fury

[hard widget]

Realistically even if u do it isnt even the end of the world

[restive peak]

Problem for AM slayer, imo, is it begins to compete for RB/BT

[acoustic yoke]

That's weeks of monkey minded brain conditioning I need to avoid xd

[pulsar quest]

u dont have to even worry about OF enrage

[restive peak]

So many RB ramps, but reap is so strong

RA Slayer gives it a clear direction

[heavy dock]

thane ra or am?

[hard widget]

I dont advice it, but its not THAT big of a deal

[hard widget]

Imo RA

[pulsar quest]

i just enjoy playing RA tbh

[nimble ermine]

i actually love that i dont have to press OF on thane

[pulsar quest]

the RA BoP procs are real

[restive peak]

I truly can't see the RA thane as better than AM, IDK. I'll try some of that as well post raid

In Silken jail

[acoustic yoke]

I'm also a PE enjoyer so that is also probably why it feels strange too

[pulsar quest]

almost there, 40% on a princess last night

[nimble ermine]

i mean at that point just play slayer

[pulsar quest]

hopefully kill tonight

[nimble ermine]

you can make it work

[heavy dock]

is there a new ra clappa build?

[snow edge]

I think part of that is subjective feel, you enjoy AM more so you’ll lean that direction

[frank rover]

good

[heavy dock]

id wanna try it too

[nimble ermine]

no

its the same

[frank rover]

your boy is ilvl 632 with a champion ring

[heavy dock]

like anything different?

[hard widget]

I enjoy AM Slayer most, unforch it aint the best 😦

[heavy dock]

no of for vc?

[frank rover]

i just cant get a ring

[heavy dock]

or just of

[young swan]

[hard widget]

I play AM slayer in homework keys

[frank rover]

what do people enjoy about AM

the roleplay?

[nimble ermine]

am slayer with spear

[pliant jackal]

you are the black sheep of the family lmao

[snow edge]

Yeh; I guess 3/4 specs being close (?) is not bad though

[nimble ermine]

uptime is fun

[heavy dock]

having cds up :D

[acoustic yoke]

Cds being up every pack

[void willow]

Am slayer

[summer quail]

more cds, makes it feel like you're not just doing damage every 90 sec

[acoustic yoke]

Sometimes twice in a pack

[manic pelican]

Is OF dead on multi?

[acoustic yoke]

No

[nimble ermine]

i come from lost ark where uptime was king

[acoustic yoke]

But it's not great

[hard widget]

I mean it depends what ur going for in terms of routing and the key, but yes it CAN be close. But if u play all builds optimally RA Thane is ahead

[pulsar quest]

633 with no myth weapon or trinkets 😔 ✊

[restive peak]

I mean no, I think thanes kit aligns with AM far better due to the BT synergy

[hard widget]

Thats not true

[restive peak]

I don't have emotional attachments to specs, really, I play what performs

[robust basin]

Any changes to our builds with the new buffs?

[frank rover]

[acoustic yoke]

It's not greater than it used to be*

[nimble ermine]

i mean having to delay your burst of power procs to get 2 bbs

[frank rover]

im not gonna have trinkets for a long time if i keep getting random stuff in vault

[nimble ermine]

feels ass

[hard widget]

It is tho

[restive peak]

I personally believe thanes overall kit favours AM, and slayers overall kit favours RA; that's my opinion thusfar, and my experience thusfar is that they're the 2 "top performers"

I'm also not Revvez, so we'll see with more people testing them all

[hard widget]

RA thane actually works perfectly in ur opener

[acoustic yoke]

OF is better than when it wasn't 5 softcapped?

[restive peak]

OF is dead

[nimble ermine]

idk for me it just felt clunkier

[heavy dock]

even for ra?

[acoustic yoke]

Tbf I'm not smort so maybe I'm not getting what u mean Jev

[midnight obsidian]

guys

[nimble ermine]

i mean i just much prefer AM on thane

[midnight obsidian]

can i farm tashalach on a priest?

[pulsar quest]

crit making me wonder about this colossus arms build a lil ..

[pliant jackal]

Thane AM hurts my hand to play lol

[pulsar quest]

hes kinda doing some dam

[nimble ermine]

ye

[midnight obsidian]

cool thanks

[acoustic yoke]

Does it drop?

[restive peak]

Yeah the arms cook is pretty good as well

But like...it's arms so

[acoustic yoke]

Doesn't it just personal drop for the class

[pulsar quest]

i just cant bring myself to play this version of arms

[sage karma]

Finally got curve in pugs

85 wipes

[pulsar quest]

it just feels so off

[acoustic yoke]

And not as loot itself?

[sage karma]

shame my dps sucks

[clever belfry]

just do more dps then

[sage karma]

it feels pretty jank, I hate that there's 2 different buffs to track lmao whereas fury feels chill af

[midnight obsidian]

i threw in my mouth

[pliant jackal]

Starting playing Fury since DF arms felt like shit to play

[pulsar quest]

fury just flows...arms feels so clunky

no matter what hero spec

[hard widget]

Why? u need to kick in keys x)

[pliant jackal]

and this xpac arms doesn't feel much better

[nimble ermine]

dunno probably im wrong, heard a while back it just drops for any1 to transmog

[pulsar quest]

and im ALWAYS an arms enjoyer

[frank rover]

i don't like rend on arms

[clever belfry]

ah yes rend

[acoustic yoke]

As in in general?

Or u hate rend in aoe?

[clever belfry]

the culprit behind arms bad design

[acoustic yoke]

Why is rend catching strays?

[midnight obsidian]

isn't rend like super simple now

[acoustic yoke]

[midnight obsidian]

even auto applying during execute or something

[pulsar quest]

nah i dont like skullsplitter gameplay either tbh

[nimble ermine]

rend killed my family

[frank rover]

wait it autoapplies on execute?

[void willow]

Skullsplitter

[acoustic yoke]

Yes

[pulsar quest]

having to constanty refresh rend constantly due to skullsplitter is kinda annoying

[midnight obsidian]

i read something like that

[void willow]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-brotha-eww-meme-eww-eww-gif-gif-1452572770363109714

[frank rover]

do i even need it bound

[acoustic yoke]

Yes

[pulsar quest]

yes

it onyl auto applies in execute range

[acoustic yoke]

Cause what will you use pre-execute?

Rend is probably the least worrisome thing for arms

[midnight obsidian]

whats the duration on rend even nowadays

24s?

[pulsar quest]

its long but it gets shortened due to SS

its not bad to keep up with..just kinda annoying

[restive peak]

New arms build doesn't use it for M+

[serene vessel]

@restive peak im just now getting back to my fury war, whats the prio for thane AM gmaeplay?

[restive peak]

Ramp >>>>>>>>>

[acoustic yoke]

What I hate is the big bang that was Fatality being a dead talent

Because it scales with fuck all

[restive peak]

BT on CD, send all 3 when avail, TB is ahead of everything except ramp

[pulsar quest]

I think they should just make MFE stacks feel like BoP procs

[tulip swallow]

fatality is a mess, yeah

[restive peak]

On ST you RB to build up, otherwise honestly you don't press RB a ton

[pulsar quest]

a 3x MfE execute should hit for 2m like a BoP bloodbath crit

and that hero spec would feel goated

[acoustic yoke]

I'm sure arms will feel uber godly in like s3

[midnight obsidian]

class with 32423847 bleeds scaling hard with gear

hmm where i heard that

[tardy lark]

[pulsar quest]

every tier you will get the question "does arms still scale with gear?"

and this discord will always tell you no

[serene vessel]

TB im assuming only when we have TB buff, right?

[tardy lark]

dracthyr are the only ones that scale

[acoustic yoke]

But also 11.0.7 or 11.1 is warrior rework trust

[midnight obsidian]

the fuck you need rework for

[pulsar quest]

mods can we time this guy out for 24h

[nimble ermine]

warrior rework tomorrow

i saw it

[tardy lark]

[acoustic yoke]

A lot of capstones need god that's what

[pliant jackal]

I wouldn't mind a rework on arms. Fury is fine how it has been

[pulsar quest]

ive been in love with fury gameplay this tier

tuning..not as much

[midnight obsidian]

the goated fury gameplay was emerald nightmare and nighthold if you exclude being a draught of souls merchant

[young swan]

name a good capstone

[midnight obsidian]

this season is up there somewhere

[pulsar quest]

didnt play during that xpac heard it was bad

[midnight obsidian]

blasphemy

[acoustic yoke]

Idk I barely play warr as is till this expac sp DF s2 was all I know

[pulsar quest]

Kappa

[acoustic yoke]

I have no nostalgia to experience

[restive peak]

Yeah but TC to keep up ww stacks, as you would with WW

[pulsar quest]

bring back arms from Wrath...so simple and so effective

[midnight obsidian]

bring back that tactical or tactician off gcd thing

that was fun

carpal tunnel inducing

[pulsar quest]

rend proccing overpower and OP hitting like a truck

better days

[midnight obsidian]

community uproaring

[acoustic yoke]

Bring back condemn? Please?

[pliant jackal]

capstone from shadowlands?

[acoustic yoke]

[pulsar quest]

if you watch your animation during execute u actually have condemn

[midnight obsidian]

your next rampage will deal more damage now

[pulsar quest]

so there u go

[pliant jackal]

Kyrian was so fun in shadowlands

[sudden tusk]

mroe like get rid of condemn

[midnight obsidian]

i actually hated sl fury

[acoustic yoke]

Unhinged

[summer quail]

unhinged(that's it)

[sudden tusk]

shit ass animation ruins execute timing

[young swan]

only mid

nice try

[acoustic yoke]

Damn

[young swan]

maybe if it cleaved

[nimble ermine]

tenderize

[young swan]

it would be good

[tidal kindle]

Yah tenderize

Is banger

Problem is ons sucks

[summer quail]

with the buffs this week i think it got promoted to good @young swan

[acoustic yoke]

Tenderize my nuts

[nimble ermine]

chimken tendie capstone

[pulsar quest]

mmm

chimken tendie

[acoustic yoke]

Tbf I don't mind tenderize

But like the Charmeleon said

[tidal kindle]

But why would you listen to xan anyway

[young swan]

our best aoe capstone is a pure ST talent

[acoustic yoke]

Ons sucks

[young swan]

that is bad

[tidal kindle]

🤏 sim

[plush ravine]

Are the guides updated bros?

[tidal kindle]

He doesn't know what a good capstone is

[midnight obsidian]

im waiting for kelade's opinion on capstones

i'll let you know

[restive peak]

^ LMAO

It's so true

And so bad

[nimble ermine]

yep

[young swan]

garms thinks arms is good because it does good damage

btw

just in case u thought he was unbiased

[tidal kindle]

When did I ever say that

[nimble ermine]

even pre nerf OF wasnt TR just a nice qol

[tidal kindle]

[tardy lark]

you give the man 1 rank 1

[acoustic yoke]

What about the alternative capstone? Isn't that a real banger?

[nimble ermine]

like you could give it up

[restive peak]

Garms prefers only 1 weapon confirmed

Can't handle 2

[tardy lark]

and suddenly he likes the spec

smh

[young swan]

yep!

[tidal kindle]

WHEN DID I EVER SAY ANY OF THIS?

[summer quail]

bad design i agree. strong talent tho

[young swan]

wacky!

[restive peak]

We have the receipts but the courts won't let us release

Brb need 20m with photoshop

[modest condor]

typical garms smh

[tardy lark]

i dont know, im just piling on mate @tidal kindle

[young swan]

only strong because the other options are so dogshit you prefer tier 2 stat nodes over them

[tardy lark]

@oblique trail pile on

[tidal kindle]

If the receipts aren't admissable are they even receipts?

[nimble ermine]

i didnt play df, did they just randomly decide to nuke UF going into twiw for like no reason?

[midnight obsidian]

blue>yellow you automatically lose this arguement

[tidal kindle]

We had near 99% reck uptime

[summer quail]

oh yeah, our other capstones are so unbelievably garbage

[tidal kindle]

In DF

[nimble ermine]

oh

[tidal kindle]

So they did the classic

Nerf everything all at once

[restive peak]

Just trust me

[acoustic yoke]

I must ask though

[modest condor]

at least they reverted the AM nerf

[tidal kindle]

True

[pulsar quest]

wait am i tripping is it better to just slam every SD on a ST fight as fury slayer, just for the opener

to get jugg stacked ASAP

[acoustic yoke]

Why did they make the arms version of torment not the BS but instead the SS one?

[tidal kindle]

You still send at 3x mark or 2x SD

[pulsar quest]

okay does 2x SD prio over BB or CB

[acoustic yoke]

Not even

[tidal kindle]

Other globals are better, better chaining jugg value, and more efficient BS CDR

[pulsar quest]

Cause i pretty much only exe at 3x mfe, or SD about to drop off, or jugg about to fall off

but at 2x SD makes sense

[acoustic yoke]

The dream pull of having near 15 jugg stacks b4 execute phase

Then it all taken away by a wipe call

[midnight obsidian]

or 54 stacks on wrath of azshara

[acoustic yoke]

I'm kinda glad jugg only goes up to 15 stacks

[pulsar quest]

imagine we could do the mage focus target bug for MfE stacks and stack it to 255

and just hit a fatty

[acoustic yoke]

Losing 99 must have been certified pain

[midnight obsidian]

never saw 99

[acoustic yoke]

Like the loss of a loved one level

[midnight obsidian]

and if you're at 99

[acoustic yoke]

Well anything in the realm of high basically

[midnight obsidian]

you probably dont lose it

[acoustic yoke]

Not necessarily 99

[midnight obsidian]

yea it sucked

[nimble ermine]

before they rework woryor

can they make fury execute do damage

[acoustic yoke]

No

[smoky vale]

no

[nimble ermine]

fuck you

[acoustic yoke]

Bloodthirst will be your execute now

[midnight obsidian]

how much rage does execute generate

[acoustic yoke]

Like 10?

[nimble ermine]

i want my target to explode if i execute it

[acoustic yoke]

I generally never pay attention

[midnight obsidian]

me neither but it feels a lot more

[pliant jackal]

didnt we have a talent an execute would increase rampage damage

[acoustic yoke]

To execute regeneration ngl

[pliant jackal]

awhile ago

[acoustic yoke]

Make juggernaut but instead it ramps up the next rampage

Up to 1400% dmg increase

[fossil vessel]

so whats the rotation for the thane am build do i just ramp as soon as i can and use bt/cb to fill, when i get reck up that i get enough rage for rampage in 1 bt do i just bt>rampage>bt>rampage over and over?

[tidal kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/13DTVUuY6djtwyZ9t69dJn
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wpDAeT6ZChNHihNA3wr5VQ
Arms doesn't even do more than fury....

[fossil vessel]

ig i can replace 1 bt for thunder clap

[tidal kindle]

[fossil vessel]

when its aoe

[smoky vale]

go play arms

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/i5JalRtWHpr.gif

[nimble ermine]

no!

[brittle crow]

can some1 do me a favor
what orc fury animation does an orc fdk do when pressing frost strike

[nimble ermine]

doodoo spec

[smoky vale]

press bb then

[acoustic yoke]

What?

Like record the animation for you?

[brittle crow]

no

just answer in words

[nimble ermine]

so the orc moves his arms

[acoustic yoke]

And moves it in an arc of 85 degrees

Across it's target

[brittle crow]

diagonally up-left or up-right tho

is it bloodthirst or is it slam

[nimble ermine]

towards the moon because its colder

[acoustic yoke]

Pretty sure it's up right

I do have an orc dk but cba getting out of bed to verify

So trust me

[brittle crow]

trust

[acoustic yoke]

I prefer the Ztroll animation tbf

But also I'm sure there is a YouTube video that has all the weapon animations for races

Low-key vulpera ones are the best

But cba having to swim in a 1 inch pool of water again

[tidal kindle]

Vulpera goated animations and model size

But shit racial

🪦

[midnight obsidian]

shit

[brittle crow]

bigger models r better..

[midnight obsidian]

we can be dracthyr now right

[acoustic yoke]

If you mean bag of tricks then ye

[midnight obsidian]

how is dragon warrior

[acoustic yoke]

If your talking about the tent though

I must disagree

Also they have extra bag space

[brittle crow]

bag space been solved for a long time now

if ur not a disorganized hoarder

[coral dock]

I thought i saw an update where they increased the amount of bronze tokens that we get? my quests are still only giving me 3 each

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah but they have more to meet my hoarder needs

[acoustic yoke]

As in racially?

Aesthetically?

Spiritually?

[nimble ermine]

racially

[brittle crow]

the dragon warrior is a pandaren

[nimble ermine]

hm

[acoustic yoke]

Kung-fu Pandaly?

[summer quail]

it's aight, not the best not the worst. if you are progging queen ansurek mythic it is insane for that fight specifically

[acoustic yoke]

Cause glide goes hard?

[summer quail]

cause you cancel the yoink

by double jumping

[acoustic yoke]

Is that how that is supposed to work?

Also isn't the timing uber fast?

[summer quail]

who knows, but it does

[digital plover]

hey i have a question, whats is it the best hero talent for MM+ ? slayer now ? or always mountain ?

[acoustic yoke]

Depends

[summer quail]

eh you just walk out a bit then do it and it seems fine, seen noxiv do it

[acoustic yoke]

What kind of keys you talking?

[acoustic yoke]

Fair nuff

[digital plover]

10-11-12

[acoustic yoke]

Thane is my preference at those ranges

[raven sorrel]

what do you drop again to get bitter immunity?

[midnight obsidian]

im gonna try it i think

[acoustic yoke]

Nothing?

[midnight obsidian]

also guys

big

[digital plover]

okay thx u 🙂

[acoustic yoke]

Mouth doggo goes hard

[acoustic yoke]

Npnp

[acoustic yoke]

Haven't stepped foot into that raid since I got all 3 of the rare weps

[midnight obsidian]

i just wanted taeshalach

but i'll take it

[acoustic yoke]

But now that it's all able to be added to transmog

I may go for some sets

While also skipping the worst fight known to man

Bloons Tower Defence

[midnight obsidian]

skips are also account bound now

[raven sorrel]

what do you drop again to get bitter immunity?

[acoustic yoke]

Yeah

[brittle crow]

u dont

[acoustic yoke]

^

[summer quail]

if you like the look of a race just play that race(unless vulpera they are trash)

[acoustic yoke]

Bitter immunity is a trap

[raven sorrel]

for the affix?

[acoustic yoke]

Yes

[summer quail]

healer affix

press impending victory

[brittle crow]

affix requires healer to tab back into game for 2 seconds

[acoustic yoke]

Anyone that can dispell makes it a non factor

[brittle crow]

not ur problem

[acoustic yoke]

And impending with thane does like 90% of the work

[midnight obsidian]

i dont ask my healer to kill mobs

so they shouldnt ask me to heal

[acoustic yoke]

Hey

Wtf

Vulpera are great

[brittle crow]

the only BAD race is mechagnome

vulpera are cool

[acoustic yoke]

Bag of tricks just sucks so much

[pliant jackal]

i feel like a loser playing horde when all the key runners are night elfs lol

[acoustic yoke]

I thought lightforged were sick

[brittle crow]

stick to ur principles

alliance smelly

horde strong

[acoustic yoke]

I play night elf to survive my zug zig brain

[midnight obsidian]

meanwhile actual horde that literally never won a war unless they sided with alliance against a bigger threat

its a tough life

[brittle crow]

yea but we've been the direct cause of like, half of the expansions

so

[acoustic yoke]

Actual Horde if they just did war crimes with my boi Garrosh instead of having a conscience or some shit

[brittle crow]

real..

[restive peak]

We are dwarves friend

[smoky vale]

^

[acoustic yoke]

Ew

Dwarves

[pliant jackal]

buff horde racials

[restive peak]

I actually hate being a dwarf but

[acoustic yoke]

I psychologically can't play any short race but vulpera

[restive peak]

It's too good this season

[pliant jackal]

I used to play gnome warrior because of the root break lol

[smoky vale]

sr moment

[acoustic yoke]

Ideal world all racials are flavored utility and aren't better than any other

Cause that's how we get the blood elf days back

Silence this, silence that

[pliant jackal]

I was thinking of race changing form troll to belf

[acoustic yoke]

Just silence

[midnight obsidian]

80% of the priests are still playing goblin

[acoustic yoke]

That one is more a class issue tbf

[summer quail]

it's always insane i feel like

[acoustic yoke]

You need all the mobility you can get as a man of the cloth

It is

Unless u have a season with 0 dispells

Or one where everything can be solved by one short aoe dispell

[restive peak]

Ye but not this necessary

[hard widget]

Idk i dont feel like dwarf is needed almost at all

Maybe its just me, but i dont miss it in the slightest

[smoky vale]

you are nelf instead right

[restive peak]

IDK man Keen was hella on us to go dwarf, it has saved a lot

[hard widget]

U mean for raid?

[restive peak]

No for M+

Helps a lot in several instances, it's def more useful than meld

[acoustic yoke]

Meld use is not as high as stoneform for sure

But also melding last boss NW is my guilty pleasure so

[smoky vale]

100% crit sucks huh

[acoustic yoke]

Well it depends when it's your turn

If ur somehow the 3rd one and boss is almost dead then it's like what's the point

If ur first then yeah that's fine

If your mage uses invis to escape while his ramping and suddenly you are targeted

And then you Meld so it goes back on him it's worth

BTW I assume that them making another cantrip ring for a .7 patch means they want it to be of use for awhile right?

[gilded pawn]

Yeah

[acoustic yoke]

And not nerf the fuck out of it because it cannibalised any other ring

[gilded pawn]

If it’s bad they’ll probably buff it giga until it’s not

Then in the .1 patch they’ll nerf it to the ground

[lapis grotto]

whats the best M+ build now with buffs?

any changes?

[acoustic yoke]

Fool me twice type beat

[acoustic yoke]

Nothing has particularly changed

Ur still running what you'd run b4

But it's buffed

[heavy dock]

how viable are 2 on use trinkets for am?

[hard widget]

Its shit

People use it to pad harder on broodtwister

[midnight obsidian]

its good for ovinax if you need add damage

[half pond]

Heroic leap still works on NW:s last boss?

[summer quail]

yes

[half pond]

Nice 👌

[lapis grotto]

arms competitive now?

m+?

[heavy dock]

whats the timing tho i never get it down

[summer quail]

need to be in the air as the projectile hits you

[acoustic yoke]

I want to say yes but I have yet for it to actually work for me for some reason

Oh you meant that leap tech

[ebon pike]

is it better to go thane or slayer for heroic ansurek?

[acoustic yoke]

Slayer

[eager stirrup]

multitarget build seems to be performing better on mythic sikran or maybe it was just a one time anomaly

[acoustic yoke]

One cause AOE is how your going to top that fight

And B because burst is very good there

[ebon pike]

ty 👍

[covert blaze]

what is this tech

you dont get sent down?

i didnt play warrior in SL

[heavy dock]

yeah

but u die after 1 min

or smth like that

[hard widget]

^

Its usually still worth to do tho

[covert blaze]

i played shadowlands for 1 season and a half now that i think about

[keen fulcrum]

Just ate shit on a H Sikran. 🙂 Thought I was parsing good too fawk me.

[sage karma]

I can't parse good

[bleak bluff]

guys i saw critcakes video and it seems arms is better in dmage compared to fury(M+) did i see this correctly?!

[sage karma]

only 620 ilvl with shitty weapons

[tidal kindle]

@summer quail how

Did I get knocked

And nova debuff

[chrome relic]

how about the reflect timing on last boss of siege

thats one i can never hit

[covert blaze]

that happens if the wave from the other soak is too close to you when you get knocked, no?

@tidal kindle

cause the nova has verticality

[neat gazelle]

why do i suck

[pliant jackal]

.............

[neat gazelle]

tear me apart i know

havent played wow in a while haha

[astral path]

i think they're pretty close

prob preference

i know for a fact if i switched to arms id do 50% less damage

[tidal kindle]

[pliant jackal]

damage break down tells people nothing

[neat gazelle]

ok what do you need to determine if im dog doo doo or not

[pliant jackal]

post a boss log and go to #449510248579858432

[hard widget]

But posting pictures of details is more fun

[neat gazelle]

yes everyone can pick fun haha

[lean wasp]

Whose got an "advanced" arms guide ? Wanna try it out, havent touched it since s3

Arms channel seems dead just sayin

[junior gale]

0 context details overall screenshots go hard

[neat gazelle]

what doesnt go hard is my dps

[keen fulcrum]

Spit them facts, youngblood.

[hard widget]

Arms

[keen fulcrum]

Get boss to 35%, press Execute.

[restive peak]

Pls come kill the court for me

[junior gale]

gotta hit the books https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[lean wasp]

Thanks a lot guys

[hard widget]

Linc

[neat gazelle]

hitting pronto

[summer quail]

big noober

ngl grams, i saw the title and thought for a second you were playing dota 2

[neat gazelle]

i just want to pump

i want the girls to be like wow he pumps

[keen fulcrum]

You play a warrior. It'll never happen.

[neat gazelle]

i want my rampage to bring all the girls to the yard

[restive peak]

Yas queen

[lean wasp]

I think roar damage is kinda low am gonna assume you forget to press it or use it badly, probably too much execute presses i think, and maybe meat cleaver up time isn't that great

[neat gazelle]

noob

give me 5 minutes in a chat with you

ill $$

[lean wasp]

I haven't played in a week not to mention the new patch

Am just making assumptions based on what most people might f up as fury

[neat gazelle]

you want to throw up

get a trash bag

i dont use keybinds.. im a clicker

[lean wasp]

Like at all ?

[neat gazelle]

i use my little mouse hand thing to click all my spells

my finger is black and blue

[flat bear]

Is arms beating us in m+ now?

[restive peak]

Seem pretty even, arms has some issues though

Mostly general tankiness

[lean wasp]

I used to click a lot of stuff back in SL, i was doing ok but it was stressful trust me try to add new keybinds key by key it will feel better over time

[wheat estuary]

so whats the go to for highish M+ now?

[lean wasp]

Ok maybe i should reconsider arms

[neat gazelle]

arms is for noobs

https://tenor.com/view/bye-felicia-hiding-humiliated-leave-me-alone-girl-bye-gif-21567771

[keen fulcrum]

Real men of genius just continue to play Thane Fury babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[lean wasp]

I just have this craving to try demolish

[keen fulcrum]

Fuck tht

Thunder clap go boom

[hardy cargo]

demolish is fun

[keen fulcrum]

Thunder clap go boom more fun

[hardy cargo]

like amonth ago now i had a 17m crit on first boss of mists with it shit was hilarious

[lean wasp]

Hmm

I have a feeling we are getting buffed again soon

[keen fulcrum]

I didn't really feel the buff in ST.

But i'm also dogshit.

[lean wasp]

Its based on the fact that literally most class changes that i know about made no sense so it makes sense to buff warriors, makes sense ?

Like the ele and frost dk buffs on patch day

Or nerfing the sanlyn bdk which they were trying to buff a couple weeks earlier but still wasn't playable and then they buffed again

[willow egret]

Mastery at 40 to get good deals?

[lean wasp]

Yes

I thought you meant " is 40% good?"

[analog python]

In high keys (12+) i Expected people to be playing moutain thane, but most people are playing slayer --- how come?

[lean wasp]

Just an assumption but probably cuz ST

[willow egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bfm7uFrCvzo7gHcCaXSLk9

I asked because I was curious because it didn't seem to give a deal compared to the item level.

[lean wasp]

Thane should be better sustain aoe which isn't bad in 12+

[compact knot]

does authority of radiant power have the same proc chance/uptime as stonebound artistry (wep enchants)

[willow egret]

Can you check my simc and give me some advice?

[pliant jackal]

1 target 5 minute sim

[lean wasp]

What advice do you need on quick sim 😄 you copy paste the most used talents, equip the best gear you have which is usually highest ilvl or you can sim the items if not sure

[pliant jackal]

we do 5 minute sims

[willow egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5r9J5RK1PyrvtivhbQL131

[queen linden]

Brood prog. We're so back

[pearl sequoia]

Gooner

[keen fulcrum]

I just did a H Brood and parsed like shit. Made me sad. 😦

[midnight obsidian]

thats way too many aoe

how's your st damage going?

[pliant jackal]

the gooning ever stops

[cedar depot]

is it possible to be webbed on myth brodtwister with reflect? Idk if im super lucky but 15 pulls no webs

[lime plaza]

How warrior feeling this week bois?

[hardy cargo]

where do I go within a log to see what was reflected?

[sullen dove]

unholy things will be occuring tonight

[keen fulcrum]

I believe it just shows up as spell reflection damage, so you can just highlight spell reflect and look under it? (Could be wrong.)

[hardy cargo]

not damage, I figured it out tho ty

or I should say

it was a deflect

[feral ivy]

is there a MASSIVE diff from 11>12

key*

[crisp rain]

massivish

[queen linden]

We're so close. Freedom is within reach

[frozen portal]

what damage doesnt count on bloodbound?

my logs was 100k lower than my details

[feral ivy]

aug?

[frozen portal]

i guess

[torpid sand]

ok i wont lie, i'm kinda surprised

thane is fucking nuts for court

wtf

[young swan]

yeah

it owns

[mellow crow]

on silken does it really matter if we're red or blue group

or do we not care

[wheat estuary]

so for m+ thane, is it AM or RA?

[young swan]

i think it minorly changes cd alignment?

but idk

[young swan]

try both, see which u prefer

they're both good

[unique phoenix]

For mythic Ky'veza is there a recommended defensive to pop when you get the assassin charge? Feels like it doesn't matter what I use I'll always have to burn a healthstone. 631 ilvl.

[winter shoal]

Should always have SR up no?

But I think you want to SR the dot, not the hit

[rose dagger]

Dstance

[sly crane]

Am feels better to play imo

[unique phoenix]

Shit straight up you're right
I've been popping SR and Enraged almost every time and still been stuck popping a stone let me try d-stance

[unique phoenix]

You mean like wait for after the charge hits me to pop SR?

[winter shoal]

Idk haven't done the fight myself but I remember Dr Atnos saying you usually want to defensive the dot portion more than the hit portion

[wintry escarp]

You spell reflect the hit

[heavy dock]

d-stance for sure esp if u dont have to atk anything

[sullen dove]

thoughts on radiant power for broodtwister pad

or is that too cooked

[heavy dock]

very underrated cd imo

[sullen dove]

depths bigly

[heavy dock]

bruh

[unique phoenix]

I'm stuck in africa after the hit cuz of orbs but I'll save SR for it ty guys

[heavy dock]

then for sure dstance

no reason not to

[restive peak]

You just SR+dstance til you're back in center

You need ER for intermission

[thick lantern]

I know im late to the party but would someone be so kind to share their aoe raid build and ST raid build? would greatly appreciate

[pure echo]

i haven't looked into it, but is the apl for fury thane correct? looking at the # bloodthirst damage is way stronger than raging blow. Haven't checked crushing vs bloodbath yet tho.

[violet condor]

we need to have a serious talk guys

are we getting nerfed next week

[midnight obsidian]

no and yes

in no particular order

[young swan]

yeah bt fucking cranks for thane

30% amp

• burst of power

[pure echo]

Yeah that's why im curious if the apl is correct or not for it and if perhaps the other gathering clouds might be stronger.

[midnight obsidian]

yah

it looks correct

[pure echo]

so it's prioing bt vs raging, but what about crushing vs bloodbath?

[restive peak]

You RB far less as thane than slayer

[pure echo]

yeah what about bath vs crushing?

[coral dock]

is our dps rotation still the same since the update a couple days ago?

[restive peak]

In RA thane you'll always CB>BB

In both specs you will actually now

[vague crown]

just hit 630 woooooooo

[restive peak]

Atta boi

Your trinkets are fuckin insane

[vague crown]

lmfao vaults been good

[restive peak]

Fr

[vague crown]

sac has leech too

[restive peak]

Damn bro

I pray

if I got that next week I'd be pretty juiced

[frank vault]

Is it worth playing Thane on any raid bosses after the recent updates?

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/2YpLmFn.png

[midnight obsidian]

court

[pulsar quest]

would this cause a wipe

on X marker

it seems like the angle from the phantom its going to the same spot no matter what at that angle

but i might be trippin

[frank vault]

Arms on court, certainly?

[pulsar quest]

Thane fury on court

[midnight obsidian]

certainly is a strong word

[frank vault]

It was followed by a question mark. 😅

[midnight obsidian]

its an option

i dont think either spec is convincingly better than the other on court

[pulsar quest]

i believe they are close, and most of us are geared more for fury

so id rather play MT fury on it

[torpid sand]

BB my beloved, this is S3 DF all over again

[young swan]

colo arms is 100% better

[torpid sand]

so close to 2700

[winter shoal]

Get you a 12 mists

free as fuck

[stuck sentinel]

Hey sorry if this was asked a fuckton already

[sullen dove]

reap

[stuck sentinel]

Heroic version of the flaming weapon in BRD

Good or trash?

[sullen dove]

ok on single target

but like not rly long term useful

[winter shoal]

Had a pull with 16.5% reap dam but my guild is mechanically inept so we're still on like a 40% best sadeg

[sullen dove]

1 reap crit for 1.2mil

yep

[candid falcon]

finally got 2000 mythic rating from timing a +8 stonevault! feeling like im doing good, for playing slayer instead of thane in keys

(619 ilvl)

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-yippee-creature-yippee-meme-yippee-gif-gif-1489386840712152603

[candid falcon]

🥳

next month with more free time i'll push for portals i think

[winter shoal]

If you're doing 1.4m at 619 and keeping up with interrupts and CC, you're well on your way to 10-12 keys. LFG still sucks, but you personally are doing just fine

[worthy mountain]

Get reaped

[candid falcon]

thank you! Appreciate the kind words and encouragement, excited to try high keys

[pure echo]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WLnmjA6vPxd4hQpX#fight=12&type=damage-done&source=2

it does pretty good damage. on other pulls it was doing more damage.

[chrome relic]

thane on court............

i love it here

[hardy cargo]

are we able to reflect 2 lines in intermission if we reflect the first one?

or no

of kyveza

[chrome relic]

nah

maybe the last one

but prob not

reflect one enrage regen 2nd if ur afraid

but you should be able to take one and victory rush

[hardy cargo]

well I think definitely want to have sr for last since everyone gets hit and most likely to overlap with someone else

murder them and I live

[summer quail]

no but if they explode at the same time you reflect both

like if someone has a line and you have a line

[hardy cargo]

I knew if multiple were hitting me then I reflect them all, just wasnt sure if intermission allowed multiple reflect uses

ty

[summer quail]

oh unfortunately not, i just save til end or if other people screw me over. surely we kill it this week 😄

[hardy cargo]

yeah we just started I wasnt supposed to be in on it so I didnt do all the research I normally do for the fight lmfao

just kinda got yoinked in bc of a call out

fun fight so far tho

[lean wasp]

Ok so turns out nobody plays arms anymore

Like there is no decent players doing arms guide at all on yt, the only thing that comes up when i search arms is 50% bajheera, 45% random pvp content and 5% outdated or starter guides

[young swan]

video content is pretty hard to keep up

[torpid sand]

it's easier to get invited to GB than Mists

I'm 2695 now

A boralus will solve my life

[summer quail]

there are no guides, but critcake has vods on his twitch where he plays arms in keys. he played some today

and he has an ability tracker so you can see what buttons he has pressed

[chrome relic]

lowkey this is better than guides anyway. Much better to watch someone do content and react to situations vs reading text that's static

[odd star]

press the fuck outta bloodbath bro

i beat my arms buddy in kyveza today

prio'd bloodbath as hell

[torpid sand]

Bloodbath everywhere brother

And that one point in VC

Is really good imo

[lean wasp]

I always end up doing that when i fall behind on meta but its so much time and he's still testing

[torpid sand]

I would love to use 2 VC points, but i refuse to use AM

[summer quail]

even if he's still testing he does big damage and i guarantee you if he's doing something wrong then it's miniscule

[heavy dock]

So overall bloodthirst/bbath are higher priority to press than raging/crushing for m+ now? For am and ra builds

[lean wasp]

Am not saying he is testing rotation but he is testing talent builds in genral

[coral dock]

can we wear class-restricted gear now? Like for example, can my warrior wear a DK set? I wanna say i saw something about it.

[heavy dock]

Would like to know too i heard smth about this

Could really use the legs from tomb pally set

[coral dock]

I guess i'll buy the DK set and see

[summer quail]

don't believe so, i think the thing is you can unlock them class wide

[heavy dock]

Lame

[summer quail]

have not confirmed tho, but that is what i assume

[coral dock]

It would appear we cannot.

I just bought DK set on my warrior and it will not let me transmog it

[heavy dock]

Pretty annoying you can get full pala set from tomb of sargeras but the pants

[coral dock]

all good though, I play my DK as well

[odd star]

good. that would be kinda lame imo

[odd star]

not good.

[coral dock]

idk, the T2 DK set looks bad ass, the T2 warrior set looks kinda gay

[heavy dock]

Meh i think its fine for old sets, you can loot most of them from raid pieces anyway

[odd star]

didnt t2 dk set look like every other dk set

[coral dock]

And i only even play my DK because warr got back to back to back to back to back to back nerfs for so long i wanted to use another class

[heavy dock]

New wrath set is cool wdym. Atleast its not the dh one lol

[odd star]

i geared a dk
hated it
back to warr
then we get buffed
lifes good

yeah the new t2 is awesome

[heavy dock]

I feel bad for the dh mains tho

[odd star]

if i ever gear a non-warr platie again, its gonna be ret for sure

dk never more

[heavy dock]

That set looks so ass lol

[odd star]

ok time to sim how shitty a slayer RA aoe build without OF and with 2 vc points is

[coral dock]

I couldn't get the hang of DK tanking. I've tanked as Warrior in the late seaons for too lon

long*

[heavy dock]

Dk tank is like complete opposite

You want to get hit hard so you heal harder back to fukl

Very fucked up way of tanking ngl lol

Compared to war where you wanna take as little dmg as possible

[odd star]

4% aoe loss
3% st gain

and would feel worse to play too

[modest condor]

damn 4% aoe loss? have you checked with berserkers torment instead of titans?

[odd star]

both sims were with berserkers torment

[pale sentinel]

This can't be right ?

HoJ is simming higher than Ara-Kara

[modest condor]

you're replacing an enchant

also your top simming setup uses arakara so idk what you mean

[pale sentinel]

both my weapons already have Authority of the Depths 3 >.>

oh wait

[sick jungle]

you sure?

[pale sentinel]

I am reading that wrong

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-the-simpsons-bush-hide-gif-6118837

nvm

[modest condor]

lol

[pale sentinel]

This is why I come to this discord

D:

[summer quail]

I come to this discord to call Xan french

[sudden tusk]

The reason being is outside of maybe 2 fights fury dominates the entire field in raid

what are you actually looking for though

[covert coyote]

Ovi to 4% T.T

[sudden tusk]

just like standard rotations,ect? not sure what content you are looking for

[covert blaze]

based

[sudden tusk]

Flantaga

[willow cradle]

Based x2

[hazy cedar]

Is fury good now?

[summer quail]

very

[hazy cedar]

It didn't feel that good on mythic...

[summer quail]

our st isn't completely garbage and we still have cds for every add set in the raid. fury is eating good

[winged sail]

Why some top furys drop 2/2 DE and put it on SS for Thane RA

[young swan]

you problem

[winged sail]

Too much mastery?

[young swan]

SS?

[summer quail]

he means whatever the haste talent is called. instead of deft

[young swan]

oh

[winged sail]

Red boots.

😄

[young swan]

prob just sims better forthem

all of the stat nodes are pretty decent

deft is better in aoe, haste is better for ST

something like that

[summer quail]

Am i the only one scared we're gonna get nerfed? the reap buff was overkill

[young swan]

stop speaking it into existence

[hazy cedar]

What is better, anger management or reckless abandon

[young swan]

for m+?

[hazy cedar]

M+/raid

[young swan]

RA for slayer for m+, RA or AM for thane m+ both are good, RA for slayer for raid (generally)

[summer quail]

need 2 points swift strikes to get to AM/RA. deft is not needed to get to bladestorm

see like this

[raw nest]

lf4m emp runs hoj res

[traumatic flashbacks]

[hazy cedar]

And for m+ thane is better right?

[young swan]

yeah

I think so anyways

[hardy cargo]

think dn

[sudden tusk]

@young swan https://www.twitch.tv/3madox/clip/SmellyNiceEelPJSalt-2_npQJTdoG1nEVv4

[hardy cargo]

odyns kinda stinky

[sudden tusk]

very cool boss ability 1.5 second delay

[young swan]

yep its very good

[pearl sequoia]

new mechanic

delay

[summer quail]

oh idk then. don't like the odyns version personally

[sudden tusk]

the other part is very cool

[summer quail]

odyns feels very underwhelming in m+ for thane

[sudden tusk]

where the last blade jsut sits out and does nothing too

[winged sail]

Its from ara15

[random raptor]

I can't get earthen food buff sims to work, should I run mastery or haste gem buff?

[indigo arch]

Mastery

[weary sail]

Are we really that bad C tier

[smoky vale]

if you care about tierlists

you deserve the placement

[indigo arch]

Yes we are C tier I agree buff fury

[modest condor]

buff fury

[young swan]

buff fury

[random raptor]

buff fury

[weary sail]

Yes

We are F tier actually

Buff fury

[winged sail]

Make BT no Cd

[weary sail]

I need yall to sandbag your parse

[indigo arch]

I'll just auto attack next key or two

[weary sail]

Ty king

[indigo arch]

Nothing makes me happy than seeing rets beneath me in a key and seeing them looking at my char through target of target

[weary sail]

Who do we hate more? FDK or Ret

[young swan]

dont hate eitehr

[summer quail]

answer is demon hunter and aug

only classes i hate

[weary sail]

Well everyone hates aug

[sudden tusk]

the only reason i dont like ret, is it feels like that class gets good ideas that could/should be implimented into warrior so warrior doesnt get it

becuase they dont want to copy or w/e

[weary sail]

Ret is almost a range class at this point

[summer quail]

demon hunters jumping around with their bigass meta form, can't see shit. And when they do blade dance or whatever the ability is called with a mechanic and move it like flickers in all directions. i swear demon hunters are terrorists

[ornate gust]

lol... i hate to play around them too. I just go somewhere else and play

[storm birch]

do you need to spell reflect before the putrid waters cast completes on SoB last boss?

or can you do it while it's flying at you

[indigo arch]

I hate being in a key with a dh

Blizzard needs to gut unbound chaos and the other rotational movement so they don't dive bomb other melee

[buoyant salmon]

L take

movement is the only thing that makes dh fun

[ornate gust]

let the DH see his movements.. we don't

[weary sail]

https://preview.redd.it/trying-to-catch-up-on-shadow-priest-rotation-v0-79dcqj3f9c2a1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=666e3361d99f80c6d5b33932f11e5e8e98c2e5ac

Is shadow priest that hard

[indigo arch]

The only L is when room temp andy on their dh teleports on top of me before a mechanic

Them having that movement is fine, incentivizing them to fly up my anus before a mech is not

[unreal onyx]

Spriests are just edgy warlocks

[gaunt moat]

No they're just making it look hard but it's simple

[weary sail]

Whats the most complex / hardest rotation atm

Arcane mage?

[young swan]

prob one of the rogue specs or enh

[weary sail]

I have always heard outlaw rogue (non exploited version) are tough

[young swan]

maybe enhance is easier now

rogue specs are always "hard"

[dusk river]

I miss the bfa version of dh

[buoyant salmon]

rogue and enhance are the only specs that arent pisseasy

[gaunt moat]

with the QoL i think rogue got easier but still harder than most yh

outlaw*

[unreal onyx]

SL dh was kinda chill, 3 button rotation

[buoyant salmon]

bfa dh was beans

gameplay wise

[young swan]

feel like it was fine

at least in EP it was

[hardy cargo]

outlaw s3 df was real fucking fun and the qol for bte resetting for stealth stuff is awesome

[weary sail]

Wasnt bfa just

[buoyant salmon]

without movement dh is barren

u just eye beam and annihilation 30 times

[weary sail]

Chaos strike

[buoyant salmon]

no death sweep in st was a big flaw imo

[weary sail]

Chaos strike eye beam annhi chaos strike eye beam annhi

[smoky vale]

real

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1130595907172302858/30CFF9B4-C69D-4BF0-B51B-1122F4743CEF.gif

[pulsar quest]

Speaking of DH, is it trolling to tell them to stop flying around in princess intermission

If they are murdering people

I know they lose dps if they stop

So I kinda feel bad saying it

[south kayak]

Tell em not to talent into movement

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/997086666961457203/chatting.gif

[pulsar quest]

Will they kill me if I say that to them tho

xd

Isn’t non movement build aids

[sudden tusk]

12 mists

[molten wing]

i mean they can just wait a second or two if they have blaze and then move

[sudden tusk]

defeat the wizards

[pulsar quest]

I mean I feel like best solution is to learn how to move your character without murdering other people

[viscid condor]

is there any unnerfed valorstone farm?

[molten wing]

💪 which build did you play

[sudden tusk]

no its all shit

[viscid condor]

im gonna end it all

in game

[young swan]

omg ur playing with the e-couple from twitter

[sudden tusk]

RA thane

[young swan]

poggers

[pulsar quest]

I didn’t get to try the AM Thane build yet tonight

[sudden tusk]

also to add no OF 2x VC buil

[molten wing]

it really is equimox and ally

[sudden tusk]

they played well its just weird twitter shit

[pulsar quest]

They deleted their twitters last week lmao

Too much drama I guess

[molten wing]

i still cant decide if i like that one better or the standart m+ Slayer build

[south kayak]

What happened

[molten wing]

obviously this one slaps more consistant

[viscid condor]

context on the tea?

[young swan]

e-couples on twitter had beef

[pulsar quest]

Something about homewrecker, her leaning into the joke

Other girls beefing with her

Who knows

[viscid condor]

shoulda set up 2's to hash it out

[young swan]

got flamed for being 30 and being e-daters

drama ensued

[sudden tusk]

both are very good. I think slayer shines in some keys. City of Threads the fact you can self dispell the ice dot on Boss 2 makes CoT a slayer dungy for me

[pulsar quest]

Bunch of people being nosy basically

And then her rage baiting people xD

Guess it got too much to deal with for them o don’t really blame them

It’s funny for a few days then it’s annoying

[sudden tusk]

oh also to note i play Roar over spear

[pulsar quest]

I like slayer on city of threads too for last boss root removal

[sudden tusk]

spear poopie go die

[buoyant salmon]

idk why ppl were tweaking out

[molten wing]

yeah fuck spear

[buoyant salmon]

who cares who’s edating who

[molten wing]

do you play the 45sec roar or

[young swan]

i actually simmed this and spear is just even

all the time

literally always

within variance

[sudden tusk]

yeah and spear assumes you hit

fuck that

[young swan]

best roar build = best spear build

yeah

[molten wing]

yeah but i FEEL that spear is just bad

[young swan]

roar just better

sad

[buoyant salmon]

prove it to the supreme court

[pulsar quest]

I just don’t like playing spear

It feels weirddd

[young swan]

do not make me find it

[buoyant salmon]

i’m not the supreme court

[woeful warren]

Did yesterdays buffs affect our builds/rotas at all or is it still more of the same

[pulsar quest]

#updates-midnight

It explains the changes and how it affects the builds

[woeful warren]

I dont think theres any mention as to how it affects the builds, just talking about the buff numbers

[pulsar quest]

That’s cause they are the same 😎

There is a new build floating around for m+

Anger Management Thane

Seems to be pretty good but I haven’t tried it yet

[woeful warren]

Well this is the exact thing i was looking for lmao

[pulsar quest]

But for the most part everything is exactly the same just a little stronger, however you can mess around with not running OF sometimes now too

[woeful warren]

Sounds interesting, do you have the build somewhere id like to take a look into it aswell

[pulsar quest]

Let me find it I’m on mobile rn

[worldly cave]

sim Hectic Add Cleave is worth for Nerub-ar?

[pulsar quest]

#fury message

This is the build and some talk about it

[woeful warren]

👍

[chrome relic]

do you still play titan's torment or go reck talent

[sudden tusk]

reck

[chrome relic]

bet

[sudden tusk]

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is what i played that key

[chrome relic]

ty

[granite oak]

this overall any good

[sudden tusk]

katy stampwhistle spotted