fury

[tired dragon]

But by then you could change anyway

[restive peak]

The knockdown was a nice little unique utility for us

[tired dragon]

I’m talking about at the beginning

[narrow narwhal]

I'll take AA over spear tbh

[crisp coral]

AA just really doesn't fit the warrior theme at all, I doubt we'd ever get it

[tired dragon]

Condemn arms turbo dog

[restive peak]

If they ever bring condemn back and it's meta I am AFK

[tired dragon]

I think its pretty fun in theory

Execute is cool

[sinful orbit]

Condemn was so boring after a while imo

[dapper goblet]

AA lego never giving the correct amount of stacks

epic poggers

[sinful orbit]

The rotation was so dog

[rugged hill]

well execute at the time was actually a hard hitting button for us tho

💀

[crisp coral]

We need fury merciless bonegrinder back

[last sparrow]

are the wowhead builds updated for the new patch?

[queen tapir]

another week

another fucking reason to pick bitter immunity

[crisp coral]

A 20% heal and cleanse on a 3 minute cooldown is never worth it

[queen tapir]

i dunno

no one is cleansing

what can i do

🤣

[high sundial]

Yeah this was nice

[queen tapir]

spamming impending and blood thirsts

[warped bone]

Man I haven't DPS in keys in ages. Is it Thane or Slayer ?

[queen tapir]

cant get dispelled I dunno tbh

[high sundial]

Thane makes me feel like in playing tank

[crisp coral]

both are pretty competitive Rah

[queen tapir]

this affix is just dog shit

[high sundial]

Which i am most of the time because we pull aggro on all thing when we fart

[warped bone]

Goodie

[verbal rivet]

And they made shamans upset bc poison cleanse nerf

Affix is dookie

[queen tapir]

I mean well deserved tbh

shamans wer eth eonly one just having 100% up time on that affix kinda crazy ngl

why get anything else 🤣

[verbal rivet]

Like you’re inviting a MW any other week

[heavy nacelle]

I started this tier as a MW main and had to shelve him cause I wasn't getting invites, I was like wtf I thought healers get easy invites

[chrome plover]

healers have it way worse meta-wise than dps do

people will simply wait for a resto shaman

[verbal rivet]

It’s why I tank

It really doesn’t matter as long as you aren’t brew or DH

Even then. Still not awful

[heavy nacelle]

my mage was getting invites twice as fast as my mistweaver

[verbal rivet]

Just riskier

[queen tapir]

I dunno I am thinking of going the route of the furry

and just playing augmentation

[rigid kestrel]

My monkey brain does not work atm.
So for m+ Whats the level break point between burst and sustained m+ build?

[ivory topaz]

im conflicted i dont have a myth boots or belt yet but is it even worth taking them? seems like a socket feels better since i have none

[fading sky]

Sim it

But if u dont have id say take

[queen tapir]

take the boots

[fading sky]

Take socket when theres no upgrades

[queen tapir]

catalyst boots are good no ?

[ivory topaz]

i simmed and the belt seems to be the upgrade

oh didnt think abt cat'ing the boots

[verbal rivet]

Depends on group/key level. How you’re pulling

[ivory topaz]

cause i have a hero version of the ballast sinkers already lol

[rigid kestrel]

Lets say +10 for the fun of it

[verbal rivet]

I’m purely on thane for keys, bc clappa

[chrome plover]

I have better results with AM thane in a +10 than RA slayer

[rigid kestrel]

Poppph

Fuck it Thane it is

[frozen jacinth]

why do top warriors all have this ring, it seems lower than my current rings with haste mastery

[rigid kestrel]

Now to read a rotation

[chrome plover]

read the text underneath the stats

damage = good

[verbal rivet]

Thane is so much more fun, just because you aren’t useless on pulls you aren’t sending CDs

[eager thorn]

that ring loses dmg for me

[rigid kestrel]

Thank you thane it is

[frozen jacinth]

so its safe to say its better than taking a myth tier piece?

[queen tapir]

that ring is good st

[chrome plover]

you can also sim it, if you have 2x good stats mythic rings then a hero queen ring will lose

[chrome plover]

you should sim yourself

[ivory topaz]

im gonna try simming with the boots catalyst, thanks!

[queen tapir]

sim it with max sockets

[frozen jacinth]

i did sim it and it says my rings are better, but top warriors use it on champion level even so im confused

[chrome plover]

what rings do you have

[sly crane]

no OF thane feels weird to me

[iron portal]

Maybe their rings arent better who knows

[chrome plover]

^

if it sims worse for you in a 5min patchwerk then dont use it

[turbid glacier]

but if you didn't slap 2 sockets on it before simming do that

[chrome plover]

he means the "top warriors" rings

[chilly fractal]

Literal god tier rings

[chrome plover]

you have bis rings and you dont know what they have

im surprised the poisoned one doesnt win on ST

[iron portal]

I would rather see acutal sim

[chrome plover]

but still your rings are good

[iron portal]

If you applied enchants too

Also, no sockets 👀

[frozen jacinth]

i did dungeon slice

[past pivot]

Sim patchwerk. Give better results.

[frozen jacinth]

just 1 patchwerk 1.3 min?

for m+?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tBszauZSp3fnwXykaiMiUK

this is the sim

[sterile stratus]

I do 1 target and 5 target patchwork for m+

Usually combining results gives you a good idea.

[barren coral]

how big of a dps loss is using a myth track item over a crafted 636

with no other crafted gear

[heavy nacelle]

why would there be a dps loss? myth track can go up to 639

[coarse nest]

You would have to sim the difference

Ilvl will probably win unless you’re involving embellishments

[pale geyser]

Is aoe prio for RA the same in terms of always using CB/BB when rage capped? For slayer raid and thane m+

[normal bane]

i thought fury is tanky in raids, what are you people doing to make it one of the highest death rates

[turbid glacier]

zugzug

[mossy fox]

ovinax spiders

[radiant plank]

Look how

arm is

[vernal laurel]

Bois i have a crafted 636 neck, do I just pick the ring here mayhaps? I already have Umbriss Band in hero....

[radiant plank]

my baby

[viscid condor]

brain lag

[unkempt vector]

Pulling threat with big pumps

[chrome plover]

so real

[normal bane]

its other fights too

what are people even dying to on sikran

eating a million puds?

[mossy fox]

ovinax spiders appeared to onetap the warrior

idk sikran is easy to warriorbrain i guess

[normal bane]

at least we got a little better on sikran(not arms)

[frozen jacinth]

@mossy fox why are you using this ring in m+?

for aoe or single target on bosses?

[mossy fox]

i do not own this ring

[turbid glacier]

sad

[frozen jacinth]

oh shit, but would you pick it up in vault instantly?

[chilly fractal]

First kill on Mythic… you’ll see one… Champion Track Warbound

[mossy fox]

no because i have myth track rings

[sterile stratus]

What's that like

[mossy fox]

just buy 1 craft 1

[chilly fractal]

EZ

[nocturne salmon]

[frozen jacinth]

i have those bad boys but for some reason they sim higher for me than seal of the poisoned pact

but i see top warriors use champion level seal of the poisoned

idk im so confused

[boreal cairn]

fuck stop before we get nerfed again

[chilly fractal]

Because those are literal BIS rings

And higher ilvl

[mossy fox]

this is why you sim yourself because every char is different

[nocturne salmon]

why 90th percentile

[trail bane]

enha hasnt been nerfed yet so dont worry about us being nerfed

pepega

[chilly fractal]

Well could be higher ilvl assuming they are myth

[normal bane]

why look at the bad players

[boreal cairn]

all looked the same lol

[frozen jacinth]

all of them are hero track, im simming at same ilvl

it just seems super weird to me that they use champion lvl seal ring im sure they came across some mastery haste rings at some point of doing 1000000 more runs then me

maybe im simming it wrong

[nocturne salmon]

maybe you wanna check boss damage a bit lol

still all pad

[oblique trail]

Fury is in the raid to do add damage

So it's what we do

[normal bane]

i still think people here don't understand what pad damage actually is

[boreal cairn]

its not pad if its shit that HAS to die

[normal bane]

and they probably never will

[vernal laurel]

Which one is better?

[oblique trail]

Just pick Sureki

Saves you crests and both are basically bis

[nimble ermine]

sureki

[boreal cairn]

and our single target is probaly always going to be meh, we are only there for aoe lol

[modest condor]

warriors are zugzug brain who dont look at mechanics or use defensives

[normal bane]

i can't believe ppl are still coping about fury lmao

[vernal laurel]

I would, but there is also this ring..

[oblique trail]

That ring is so inconsequentual

Just pick Sureki

[vernal laurel]

Sounds good

[narrow narwhal]

Sureku

[mossy fox]

bro wtf take the sureki neck

[faint whale]

Sureki unless you wanna troll

[mossy fox]

or send it to me

[tidal kindle]

No me...

[acoustic warren]

Crit, fury haves any haste cap?

[mossy fox]

[nimble ermine]

answer the man

[mossy fox]

[faint whale]

^

/simc is op

[smoky vale]

gm crit 🙂

[nimble ermine]

lost rash cloak to aug player

i will explode

[clever path]

Haste cap doesnt exist it can't hurt you

[smoky vale]

hi mel

[nimble ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[mossy fox]

i need this neck yesterday

[nimble ermine]

hello

[oblique trail]

Just have it since week 1

What's the issue

[smoky vale]

real

[runic solstice]

what are the talants ppl are running for thane m+ rn?

[frozen portal]

I got Sikran 639 neck out of vault with 1000 speed on it

[iron portal]

Siren Isles hmmmm

[normal bane]

can they fix their game before thinking of new content

it would be great

[idle ember]

is this normal for a 625 aff?

or are they that cooked

[winged sail]

I got socket

[tidal kindle]

Too many variables, not enough info

Esp given sv hunter + fury in comp

[eternal sundial]

vibin

love me some am slayer

[winged sail]

What ilvl

[eternal sundial]

628

small

[winged sail]

https://tenor.com/view/yuge-huge-donald-trump-gif-7357158

[eternal sundial]

was on pace for 2 but we trolled

[wanton mirage]

Forbidden isle 2.0

[tranquil jetty]

idk man i dont know if I trust blizzard to make good on it

[tacit hill]

Warlock is pretty terrible, so I wouldnt be shocked to hear this is about on par for normal parse for lock

[tranquil jetty]

11.0.5 sucked

[golden hare]

what is your rotation

[wanton mirage]

They release Aug Evoker 2.0 with with 11.0.7

[eternal sundial]

real or fake

[faint whale]

Plunderstorm returns

[wanton mirage]

Huge W

[golden hare]

super fake

[marble swift]

whats the m+ build

[runic solstice]

big noob question, why are ppl running hack and slash?

[eternal sundial]

So what youre gonna do is as simple as, you're gonna garrote 1, garrote 2, garrote 3, rupture 4 vendetta exanguinate yeah then you gonna fok fok rupture again you gonna vanish re-apply garrotes especially on the target that dont have, and that's it. Then you're gonna CT crimson tempest, look at my damage right now fucking 40k dude its fucking over dude how the fuck though lets go

[eternal sundial]

played this but im psure AJ is fake

should just go 2 DE

idk

im clueless

[hardy shuttle]

VC?

[marble swift]

i tried vc and its bad in m+ idk

maybe its me

[hardy shuttle]

Feel like with how much bt and bb do its big value on bosses

[runic solstice]

imo idk how but isnt vc better then hack and slash, im big noob so pls tell me

[marble swift]

for st yea, but 70% of dungeon damage even 10+ is from trash

[chrome plover]

isnt bt pretty giga in aoe

[nimble ermine]

it is

[golden hare]

muskelbrodda

[chrome plover]

so below 35% everything is getting trucked

[nimble ermine]

vc isnt bad lol

[marble swift]

it is but mobs dont last long enough

[hardy shuttle]

But how much of that trash has 1 big prio mob in the pack. Most of the pulls this season. Plus the cleaved bts still get VC value

[chrome plover]

35% of the fight

[eternal sundial]

i have no fucking clue man

[chrome plover]

quick maths

[eternal sundial]

i just spam rampage

[marble swift]

many classes get giga execute phase damage increase

[eternal sundial]

reap is obscene

so bt is good

[marble swift]

so time wise its much less

[nimble ermine]

drop sd and aj for vc you will melt

[stuck mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[marble swift]

i think rampage spam is best yea

[eternal sundial]

👁️👁️

surely

[nimble ermine]

no.

[hardy shuttle]

Feel like I'd take out the aj and doi, and probably even SD for VC and 2/2 mastery node

[eternal sundial]

and drop DOI

cookin bro

[marble swift]

vile

[marble remnant]

does anyone know if warcraft logs for rashanon arent working right because its suppose to only track boss but mine from last night tracked adds

[hardy shuttle]

Adds have been added for past few weeks

[marble remnant]

really?

now i gotta start blasting adds again for the parse

feelsbad

[winged sail]

Its pretty damn good

[chrome plover]

since 11.0.5

[winged sail]

What was the key

[marble remnant]

i see

[eternal sundial]

nerf fury

[mossy fox]

phil stop cooking wtf

[tacit hill]

@mossy fox what M+ build you using atm

[gaunt moat]

I already tried bro it's dead...

Let it rest...

[mossy fox]

im using the "waiting for wage cage day to end so i can go home and do m+" build

[tacit hill]

I feel ya

[faint whale]

Bis build

[eternal sundial]

i think the largest cook is just going PE

if the keys give u 1 cd per pack but not 2

[soft jewel]

Please don't wait too long showing is some thoughts 😉

[eternal sundial]

also apparently transmitter on bridge on NW

can float off bridge

[chrome plover]

can confirm

[tacit hill]

Thats not shocking tbh

[eternal sundial]

no but a bit annoying

until is comes back

[tacit hill]

That ball is a huge pain in the ass

[spare hull]

RA not worth now to get with BT buff?

[eternal sundial]

idk

i like AM in keys

[spare hull]

same

[tacit hill]

Im watching a 3300 IO fury warrior do M+ right now on twitch running Thane + RA + Ravenger - https://www.twitch.tv/bizentein

He is pumping

[spare hull]

cheers

[gusty hazel]

Reading the AOE Rotation guide

Where do regular Rampage fit in?

[tacit hill]

Was that updated recently?

It looks different then yesterday so I think so

[gusty hazel]

Ah its still a week old it seems

[tacit hill]

yeah damn

gotta wait for critcake lol

[nocturne salmon]

[tacit hill]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[gusty hazel]

Its the wowhead one but yeah I assume they're still cracking numbers

[exotic turtle]

Crit needs to cook

[nocturne salmon]

invent your own rotation

[exotic turtle]

Asap

[gusty hazel]

I just smash buttons

[eternal sundial]

what rotational change do you not see reflected in the guide

[tacit hill]

I think BT is too low

personally

[nocturne salmon]

Just kill enemies until they die

ez

[dapper hound]

im so confused, im simming my gear and its telling me to grab crit/vers gems on ring, i thought crit/verse was our worst stats

[tacit hill]

But it does look pretty good

[frank harbor]

did we take OF in slayer spec ?

[exotic turtle]

Depends if you’re haste and mastery are super high

[tacit hill]

Is that for the emblishment thing?

[spare hull]

So im stupid (warrior duh) and i meant to say '' So now AM isnt worth in m+ with the BT buff?''

[exotic turtle]

If they are high then other stats are better

[tacit hill]

What would you guys consider too high for mastery

[nocturne salmon]

make execute great again

[tacit hill]

I didnt think that was a thing

[dapper hound]

its myth track ring in vault https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/c6pz4wS4rp6nXTy6nMn61s

[exotic turtle]

43% is good

Mastery

[eternal sundial]

both are good

[tacit hill]

rofl mines like 56

[exotic turtle]

Yeah way too high haha

Other stats benefit more

[nocturne salmon]

20% hp enemy oneshot no matter hp execute

[exotic turtle]

You get diminishing returns over cap

[sonic swift]

So is Fury back to being better than arms?

[nocturne salmon]

can always dream

it was never worse tbh

[eternal sundial]

Depends on the boss

[sonic swift]

didnt say it was worse but fury did perform better than arms

i mean in m+ too

[exotic turtle]

These are the sort of stats you want to aim for

Rough ballpark

[chrome plover]

just sim yourself and equip the best items

[exotic turtle]

Yes he did and he asked why it’s telling him to take crit vers over haste mastery lol

He’s at like 56% mast

[tidal kindle]

[golden hare]

garms... numbers don't lie... it must be true

[chrome plover]

and im telling him to just equip the items that robot says

stat priority is a myth

[mossy fox]

[coarse nest]

You need exactly the stats in that screenshot or you can’t kill any mobs/bosses

They just will full immune you

[exotic turtle]

Loooool

[mossy fox]

the never ending stats questions

[exotic turtle]

This is why I said (rough ballpark)

[mossy fox]

we havent cared about stats for many expansions now

[nimble ermine]

THE MORE MASTERY THE MERRIER

[mossy fox]

just sim your char all the time

[high sundial]

Just sim

[exotic turtle]

But according to Murlok.io they are the average stats of the top 50 warriors in M*

[nimble ermine]

FUCK CRIT, FUCK HASTE, FUCK VERSA MORE MASTERYYY

[chrome plover]

who simmed their stats and equipped the best items

[nimble ermine]

cus thats the gear they ended up with

[radiant plank]

do you have a precise copy of the top 50 warriors gear

[mossy fox]

which still means absolutely nothing, just sim your own char like everyone else does

[oblique trail]

I think we should nuke sites with statistics like this 👍

[mossy fox]

and if you don't sim you're making a mistake

[chrome plover]

copy pawn string from noxxic, paste it in to my addon, look at the biggest % uppie

god take me back

[nimble ermine]

nuke every site with statistics and tier lists

[tacit hill]

So just look at the stats on critcakes toon?

[high sundial]

What do you guys sim on when it comes to AoE ?

[chrome plover]

no because he doesnt have sikran neck

[golden hare]

nuke this :pantsg

[coarse nest]

Yo bring back pawn

[mossy fox]

yo noxxic is usually r1 or r2 fury warrior on raiderbots.io isnt he

[oblique trail]

[coarse nest]

Let’s go backwards in progress

Pawn only

[past pivot]

Normal ST patchwerk then change trinkets for biggest burst and adjust build.

[nocturne salmon]

petition to remove stat diminishing returns

[sinful glen]

EU armory down?

[median falcon]

Diminishing returns is healthy for the game

[golden hare]

how

[thick fossil]

They need to delete pawn or any add on that says "x" state over "y."

[jagged hawk]

Tried out the AM Thane but it felt kinda weak.. might also be correlated that I ran with Ele and Ret.. 🙃

[sinful glen]

im loving it so far

[nocturne dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-im-lovin-it-logo-commercial-fast-food-gif-16490842

[chrome plover]

bring back reforging

[timid prairie]

is this good guys

[nocturne dragon]

Yes

Plus avoidance too

[dapper nest]

Quick question: for raiding, slayer is still preferred over MT because adds die too quickly right?

[split elk]

i mean slayer feels so good in m+ too, reap the storm is blastin

[high sundial]

St for aoe ?
I don't raid anymore solely looking for m+ sim

[winged sail]

Why not drop AJ and SD for 2/2 DE and 1 VC

[coarse nest]

POG!! Grats

[nocturne dragon]

How is your vault brew? Got something good?

[pulsar quest]

no delete it

[coarse nest]

Ehh replaced hero track gloves with myth track

Can’t complain I’ve been getting a myth track upgrade every week so far

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/d3evaph.png

most boring vault

[coarse nest]

Pretty much socket weapon or trinket from here on out though

[eternal sundial]

Bro i just clicked random shit i didnt think abt it

[pulsar quest]

if i dont get a myth wep between vault and ulgrax next week man

[eternal sundial]

I like sd tho

[pulsar quest]

im gonna lose it

like no myth weapons or trinkets yet at all

and i rly dont wanna waste gilded on a weapon

is it still 90 to craft

[high sundial]

I just got a myth wep after i crafted my second wep 3 days ago

Lol

[nocturne dragon]

Yes still 90

[coarse nest]

Eddie so real my guilds only seen one myth ulgrax 2h and it went to BDK

[pulsar quest]

dude

[coarse nest]

My own fault for not taking weapon week 1

[pulsar quest]

we got one on our first kill

[tranquil jetty]

i got a myth weapon in my vault so I can finally do Myth mainhand and hero offhand

[pulsar quest]

and we gave it to our ret

[eternal sundial]

On a 2nd one or wa

[hardy gale]

I have a belt that has a socket. Can I use the great vault item to put more sockets into it?

[pulsar quest]

because he said "ret doesnt use crafted weapon"

[eternal sundial]

No

[pulsar quest]

and he had crafted 2x armor already

so they gave to him

and we havent had one since

[vocal quiver]

Did you guys see the new zone?

[civic fossil]

Do I go for this neck or a Sacbrood? Neck is a 1.7% upgrade, Sacbrood is 0.7% (ST), but I have two on use trinkets.

[nocturne dragon]

Neck

[noble frost]

What are your trinkets

[civic fossil]

My trinkets

[runic solstice]

when you sim are these correct settings? for m+

[noble frost]

First one is yuck but still trinket

[nocturne dragon]

That item is rare

[noble frost]

Sorry

NECK

[civic fossil]

Agreed

[noble frost]

NOT TRINKET

[civic fossil]

Thanks 🙂

Appreciate the advice!

[coarse nest]

Go neck and farm trinket

[noble frost]

Yea you cannot farm neck
Go neck

[nocturne dragon]

I got that neck heroic this week with extra speed

[pulsar quest]

are they both heroic track

[civic fossil]

Yes

[pulsar quest]

then neck yeah

if it was mythic id go sacbrood

[civic fossil]

I've chosen neck, thanks for the help!

[viscid condor]

anybody else jsut go back to slayer for m+

[noble frost]

Shit it that blade's card
Nice dp

If you playing low keys i think slayer is pretty fun but

[viscid condor]

yeah im not pushing just doing 10s

[noble frost]

Higher keys slayer feels like shit when the pack is half hp and youre doing wet noodle damage

[viscid condor]

are you doing OF thane or VC in high keys

[noble frost]

Of thane cause fuck desync LUL

[novel saddle]

What's the recommended build after todays buffs?

[coarse nest]

The AM thane ravager build actually syncs pretty nicely

[nocturne dragon]

oh surprise someone notice hahaha

[coarse nest]

You have reck rav every 30ish seconds

[noble frost]

[astral path]

yeah but

bladestorm

[nocturne dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/848490155140710411/1237677298145296424/bladestorm.gif

[viscid condor]

ill try that am build

was curious about it

[astral path]

is raiderio gonna count keys that are like within 50 seconds of timing from last week or something

my ingame io and site io are not the same

[white stream]

im stupid and didnt saw this on rotation guide, but how is this on our prio ?

[astral path]

am thane press it twice 😎

AM is peak

[white stream]

so spam it as it procs?

[nimble ermine]

ye send asap on am

[white stream]

whats am?

[nimble ermine]

anger management

[white stream]

oh tty

[noble frost]

Anger management

[nimble ermine]

on reckless abandon you use it on bloodbaths

[ornate gust]

my warrior feels good

[clever path]

Trying to put my trinket use with avatar and its not working

Any thoughts?

[viscid condor]

ah shiet

[white stream]

ngl this new thane is feeling real good

[viscid condor]

i foudn the am thane build

here we fucking go

[clever path]

Macro is busted for avatar?

[digital mauve]

What new thane?

[clever path]

Tried to macro it in with reck and roar too not happening

[white stream]

after buffs i meant

[digital mauve]

for AM thane what's the prioruty crushing blow or bloodthrist?

[clever path]

BT on aoe

to proc TB

[digital mauve]

ookey and crushing blow on ST?

[dull compass]

wow really knows how to make you grind for hours to get actually FUCK ALL

[white stream]

just copied crit build, currently im not playing AM

[dull compass]

haha

[noble frost]

A few things
But trinket as the last thing

Also what trinket

[clever path]

I have /cast Ava then /use 13 etc

Not happening wondered if ppl are getting the same issues?

[noble frost]

Is the avatar greyed out

[narrow narwhal]

Are you sure your trinket is in slot 13

[clever path]

Nah Ava casts

ofc

[noble frost]

What trinket isit

[clever path]

Works when I have Thunderous roar/bladestorm

[noble frost]

Show the entire macronline

And what trinket

[silk wharf]

Youve probably just got a random invisible space or something. erase it and start over.

[white stream]

AM or RA :/

[clever path]

#showtooltip Avatar
/cast Avatar
/use 13
/use 14

[noble frost]

LMAO

[clever path]

That's what I use for Ava alone

[noble frost]

Cannot use both trinkets tgt

[narrow narwhal]

Why do you have 13 and 14

[noble frost]

30 sec cd

[shrewd shell]

Is it me or does raidbots think I can proc thunder blast way more often than in realityt?

[clever path]

Does it matter?

Just incase I have x2 on use trinkets

I don't

and like i said this works

#showtooltip Thunderous Roar
/cast Thunderous Roar
/use 13
/use 14

Works fine

[narrow narwhal]

Idk, I'm already over trying to play tech support

[noble frost]

I have macros that breaks when trinkets are on cd
And avatar is kinda funky

[silk wharf]

You have probably got a random space you cant see. I suggest you make a new macro entirely and write it up from scratch, shouldnt take 30 seconds.

[clever path]

Tried ava and thunderous roar by itself

also a no go

[noble frost]

Ok shit tip

Swap to prot warrior
Then swap back to fury and try again

[white stream]

you guys are playing AM or RA?

[waxen vale]

yup

[clever path]

okie

[noble frost]

Im not kidding my macros break to something
Swapping from time to time fixes A problem i have
Idk how or why

[clever path]

@silk wharf done

but no go

trying to switch specs now

[frank rover]

the ring i got from vault is a dps loss

even when fully mythic upgraded

and i have this

incredible

[steep rose]

Hiya guys is MT still the best build for m+ than slayer?

[silk wharf]

I took that at hero level from a particularly low quality vault because its so good.

[noble frost]

Heavy mastery do work its magic

[clever path]

switched specs, relogged all no go

Oh well - not a big deal

[narrow narwhal]

I just play slayer in m+ since I have no plans on doing anything higher than a 10

[noble frost]

Ok remove use 14 idk

[silk wharf]

Your macro with everything is seperate lines right?
/cast Avatar
/cast reck

etc

[clever path]

aye

[summer knoll]

Vault question: do I replace hc transmitter with myth skarmorak shard or should I get "rare" cloak from rashanan (mythic)
sim says shard is a bit better but want to hear your opinion

[clever path]

like i said the macro works fine with thunderous roar and bladestorm

[summer knoll]

cloak has kinda bad stats

[silk wharf]

I use a macro just like the one you are describing with no issues.

[clever path]

doesn't like avatar

i'm on arms btw not that it matters

For fury the macro is fine

[narrow narwhal]

The rash cloak is bis from the effect

[silk wharf]

yea, I use the same macro interchangeably

[clever path]

Shame

[silk wharf]

Mine doesnt have roar cause sometimes you wanna wait a few seconds for adds. But its otherwise identical

Make sure everything is spelled correctly. If youve double checked for errant invisible spaces messing things up. You can try stupid little things like just shift clicking the spells into the macro one at a time til it works or breaks.

[zealous stone]

guys do I want to have different gems colors on my gear when using culminating blasphemite gem?

[coarse nest]

You would have to sim and compare

[silk wharf]

if yo uwant the bonus. Simming would tell you for sure.

I use the movespeed one. zoomin

[zealous stone]

do a gear compare?

[coarse nest]

I use the move speed gem and 5 colors too

[silk wharf]

Top gear should work. just make sure you have always use and 4 colors turned on

[spark canyon]

https://gyazo.com/1eb00dfe8cfd377cb0cf862dcc492db9 is this worth taking or better craft my 2nd 636 ?

[broken kindle]

you guys playing now for raid RA or AM aoe?

[silk wharf]

blowing my mind. there are 5 colors?

im shattered

[coarse nest]

I threw in a stam gem

[silk wharf]

OH

[zealous stone]

would you share your sims :v

[zealous stone]

thanks!

[noble frost]

Sim it
But
This should be very very lousy
I own it back in week 1
Still kinda sucks

[hardy gale]

Can war do anything to clear the bananas in siege of morales without stepping on them and getting stunned?

[silk wharf]

B-b-b-bladestorm

But otherwise, no

[noble frost]

Man now that bladestorm is sso fast it kinda sucks i cant use it to clear shit like mythic ulgrax web well

[mossy fox]

siege of miles morales

[stuck cloud]

someone a quick and dirty link to the best m+ build now?

[hardy gale]

Oopie it autocorrected. I tried to spell reflect but I still got stunned

[south kayak]

siege of boralass

[silk wharf]

bananas arent magic.

[noble frost]

Wowhead
M+
Mountain thane
(Terms and conditions apply)

[frank rover]

[stuck cloud]

thanks didnt now they updated so fast

[silk wharf]

Archi is on his shit nearly all of the time.

[hollow obsidian]

Is there anything I should be itching for or just upgrades

[young swan]

can bladestorm them, thats about it

[noble frost]

More like didnt exactly change
And as stated
Terms and conditions apply
Slayer better in lower keys (how low idk)
There is AM build as well
Peepee
Poopoo
Wait to find out which is the best

[misty sparrow]

BEST builds right now for palace?

[eternal sundial]

swap per boss

[spark canyon]

bro ur mog ! 🌶️

[hollow obsidian]

thank you!

[rugged grove]

what addon is this character panel, or is it just elvui?

[hollow obsidian]

its a WA actually

[rugged grove]

you have a link?

[ornate gust]

Feels good.. The DK kept getting PIs in the dungeon. +10 SV key

[hollow obsidian]

yeah ill send after this key

[pulsar nest]

What's the key lvl and the dungeon?

[ornate gust]

+10 SV

[fossil hull]

your build ?

[tall goblet]

hey guys are we changing some talents for ST in raids? or talents stay same

[ornate gust]

I played the typical MT build that is exist in wowhead.. nothing speical

[harsh violet]

thane yeah?

[ornate gust]

yes with OF

[desert cloud]

any reason why in wowhead brutal finish is taken instead of the bladestorm one ?

is it better now in ST ?

[kindred swallow]

grim batol [phone] rating mage btw lol

[ornate gust]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagxghhZwywMzGMMjxwMMzssNzYmZ2YmxMzwMsZbGmZMAAAQYMwGssY0YGQmFYxYB

[narrow narwhal]

Nothing in 8s lives long enough

[desert cloud]

that's nothing i've played with a 2860 mage that did 1.2 overall

[tall goblet]

sims higher for me

but around 3k dps inceare

increase*

[desert cloud]

in ST ?

[modest condor]

i mean why were you expecting more from someone with 2k rating

that's about what i would expect from them

[tall goblet]

yes

[desert cloud]

damn

doesn't make sense tho

[tall goblet]

yeahh

[normal bane]

2k rating is like nothing

[kindred swallow]

I mean i still only have 1500 and the tank only had 1900 aswell

2000 rating should be human beings already

[desert cloud]

there is 0 human beeings in m+

[eager thorn]

that dps doesnt say not human

[tall goblet]

like its only 3k

[modest condor]

even at 2.5k you'd be lucky to find a half decent player

[south kayak]

I'm 2.5k and i can confirm

[tulip hare]

Ditto

[frank rover]

and a warrior at that

[buoyant salmon]

tank was the best player in the group

[winter shoal]

Pug mages are a different breed

[granite trout]

Are there any breakpoints for haste or mastery or anything? I see IV doesn't really mention any

[desert cloud]

i shaow banned mages in my brain when it comes to pugging

[south kayak]

yeah pug mages are scuffed but there are some really good ones that you get every once in a while and they blow your mind lol

[desert cloud]

they are last resort

[kindred swallow]

He was for sure yeah lol

[desert cloud]

the biggest breakdown is simming ur gear for upgrdes

[winter shoal]

They need to buff fire again so pugs stop trying to play arcane and mismanaging their cds

[south kayak]

this arcane i played with a few hours ago

was doing insane boss damage

it was crazy

[granite trout]

Roger that. I need to dig into that more. I really only know how to do the weekly sim for the vault

[restive peak]

2k io is literally a pulse

There are 3k people who are barely above a pulse

[south kayak]

2k is a joke

tbh

[woven radish]

Feels so good to move from last place to 3rd from last on damage to bosses. We are SO BACK, baby!

[south kayak]

[restive peak]

We aren't an ST class/spec

It's by design

We're not bottom by 10-20% anymore, this is healthy and good

[narrow narwhal]

I'm ready to pump on ovinax this week

[winter shoal]

Reap goes BRRR now

OF kinda nudle tho

[tulip hare]

Anyone been trying AM in keys is it slapping

[frank rover]

does nayone here have the uwu eating weakaura

[restive peak]

I've done like 80% of keys since yday as AM thane, can confirm it slaps

[winter shoal]

I felt like AM was kinda stinky compared to RA thane when I tried it last week but idk maybe I just need to give it another go

[normal yoke]

https://wago.io/rJLsKGVt-/
You can change the text to be whatever you want

[winter shoal]

That was also when unhinged was bugged

[restive peak]

AM thane def better than RA thane for high keys imo

[winter shoal]

Define high

[restive peak]

12+ probably

[south kayak]

11+?

[night relic]

12+

[restive peak]

Maybe even 10/11+, I haven't done a key below 12 in weeks

Cannot pretend I know

I'd rather sit in q for 8 hours than pug those affixes

[tulip hare]

Awesome gonna give it a go when I'm home 😄

[winter shoal]

I'm still a vault andy at this point in the season, did one 12 mists with guild but aint no way I'm pugging 11/12s

[restive peak]

I've seen these pugs play, I ain't addin another affix to them

[normal bane]

i'd say we are very strong, in raid

and as a class, very very strong

[winter shoal]

Linc are you playing OF or VC with AM

[restive peak]

110% we are

VC

OF is deadge for thane, it's literally a clunky button that does fuckall

[winter shoal]

Bet

[restive peak]

• can't run zerkers torment with it

[south kayak]

so true

[normal bane]

as a class we're bordering on bis right now in raid

[winter shoal]

Cap

Have you seen enhance

[tidal kindle]

@balmy shore no mets but Yankees surely....

[restive peak]

Yeah he was talking about ST green

[normal bane]

thats the bordering on part

and it's close

they're better

[restive peak]

I was saying we aren't designed for ST, never will be unless re-designed

[normal bane]

for sure

but we're right there

[restive peak]

We will always be mid ST at best

However we get to be S tier ST in AOE specs

[south kayak]

Aren't we higher than mid

[normal bane]

much better than mid

[molten spire]

On raid we still do one thing better than anyone else

we delete adds that need to die

[winter shoal]

Still bottom 3rd on pure ST

[restive peak]

Pure ST? We're mid

[molten spire]

so there's always room for one or 2 fury warriors

[covert blaze]

all percentiles lul

[normal bane]

and now arms is good enough to flex for st/boss damage

if you wanted

[restive peak]

^

[south kayak]

that looks much more balanced than i expected

[tidal kindle]

2 weeks

[restive peak]

Class is extremely balanced and in a great place

[tidal kindle]

Not

[winter shoal]

Chill homie I just pulled it up

[tidal kindle]

1 day

[normal bane]

so as a class, we're very strong

[south kayak]

also yeah that's 2 weeks old

lol

change it to 1 day

[winter shoal]

Still divided by partition tho, it's the same if you say 1 day

[south kayak]

99th percentile

[tidal kindle]

No because we got buffs ytd

[restive peak]

95th percentile is more realistic than 99

[winter shoal]

I know how logs work you fucking chuds

[tidal kindle]

Now wait for EU logs to crawl in

[restive peak]

99 is high rolls on mechanics/RNG etc

[normal bane]

i sually do 90 or 95

usually

[winter shoal]

Here's 90p which is where I'm roughly at on M Sikran personally

[tidal kindle]

Im saying the data is being misrepresented because we got buffs upward 10% ytd

[winter shoal]

YMMV

[balmy shore]

nah idc about the yankees. mets were 4-0 against them this year btw

[tidal kindle]

So needs time to repopulate

[normal bane]

warrior is in a really good spot now for raid,i haven't done m+ yet so i can't comment on that

[restive peak]

Baseball bro

[molten spire]

On overall damage we are back o top

[winter shoal]

You would be right in a vacuum if they didn't make a new partition for this week, 1 day vs 2 weeks are the same data because of the new partition

[covert blaze]

all of the raiding scene raids on tuesday youre right

[restive peak]

If they changed MLB to 5 innings, sport would be goat'd

[tidal kindle]

Mets robbed hard....

[restive peak]

Fuck 9 innings

[molten spire]

And on M+ we are fine

[winter shoal]

He's right you know

[fresh creek]

With the execute buffs is it higher on prio list now?

[restive peak]

Bro I did an alt 4/8M clear last night, Tuesdays are for the memes

[winter shoal]

Not raiding on tuesday = L + ratio + didn't ask + move to NA

[balmy shore]

yup unfortunate that we were on the same side as the dodgers oh well. ALSO we took them to game 6 and the yankees… well… they kinda poopoo

[normal bane]

arms being good again is huge

[dry hawk]

Arms is better than fury now?

[normal bane]

since we just go that again for fights fury is not great at

[south kayak]

Survival #1 on st is crazy

[winter shoal]

Tbf at this point in the season, "all bosses" and 4/8 are basically the same thing bc so few logs exist for last two bosses

[balmy shore]

adding a pitch clock made the game way shorter and super watchable imo

[covert blaze]

every time i drop jugg i wanna scream

[restive peak]

My DK got solid blue parses man come @ me

[winter shoal]

YUGE

[restive peak]

It's an improvement, still too long/slow

[tidal kindle]

Agree, though thats one half of it
The other half is number of raiders reclearing on Tuesday vs number extending vs number raiding on other days

Those accounted for, I still agree with the sentiment fury ST is mid at best

[nocturne dragon]

Btw is there AM Thane build somewhere? Saw Icy and WoW all RA.

[south kayak]

we knew it was going to be mid and that's fine

what it was before wasn't

[coarse nest]

If I’m 14/16 of the buff tokens and not a single one dropped from all of heroic, am I forced to do an alt now to get the last two I need?

[molten spire]

critcakes latest video

[restive peak]

Garms is also correct about 80% of us past brood are extending at this point

[molten spire]

just do lfr

[tidal kindle]

I love statistics

[south kayak]

Can you check heroic sikran, just for curiousity's sake lol

[coarse nest]

I’m pretty sure I just didn’t loot one of the first 4 mythic bosses and now I’m short two

[normal bane]

fury is mid at ST, but its ok because we're broken-ish again in aoe. And st is what arms buffs are for

[fresh creek]

Is execute higher on the prio list now with the buffs?

[tidal kindle]

My stats prof made us try and find holes to misrepresent each others stats

[winter shoal]

Yeah we're better than we were before on pure ST, and those numbers are generally within the range of playing better, e.g. a 90 on fury is better than a 50 on BM

[south kayak]

No

[tidal kindle]

Great brain teaser

[molten spire]

does not having tier sets matter for arms?

i.e is unoptimal unpractice arms still better than ST fury

[south kayak]

Poor FDKs, now dead last

[winter shoal]

Only thing I remember from my stats class was someone made a comment about a specific kind of calculator they were using and the prof said "I'm sure that's interesting to someone"

[molten spire]

got too close to the sun

[south kayak]

the universe is healing

[restive peak]

Tier set swaps with your spec, you don't need another set for arms

[south kayak]

[molten spire]

oh TIL

[south kayak]

ITS HEALING!!

[restive peak]

Arms also likes basically all stats so it's a pretty easy swap tbh

[barren stone]

am i the only one who feels like AM now also feels like RA? like the apl wants us to press both Bloodthirst and RB before we press Rampage with no mention of casting Rampage at a certain rage % value so its fine to overcap now with AM? (speaking slayer AM MT apl)

[tidal kindle]

Now show top 20 court

[restive peak]

The APLs are likely still not 110% up to date my man

[tidal kindle]

[south kayak]

you can't except to be the best in each boss

[molten spire]

gigachad ele still there after huge nerfs

[tidal kindle]

Just do it...

[restive peak]

Ele is still very strong as well

[south kayak]

court is a fight that isn't suited for fury's strengths

[restive peak]

They actually did a REALLY good tuning pass

[winter shoal]

Me when I spread misinformation

[tidal kindle]

....just do it

[barren stone]

was thinking that as well seing archi mentioned it yesterday

[south kayak]

LMAO

[molten spire]

Ele is basically us as ranged now

[south kayak]

Aff?????/

the fuck is aff doing

get the fuck out of here

oh wait

[tidal kindle]

I hate box man.....

[dapper goblet]

^

[tidal kindle]

[south kayak]

[winter shoal]

[tidal kindle]

Now you see why I said top 20

[south kayak]

HE PIPES

[tidal kindle]

[barren stone]

? has nothing to do with my question

[winter shoal]

Garms the colossus god?

[south kayak]

now to look for Fury

[tidal kindle]

[south kayak]

Garms

[barren stone]

sometimes you are enraged after BT and rb 🤷‍♂️

[south kayak]

the 2nd arms is slayer

xdd

he doesn't know the tech

[tidal kindle]

Tbf I still tell people to play slayer on that fight

The build I played is mega cooked

[molten spire]

I can't believe I'll have to learn how to play arms

[south kayak]

also, the buffs to aff prob skyrocketed them in a fight like court

since they were already top there

or one of the best

[molten spire]

me only know one thing

[south kayak]

Yeah, what a surprise lol

[barren stone]

also telling me im spreading misinformation is implying that i do it on purpose which im not im simply asking from my point of knowledge

[south kayak]

@tidal kindle

[winter shoal]

I mean yeah I can only highlight one line at at a time but line 82 there covers the "RB spam" condition where you'll ramp after two RBs because of SS

[tidal kindle]

Misinfo = accidental
Disinfo = intentional

[molten spire]

they went too hard on ele IMO 😦

[tidal kindle]

The more you know

[molten spire]

my alt 😭

[winter shoal]

I'm mostly just messing with you tbf

[south kayak]

I think they should have nerfed aoe more but buffed ST

[molten spire]

At least resto is still ez invites

[south kayak]

instead they nerfed ST worse than aoe

ICANT

[tidal kindle]

Ele got the fury treatment

[winter shoal]

Like Linc said, APLs aren't necessarily up to date, although I don't think AM slayer will have any changes

[molten spire]

Yeah it was already mid at ST

[south kayak]

[molten spire]

and got gutted there

[south kayak]

ok so fury on court is 53 rank

first one

Trigw

Anyone knows who this is

[molten spire]

Can blizz stop making specs have insane burst so they are impossible to balance

[south kayak]

Holy

Gajeel is 65

[uneven plaza]

im 69

[south kayak]

how dare you lie

[restive peak]

I don't think you'd wanna run AM slayer anyway

[uneven plaza]

fug

[restive peak]

If you're hellbent on AM, just play thane

[south kayak]

lmao look at this

[winter shoal]

Despicable

[south kayak]

aff is crazy on court

any council fight with dots

[winter shoal]

Tell that to my guild's locks man

[normal yoke]

Hey gang, we expecting new builds/rotations sometime today? Or no?

[molten spire]

evoker despar

[winter shoal]

Not really no

Thane with no OF probably better than it was before

In keys I mean

Arms has some new builds I think, but then you have to play arms

[winged sail]

You mean Thane AM?

[brittle bluff]

thane with no onlyfans 🥵

[winter shoal]

AM or RA, either of them can drop OF for VC

[normal yoke]

Slayer still slightly ahead in raid encounters with add spawns, and pure ST encounters, then?

[winter shoal]

Yeah, only time you'd play thane in raid is M Court I think

[winter shoal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57dGT4yY1ew Crit goes over some builds here

[normal yoke]

I thought Thane was ahead for Broodtwister, nah?

[winter shoal]

Nah adds don't live long enough

[normal yoke]

Ah, fair

[south kayak]

you can really feel how bad your cleave is with no reap procs lmao

it's crazy

[idle ember]

Are tempered potions really better than the straight strength ones in m+>

[frank dawn]

yeah that's the only tuning I'm a bit meh about, but at the same time it also buffs both ST and AoE

but reap is pretty massive part of your damage on aoe now

[south kayak]

to be fair it's also like 60+ chance ot proc on 5 targets

so it should average out well

[sonic cedar]

Still can’t beat ret or enh in keys 😦

[south kayak]

stop comparing yourself to outliners lmao

[sonic cedar]

You right. Lol

[frank dawn]

ret is pretty broken, but I'm pretty certain our boss damage dumps on both of them when we're all in M+ specs

[south kayak]

you're in a good place in m+ and that's alll that matters

[frank dawn]

and that's worth something for sure

maybe not enh, I don't know anything about that spec lol

[sonic cedar]

Bro I’m 2800 and I still don’t get chosen for keys.

12 keys

[narrow narwhal]

12s, that's your problem

[south kayak]

I wouldn't say it's broken but it's strong

Biz himself seems to be competing with elementals and rets

[rotund ginkgo]

i'd like to formally apologize

FOR NOT GIVING A FUCK

[sonic cedar]

Funny enough is that I timed two 13s from my own keys. I can’t time a 12 to save my life right now.

[south kayak]

hahahaha

[brittle bluff]

so, we're not really changing any talents around in the raid, nor doing anything different huh

[south kayak]

no way

NO SHOT

[rotund ginkgo]

SHOT

[lavish beacon]

[south kayak]

gz tho

ele shaman probably has the best aoe burst in the game

[rotund ginkgo]

why would we

[restive peak]

Huge bro

[rotund ginkgo]

we just got a dam increase

[south kayak]

but it's kinda balanced around being 3m cd

so that's fair imo

[rotund ginkgo]

Time to not get invited into 12s but with more ilvl

[south kayak]

F

[restive peak]

And we are heavily competitive with basically everything damage wise yeah

[south kayak]

yeah, everyone else seems to be similar in terms of damage

excluding the outliners

[idle ember]

which one of these do you guys use in m+ because wowhead and icyveins are conflicting

[south kayak]

even then they're not that far

[restive peak]

Like I said, great tuning patch for the most part

Enh is still by far the biggest offender, but also they're gonna start to die in 15/16s

[south kayak]

better hope they don't attempt to tuen something else

later on

tune*

[remote bobcat]

did our single target build change at all?

no, right?

[restive peak]

No

[south kayak]

no it did not

[restive peak]

You play pure ST twice this tier anyway, so miniscule

[dull compass]

Can’t wait for the nerf

[south kayak]

I guess you can switch the Slayer choice nodes

Brutal Finish and Fierce

instead of the other ones

could be wrong tho

[restive peak]

Should've already changed those anyway

[south kayak]

I haven't so someone might not have lol

[winter shoal]

I use 1 star mastery flask bc they're cheaper

[south kayak]

is fdk now balanced too?

[tidal kindle]

Nah they play

Simp the enh

[south kayak]

they disappeared off the face of the earth

[tidal kindle]

Rn at least

Prot pally/disc/enh/aug/fdk

[south kayak]

fdk still meta?

thought they disappeared

[winter shoal]

For keys ya

[restive peak]

So lame we hate enh

[tidal kindle]

It does too much and lives too good

[south kayak]

to be fair, they're giga tanky lol

[restive peak]

We hate simps

[south kayak]

I love enha

[remote bobcat]

brutal finish is more single target than culling cyclone right

[dull compass]

I thought unholy got much improved

[remote bobcat]

anyone know by how much?

[dull compass]

Compared to frost

[winter shoal]

Raidbots does

[remote bobcat]

man I dont wanna sim that sht

aight i'll do it

[winter shoal]

Idk I simmed it last week before buffs and it was like 7k ahead maybe? To go BF + FF instead of CC + Opp

So a little bit more than that

But also it'll depend on your ger

gear

[south kayak]

guys if you're out of cds on slayer and you go into an aoe pack, just proc reap the storm, it's that simple

[wanton mirage]

thanks Lincc, your build is simming 40k higher in ST and 30k higher in 5T sustained

[restive peak]

❤️

It's also just giga fun

It's always nice when giga fun and strong align

[south kayak]

i think reap the storm is the most satisfying proc i've played with in a while lol

feels nice when it procs and you see your damage jump up a bit

[restive peak]

I may try a slayer key for the next 14

[remote bobcat]

brutal finish simmed 4k more dps than cyclone

for me

[south kayak]

do you stream

[remote bobcat]

decent

[restive peak]

Nah I set it all up but I never turn it on

Maybe once we start team pushing again

Brutal is also better for MT

So you just run brutal

Culling got nerfed too far

[south kayak]

Did you buy the upgraded Wrath set yet?

[restive peak]

and ramp got buffed a ton

Nah I'm slowly passively gaining the tokens but I don't really RP