark are still the best option for m+? with the cdr affix

[ornate gust]

It seems I am getting my first socket

[oblique trail]

Yes

[little storm]

Is it realistically viable as Fury... Should I take it to replace my hero tier Skarmorak Shard for a POTENTIAL 22k dps increase (according to sim) or should I take a myth tier ring with crap stats that's a guaranteed 2.7k increase according to sim.

[oblique trail]

You just hold your CDs for a bit till they align back with your trinket

[oblique trail]

It's realistically viable yes

And at equal ilvl, it absolutely beats Shard/Mark

Personal experience, I got used to the trinket very quickly

[little storm]

I should prob just take it, I was also thinking that myth rings are a dime a dozen, I can roll a ring with better stats next week... the chances of me rolling this trinket again at all are about 0

[manic dragon]

trying to play fury in keys, fine for doing weekly 10 box, but feels too weak

[oblique trail]

And as a small tip, the ball/pad task always spawns front right of where your character is facing, and you can prepare the buff prepull

[little storm]

The ring option btw lol...

Freakin haste vers weighted more to vers >.<

[oblique trail]

While ilvl is always good to have, it matters less on jewelry

So a really good statted Hero ring (somewhat) often beats out a meh statted Myth ring

[sudden tusk]

yeah man

that hits for sure

[little storm]

Plus if I craft a ring with ideal stats I imagine even with a 3ilvl loss it'll beat out the myth ring

[oblique trail]

If you do end up doing that, yes it will

[little storm]

So yeah transmitter it is

Ty

[oblique trail]

Should've had SR ready

wcyd

[sudden tusk]

i SRed the first one

for dam

[oblique trail]

Yeah the beam hitbox can be very jank at times

Though all of prog I've not had it be that bad

Perk of being Dracthyr though is you can basically just ignore the beam/wrest combo

[gloomy loom]

Should I get myth shoulders set or crit mastery myth polearm? Is the boralus one i think

[hexed bone]

does voidbound cause ur trinkets to desync with cooldowns?

[nimble ermine]

ye

[sudden tusk]

fuck da boss

hitboxes need to explode

[nimble ermine]

grats

[pseudo wyvern]

should i really take this neck as its rare? otherwise i can go for mythic legs

[ornate gust]

Congrats

[smoky vale]

yes

@sudden tusk gz

[sudden tusk]

tyty

[frail trout]

ovinax finally down

[sudden tusk]

gz

[frail trout]

our last pull of the night, everything was finally clean

[storm rune]

love it when a plan comes together

[queen tapir]

wtf is this dog shit

[smoky vale]

your vault

🙂

[queen tapir]

man fuck me

]

Hey atlesat this has leech

whatever

[pseudo wyvern]

thats actually a great vault id say, probably bis off set piece?

[young swan]

@sudden tusk LFG

[sudden tusk]

bro im normally around 1.75 at that point but i was doing 150m less

becuase of this shit

that beam killed me

[queen tapir]

bruh

when do I get a weapon

[fathom wolf]

Does the legpatch with armor give a negligible DPS increase? Robot just keeps telling me to put on stam patch.

[chilly plume]

[modest condor]

soontm

[frail trout]

ovinax didn't drop the ring on our kill

but he's in our vault now I guess

🙏

[bold plank]

got myth oxinax trink tonight, just curious if yall let sit at 30 stacks or pop it at 20 / 10

[young swan]

wooo p3

[nimble ermine]

kill today

[restive narwhal]

Grats. What was your overall ?

[smoky vale]

gz

[frail trout]

I prob could have greeded more parasite damage or something stupid

but I was letting the big spiders come in to make more of my aoe hit them

when you have 2 fury the parasites are gonna die no matter what anyway

trying to steal more of the parasite damage kinda pointless

[restive narwhal]

Did you play 2 on use ?

[frail trout]

nope

never got a 2nd on-use although admittedly I didn't try that hard to farm one

[restive narwhal]

Sac + Transmitter?

[frail trout]

I had uh, skarmorak shard + sac

never received a transmitter either

skarmorak kinda nice though cuz you always proc a 5 stack

on bosses like that

[frail trout]

huge

[restive narwhal]

Are you Avatar on Pull ? In this Fight Length you then have 5 uses...

[frail trout]

no I was saving it for the adds

reck and odyns on pull

[queen tapir]

thats some crazy levels of paddingh

[restive narwhal]

Okay. I didnt reck in pull but i guess its fine to get it back until first adds.

Did you play SD to help feed Anger Management ?

[frail trout]

is it? idk

[queen tapir]

no clue I just said it

[frail trout]

I did a lot of boss dam on our overall

[queen tapir]

it just sounds like it though

🤣

[frail trout]

no I just charge weaved constantly

as long as a web wasn't about to go out

I spent my charges for rage

I don't think I missed any reck resets

but I believe this was a good pull where I didn't get many egg assignments

[restive narwhal]

I had Pulls, where im 5-6 sec away to get cds back for 2nd Adds. Also i played Powerfull Enrage, dont know if the other Talent maybe better for CD Reduce !?

[gilded pawn]

SD doesnt work with AM

[frail trout]

ah yeah I did not play powerful enrage

it wasn't reliable enough for me

or I'm just not powerful enough of a gamer

for reck resets

[restive narwhal]

Doesnt it indirectly because you get rage from the free Exe ?

[frail trout]

most of page 1 seems to run frenzied enrage though

for page 1 of fury logs

[gilded pawn]

sure you can count that

and tbh i thought i was in arms channel

but its very miniscule

because you couldve just pressed RB in that place

[restive narwhal]

Raidlead also said, i should play culling instead the other one.

[gilded pawn]

thte RPM is very miniscule

culling is bad

its just objectively worse in ever yscenario

[frail trout]

I'm brainfarting on the name which one is culling again

[gilded pawn]

culling cyclone

[frail trout]

Oh

apparently I was running it, but honestly I didn't know - it was a mistake

[restive narwhal]

I mean that Talent Choice wont make or break my DPS on this Fight, right !?

[frail trout]

I swapped my other fury spec to non-culling

but not my ovinax saved talents

just didn't look 🤷‍♂️

[gilded pawn]

not really no

[gilded pawn]

yeah when they buffed rampage it moved the needle

[frail trout]

yeah I moved my other general purpose slayer fury spec to rampage one

just forgot to also do that for the saved ovinax talents

whoops

[restive narwhal]

I think frenzied Rage is better for CD reduce, i will give it a try tonight.

Im old and washed up and like the slower Playstyle tho

Guess im alone with this Opinion in this Channel

[frail trout]

on that fight specifically I definitely prefer the comfort of frenzied enrage for reck reset but I usually like powerful more, although I will say frenzied felt fun to play on that boss

I didn't feel any weird performance or game delay issues that caused my shit to cast incorrectly

unlike some other bosses in this raid

[sinful glen]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3E53x6vn5syd6xNuYXa8j6

Really surprised the rings aren't simming higher

[nimble ermine]

rings have poopy stats

[sinful glen]

aye, guess im going to catalyst the myth track legs

[unreal onyx]

619 worm ring? Blasphemy

[sinful glen]

i know ;-;

[unreal onyx]

Also no offhand enchant?

[sinful glen]

It is, just the addon struggles with it

[restive narwhal]

Ah ok thx. Did you plax 2xAuthority of the Deeps ?

[smoky vale]

why would you not?

[frail trout]

I did yeah

[restive narwhal]

Thx.

[pseudo wyvern]

I checked crit, biz and noxiv armories, none of them is using sikran neck, any idea why guys?

i doubt they didnt get it

[queen tapir]

its dog shit

👌

[storm rune]

well either they didnt get it, or something simmed better

[eternal sundial]

@mossy fox?

[sudden tusk]

id 100% use it if i got it

[eternal sundial]

I mean it's as good as the best dungeon neck with defensive upside

[sudden tusk]

even over emergency stop chain

it simmed higher for me then chain did at 639

[pseudo wyvern]

yeah got639 emergency

sims 2k higher than 639 emergency but as i said, kinda shaky before picking it up from GV as there might be a reason they dont use it

so far picked 2 trinkets, ring and a neck so i'm missing a lot of chest primary stats n shit

[vague copper]

Worth going for 2:nd myth 2-hander?

[storm rune]

Can always just craft a chest until you get a myth piece in vault

[eternal sundial]

Only rlly if ur moving to the blue silken lining equivalent

Which means shuffling crafted gear - which you should definitely sim

[vague copper]

mm

Gonna sim it vs myth gloves

[storm rune]

2nd myth weapon will be an aoe dps upgrade

ST the waters get a bit muddled from things like (sub)optimal stats and embellishes

[orchid iron]

Do you guys stick with the usual patchwerk sim still or is there a better setting considering most of the raid is MT?

[gaunt moat]

[pseudo wyvern]

ye which

[gaunt moat]

went for skarm

[south kayak]

Nice.

[sudden timber]

is there a world where in m+ we wouldn't wear crafted 2h with ascension in offhand? i got a 2nd 2h but i very much doubt it's worth or am i mistaken not entirely sure how to sim that for m+ properly

[hybrid raven]

Insane vault! i'm using all 3 on hero atm. No idea what to pick

[craggy river]

sim

[craggy river]

no idea if i understand correctly, but crafted weapons are 3 ilvl below max, so if u can u always want to have a myth track weapon instead of a crafted + ascension 2h in offhand

[wild plank]

[static needle]

so whats the flavor of the week in m+ now. thane or slayer?

[flat river]

Lets gooo

[static needle]

im getting similar results

[flat river]

Socket week

[flat river]

Thane

[static needle]

execute not worth pressing i guess

[flat river]

Nope

[static needle]

yea figured

[flat river]

Only in raid with 3 stacks of marked for execution

[static needle]

silly how the ability called execute isnt worth pressing over thunderclap during "execute" phase

[tardy lark]

Execute just has very few actual synergies so the priority of it is low outside eventual juggernaut falling, SD at 2 stacks or falling off or to make you not munch MfE procs

[frail trout]

unless I read the priorities wrong you still press it as a filler to generate rage over non-RA raging blow

as thane

it can proc a lightning strike just like rb

[tardy lark]

In short it’s a button to give you bs back faster as slayer and basically non existent as thane

[static needle]

well

frees up another keybind slot 😄

[flat river]

Its still something to use

When eveything on cd

Free rage

[static needle]

which almost never happens 😛

not free costs a gcd

those are precious

[flat river]

No it does

[frail trout]

its supposedly above a regular raging blow in terms of priority

[flat river]

Your choice

[pseudo wyvern]

its like slam

[flat river]

No?

[static needle]

no worries i still got it on bars i was only semi joking

[frail trout]

maybe the wowhead entry is wrong, I'm just telling you what it says

I said supposedly, after all

the aoe entry

[foggy urchin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1296795337565929552/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[sudden timber]

sorry just waking up so maybe didn't phrase it correctly. i already have a myth weapon in mainhand, and was planning on crafting 2h with ascension for my offhand but now in vault i got a 2nd myth weapon. i wouldn't really use that over the crafted one would i

[chrome plover]

big mitter

[summer crater]

I press it at most one time per dungeon I'd say

At the absolute most

[storm rune]

exe range makes your rotation so clean though

CB>BB>Exe>Ramp repeat

[craggy river]

well depends on the key range u do, if the mobs dont live long enough for the buff to stack high, you might just go with dusk/dawnweave. (Or if you drop combat often so the buff resets)

[chrome plover]

it drops in most keys this season at least a couple of times

and takes 80 seconds to fully stack

if you don’t progression raid, only really care about keys and have 2 myth weapons available Id probably skip the weapon craft for 2x lining

[storm rune]

3ilvls on a weapon is going to be a dps upgrade in aoe regardless of ascension embellish

[neat knot]

Hey,
Feel like i am missing something important in my rotation regarding bladestorm. I am running the standard single target as a test and been trying to figure out why I am underperforming by 15% of the sims. Got the rotation down and my damage with MT is within a few % of the sims... Noticed the sims has double the BS damage than i do with same amount of casts.
Is there anything improtant I need to do before BS? I am always enraged and use rampage right before BS.

[mild spruce]

Do you ensure that you have avatar up via either avatar itself or Odyn's Fury?

[neat knot]

Nope, just throwing odyns fury whenever. Didn't even cross my mind to save it

[chrome plover]

how are you testing? In a raid or on dummys

[neat knot]

On dummys for 5 minutes.

[chrome plover]

if you’re on dummys are you doing a target dummy sim

[mild spruce]

Yeah always sync it up with your bladestorm cd. Always put it on cd just before sending bladestorm

[chrome plover]

because you won’t have all raid buffs consumes etc

lust

[neat knot]

Yea i have removed all the buffs

[chrome plover]

ok

just checking

[short cobalt]

if u do pure dungoens is it troll go go double dusk or dawnthread? or is AScension best

[chrome plover]

it’s not troll

[short cobalt]

hmm curious

ok thx

[radiant plank]

not troll if you have 639 MH

[chrome plover]

there’s no special trick to bladestorm you just press it as long as you’re enraged and ideally within other cds when they are up

also after a rampage so that unhinged sends a bloodbath for you but that isn’t affecting the bladestorm damage

[neat knot]

Ok thanks, i'll try lining it up with odys fury.

[errant steppe]

guys can i get some help with my vault? Chest is a 0.8% upgrade both ST and AOE. Trinket is 0.7% both ST and AOE and the back is 0.2% ST and 1.1% AOE. For the back i need to change embelishment to my wrists. Problem is my wrists are myth track. What would you do?

[inner harbor]

what have they done to the transmitter ?

[chrome plover]

I would personally ignore the back for now, but welcome it if it drops, are you likely to kill kyveza ever/soon? because this trinket is bis until transmitter as an on use. If not, I’d probably take that since it’s far rarer than the other items

[errant steppe]

Im ON kyveza atm

[chrome plover]

and you’re still reclearing I assume?

(Extending would be an awful idea but people do)

[errant steppe]

To be honest idk how many reclears my guild will do. Might do 1 more for the rest of the season

i know

but its what my guild does

most of the time

[tardy lark]

Odds of seeing Mark in vault again are pretty small, while you have week over week of Transmitter/cloak chances if cloak isnt an immediate upgrade

[chrome plover]

once most people have the 2 very rares it’s not bad

But I’m assuming they don’t

[tardy lark]

Bro we did 3 splits for 3 weeks and saw 2 necks and 3 rings

dont think we've had a cloak drop natty

[chrome plover]

I got a natty cloak week 2 😎

[errant steppe]

not even close 😛

[fading bane]

Ive have 2 sockets b2b

[tardy lark]

im at the point where if it isnt mythic queen ring/sikran neck its a sock

[summer quail]

if it makes you feel better i had 3 in a row

[fading bane]

My pala is at that stage

My warrior is 5 ilvls behind atm

But im going back now that prog is over

[mossy fox]

i should just get better at looting

[tardy lark]

the struggle of having to spend gilded crests for immediate power instead of the long term

[fading bane]

Should be getting fed plate during reclear

[fading sky]

what would ppl take ?

[summer quail]

chances of getting an upgrade is incredibly small now tho. just a myth trinket and that's it

[fading sky]

ofc mark is heroic my luck ^_^

[fading bane]

I got 200 gilded on war stocked

No myth pieces cus of socket vaults

[chrome plover]

tbh I’d probably take the trinket still

personally

[tardy lark]

you killed queen, right?

[fading bane]

Ye

Monday

We ran it down tho

[chrome plover]

gz

[summer quail]

oh yeah and ofcourse myth ansurek ring is an upgrade, but that's not realistic. we're prob killing her pretty late and like twice in total to give everyone CE

[tardy lark]

i dont envy the people doing double progress lo

l

[summer quail]

that's prob gonna be me...

only warrior

[fading bane]

Boss will just evaporate with max raid buff

And new tuning

[radiant plank]

Gonna get phased before last bombs in p1

[fading bane]

Hopefully queen is nerfed again when we reclear lmao

[summer quail]

I mean as long as it's not a fyrakk repeat, we barely CE'd that guy

[radiant plank]

maybe skip 2nd portals in p3 too

[fading bane]

Lust p1 and skip a set of bombs

[errant steppe]

thats what im also leaning towards, even if we drop trasnmitter im not sure i want to actually use it it looks awful to use

[chrome plover]

it’s fine idm it

I’ve been using hero one since heroic week and just got my myth one today

[radiant plank]

Forsure

[fading bane]

Everyone wants transmitter

[radiant plank]

p3 is much calmer

[fading bane]

And khardros is way easier to use

[chrome plover]

raid buff kinda goes hard

[fading bane]

Especially during hectic overlaps

[summer quail]

you get used to it. wish i had it on my warrior, lots of classes where it's stronger than warrior tho

[tardy lark]

Liquid was lusting on pull and at like 6% boss hp after 3rd adds last night

[radiant plank]

Yeaaa

and we are getting what

another 20% damage from this raidbuff still ? xdd

[tardy lark]

bro parses are such a meme this tier, but i think i'd rather take this gradual "nerf" than having shit be a nightmare to reclear for 4 months

[radiant plank]

parses are always a meme

[tardy lark]

Ye somewhat, but its the only fun thing to do during farm

[chrome plover]

parses are only a meme when I have bad ones

[radiant plank]

Thats true

[flat river]

Me and my friend were planning to do m+ boosting this season like last year for gold (he needs it for sub)

Now i taught him how to craft

And we skipped boosting

[radiant plank]

Just wait for the max raid buff and start parsin

[flat river]

We got 1 million in 2 weeks

[chrome plover]

ok Elon calm down

[tardy lark]

yeah i guess

i just want to play other shit though lol

[flat river]

Just wait for orgrimmar world buff

[honest karma]

So with orange man winning we should see fury buffs soon, no?

[sage rune]

what is max

[radiant plank]

Go on vacation and come back

once 25% buff is up

[flat river]

Btw

[sage rune]

25%??

[tardy lark]

thats a long ass vacation when we are at what... 7.5 now?

[sage rune]

[tardy lark]

or is it just 5

[chrome plover]

5

[tardy lark]

i dont keep track i just show up to raid

[chrome plover]

7.5 next week I think

[radiant plank]

quick hmm

10 week vacation?

2.5% every two weeks

[sage rune]

vacate til next tier

[flat river]

Seems we're S-tier again

[honest karma]

Wat

[tardy lark]

i'd die from wow withdrawals honestly

lol

[fading sky]

hmm how can ret be Below us when they do more dmg ?

^_^

[tardy lark]

less utility

[honest karma]

And got more util

[radiant plank]

Real

[fading sky]

i mean the avg ret mby not

but i mean, i c good players play. ret facking slaps

and ret is SUPER simple

so i mean how ?

[tardy lark]

Aagaardpink is a menace with BoP, LoH and WoG unbound

but he blasts

[honest karma]

I can’t beat a ret at the same skill lvl as me

No chance

[radiant plank]

Only Ret i ever see press those buttons is Qrva

[tardy lark]

wont catch me press WoG in instanced content

[flat river]

U-GG has a different opinion though

[tardy lark]

i love the self reply energy

[chrome plover]

because these are all bullshit 🙂

[flat river]

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-ken-barbie-movie-2023-horse-riding-patriarchy-gif-9855091473046796194

[flat river]

I trust archon more though

[eternal sundial]

Trust dn

[flat river]

Proof, i was top dps in queen heroic yesterday

[radiant plank]

Pile on

[flat river]

Wait nvm this was heroic parses not mythic

This is mythic parses

So fury IS S-tier

[chrome plover]

kms

[flat river]

Get rdy for nerfs boiz

[summer quail]

Gala have you ever thought of not typing?

[radiant plank]

Stooop pooosting

[flat river]

Ok im sorry

:<

[radiant plank]

okay not relaly

as long as it isnt your cooks

its okay

to post

[summer quail]

🤝

[tardy lark]

Mate he has a list of random topics he just pulls from at randomized intervals

hes a trained AI

[flat river]

I've been called that before

Mostly because i am unpredictable

[radiant plank]

Once NA wakeups can we ban all politics in fury chat

[winter fossil]

Confused between Tier hands and Myth boots

already farming first 4 mythic bosses so might get tier piece from tehre

there*

[radiant plank]

Boots drop from 2nd boss

[flat river]

Yeah

But also

Hands u can catalyze from m+ vault drops

[winter fossil]

True but it is also BIS for good number of players in our team (another warrior and 2/3 pala's)

[flat river]

Or raid drops

[fading sky]

ring go arms ! 😄

[winter fossil]

Not gonna go there again :p was arms in S3 and S4 DF

Enjoying Furry atm

[flat river]

I was the only warrior in the guild till i told the guildmaster I'll take it easy this year

Then he got another warrior

[fading sky]

also im trolling fury is way better atm imho

[radiant plank]

[flat river]

Yes

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/brie-larson-red-dress-kelly-clarkson-show-blasphemy-gif-1216534364813996724

[radiant plank]

If fury is better why wasnt it played in MDI like arms was

[tardy lark]

unsettling how her eyes open in sequence and not at the same time

[flat river]

Fury on rashan

Bro i swear i called it

[winter fossil]

But Sim got another opinion regarding boots

[flat river]

Fury kept getting nerfed and i kept getting good vaults

[winter fossil]

although the stats are what I need

[flat river]

Fury got buffed and now shitty vaults

[south kayak]

gg

I don't have myth track weapon

I guess I pick this one then?

[fading sky]

only thing i still cant believe

[flat river]

Weapon always

[fading sky]

is that

[radiant plank]

If the robot says the boots are bad then the stats on them arent the ones you need

[south kayak]

yo walhe

[fading sky]

Frenzy hasnt had remove the whole reset on target switch thing

[south kayak]

They'd nerf it if they remove that

believe me

[flat river]

Frenzy?

[south kayak]

Yeah

[flat river]

The haste buff when u rampage?

[fading sky]

😄

[south kayak]

The talent is giving that much haste because it has a downside

in aoe at least

[flat river]

True

Real

[fading sky]

ok

NWM then

[flat river]

In m+ i target an add

[fading sky]

i love it

[flat river]

If that add doesn't cast then im not interrupting that pull

Except with stuns

Otherwise im not interrupting

[fading bane]

Mouseover kick

[flat river]

And im blaming everyone else for not interrupting

[flat river]

I will mess it up

Just like how i mess up spear insta cast at mouse

[fading bane]

Skill tissue

[south kayak]

Mouseover kick is a godsend

[flat river]

50% chance to forget and cast it at the other side of the encounter

[radiant plank]

Mousover focus -> focus kick

[tardy lark]

just focus the target pre pull

[south kayak]

EASY

Just loot a myth track weapon

[flat river]

Yes but sometimes i forget

[honest karma]

Why you delving lmao

[radiant plank]

GL grinding 2k valorstones to upgrade

[honest karma]

Fucking delves

[south kayak]

Not a problem

[south kayak]

I did a few for quest

weekly quest

[honest karma]

Sounds boring

[south kayak]

Meh, it's fine

Was for tokens

from event

[flat river]

Valorstones, u either have max capacity and nothing to upgrade or u have none and need to upgrade everything

[hidden river]

Did they change how transmitter works? it keep desyncing for me

[flat river]

No idea never used it

And never will

I've been playing frost mage recently

So fun to just use 8 frost orbs at the same time

My 600 ilvl mage did 3.7 million on a big pull in m+

Which is higher that my fury warrior dmg

[south kayak]

wtf why do i only need 15 gilded?

[flat river]

My 625 fury warrior

[south kayak]

is it because of crafted weapon

that is nuts

HOLY

[flat river]

I mean crafted weapon IS 90 gilded

[hasty sapphire]

but still safe 60

[flat river]

I got socket this week

[polar roost]

Have already khardros on myth. Should I pick hands or shard?

[flat river]

Hands

Shard is only good for m+

Cause it gives less mastery

But some mastery when u kill adds

[polar roost]

But hands could drop next raid PepeHands~1

[flat river]

Yeah but

Do u play m+

[polar roost]

mostly yes

[flat river]

If u can't make a choice wait till next raid

See if hands drop

[south kayak]

Shaman got shit vault

sucks

[slim pollen]

Also quite a few boss fights with adds that will trigger the shard passive, i like it

[chrome plover]

Depths2

[flat river]

Dayum i didn't even see

Shame

[south kayak]

I'm poor

[teal pine]

I would go shard. The mastery difference is negligible. The on use is functionally the exact same but shard has its passive

[flat river]

Doesn't anyone in your guild have enchanting?

[royal crater]

accidentally I craft 636 wrong weapon with intellect 😦 im dumb asf, cant recraft it or do something? waste of 4 weeks gg

[teal pine]

And you can go double on use with AM if you dont have/dont want to use transmitter

[flat river]

Nope

Just gotta own it

[chrome plover]

upgrading that probably almost as big as your weapon

[winter fossil]

Would u recommend considering catalyset a myth belt into haste mastery one.
And running sim for boots vs tier hands?

[inner saffron]

We on the edge of the building

[clever belfry]

stop

edging

[tardy lark]

https://tenor.com/view/hermes-bender-do-a-flip-futurama-gif-8744413

[chrome plover]

Sim question

[winter fossil]

it simmed shit :p

all what sims is recommending the belt, on recent or full max

but the only thing holding me back is that boots are BIS

and on the long run if I max it the diff in sim is 2 k only

Belt > Boots in 2k

[tardy lark]

a socket is 2-3k

[hasty sapphire]

top left and bottom right both 0.4 ST and top left 0.7 MT still dont know

[clever belfry]

Take neck frfr

[tardy lark]

save big crest

[hasty sapphire]

ye

got that raid weapon already

[brazen estuary]

do i need to set loot spec to Arms in order to get 2H weapon drops from the vault as Fury?

[hasty sapphire]

yes

fury can get 1 hand

[clever belfry]

You dont need, but it is highly advised

[brazen estuary]

ok thx guys

i fucked it up the last couple resets then 😄

[fading sky]

neck ?

[hasty sapphire]

still dont know weapon is "Bis" you but simming worse

[fading sky]

bis if u have the perfect stats for it

bis list matches eachother thats why

still sitting on a HC weapon here though

so

[chrome plover]

if you have a myth weapon i'd take the neck

[hasty sapphire]

yea goit myth weapn and crafted one

[fading sky]

how many finery for an upgrade to dmg again?

12 or 16?

[storm rune]

16 i tink

[fading sky]

id prob take neck no matter what ngl

unless u have a maxxed crested neck allready

[hasty sapphire]

nah neck is the emergency chain on 623

[fading sky]

ye its a no contest then ?

fully upgraded super rare item

?

[chrome plover]

16

[fading sky]

vs weap

[hasty sapphire]

guess

[chrome plover]

yep

for sure

[slow quiver]

whats the best sim option for mythic broodtwister?

[fading sky]

i got neck on HC

i think ill prob take it

[chrome plover]

i would just sim single target in the talents you're running

and consider double on use if it's an option and you're playing AM

[slow quiver]

yeah just got mythic mark of khadros in my box and thinking about taking it for that

[chrome plover]

boss damage is more important and you dont need to minmax gear for adds

[slow quiver]

true

[sullen cloak]

Can I ask a quick question please?

I have an Ara Kara Sac in Valut, mythic track which on first glance seemed wonderful! Currently running Heroic Treacherous Transmitter and Mythic Corrosive Organ

However when I sim it, its a 9K upgrade on single target 5min fight / almost break even on 2 min but a massive DPS loss on mutli target

Does that fit the sims as Bloodmallet has it way above Corrosive ORgan on multi target?

[chrome plover]

can you link both sims? for my character, even a 626 sacbrood sims a lot better than a mythic corrosive organ on any setup

[sullen cloak]

sure 1 second, thank you

5 Mins 1 Target

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2QESHAnhDPVvbSCVUKiR9D

1.5 Mins - 5 Boss - Trying to SIm for Mythic+/ AOE

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fNxvXxVHRP7poWauTNMZia

[iron kernel]

Or socket?)

i have 639 both

and 626 transmitter

[chrome plover]

i would guess it's because the 1.5 min sim gets to use both trinkets within that, whilst across multiple pulls the sacbrood has a chance to keep up

double on use always sims very well on short sims

remember on the following pull within 2 minutes the corrosive organ is nothing but a stat stick whilst sacbrood is still at full value

and ycorrosive organ isnt multiplying your damage in cooldowns like transmitter

[chrome plover]

socket probably

going by your trinkets already

[gilded pawn]

on use trinkets are overvalued in short sims

[iron kernel]

yeahm looks like it would be better. If that trinkets drop from M+, mb i took it because or rare and mb would be some changes

[honest karma]

How do you guys feel about this ring? i still need myth track tier gloves btw

[lost gale]

do we want this or the shard from stonevault? ive seen different guides with different trinkets

[calm hemlock]

sim

[sullen cloak]

Simmed the AOE with Sacbrood for shorter and it DPS difference gets bigger and biggger so for AOE it is a huge loss

So is it reasonable to assume Sacbrood only for longer single target encounters?

[calm hemlock]

sim

[honest karma]

You didn't answer my question

it was how YOU feel about it

i can't sim that

[lost gale]

i dont have the SV trinket i dont know how to do add item that i dont own to it

[bronze elm]

quick question: Why do top fury warrs in M+ pick Khardros/Skarmorak over Transmitter?

[honest karma]

guess it's just easier to use

i know i swapped mine out for shard because it was annoying

[lost gale]

yea i have transmitter and im just tired of it sadly i couldnt find the skarmorak yet lol

[sullen cloak]

What do you think Bud. Based on my Gear are my assumptions correct

[chrome plover]

sac is big

ignore 1.5min aoe sim with double on use

and also gz

[sullen cloak]

So sims are a bit skewed then?

TY

[chrome plover]

sims arent skewed, but you are never just doing a 1.5 minute aoe fight