#fury

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edgy widget
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it has better ST damage, the prio damage... I'm not entirely sure - I think it was @modest condor who identified a reporting issue that makes Thane's prio look higher than it is (no impact on actual damage, just how it's distributed among multiple targets in the sim)

hollow mirage
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ty ^^

edgy widget
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you can stun or interrupt the blood to break out of it

hollow mirage
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awesome ty ^^

edgy widget
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there's also a very tight window in which you can leap during the pull to negate it without touching blood at all, but I really don't recommend it in anything other than the most dire of emergencies

wispy dock
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are you guys doing more AM thane or RA thane for 12+ keys?

storm rune
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Your character does a little "hop" and then you can leap, generally around a little less than a second left on the cast

wispy dock
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any reasoning? i played both they b oth seem pretty decent

storm rune
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Because I hate AM

wispy dock
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valid reason lol

storm rune
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You'll see a mix of both in the highest keys, this last balance passover has us in legitimately good spots no matter what your preference

restive peak
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AM Thane cranks and is the most fury fury has felt all tier

chilly fractal
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which is wild... because when is the last time Fury ever used Thunder Clap

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I can't think of a time off hand

hard widget
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If its the most fury fury that fury has ever fury'd that sounds like a build to play

coral jewel
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What are the opinions on Keep feet on ground / Steadfast as the peaks?

hot topaz
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i'm 626 ilvl and really struggling to break the 1.2-1.3 mil overall ceiling in keys. wihout taking a deep dive and logging or recording a dungeon, what could i be missing to break into higher numbers?

sour frigate
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Tank does shit pulls or maybe u die often?

weary sail
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New build??

hot topaz
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its not a tank issue. im playing with a 3k io tank thats a friend of mine.

frank rover
tepid scroll
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Havent played my warrior in a bit. Is slayer still the play or mountain thane?

void willow
tepid scroll
pliant jackal
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Critcake said that he prefers this build for his group

abstract flower
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So I havent played since buffs, is execute still basically filler or is it higher prio now? (in mountain thane atleast)

snow edge
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Just a filler; if you're playing the VC version of Mountain Thane, BT is doing pretty big execute damage anyway

coral jewel
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on thane you should go on lowest hp(execute range?) right we dont really have debuffs on targets or do we?

abstract flower
tall raft
snow edge
coral jewel
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does that mean you swap to targets below 35%?

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or still stay on prio?

snow edge
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Situation dependent; if there's a prio mob that really needs to die, you'd obviously stay on that

weary sail
snow edge
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Otherwise probably snipe higher BTs on low mobs

abstract flower
coral jewel
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Deft Experience maybe

young swan
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drop OF

abstract flower
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then how do you get to ravager?

young swan
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swift strikes

snow edge
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You don't have OF, like Xan said

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So you can go Swift

abstract flower
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OH! shiii

snow edge
abstract flower
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is it cope or the secret sauce? Im down to try it but I dont see anyone on raider io doing it Cx

young swan
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its real

warped bone
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It works

snow edge
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Plenty of people are running it; Crit and that bozo @restive peak are

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He does alright

coral jewel
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the difference i havei s powerful enrage instead of frenzied

coral jewel
abstract flower
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is this more raid focus or you running it in m+ too?

snow edge
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If you're running AM, FE is probably going to be better; better synergy

snow edge
coral jewel
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nah im using RA

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so should use FE instead then?

snow edge
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Excluding Silken, you're probably not running Thane anywhere in raid

frozen lake
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Man I feel like in 10s like I run losing OF is too much

coral jewel
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feel like playing with FE is better tbh

snow edge
abstract flower
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I ran it on brood when I was trying to get that ring but ya ik its not a raid spec but its way more fun than slayer imo

restive peak
snow edge
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I mean technically you can run Thane on any boss if you're not trying to min max, it's just that Slayer is better for almost all of them (in some variation)

abstract flower
coral jewel
snow edge
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Frenzied Enrage v. Powerful Enrage

abstract flower
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Ooooo

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I was thinking frenzied enrage but then I was I like thats the guardian druid heal Cx

snow edge
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If you run AM Thane without OF just remember to change the Avatar capstone in the class tree as well

abstract flower
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Berserker Torment over Titan?

young swan
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ur not running OF

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so yes

wanton mirage
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when will Archi start posting this build?

abstract flower
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also, with AM dont u take the CD reduction on Thunder Roar too? or keep Thunerous Words?

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did I do it right? I wanna give it a shot

snow edge
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You're good to go

opaque falcon
abstract flower
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dunno didnt try it yet, the other lads here just made it sound fun so I want to give it a go Cx

weary sail
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he pumps

young swan
vernal night
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someone send me a good m+ build cause everything i see isnt worth a fuck

abstract flower
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go to raider io and see what others are doing

fresh cape
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sims telling me that haste is a dps increase over mastery?

abstract flower
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ok, last question about the no of build, I ran a sim, and it seems you dont just prio BT? do you just play like normal till 50% then prio BT?

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even with burst of power procs?

snow edge
trim tinsel
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Is the build above the main build for m+ now?

snow edge
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It's a possible build; RA Thane and RA Slayer are both still solid / competitive choices, Thane is (arguably) better in M+ though

trim tinsel
eager thorn
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Try it out on target dummies

snow edge
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Probably going to take you more than 1 key to get the hang of it and get a proper picture of how it actually performs

snow edge
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The spec isn't as big and bursty as RA, the idea is that you have CDs up more frequently so your sustained damage pack-to-pack is higher

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Give it a solid go, both RA and AM are competitive for Thane and a lot of it will come down to personal preference / playstyle / how the tank is pulling etc.

daring hare
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Do you guys know if at max ilvl sureki is better than emergency stop keychain

snow edge
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No one can answer that for you; your individual pieces of gear will determine what's best

abstract flower
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same track they sim fairyly equal so I assume higher track of the other would sim better, at least forr me the h track raid neck simed like marginally better than the h track neck from sv

pulsar quest
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Dude

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I love this am thane build

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I’m like looking for any excuse to play it in raid lol

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I tried it on heroic court tonight during boost and it was fun too

young swan
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mythic court

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heroic court

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both sick for thane

pulsar quest
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I’m going to mythic court this week

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So I’ll prob play it there

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But it’s such a good flowing build

last pier
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I def find AM thane more fun than RA but feel like at the key levels im doing rn RA is def the go to. Need to push a little higher to see more gains from AM imo.

am def a v cozy rotation tho lmao

queen tapir
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god damn

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got my anus blasted in a +11

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some how timed though

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did not expect that damage

last pier
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lol hf in 12s

modest condor
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^

queen tapir
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yeah i am doing a siege 12

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ill hit you guys up

modest condor
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3rd boss and last boss are gonna do some scary damage

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hell even the 2nd boss debuff hurts

weary sail
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and then we have people doing +17

eager thorn
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They’re not people

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They’re gamers

queen tapir
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and we fail the 12

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holy

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so 2 wipes and its pretty much certain gg

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i dunno I guess doing +12's on a ilvl 620

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isnt smart lol

rugged hill
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And it sims almost the same with RA @5 targets for me while surprisingly being 250k ahead of RA @ST

queen tapir
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isnt

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steadfast as the peaks better than the left one ?

young swan
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ive been preferring it

queen tapir
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like you have 0 hp other wise no ?

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yeah judging by the damge I have been taking on these keys

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at these degen hours

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ill stick with steadfast

snow edge
queen tapir
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he might be simming more than 5 targets

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it sims higher on 8-10 targets

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weird shit

snow edge
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Well he said ST, so I'd assume he meant.. a ST sim

queen tapir
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oh shit i did not even read that

rugged hill
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20k*

queen tapir
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🤣

rugged hill
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oop

modest condor
edgy widget
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it's better for predictable bursts of damage, as long as you're proactive with it

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it's worse for extended or repeated rot damage, and worse if you're not able to anticipate incoming damage

honest karma
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Failed my first 12 by secondssadge

lament lagoon
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is this poopy

gleaming obsidian
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Who would you go dwarf night elf or gnome ur opinion

lament lagoon
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dwarf for asthtics night elf for meld

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also aesthtics

autumn hull
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orc

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for orc

lament lagoon
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orc for zug

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zug4orc

autumn hull
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^ this guy gets it

honest karma
unreal pagoda
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is arms or fury looking better for M+ rn?

modest condor
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in high keys fury, otherwise i dont think there's really a clear winner in keys below +12

sour frigate
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colossus arms feels good pre 11s

unreal pagoda
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Awesome so I can pretty much play whatever I like more I just recently hit lvl 80

honest karma
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Are you dotting up with rend as arms now?

sour frigate
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u just clap

modest condor
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no you just press thunderclap

sour frigate
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👏

honest karma
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Cool.

unreal pagoda
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is there a huge difference in survavbility between the two specs?

modest condor
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yes

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fury is better and it's not even close

sudden tusk
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this was a 12 ara kara

modest condor
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which is why fury wins in high keys

sudden tusk
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we somehow timed lmao

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tbh i think thane and Slayer are both good, but surv different purposes

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Ara kara i think slayer wins out for sure

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maybe CoT as well

honest karma
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We just failed a 12 AK by secondssadge

young swan
# sudden tusk

12 arakara but the tank just fell over on last boss cause the dk had grippy running during suck

sudden tusk
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we hate dk players

modest condor
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why did 3 people just post about their +12 ara kara within 30 seconds

sudden tusk
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easiest to get into prob

young swan
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i only posted it cause madox did

honest karma
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Me too

modest condor
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ah fair

sudden tusk
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im gonna need the belly treatment on my hunter

modest condor
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i havent done a 12 yet, only a 13 that we depleted by like 6 minutes keks

sudden tusk
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and get snuck into a 10 at 615

modest condor
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only to then 3chest an 11

sudden tusk
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the point differance is insane btw

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from a ++11 to a +12 is over 25 points

young swan
sudden tusk
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ill be at 2950 with just 12s

modest condor
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yeah it's because of the affix change

young swan
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only reason i did so many last week was cause i wasnt in for silken court

honest karma
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Last boss there is my bane. I just always seem to fuck up. Stresses me

sudden tusk
young swan
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ye i can help if u need on like monday

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or tomorrow even

sudden tusk
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yeah if i somehow dont get in one i just want one on the hunter

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its like 615 so i do dam i just cant pug on it

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i think im putting the rogue and DK in the grave

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focusing on Warrior IO and slow gearing my hunter as my true alt

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dont forget NA

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extra hour of sleep tomorrow night

modest condor
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oh you get wintertime this weekend?

sudden tusk
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well Mt fuji didnt get any snow so we're all fucked

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but daylight savings rolls back tomorrow

honest karma
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Running beer an m+ till 1, then up with kid at 6Rampage

sterile saffron
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i know we sim everything, but are there any general % points to try and hit on stats, or do we just sim and go with it no matter what?

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wondering if like 29-30% haste is too much or if I should try to focus some of that into mast/crit

hollow cove
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What is the best combination? :c

honest karma
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But i run shard in m+

astral glade
covert blaze
earnest shuttle
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I have a question, I don't know why sometimes it feels like BB is doing insane damage like 2.5M-3M damage on a crit and for some reason, sometimes it just does like 800k a crit...any idea if there's a bug by swapping gear multiple times or changing talents or something?

summer quail
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tho ofcourse cds buff everything

earnest shuttle
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I get that....but what it feels like on the first 10-15 seconds of battle of any boss, using all cds, the damage sometimes I have is like 3M overall and some others it goes down to 800k only, like wth

young swan
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tier, burst of power, VC all contribute

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tier can be up to 40% damage amp on BT

summer quail
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oh yeah and overwhelm stacks for slayer

marble bison
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been trying to get skarmshard or mark of khardros all week 🛌

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I hope I get one of these quicker than might of the ocean

sour frigate
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No.

slim grotto
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xan NERF FURY

sour frigate
fading sky
buoyant blade
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What’s that

slim grotto
sour frigate
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11.07 when?

slim grotto
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before Dec 16th apparently

dusty geyser
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does maghar orc racial buffs make it better than normal orc racials ?

flat bear
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Anyone go drac yet, can you stay in human form while dpsing?

oblique trail
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Yes

frail trout
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the dragon form looks kinda cool when your using the executioner polearm mog

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swinging around 2 of those

oblique trail
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The general animations for dragon does not look good for dual wielding if you ask me

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To me it doesn't look properly thought out for a spec like Fury

honest karma
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when 5 targets give me different gear setup than 1 target idk what to upgradeWhuh

frail trout
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when I get bored of it I'm sure I'll use the human form more

uneven dragon
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On a fresh fury alt with the amount of crests we have now would you just send 2 weapons with wrist embellishment

compact flint
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Wishes for an ability like death's advance for warrior

uneven dragon
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sorry i meant sparks

fading sky
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I mean 1 weap 1 wrist 2 rando slots id say

uneven dragon
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Because you can do the weapon bug and just upgrade with flightstones and no crests?

fading sky
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Was intended to not fuck over dw classes

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Like fury

uneven dragon
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I dont think it was intended with the way it works allowing you to create 1 weapon recraft it then never use crests on that item

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works on rings too

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and trinkets etc

fading sky
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Nah

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Doesnt work on rings and trinkets

frail trout
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I never recrafted my 2-hander, thats a fury benefit

fading sky
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Only 2handers

frail trout
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the recraft thing is required if your doing rings

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or 1-handers

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for like a rogue or something

uneven dragon
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Oh so dual wield just doenst have to do the bug

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i assumed they did okay nvm

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ty

frail trout
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dual wield does have to

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but not fury

fading sky
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There is no bug

frail trout
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because we are using 2h

uneven dragon
teal pine
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Its definitely not intended

uneven dragon
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because that isnt intended

frail trout
teal pine
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But it definitely does work on rings and trinkets

uneven dragon
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it's jsut been in the game since df because they prob cant fix it with current upgrade system

frail trout
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and its existed since df

uneven dragon
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K so just to make sure if i craft a 636 weapon my second Two handed weapon wont cost crests

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just to fully understand

frail trout
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correct

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up to 636 anyway

uneven dragon
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K so i just do that then i guess and then slam gear

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ye

frail trout
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the last 3 ilvl / final upgrade will require a crest push

left solstice
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\

uneven dragon
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Is arms or fury better with 0 gear and no tier or does it not matter atm

coral jewel
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Anyone has a send it macro for burst by chance?

frail trout
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u can prob just play whichever you prefer up to a point, arms seems to do fine in lower keys but people play fury in high ones for better survivability

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I know my arms sim is always hungry for haste even when I think I have a lot so maybe arms would feel slow at very low gear idk, you can sim if you want

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the ring thing is widespread enough now that I think blizzard will finally do something about it next season, but maybe not

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or maybe they will push a fix for it when the crests go uncapped this season

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so people don't feel ripped off that they didn't get to do it when so many have

pseudo marlin
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is nelf all around bis for bboth pve and pvp?

vague copper
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I wont tell you what nelf is bis on but it includes leather.

glass kelp
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guys, from where exactly can i get these ? sorry if the question is not related to fury

opaque cypress
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craft them, yourself if you have prof or through orders

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you need nascent gilded crest from vendor which costs 90 gilded crests btw

teal pine
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There’s an npc beside the enchanting table. You buy a nascent crest from that and then get an enchanter to enchant it

glass kelp
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thanks a lot ❤️

jolly mist
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why is dornogal completely

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empty

oblique trail
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dead game

proper silo
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Anyone on that can craft the plate chest

honest karma
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if i wanna sim for ST and AOE, is there a way to copy the pre-sim gear settings from one tab to another?

young swan
honest karma
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and how do people sim for m+ nowadays? 5 tar 40 sec?

clever belfry
nocturne dragon
echo junco
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TFW you are hitting the training dummies and realize your 604 ret paladin does the same dps as your 629 fury warr 👍

hybrid raven
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quick question, since the buffs, i play MT in m+. we use Excecute again in our rotation?

hybrid raven
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okeej, so happy war is finally doing ok. Not the best.. but ok

fading sky
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Outliers that need the stick

dusty geyser
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why warriors roll dracthyr? for the mastery ?

oblique trail
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Because it looks cool 👍

gleaming siren
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Dracthyr is not a good DPS Race 👍 purely for looks/glide

oblique trail
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Glide also very good for Ansurek, which is one of the things I rerolled for

oblique trail
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Visage bug rn is just a nice bonus on top

oblique trail
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you are welcome to

fading sky
oblique trail
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I wouldn't call it super healer, but it does upwards of 70k HPS assuming you take damage frequently enough

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From our best Ansurek pull so far it did 54k HPS

clever belfry
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visagussy

clever belfry
night relic
oblique trail
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Glide cancels it

night relic
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classic

oblique trail
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It's very op in P2

clever belfry
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non evokers arent really fast with the glide

light sandal
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sorry havent read through the entire chat since the last update: Are we still using Crushing Blow> Bloodbath for AOE and ST? Or are we prioritizing Bloodbath over Crushing blow in AOE? and Crushing blow for ST

oblique trail
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Allows you to chill on the edges of the platforms and not be in danger

clever belfry
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in fact, when u have a good movespeed bonus (like bounding stride) glide slows you down

night relic
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so u just double tap on like 1s remaining on wrest

oblique trail
clever belfry
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no u gotta activate glide after youve been yoinked

oblique trail
clever belfry
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to stop the momentum

night relic
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oh like that

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even better

oblique trail
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If you glide before Wrest finishes it increases your speed

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Or maybe it's as it finishes

light sandal
oblique trail
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So much so that you risk simply going off the platform or into the devour in the middle

night relic
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glide over to the other platform to pad some adds

oblique trail
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Just don't glide when you get knocked up to the platforms between intermission 1 and p2

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👍

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I have done this once and I did in fact not land on the platforms as a result 👍

jovial coral
oblique trail
halcyon river
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why is it not bladestorm > ravager

oblique trail
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For Thane? Because Ravager allows you to continue your rotation while Unhinged keeps hitting

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Because of this, you can keep using your Thunder Blast procs and not overcap

jovial coral
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Gonna play bladestorm thane just to spite banzoi

oblique trail
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If you used BS you'd run a very high risk of overcapping Thunder Blast every time you use CDs

oblique trail
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freak

rocky wharf
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How do you add pug randos as friends? I get the ‘player not found’ msg

fresh cape
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I’m still trying to learn fury. I find myself getting lots of bloodbath/crushing blows but I never have time to hit them both because rampage comes back up and I end up hitting that before spending the blood bath, also I forget what causes BB/CB to proc besides rampage. Is this normal?

oblique trail
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CB and BB only procs from using Rampage, and you want to spend both before you use Rampage again

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Only time you don't do this, is if Enrage has dropped, where you'd Rampage to re-enrage

south kayak
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look at these stats

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(not warrior)

rustic scarab
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Hey guys! how do you sim for a m+? dungeon slice?

fresh cape
elder ridge
warm crag
winter fossil
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That is how I see most people sim when they want to know their AOE

rustic scarab
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ahh ok ok, ty very much

tall steppe
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anyone got any got wa for showing wehen enraged?

rustic scarab
clever belfry
warm crag
clever belfry
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i think all vulpera should be exploded

warm crag
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80% slow

south kayak
summer crater
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It's a shaman so makes sense

wintry oriole
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Does depths of insanity interact with berserkers torment?

obtuse lily
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How do people handle getting shit on by adds on m rashanan even if you wait a bit before throwing a blade storm in? I’m fine on the first round with DK gripping em so they got aggro but the 2nd round I get slapped to hell -.- we do have a cc rotation as well

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I’ve resorted to asking for bop on that one 😅

clever belfry
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just live

warm crag
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ask for timelessness and make use of bops and shit

obtuse lily
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Yeah might have to - I can also just not do adds and go arms cause we have a ret that also pumps but idk the fury cd windows line up so damn well with adds!

inland silo
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why is bloodthirst higher priority than raging blow in aoe but the reverse is true for single target?

warm crag
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your job on that fight is to blow up the adds shrug

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letting someone else do it is kind of against the point you'd bring a warrior to that fight

obtuse lily
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I had forgotten about timelessness

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Lemme ask

eager thorn
oblique trail
oblique trail
warm crag
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true!

obtuse lily
obtuse lily
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I’ll figure it out 🙂 got it to 1% a few pulls in a row so I feel it’ll die tomorrow

naive wasp
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hey guys, what breed is your fury? I want to upload one now

oblique trail
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???

warm crag
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?

oblique trail
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Do you mean what race it is?

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If so then just pick the one you like the most visually, or if you care about utility then nelf/dwarf typically

naive wasp
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This is race, I was unsure whether to create a human or a dwarf.

heavy dock
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Go dwarf big meme

naive wasp
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haha I want it for pve and pvp will be my main now

obtuse lily
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My warr has been a dwarf since it was first created, shortgang!

hybrid raven
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guys i have a question. Atm i have all max upgraded (ilvl 629 atm), we don't do m raiding and i have 90 crests left. So i was wondering if there are option to make my 3th craft, without an embalishment. any sugestions maybe?

fading sky
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Go dragon

fading sky
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Crafting is to cover bad luck spots

hybrid raven
fading sky
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So ring + belt+ feet

hybrid raven
honest karma
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Full set andykeks

fading sky
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Rings are not bis thougj

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So mby a ring?

warm crag
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almost all bis items
only one item that might actually be bis

hybrid raven
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well i have alot of rings, and those simmed best

warm crag
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very powerful

fading sky
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Feet then if u dont plan buying, if u are id prob.make.belt

hybrid raven
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so belt or feet withour emb?

warm crag
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its not champion track man

fading sky
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Well u have 2 sparks

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U could also make a 2h more i guess

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But thats a waste

hybrid raven
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well it's actually an alt so 😄

fading sky
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Then id just maje belt or feet and forgot bout it

gleaming siren
hybrid raven
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yes money aint an issue, and since i dont do m raid i have 180 crest next week so

warm crag
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unless they love the thrill of gambling weekly vaults for a wep crafting an offhand is totally fine

hybrid raven
warm crag
#

go pug first 4 tho its really not that much of a hassle

#

ulgrax is free and drops a myth 2h shrug

hybrid raven
fading sky
#

Id craft belt buy feet

gleaming siren
fading sky
#

If money isnt an issue

hybrid raven
gleaming siren
#

It's 700k

#

600k if youre US

hybrid raven
#

1 mil on Eu 😄

gleaming siren
#

No

#

700k on EU

fading sky
#

No

#

Buy on different server

#

Warbank

#

Win

leaden cipher
#

Sim

oblique trail
#

You can simply just say sim yourself in top gear

#

Following what the top people use doesn't mean that it's what you should do yourself, as it's all based on their gear

#

And I look forward to the day that sites that track people completely nuke the section that shows what stats they use 👍

leaden cipher
#

He asked for an amount and all anyone says is sim. Which, yes, is definitely the most accurate, it's not the only resource out there.

oblique trail
#

And blindly following people on Murlok.io is an even worse resource to use

leaden cipher
#

I didn't say only use it🤦‍♂️

warm crag
#

referring to any other resource than simming is just bad advice though

oblique trail
#

If you tell someone to sim themselves in top gear, they auto have access to the best resource to find out what their best setup is, in their current scenario

#

Alternatively you can also point them to droptimiser as another way to gauge what their gear situation is

leaden cipher
#

🫡

oblique trail
#

Long story short, no breakpoints or ideal stats, sim yourself in top gear or droptimiser

#

It sounds very simple, but it's simple in a good way

jovial coral
#

erm

#

its dromptimizer actually

#

fuck

oblique trail
#

freak

warm crag
jovial coral
#

...

honest karma
#

read sacbrood text

heavy dock
#

The 2nd is even a tank trinket lol

whole rose
#

💀

pulsar quest
#

Looking for stats will never be a good idea because stat weights change based on the gear you have

#

It’s the reason a haste vers helm sims better than a haste mastery helm for me

#

Every single piece of gear and enchant and gem can change how much weight each stat has

#

That’s why you constantly hear “sim yourself”

fresh cape
#

do you guys generally have more mastery than haste? i have more haste than mastery and haste still sims higher for enchants than mastery for me

eternal sundial
#

if it sims better it is better for u

pulsar quest
#

I generally have more mastery but that’s just the gear I have and the way it’s simmed

#

Trust the sim

fresh cape
#

in sims we trust?

pulsar quest
#

Yes

alpine haven
#

whats ur stats

pulsar quest
alpine haven
#

Thanks g

hard widget
hard widget
#

Kekw

pulsar quest
#

Jev have you been playing AM thane

#

I’m having so much fun with it that I’m at work rn thinking about playing it when I get home

tidal gust
#

hey guys this has probably been asked a thousand times - have 90 gilded and a weapon already. What would you craft in my situation?

Everything is hero track. Seen mostly people getting the ring or wrist?

alpine haven
pulsar quest
#

First step is season 3 dragonflight 2 set

hard widget
honest karma
hard widget
hard widget
honest karma
alpine haven
#

Stll rocking garrosh heirloom for 3 sockets

pulsar quest
#

Needed as fury when you pull threat every pull

hard widget
#

Meh if ur tank is good u dont rip agro

#

But yea

#

IF

pulsar quest
#

I just play night elf and he’s shadowmeld anyways

#

Use*

molten spire
#

is 1.15 mi dps ok as 625 ilevel?

honest karma
molten spire
#

on m+

pulsar quest
#

Lmao

hard widget
pulsar quest
molten spire
#

:]

#

thane

hard widget
#

Ur dps is depends on loads of things, none of which get answered by anything u can say here

pulsar quest
#

Aug or no Aug

steel shard
pulsar quest
#

Tank pulled big? Tank chain pulling?

molten spire
#

no aug

honest karma
#

Vault had some good size pulls. Should be higher

#

Has*

pulsar quest
#

At 625 I would say with no Aug in an 8 probably be closer to 1.4-1.5 without much needed context

#

Maybe even a little higher

molten spire
#

Yeah I need to get better at m+

honest karma
#

Just CLAPPA

steel shard
#

Warrior is quite simpler

pulsar quest
#

Ideally with an Aug you should aim to end over 2m depending on the dungeon

steel shard
#

You play RA right

molten spire
#

Im doing fine at raid but m+ my uptime sucks

steel shard
#

Not am

molten spire
#

yeah RA

hard widget
#

U cant say a number of dps and then judge if its good or bad without knowing what happened

#

Maybe ur a m+ god but had a shit run

#

Maybe u suck, but ur tank pulled all mobs in the dungeon

#

U cant say anything without actually seeing whats been done

molten spire
#

🤔

hard widget
#

Especially on +8’s where its a random coin toss if people int or not

molten spire
#

I guess just gotta get good

honest karma
#

Before I told my tank to pull 8 target, but now he’s not allowed to pull more than 5 keks

hard widget
molten spire
#

I was just looking for like an average target

hard widget
#

Dont compare urself to others

#

Just look at what u couldve done better

#

If you want to improve, find ur mistakes and fix em

#

Just hearing others do more dps aint gonna make u a better player

honest karma
#

True words, but impossible to followsadge

#

I can not not compare myself to others

#

I’m humankeks

molten spire
#

true

sick prairie
#

Comparison is the thief of joy. Zug Zug.

hard widget
#

If u really want to get better, copy what highest players are doing, look at ur logs to improve. And accept when u make mistakes.

honest karma
#

If another warrior beats me I insta hit that compare button in details

trim briar
#

I'm still unsure
Do we delay Burst of Power proccs for BB?
Or de we use it straight away like BB/BT/BT or BT/BT/BT?

bold bison
#

is it worth delaying Odyn's Fury or Bladestorm so they can line up?

hard widget
serene vessel
#

I activate the magic card pot of greed

hard widget
#

Usually it costs more to think about it since ur gonna lose globals brain lagging than it will gain u

vague sierra
#

What's that do?

serene vessel
#

It allows me to draw 2 more cards to refresh my hand

alpine haven
#

If you are doing 1.15m in a +8 you gucci

#

Thats what the DPS in +11s do kek

compact knot
#

BRO 💀

lucid onyx
#

If only dps mattered in getting into keys

compact knot
#

i pulled threat on a early pack of GB and healed myself for 900k hps for like 20 seconds straight

#

i was literally just tanking the pack

#

fury is just a brick wall

lucid onyx
#

Enraged regen with bt spam?

#

D stance or zerker

compact knot
#

enraged regen during cds in zerker stance

#

a +10 gb on a pack with one of those big adds that has a tank buster in the first area

#

i got like 4 impending victory resets and just kept tanking it

lucid onyx
#

Damn gb adds hit hard with fort

#

Especially enforcers

compact knot
#

ye i got lucky the autos didnt all overlap

#

somehow i lived a rive

lucid onyx
#

Were you running enraged regen? Feels like it would be better survivability for more bts

frank rover
#

asking that question

#

implies that are people that dont run it

compact knot
#

i think he means

#

the one below it

#

to the right

frank rover
#

the one that regens if u dont take damage?

compact knot
#

no i was not running invigorating fury

compact knot
lucid onyx
#

Im talking about powerful enrage alternative

compact knot
#

oh

lucid onyx
#

Frenzied enrage mb

compact knot
#

nah powerful

#

standard m+ spec

lucid onyx
#

Yea its what I run always

#

Even in raid frenzied just too fast for me

compact knot
#

i like frenzied more tbh, it feels better to use more buttons during your cds

lucid onyx
#

My dps is usually a bit lower with frenzied but my gear isnt perfect so i have 16k haste and only 12k mastery

coarse nest
#

Critcake cooking up thane/powerful enrage/RA/Ravager/ no OF

lucid onyx
#

Frenzied is fun though if i was better at the spec id play it more

compact knot
#

VC kinda owns with thane

serene vessel
#

In the clerb, we all fam

south kayak
#

Novixx finally went thane

lucid onyx
#

Will he stay it tho

south kayak
#

dunno

lucid onyx
#

VC is fun but i still prefer actually using execute lol

compact knot
#

nah nah

#

execute is bad

south kayak
#

good luck with that

lucid onyx
#

What i mean is

south kayak
#

execute is doghsit

lucid onyx
#

I prefer slayer

#

Bc you get to use execute

#

Among other things

south kayak
#

Using it for 3 marks is nothing

lucid onyx
#

Its nice that we have two hero specs that are pretty competitive we can choose from

south kayak
#

that's true

viscid zephyr
#

as a fury warrior. what is a good setup in m+

#

?

past pivot
#

check the guides

compact knot
coarse nest
#

Pretty much it does good ST

#

He said that’s what he was going for

compact knot
#

ic

coarse nest
#

Kinda like it it’s very simple to play

#

You just rotate the 3 buttons and send cooldowns every 1:30

viscid zephyr
#

like aug and such

lucid onyx
#

Only problem i have with AM is i would have to un macro Reck from Avatar and have an extra button lol

compact knot
lucid onyx
#

For melee

coarse nest
past pivot
#

tank healer and 2 dps who will invite you

coarse nest
#

Aug is pretty good for us since we do damage frequently

lucid onyx
compact knot
#

shaman is typically a good one, they are god m+ spec rn

#

all 3 specs

lucid onyx
#

Arcane cds line up with ours pretty well for really big pulls

coarse nest
#

Prot pali/priest/aug/sham/war

#

Probably best bet this season if you’re trying to use some meta specs

viscid zephyr
#

alright, thanks guys

coarse nest
#

Could also not run an Aug

#

Squeeze in a lock or ret or dk

#

Rogue

south kayak
#

these pugs man

#

alwys something going wrong

#

tank had lag and dc'd in a 10 ara

#

we would have timed it..

compact knot
#

back to back to back to back

#

thought that key was easy

#

kek

south kayak
#

lol

compact knot
#

im just trying to gear my warrior and some dumb shit always has to happen and then i get 5 gilded

tardy lark
#

Had tank ask dps to kick patty cake

#

🙂

eternal sundial
#

when I was new i did that

south kayak
#

oof

eternal sundial
#

in s1 in a 2

hidden sinew
#

what flask do yall use for m+ just mastery or the one that alternates.

hidden sinew
#

kk ty

lucid onyx
#

If for some reason you aren’t using potions you can use mastery flask

eternal sundial
#

i mean you can still use temp pots

#

but they are worse

lucid onyx
#

When i was broke doing low keys and potions were more expensive i ran mastery flask

#

Also i have so much haste i have to wait for alchemical chaos to roll mastery before i can eat my food 🙂

tardy lark
#

What

lucid onyx
#

Beledars bounty gives your highest secondary stat

eternal sundial
#

i do this wonderful thing where i only weapon oil keys

lucid onyx
#

I use weapon oil but i cant even tell when its not active tbh

livid marsh
#

weapon oil is less stats then an enchant i think

inner shadow
#

anyone have the leemental shaman burst gif?

lament lagoon
#

12 to 13 M+ isnt that bad right

solemn plover
compact siren
lament lagoon
#

i see it clearly now

#

ty

compact siren
clever belfry
arctic raft
hidden sinew
#

i just miss when everything wasnt so expensive id rather them just get rid of wow tokens, make a premium currency for shop items only,Etc noncombat items. and increase gold drops exponentially.

keen kindle
#

That's not because of the wow token

#

That's because blizz really just had to make this moronic system we have now

#

The rarity system is trash and has single handedly driven up prices

#

There's no point in 1 or two star

#

And yet often times dumbasses price them higher or the same as r3

hidden sinew
#

like cool i did a delve and found a treasure room full of gold, Brann~ here adventurer this is your take of the spoils "53g 40s 31c"

keen kindle
#

Dude if delves were an actual viable gold farm I'd do them daily

#

Make them give gold equivalent to emissary quests/callings since those are gone

hidden sinew
#

yeah i mean im not saying i want diablo levels of gold ease

#

but something better than we got now lol

keen kindle
#

We had better in legion and bfa

#

Even shadowlands had better passive gold incomes

#

But them nerfing legacy raids into the ground and then not giving us a replacement gold wise for the emissary quests or callings wad a bad call imo

hidden sinew
#

im legit about to have to start selling dps slots in keys, cause this is nutz, and i hate to be apart of the carry problem but damn i dont have time to farm reagents for hours and make gold and have time for end game content.. im not in highschool no mo lol

past pivot
#

I find it to be the opposite. Gold is plentiful. Invest time early in a good profession or 2 and gold rolls in.

keen kindle
#

Yes because you invest in professions

#

Before df you could easily make enough gold to support endgame by just passive income

hidden sinew
#

thats probably my problem too this expansion is the first time ive really messed with profs

keen kindle
#

Now blizz has deleted those from the game

heavy nacelle
#

dude I upgraded my offhand from 619 to 636 and my sim went up by literally 10k dps... lol how's that even possible, less than 0.1% gain

past pivot
#

Spend a little time and money, make a lot of gold

nocturne dragon
heavy nacelle
past pivot
#

Link the sim

hidden sinew
#

i just miss farming old raids for gold, all my rare mounts actually game from gold farming items rather than the mounts

#

during wod i could easily bank 5kg a toon a week

#

and then that was pretty decent for the econmy.

past pivot
hidden sinew
#

when you just want repairs and raid mats

modest condor
#

smf sim critcake

heavy nacelle
#

that's right 😛

past pivot
#

oh, then who cares if it's SMF

heavy nacelle
#

i mean its still a sad upgrade

#

even if i remove all talents 😛

orchid dagger
heavy nacelle
#

yeah i re-equipped and tried nightly, same result, i guess it's just a lame upgrade! it is what it is!

#

back to grinding crests!

#

on my SMF dwarf!

past pivot
#

It's SMF so it's inferior to begin with

buoyant island
#

How come you use 1 handed weapons

orchid dagger
buoyant island
#

Do they not produce less damage

past pivot
#

much less

heavy nacelle
orchid dagger
#

But the actual problem is Blizz actively choosing not to fix the problem

willow cradle
orchid dagger
willow cradle
heavy nacelle
willow cradle
#

Nuh uh

#

Gotta be fully dressed in pink

orchid dagger
#

Tbh not being able to mog fists as fury because "muh 2hs" is pretty fucking dumb

#

Imagine being a walking ball of rage and not being able to beat the fucking brakes off of someone with your brass knuckles

willow cradle
#

Yeah removing SMF and allowing Fury to mog 1 handers would be neato

past pivot
#

Make SMF a Fury-only glyph then replace SMF talent with PH or something basic. imp hamstring. Bam. Done.

orchid dagger
#

Or make SMF baseline but actually good

past pivot
#

no

orchid dagger
#

Make SMF actually worth a shit

river reef
#

Any fury breeders in the chat right now

past pivot
#

They did. It's called Frost

orchid dagger
#

Oh wait

#

Can't say that, the zoomies might get mad

willow cradle
past pivot
#

TBC? lol 2handers ruled then too. Cata's Edge. Apolyon. Torch. etc

orchid dagger
#

And if you were a war you had weaponsmithing

#

If you were on 2h Fury in TBC your BiS was Lionheart

#

And that was that

past pivot
#

I was. crafted 1handers were slightly better at 1 point for BT but otherwise 2hander ruled iirc

orchid dagger
#

Lionheart was better due to Sword Spec

trail bane
#

it depended on what race you were

#

but since you are all probably thinking about classic tbc

#

you were probably human

#

so yea lionheart was king

orchid dagger
#

No, because Sword Spec was BiS period

#

5% Windfury proc was insane

past pivot
#

I was nelf back then and axes made better sounds and looked better

orchid dagger
#

The only alternative was the crafted Mace for pvp

trail bane
#

the crafted 1h maces had haste procs before haste was a stat

#

thats the only real way to play the game

#

until armor pen became a stat

willow cradle
#

It's okay Grandpa's no need to argue about what toys you had in 1835

past pivot
#

armor pen was the best

astral path
#

So much gold to be made

#

I’ve never been a profession gamer

#

Always been poor survive off raid boes

#

But now gold carries are the meta 😎

queen tapir
#

how tf do you even make gold doing professions I always wondered

#

it seems like a complete time and money sink trying to gather knowledge points

#

shit is hard

modest condor
#

one is just crafting items for other people

#

even if i tell them i dont need gold they still tip at least 5k

#

another one is using concentration to craft rank 3 items with rank 2 materials

past pivot
#

Helps to be ahead of the curve. Get recipe(s) before others do

modest condor
#

very strong with enchanting

woeful plover
#

Is thane vs slayer just preference at this point? Full cleared 12s but seem to be doing more dmg overall as slayer

modest condor
#

thane should be ahead in m+

#

if you're doing more as slayer then chances are you either had a better run or you're just not used to thane

woeful plover
#

True

barren ore
#

weapon blacksmith with resourcefulness = 5-10k tips + up to ~8k from resourcefulness. don‘t even need concentration anymore.

opaque cypress
#

I'm wondering how significant is attack power from ironclaw whetstones

#

It's like 420 attack power or so at rank 2

pale lava
#

just run 2x quick sim, one with stones, one with oil and check the numbers

winter shoal
#

In like 10-12s

inner harbor
fading sky
#

Its very key dependant

#

Which is bettet

inner harbor
#

I played a lil better with RA on the key so AM could possibly be a lil bit higher

fading sky
#

And if u remember that bt is bis

#

As am

inner harbor
fading sky
winter shoal
fading sky
#

Some dungeons ra some am

#

U could say am is less overkills dmg wise

inner harbor
fading sky
#

If ppl cd at same time

inner harbor
#

if you play better with AM then you might get more value out of it

winter shoal
nimble ermine
#

you'll be fine

winter shoal
#

I mean I've mostly been playing AM thane in keys this week anyways

#

I'll probably give colossus a shot as well in some lower keys since I still need to farm up a mark of khardros for brood prog

nimble ermine
#

just drop it 4head

winter shoal
#

I've BEAN trying

nimble ermine
#

i farmed for it for almost a week straight, got it before reset

winter shoal
#

Done like 20? in the last two weeks

nimble ermine
#

upgraded it

#

and then got it out of vault

#

blizz is so funny sometimes

winter shoal
#

I had myth skarshard in vault the other week but took myth tier instead

nimble ermine
#

but i cant get a transmitter for the life of me

winter shoal
#

fuck a transmitter

nimble ermine
#

i cant even get mad at using it because it doesnt exist for me

earnest meteor
#

another 13 sv bricked

fading sky
fading sky
#

Strong but annoing, worse than puzzle

sudden thicket
#

as soon as I got mark & shard that shit was relegated to the bank. so many times the orb would float under boss, off an edge, on top of an egg on Ovinax, or the circle would be in the shit. I don't need to be dealing with my own personal affix tyvm

fading sky
#

Same, i havent got em

#

Transmitter be chasing me😅

orchid dagger
#

Meanwhile, me with the fattest on use pvp trink + no u cc trink

#

Gotta get that 2pc

tender seal
#

Tthis guy queues up as dps warrior for your dungeon, how fast do you accept?

golden hare
#

3-5 working days

tender seal
#

regular queuetimers as dps warrior igf

eternal sundial
#

Where diaper gnome

tender seal
#

It's my alt

#

should do a nice mog for main as well ig

#

but its human so doesnt look quite as uNiQuE

eternal sundial
tender seal
#

can u get pink beard on female? if not, riot.

eternal sundial
#

Oh ur body 2

#

Yea no counterplay then

weary sail
#

Came back and all my friends said faker won again

#

While im doing a +12

eternal sundial
#

Facuh

#

The goat

subtle needle
#

1 fkin second left

#

LUL

weary sail
eternal sundial
#

p good

eternal lance
nocturne dragon
# weary sail Holy

defending title again. 5 times and ever defend twice. I don't think anyone can match Faker's record anytime soon. Winning 5 worlds itself without defending is daunting task already.

weary sail
#

7 mil viewers is crazy!

devout kraken
#

.-+

weary sail
#

How much was world first race peak viewer

#

300k?

fading sky
fast mural
#

top left

fading sky
#

Never heard of that game

#

Better than top right?

fast mural
#

BIG L game

olive wraith
#

Did T1 wonnered

thick lantern
#

So I just ran a key to test out Thane for the first time, im kinda late to the party i know. And my damage was great. But I feel like I am not prioritizing something right. I know its kind of a broad statement but can anyone give me some feedback on this build? and how you prio certain abilites.

hushed ocean
#

thunder blast, enraged, always first

#

then it's pretty similar to slayer

serene vessel
#

Tbh if you're playing AM Thane, it's pretty braindead. Rampage #1 prio, then thunderblast, then sending BT basically as close to on cool down as you can

#

You hardly ever press raging blow in keys

chrome wraith
#

does Thane consume bloodbath automatically from a talent proc or something?

#

been having some weird visual bugs otherwise

young swan
#

unhinged consumes it

chrome wraith
#

is it still applying to every tick of ravager?

#

or just the one

young swan
#

no

#

you just have to rampage in between ravager ticks

chrome wraith
#

ty

young swan
#

obviously use your CB as well

chrome wraith
#

ofc

bold peak
#

can someone running thane for m+ post here or dm me a screenshot of their details dmg breakdown for comparison?

coral jewel
#

How do yoi know when ravager ticks

charred panther
#

Only way I know

humble shadow
warm crag
#

noob

young swan
solemn plover
proud vessel
#

Ara-Kara +12 I should not top the meters here no? All similar ilvl

#

Im 625, 628 sham, 630 hunt

cloud fox
#

is slayer better than thane ?

#

for m+

nocturne dragon
#

on low key yeah but the higher the key you need more sustained aoe which thane will provide

cloud fox
#

how high is it haha, im kinda on 10-11 right now

inner zinc
cloud fox
#

been only slayer till now, but see many streamers goings arms and than for fury

unique umbra
#

Hey, so if you have two 639 weapons, wouldn't it be more ideal to use the two weapons and then have two crafted off pieces?

chilly fractal
#

you can sim that

mellow smelt
#

anyone tried raiding as thane? how is it?

warm crag
#

fine on court

unique umbra
#

How do you add pieces you don't have?

chilly fractal
warm crag
#

probably trolling everywhere else

chilly fractal
chilly fractal
#

yea there

unique umbra
#

i seeeeeee

#

yea I figure the top end weap has to be better and they give more stats

chilly fractal
#

but then you can't have Ascendance

unique umbra
#

that only gets applied to weap?

#

ahhh

#

thats bullshit

north edge
#

He says it’s similar

#

And up to preference

cloud fox
#

🫡

pliant jackal
#

if you are playing with geared players even on 10s M slayer feels better imo

rare pilot
#

hey guys! with the AM Thane build, in general M+ content how many secs is it worth waiting on reck/ravager to sync with avatar/breath?

modest condor
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might wanna go and open his stream real quick

rare pilot
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i feel like it's not worth holding cds for too long but I would like to know how much is acceptable

mental swan
unborn notch
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fury is saved 🙏

sick thistle
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why is the top furys all playing authority of the depths weapon enchant? does it proc more often than authority of radiant power?

graceful ruin
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do we try to not let unhinged eat our BBs in aoe? since they don't cleave?

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or just let them rip

young swan
proud vessel
proud vessel
graceful ruin
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cool cool

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big shame that it doesnt cleave anymore

proud vessel
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yup

eager thorn
weary sail
lean wasp
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almost an hour signing up to a key already timed 🙂

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i even put a note "ele shaman"

gleaming obsidian
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What race do you guys play for warrior

lean wasp
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nelf

past pivot
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velf

lean wasp
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so you can taunt your team mates when they die to aggro or stuff you can stealth

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"should have went nelf"

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you say it even if they are playing pala

gleaming obsidian
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What about gnome or dwarf? Or blood elf

iron portal
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Both are good for different reasons

lean wasp
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dwarf looks shit but its useful

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gnome i think only good for pvp

iron portal
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Thats subjective

lean wasp
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belf is useless

iron portal
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Master race human

kindred hearth
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NE.

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Melding in keys is legit

lean wasp
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its never not useful, but so as dwarf

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these are the only good options for M+ i think, damage wise it doesnt really matter much

past pivot
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Xmog discount and entropic embrace

lean wasp
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but it feels more like a caster

iron portal
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If you would want dmg prob lightforged

kindred hearth
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NE tmog is bussin

iron portal
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NE objectively good cause of meld

iron portal
kindred hearth
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First boss of GB

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Meld that shit away

lean wasp
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and you can nelf the channel cast on last packs

odd star
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buffed bloodbath critting and proccing reap the storm feels too good

gleaming obsidian
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So NE for the win

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So nothing on horde is good?

odd star
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i mean, horde has the advantage of being horde