fury

[smoky vale]

swap pe and ra

[snow edge]

Both charges

[cursive ridge]

ty, so, no changes

[snow edge]

Everything largely holds as it was, particularly for RA

[warm zephyr]

has wowhead been updated with optimal builds?

[opaque falcon]

What?

[smoky vale]

powerful enrage raging abandon

[tepid lily]

Should I craft 636 weapon

[opaque falcon]

When they gonna update the wowhead talents

[tepid lily]

sorry, this is not google

or chatgpt

[heavy dock]

ask them too

[tribal ridge]

probably a silly question but if I enchant a weapon then go on to upgrade it with valorstones do I lose the enchant or does it not matter?

[past pivot]

it stays

[tribal ridge]

thanks!

[trail bane]

After the buffs do we actually feel good about pressing Execute?

[past pivot]

lol

[heavy dock]

sadly no

[trail bane]

Then ill just keep dreaming myself back to when warriors actually looked forward to the execute phase

[trail glen]

Is it worth farming Flame wrath for the Raid BiS Setup?

[ornate pulsar]

AM slayer simming higher for me now than RA, does that seem correct now?

[dry hawk]

did we get a build change today/

[midnight jackal]

your execute is now Vicious Contempt if specced into it lol

[vernal ginkgo]

Lightning Strike was supposed to get a 30% buff but the aura change is 50% to 95%???

[modest condor]

yeah what's 195/150?

[vernal ginkgo]

Fair enough but with a smooth brain the aura just says 50% which to me makes it seem almost a 100% buff

[dawn flame]

bummer they decreased execute buff from 10% to 7%

[crude gate]

Doesn't move it in the priority order

[fiery hare]

just blizz doing blizz things,buff ability nobody uses by barely anything and expect it to be used

[past pivot]

you mean 5.7%'

[crude gate]

Relax it was part of a set of buffs that was really good for us and addressed our poor ST

[gusty helm]

Do we take Fierce followthrough instead of Opportunist now with slayer?

[gilded pawn]

can sim it

[trail bane]

So sad that my little guy has gotten demoted from being something everyone looks forward to press for big dam and instead now only gets pressed to reduce Bladestorm cd. RIP king

[gilded pawn]

execute hasnt hit hard since shadowlands

[dawn flame]

feels the same for me 😄

[trail bane]

Exactly

[gilded pawn]

how is fury execute in bfa

[crude gate]

If u care heaps about execute, play arms? It's bis for ST anyway

[gusty helm]

i dont think ppl were playing fury much in bfa but i could be misremembering

[trail bane]

i think i played arms in 8.0 and 8.1 , then fury in 8.2 and both in 8.3

fury during Ny'alotha prog i think was better

then when you got a billion haste arms started blasting like crazy

the days when you could be 10th on the dmg meter as arms and then the boss hits 35% and you start rising

[thorny lily]

hey, the execute with mark for execute stack is in the same spot of execute on aoe for slayer?

[gilded pawn]

yeah

[rocky thistle]

all tank comp with twilight devstation in nyalotha

[digital mauve]

is odn fury gotta go because of the target cap?

[sudden heath]

dungeon slice the right sim to use for M+? for top gear

[storm rune]

single target will sim your aoe correctly for everything but your trinkets

[trail bane]

Well yea and no, stats will have different worth when you add more targets.

But its really really hard to sim for a dungeon. Dungeon Slice is decent but not great.

If you want the best result you probably want to do multiple sims, one for each situation you might run into for a dungeon and then try to figure out what gear to get based on that

[honest karma]

Man that patch is some of the most fun i’ve had in wow

[trail bane]

Or you just go for the same gear as you would for single target, as thats good enough for almost everyone

[fathom valley]

I wonder who would be better for two target cleave

Mountain Thane or Arms

currently that is

[neat gazelle]

750m overral damage in a +3 stone vault is that dog shit or dogshit

[arctic sinew]

+3 says nothing without knowing your gear

[cursive ridge]

have to link dps not raw dmg

[past pivot]

That's basically ST

[gray wharf]

did builds change with the buffs?

[trail bane]

If its not arms then there needs to be more buffs to arms :D

[neat gazelle]

604 ilvl

[quiet geyser]

@modest condor with the small rampage buff, you test if brutal finish tops culling in ST?

[fathom valley]

bleh, arms on Silken mythic then 😦

[trail bane]

Silken and 2 target cleave are different things though

Since Silken Court spawns adds and have a lot of parts of the fight where you only hit one of the bosses

There its much closer between arms and fury

[marble swift]

im sure its been asked but its not in the pin, any change in the MT m+ build?

[honest karma]

I enjoyed that a lot

[trail bane]

Not that i know of. My personal guess though is that the MT m+ version where you dont play Titanic Rage and instead pick up Vicious Contempt is better now

[marble swift]

thanks

[restive pewter]

of course after i commit to double on use transmitter+shard

of course

[wintry snow]

I am siming Thane and Slayer really similarly in a 5 min boss fight now.

[marble swift]

odyns fury at all and 2 points in to VC?

[arctic sinew]

VC doesn't buff BB right?

[warm crag]

it do

[trail bane]

Not sure, i think OF will still be worth it

You could try both and see how it feels

[arctic sinew]

wait rly

i'm all in on vc in that case

[warm crag]

bt mods usually hit bb mods

[fickle cedar]

Btw does the biweekly raid buff count for logs ?

[smoky vale]

no clue

[astral path]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iYMDF8w7cN2sNYDc3?invite=cr-MSxqY1EsMjQ3NzIwNzQzLA

[eager thorn]

Dawnbreaker least buggy dungeon

[astral path]

https://medal.tv/games/world-of-warcraft/clips/iYML2HTrn2_GvnCtQ?invite=cr-MSw4ZWYsMjQ3NzIwNzQzLA

cursed key

[eager thorn]

Cursed ui

I respect having herbalism on ur bars though

[dry hawk]

So any talent changes?

[young swan]

nope

[smoky vale]

hi xan

[odd star]

cant wait to get home and play holy f...

rl sucks

[clever otter]

not missing much really

[midnight jackal]

same old fury you know, just a bit more damage

[tame gorge]

We still shelving Odyn's Fury on this? A bit of a shocker to see Slayer RA STILL on top

[ionic plaza]

so are we dropping OF for vicious contempt in both raid and m+ now?

[young swan]

dont think you ever drop OF on slayer (except on ST obviously)

[young swan]

doubtful

there are some exceptions that could be made

like silken court

[inner harbor]

we're cooked Fanu won't invite any of us

[young swan]

but thats about it

[idle ember]

Are there updated m+ numbers anywhere?

[dry hawk]

You drop of on st?

[young swan]

you dont?

[grim star]

in Thane AoE Im guessing we keep VCx2 and not OF

[dry hawk]

About to say I don't remember doing that

[young swan]

thats been a growing trend, yeah

[eager thorn]

You do

[ionic plaza]

i tried VC on thane today and yeah it was really nice. Just so many BT multipliers makes it hit like a truck really

[eager thorn]

The you dont was asking if u dont

No reason to take OF on st really

[arctic raft]

Shit man, he showed you with his superior QI

[honest karma]

Spear

[young swan]

OF is shit outside of aoe

[smoky vale]

bring back s3 tierset

[dry hawk]

Ok now my head fixing to explode

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/inside-out-anger-characters-gif-25501912

[young swan]

OF is almost shit in aoe too

[shut willow]

As someone unfortunate enough to still not have a Myth track weapon, is Flame Wrath worth using all the time since my off-hand is also 626? Or do secondary stats beat out the damage proc for multitarget?

[dry hawk]

About to just go clap in raid and be done

[smoky vale]

craft a 636 weapon?

[shut willow]

my mainhand is my crafted wep, 636

[arctic raft]

Yeah, I just miss the free enrage you get when you pop it in the opener

[fluid eagle]

HI GUYS CAN YOU GUYS FEEL THE BUFF?

[eager thorn]

I mean did you not just import the slayer st raid build

[smoky vale]

no

[eager thorn]

No cos it isnt live on eu

[fluid eagle]

HOW MUCH WE GOT STRONGER THAN BEFORE?

[smoky vale]

self cook

#updates-midnight

[dry hawk]

No?

[eager thorn]

Well theres ur first mistake

[honest karma]

Just remember to ramp before you spear

[wraith wharf]

they just couldnt let it slide in without giving us a nerf at the same time

(im kidding, i just find it funny)

[young swan]

i was about to bite your head off

[dry hawk]

[waxen vale]

buff fury? better nerf fury

[dull wolf]

next reset

[arctic raft]

Stop

[wraith wharf]

just all the talk of they forgot to nerf fury this week, turns out they did

[dry hawk]

Buff war Nerf rogue

[honest karma]

Nah nerf meme ret

[dull wolf]

with the bt / bb buffs there's no change in prio right?

[silk wharf]

I think I saw people were saying you probably don't skip any bloodbaths now

But thats just hearsay

[young swan]

^

u just dont skip BB anymore

otherwise its all the same

[molten spire]

Is fierce followthrough better now?

[young swan]

yeah

[molten spire]

over opportunisitc?

[young swan]

its been better for about 2 weeks now

somehting like that

[arctic raft]

So always spend both CB and BB before your next rampage?

[young swan]

but yeah, if you werent playin ff before, you definitely do now

[dull wolf]

when were you supposed to skip it before? if you were over 100 rage?

[young swan]

yar

[silk wharf]

I dont know anything by its name =/

[dull wolf]

i couldnt understand looking at the guide

[arctic raft]

Cheers

[silk wharf]

Im having to wowhead what fierce followthrough is

[young swan]

yeah pretty much

[arctic raft]

That makes it simpler honestly

[young swan]

it was like

[dull wolf]

i feel like top logs never actually skipped it

[young swan]

specifically during CD;s

where u skipped it

[turbid bay]

They did sjip it

[young swan]

and now u just dont do that

[dull wolf]

i was looking and ppl always had equal bb / cb

[inner harbor]

i swear this shit that warrior have a lower iq is so cringe

[turbid bay]

In opener and stuff

Where your overcapping

[dull wolf]

ye during bladestorm

[velvet bluff]

flame wrath sims the same as 2h 639 for me lol

[honest karma]

How you guys are able to track rage at all times, is baffling to my slow 35 yo brain. I just push buttons

[young swan]

i ahve my rage bar change colours at diff thresholds

[sick orbit]

are the wowhead guides talents update with the latest changes?

[turbid bay]

Red bar gets near full i press rampage

[silk wharf]

honestly, I dont. overcapping happens, I dont like it but the buttons need to get pressed.

[turbid bay]

[young swan]

red till 80, then green, and then orange at 110+

[honest karma]

That is a good deal

[fickle bluff]

@warm crag

[long glacier]

for raid or just of running slayer for m+

[young swan]

all the time

[long glacier]

kk

[dull wolf]

thanks for the info lads

[waxen vale]

does crit go up slightly in value or nah?

[zinc remnant]

guys, for raid are u using slayer or thane?

[honest karma]

Btw is that an option in WA or is it custom

[past pivot]

slayer of course

[young swan]

its just custom conditions

its really easy to set up

lemme log in

[honest karma]

Cool, i’ll do that myself. Thanks

[zinc remnant]

thx, i can use talents from "dps-faq", right?

[young swan]

slayer for everything except court

[atomic void]

for raid is better egg and transmitter right? even if mark is 639 ilv

[young swan]

you can still play slayer on court but it is noticeably worse than thane

[zinc remnant]

nice, can i use talents from "dps-faq"? Are they updated?

[young swan]

my settings

[hidden marsh]

have builds or prio changed at all from the buffs today?

[young swan]

yep!

theres one specifically for court

[honest karma]

Appreciate the effort!❤️ Will set it up like that

[storm rune]

It'd be nice if there was a time of edit on the FAQs

[terse meadow]

@livid carbon can u link that weakaura maybe ?

[storm rune]

Kinda hard trusting something that looks like it was posted 2 months ago

[young swan]

if you hover over the "edited" tag under the message it tells you

[storm rune]

oh wow, never saw that before

[young swan]

sorry, its a paid package from revves that I have tweaked to suit my needs

[zinc remnant]

thx man 🙂

[terse meadow]

Okay

[gusty cloak]

so has everyone swapped to AM with VC in M+? over RA and OF?

[honest karma]

@young swan btw do you know if bar length can be dynamically adjustet to fit a dynamic spell group?

[young swan]

it can but I have no idea what code you need to use to make that work

[terse meadow]

Are the New builds already in FAQ section? (The ones we will play with the Buffs) ?

[crude gate]

I think the RA Thane build is still best?

[young swan]

its some custom lua shit

[honest karma]

Meh

[young swan]

no change in any of the builds, so yep

[terse meadow]

Well nice 🙂

[nimble ermine]

unbridled fury is sleeper op this patch

https://tenor.com/view/electric-chair-funny-mad-tweaking-out-gif-9293908861474220487

[honest karma]

Where do you find this shit

[bold peak]

sooo thane or slayer this week?

[zinc remnant]

buffs really maked diference?

[crude gate]

Either. Rank 1 fury player still prefers slayer so you can make any of them work for you

[dry hawk]

I was running Slayer raid Thane M+

[astral path]

bloodthirst going crazy

[dry hawk]

thinking about dropping TRoar in Thane for Spear

[honest karma]

Wut

[waxen vale]

critcake did that last week iirc

[patent wedge]

Raging Blow with <100 and Opportunist is not active

What if i have 2 Raging Blow charges, Opportunist active and under 80 rage?

[waxen vale]

we dont play opportunist anymore

[balmy peak]

rank 1?

[dry hawk]

is BF and FF in slayer better now?

[thick elbow]

curious if vicious contempt is worth taking now over bloodcraze

[eager thorn]

So is taking ur meds

[waxen vale]

ff in all content ye

[nimble ermine]

i just hit the 6% each rampage

[eager thorn]

Based

[rare blaze]

Is dracthyr best race for us now?

[nimble ermine]

therefore i have 100% uptime

[eager thorn]

Casino build op

[astral path]

first time 20 is 3 fury with 100% uptime

prove me wrong

[young swan]

nah

[dry hawk]

what about

[nimble ermine]

play UF on thane and hit all the % for high dps

how many % things are on thane

i know 35% for tblast, 10% for avatar proc

i think 25% lighting bolt proc from rb and execute

i forgor

[pliant jackal]

pants are the right choice but the neck is temping

[dry hawk]

I feel like Brutal Finish will be stronger now

[nimble ermine]

loot sikran neck

[young swan]

can always just sim it

[dry hawk]

true

[azure badger]

you guys think its better to sim hectic add cleave or patchwork with 5 targets to see what would be better for raid aoe fights?

[zinc remnant]

why the most players use night elf for play warrior?

[young swan]

dont sim for aoe, just follow top parses

[young swan]

shadowmeld is really good in m+

[azure badger]

i meant for gear

[errant otter]

drop threat

[eager thorn]

Backflips cool

[sudden tusk]

the amount of times meld has saved my ass

[eager thorn]

Or front whichever it is

[young swan]

if ur asking about trinkets, just follow what other people are using

[azure badger]

nope im asking about stats

[young swan]

that doesnt matter

[azure badger]

rings and neck doesnt matter?

[zinc remnant]

aaah nice

[young swan]

if it has mastery on it, its good

that is unchanged between aoe and ST

[zinc remnant]

ahahaha really cool

[young swan]

crit gets more valuable as you add more targets, but not at an amount that you'd practically want to sacrifice other stats for it

certainly not in raid

[verbal rivet]

Finally got Writhing Ringworm. I have mastery now smh

[young swan]

gz

[verbal rivet]

Ty

[wet wraith]

doing normal for fineries before raid, boys the buffs are going hard, kyveza

[strange spindle]

is there an updated spec

[wet wraith]

i've been running the old slayer raid build

[young swan]

nothing substantial has changed, no

[strange spindle]

just swap opportunist out?

[young swan]

pretty much

[versed coyote]

brutal finish or culling?

[upbeat swan]

Brutal finish is just better than cyclone for me on ST sims, im guessing thatll apply to AOE too?

[young swan]

yeah

[mossy fox]

yes

[summer quail]

I wonder if dropping bloodborne for 1 point vc might be good. this might also be me overcooking tho

[upbeat swan]

banger ty

[errant jay]

Anyone can help me with rotation prio? Im still confused if you rampage on cd top prio if u already are enraged or first use the enhanced rb -> bloodbath for ST

[versed coyote]

so many talent pages so many changes

😭

[young swan]

if ur NOT running OF/Roar, absolutely

[dry hawk]

thane is unchanged for court right?

or fuck off with TR?

[summer quail]

yeye i mean if running OF/roar. very high chance i am overcooking tho

[young swan]

id run spear instead but yeah thats fine

[molten spire]

Spear over roar?

[summer quail]

damage amp phase

is big for spear

[sullen dove]

i know a certain discord server where some of those are just thrown around daily

[young swan]

weird

[tidal kindle]

What if all the top public parses are cooked compared to the top private ones

[sullen dove]

tmy when he runs ravager on tindral instead of bladestorm and does 150k higher than the next person in his private log with the most perfect phase timings and ppl afk on roots

thane man yes

gio feature

[tidal kindle]

Boomiexd 1.3m kyveza week 1 at 622, meanwhile publics

[languid crown]

Im kinda wondering when to run powerful enrage over frenzy enrage, anyone that knows when and why?

[sullen dove]

just rolled some crits

also assuming you only saw details its possible he has extra bombardment dmg from the devs

cuz thats not given back to evokers in details

[tidal kindle]

Nah thd peeped me the log

🪵

[sullen dove]

naw...

[tidal kindle]

I was like

"What if I play fury"

[sullen dove]

leak it

[tidal kindle]

Bro our warrior did 1.3m as arms

[sullen dove]

immediately

must study it

for when it becomes relevant to me in 4 weeks

[tidal kindle]

He just showed the dam

I no leak or I lose privileges

[sullen dove]

[orchid iron]

little thing but raidbots is saying to stack Quick Onyx's instead of using unique ones to max the diamond

[sullen dove]

did you specifically say to use all 4

[dry hawk]

👀

[tidal kindle]

I imagine a good chunk of it is due to having mandate + WFirst kill being omega long

= infinite execute ramp

[orchid iron]

was this to me?

[sullen dove]

yea theres a setting to say "always use 4 colors if using this gem"

idk if u have that turned on or not

[orchid iron]

oh ok, ill take another look

[nimble ermine]

can reset happen already

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[sullen dove]

not sure if it like.. decides if monocolor is better or will do 4 no matter what

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[lament lagoon]

Slayer RA in raid?

still?

[past pivot]

yes

[queen panther]

I have no idea what to pick out of my vault...... mythic track item set hands (don't have enough crests to upgrade it) Mythic chest that I can catalyst (again can't upgrade it) heroic MqM (just to mess around with), or catalyst my mythic belt and slap a socket on it.

[atomic void]

egg with transmitter or egg with mark for raid ?

help

[summer quail]

🤖

[crude gate]

Noxiv

[worldly cave]

mark of khardros still 1.5m cooldown?

[atomic void]

both are 1.5

[nimble ermine]

y-yes?

why would it be different

[covert void]

I mean, normally you farm the creats after you get your vault piece no? for the week.

crests*

[past pivot]

ask again in 45 minutes to keep your streak up

[atomic void]

and already sim but recommend Mark and Transmitter

so idk

[neat wharf]

whats the concensus on spear vs roar for m+?

[sudden tusk]

thane man

[sullen dove]

[young swan]

irrelevant

[oak phoenix]

send talents ❤️

[uncut pawn]

you love to see it

[sudden tusk]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDzCmZWghZwwMMzssNzYmZ2YmZmZGmhNMMzYAAAgwYgNYZxoxMgMLwixC

[crude sierra]

im smooth brain

do i need to change anything from buffs today? ive been rocking the regular slayer mythic + build

and the regular raid slayer single target build

[nimble ermine]

yeah you start playing unbridled fury

[past pivot]

Go Thane

[young swan]

stop

[sullen dove]

xan big UF fan

[crude sierra]

for m+? @past pivot

[nimble ermine]

misinformation shall be spread

[young swan]

nah not really, reimport builds from #dps-faq if you like, I believe they're all updated

[crude sierra]

w thank you goat

[young swan]

thane in m+ is definitely very real

[crude sierra]

so no more slayer in mythic + 😦

[young swan]

you can def still play it if you like

but its not better than thane

[crude sierra]

mm imma try it

thats updated in the faq?

[young swan]

noxivv is r1 warrior and hes been playing exclusively slayer

[young swan]

should be! nothing changed from last week to this week and they were updated last week

[astral path]

AM or RA

[nimble ermine]

slayer build is still the same

[sudden tusk]

ra

[young swan]

so should be good to go

[nimble ermine]

you just play UF on slayer now

[astral path]

me when i want to AM 😔

[unborn fulcrum]

Hi all, do you think I should take a hero track poisoned pact ring, or a myth track tier chest?

[sullen dove]

n = 1

(anda favorite comeback)

[smoky vale]

swordish noob

[sullen dove]

?

[young swan]

can kinda get tier chest whenever, very rare ring is highly desired and irreplaceable except by a mythic version

[sudden tusk]

sworBITCH

[young swan]

thoughts ?

[livid vigil]

for AM thane ST, is it just always BT>RB now? or only below 35%

[sullen dove]

@hallow sphinx L

[unborn fulcrum]

ty! Makes sense to me - I'll go with the ring

[young swan]

they flip back and forth

[sullen dove]

holy gottem

noxiv noober

[proud leaf]

do we really pay attention to slayer's strike stacks or do we just send execute if it's available?

[hard widget]

Its fake, Xantaga is rank 1

[young swan]

real

hidden secret r1

only does 10s and 11s

power is too great

[modest condor]

#1 in 10s and 11s

[hard widget]

Rio doesnt update his score so people dont get jalouse

He's about 300 io ahead currently

[nimble ermine]

xan is a terrorist

[young swan]

i am not a terrorist

[vagrant hinge]

You were in my siege

[young swan]

shut up sine

[vagrant hinge]

Man died 18 times before the first boss

[nimble ermine]

do you deny the bombing of that arakara with your theorycraft build

[young swan]

just not true!

[modest condor]

what a terrorist

[summer quail]

this is coz noxiv plays slayer and refuses to play thane(in my very non biased slayer hating opinion)

[young swan]

wasnt my fault

[nimble ermine]

im pretty sure osama said the same thing back in 2001

[young swan]

according to one of my loyal viewers, the hunter was eating web sprays for breakfast

and the tank was shoveling spoonfuls of drywall into his mouth

[nimble ermine]

they lost motivation after they saw you on that 1st pull

[young swan]

real

im starting ansurek prog tonight and I planned all of my defensives for p1 + intermission

decidely not terrorist activity

[molten spire]

mythic prog?

[nimble ermine]

you act as if you had a choice

[sudden tusk]

they just nerfed heroic you shuold be solid

[young swan]

yeah

[young swan]

blow up

[young swan]

was entirely my choice

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[nimble ermine]

are you gonna be streaming it

i need to watch something while i wait for EU reset

[young swan]

depends on raid performance

if i dont tank while streaming i could

but this raid is optimized like actual dogshit

[nimble ermine]

yea ik

[verbal rivet]

I was kinda hoping they wouldn’t nerf tf out of Heroic. Was just getting to prog it and now it’s…a lot easier. Probably getting AotC this week then

[nimble ermine]

im so glad they are fixing it soon™️

[young swan]

and I will not be saccing pulls for stream content

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1300227368543195308/ccu7dbw-ezgif.com-resize4.gif

[sudden tusk]

Queen might be the worst P1 ive ever had to fight

[nimble ermine]

can this gif get any worse

[young swan]

what is wrong wtih u

genuinely

[young swan]

yeah it looks so miserable

[warm crag]

gets funnier every time

[oblique trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1300227368543195308/ccu7dbw-ezgif.com-resize4.gif

[verbal rivet]

Would be more upsetting if you did break pulls for content

[warm crag]

queen p1 is totally fine wdym

just count to 4 then move

less suicide inducing than court

[young swan]

mechanics vomit for 2 minutes straight

[verbal rivet]

It’s getting the other 19 idiots with you to also do that.

[young swan]

into the most annoying mechanic in the entire game

[warm crag]

yeah its not that hard

[oblique trail]

I'm personally convinced p1 ansurek is great

[warm crag]

which one

popping?

[young swan]

pull ins

i hate that shit

so much

[warm crag]

ye its kinda

[verbal rivet]

Intermission can f right off

[warm crag]

we discussed we'd get time spiral for the 2nd pullin

[summer quail]

i've not gotten to queen mythic yet but is it worse than echo of neltharion? that might be the most boring p1 ever

[verbal rivet]

But Ansurek p1 is a vibe

[warm crag]

i got time spiral once (when i asked for it) holy moly

[oblique trail]

Like I've trolled quite a few p1 pulls, but still think it's great

[sudden tusk]

theres just so much damage

[smoky vale]

I AM

[oblique trail]

As long as they fix Web blades sometimes being desynced or bigger than they actually are

[smoky vale]

I AM

I AM

IAM

IAM

[sudden tusk]

its wild to think how that boss basically got a 15% damage nerf

[viscid condor]

starting to think I prefer slayer in m+

[verbal rivet]

It’s a lot of mechanics, but it’s very consistent timings for it. Feels more like a bullet hell then a usual raid boss

[sudden tusk]

and WFR people were crushing it at 5 less Ilvl

[summer quail]

that's fine, i kinda like when you're on edge the entire time

[young swan]

just BS + ER in the shit poop

[sudden tusk]

its not even on edge. 1 bad pattern and 1-2 people die its rough

[oblique trail]

I already told Spongie this

[warm crag]

idk bs was kind of rng whether i'd get it there

[oblique trail]

But he does not listen

You have over a minute to get it back

[warm crag]

like i'd get it 80% of pulls but i don't want to troll the other 20%

[oblique trail]

You noober

[warm crag]

if the first BS is giga trash rng i cannot control it bitch boy

now shrink

[oblique trail]

Then just hold??

[smoky vale]

biggest hater

[warm crag]

wtf

[verbal rivet]

That macro tho

[warm crag]

immediately get a grip

you died to web blades 20 more times than me and refused to respond to my dms

[oblique trail]

You are the one saying you don't get BS back consistently

[thin cliff]

holy crap I haven't seen that macro since like... vanilla AV

[oblique trail]

You need to increase your grip instantly

[summer quail]

pay to win, swap dracthyr

[verbal rivet]

Wish I had those ngl

[azure badger]

when do we use frenzied enrage vs powerful enrage?

[warm crag]

maybe you should stop being so insanely toxic to me and apologise how about that

[last oxide]

We still play same build for ST?

[smoky vale]

ask mr ish

[oblique trail]

Yes

[young swan]

@sullen dove woah u call them cresticles too

we're basically the same person

epical

[sullen dove]

twin

[smoky vale]

mr ish is my opp

[sullen dove]

now make me blue

[smoky vale]

bro hatesm e

[young swan]

hmm

no

[oblique trail]

In ST they're interchangeable, but outside of that basically always powerful

[sullen dove]

die

[smoky vale]

real

MAKE ISH BLUIE

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-gif-11512148920835024334

[verbal rivet]

@sullen dove would you share your troll macros? I need to insult bad tanks in better fashion.

[warm crag]

hello car!!!!

[sullen dove]

dude there is no way

macros just dont get saved

[summer quail]

following xeos footsteps hmhm

[sullen dove]

like if you accidentally delete it

so fucking easily

cuz the game is ba

bad

no undo button

i just deleted my among us one

[verbal rivet]

NOOOOO

[sullen dove]

have to retype every single marker again

there is literally a save and cancel button

why do these exist

cosmetic as fuck

[regal vector]

we knew about all these right? they just made a post

[sullen dove]

ya

[young swan]

ye

[sullen dove]

just resent the same post but as official "hotfixes"

and not datamining or whatever the first one was

[regal vector]

aah

ty

[sullen dove]

when youre in a try not to repost the same content 5 times in a week challenge and your opponent is wowhead

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-22780945

[rocky forum]

what build r we using for aoe raid

[nimble ermine]

funniest wowhead post

[sullen dove]

most useless title

[nimble ermine]

wow fury doesnt get a full execute buff

[sullen dove]

you know how they were buffed by 9% before

[nimble ermine]

dookie class delete

[sullen dove]

it is now 8.7

better dedicate a post to that

[nimble ermine]

trying to get clicks and for what bro

just to see the most whatever change of all time

[plush raven]

there is a way to track imminent demise with a weakaura?

[keen fulcrum]

Cresticles and cuckstones

[sullen dove]

chuckstones

[clear tendon]

for m+ are we running slayer or thane?

[sullen dove]

whatever your heart desires

[smoky vale]

^

[sullen dove]

both cool

[smoky vale]

i run execute prot war in m+

giga gamer

[clear tendon]

are they pretty equal now?

[nimble ermine]

give the man a concrete answer

[smoky vale]

yeah

[nimble ermine]

coward

[smoky vale]

pref

[sullen dove]

thane prolly more overall

[smoky vale]

no

[oblique trail]

Yes, you go into auras of a weakaura and track the imminent demise debuff on your target, there are however likely already specific weakauras made for this on wago.io

[smoky vale]

fuck you mel

[sullen dove]

slayer prolly more boss dam

can i please trade either these valorstones or radiant echoes to alts man...

[crystal musk]

Why does fully upgraded myth transmitter show as no DPS gain despite bloodmallet saying it is BIS?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wqVfneWG8TMDgiV7WufQXi

[sullen dove]

both are so useless on my main

[icy estuary]

is FF better than opportunist now?

[sullen dove]

has been for a few weeks i think

should def be now

[sullen dove]

unsure but my guess might be your mast is kinda on the lower side where mastery on the on use more/equally valuable than strength

[crude sierra]

so to make it east on my self use the MT odyns fury build in mythic + and still use multitarget slayer for raid @young swan

[sullen dove]

possibly if you had like another ring with a decent bit of mastery on it it'd change it's mind

[icy estuary]

thanks...also another question, wrath and fury over Ashen juggernaut? or that was always the case and I had a messed up build?

[sullen dove]

but i mean 639 shard is already real good

[crystal musk]

Okay thank you, I thought it might be an issue of secondary stats

[sullen dove]

yea i mean idk that for sure but just would be my guess

cuz i believe transmitter is the best on use at equal ilvl

and if skarm makes up for some extra mast you might not have then yippee

[sullen dove]

have always had WnF for like the whole expansion

maybe that might change now since bt/bb got buffed a ton

possible raging blow damage not as prevalent

[ionic plaza]

RA or AM for raid?

[sullen dove]

but like AJ isnt that great either in anything but st

ra

[fluid mist]

Link bild thane RA ?

[icy estuary]

@sullen dove thanks

[sullen dove]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps 😄

🫡

[quiet geyser]

lmao wtf

i thought the execute 7% was universal, didnt realize it was only fury

[sullen dove]

theres no way it wasnt given to arms too rite

[stable ermine]

am i not supposed to use execute at all unless I have 3 stacks of marked for execution in ST?

[lavish vector]

Guys I have a vault question. Is Mutineer's fate the move here?

[stable ermine]

it seems like i should use it on CD bc it reduces the CD of Bladestorm

[quiet geyser]

arms/prot is still 10%

[sullen dove]

how can u tell

[sudden tusk]

theres no way to know

[gilded pawn]

Says so on patch notes

[sullen dove]

i mean unless u like look at the datamine stat whatever ppl look at

[marble swift]

i legit dont feel like the buffs did anything

[gilded pawn]

Archi will tell us if anything changes

[quiet geyser]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-hotfixes-october-29th-349420?utm_source=discord-webhook

[keen fulcrum]

My guild decided to take an assa rogue into Mythic raid tonight. He did 500k dps on Ulgrax. 🙂

[keen fulcrum]

Bet they're glad they chose him over me. 🤷

[sullen dove]

o.. surely just an oversight... since prev blue post said it was a warrior class change

cuz if its not that is insane

[gilded pawn]

Consuming 1 vs 3 stacks gives the same amount of total cdr

[sullen dove]

fury execute is piss

[quiet geyser]

not that the fury change really affects fury... but like fury is the spec that needed execute buffed the most lmao

seems backwards

[gilded pawn]

Yeah lol

[quiet prawn]

I heard some fury warriors use the arms loot spec for a bigger chance at a 2h wep, is that true or should I just use the fury loot spec? For the great vault I mean

[gilded pawn]

Arms always

[nimble ermine]

arms

fury can get you one handers

which are stinky poop

[copper lily]

Always arms, to stop one handers dropping

[quiet prawn]

happened to me a week ago and thought I just got unlucky. Thank you.

[nimble ermine]

rip

[pure echo]

LMAO so brutal finish and fierce follow through are single target now

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xAL9YVgTAyeHj1pwnmN2Sq

[nimble ermine]

that's just a miserable happenstance

[pure echo]

any other changes talent wise to fury/arms build today?

[nimble ermine]

yeah you play unbridled fury

https://tenor.com/view/ronaldo-gif-23832997

[stable ermine]

So i should use it at 1 stack always? Wowhead is saying use it at 3 stacks in execute phase? Is that right?

[oblique trail]

I think you should stop recommending UF

[static rock]

WELP

[oblique trail]

The joke is fun the first 1 or 2 times

[mossy fox]

im guessing they only buffed mainhand exe and didnt think about offhand and decided to change the patch note instead of buffing offhand exe accordingly

[chilly fractal]

you gotta get the answers out of them, Crit

[quiet geyser]

so lazy blizz being lazy

[sullen dove]

surely not bf...

[pure echo]

robot says so :/

[gilded pawn]

At 3 stacks yes

Always

[sullen dove]

[gilded pawn]

They clearly thought about it though

[sullen dove]

must verify

[compact knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b4a1GwUwPGQErvoxvRCRJQ

[mossy fox]

brutal value went up with ramp buff

[compact knot]

thats great actually

[gilded pawn]

If they adjusted offhand

[mossy fox]

so wouldnt surprise

[vocal flame]

are the new builds up on wowhead?

[mossy fox]

oh yeah

idk then

[sullen dove]

if 20% ramp dam was enough to win BF over on st then cyclone has no reason to exist

bf was already the aoe talent

[gilded pawn]

They nerfed offhand on the first iteration

[gilded pawn]

Yeah brutal for both specs are worthless

[pure echo]

was thinking some MS related talents might gain value as arms but havent figured out what id remove to use them

[quiet geyser]

10%*

[mossy fox]

still a whatever change but would be nice to know what the thought process was

[pure echo]

but idk if anyhing changes with fury builds yet

[nimble ermine]

i dont think there was any thought process

[sullen dove]

[quiet geyser]

only bt/bb got the 20% treatment sadly

[nimble ermine]

maybe they thought if our execute did the full 10% damage it would be too strong in st or something

[sullen dove]

oh nah...

BF is 4k more dps than cyclone...

[devout apex]

anyone else having trouble completing awakening the machine? i finished it, collected my 4 boxes, and it said 16/20 waves cleared

[mossy fox]

maybe we actually do have a warrior main dev then

[quiet geyser]

dude fury execute needs god

[sullen dove]

L cyclone

[nimble ermine]

i know

[nimble ermine]

so true

i wouldnt be surprised if they let an intern handle it

"buff warrior without buffing odyns and bladestorm"

[sullen dove]

in a 5min sim bladestorm loses 2mil dam and ramp gains 3.4mil dam

lmao

killed a choice talent

wonder if same is tru for arms

[nimble ermine]

masterful gambint btw

[sullen dove]

surely MS with 500 other damage modifiers doesnt make BF better st on that too

[nimble ermine]

nerf cyclone to be irrelevant in st

buff rampage to make BF good in aoe and st builds

[mossy fox]

i found mixed results for arms when i was simming this evening

couldnt make sense of it though

[sullen dove]

you still supposed to opportunist arms rite

or no

[mossy fox]

uh yesnt

[sullen dove]

ig depends if more crit followthru can be cool

but rn seems smol

[kind hill]

how much difference on clouds and thorim as thane?

[sullen dove]

and like 20% mortal strike dam isnt crazy as again, 500 other dmg modifiers

where 20% bt/bb is cool

[gilded pawn]

You can probably make minor apl optimization to optimize brutal finish

Like sending it with some amount of MP or LF

[cursive hound]

How are the buffs feeling

[sullen dove]

oh nah

brutal finish arms 10k higher than cyclone

for me

its over

remove the choice node

bs loses 2mil again and ms gains 5mil dmg

[quiet geyser]

remove both for fan of long swords

[sullen dove]

😭

[quiet geyser]

😄

[oblique trail]

Sim it, but still fairly significant in Thorims favour when I checked a small while ago

[chrome python]

I'm not seeing any builds from Archimtiros using FF.

[oblique trail]

The 30% more chance to proc lightning strikes is only 30% off the base chance, so it's a lot worse than it sounds

[restive peak]

Still thorim, checked and played around w it earlier

[sullen dove]

eh i mean possible minor talent swaps like that arent updated as frequently, cause a couple thousand again isnt crazy but psure it just is better like anytime anyone here has simmed the difference

can try it for yourself

[chrome python]

👍 k thanks

[pure echo]

out of curiosity did you find any changed builds for either fury or arms with current apl?

[pure moon]

yeah, FF are simming higher for me

[summer quail]

either just not updated or maybe it sims less for some people idk. was pretty big difference for me even before the buffs this week

[pure moon]

brutal finish too

[mossy fox]

did a video and posted an hour ago

not much new for fury but interested in the arms cooks

[sullen dove]

k looks like BF/Opportunity is the way on arms

[pure echo]

cool i'll check it out, just got on right before raid xd

[sullen dove]

1.535 vs 1.517 swapping to the other two

[summer quail]

when i get to queen mythic(in like 2 months from now) i will try a spear no odyns build

big cook

[covert blaze]

[mossy fox]

it varied between builds for me, all 4 choices showed up

[sullen dove]

r u like using diff builds in a top gear

i just quick simmed all 4 combos

[mossy fox]

but ye opp was almost always better

[sullen dove]

maybe is locked in its one way variance thing but idk

yer

[mossy fox]

ye i checked a few different builds and ran them separately with all slayer choice node combinations

confused me tbh but i'll just doublecheck each time i sim a build now to be sure

[summer quail]

fury is mostly there for adds in p3 for ansurek right? if so i genuinely think spear might be good(mythic that is)

[inner delta]

Do we bother running 4 different algari gems or just stick with the one? My sims are 50/50..

[sullen dove]

and yea BF/FF for fury st for me too

5kish loss to go cyclone and 10k loss to go opportunist

1.459 top end 1.445 low end

so ff/opportunist at least actually exist one for each spec

but cyclone is d e a d

[mossy fox]

tbh that choice node didnt do anything anyway

[sullen dove]

yea just funny number

[mossy fox]

literally just bigger sim number better, didnt do anything

[summer quail]

wdym crit??? it increases bladestorm damage by a flat amount! insane aoe talent

[sullen dove]

sure hope the ulgrax weapon drops tn

[eternal lance]

[steel shadow]

Is WC logs bugged right now?

[mossy fox]

[sullen dove]

16k dps on fury

missing that fuckin weapon

[vapid tiger]

Am I misunderstanding the Culminate blasphemite gem? It sounds like I should use varied gems but when I sim it seems to pick all of the exact same one.

Or is the answer that stat combo is doing more damage than the secondary effect of the gem?

[summer quail]

how many ulgrax kills? also are you the only warrior

[sullen dove]

like 6 and yea

only other person who wanted it was a blood dk holding off on crafting a weap but he got one out of vault last week

but just has not dropped once

[covert blaze]

wym

[sullen dove]

does it show a 0 or 100 for you probably

and yea cuz new partition

cuz bunch of class changes

[summer quail]

[sullen dove]

goofy to reset it after literally 1 week tho

[vernal night]

ok just got home from work is there a new best build or still the same? for m+

[covert blaze]

it was because of bugged outlaw

[winter shoal]

Same build

[sullen dove]

just let me parse 99 on a 10% stronger from furies last week

yea that makes sense ig

[winter shoal]

Yeah I'm a bit of a gamer

[sullen dove]

i just assumed they could remove those

but too much work

[vital flower]

So can pick between Shard from SV or Transmitter, heard a lot of people arent fans of transmitter. thoughts?

[steel shadow]

For some reason its showing our logs having all 100 parses with 0 other parses on heroic rn

[primal drift]

did that last week too

itll fix itself

it you're that curious go look into the boss dmg under raids

[summer quail]

if equal ilvl transmitter

[covert blaze]

that's normal on the first day

[vital flower]

What i was thinking but a lot of people told me the orb use always screw them over, i just pug everything so debating on slightly better or ease of use.

[steel shadow]

Ahhh, that makes sense cuz I nomrallyt raid on wed/thur

[celest sierra]

FURY IS BACK BABY

[oblique trail]

People frankly are also just being extremely silly (and dumb) about Transmitter usage

It's not as bad as a lot of people make it out to be

[summer quail]

people overreact ngl

[vital flower]

yea i figured, ill take it. thanks for the opinions

[fresh iris]

Look slightly to the right, press button?

[oblique trail]

A little tip is that you always spawn the ball/pad to the front right of where your character is facing

[summer quail]

and get the weakaura that says what you have to do

[vital flower]

good to know, getting the WA now

[dry hawk]

sikran thoughts?

[oblique trail]

Idk why you got WW talents for Sikran

[snow edge]

Why are you running WW talents on Sikran.. ?

[oblique trail]

Nor AM?

[sudden tusk]

@sullen dove fear me

[oblique trail]

Just get the ST talents from wowhead or #dps-faq

[snow edge]

That whole build is a trainwreck

[oblique trail]

Seismic will for sure do you a lot of good as well on ST

[young swan]

reap and slayers strikes crittign for 1.2m lmfao

literally as much as a spear crit

[nimble kraken]

How behind is anger management?

Feels way more fun to play

[acoustic yoke]

wtf how?

actual gamer

[dry hawk]

sorry, that build was a ghetto ass M+ Switch

[acoustic yoke]

why AM though?

[dry hawk]

its not better for faster CD's?

[oblique trail]

That's not how AM works

[acoustic yoke]

the main question hasn't been answered

[snow edge]

It's not as good as the standard ST build; nothing has changed in that regard

[oblique trail]

Mate really, just go get whatever top loggers use/the ST talents from wowhead

[robust widget]

So we just brutal finish on everything, both aoe and ST?

[acoustic yoke]

i do

[hard widget]

To be fair, AM is VERY close to RA

But there are some things to consider

[snow edge]

You can run AM in M+ as Thane, and the niche AM Slayer build on Brood (for Mythic), but otherwise you're largely going to be sticking with RA tbh unless you want to play funny-builds

[oblique trail]

But to give you an answer, no, quicker CDs =/= better

You get your CDs back faster, but also fairly significantly lower sustained damage outside of the CDs

[acoustic yoke]

fair but AM on sikran feels wrong ngl

[crude gate]

IMO if two builds are close to equal in numbers with full uptime, but AM suffers more from downtime, then RA is better

[oblique trail]

And the other question to ask, do you really benefit from getting said CDs back quicker

[dry hawk]

ok, my bad ripped a build off of a top 5 warrior on Sikran

[oblique trail]

On Sikran you don't

[restive peak]

There are fights/killtimes where AM could potentially win overall

[acoustic yoke]

like ur not on sikran a lot sometimes

depending on rng

[hard widget]

Problem with a lot of fights is that u have forced downtime, and forced downtime is usually kinda meh for AM

[snow edge]

There's limited logs under the new dataset, so take everything with a grain of salt

[restive peak]

RA is just better for actually killing a boss as well

That's the real important piece

[dry hawk]

thats the mythic log I found

[restive peak]

but AM could highroll on a good killtime, RA is more consistent

[hard widget]

AM performed better for me untill i got a mechanic, then RA did better

[oblique trail]

And this is why I think AM is dogshit 👍

Hate being an uptime slave

[restive peak]

Yeah AM is more lottery

[acoustic yoke]

the pull when I highroll AM is the pull we wipe

[primal drift]

is that furytww?

[hard widget]

Yep u gotta squeeze uptime or ur better off playing RA

[restive peak]

I'm gonna do RA thane keys post alt raid in a few

[acoustic yoke]

never the pull we kill

[restive peak]

But I do think AM is better for M+

[oblique trail]

How do you highroll AM though

[mossy fox]

i highkey inted on kyveza last week with am slayer

[hard widget]

Slayer strikes i guess

[restive peak]

You get zero mechanics lol

[acoustic yoke]

^

[restive peak]

I meant on a raid fight

[oblique trail]

right

so just go RA

[mossy fox]

still did good tho but im sure i baited ppl lmao

[restive peak]

Where you can just sit and bang it out

You def did Crit LOL

[oblique trail]

Where you care much less whether you get mechanics or not

[restive peak]

I saw that

And I was like "here it comes"

RA is more fun for raid anyway

[sullen dove]

idk what those do

[acoustic yoke]

anni coins

to buy shit

[sudden tusk]

anniversry items

[mossy fox]

i just felt like doing it for whatever reason

the memes i guess

[oblique trail]

If people ask I will simply ping you

👍

[acoustic yoke]

it was an AM slayer type of day

i understand

[sudden tusk]

arms is technically AM slayer

: )

[mossy fox]

this is why people shouldnt copy what i do

i just do what i want sometimes

[restive peak]

Did you get crazy lucky on lack of mechanics? I cant remember

[kind hill]

am thane simms 6k higher so i kinda go with what i like more?

[mossy fox]

ye i dont think i got anything

maybe 1 add?

[restive peak]

Ye wild highroll

LMAO

[acoustic yoke]

the actual dream

[restive peak]

When do you guys get online

?

How many more hours

[oblique trail]

2½

[restive peak]

Ooooooof

[acoustic yoke]

EU is up in like 2:30

[mossy fox]

ye ill be sleeping

[restive peak]

Bed o clock

[mossy fox]

[acoustic yoke]

4 am vault openings go hard

[restive peak]

I'll pop in your stream and sass ya tm big dog

[acoustic yoke]

you sleep disappointed or happy

[mossy fox]

what if you get a tricky vault and you still cant decide after simming for 3 hours

i guess just ask your favourite streamer to pick for you

[oblique trail]

I'll ask my favourite streamer

@warm crag what do I pick in my hypothetical vault

[mossy fox]

hosen

[oblique trail]

584 Serum or mythic Ansurek ring?

[oblique trail]

If there are any I will combust them

[acoustic yoke]

does the ring have tertiary?

[robust widget]

token for gold

shit vault

[acoustic yoke]

hypothetically

[oblique trail]

Yes I titanforged 2 tertiaries

[acoustic yoke]

holy

buy a half a spark then

GG go next

[oblique trail]

(pretty sure this is real lore)

[robust widget]

so we playing brutal finish and fierce followthrough on ST it looks like as slayer?

[acoustic yoke]

i play both in M+ even

on the rare occasions i slayer in dungs nowadays

[robust widget]

in m+

[compact knot]

god i feel so strong on single target now

[acoustic yoke]

i did AM thane today and I think i had an aneurysm

my brain could not comprehend having to rampage b4 sending cds in M+ idk why

[edgy widget]

no, they buffed mainhand and nerfed offhand in order to equalize their coefficients again

[frail trout]

do rasha'nan adds count for logs now or nah

[acoustic yoke]

yes

[oblique trail]

They do

Have been for a week now

[sullen dove]

yea lets hit up the spiteful serenity slayer build

[frail trout]

ah I sat rasha last week, wasn't sure when the change went live

[mossy fox]

yeah getting used to titanic rage (which is super nice to play with) kinda does that

[acoustic yoke]

yeah switching off it requires some brain rewiring for sure

[summer quail]

you get used to it after a while, especially if you played dragonflight where we used dancing blades. just muscle memory then

[junior gale]

so it is really happening Critcake colossus keys tomorrow? its actually really fun in aoe

[acoustic yoke]

pretty sure in DF the only fury build i did in + was the s2 one with onslaught

[thorny peak]

so how are yall doing tonight? get anything good in them vaults?

[mossy fox]

yeah @gilded pawn corrected me, i just failed to read

[mossy fox]

yes ill give it a few tries

[summer quail]

ah, the only season where we played exclusively AM

season 4 isn't real btw

[acoustic yoke]

season 4 was the only season where i didn't even get bare minimum of KSH

[junior gale]

outside of ravager exe still feels like complete shit

[mossy fox]

yeah looking forward to that...

[junior gale]

lots of charge weaving

[acoustic yoke]

wth is charge weaving?

is it when you go out and charge for rage?

[mossy fox]

at the very least it'd be without massacre so only need to suffer with col exe for the last 20%

[junior gale]

inbetween your autos yes

[acoustic yoke]

yeah i think i'll miss out on that one ngl

[junior gale]

its not that bad unless the boss has an annoying hitbox

[summer quail]

charge weaving is fine if it's once in a while, if you have to do it alot it's aids imo

[oak crest]

how far behind is AM for mountain thane?

[last pier]

Anything new cooked up for m+ since this morning and the lincc/crit special build?

[feral ivy]

can unhinged proc if i press odyn? or do i stil have to press rampage

[upbeat plume]

er

[frozen marten]

Is there a new stat prio? Wowhead still says Mastery>Haste>Crit>Vers but Crit seems to be scaling higher for me. Anyone having the same experience?

[summer quail]

huh? unhinged is bladestorm/ravager

[odd star]

stat prio is forbidden topic

[upbeat plume]

stat prios are only relevent to the individual gear sets being simmed, they change literally all the tiem

depending on your own gear

[odd star]

sim the gear in your bag and play the biggest dps

[edgy widget]

crit does pick up as you start hitting diminishing returns

or rather, the others start dropping so crit gets relatively better

[dusty cove]

So does arms still get the 10% execute then? Or is it 7% for both?

[edgy widget]

but everyone's stats are different, so that's why we use sims

[edgy widget]

it's #updates-midnight

[atomic pelican]

Do we prio BT on cd in AM Thane

[upbeat plume]

I dont think theres gonna be much change there as rb/cb give the stacking crit buff to bt/bb

[oblique trail]

@mossy fox Think somethings kinda funky with your Slayer ST sim you did in the vid

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3TTwVD8qi8F5ynBepi9u2D tried comparing it with Warbreaker and it was half of what the loss is for you
(tried doing multiple sims without the APL but just swap between Nightly and Latest, there's a 50k~ dps difference doing this)

[warm crag]

i think you will pick your bis!

[feral ivy]

yea im trying to figure out if "reap the storm" can proc off unhinged

[summer quail]

oh yeah it can

[feral ivy]

to proc unhinged do i still have to press rampage or nah dont worry about it?

[oblique trail]

Though I did use Latest, and a customised APL (it shouldn't be too different though from the live APL you might've used in Nightly)

[summer quail]

unhinged and reap has nothing to do with rampage

[feral ivy]

mm i might thinking something else ill check once i get home but im thinking of something