fury

[serene vessel]

Fire is unironically almost unplayable

[sullen dove]

n = 1

[warm crag]

i got caught lacking

[sullen dove]

pepelaff

[warm crag]

n=1 goes hard

[radiant plank]

their ansurek talents are their st talents

[errant vessel]

lacking crests

[unreal onyx]

1st boss 11 SV for me

fury thane op

[sullen dove]

yer

[young swan]

middle ST on a boss where ur committing and saving CD's to blast adds is pretty damn good

[fiery storm]

Ya but when u have a monk + havok if your group, u r nonexistent on that boss lol their burst alone destroys everything b4 i can do anything

[sullen dove]

[radiant plank]

how

[granite fable]

100%

[young swan]

if ur getting beaten to adds ur fucking up

[sullen dove]

bro just siad monk

[young swan]

badly

[radiant plank]

do u not know how to burst

[sullen dove]

havoc actually has some fast burst

but you gotta be addled if youre losing to a monk

[fiery storm]

U guys r nuts or play with morons .... i save all cds like they do for the aoe and burst and they just blow everything up

1 of 3 fights i get lucky and pop everything and then they r dead last

[sullen dove]

[red berry]

Heh :)

[sullen dove]

perhaps replicate whatever you do on that 1/3 pulls more often

but i mean on any heroic boss really yea adds live 2 seconds

[frank rover]

what ilvl is this

this doesnt seem good

[fiery storm]

I do the very same shit ..... fury isnt hard lets not act like im doing a rotation wrong

[unreal onyx]

ilvl of what

[radiant plank]

skill issue ngl

[sinful charm]

Any changes to meta talent picks with the new buffs or is shit still the same?

[radiant plank]

its 3 globals for your damage

[frank rover]

wtf do u mean ilvl of what

obvs of u

[sullen dove]

idk i mean its a cooked comparison on like heroic ansurek where you have .3 seconds to do dmg on any add set but in general yea no way warrior loses on burst

[unreal onyx]

633

[sinful charm]

Ilvl of your first toon?

[frank rover]

i did 1.4 after 1st boss

on thane

[sullen dove]

@young swan is showing belly playing

[unreal onyx]

after 1st boss?

[frank rover]

ye

[sullen dove]

dragindeez needs keys cuz swordish not allowed in 12s

[unreal onyx]

or on 1st boss

[frank rover]

after 1st boss

thane on 1st target is really bad

[unreal onyx]

the screen I sent was only the bossfight

which is pure ST

[fiery storm]

If u dont hit b4 they do u will literally lose every battle tho u either dont have big bursts in your group or u just dk what u r talking about all my point is, is that our burst isnt so crazy that we cant have good ST like some are saying

[unreal onyx]

my overall was 1.96mil

[young swan]

yeah i could log in

havent logged in yet today

[formal stump]

I dont see an option to run a sim with the equipment from the event vendor loot

[sullen dove]

yea i mean thats what im saying basically by the point of if you arent popping them the moment they spawn its already too late, on a fight like ansurek

but fury's st damage is insane for how much aoe it can do

ansurek not exactly the prime example

[unreal onyx]

people trying to pad dmg in heroic this late in the patch?

noway

[sullen dove]

heres 26 wipes on broodtwister overall dps

[young swan]

okay im also not talking about heroic

[sullen dove]

and heres boss dps lul

[radiant plank]

hc mickey mouse difficulty now anyway

[frank rover]

ye theres some megaparses on heroic

[young swan]

cause that is peplaff encounter nowadays

[frank rover]

i did 25% more damage than last week

and got lower parse

[radiant plank]

Dont check r1 ansurek mythic!

[sullen dove]

like the only spec thats egregiously doing both add/boss better than me at the same time is ele maybe

[fiery storm]

Na we r just talking about burst windows n my opinion is our st should be higher cause although our aoe is nice its not miles ahead of everyone but idk w.e im not an expert

[frank rover]

i have higher logs on mythic

than i do on hc

[unreal onyx]

killed brood this monday before buffs

[radiant plank]

fdk prenerf

[sullen dove]

yea i mean never gonna not want more st but like, st is quite stronk

[young swan]

lemme show u something

[sullen dove]

and if you dont need aoe just go arms and do 1.5mil just cuz! 😄

[fiery storm]

Ya for real im about to honestly

[young swan]

this is mythic ansurek

[sullen dove]

n=2 die

[summer quail]

uhh no one matches how fast we burst

[young swan]

it doesnt matter if its an accurate representation of spec strength

and it proves the point

that fury IS definitively the best burst aoe spec in the game

[fiery storm]

Ok but r mythics raiders doing ansurek with 3 or 4 big burst aoers lol or do they have a token fury so the logs r inflated?

[summer quail]

we do not want anything to happen to fury right now, no buffs no nerfs. we are in an extremely good spot

like extremely good

[young swan]

most groups have 1-2 fury warriors

a windwalker isnt uncommon

ret

[radiant plank]

2 fury is troll on ansurek I fear

[young swan]

as well

[inner shadow]

is delve exp valid for whole account?

[young swan]

it literally does not matter

also i dont think it is

[inner shadow]

like whole blizzard account

[radiant plank]

it does when i waa benched for this

[young swan]

guild fuck dumb

wcyd

[radiant plank]

smadge

nah we needed rets, we played all freedoms strat p1

[sour frigate]

happens to be difficult to burst adds as ww

[radiant plank]

and they just owned

on the boss anw

[dire badge]

mute xan a thousand hours for lumping ww in

[radiant plank]

But liquid max said ww is op on ansurek

[young swan]

ww does good burst if ur playing conduit

[radiant plank]

🤓

[dire badge]

mute liquid maximum two thousand hours

not anymore they fixed that bug

[sour frigate]

yes it does but furys odyns bs is bigger and way less gcds for actual burst

[dire badge]

celestial is worse than shadow pan all the time now

[young swan]

our ww is still helping out with tombs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sour frigate]

tombs is cool for ww

[young swan]

idk u guys are saying definitive shit but playing in cringe idiot guilds that think u need a WF comp to kill the boss

[sour frigate]

im not playing raid anymore

[young swan]

despite the fact we have 10 more ilvl, a full round of nerfs, and 5% more dam and healing passively

[sullen dove]

somehow still not enough for me

[somber elk]

Are Serverr laggy today or does my Internet Suck?

[sour frigate]

was doing ansurek day 1 as ww

[sullen dove]

we will surely kill broodtwister tonight on our last raid night and will not have a guild implosion

[sour frigate]

hm

[sullen dove]

as an hour long argument/conversation was already had after raid last night

[eager thorn]

gl

[sour frigate]

and couldnt do shit to adds cuz fury and havoc melted them instantly

[sage karma]

Boys, does anyone know if syringe is good as offhand (instead of a 626 normal weapon)?

crafted 636 mh, 619 Syringe or 626 offhand?

[sullen dove]

for single target acceptable

for aoe no

[dire badge]

not even in a guild bozo

[sullen dove]

o 619 idk

sim perchance

but never use on aoe

[young swan]

then do not speak

[dire badge]

oh ok fair

[sage karma]

Can you even get a 626 syringe? lol

[sullen dove]

yea think from like great vault

and maybe map get rly lucky

[radiant plank]

bwoah

[sullen dove]

i think its "delve loot" rite

idk

[sage karma]

I thought it only came from that event thing that can happen in delves

but I'm probably wrong

eh I'll just replace it with my 626 wep

[dapper goblet]

weird..

[sullen dove]

die st bot

[sour frigate]

[dapper goblet]

2nd best on st behind sv hunter

barely beating bm

weird

[sullen dove]

top sham beat top sv

weird

rng speccus

[dapper goblet]

pi doesnt count

[sullen dove]

just proc 100 windfuries in a row

or whatever you do

[sour frigate]

proc 5+ blue wolfs

brrrr

[sullen dove]

🐶

[radiant plank]

dont look

r1 sikran mythic

[sour frigate]

is it woyeor?

[sullen dove]

pushed off top 100 gg

[radiant plank]

it is ele

[sour frigate]

guess it was 11.05 week1?

[radiant plank]

no

it was yday

[sour frigate]

damn

[young swan]

@sullen dove why cant i see u online on bnet

[sullen dove]

no reason

see now?

[south kayak]

Windwalker needs aoe buffs tbh

[young swan]

ye

[sullen dove]

w

[sour frigate]

its gamba

[toxic plank]

Guys Quick Question what is better for m+ slayer or thane after buffs? Played thane until now

[sullen dove]

thane but can do whatever u like

slayer still own

[young swan]

think thane is just kind of better but yeah play what you enjoy

[toxic plank]

Thanks

[sullen dove]

are these big players i aug or stay dev

i see tank is huge

unsure of lockus

[young swan]

i have no idea

[sullen dove]

dev it is

[young swan]

the healer is guildie

[sullen dove]

noice

[radiant plank]

[uneven salmon]

does fury have a mastery soft or hardcap ?

[summer quail]

we have no such thing as specific percentage of mastery that we want if that is what you are asking. you just sim and follow that

[alpine briar]

What i never really understood is how youre supposed to sim the entire gear, isnt it way too many variation for raidbots

[unreal onyx]

@warm crag ilvl check

[sage karma]

absolutely offensive

[spare flame]

is this accurate for m+ thane?

[hard widget]

Looks fine yea

[wanton token]

Good evening guys, can you tell me the best race to play fury?

[spare flame]

ty

[lunar steeple]

dwarf, nelf are generally the best races for utility

[hard widget]

If you dont play giga keys, or RWF u dont care

But yeah what Greencard said

[orchid dagger]

a pvp race (your ass is getting declined in pve)

[velvet obsidian]

Nah we'll get invites after they buff us some more

[wanton token]

for both

[warm crag]

idk

[orchid dagger]

gnome, drac, human, dwarf, DID

[warm crag]

didnt max out crests yet

[marble mantle]

Is there any significant changes to rotation with the latest patch, like prio on bloodbath in aoe or something?

[unreal onyx]

I did

[fossil cloak]

applying to M+ for 30 minutes and then trying to form my own key for another 30 mins and failing is peak wow

[orchid dagger]

be me
open rated pvp tab
queue for solo rbgs
always get invite

GGEZ

[wanton token]

the horde doesn't have any interesting ones

[orchid dagger]

Orc

[wanton token]

but those from the alliance are the best options ?

[orchid dagger]

yeah, human lower but still good

[quiet geyser]

The amount of time you spend on finding the "best" race to play fury, you'd legit get a bigger damage increase spending that time watching high level players and getting your rotation/timings better.

[crude gate]

I'm literally never pressing ww as Thane f that

[chrome plover]

mechagnome is highest damage

but it doesnt really matter

dwarf for dispel
nelf for meld

[oblique trail]

Dracthyr as well for as long as the Visage bug remains 👍

(also op for Ansurek prog but not many that applies to)

[chrome plover]

dracthyr for bugged perma hot 👍

[quiet geyser]

People who purposely play midget races cant be trusted

[chrome plover]

true dont trust me

[wanton token]

I think I'm going to do dwarf, I still can't do gnomomec

[tardy lark]

weird kink to have, but whatever floats your boat mate

[inner shadow]

i bought wow but they scammed me from my lvl 70 boost

[jade fjord]

is the breakdown fine for AM mists 10+2? 🤔

it feels like thunderblast isnt' so high

extra crisp screenshot since we are on a thundertheme amiright...

[summer quail]

why is it so bright

[jade fjord]

HDR

kills screenshots

[unreal onyx]

how much overall % dmg does your guys's queen ring do approx?

my hc one does like 0.5%

[rotund ginkgo]

Timed a sob13 today

Feels good

😭🙏

Best part was that I was same damage as the fdk

[willow cradle]

Good job

[calm quartz]

When

[rotund ginkgo]

I hope u crash into a bridge

[unreal onyx]

gottem

gottem good

[rotund ginkgo]

Haha!

[calm quartz]

D:

[rotund ginkgo]

Cozyboi rn

https://tenor.com/view/prince-harry-got-em-bam-gif-10655285

[worldly cave]

620 ilv 0.9
633 ilv 0.5

[rotund ginkgo]

Damn is the ring that big

[summer quail]

did 0.7% on hc sikran

[rotund ginkgo]

What's the visage bug

That u can stay in visage during combat?

[queen linden]

Hc does about .6-.8 for me

[unreal onyx]

ye

ez 400k hps

[chrome plover]

my polearm just did 3.4% in my mists

don’t have queen ring though

[smoky vale]

[fossil grove]

need 1 dps and 1 prot warrior for a 4 warrior sv 10 right this moment

[rotund ginkgo]

What's the bug I'm confused

Oh cuz u heal while ur in visage or sth?

Cuz being in combat while visage is on is intended

I guess the bug is that they forgot to remove the heal from it while in combat?

[unreal onyx]

smthn like that yea

[rotund ginkgo]

I wanna get it but Im so lazy

[unreal onyx]

ethical healing

very ethical

and then there's these type of hps logs

[ionic bone]

Do I use the higher damage weapon instead of higher ilvl on main hand ?

[worldly cave]

yes 639 main

[ionic bone]

higher damage is 636 bro

not talking about dps

[sour frigate]

the dps stat matters

not highest damage

[ionic bone]

that's why i'm asking

[young swan]

higher ilvl always mainhand

[ionic bone]

I don't know if abilities hit harder with higher damage weapons

[young swan]

damage range is cosmetic

dps is not

[worldly cave]

max dmg worthless for retail

[acoustic yoke]

Damn vulpera racial buff still ass

Regeneratin being a 50% uncancelled heal is nice though wtf

[warm crag]

@young swan is the velf entropic embrace thing a buff or a nerf

[acoustic yoke]

It's a flat dmg buff and not a replication of dmg so I guess buff?

[summer quail]

maghar orc is probably pretty insane for 2m classes now

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah

Now that it's based on top 2 highest secondaries

[unreal stump]

Hii some1 know a good anger management build?

[acoustic yoke]

And not random

[unreal stump]

for m+

[acoustic yoke]

May be a worthwhile swap

[acoustic yoke]

Probably depends on what the proc rare change is too

It's 33% currently right?

[summer quail]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxghhZwywMzCMMjxwMMzssNzYmZWYmZmZGmZsM8AYGDAAAEGDsBLLGNmBkZBWMWA

[snow edge]

Not sure if Mutou's is the same, but: https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/fury/mountain-thane/DAOAUVBRFUiEVKSUFBANVVEFUZUVRWBQRCQQEFVVUCAQ

[summer quail]

mine is the same except frenzied over powerful

[acoustic yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-gif-523038869044733220

[young swan]

who the fuck knows

i think in theory replication was better for us?

[acoustic yoke]

So used to Mutou with the other PFP I forgot it was him

[young swan]

cause it was dealt as shadow damage

[supple estuary]

We need new racial sims STAT

[young swan]

instead of physical

[warm crag]

will just have to sim it when implemented ig

ty

[acoustic yoke]

Does it change the dmg type?

[young swan]

doubtful

[summer quail]

sometimes change. not like banezi rate tho

[acoustic yoke]

The new change I mean

[unreal stump]

tyyy

[unreal stump]

tyy

[warm crag]

shame they doubled down on vulpera not having a dps racial

[acoustic yoke]

Idm the utility of their racial tbf if the active one had any value to compensate

The free tp tent is nice

But also questing is not a major part of this game anymore

So it falls short in that value

[warm crag]

yeah the tent will allow me to hearthstone out of the raid more often as i am benched cause im playing a race that doesnt provide any dps at all

[acoustic yoke]

Jokes on you, I don't think the tp tent even works in raid

Damn shame cause vulpera are the only cool midget race

[inland flame]

Uhhhhhhh more buffs in 11.0.7 👀

[acoustic yoke]

Actually tragic how low it decreases your dps to play them

[young swan]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[acoustic yoke]

The datamines? They are merges of the recent buffs

[inland flame]

Ah I c

[acoustic yoke]

I'm waiting for the 11.0.7 warrior rework

Surely it's coming

[opaque cypress]

I wonder, does damage from Devour count as periodic damage?

[young swan]

think it just means dots

[acoustic yoke]

No

Also won't you die anyway from devour b4 this could ever help you

[young swan]

what on earth is devour

[opaque cypress]

current affix

[acoustic yoke]

Oh

[opaque cypress]

healing thingy

in m+

[acoustic yoke]

I thought u meant queen devour

Probably does help with affix but the racial is a channel

[young swan]

should count as periodic yeah

[opaque cypress]

actually I was wondering why it kept canceling my regeneration and only now checked to see it also deals a small amount of damage on top of healing check

[acoustic yoke]

Yes

It's why 2nd wind never clears the bitch

[crude gate]

anyone playing AM thane - do you take depths of insanity? (AM capstone)

[modern epoch]

Hey guys quick question is transmitter better than skarmorak shard?

[crude gate]

numbers wise yes

if you miss a single use of transmitter though it is obviously worse so you need to use it strategically

[modern epoch]

I use it prepull get the buff at 1 src before

Sec

[crude gate]

obviously yeah

[chilly fractal]

oh sweet some of the new ring gems give secondry stat

prolly won't end up being the best but the mastery one maybe

[modern epoch]

Same again before cds come back up

[summer quail]

yes

[crude gate]

yeah assuming you always use it right and never miss, its generally better but if you just wanted to know from a numbers perspective you just sim it right

[modern epoch]

Sure thing thanks

[summer quail]

no,not sweet. i really hope this thing doesn't end up being bis. annulet was super annoying

[small dome]

Does bladestorm still cast bloodbaths if its up, and is this intended or a bug?

[summer quail]

only casts 1 bloodbath if it's up. it consumes it then the rest are bts

[small dome]

Oh I thought I saw someone say if u have it up they were all bloodbaths

thanks

[eager stirrup]

Yo. What do you guys drop to pick up Bitter Immunity this week for the Slayer M+ spec?

[summer quail]

yeah was a bug at the start of this patch

I don't, press impending victory then tell the healer to heal you

[small dome]

be a dwarf

[chilly fractal]

what part was annoying

[small dome]

master race

[summer quail]

getting the ring and all the gems

[chilly fractal]

ah limited free time to play?

[summer quail]

No, i just hate questing

[chilly fractal]

well if its like last time getting a copy of every gem should only take you like 2 hours

[frozen portal]

entering brood prog tonightg, we saving CD"s for first eggs?

or trying to spam execute into a 2nd BS

[gray void]

play AM

u have cds for every set of eggs

[chilly fractal]

you can pop everything but Avatar on pull or you can just pop everything on pull

depends on your group but if you save Avatar you'll have it for first set of adds

otherwise you'll have it for 2nd set of adds

[frozen portal]

ah i guess it evens out then

you basically miss for one pack on first set

[dim radish]

Shadowbinding ritual knife sims a significant amount higher for me than sac, both aoe and single target, but everyone I see is running sac. Is there something I don't know?

[sour frigate]

Ritual knife is delve shit

[dim radish]

well the delve shit is doing 2%+ more than the sac with both at 626

[brittle crow]

have u guys actually felt like playing wow

i need to level my dk but i dont wanna

😔

how do i fix burnout

[frozen portal]

just tried AM for a brood pull

that feels...so nice

omg i love it

[weary sail]

So whats the verdict gents, AM or RA for M+

[gray void]

y it's the way to go on brood

feels really good

[winter shoal]

Either

[modest condor]

lol thanks to the dungeon timer changes i have now 2 +11 3chests on my profile

[winter shoal]

Up to you

[winter shoal]

YUGE

[weary sail]

15s death timer is still aids

[frozen portal]

my only other Q is where does odyn's fit in

just save for first pack?

[gray void]

u can use it on pull

[red berry]

what change where

[dry hawk]

4/8M lets GOOO

[chilly fractal]

w00t

[zenith cave]

during ravager/bladestorm with unhinged, should the BT work with whirlwind buff?

[sour frigate]

Just don't die lol

[eager thorn]

All dungeons got +90s to timer

And it applied retroactively

[eager thorn]

No the unginged bt/bb will not cleave with the whirlwind talents

[zenith cave]

i see thanks

[lean valley]

upgrade bracers or make 2nd 363 weapon?

[sullen dove]

making second weap giga weirdge

unless literally nothing else to upgrade

but prolly bracer first

[lean valley]

how so?

thinking bracers but second sword sims bigger

[sullen dove]

cuz it costs 2 sparks and 90 extra crests, when if you just had another weapon its effectively free

weap def sims bigger but its just a complete drain of 90 crests

and if you do 10s for vault the moment you geta myth weapon its instantly worthless to have crafted

[lean valley]

that's if I get one

[sullen dove]

so like if you have nothing else youd rather spend gildeds on then sure

[lean valley]

I see I see

[sullen dove]

but if theres still upgrades to be had on gear youre going to upgrade eventually anyway prolly better bet to just upgrade stuff that would stick around longer

[lean valley]

ring it is

[sullen dove]

cuz i mean rng is a bitch myth weapon hasnt dropped off first boss after like 6 kills for me

[lean valley]

thanks for claryfying

[sullen dove]

but surely soon

[lean valley]

Is that the play do the first boss on mythic for the myth 2h, even though it's stats are cheeks

[sullen dove]

yea i mean stats are almost meaningless in the grand scheme of things

ilvl is infinitely more valuable

you can get the stats from other places

like ulg weap is 16k dps upgrade and silken court weap is 17k dps

so not "the best" but still you just want any myth weapon

[eager thorn]

One day I’ll get myth weapon

[lean valley]

myth wild hammer

one day

[eager thorn]

I got it in my vault and took mythic brood over it

Cos nobody else in my guild needs the wep and surely itll drop

[lean valley]

is that actually worth?

[sullen dove]

i mean myth giga bis trinket over a "bis" weapon yeah

cuz weapon can be almost replaced by any other myth weapon

where youre hard pressed to find a trinket as good as sacbrood

take the trink every time pmuch

long term gains

[summer quail]

first boss weapon doesn't have cheeks stats. we do not hate vers

[chilly fractal]

Imagine if the Sikran or Rash trinket were good

[sullen dove]

ulg weapon 19k dps and wild hammer 20k dps 639

barely matters

which weapon you get

just need a weapon

[chilly fractal]

Can’t get either to sim even close to good 626 trinkets at 639

[dry hawk]

I need a sac >:'(

[chilly fractal]

farm Ara-Kara

there's only like 5 items on our loot table

[pulsar quest]

man

this new AM MT m+ build

feels fucking amazing

1.9m overall in an untimed 12 mists

woulda been a lot higher if we didnt wipe during a double pull

but it flows so nicely

[undone venture]

post it

[boreal cairn]

you say that but i did ALOT of ara kara to get mine lol

[undone venture]

i meant post the build lol

[pulsar quest]

oh lol

[undone venture]

ew aug damage

[pulsar quest]

its just the AM one

aug was wrong build too so it kinda sucked

i woulda probably been about 2.1/2.2 if he was right build and we didnt fuck the double pull

and i died once during last boss for about 15 seconds

[languid cypress]

so with AM build, are you just sending whichever combo of CD's you happen to have on a pull? try to line them up for boss?

[vast surge]

We don’t play odyn anymore?

[undone venture]

I think i did 2mil overall in a +10 mists with no aug, i will have to test this out

[chilly fractal]

you sac odyn for about the same amount of damage benefit for your st dam

VC feels really goodge tho

especially with how much you use BT in AoE and the benefit on bosses

[summer quail]

you do in some builds. i don't like it for thane tho

[weary sail]

does vicious contemp affect bloodbath?

[chilly plume]

progress

by my count boss is getting fucking shidded on

[eager thorn]

Yes

[obtuse palm]

With that AM Thane build you prioritize BT before RB on AOE right?

[pulsar quest]

yeah

[feral ivy]

So prog on mythic broodtwister and idk what I’m doing wrong but I’m 12 seconds off on every cast of reck should I just hold it and throw it up on the next set of adds or just throw it when it pops?

[languid cypress]

why is that?

[storm sundial]

you hold for each egg pop, you should have reck + BS + OF for every single one. make sure you keep hitting boss hwen you arent doing mechanics to get AM cdr

[pulsar quest]

1 it just got buffed and hits harder than RB and 2. it gives u more procs on TB

[languid cypress]

ah the TB proc is what i was missing, thanks

[pulsar quest]

plus BoP hits like a truck too

[hard widget]

Are u playing powerfull enrage?

[pulsar quest]

damn where was this graphic when i progged brood wtf

i just had to figure it out

[queen linden]

I made it lol

[pulsar quest]

lmao that makes sense then

the biggest thing with that fight, and u can watch the critcake vid about it

is you have to charge weave a lot

to generate rage and get more rampages out

[hard widget]

Not really

[pulsar quest]

Although wait

[hard widget]

Only if u play powerfull enrage

[pulsar quest]

cause after that last patch

i felt like i didnt need to as much

idk why

but before that patch like 2 weeks ago i was having to charge on CD to get reck up in time for every set

and i feel like last week i didnt struggle at all

[hard widget]

If ur not getting enough cdr with frenzied, ur probably fucking something up

[pulsar quest]

nah i played powerful

we only had 1 fdk and me

[hard widget]

Yeah well there u go

[pulsar quest]

so i was like all of our add damage

[hard widget]

Powerful enrage is very shit to play there

And tbh a bit overkill

Because its only good for killing the parasites

(Shit in the sense of its annoying to get enough cdr)

[full briar]

anyone been playing thane without crackling thunder

and has it been an issue?

[dry hawk]

I was gonna say out Fdk is just blowing adds to the shadow realm

Is there an argument to run Thane on brood

[hard widget]

No

The dmg output from thane is too slow

[dry hawk]

Ah

[hard widget]

Slayer has a lot more burst

[dry hawk]

I saw your talent build on brood tonight and played itz very bursty

[hard widget]

Yeah its very nice

I’m not playing double on use or anything, i believe i ended 3088k overal

[dry hawk]

We just started brood tonight and go her to 74%

[gleaming obsidian]

What trinket?

[dry hawk]

I've got rash trink and mark

[fallen pecan]

whats the min ilv to start raiding? / mythics

[dry hawk]

Been using rash on boss and mark add set

[hard widget]

Good luck!

[hard widget]

Meh if ur using double on use, might as well pad

[hard widget]

There is no “minimum” but u can get to 620+ pretty easily

The higher ilvl the better

[fallen pecan]

ive been doing the chromie time warp and geting the stuff from that

though how do i upgrade them?

the item pieces

it uses time warping tokens right

[hard widget]

The what now?

[fallen pecan]

this

[hard widget]

Bro ngl i have never seen that

[fallen pecan]

ive been doing this and go +20 in one day

coming from dragon flight

[hard widget]

What ilvl are u

[fallen pecan]

well this anniversary event is pretty mediorce s o

like 562

[feral ivy]

I’ll do this next time

[feral ivy]

Yea

[hard widget]

Okay, craft 4 spark items at 606, do 1 epic battleground and craft 3x more items at 610 ilvl from the medals u get, do delves tier 8 with bountiful keys for 610 hero track gear

Thats the fastest way to gear a char to a decent ish ilvl

[hard widget]

Powerful enrage is hard to get enough cdr on, play frenzied and u’ll be fine

[feral ivy]

Kk I’ll try that. I think what messes me up the most is when I have to break the eggs

[hard widget]

Just try to get as much uptime as possible, frenzied enrage will make it easier. Dont grief ur team for uptime tho

[feral ivy]

Nah Id rather die than care about my parse on prog

[tribal rapids]

So I have a question... is anyone else having trouble getting into +10s? I have a 625 ilvl, 2470 io, 3 timed 10s on record, and the rest are 2-chest 9s... in raiding, I am 8/8 H, and 2/8 M. But I cannot for the life of me get invited to a pug group. Am I missing something? Is there any suggestions about how I can maximize my opportunities to get invited to 10s?

[willow cradle]

keep applying

there are hundreds of dps applying

[tribal rapids]

It is very disheartening applying for 2-3 hours without getting a single invite

[winter shoal]

Probs a push your own key angle

You're applying against a bunch of 2600+ 630ilvl people who just want 10s for vault

And warrior kinda stinky this week bc no dispel

[tribal rapids]

I had done that for some time, but with my 9, I get 0 applicants.

Promise I am not trying to be contrarian, just trying to determine if I am missing something.

[winter shoal]

Nope that's just how it is with pug M+ as a dps

Esp a non-meta dps

[hard widget]

Its just that anything below +10 is very unrewarding, and 10/11 is full of people filling vaults

[pearl sequoia]

As someone who’s given up on io, I do be sniping 10s

[lean heart]

fellas has anyone tried AM thane with spear in keys

[tribal rapids]

its less about my io... I just wanna fill out my portals for the season... I know I got plenty of time... buit I literally spent ~4 hours today trying to get a single group for a 10, and 3 hours trying to get any form of group together for my 9 key (which got bricked from a 10 thanks fo a tank who pulled twice, died immediately and then left group), and not a single invite. I can't keep doing this

gonna burn myself out before even getting to step into a dungeon

if I have to spend 9+ hours a day to run 1 dungeon

[young swan]

yeah

spear is the same ability as roar but harder to use

0 advantage

[lean heart]

oh

no difference in dmg then?

[young swan]

best spear build = best roar build

yeah

[lean heart]

ok thanks

[eager thorn]

Try running your own key

Can’t be much worse than queueing for 9h

[tribal rapids]

I gave up after 3 hours of no applications

[lament lagoon]

Is ther a health pot that dosnt share cd with temperedd pot?

[full token]

Cmon blizz, just buff rampage 50% and be done with it.

[eager thorn]

The regular hp pots don’t?

[full token]

Find a good guild.

[lament lagoon]

idk ive been use cave dwellers

using*

[eager thorn]

Get algari health potions

[lament lagoon]

ye ok

[eager thorn]

R3 not worth but r2 pretty cheap

Like 3.6m hp or smth

[lament lagoon]

worth

[meager void]

r3 is 3.8m

the first 200k overkill is gonna hurt you emotionally

thats why Im using r3

[heavy dock]

Me with my engi bracers healing for 6m

[pale geyser]

is there a way to not get the web on ovinax besides being pre-freedomed?

[opal sapphire]

this may not matter anymore but it bugs me a bit. do we equip crafted in offhand or mainhand?

[hot sedge]

what bracer??

[sour frigate]

The highest ilvl to mainhand

[dire vigil]

If you get it, leap away and then charge back in, charge with the slayer talent removes it

[pale geyser]

ye its just rough on 1st/3rd add sets i have to just hold cds until webs go out

and my raids comp is 3 dks 2 dhs and me so the adds are getting obliterated before my bs even ends kek

perma grey parse i fear

[opal sapphire]

watcg critcakes video of the boss, will give u some good pointers as to how u play it

[pale geyser]

ye i have, just not having the pre freedom is rough for getting cd value

have to hedge so im not rooting 15 people i feel like

[opal sapphire]

idk man, i dont really struggle with it

[pale geyser]

hmm

[opal sapphire]

if people stay in my circle its kind of their fault?

[modest valve]

Can someone explain why a typical weapon choice is Wild Hammer (main hand) and Charged Claymore (offhand) instead of two Charged Claymores?

[opal sapphire]

because of ilvl

[modest valve]

So, only because the Wild Hammer is higher ilvl?

[opal sapphire]

but if you dont get or have a chance to get a 639 ilvl, then 2 crafted is ur 2nd best

yes, crafted items go to 636 max, drops from m+ 10 keys vault or mythic raid is 639

[modest valve]

Got it, thanks.

[pale geyser]

right i mean like when theres web/egg overlap, if i pop cds immediately and get webs it insta roots melee and adds are just dead before i get real value

[torpid sand]

fucking bitch. really?

[modest condor]

had that one show up today as well lol

[opal sapphire]

ye this one is kind of weird tbh, i just send it ngl. call it unlucky

you could leap out and charge in again like already pointed, but you gotta be fast about it

happened once or twice for me, the small uptime u lose is kind of whatever

especially when proggin

[pale geyser]

ye thats where im at atm is prog, just bothers me to have grey next to my name, ill get mine on reclears

[opal sapphire]

not much else to do about it unfortunately. the boss can be very punishing at random times for anybody

[pulsar quest]

Yo so here’s a great trip

If you get web

Always leap into the goop that’s spreading

Then charge in

There will never be anybody out there so you can insta clear it

And you take like 1 tick

[worthy mountain]

Ya was doing same

[crude gate]

putting this here coz theres lots of new builds going around and see people asking whats good. this is just off my sims and there are way more talent combos to try (probably).

From sim numbers only, RA Thane with VC seems best overall

M+ build sims (for me)
ST:

1. RA Slayer with VC
2. RA Thane with VC
3. RA Slayer with VC and Spear
4. RA Slayer with Odyns / AM Thane with VC (tie)
5. RA Thane with Spear
6. RA Thane with Odyns

5 targets:

1. AM Thane with VC / RA Thane with VC / RA Thane with Odyns (3 way tie)
2. RA Thane with Spear
3. RA Slayer with Odyns
4. RA Slayer with VC
5. RA Slayer with VC and Spear

[sullen dove]

[sacred quail]

VC ?

[crude gate]

vicious contempt. latest bb/bt buffs have made this strong

[sacred quail]

I see, thanks for clarifying

[indigo arch]

Bb hits like a semi truck

They missed a few zeros with the execute buff if they wanted it pressed

[ornate sable]

it got buffed by 20% right?

[crude gate]

yes

[summer crater]

1 or 2 points in it and instead of what?

Thanks

[gaunt moat]

ra with depths of insanity?

[crude gate]

yea apparently thats the play

[summer crater]

About 1.3% more ST and 1.7% less MT DPS for me compared to the guide thane build

[crude gate]

yea dw its not meant to have doi for this, was left over from am build i changed from i think

thane VC is in pinned builds

[fringe vale]

avatar with titanic or berserkers?

[summer crater]

Interesting

[crude gate]

berserkers if you dont have odyns

[summer crater]

The berserker mountain thane sims better both on AOE and ST for me

[crude gate]

yea i was referring to that one but replied with the wrong talents

thats the best one imo

[summer crater]

3.1% more ST and 0.1% more MT

[rocky locust]

Do any of you watch any Fury Warrior content on YouTube? Can you recommend any?

[silk nebula]

@mossy fox can you recommend?

[muted sequoia]

is raidbots able to sim using multiple types of gems instead of just telling me to use one gem in every slot?

[snow edge]

Yes

[snow edge]

Tick those 2 boxes if you want to force using a Meta Gem + 4 colours

[golden hare]

select the gems you want to sim and tick replace all gems/enchants and run sim ezpz

[muted sequoia]

ty

[true tapir]

is slayer good in keys? i was reading the guide and it said that thane would do more damage but it seems like the highest Raider.IO fury warrior is slayer?

[wintry breach]

How decent is the Flame wrath pole arm from Blackrock compair to other weapons as it has no main stat?

[true flint]

Question about rotation. Should I be smashing execute as soon as Sudden Death procs in order to reduce Bladestorm CD or should I be waiting for Marked for Execution stacks.

[somber elk]

hey is slayer because slayer is more fun for him

[civic fjord]

Is that noxxiv? Great role model to say play what U enjoy rather than what's best because you can make it work

[somber elk]

yes

[storm rune]

If you're running SD, then you're in ST with AJ yes? so you would try to use your SD procs to keep juggling AJ throughout the fight

[dark frost]

all is right in the world

[twilit harbor]

thanks sam, do you have an export string for RA Than with VC please?

[bronze dirge]

Hey guys new to fury here was curious if anyone has and WA’s or macros that would recommend to help a new warrior out thank you in advance

[placid lagoon]

Are the talent trees avaible aswell?

[frozen mirage]

I was just looking at statistics for survivability percentage for all dps classes on Nerubar Mythic. Why is Arms and Fury like always at the bottom? Because of our melee range or our zug zug? No for real...

[fringe vale]

11 vault

[fringe vale]

because the way the class is, downtime is a killer, so we try to maximize using our mobility kits

sometimes it fucks up

like in princess

if you play it extra safe

ull do shit dmg

so u gotta commit saving leap

for those last seconds to drop balls

[crude gate]

no sorry but my fav build is in the pinned talents (RA thane with VC)

[fringe vale]

jsut tried it

insane dam

[crude gate]

check pins

[fringe vale]

it feels actuall so much better

[crude gate]

yea and honestly it helps with start of puill threat issues, which iguess is avoid able

[fringe vale]

bc of boss dmg

[crude gate]

but without odyns its much less likely you die to threat

[fringe vale]

on 12+ its a must

imo

[oblique trail]

Long story short, people are just bad at living honestly

Anything short of one-shots, and you'd live as Fury where others wouldn't

(Except for dks)

[crude gate]

this is probably a super hot take to say in the warrior discord but i have a feeling specs like fury attract newer/worse players

because it has a reputation for being easy

plus being in melee is dangerous, short range abilities.. maybe just lots of deaths to floor swirls etc

[oblique trail]

It's not particularly hot

[radiant plank]

common knowledge

tbh

Fury most played melee after all

[oblique trail]

There's a very real community perception to how easy Fury is, but that aside it's just also very popular

[radiant plank]

or right behind ret

[oblique trail]

Likely mostly because it's stayed the same for a long time now

[smoky vale]

i think its ret > fury

idk what is after though

its impossible to do a key without a ret

[radiant plank]

after that its like

prolly alot of range specs

[smoky vale]

yeah

maybe mage

ig fotm

[oblique trail]

Hunter is easily the most popular class as a whole, at the very least BM

After ret/fury

[radiant plank]

here is parses before the first wclogs partition

so like week 1 week 2

[smoky vale]

so ret war mage fotm dh

[oblique trail]

Arcane is an outlier

[smoky vale]

mage can also be included in the fotm this expac no?

[sullen dove]

baby's first 12!!! wow!!!!

[smoky vale]

😦

😦

😦

[oblique trail]

Only there because it was the strongest perceived mage spec

[radiant plank]

Mage is always fotm/popular

[sullen dove]

kill all mages

[smoky vale]

kill you

😦

[oblique trail]

Apparently fire was also good at the time just no one played it

[sullen dove]

[radiant plank]

Fire needed a few weeks to be picked up

[smoky vale]

people just realized it cranked when thy couldnt play arcane due to a bug

🙂

[wicked gazelle]

WE ARE SO BACK (rashan and queen carrying over 6 bosses)

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fail-frisbee-gif-24192005

[radiant plank]

Too real

Here is after anniversary patch

These are normal logs btw

to try to catch more of the casual ppl

[wicked gazelle]

we need to agree between all warriors to stop padding so much

gonna be nerfed again (90 + remove adds from logs on all fights)

[smoky vale]

or

[radiant plank]

Gonna end up with queen + rashanan removed from all stars

[smoky vale]

delete logs

!

[fading sky]

Whats the cheap food we use in M++

[smoky vale]

beledar

bounty

[wicked gazelle]

LUL

[smoky vale]

shh

[wicked gazelle]

just saying last reclear i out padded a fury on arms

[smoky vale]

xd

[oblique trail]

It is very cool looking at the overall damage on queen prog

[smoky vale]

does dev wl also do big dam on ansurek

at least p3

[radiant plank]

Very xD

[oblique trail]

After the buffs I'm consistently in the top 3 going into p2, even without really using anything during intermission

[wicked gazelle]

competing vs no specs is the way

[radiant plank]

But tbf this log specifically was played to furys strenghts

warrior was only one sending cds on adds till he couldnt

then the rest would

[wicked gazelle]

i didnt wanna respec, easy rank 1s trying to beat the other 3 people in the world playing arms on broodtwister

feral 100 parses perma

[oblique trail]

We won't be doing this, but I'm solo warrior so I won't have anyone to compete with

[smoky vale]

im the only fury in raid now

https://tenor.com/bnc40.gif

[radiant plank]

Seems silly to not do this banezi

[wicked gazelle]

having 2 warriors on fights like queen and rashan heavily lower your dps levels

[smoky vale]

also

[wicked gazelle]

solo warriors do significantly more

[smoky vale]

i dont have enough haste to hit 45s reck

i tested

[wicked gazelle]

even looking at a fight like broodtwister, fury logs that do and dont have a frost dk

[radiant plank]

you only need like 20%

[smoky vale]

unless i change to lower ilevel

[radiant plank]

with frenzied

[smoky vale]

i get 51 with 100%

idk

[wicked gazelle]

I had 1 pull ever on prog where our fdk accidently sent breath on pull, i did like 250k more than normal on first egg break

[smoky vale]

i can record it next time

[oblique trail]

We're gonna be moving lust way up ahead to account for all the damage buffs, and on top of that I basically solo the spiders in p3

[smoky vale]

but its legit impossible

[radiant plank]

Bwoah okay

good strat

[smoky vale]

i was playing +4s reck

felt cosmetic

[oblique trail]

I'll likely also bring it up if we find out I do no damage anyway to 2nd add set

Will see how it looks

[radiant plank]

You should get of + bs for it no?

[oblique trail]

I also likely wouldn't even have to ask for people to blast adds

Yeah you always have of and bs for 2nd adds

But big diffie between all cds and that

[radiant plank]

should be way more than enough

tell some enha to throw tempest to those

and problem solved

[oblique trail]

Our enhance already sometimes outdamages me on silken tomb damage

[radiant plank]

xdd

[oblique trail]

And people like to complain about fury burst

[smoky vale]

🙂

[wicked gazelle]

lmao entire add mechanic on a mythic boss - "yo enhance yeet a tempest at that ty"

[smoky vale]

do you remember when enhance got nerfed alongside us

[radiant plank]

Enha burst is harder to setup

[smoky vale]

and they said it was like a 10% nerf

[radiant plank]

since you need to bank 2 tempests

whilst fury is just mongo

[wicked gazelle]

press glowy button

[oblique trail]

I won't deny that fury burst is piss easy

But other specs if they have a few extra seconds can outdo it

[radiant plank]

Yeah thats very true

[wicked gazelle]

thats the issue with the nerfs to start with

mobs died before they could setup

so blizz just paniced and assume it was broken

[oblique trail]

Maybe arms was the play after all where the burst was just ok but more spread out

[wicked gazelle]

arms mainains more i believe right

[summer quail]

it was definetely broken in the beginning. the odyns and bladestorm nerf was completely justified, the ones after not so much

[radiant plank]

But you need to invest quite heavily

[wicked gazelle]

but no adds in raid are up for that long 90% are couple seconds of nuke

[radiant plank]

for arms

[wicked gazelle]

the way it was before, we would still have lost out to multiple specs when m+ came out and a pack could live for more than 30 seconds

[radiant plank]

Colossus can do a fairly good job of bursting something with minimal investment

[oblique trail]

I am also meming for you wouldn't find me playing that spec this tier unless I had a good reason to

[radiant plank]

Cant blame you

[summer quail]

yes but in raid we would have been insane, and blizz balances for raid mostly

[smoky vale]

buff ms

grr

[south kayak]

Can’t believe blizzard is changing/buffing all these racials and they forget the actual worst one

[radiant plank]

Velf buffed

kek

[south kayak]

Undead

[oblique trail]

Swapped from it to dracthyr but don't regret it

Even if they fix visage

[south kayak]

How do you forget to buff undead racial

They’re so bad

[oblique trail]

I'm too DH pilled from it being my 2nd main to live without glide now

[south kayak]

I just can’t

[smoky vale]

real undead racial

noob

[south kayak]

Touch of the grave is horrifyingly bad

How is that a dps racial

.1%

[gilded pawn]

Is it actually that bad

[south kayak]

Dps

[gilded pawn]

I thought it ends up being like 1%

I don’t know tho

[south kayak]

No way lol

I played undead and that thing never exceeds .2%

[gilded pawn]

Oh I was thinking of something else

Yeah it’s bad

[south kayak]

And yet they don’t update it in the newest post

[gilded pawn]

have you tried being cute

like vulp

[south kayak]

The maghar buff is insane

It’s already good for 2m classes

And now it’s probably going to be bis

[smoky vale]

@radiant plank can you tell me if im doing my opener wrong

i swear im doing the brood opener

and i just cant get 45

or 49

[oblique trail]

Reck + Charge -> OF -> Roar -> Ramp -> BS -> Ramp -> Proceed

There's your opener

[radiant plank]

ty banezi

[oblique trail]

You can OF mid charge to save a tiny bit of extra time

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/bTank.gif

its impossible

[oblique trail]

It's not 👍

[smoky vale]

idk

im shit

[oblique trail]

I got my reck consistently with 24% haste no frenzied

[smoky vale]

wtf

[oblique trail]

I also used Depths of Insanity however instead of Bloodcraze

[summer quail]

need to press rampage more gio

[smoky vale]

I DID IT

but i changed nothign

UIdjkdk

i think the difference for me

omg

i just realized why

banezi is the goat

[radiant plank]

Charge weave too

[smoky vale]

nah

i just missed ramp before bs

every pull

[radiant plank]

xD

[smoky vale]

i did it subconsciously, then reread banezi message

https://tenor.com/bYXc2.gif

the one thing i dont get is

i was copying wes

charge reck roar of bs

he was able to get it 45ish every time

idk

[wicked gazelle]

make pad adds live longer

[oblique trail]

Idk who Wes is

But Gajeel does the same as I mentioned and did during prog

And Gajeel is just built diff

[radiant plank]

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/tichondrius/illhitu

[oblique trail]

Oh Illhitu

[smoky vale]

idk

[oblique trail]

I don't think the ramp is needed, it's just what I thought of on prog to make me get that one extra ramp cast in to make it more consistent

[smoky vale]

i think he precasts reck like 2-3 before pull

that would be only wya i can find

[oblique trail]

I did that for a portion of my prog

[radiant plank]

just check the buff

[smoky vale]

because he had less haste

[oblique trail]

Does he use Frenzied though

[smoky vale]

what buff?

yeah hes frenzied

[clever path]

he's playing frenzied

[smoky vale]

so am i

[oblique trail]

Right

[smoky vale]

so it just doesnt make sense to me

no way

he held reck for first egg set

was first kill though

[radiant plank]

check his buffs

did he have reck when the fight started

[oblique trail]

He did indeed hold it

[smoky vale]

he held

[gilded pawn]

That’s dedication to pad

Jesus

[wicked gazelle]

i held reck for first add set xD

[smoky vale]

but he has been doing the same thing every reclear

[wicked gazelle]

its like DB OF and BS on pull

[oblique trail]

Tbf at the time it was basically mandatory to follow the egg sets as Fury and not mess up your CDs

[smoky vale]

opener

not holding reck

[oblique trail]

Now you can miss a reck for an egg set and be more than fine

[wicked gazelle]

you get bs back by the time first eggs pop

[smoky vale]

its not the bs

[oblique trail]

BS is never the worry

Because of both MfE and AM

[wicked gazelle]

then i have my 'kitchen sink' macro that uses every cd and it lines perfectly for each egg set

[smoky vale]

this one

he pre popped reck 4 sec before

[wicked gazelle]

reck on pull illigal less pad avalible

oooo that is good

[oblique trail]

Reck on pull is in fact not illegal

Unless you're just incapable of getting it back for first eggs

[smoky vale]

yeah it seems

the tech is to just pres 4 seconds before

xd

[wicked gazelle]

during prog i wasnt getting it back

[smoky vale]

if you dont ramp before bs

[oblique trail]

During my prog, even pre-2 sec egg break change I got it back pretty consistently for 1st set

Was my most recent reclear

First kill 2 weeks prior

We sadly didn't kill tho before the 2 sec change, but it'd be fine nonetheless

[wicked gazelle]

tbh i hadnt tried on pull reck post nerf

[smoky vale]

thank you for the help banezi

🙂

[oblique trail]

Post nerf it's extremely free

[smoky vale]

FUCK BROODTWISTER

[wicked gazelle]

and both rekills ive been arms since i specced it for princess and silken

and am a cheap bastard

[smoky vale]

yesterday i didnt get to prog because someone got in a car accident and roster moment

[wicked gazelle]

selfish

[smoky vale]

person was fine though

[wicked gazelle]

imagine getting into a car accident

cant be good for logs

[oblique trail]

Just kill with your Arms gear or

[smoky vale]

^

[oblique trail]

Surely you didn't throw away all remotely good Fury jewelry

[smoky vale]

surely

[wicked gazelle]

more gems and chants

it was post nerf 1 shots anyways so was just w/e

let the frost dk have a blast and do 20% more dps xD

[smoky vale]

real

[oblique trail]

Brood is one of those bosses imo that should just stay consistent between reclears

Because no one wants to wipe on that garbage boss

Especially due to damage that was there on prog, but not there anymore

[wicked gazelle]

with nerfs its harder to wipe

you can run to the wrong eggs twice and still make it

[oblique trail]

We've not had that yet so can't say

[wicked gazelle]

we are like sub 60% when boss starts moving too second section

[oblique trail]

I reckon most guilds who killed a month ago have that

We had him go to P3 with 20%~ hp on our 17th October kill