Is it worth pushing for it without a team?
#fury
random raptor
smoky vale
its playable
celest sierra
That’s like what all 15s?
smoky vale
its like 13s and 14s atm
tardy lark
for eu right now
random raptor
Worth is up to you to decide
Ok Banezi, just for you I will try get CE and title for the first time since starting wow mid df
oblique trail
I believe in you 👍
smoky vale
smoky vale
CE I heard you just get for free every tier
idk man
the problem is getting into a guild
oblique trail
If you're even just remotely able to press buttons, you can find a CE capable guild
tardy lark
getting into a competent one is the bigger hurdle
oblique trail
Just look at @tardy lark
radiant plank
Have you tried applying
smoky vale
hmm
warm crag
the problem is getting into a guild
i disagree (last time i looked for a guild without nepotism was in 2016)
radiant plank
getting into a competent one is the bigger hurdle
Those dont exist
tardy lark
yeah i just stumbled into CyaThursday
smoky vale
maybe i reapply if this guild gets hardstuck brood for like 3 weeks
random raptor
Would the new raid buff make it easier to achieve compared to previous tiers
I assume so?
smoky vale
yues
tardy lark
Those dont exist
relatively they do, objectively they dont 
smoky vale
but its still mech check
oblique trail
Remains to be seen how much they'll nerf mechanics by
stone juniper
Ouu warrior disc banter or chatter 🐸 🍵 👌🏽
warm crag
Would the new raid buff make it easier to achieve compared to previous tiers
probably not
stone juniper
Wholesome chatter
random raptor
Once brood dies, my guild just needs to make last 3 hp hit 0
oblique trail
More damage won't help you if you can't do the mechanics that instawipe you
random raptor
warm crag
12 guilds
random raptor
only 12? really
warm crag
yeah that boss was a toughie
radiant plank
1450 guilds
tardy lark
i'd like to see more get CE honestly
stone juniper
Once brood dies, my guild just needs to make last 3 hp hit 0
Isn’t the only difference between mythic and heroic a single aoe scatter mechanic 🤔
tardy lark
but it also dislike killing a hard boss right after nerfs
oblique trail
i'd like to see more get CE honestly
But my special achievement FUCK
warm crag
i'd like to see more get CE honestly
i want the cutoff to be exactly 1 wr under my guild!
stone juniper
I’m just a backseat gamer washed ree ree 🙂
solemn plover
tardy lark
is he just talking to himself or
oblique trail
but it also dislike killing a hard boss right after nerfs
This is how I felt with brood nerfs
tardy lark
i want the cutoff to be exactly 1 wr under my guild!
hard agree
radiant plank
i'd like to see more get CE honestly
Aberrus was 1799 guilds
oblique trail
We could've killed and was close to, right before the nerfs
tardy lark
Aberrus was 1799 guilds
the closer to 2k i think the better
oblique trail
Then we go in an 1 tap basically post nerfs
tardy lark
This is how I felt with brood nerfs
ye same
we just decided to not bother before nerfs, which im also annoyed abouyt
stone juniper
hard agree
Ye 😔 I’ll look myself out GN yall ❤️
radiant plank
the closer to 2k i think the better
Like nyalotha wiht 2666guilds or
is that too many
radiant plank
we just decided to not bother before nerfs, which im also annoyed abouyt
Astronomically happy we killed before nerfs
oblique trail
Nyalotha lasted for eternities
radiant plank
last boss I fully progged this tier tho 
oblique trail
So not surprised that tier had a lot of CEs
tardy lark
i dont think theres a "too many" as long as content gets nerfed week over week. I think sub 2k in an almost 6 month tier is an atrocity
tardy lark
last boss I fully progged this tier tho <:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
going in as second warrior in a new place is rough
radiant plank
going in as second warrior in a new place is rough
Very rough
oblique trail
Tell me about it
radiant plank
Didnt help I got very unlucky in splits
tardy lark
Rode bench until i rolled rogue most of S3 because of Walli xd
oblique trail
Until your cowarrior stops playing the game
tardy lark
Until your cowarrior stops playing the game
ill come bench you
oblique trail
You're welcome to 👍
tardy lark
fk
warm crag
that CE never ended or
tardy lark
nah, it continued with people selling 100% mounts
warm crag
nah, it continued with people selling 100% mounts
this is how i got mine .. (we didnt sell we just got everyone the mount)
tardy lark
this is how i got mine .. (we didnt sell we just got everyone the mount)
reee you arent allowed to have a cool mount i have because i got it earlier than you
warm crag
i never used it !!!
tardy lark
you arent allowed to anyway
warm crag
grr!
warm crag
fading bane
tardy lark
gotta move bro
radiant plank
smoky vale
how much longer do i wait to find a guild if we are stuck brood
tardy lark
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1139166048583700582/...
thats one of those "my honest reaction" caption gifs
undone flower
Like nyalotha wiht 2666guilds or
Nyalotha almost lasted a full year
warm crag
how much longer do i wait to find a guild if we are stuck brood
just prog it with them or
warm crag
noob
smoky vale
and i have been here since
warm crag
(boss is hard)
compact siren
Is it the eggs?
radiant plank
doubt
oblique trail
we havent amde progress in
Right just to be sure, do you see progress as boss dying, or progress as making it further into the fight
compact siren
Banezi is a liar (he is a truther)
tardy lark
smoky vale
we lost 1 day to wa setup and 1 to person getting into car accident raid day
oblique trail
STOP
warm crag
smoky vale
oblique trail
Freaks
smoky vale
Right just to be sure, do you see progress as boss dying, or progress as making ...
i see that nothing is happening other than same people dying same deaths during 1st or 2nd add set
warm crag
you are the freak since you didnt come do the shift yesterday
46 deaths because you didnt come
oblique trail
Sorry I was in deep depression due to my performance and not killing the queen last night
radiant plank
I dont have it too
oblique trail
Nepotism
warm crag
nepo baby
radiant plank
skyhold missed out on Finnish raiding povs
oblique trail
i see that nothing is happening other than same people dying same deaths during ...
Surely someone has brought this up multiple times by now, if it's a recurring issue
And talked it over with those who constantly die, to figure out what's wrong
radiant plank
Me when personal dont exist
smoky vale
im going to check logs to make sure im not just schizoing
but i dont really know if has been discussed because i just finished trial
only really know 1 person in guild
radiant plank
Bring it up
be the change
your guild needs
worst case you get kicked and have a reason to find new guild
smoky vale
surely this is enough to get a trial
warm crag
too bad sorry
smoky vale
radiant plank
you could trial in 4/8 guilds with only hc logs
warm crag
you need this
radiant plank
(this was me)
smoky vale
you need this
is this a banezi cosplay or?
warm crag
you could trial in 4/8 guilds with only hc logs
i killed zaqul with hc logs oly moly
radiant plank
oly moly
compact siren
you need this
You are SO bad
compact siren
I’m pointing and laughing
warm crag
You are SO bad
log in it is time to garden
compact siren
After yesterday I wish to never garden again
radiant plank
and if it goes to shit talk to gm
No, you open your mic in voice during raid time
clever belfry
i think @young swan should take spongies role away again
smoky vale
thats fucked
warm crag
goodbye purple
calm quartz
chrome plover
radiant plank
Good thing u had goblin jump ready Chawie
shut onyx
we sharing our charge fails?
The Revolver Ocelot technique
chrome plover
Good thing u had goblin jump ready Chawie
unreal onyx
Real
mighty apex
Are there any easy ways of improving my enrage uptime other than "push rampage more", macros, etc?
trim hound
Are there any easy ways of improving my enrage uptime other than "push rampage m...
Push rampage more is 90% of it I think, probably easier with the Powerful Enrage talent since it makes it 1 second longer.
warm crag
you have to be doing something fundamentally wrong to drop enrage
meager void
Are there any easy ways of improving my enrage uptime other than "push rampage m...
Have you tried using Rampage more often?
coarse moon
When should we be using shockwave and storm bolt in m+?
summer quail
coarse moon
Am I griefing teammates if I shockwave and they have interrupt available?
gaunt moat
Am I griefing teammates if I shockwave and they have interrupt available?
depends on the context, too many different possibilities
if in pug? don't trust them and send the stun, if in premade? do you have a kick rotation? do you have an aoe stop rotation?
molten spire
I don't think it's ever a grief to use it in a pull (Except the damn spiders in arakara because you stop their pop)
But you can always be efficient with not stacking stops
coarse moon
This helps thanks
gritty glade
Can definitely grief if aoe stops are needed later on, but now they're all stun immune from DR
hardy cargo
Am I griefing teammates if I shockwave and they have interrupt available?
It’s only grief if you shockwave right as they kick, a wasted kick is large in this expansion because a change was made to where if mob is stunned they just recast but interrupt actually locks them out
coral jewel
am currently using afenar warrior weakaura, but not really like the placements. Any other weakaura that does the trick?
narrow narwhal
Luxthos also has one
sly slate
am currently using afenar warrior weakaura, but not really like the placements. ...
Luxthos. It’s easy to configure and to change things your own way
In some degree ofc
sudden thicket
Can't you move the WAs around in the list to re-order them
smoky vale
yeah
coral jewel
oh enraged regen works with ravager BT procs?
mossy fox
yes
chrome plover
yes
eager thorn
oh enraged regen works with ravager BT procs?
Bladestorm too
storm vapor
Yes bladestorm is healing CD
wary fjord
saves you when u pull aggro 
forest ginkgo
I like popping enraged regen on ovi'nax while spinning sometimes. Big time save if i get hit by a swirlie or just really need to clear the absorb
But i try to save it for when i feel like i really need that DR and healing
coarse nest
I do the same that way I can guarantee I hit as many of the mobs as possible without worrying about hp bar
forest ginkgo
I do the same that way I can guarantee I hit as many of the mobs as possible wit...
Exactly
You can be a biiit greedier then
warm crag
at what haste level does vers start being better
figuring out what stats you want is a bit more complicated than that so you should just use raidbots to figure out what gear to wear
tardy lark
i think <@137363315817971712> should take spongies role away again
blatant favoritism
riot
tardy lark
at least its easy to pug that dungeon
queen tapir
almost failed it
tardy lark
SV or GB is much more of a pain
latent gust
figuring out what stats you want is a bit more complicated than that so you shou...
ok cool
left tapir
hey does anybody have wekauras to track bloodcraze and slaughtering strikes?
couldnt find any of em
chrome plover
any good weakaura pack will track bloodcraze at least
you can just yoink one out of one of those
warm crag
you don't need to track either of them anymore
left tapir
whys that
warm crag
i don't think you can arrive at the bloodcraze bb conditional anymore if u dont skip bb during reck
chrome plover
slaughtering strikes never impacted your rotation
warm crag
they just dont impact your rotation lol
left tapir
how about bloodcraze
chrome plover
what spongie said is about bloodcraze
left tapir
i do need to see the amount of crit bloodthirst is recieving right
ahh i seee
so no point
warm crag
its probably still maybe worth tracking but i cant imagine the dps differential being worth caring abt
rancid osprey
No point really tracking it but as said, most WA packs you find will track it
latent gust
yeah i mean no matter what ur hitting bloodbath so there isnt really a point
teal pine
Could also just very easily make a little text wa for bloodcraze stacks if you really wanted to
Don’t really need to go looking through whole wa packs for that
buoyant island
should i use opportunist or fierce followthrough on the slayer tree
fervent yoke
Idk what to alt im about to just make another warrior
compact siren
its probably still maybe worth tracking but i cant imagine the dps differential ...
Why do you play mage?
warm crag
Why do you play mage?
i had to reroll no one invited me (a warrior) to +6s
compact siren
I see
fervent yoke
I can attest that invites for dps warr are a bitch to get
fading sky
Use shield👌
compact siren
Smf fury with a shield goes hard
summer crater
This is when you get a myth track version in the vault next reset
worldly lily
Guys, Am I able to prepare a single macro button for the rotation? I have a difficulty if I have Crusing/Raging blow due to similar arts, so I thought of macro where I could incorporate it like that:
What are your thoughts, is it going to work properly?
warm crag
just press it and find out or
jovial mauve
its 2 buttons
warm crag
and no you cannot solve your rotation with one macro
jovial mauve
just press them both fast
summer crater
Bring back old tbc 1 button hunter macro
worldly lily
shiiit its working 😄
jovial mauve
Hey guys will this make my opener better?
jovial mauve
drifting barn
There we go
jovial mauve
I dont even have slam on my action bar, does this make me a bad fury warrior
drifting barn
It's like barely ahead of pressing ww or tc in single target
I don't think most people use slam once they get past like level 12
chrome plover
I have slam on my single target talents action bars 
jovial mauve
but do you use it
chrome plover
I pressed it 4 times on mythic kyveza
chrome plover
and it did 0.14% of my damage
summer crater
Don't forget heroic leap
chrome plover
step 1: get more gear
drifting barn
Probably has to do with uptime and how clean the fight was
warm crag
you did roughly the same damage in both logs no?
drifting barn
If shit hits the fan and you can't keep smacking the boss, you lose your parse
summer crater
Yeah, this could just be about what happens in the fight overall
narrow narwhal
What boss was that
jovial mauve
down 200k in log 2
drifting barn
Also random mechanic selection will hurt
chrome plover
no context really
warm crag
yeah the fight is also 1:15 longer and we have no idea what fight that is
jovial mauve
mythic blood
drifting barn
If that's Kyveza, for instance, and you kept getting the portals and lines
warm crag
would be more fair if you limited the damage graph to the same timeframe
narrow narwhal
Meh, idc about mythic blood horror logs. As long as everyone is doing their job the boss falls over
drifting barn
Parses on that fight probably highly depend on how well the parasites are managed
narrow narwhal
Different fight
warm crag
i mean ye u look at a boss defined by how much you can pad adds and then look at two logs with two seperate lengths and complain the damage isn't the same
summer crater
Parses on that fight probably highly depend on how well the parasites are manage...
We get quite low on Ulgrax because the adds are almost killed one by one
🤣
jovial mauve
I wasnt complaining the damage wasn't the same, I just want to be more consistent. just a pattern I see in general with my own gameplay
my first expac raiding on fury
drifting barn
Do the same comparison with boss damage
narrow narwhal
On that fight you are essentially holding CDs for the adds
warm crag
i understand what you're saying but you picked a terrible example to show what you mean
narrow narwhal
I get sent to do the single add, which I happily do because I just want the crests and myth track gear
warm crag
fury is extremely cd window driven in this raid so your best bet is to go look up what other ppl did that did well and then just do that
dont need to innovate this late into the season
chrome plover
that fight is cringe i just send cds on pull
narrow narwhal
Your performance on broodtwister, rash, and sikran are more indicative of your performance
sage karma
and then we kill when I have a log like this
You're obviously going to have significantly higher parses on a wipe than a kill since the fight will be way shorter than average
narrow narwhal
On blood horror I'm holding CDs to see which side will be doing adds and they should align with every add set from then on
sage karma
first, you're 623 and parsing average for that ilvl, just learn when to use your CDs better, use combat pots, beg the priest for PI maybe
and gear up
warm crag
do not beg for pi lol
sage karma
why not
warm crag
because you're griefing the raid if you do that?
drifting barn
I don't think PI is particularly effective for us
It's better used on other classes
jovial mauve
You're obviously going to have significantly higher parses on a wipe than a kill...
yeah, I dont have multiple kills logged on this boss to compare. was my first kill yesterday but I get your point. Was more frustrated since half the encounters i'm beating the bm hunter and half he's beating me
narrow narwhal
jovial mauve
and I just want to shit talk
drifting barn
Unless you're deep into farm and nothing matters
warm crag
its fine to chase parses but dont advise people to do that in a class discord
esp if they're progging bloodbound they have more important things to worry about than having someone ask for a useless pi
drifting barn
I also wouldn't worry about parsing on your first kill; you are pretty unlikely to get a great parse until you're in farm and the entire raid is super clean
compact siren
The pi will fix everything
drifting barn
I'm not disagreeing with you there, you beautiful warrior
compact siren
That’s why you should go mage!!!
jovial mauve
how do I beat the "floorrior" allegations
drifting barn
You don't, embrace them
oblique trail
okay log in
log in it's Deadmines time
drifting barn
It's class identity
warm crag
press one of the buttons that make you one of the tankiest classes in the game
honest karma
Gonna try arms on sikran today
drifting barn
Also hit spell reflect waaay more often than you think you should
sage karma
There's nothing wrong with asking for PI if you're #1 dps and the better classes in your raid are doing 20% less damage than you imo
warm crag
none of the defensives are on the gcd ..
narrow narwhal
I had to play out of my mind for broodtwister, only stood in 5 puddles. Which is low compared to all the other hundred attempts
sage karma
But I said MAYBE because it's obviously dependent on context
compact siren
dont tell my raid lead
I’m telling them
sage karma
And he was asking about parsing, not progging
warm crag
There's nothing wrong with asking for PI if you're #1 dps and the better classes...
cba looking into this but a hunter pi on someone thats trolling should still be better than a pi on a good warrior
either way "ask for pi" is never good advice
jovial mauve
to be fair we were on like wipe 30 on blood, so I was worried more about my parse than prog at this point since the fight is pretty easy lol
narrow narwhal
Cringe, worrying about parse on prog
warm crag
how is it decided when you go down
warm crag
just which side gets frontalled first or do you have dedicated groups on who goes down first who goes second
jovial mauve
we started with whatever platform was spawning adds holds aggro, but that eventually changed to same group goes down first each time
warm crag
ok perfect then its just trivial to parse no
pop pull if you're second or pop on adds when you're first
cd sets perfectly line up
hope your tanks are semi humanoid at pulling the tank add to the men
jovial mauve
ya I was second and cds still came back up for add spawn
our offtank gquit after our kill last night so who knows
warm crag
king
compact siren
👑
narrow narwhal
2/8
jovial mauve
no, 2/8M
narrow narwhal
That was mine
chrome plover
I also wouldn't worry about parsing on your first kill; you are pretty unlikely ...
that's what i said when i got hof sarkareth with a 12.6 avg
thick fossil
Considering you can sort of pug the first 4...
chrome plover
narrow narwhal
I get sent to single add. Idgaf
warm crag
I get sent to single add. Idgaf
ok but your guild is hard griefing assigning you to do that ye
jovial mauve
"sort of pug" depends on how much time you have to deal with the "not sort of"
narrow narwhal
It's boss 2, we are 5/8
narrow narwhal
Boss just dies
sage karma
no, 2/8M
Yeah considering how low everyone elses dps is, you're gonna struggle to parse well when the fight is taking 50% longer than average
chrome plover
warm crag
eh slow fight times on first 4 is pretty good for us no
extra add spawns/prolonged execute phsae on sikran
p much impossible to r1 ulgrax without the extra intermission
sage karma
6 minute kill on bb vs 3-3.5
warm crag
bloodbound benefits from extra downstairs phases, rashanan spams extra adds
chrome plover
we killed bloodbound last week just before my group went down
warm crag
i dont think fight length overly impacts ranks on first 4 other than like literal r1-10 parses
chrome plover
if kill was 1 minute longer i did infinity more dps
warm crag
like top 100 parses on bloodbound are anywhere between 3-5 minutes thats p big variance
sage karma
Dunno man, there's no 5+ minute kills on the first half a dozen pages on BB
jovial mauve
not that it matters, but this is probably a better snapshot which is why I'm trying to figure out how to get more consistent
obviously its heroic but still
warm crag
get more gear and press ur cd windows better is probs the most accurate advice rn
you're significantly behind the curve gear wise
jovial mauve
but getting into keys is hard 
I'm sure the cd windows will get better the more times I do boss though
warm crag
can do the prep beforehand if you havent
oblique trail
Prep before a boss is infinite dps increase
warm crag
povs and logs are very easily available
sage karma
I forgot the website's name but there's a site that shows you when the top logs popped their CDs and whatnot
chrome plover
lorrgs
warm crag
for example if @oblique trail prepped ansurek p3 he'd have lived until the final add spawns!
gritty sigil
I'm not the best in the world but if u dm me I can take a look at ur logs today and help.a little for each fight ramm
sage karma
I'm not the best in the world but if u dm me I can take a look at ur logs today ...
What was your first kill on bloodbound like?
oblique trail
for example if <@102464908976730112> prepped ansurek p3 he'd have lived until th...
SHUT UP
gritty sigil
No idea.
warm crag
me when i kill ulgrax 19 times
sage karma
I'm convinced no amount of extra add phases can make up for an extra 3 minutes long kill heh
sage karma
oh, heroic?
gritty sigil
Yeah
chrome plover
yeah you cant have 19 kills on mythic
gritty sigil
This seasons pugs are horrendous
oblique trail
Technically you could
gritty sigil
Ppl still progging first 2 bosses
oblique trail
But you would not be looking very hot in the eyes of Blizzard
gritty sigil
It's crazy
chrome plover
But you would not be looking very hot in the eyes of Blizzard
🏛️
iron portal
Oh god
warm crag
sorry ... i didnt prep it either..
frank rover
I'm not the best in the world but if u dm me I can take a look at ur logs today ...
how tf u parsing on sikran
oblique trail
Do damage
chrome plover
kill it 17 times over
frank rover
banezi
listen here
u little fury warrior
not everyone has a guild to kill bosses in 3 min
which perfectly lines up with our cooldowns
or a shaman
or a priest
chrome plover
not everyone has a guild to kill bosses in 3 min
what about weed number
oblique trail
If your guild kills a boss after 3 minutes then I'm sorry for you
oblique trail
Because that's horrible for warrior
frank rover
chrome plover
this is mythic tho no?
frank rover
ye
chrome plover
the guy who posted his was heroic logs
frank rover
oh was it
frank rover
but its literally same fight almost
coarse nest
chrome plover
but its literally same fight almost
not in time
gritty sigil
first 4 bosses theres hardly a diff
frank rover
tbh rashanan is harder for some classes
undone flower
the 8yard thing
That doesn’t even wipe you now if you fail
frank rover
i actually like mything rashan better than heroic
queen linden
Hard to snag 99's when guilds are mowing mythic bosses down in 3 minutes lol
coarse nest
Exactly
sage karma
That was my entire point
solemn plover
last time i talked to banezi in that tone he sent me this
frank rover
my bloodhound parses r getting worse every raid
undone flower
Hard to snag 99's when guilds are mowing mythic bosses down in 3 minutes lol
It’s like ovinax, you compete against people that are still breaking 4 and 4 eggs in p3 in reclears
frank rover
but my damage is getting better
gritty sigil
this season feels way too reliant at add pad. i looked at queen logs to see what i was doing wrong and everyone in like the top 100 is just in a carry run for more silk and add pad
narrow narwhal
Compliment banezi's pfp like me
gritty sigil
parsing means almost nothing :/
frank rover
i could compliment banezi's diameter
coarse nest
Shoot for purple log that shows you understand your class and how to time cooldowns well for the specific fight
frank rover
and he will still flame me
queen linden
parsing means almost nothing :/
True statement.
sage karma
Parsing in general is really rough this season for all specs
You really have to pad and get a solid group
frank rover
i like parsing to see how i fare in comparison with other warrs
sage karma
getting a good parse in a pug is almost impossible for heroic
gritty sigil
and then like if u actually want to rng parse u need transmitter
narrow narwhal
Heroic parses at this point are a meme
gritty sigil
all parses are a meme, even mythic
sage karma
i like parsing to see how i fare in comparison with other warrs
Yeah gotta make sure you compare similar gear and kill times tho
undone flower
Parsing in general is really rough this season for all specs
Mmmmh will my bladestorm tick more that 2 times on rash trashs mmmmmmh, oh no they disappear in the first gcd !!!!!
gritty sigil
Mmmmh will my bladestorm tick more that 2 times on rash trashs mmmmmmh, oh no th...
literally this
queen linden
Also, since a lot of these fights are add heavy, you're fighting against every other AOE class in your raid for parse.
warm crag
idk you shouldnt be complaining about adds evaporating as a fury warrior
you are literally the spec responsible for that
if someone else hits them before you that is just a failure on you
undone flower
idk you shouldnt be complaining about adds evaporating as a fury warrior
Yes I pre bladestorm so idc
gritty sigil
we have no job now cuz everyone can do it
sage karma
lol
warm crag
no one can snipe adds as well as fury what are you on about
jovial mauve
thats why i'm the only fury warrior in my guild
warm crag
yeah and you should have killed most of the things before everyone gets their damage ramping
gritty sigil
brother everyything dies in 1 gcd
warm crag
everyone else in decent guilds also has 19 other competent people in it that will press their buttons
gritty sigil
u press ur opener and then bladestorm starts after its all dead
warm crag
yes and it is you who kills it in that one gcd
gritty sigil
we aint that strong ._.
chrome plover
fury does most of that 1gcd
nimble ermine
bro
chrome plover
wdym
queen linden
Meanwhile I'm waiting for adds to stack on ulgrax, but everyone is mowing them down 1 by 1 lol
solemn plover
I am
warm crag
maybe you aren't
gritty sigil
we're very strong but not THAT strong xd
undone flower
brother everyything dies in 1 gcd
Except that part where rash spawns adds then adds again
chrome plover
we are the best in the game at that
jovial mauve
idk those guilds should have those people in a more single target spec since fury should be handling add phases no?
solemn plover
i am that strong
nimble ermine
we are very strong, but not that strong
solemn plover
Spomgiewarr blasts aoe as fury
gritty sigil
queen silks
nimble ermine
which way is it
sage karma
even queen silks don't just insta die
gritty sigil
insta pops
sage karma
they die fast, but not 1 gcd from 1 guy
queen linden
what adds are you fighting that die in 1gcd from one fury
Rash adds, queen webs
warm crag
aside from most webs being immuned in mythic you still have the best damage pattern to blow them up
oblique trail
They die insta in mythic because you immune them 👍
queen linden
Running double fury in my mythic group. I'm basically fighting the other guy for parses
gritty sigil
ugh yeah when i see another fury i gotta call 911 on his house to get him out
narrow narwhal
Just do better
sage karma
Not to mention if you have any other spec with good instant aoe they'll literally halve your dps on those adds
queen linden
Just do better
There's only so much health to go around lol.
narrow narwhal
Just do better
queen linden
Pre popping BS on brood adds.
gritty sigil
pre popping bs makes no sense tho
warm crag
me when i dont roar brood adds and do literally zero dps
gritty sigil
why would u use bs without ur buffs
narrow narwhal
Roar Odyn's BS
coarse nest
On first kill you shouldn’t care about anything other than killing the boss,
On reclear kills raid lead can designate certain people to try and log well and everyone else blasts boss.
In my experience I’ve never had a raid lead designate people to parse so I guess you’d just have to find a team who cares about that sort of thing
queen linden
Nah, I'm focused on parsing pull 1.
warm crag
you most certainly do not need to be in parse runs to parse 99s in mythic
chrome plover
absolutely not
coarse nest
You can get good rng too for sure
oblique trail
I was in a speed rank guild briefly
And it was cool to do quick kills but I would not want to be there and actually raid
coarse nest
When you compete against everyone trying to aoe pad it’s less likely to log well
queen linden
Wanna know wha'ts hard to parse on? Fucking normal difficulty. All adds are dead before I can get my OF off.
#normalparsesmatter
queen linden
chrome plover
I did normal once
queen linden
Gotta get 99s on all difficulties
narrow narwhal
#normalparsesmatter
jovial mauve
the only thing that matters is beating my guildmates in dps so when they call me a floorrior I can tell them to check details
narrow narwhal
Focus on killing sikran bud
jovial mauve
I will next week
queen linden
Real reason my guild hasn't killed brood yet is because I'm just wiping them 
Not ready to go back to the bottom on princess
jovial mauve
nice and easy prog group i'm not racing for mythic kills lol
queen linden
Gotta enjoy brown bar on top as long as possible
coarse nest
I believe we’re re clearing for some* of the bench this week and then doing princess
queen linden
Surely brood will die this week 
jovial mauve
if I solicit an aug to focus me on and pay him under the table to make up for my shit ilvl maybe that'll do the trick
coarse nest
So close!
My team switched to the strat where we break 3 eggs with lust in p3 then 1 egg by itself
queen linden
Damn holiday boss took us out on thursday.
coarse nest
Once we did that strat we killed in 3 pulls
queen linden
You doing 2 tank I'm assuming?
coarse nest
Yes two BDK
queen linden
word
We kept having issues with our vdh ripping spider aggro in the 2nd area and getting deleted.
coarse nest
Oh yeah I had the same issue but I’m fortunate enough to have 3 paladins on my team so they rotated bop on me for the sets I had every button available
coarse nest
Aug is pretty mid unless they’re super min maxing
jovial mauve
did everyone have the darkmoon damage buff
undone flower
Aug is pretty mid unless they’re super min maxing
We don’t even have an aug, the guy swapped to deva
He was so happy that aug is really meh in raid
coarse nest
It seems like Aug is something you either fully dive into or it’s just mid and sucks to be the one who has to do it lol
nimble ermine
eh its how supports are in games
just specific people get into them
who wants to sit there and be like "omg i love helping my team do more damage"
undone flower
who wants to sit there and be like "omg i love helping my team do more damage"
And then you have a 6 min skarmorak fight
turbid gate
what is better to play vs silken? thane?
vapid mulch
we were missing our aug on the 3.3% wipe
With your Aug it would’ve been a 5.3% wipe
real bay
what best build on m+?
narrow narwhal
Faq
serene stone
for weapon enchants what do yall think stonebound artistry or authority of the depths
maybe i should check faq first to see if my question is answered there
storm rune
from my sims I'm seeing depths for ST, authority for aoe
I suggest looking at your sims to find out for sure
serene stone
so authority of the depths for both ya think
queen tapir
always authority
serene stone
askmrrobot says stonebound artistry but so many people go authority of the depths it has me thinking otherwise...
lone zinc
depths
serene stone
is that bad or something
storm rune
outdated as all
serene stone
oh really?
storm rune
serene stone
not fasicious genuinely asking
frank dawn
Especially at higher key levels the single target gains of double depths is worth it to most people over Radiant
but if you're just an 8-10 level gamer it won't matter as much
serene stone
oh true i didnt think of the double attribute of depths
modest condor
im pretty sure the reason most people use depths is because they're geared for raid and it's too expensive to swap enchants for m+
serene stone
ah so just general all around good for all content you want to pursue
okay i appreciate the responses
modest condor
no it's because for most people raid is more important early in the season so they're gearing for raid
and then when they're done with raid and it's on farm they start optimising their gear for m+
serene stone
oh i see what you mean
too expensive to swap for M+ after already enchanting for raid right
modest condor
yes
serene stone
ty for clarification
storm rune
It's incredibly close
queen tapir
I would think atleast
storm rune
Like for pure ST it's a diff of 20k for me, and in aoe it's a diff of like 40k
barren ore
I just use one of each, never have to think about it again
vapid mulch
I made all my crafted haste mastery and I have a 636/639 haste mastery rings
I think you’re stats for arms wouldn’t be that bad
My arms still sims higher than my fury
queen linden
With your Aug it would’ve been a 5.3% wipe
Lol
thick fossil
I made all my crafted haste mastery and I have a 636/639 haste mastery rings
You'd have good haste for Arms, but crit would be way too low.
turbid gate
I made all my crafted haste mastery and I have a 636/639 haste mastery rings
I have full fury gear,
warm crag
I have full fury gear,
doesnt really matter
sim it if you really care but sikran and kyveza are just bosses where you should play whatever you want
arms should do more damage but is less passively tanky
turbid gate
sim it if you really care but sikran and kyveza are just bosses where you should...
quick sim will be enough?
warm crag
probs ye
storm rune
If it's prog then do what you gotta do, but we're past the mark for needing to min/max for mid tier bosses unless your team is genuinely underperforming
vestal sedge
Does opportunist count for crushing blow or only for raging blow ?
near wing
Where do you guys stack upgrading your crafted piece to 636 vs fully maxing your weekly new mythic piece. I’m crest capped with and have everything fully upgraded. Let’s assume I get mythic legs from vault, does it makes sense spending the 60 crests upgrade it from 626 to 639, or spending that weeks 90 crests on upgrading writs. Alternatively, since one piece usually requires 60 crests to upgrade to max, after 3 weeks I should have enough residual to upgrade crafted piece. Is that the better route?
latent gust
i think fully upgrading bigger stat contributing slots >
undone flower
Where do you guys stack upgrading your crafted piece to 636 vs fully maxing your...
Like your wrists are the worst slot
latent gust
except weapons of course
undone flower
My wrists are still 619
latent gust
legs,helm, chest should be first to be upgraded
latent gust
i might be wrong but thats how i do it
undone flower
They are just there to double your embellish, upgrading it will not change anything
trim hound
Ya, I'll be leaving my wrists for last. They give too little stat
near wing
It’s funny, I fucked up my crest allocation out the gate and am now just gated every week by the 90 crests. I leveled a mage last weekend, am already 621, and have a direct path to 633 w/o getting crest gated. So my mage that I’ve been playing for a week will soon be higher ilvl then my warrior that I’ve been playing all season
undone flower
Me was ring since it’s the first I got in vault but yes when I got leg/helmet/chest it was this slot I was upgrading
latent gust
my rings are so bad man
undone flower
It’s funny, I fucked up my crest allocation out the gate and am now just gated e...
If you are fresh now, just full crafts 636 (given you don’t plan to myth raid)
near wing
Exactly what I’m doing haha. I’m not really raiding, just M+. So I should cruise to a higher item level, just have to grind the gilded
I’ve found it materially easier to get into groups as mage vs when I was pushing keys on warrior
undone flower
Don’t upgrade a single piece past 619 until you have done with your sparks / 1 item vault per week
near wing
Hahaha yup!
Learned that the hard way on my warrior
But, lesson learned and I know for the future now
undone flower
I got my hunt this week, he is 623 he still has 300+ crests to farm
near wing
I just miss playing on my warrior. Feel like a god in M+ on my warrior, but no content to do right now. Still can’t get into 12s, and don’t have strong guild for mythic raiding content
latent gust
level an alt
near wing
And having fun, but warrior is just in such a good spot right now, I kinda miss it
Yea, I do. A ton haha. I play way too much
latent gust
i leveled a warlock and i hate that shit
near wing
Max leveled in one weekend, and then got it to 621 ilvl in 1 week
And I work about 55 hours a week at my job, so basically have been either working or playing the mage for the past week, with a couple 3 hour naps
near wing
i leveled a warlock and i hate that shit
I played lock in SOD. Loved it. Looks fun, but if I make a 3rd alt, gonna go back to melee
Maybe monk
fringe vale
lock is fun
tbh there is few classes that arent fun it depends playstile and preference tbh
fringe vale
i get you my first pve class was a hunter
i really liked MM in draenor
after that it kinda lost his thing
deft linden
Was looking at some fury warrior logs and noticed one top player farover not using whirlwind, is that a bug on the log?
fringe vale
Was looking at some fury warrior logs and noticed one top player farover not us...
raid or m+
deft linden
M+
fringe vale
nopers
unles u really ahve like nothing
everything is on cd
or u wanna charge weave
knotty lotus
deft linden
Ahhh okay ty
tacit sluice
Don't put ww on bars with thane, just put clap in that button.
fringe vale
i have a scenario: lets say u are in ulgraxx M, after the first intermission, there is like 45s left for next intermission and u get all ur cds back, do u send or do u save?
i feel sometimes lose dmg bc i overthink to much
tacit sluice
i have a scenario: lets say u are in ulgraxx M, after the first intermission, th...
Send, zug zug.
fringe vale
Don't put ww on bars with thane, just put clap in that button.
it has its uses tho, like charge weave
tacit sluice
If you need aoe more often like ovinax then go AM and fully commit to it.
tacit sluice
it has its uses tho, like charge weave
Not worth the effort.
fringe vale
If you need aoe more often like ovinax then go AM and fully commit to it.
ovinax is not a problem its rlly straight forward and cd's are always up when u need them unless smt happened
its on fights with intermissions phases with adds that get me overthinking
i feel when i overthink i fuck up, and sometimes i do not
so im not sure really bc i cant rlly compare with top logs since kill timers aren't the same
tacit sluice
ovinax is not a problem its rlly straight forward and cd's are always up when u ...
It's not about being a problem it's about worth
Adds are important on ovinax, on ugrax not really a problem.
fringe vale
Adds are important on ovinax, on ugrax not really a problem.
yeah totally get that, im talking for farm reclears to get op parses
tacit sluice
Not worth saving the CDs
tacit sluice
yeah totally get that, im talking for farm reclears to get op parses
Do they even count?
fervent barn
How bad is smf
fringe vale
for my personal ego? yes.
queen tapir
dog shit
tacit sluice
for my personal ego? yes.
I mean in the parse.
fringe vale
I mean in the parse.
the adds? they do
fervent barn
Why every 2h weapon gotta be extremely clunky and oversized
fringe vale
on every fight
tacit sluice
on every fight
Not all
latent gust
i need to work on my princess parse man
granite violet
Why every 2h weapon gotta be extremely clunky and oversized
because a not so smart guy once said "size is everything"
tacit sluice
Well not all damage counts.
fringe vale
Well not all damage counts.
so far the only thing i know doesnt count is webbed players in rashanan
fervent barn
I just want a couple mirahs song sized swords on my hip, 1h transmog when
tacit sluice
With the nerf
thick fossil
Oh shit did that text not duplicate?
fringe vale
i hhad a for sure orange parse cooking on her and got 3 lasers
does ur guild tells u to not overextend the dmg and isntantly go out to position for orbs? or are u allowed to extend dmg and then leap away?
thick fossil
How bad is smf
I deleted the first reply by mistake. SMF is bad. It's the same game play, just less dps.
fringe vale
thats why, u gotta put laser into position without leap, reflect dash, def stance charge back in then leap away when daggers start going off
fervent barn
I deleted the first reply by mistake. SMF is bad. It's the same game play, just ...
rip
latent gust
thats why, u gotta put laser into position without leap, reflect dash, def stanc...
or
or
just wait till i get no lasers
rofl
fringe vale
def stance is for peace of mind, bc sometimes spot healing in that fight lacks
burnt crow
the more you know
fringe vale
its for the 20% reduced magic dmg
near wing
it has its uses tho, like charge weave
What is charge weave?
fringe vale
the dot hurts like hell
fringe vale
What is charge weave?
its when u jump away and charge back in mid fight
to generate that 20 rage
near wing
Ah
fringe vale
when ure dissengaging before charging, u drop a ww mid path, then u charge
thick fossil
What is charge weave?
Not so much needed as Fury, but it's running away from target and charging back in for rage generation.
fringe vale
Not so much needed as Fury, but it's running away from target and charging back ...
in ovinaxx its rlly worth to up ur rampages
spare flame
is there like a blacklist addon or something? this prot pally just joined our 10 grim and bricked it and left
thick fossil
I've never been rage starved as Fury.
teal pine
It’s good to do with AM.
Especially if you aren’t getting reck back when you need it
queen tapir
charge weaving ?
teal pine
Yea
teal pine
It’s a lot of extra rage to feed into cdr
queen tapir
when you are just walking back and you charge back in
sullen dove
You would only rly do it when you run out of rb and bt
Like hitting ww st sucks
but if you’re like 2 seconds off from either ability and need rage can do a quick lil walk out spamming charge till it hits
exotic cradle
hey guys, on logs, does the odyns fury effect when popping avatar appear on it? or does it only show when the actual ability is used?
exotic cradle
so as an example, avatar was used, it is initially from using avatar, then towards the end it is the usable odyns?
crude ridge
That would be your cast of odyns not avatar
as far as I know it doesn't show the cast of odyns from avatar
fringe reef
Is dungeon slice a reliable sim at all for fury? Just looking to get some numbers for dungeons
gilded pawn
It’s not a “cast” yeah
gilded pawn
Is dungeon slice a reliable sim at all for fury? Just looking to get some number...
Dungeon slice is not representative of any single dungeon
You’ll never be close to the slice dps
exotic cradle
okay thanks guys, so that cast is the actual odyns cast, thank you
queen tapir
o shit
crude ridge
okay thanks guys, so that cast is the actual odyns cast, thank you
correct that is you pressing odyns
exotic cradle
❤️
fringe reef
Dungeon slice is not representative of any single dungeon
Better off just simming 4 target dummies or something then to get decent aoe numbers
gilded pawn
There’s really no reason to compare sim dps to actual dps to gauge performance
crude ridge
Better off just simming 4 target dummies or something then to get decent aoe num...
Best thing you could do is to just go with the basic aoe build and use aoe trinkets. No point in trying to sim aoe for dungeons as each run varies.
chilly fractal
Domo Arigato Sim is Roboto
lone zinc
Domo Arigato Sim is Roboto
hard warren
fervent yoke
Honestly how much dps am I losing for not playing around ashen juggernaut on ST slayer? I basically only execute with x3 marked or if the mob won’t live enough for x3 stacks
Refreshing ashen with x1 or x2 stacks of marked feels counterproductive
narrow narwhal
Sim it
modest condor
that's something you would have to change the apl for to figure out which i dont think someone asking that question knows how to do
shell folio
what builds are you guys using in m+???
radiant plank
Keeping up my execute damage buffs whilst still getting cdr reduce on my bladestorm feels counterproductive?
shell folio
atm iam using this
heavy dock
not bad ig but i feel like i should be way higher in a necrotic 10
altho we had 2 wipes on a trash pack lol
gilded flicker
atm iam using this
i was thinking here, vicious contempt, i need to pick that
i left out ahck and slash
sullen dove
not bad ig but i feel like i should be way higher in a necrotic 10
Eh I mean 1.7 pretty high with two other dps that aren’t necessarily trolling themselves
Higher number just kinda yea not wiping and also pulling bigger can help
heavy dock
yeh pulls werent that big
gilded flicker
not bad ig but i feel like i should be way higher in a necrotic 10
VC ou hack and slash on that build s?
tribal ridge
is warrior just really bad rn? I keep getting declined from m+ groups constantly idk whats going on
heavy dock
VC ou hack and slash on that build s?
i dont think there any point ut ake off hns
left elk
is warrior just really bad rn? I keep getting declined from m+ groups constantly...
Prob cuz affix idk
ornate sable
is warrior just really bad rn? I keep getting declined from m+ groups constantly...
You are competing with 40 players, you should clarify if you’re declined or groups fill
heavy dock
VC ou hack and slash on that build s?
just the most basic ra thane build
fervent yoke
Keeping up my execute damage buffs whilst still getting cdr reduce on my bladest...
Yeah cause sometimes I’m eating marked of execution with only 1 or 2 stacks not 3 to refresh ashen
Which feels counterproductive
And clunky
smoky vale
well you just follow the prio
fervent yoke
This is what wowhead says in the guide:
- Execute with 3x Marked for Execution or to refresh Ashen Juggernaut
So do I refresh ashen if it’s about to expire and I have say 1 stack of marked not 3? But in the guide it says 3… it doesn’t really clarify
hallow remnant
OR to refresh
smoky vale
it does
fervent yoke
Alright damn was hoping I didn’t need to track oh well
smoky vale
the amount of mfe does not matter on the second condition
fervent yoke
Understood thank you Gio
sinful kraken
Why are people using sacbrood on mythic brood?
And not khardros & skamrorak
You'd have one trinket for every add phase
Sacbrood seems stupid to use
chilly fractal
Stupid is an odd term to use
sinful kraken
Not as good*
Adds are the biggest challenge of the fight. Why not have a powerful trinket for every single add phase?
chilly fractal
If your guild needs it then run it
deep jetty
Double on use is not something a lot of ppl want to run
chilly fractal
^
young swan
people probably didnt farm 2 on use aoe exclusive trinkets
short silo
you can technically just use whatever youre comfortable with, at this point the boss is beeing outgeared and dmg aint an issue anyway. At least not that the trinket choice matters
sinful kraken
How good is Larynx for fury?
sinful kraken
Ok so 639 larynx is probably better than 626 khardros for this fight
Skamrorak + 639 larynx sounds juice
young swan
i feel like the khardros contributes the more meaningful damage
sinful kraken
Ok
I'm a prot warrior being forced into fury for brood twister so I'm seeking advice
young swan
ur just there to destroy adds and larynx doesnt really help with that
sinful kraken
Roger that
eternal sundial
I didnt x2 on use cuz i wanted brainpower for transmitter and swirls
eternal sundial
I can play double on use for rekill ig
But we are so overkilling adds now
No point xd
pure cairn
how does warrior prevent getting rooted on M ansurek? is it reflect?
modest condor
yes
pure cairn
thank u!
humble plover
0
woven wharf
can someone explain to me why the best crafted weapon should have vers mast but our best stats are mast haste?
fickle bluff
because "best stats" dont exist
oblique trail
It's just the best spread of stats in the absolute bis setup to have vers/mast
sudden tusk
oblique trail
For you specifically it might be haste/mast
humble plover
rate my hunter drip
Same energy as the "look at my hellscream mog with Gorehowl 
"
coarse nest
can someone explain to me why the best crafted weapon should have vers mast but ...
If you only want to spend the gold once just craft vers/mastery and know that you might be missing out on some dps
Depends how much min max matters to you
Also it’s unlikely that you’ll have perfect gear, even by the end of the season
That’s why it’s always recommended to sim yourself
Like already suggested
azure badger
So what's the deal with Augs ebon might in logs. Is it correctly contributing damage back to the evoker or are ppl getting juiced just going to parse higher?
sudden tusk
give up having aug ever correctly attributed
edgy oasis
gathering clouds or thorims might - AM Thane - surely gathering clouds is better
sullen dove
give up having aug ever correctly attributed
But is it stealing from you or giving more to you is the important question…
the cancelaura ebon might macro is ready if need be
south kayak
ebon might should just increase damage by % instead of primary stat
coarse nest
You know that sounds like it would probably be better honestly
serene vessel
gilded pawn
ebon might should just increase damage by % instead of primary stat
the only problem with that is then the aug's stats dont matter
primary stat isnt the problem with calculation
there are some minor issues that adds up
compact knot
Ok so 639 larynx is probably better than 626 khardros for this fight
sorry for late reply but are these the same cd trinket?
2 min cd
hmm
you can use both tbh, depends on what your passive trinket is
you just need to use larynx whenever it comes up
sinful kraken
you can use both tbh, depends on what your passive trinket is
Would it be btter to run Sacbrood than Larynx? + Skarmorak
And is this cast sequence macro good for fury in PvE?
I was using it for Arena
oblique trail
Don't use cast sequences please
south kayak
the only problem with that is then the aug's stats dont matter
Then damage percentage based on his stats?
compact knot
Would it be btter to run Sacbrood than Larynx? + Skarmorak
really i guess it depends on what YOU think is more important
sinful kraken
really i guess it depends on what YOU think is more important
Padding on Adds
oblique trail
As for your trinkets, you could honestly use any combination of what you mentioned, I personally used Sacbrood and Transmitter even when the 2x on-use would've technically been a lot more important
compact knot
ok, then run sacbrood and skarmorak/transmitter/gb trinket
sinful kraken
ok, then run sacbrood and skarmorak/transmitter/gb trinket
How is that better than double on-use for padding on adds
gilded pawn
Then damage percentage based on his stats?
then you get to the problem of giga exponential scaling
class gets way too good late in the expac
compact knot
How is that better than double on-use for padding on adds
because you mentioned larynx which splits the damage, and since it splits the damage it gains very little on AOE
sinful kraken
because you mentioned larynx which splits the damage, and since it splits the da...
oh ok
compact knot
the best on use trinkets for brood are the ones that give you stats when used
gilded pawn
the way its done currently makes it approximately the same %dps up given similar ilevels between aug and the other player
sinful kraken
the best on use trinkets for brood are the ones that give you stats when used
And we're playing spear over roar on Brood?
compact knot
so if you want to go full pad you run the 3 mentioned before, in my opinion sacbrood + a on use is much better imo though
compact knot
And we're playing spear over roar on Brood?
play roar
sinful kraken
ok
oblique trail
And we're playing spear over roar on Brood?
The only bosses you use Spear on is Sikran, Princess and Court
compact knot
is spear on court the play
oblique trail
You can play either one, though majority of your damage is in the damage amps
Didn't really prog it enough as Fury before we killed to experiment with both
compact knot
id figure you just run short troar and do mini bursts each damage amp
maybe thats bad tho
oblique trail
You give up ATTT for that
Most simply run 1:30 roar, if they do run it (only a few used Spear)
Though as I mentioned, didn't get to do enough pulls to really tell if it was worth or not
compact knot
ATTT is a lot more str than i thought
oblique trail
1 point is like 2.5k-3k strength or something for me last I looked
reef fulcrum
Hello, one question i have a macro #showtooltip Rampage
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage