fury

[static rock]

...do ya'll not play slayer in raid?

[ornate gust]

did they nerfed us????????????????????????????

[torpid sand]

#fury

[meager anchor]

whats a slayer, i play as Thor as god intended

[spark stone]

proffesionalism from blizz at it finest

[lofty delta]

It's execute, we should fuckin want to press it man

[queen linden]

I giggle when I see you

[hasty tide]

They can't not nerf us even when they buff us

[silver linden]

should you only press execute at 3 stacks for slayer?

[gaunt moat]

Made me laugh at least

[limber oar]

any talent changes to fury cause of this patch btw?

[lofty delta]

Not just go "whatever, we don't press anyway hurhur"

[rigid kestrel]

HAHAHHAHA hillarious

[plush maple]

My based man

[edgy widget]

no

[limber oar]

ty!

[edgy widget]

no rotational ones either, it's just a buff

[winter shoal]

Archi is raidbots chalked rn bc I'm simming 800k rn and I was simming like 1.3m before

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fsrVqbLom4T6ZZG6cjymwF

[lyric ether]

Nice, so really, just different places to use them

[meager anchor]

im going to meme blizzard not buffing execcute as much as they should cause they dont know how to make it a button to press even if they buffed it 100%

[hasty tide]

Thank God, I'm already learning enhance on the side. Can't be trying to relearn warrior too

[rocky thistle]

623 shard blizz please bless me with wild hammer or arakara ballsack

[lapis shadow]

In Rashanan do we hold CDs until adds come as fury warrior?

[tulip swallow]

If you start the fight with sudden death desynced you should just send it when you get it

[edgy widget]

well I have no idea what custom apl you're using, so that's probably it

[winter shoal]

Yeah I just saw that oopsies

[hasty tide]

I wonder how much execute would need to get buffed to be worth using as fury?

[gaunt moat]

70%

[queen linden]

At least 300%

[night relic]

If u dont want grey parses yeah

[gaunt moat]

I got that number out of my ass

[molten wing]

Arms boys were happy for like 30 mins

[lofty delta]

Just double it man xD make it a good ability again

[obtuse palm]

As Thane M+ should we prioritize both BB and BT now?

[hasty tide]

Couple math majors in here i see

[next latch]

Should I pick shard? I have a champion mandate and sacbrood. Was considering boots bc I have crit haste boots pls help

[molten wing]

until they saw MS was not buffed by 30%

[fading sky]

U would need to nerf rb // bt // ramp interaction

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twitter-monkey-sad-depressed-bored-gif-14632661802414689947

[onyx spire]

easiest shard pick ive ever seen

[tulip swallow]

Execute balanced around jug but you have to int your aoe for jug

[queen linden]

Boots drop off a boss that's easily pluggable on mythic. Take the shard.

[real ridge]

Thane still better for m+?

[lapis shadow]

Dumb question inc; All cds or just like holding odyns + bladestorm?

[burnt cape]

more warrior nerfs pls

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-omg-gif-15232931434758505236

[night relic]

Crit put out a decent vid on rasha cds

[next latch]

Thanks Khoma and Leprosy!

[night relic]

Normally start with odyn

[queen linden]

[meager anchor]

yes

[night relic]

Then pop everything on adds

[ornate gust]

Good game Blizzard

[lapis shadow]

Thank you :)

[shut onyx]

[kind hill]

We going with AM as thane?

[shut onyx]

they just wanted to nerf us and didn't know how to pull it

[obtuse palm]

I still sim much higher Thane RA

[winged sail]

at what we are stuck MT RA?

[granite fable]

same

[meager anchor]

AM is prob good if your tank pulls around it but gl with that

[wanton mirage]

Isnt the point of AM is not giving a fk about Tank pulls

[torpid sand]

RA still

[fading sky]

Both?

[molten spire]

More warrior nerfs

[fading sky]

But with am take haste buff not dmg buff

[spare steppe]

If you nerf the buff it’s still a buff

[fading sky]

No

Not when its buffing a past nerf

[left tapir]

wtf is this blizzard dude

[proud portal]

Warrior wasn't nerfed enough. Nerf Warrior again

😠

[left tapir]

they need to nerf us again

[harsh violet]

i know you have 2 brain cells b/c warrior, but if number go up then buff, less number go up still buff

[fading sky]

Well is it though?

[granite fable]

yes?

[fading sky]

Or is it a deletion of prior nerfs

That is the q

[tranquil ridge]

so a buff

[polar roost]

https://tenor.com/view/cupcakeplsno-gif-6390178062033116258

[granite fable]

still works out to a buff vs last week

[proud portal]

#updates-midnight message
Is this live or did it get replaced with a execute buff?

[fading sky]

But a nerf vs 10 weeks ago

😅

[granite fable]

yes, thats not wrong

idt we are getting back to 10 weeks ago tho haha

[fading sky]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-gif-20451700

[sullen dove]

They actually just fed into the meme

There is 0 chance in hell 3% execute means anything on any content

Even for arms

Joke developers just wanted to do one final fuck you

surely this means it’s over tho

[frail trout]

I'm actually glad this was posted because now people will think warrior is getting rightly less buffed but it's actually a total bait article

[ornate gust]

i don't understand that! i lost the track with this class!

[unreal onyx]

surely

[kind hill]

Anyone simmed gathering clouds?

[frail trout]

It's a real execute change for arms but fury already didn't care much about execute

[meager anchor]

and even then its still 5% better then yesterday

[proud portal]

Yeah

[proud portal]

@edgy widget did this buff from previous one is live or something or it's just execute?

[meager anchor]

and 7 for arms

[lament lagoon]

Hello, have we chanhgd specs and/or rotation/prio after today

[unborn yoke]

Nope

[meager anchor]

unlikely a spec change regardless

[clever escarp]

live tomorrow

[lament lagoon]

RA Thane for m+, Slayer foor raid?

[granite fable]

yea

execute change is a bit comical

[arctic raft]

I like how you took the time to screenshot this rather than just link to it directly lol

[young swan]

AM thane for m+ is a very real option

[molten spire]

number went down so nerf

[lament lagoon]

true it was last week as well, but mostly preference?

[young swan]

prob

[molten spire]

Does anyone have the talents for AM thane with no OF?

[granite fable]

yea, i just find RA easier for now

[molten spire]

Wanted to give it a spin

[granite fable]

think critcake has a build for it, one sec

[lament lagoon]

^

[granite fable]

i still prefer RA thane for m+ though

[sick jungle]

wait a fucking minute

so blizz nerfed the buff before it even happened?

[quiet geyser]

It barely affects fury regardless

[full bison]

not frist time it happened

[young swan]

it was never a 10% buff for us

so

[kind hill]

He gave up on the spear?

[full bison]

happened to mages before the anni patch

[meager anchor]

spear sucks

[modest condor]

holy shit fury buffed by 8.39% instead of 8.4% we're literally in the gutter

[kind hill]

100%

[young swan]

definitely doesnt

[meager anchor]

i hate it

[sudden tusk]

reap just did 8.5%

in my key

[young swan]

yeah

[sudden tusk]

how was belly vualt

[molten spire]

thanks dear

[young swan]

are you still standing in it even though you dont have to anymore

[young swan]

spymasters + bis ring

took spymasters

[meager anchor]

wait really?

[young swan]

actual giga vault

[south kayak]

AM?

[sudden tusk]

ra

[young swan]

should read tooltips more often

havent had to stand in it for ages now

[vast sluice]

can link your build brotha

[lament lagoon]

2 belts, 1 cloak, and the exact pants i got last week

[ripe goblet]

yeah u just have to actually hit the pack

[lament lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/burying-dying-dead-grave-gif-17189345

[ripe goblet]

and in some big pulls u wont hit all targets cause the circle is deceptively small

[meager anchor]

nice bis belt atleast

[sick jungle]

oh, i don't care about how much it buffs or nerfs

[young swan]

thats not hard if you have eyes and a functioning fine motor system

[sick jungle]

i just find blizz funny

[lament lagoon]

Woner if the neck from silk is worth, prob not

gna sim

[sick jungle]

i'm happy fury got buffed

[young swan]

u have like 4 bis items here

what in the fuck

[sick jungle]

i just wish blizz could drop a patch and it be correct on the first go around lol

[quiet geyser]

I mean, we're in the same boat there. Buffs are buffs, im thankful, but i really wish rampage and execute got more love instead of bt/bb

[lament lagoon]

pants and belt?

neck is Heroic :c

[odd star]

nooo lets all collectively drop OF

[sudden tusk]

if titans torment didnt exist i would

[crystal musk]

OF feels good to press ):

[odd star]

If it's strong as it was before yeah

[young swan]

i took a socket this

week

just like last week

[hallow moth]

So it's over?

[odd star]

but i still prefer our strength to be put in other buttons than OF

[sick jungle]

imagine we actually prioritized pressing execute

[hardy cargo]

played this is a NW earlier, I need to try to get into another with a similar route to see compared to dropping OF+am but I think its a real consideration

though I did do very good overall dammy

[odd star]

This much build choice is making me anxious

Theorycrafters need to publish The One Build® soon.

And it better be an RA build

[young swan]

just play RA

there will never be a "one build to rule them all"

because there are even talents per dungeon that are better than others

[odd star]

I know choice is good. But that nagging feeling of "is this the best build I could be playing" is too much choice sometimes

[quiet geyser]

The way marked for execution works, I'm purely assuming the idea is blizz doesnt want slayer to prio execute, and only use it with 3 stacks. Just seems ass backwards from how the spec sounds lol

[young swan]

just dont worry about it thn

[vague copper]

Whats the execute "nerf" about? 😛

[young swan]

bad patch notes

not a nerf

[past pivot]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[odd star]

ok i'll talk to my therapist about it next week.

[dim path]

what spec do you open your vault on (or what is it based from)

[young swan]

great idea

[hardy cargo]

arms loot spec

[young swan]

open as arms

[hardy cargo]

unless u want tank stuff

[young swan]

loot spec

[dim path]

ty!

[past pivot]

Always be in Arms loot spec

[molten spire]

AM is so fun. I love screaming mobs to death

[harsh violet]

why arms?

[odd star]

so we dont get 1 handers

[harsh violet]

ahh

[molten spire]

One day SMF is gonna be good again

[iron portal]

no

[young swan]

no it wont

[full bison]

smf fury is just outlaw rogue

[past pivot]

Again? Lmao

[odd star]

Don't you dare

[molten spire]

fair

[odd star]

Outlaw is giga unfun.

[robust widget]

The only day SMF is gonna be good again is when they let us tmog onehanders

[odd star]

Fury is gigafun

[manic pelican]

I wonder if there will be any build changes. I feel like it’s just AM vs RA is all. Am I missing something?

[past pivot]

It was never good so don't what this "Again" is about

[torpid sand]

Thane vs Slayer!

[ornate gust]

With no utilities and immunity 🌝

[young swan]

Thane vs slayer in m+, RA vs AM in m+, OF vs VC in m+

[odd star]

seems like all combos of AM/RA/Thane/Slayer are viable

[young swan]

but other than that theres nothing new

[odd star]

we have way too much choice rn.

[young swan]

just more of the same choices

[odd star]

[young swan]

oh no

3 whole choices

[manic pelican]

Omg how will we ever choose

Haha

[young swan]

guess its more like 9 but not really, we technically already have "the build", its just RA slayer/thane with OF

[ornate gust]

It depends on the fight situation

[odd star]

AM Slayer with OF
AM Slayer with VC
RA Slayer with OF
RA Slayer with VC
AM thane with VC
RA thane with OF
RA Thane with VC

[full bison]

am slayer isn't reall a thing

[past pivot]

Viable, yes. Optimal, we shall see which 2 win out

[full bison]

except for broodtwister

[young swan]

AM slayer is very fake except for brood

[full bison]

VC is really only a thing with AM thane

[opaque falcon]

What’s VC again

[full bison]

vicious contempt

[odd star]

bt 35% health damage amp

[iron portal]

[young swan]

bt execute talent

[hardy cargo]

im playing am slayer rn it feels fine

[iron portal]

We gonna get nerfed again Madox stop

[kind hill]

Wtf

[nimble ermine]

how would you know about AM slayer

[young swan]

bad

bad

bad

bad

bad

bad

stop

[nimble ermine]

HAHA

[hardy cargo]

🧢

[full bison]

if youve played am slayer on brood you know how it feels

[young swan]

AM slayer was good on beta when BS cleaved unhinged

but now its just bad

[nimble ermine]

that one arakara half run really got to you

[full bison]

its only good in that one instance since everything lines up at 45 sec (avatar every other)

[young swan]

just conceptually I think its bad

cause it doesnt really gain you anything

[full bison]

if you get timings any other way (like packs pulled a different times) am slayer is gonna be desync'd way to much

[oblique trail]

AM Slayer does not sound good, nor really plays that great either

[young swan]

either u disregard the CDR on BS, in which case why run AM

[oblique trail]

But it doesn't particularly perform bad

At least from my personal experience

[young swan]

or you send BS raw with nothing behind it

[inner harbor]

anyone did some runs ? how is it looking so far for us EU players

[young swan]

which is bad

[sullen dove]

Ixkreten the unbreedable

[kind hill]

Am slayer gets the cds all messed up

[charred panther]

Saw a few solid slayer m+ logs, reap buff looks nice and bb ofc

[sullen dove]

Am thane only sounds good if you run berserkers torment

[charred panther]

RA

[sullen dove]

Having some avatar and reck behind every ravager just sending a ravager with some reck by itself for no reason why exist

Ravager poop cd

[sullen dove]

Ergo, am thane vc only

If odyn thane go ra or die

this is my decree

[odd star]

good decree

[hardy cargo]

decree dn

[sullen dove]

But also ra thane bad cause have to rampage and crushing blow between every unhinged

Ergo only play thane am vc

bench odyns

[thin bramble]

Fury or Arms better now?

[sullen dove]

yep cocka

[odd star]

arms is very untanky

[thin bramble]

oof, still?

that sucks

[young swan]

in what context

[odd star]

or maybe fury just too tanky

[proud leaf]

just ignore pain more forehead

[odd star]

but the difference is notcieable for me

[thin bramble]

pve

[young swan]

ok

what context

[median token]

delves 6

[hard widget]

Which specs makes u look the coolest for ur friends

[odd star]

that would be Prot

[young swan]

colo arms

by far the coolest

[oblique trail]

So not warrior 👍

[hard widget]

MAGE

AIGHT

[odd star]

colo arms is kinda cool truth be told..

[hard widget]

Logging out right now

[feral ivy]

If they made thunderfury 2h not 1h it would be PERFECT for us

[young swan]

if it wasnt clear, there are different aspects of pve which each fury and arms perform better than the other in

[real thistle]

Hey 👋, does anyone know if the builds for MT are updated in wowhead?

[storm birch]

did they update the CoT timer?

I never had a 12 CoT in time but now i do

😮

[young swan]

no builds changed

[storm rune]

TF is the most 2handed 1 hander that ever did hand

[median token]

+90s every dg

[shell wigeon]

They made the 90sec timer change retroactive

[thin bramble]

Sorry about that, In general m+ and raid

[feral ivy]

My thoughts on why ppl got I.o is because they updated the affix to extra 90 sec so ALL keys including previous keys got timed if it was in that 90 seconds

[real thistle]

@young swan ty, are there rotation changes?

[storm birch]

oh that's so lit

[young swan]

fury in general for m+, fury for cleave fights, arms for ST

[storm birch]

lets gooooo

[robust widget]

do we go 2/2 VC or 1/2 VC and berserks torment without OF?

[young swan]

i prefer 2/2 VC

[thin bramble]

ty

[young swan]

@oblique trail is it BT on CD or nah

[oblique trail]

Shrug, I sorta did that more or less anyway

[young swan]

yeah just slam BT on cd

[real thistle]

Ok ok ty

[slow haven]

we taking out OF for VC now?

[young swan]

a lot of people have been for Thane specifically

I dont think its worth for slayer

[oblique trail]

Don't think there's been any rotational changes, nor anyone that has actively looked into them rn either

[young swan]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[slow haven]

gotcha

[young swan]

last I heard the only thing changing is the bloodcraze condition

[tranquil ridge]

doing BT > crushing blow on thane just gives higher chances for more thunderblasts

[flat river]

told u

last minute changes

[manic dragon]

just did my first m+ of the day, didn't really care for it lol, did thane AM, dps sucked still

[young swan]

yeah but not really right cause they were just correcting mistakes

[storm birch]

I'm about to try this 12 GB see how it feels

[tranquil ridge]

why AM? RA still better for m+

[young swan]

they werent "changes" they just fucked up in game coefficients and patch notes

[manic dragon]

bloodthirst trucks

[flat river]

they forgot to remove the word buff though

so was it really a mistake?

🤔

[young swan]

?

yes

[frail tinsel]

what condition?

[wicked glade]

Fury most swag wearing dual pole arms or dual 2hand katanas way too swaggy

[young swan]

more frequent CD's lends itself well to thanes already extremely consistent damage profile

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1298369463153987614/kO1CS.gif

[young swan]

dw about it, doesnt exist anymore

[odd star]

am entered the fray of possible thane builds when BT and RB were massively buffed

[thorn smelt]

Do you guys full send bladestorm everytime or wait for avatar, reck

[flat river]

always send BS

unless

like 5 second cd between them

then save

[winter shoal]

Wait for ava if it'll come up within 9s according to sim

Or save for reck specifically on brood with AM

So you reck BS every add set

[odd star]

if in raid environment and pack of adds gonna spawn and i wont have BS back when they spawn im saving that bitch

[winter shoal]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/profiles/TWW1/TWW1_Warrior_Fury.simc#L148C36-L148C79

[modest condor]

i really dont think many people will understand what they're looking at if you just link the apl to them

[manic dragon]

you guys playing vicious contempt with RA? and dropping odyns fury or playing normal build? with vicioius and am I was doing tons of blood thirst damage, but sucked overall regarldess

[wicked glade]

Bold to assume i understand it, im warrior brained i press button and nothing else

[opaque cypress]

why would they lower buff to execute that's so weird

[winter shoal]

You're probably right, but it's not THAT hard to intepret, and a lot of people ask rotation questions that are easily answered on their own if they know how to pull up and read the APL themselves

[oblique trail]

Reading the APL can be quite overwhelming at first

Especially if you have no idea what the different syntax means

[winter shoal]

VC vs OF is very close in sims for me, I'll be playing OF bc I like it more

[pallid tundra]

IS there any sims for dracthyr as race for fury yet

[radiant plank]

reading arms apl is bigsmile
reading ww apl horror

[oblique trail]

Yes it's middle of the pack, in the upper half

[manic dragon]

sims puts it ahead for me, but in practice dunno if its that great

[odd star]

i only tried VC for anger management builds

[oblique trail]

Simwise around dwarf etc atm

[pallid tundra]

Gotcha, im already night elf, i think ill stay nelf in that case

[manic dragon]

ok i'm going back to normal RA M+ build see if it feels better

[zenith sonnet]

do we always open vault as arms or does it matter anymore and just open as fury?

[oblique trail]

Always open/loot as Arms

[odd star]

normal RA is thane or slayer?

both seem viable

[manic dragon]

doing thane

[oblique trail]

Unless you for some reason want a 1hander for prot

[odd star]

i might fuck with RA slayer in m+

[thorn smelt]

Anyone have dracthyr sims for warrior? Are they bottom bitch or its ok racial wise

[odd star]

all boss damage up in that shit

[zenith sonnet]

ty

[winter shoal]

Arms APL looks like a toddler wrote it ong, I love it. No conditions, just vibes

[mellow crow]

any big changes w/ AM vs RA with todays patch? or all mostly same as before just more dmg now. I know archi originally posted #'s with APL may change, but haven't seen any updates to the APL itself yet

[oblique trail]

There's no real change no

[limber lark]

so, are there many rotational / talent changes with these new buffs?

[winter shoal]

Basically same, you probably don't skip BB anymore if you were doing that before

#fury message

[mellow crow]

ez

[winter shoal]

Wait I did that wrong

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[oblique trail]

Play the same way you did before and you'll be fine 👍

[graceful ruin]

i can't wait until the rest of the buffs get reverted and we get nerfed by 10% overall instead

[harsh violet]

OF = ?

[mellow crow]

I ran some sims switching around APL for holding BB at start of tier and it was like 500 dps difference lmao

[oblique trail]

Odyn's Fury

[harsh violet]

VC = ?

[sonic cedar]

How we feeling with the buffs?

[oblique trail]

Vicious Contempt

[rough coral]

sorry what is BB again?

[winter shoal]

bloodbath

[limber lark]

clicking this but it isnt working

[rough coral]

thnx ❤️

do we skip bloodthirst?

[thorn smelt]

Doesnt work for me either

[frail tinsel]

never

[winter shoal]

"Basically same, you probably don't skip BB anymore if you were doing that before"
It was literally the message after yours, I was trying to be cheeky but I bungled the joke a bit

[rough coral]

ok

[winter shoal]

?

You skip bloodthirst all the time

[limber lark]

ahh, ty

[winter shoal]

Bloodbath you don't

Bloodthirst you do

[frail tinsel]

true

[rough coral]

got you so only when it procs BB we use it

[coarse nest]

Damn offhand robbing us execute damage

[quaint forge]

Why are burritos in TX so mid compared to CA burritos?

[winter shoal]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-2

[odd star]

when was worth to skip bb? i was skipping bb on extreme rage capping situations lol

now we always bb for every ramp?

[mellow crow]

forever wishing the changes were enough to swap AM all content

[rough coral]

thank you ❤️

[winter shoal]

It used to be if you were high on rage, then it was if you were high on bloodcraze stacks, now it's probably just blindly ramp > CB > BB always

[thorn smelt]

Anyone know if off hand ilvl increase our damage? Debating if i should craft another 636 off hand

[winter shoal]

I think that's a wee bit out of date, but it'll get you in the right direction for sure. Check back in a day or two and it'll be updated

[rough coral]

ok got you

[winter shoal]

@rough coral note that's only for slayer single target, things change for thane/aoe but the same rotation page on the wowhead guide will cover that

[coarse nest]

It will just not as much as main hand

[rough coral]

ill go take a look

[summer crater]

4% more ST DPS on my arms now compared to fury

[proper quest]

No one cares about ST just zugzug in keys

Has anyone tested thane AM builds?

[coarse nest]

[quaint forge]

Same AM builds as last week for the most part.

[winter shoal]

crit has, check his yt and stream vods

[thorn smelt]

Anyone got dracthyr racial sims? Bloodmallet doesnt have dracthyr. Dont know if i should racial swap from tauren

[storm rune]

AM builds went online last week, but frankly fuck AM, I want those juicy BBs

[quaint forge]

Is doing pretty well.

[proper quest]

Swag, I hate OF so this looks fun af

[frail tinsel]

scroll up, supposedly simming mid-pack

[storm rune]

#fury message

[honest karma]

I hope slayer won’t outperform thane in m+ any time soon. I’m a CLAPPA now

[opaque cypress]

I've seen guy on reddit complaining his dps went down after going dracthyr

on warrior

[oblique trail]

Swapping race is for sure why your DPS goes to shit 👍

[coarse nest]

To much time doing cc

[heavy dock]

does anyone know what causes this bug

[graceful ruin]

some people are saying there is a bug with dracthyr lol

not sure how legit it is but

[odd star]

big st to carry bad pugs in bossfights always has a place

[oblique trail]

There is one yes

[pallid tundra]

oh hell naw. I'd be mechagnome 100% if they werent so ugly, i dont want to depend on toys

[oblique trail]

Visage keeps healing in combat (not for all people)

Despite stating it's only outside

[graceful ruin]

i meant with the dmg lol

[oblique trail]

oh

I have no idea what that bug would be

I'm doing similar damage as both pre and post race swap

[graceful ruin]

btw are sims updated?

[oblique trail]

Yes

[odd star]

mechagnome is goated. the shield racial is not bad at all

[fossil hatch]

What would even be bugged? It gives mastery only no?

[pallid tundra]

racials are goated for sure, but they have the debuff of being giga uggo

[honest karma]

Just never play in bad pugs

[fossil hatch]

I switched yesterday for queen

[oblique trail]

It only gives Mastery yes

[odd star]

im used to their "quirky" looks...

[teal badge]

Any thoughts, friends?
Have the NW 2h 639 + Crafted Wep currently and can prob just catalyst myth shoulders this week.
Thinking belt but taking belt feels bad

[somber elk]

do we reck charge rampage with the am thane build?

[odd star]

i used to play in azralon, i was raised in bad premades...bad pugs are my lifeblood

[honest karma]

Lmao

[honest karma]

Delve chest for transmog

[visual rose]

Is there a cap for Mastery/Haste? Why does this bis list have crafted gear with vers/mastery instead of haste? https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/bis-gear

[jovial coral]

Cap for mastery is 20%

[meager anchor]

uhh

[visual rose]

uhhhhh dont think this is correct

[odd star]

i dunno, i just sim the gear i have in my bag. fury doesnt need to chase items too much since it has kinda balanced secondaries

[pseudo dawn]

Not correct

[young swan]

no caps (except crit @ 100%) just points at which getting more haste is worse than getting more vers or mastery

[visual rose]

Yeah this is sort of what i'm trying to figure out

[young swan]

just dont worry about it

sim ur dude

[odd star]

if you wanna make sure you craft with right 2ndaries you can just sim the combinations

[honest karma]

150% crit

[odd star]

but if you still have a lot of upgrades to make in your gear the right 2ndaries for the craft might change

i just craft and forget

i have crit haste cloak to make my arms forays more viable lol

[mellow crow]

any situation we're dropping OF in raid for VC? Not sure on M brood if the OF burst is even worth anymore with the target reductions

[honest karma]

Still rocking 619 bracers because I hate spending crests on that

[young swan]

silken court

[mellow crow]

ooo we are doing it on silken

just about to start silken prog so love to hear it

[sullen dove]

ok im gonna need a rash cape or an on use trinket

YEP

[hardy cargo]

with leech too

[sudden thicket]

with leech pog

[livid marsh]

hit the lotto

[hardy cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif

[sullen dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965371616269848578/1282715194476466227/powder_that_makes_you_say_holy.gif?ex=6722481e&is=6720f69e&hm=a3e4f3c8c63c3311ae816161d278d89a804be99a304ad1e894d2573fb21e317c&

finally second on use

i will be doing some heinous things on broodtwister

this week

we better kill or else

[hardy cargo]

I believe we kill this week too

and if we do I get my first mythic 4 box

[fringe vale]

warrior buff came with a nerf and a buff

https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750

[hardy cargo]

what nerf

[copper quest]

is there a recommended way to sim M+ for fury?

[fringe vale]

7% isntead of 10 exec

[meager anchor]

lol fury "nerf"

tell me you dont know fury

[hardy cargo]

no its just them fixing patch notes not a nerf

[shell bison]

hi, is there a link with builds to use in different contents with the new patch? thanks

[sullen dove]

wait dude i sim 1.45m now?

theres no way

[fringe vale]

i know lol

[sullen dove]

buffs that good

thats like

[hardy cargo]

ya shits like 100k st

[sullen dove]

what it originially was on st

[fringe vale]

how long till next nerf?

[sullen dove]

when the xpac launched

with no nerfs

[sour abyss]

Spiteful 3% for a button I will hit maybe 10 times during a fight

[sullen dove]

peak was like 1.49 or something

[kind hill]

How much before?

[sullen dove]

idk like 1.35ish

[fringe vale]

oh shit true vaults

i forgor

[sullen dove]

626>639 gloves better ofc but also like i just get gloves from raid

surely

[last sparrow]

whats the weakaura that shows keys applied for vs invited too

[livid marsh]

trinkets from dungeon vaults are overall harder to get

[fringe vale]

this

[odd star]

im 616 ilvl and simmed 1.28m slayer st build

fury exists.

[zenith sonnet]

I haven't really looked into it in-depth but any bugs into simming and it telling me to use all same gem with diamond? I guess it just outparses what the combo buff off diamond does?

[fringe vale]

cant wait to test thane

in keys to se the diff

[proud leaf]

pretty sure it's called "fury warrior simulator"

[livid marsh]

still have to wait for tomorrow

[plush raven]

https://wago.io/Lxw1NnkhN

[sullen dove]

alt warrior got myth mainhand before main...

[carmine moth]

Would you take Mast delve trinket or tier shoulders?

[sly bobcat]

how long till we're nerfed again? we slap

[calm quartz]

holy that BB and LS damamge

damage even

[tame iron]

which is meta with the reset changes, RA or AM?

[oak crest]

how bad is it to take AM in keys?

[sly bobcat]

whichever ur heart desires

[meager void]

anyone got a Thane AM m+ log I can peak?>

[harsh dew]

did builds get updated to include what spec changes came with buffs? Or we still using same stuff from last week?

[oak crest]

^^

[odd star]

builds not updated yet but they'll be I imagine. i think arch must be furiously compiling info to update the builds

bless his heart

[oblique trail]

Can already tell you now there's basically no differences to talent setups nor rotational differences between last week and now

[heavy flax]

i took the portal to stormwind in the anniversary place and got sent to the middle of the ocean and died while tabbed out lmao. unless something else happened but idk

[oblique lynx]

Same shit happened to me, I just logged out.

[visual rose]

Yesterday I was mining near stonevault, fell through the wall, died, and ended up at the Crossroads graveyard

[honest karma]

That’s a skill issue

[heavy flax]

can't even reach my body actually due to fatigue. rip 1.5k gold

[brittle crow]

crazy how they revert some our buffs before they even go live

fury dead again

gg

[heavy flax]

LOL wtf

[visual rose]

Can never escape the barrens no matter how hard I try

[brittle crow]

crossroads (the barrens)?

[visual rose]

Yes

[brittle crow]

lmao wtf

[oblique trail]

Yeah I'm gonna lose so much sleep over the fact that Fury's Execute (does no damage anyway except in full ST) didn't get buffed as much!!

[brittle crow]

already planning on making a 2nd dk just to cope

my current dk is an orc, thinking abt making the 2nd one a highmountain

what ur thoughts

[odd star]

but Am thane is not listed in wowhead still

[visual rose]

What happened here?

[brittle crow]

fury dead

again

[storm birch]

I'm spamming my applications to keys with "fury got big buffs WOOO"

got an invite to a 13 🥲

[odd star]

nice strat

[visual rose]

but I was so high on hopium after the buff announcement

[south kayak]

[oblique trail]

Shrug, there's only so many different builds you can really add to a guide before it becomes confusing. The only reasonable difference though between the wowhead Thane build and AM version, is you change RA to AM

[frail trout]

Even regular bloodthirst has a higher average cast damage than CB in that breakdown, wtf

[brittle crow]

meanwhile enhancement and resto shaman guides:

[oblique trail]

Unless you want every single iteration of AM/RA Thane and Slayer added to the guide with multiple notes, when they're all competitive but also fairly close to eachother, which is just unreasonable

[frail trout]

Or is that not showing both weapon hits?

[odd star]

meanwhile fdk and uhdk guides:

but makes sense @oblique trail thanks for clarifying

[brittle crow]

should i keep my maghar dk or make a highmountain dk

i want the highmountain charge

[odd star]

im biased towards highmountain

[brittle crow]

how do u cope with not getting cool boot transmogs tho

thats whats holding me up

[odd star]

I play mechagnome so its pretty easy to cope with only losing boots

[brittle crow]

OOF

[edgy widget]

The only difference between AM Thane and RA Thane is... taking AM
And AM is worse than RA so

[brittle crow]

archi!!

decide for me

[odd star]

noted boss

[edgy widget]

pretty sure that is noted in the guides somewhere too, it's also in #1273899855852339200

[odd star]

@edgy widget i have ur blessing to play the same Slayer RA build this patch then

[frail trout]

Do you play frenzied enrage in all AM builds or nah?

[odd star]

oops, been a while since i clicked there, i usually use wowhead as bible

[gilded flicker]

I will try am slayer on this build, already did AM and RÃ thane

[edgy widget]

• Slayer RA is best for raid (except, in some cases, for M Broodtwister)
• Thane RA is best for M+
• Thane AM is acceptable for M+ (arguably Silken Court, though the build is a lil different)
• Slayer RA is a little less but still acceptable for M+
• Slayer AM is terrible everywhere except M Broodtwister

[brittle crow]

wait RA is still best

[gilded flicker]

Jesus, it is terrible ahahaha

[brittle crow]

depressing!

[visual rose]

what do RA and AM stand for I can't figure it out lol

[arctic raft]

need to pin this lol

[edgy widget]

it's already in all the guides lol

[hardy cargo]

reckless abandon, anger management

[odd star]

reckless abandon anger managemtn

[visual rose]

ty

[arctic raft]

fair

[honest karma]

CLAPPA

[sudden thicket]

do you still play AM Slayer for brood

[molten wing]

probably

actually yeah

you really need to align the cds there

[odd star]

All the builds take OF except ST builds and Thane AM, correct?

[molten wing]

if you are on add duty which most likely you are as a warrior

[edgy oasis]

Slayer AM was good for brood??

[hardy cargo]

slayer am is mad fun imo, I think its definitely worse, but really hard to tell in key setting bc so many variables

[frail trout]

Brood is a special case but yes

[proud leaf]

+8 Thane AM w/VC

[nimble ibex]

am is worst?

[lofty delta]

+8

[edgy oasis]

Yes.

[sudden thicket]

yeah you get reck & bs on every egg

[hardy cargo]

had 2 slayer NW's one RA the other AM in the RA key we pulled like chads, but in the am key i had better buffs from grp(monk,sham) but we pulled like weenie hut jrs, very similar overall

[cold fable]

Thanks 😊

[nimble ibex]

im hella confused now dosent it sim higher?

[restive peak]

AM Thane has produced the best results for me in higher keys but I’m gonna do more RA thane testing tonight

[brittle crow]

linc

maghar or highmountain DK

[edgy widget]

Thane can run Zerker's Torment, taking VC instead of OF; split opinions on it

• OF gives you instant burst and is pretty hard to fuck up since Enrage is guaranteed
• VC gives you more prio damage, longer CDs, and one less button to press, but it also encourages sniping lower health mobs and doesn't work against bosses that end before 35%

[odd star]

thanks

[restive peak]

What kinda garbage options are these bro

[acoustic yoke]

maghar

[brittle crow]

what do u propose instead huh funny man

[acoustic yoke]

garrosh roleplay ez

[brittle crow]

thats my warrior

i already do this on my warrior

[acoustic yoke]

then what's this for?

[honest karma]

Belf female. Always

[brittle crow]

u literally replied to the question

DK

[summer quail]

goblin

[brittle crow]

convincing choice

[acoustic yoke]

oh then you go zandalari ofc

[restive peak]

Nightelf for aesthetic, dwarf for performance baby

[brittle crow]

damn...

[nimble ermine]

goblin for fart jump

[brittle crow]

i knew the yellow names were bad but

thats next level

zzz

[acoustic yoke]

hey

[median remnant]

any changes to the priority? is BT higher?

[acoustic yoke]

i like ny nelf dk

i like the weapon stance

[frail trout]

There's some funny business if you use the dracthyr glide to cancel out the wrest pull on ansurek

[restive peak]

I am also a female character hater bro I don’t fit the standard mold

[frail trout]

If your timing is too good it keeps your wrest momentum but in the direction you glided instead

[acoustic yoke]

i only use female chars

[near wing]

How far behind do we think MT is vs Slayer in raid? Really struggle with Slayer because I hit whirlwind too much and it does shit damage. Feel more comfortable with Thane. Is it material difference?

[acoustic yoke]

models are generally better

[odd star]

problem with thane in raid is less st and the adds die fast in most encounters

[sudden thicket]

it did this on Sark as well, when the first knock happens

[odd star]

so you're doing st a lot of time

[livid marsh]

why are you hitting ww in the first place??

[storm rune]

I'm like 50/50, I'd take a tauren male, belf I'm pretty sure are unisex, but male orcs/trolls need to work on their posture before I'd ever consider rolling one

[restive peak]

If you’re not playing at a level where you already know the whys, it likely isn’t enough of a diff to stress bro. Play what you like

[odd star]

since adds die fast you want burst too

[restive peak]

I recleared as thane for fun last week

[near wing]

I like that linc

[restive peak]

I don’t think anyone is or isn’t killing a boss due to their warr being thane vs slayer at this point of gear/the buff etc

These recent changes made everything super close and competitive, which is good

[half cargo]

The flip side to that argument is people not at the highest of end sometimes need every bit of help they can get

[calm quartz]

Wait, you're right lmao

[half cargo]

I've seen people miss a CE kill by a literal 0.1%

[restive peak]

Yeah but if you enjoy thane and hate slayer, you probably play thane better

[round cedar]

Anyone know for AM Thane if RB is prioed or is BT?

[near wing]

I just do more damage as thane, I actually haven’t been able to figure out why, just assuming it’s ww related

[acoustic yoke]

thunderslap claps

[slow haven]

BT>RB

[restive peak]

Yeah, in that aspect I’d play what you enjoy

And I prio BT and have had good results as AM thane, pretty sure Crit does as well

[minor vault]

for dk high mountain

[frail trout]

To be fair I just realized why that is probably happening, it's the bloodthirst proc that thane has

When it procs you end up casting some regular buffed BT's it isn't all BB

[restive peak]

You should be using those for BB if you’re RA

but for AM you just insta send them

[frail trout]

yeah I'm just piecing together how BT could be above CB in average damage per cast

[minor vault]

whats AM

[frail trout]

That's where I ended up

[restive peak]

Anger Management Poob

[minor vault]

thank you

[hardy cargo]

thane also buffs bt baseline by like 25 or 40%

30%**

[restive peak]

It’s kinda like the RB slayer problem, lots of amps and procs tied to each other

[frail trout]

Rampage also showed a higher damage per cast than CB though in that breakdown, by a lot

[hardy cargo]

thane also buffs ramp by the same amount

and tierset

[restive peak]

Ramp has been buffed a shit ton and our tier set buffs it, it’s a huge button

[frail trout]

Do you actually just skip CB if your high rage?

[restive peak]

As it should be

[frail trout]

As thane

[hardy cargo]

no

[frail trout]

Like about to cap

[minor vault]

whats CB?

[restive peak]

It literally makes no sense when ramp isn’t prio 1, and you always send everything

As RA

[inner zinc]

Crushing blow

[minor vault]

ty

[arctic raft]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZAjhZYMMzsBDzYMMDzMbbzMmZmFmZMzMMDb2mhZGDAAAEmxy2ALgJYGmAjthN

still the go-to for raid MT?

[inner zinc]

Is the gap between RA and AM big for M+?

I like RA but AM has been really fun

[frail trout]

Well you usually want to use up the procs before ramp especially with the BB buffs but rampage is so strong now I'm wondering if thane should simply skip CB if you are in a situation where your like capped or almost capped rage and CB is still up

Cuz losing potential rampages sounds pretty bad

Compared to losing CB as thane

I'm curious to see what the APL updates will show

[hardy cargo]

cb/rb is % crit increase on BT/BB and 20% ramp damage stacking

you odnt want to skip it

[pseudo dawn]

^^

[hardy cargo]

and if it resets itself

its extra bt/bb damage

[frail trout]

I guess the rage lost would only ever equal out to a partially lost rampage at best which the 20% buff per RB/CB cast makes up for

[gilded flicker]

with spear?

[ionic plaza]

yo bloodthirst thane is absulutley slapping

[frail trout]

I'm sure the difference is closer now though after the most recent rampage buff

[storm birch]

yeee

[slate mica]

is it just me or if u buy the mogs all on 1 toon

its not c oming up on th others

the t2

[sullen dove]

do you even take bloodborne if you drop odyns

20% roar dam pretty good ig

[storm rune]

of the same class?

[sullen dove]

but like my last key roar only 3.5% of my dmg

[slate mica]

i bought 4 mogs on my warrior so shaman , pally etc

when i log on those toons

the mogs are not availble in sets

[storm rune]

oh, I had this happen in mop remix

[sullen dove]

guess diff matters if its lots of big pulls or not

[storm rune]

They hotfixed it after a few weeks

[slate mica]

sigh

[smoky kelp]

Ovi'Nax's Mercurial Egg or Shadow-Binding ritual knife

[unique umbra]

is it worth playing AM now besides on Rash?

[hardy cargo]

itll affect cshb too which is abt the same so its hard, I think I keep it ur other choice is like 2/2 deft or 1/2 CT or something like that

[smoky kelp]

which is better (both same ilvl and hero trac)

[sullen dove]

.,...rash?

[unique umbra]

i mean brood

[sullen dove]

am thane yea good in keys

but am slayer not rly

[unique umbra]

oh you run AM with MT?

[sullen dove]

you can

less st more aoe

but eh

can kinda make up the st a bit dropping odyns going VC

berserkers torment

[onyx spire]

what's a good amount of mastery to aim for?

[cerulean badger]

5

[vivid tusk]

hello "#fury" is anybody having trouble picking up the weekly timewalking quest

[sullen dove]

[meager void]

you can pick it up once you get the correct amount of mastery

[vivid tusk]

oh..

[snow edge]

The only way to know is to sim yourself, but it'll most likely be Knife

[smoky kelp]

yeah I did, and Ovi'Nax's is a bit higher, but I heard that it's very annoying to use

[clever path]

A lot of people be dropping OF but it seems to stay better than VC (not by much tho)

[smoky kelp]

and that the sim uses it at an unreliable 30 stacks (even 20/10 sounds like a pain to maintain)

[fervent barn]

so whats likely the goto mythic build after today

[snow edge]

Tbh I wouldn't go with Ovi'Nax, but that's personal preference; like you said it can be a pain in the ass to use optimally

[unreal pagoda]

how is fury doing after the update?

[snow edge]

A static trinket like Knife / Sac + On-use like Shard / Mark is much easier

[smoky kelp]

yeahhh, that sounds reasonable, was thinking the same honestly

knife it is, cheers m8

[snow edge]

All good

[timid edge]

so NAboys, fury or arms after the update?

[normal yoke]

Whatever is more fun to you.

[narrow narwhal]

play what you like

[gilded flicker]

I feel like Powerful Enrage dont make me hit as hard as the talent suggests

but with RA, is the way to go, right ?

[hidden river]

Is there any new builds out?

[snow edge]

In what context? M+?

[sullen dove]

oh yeah

[next latch]

On the wowhead trinket tier list, shard is much lower than sacbrood and mandate, can anyone explain why

I can pick a 623 shard from vault, want to but don’t know why it’s listed lower than those two

[night relic]

cuz its worse than those two

wdym

its a great trinket

[next latch]

I just didn’t know if it was a better trinket for certain fights or certain content

I have brood and mandate so idk if I’d actually choose shard over those?

[fading bane]

mandate is ST only

you run shard over it on any fight with multiple targets

[odd star]

shard is good for bursting packs of adds and for keys

[next latch]

AHHH there it is. Idk why I didn’t think of that. Thank you guys appreciate it

[night relic]

shard + sac is just best baseline

yes transmitter is better

[plucky ice]

looks like fury needs another nerf

[odd star]

lets go

as thane too, nice

[snow edge]

Yuge BT damage

[winged sail]

still same opener?

for aoe

[hidden river]

yeah

[obtuse palm]

For Thane M+ is Gathering Cloud (30% more often Lightning Strike) better now?

[snow edge]

PE generally pairs better with RA since you're leaning into your burst windows (which PE benefits more)

[odd star]

dude i was blasting before ravager

wtf

[gilded flicker]

Guide says no...but i dunno

[odd star]

how troll is to go PE for Slayer Raid build

i really wanna pad those adds

[crude gate]

sim?

[snow edge]

If you're playing MT Slayer build then PE really isn't troll?

[obtuse palm]

Yeah I will, I was about to enter an M+ and it dawned on me, figured I'D ask, lol

[ornate sable]

Did the fury slayer AM talent tree change any today ? I won’t have time to learn new ones before tonight for raid

[odd star]

yeah they sim almost the same for me, but the listed builds usually have FE

[odd star]

dont think so

[arctic sinew]

Look at top logs, most ppl play PE in raid outside of sikran/nexus

[keen zephyr]

13kk overoll is this normal for a 10 key?( deteils)

[odd star]

i havent looked much into logs thanks for the tip

[silk glacier]

You guys think MT is still more viable than slayer after tomorrows patch ?

[past pivot]

Tomorrow? Wednesday patch?

[silk glacier]

im in EU - patch is live on wednesday here

[past pivot]

Thane for MT, Slayer for ST

[silk glacier]

aye, thx 🙂

[sullen dove]

nerf assass rogue

[viscid condor]

whats PE?

[sullen dove]

big BTers

powerful enrage

[molten wing]

what Archi said

[viscid condor]

ah

[silk glacier]

thx m8 🙂

[arctic raft]

thoughts on swapping to arms for kyveza/sikran?

[unique umbra]

Oh wow we use Slayer RA on all fights really?

[arctic raft]

or not needed anymore?

[lapis shadow]

@night relic

Thanks!

[unique umbra]

That makes 2 on use trinkets higher value?

[sullen dove]

always have

[night relic]

[sullen dove]

except brood

[unique umbra]

oh nvm was thinking AM

[unreal onyx]

what if

[unique umbra]

😮

[unreal onyx]

I used slayer RA on brood yesterday in prog

[chilly zodiac]

is this still the same builds on wowhead?

[unreal onyx]

and it shows

[molten wing]

yeah builds didn't change

[languid crown]

did blizzard forget how to spell? wasnt crushing blow supposed to get buffed?

[obtuse palm]

No

[summer crater]

No, they want to increase the strength of rampage and bath relative to blow

[livid marsh]

i still feel like rampage is to weak

[crude gate]

We got any rotation/priority changes now buffs are live?

[languid crown]

oh damn, i was dyslexia all along

[livid marsh]

i mean overall compared to your generators

[unreal onyx]

no

[summer quail]

no and thank fuck for that. cb/rb already too strong

[turbid bay]

Welp my vault looking fire

[languid crown]

but imagine if it was stronger 👀

[heavy dock]

no

am time

[summer quail]

i do not want it to be stronger

[smoky vale]

i want ramp bb to be rotation again

[summer quail]

I want bt to be prio over rb

[smoky vale]

[unreal onyx]

fuck AM in raid

that talent can go shrivel in a corner

RA in raid all day long

[summer quail]

agreed, RA for raid. AM for m+, that's the dream

[unreal onyx]

i'd 100000% rather have RA in both than AM in both

that's why DF S3 was goated

[smoky vale]

df3 🙂

of 30s cd

🙂

[fair wolf]

sorry guys, but tomorrow we get buffs? nerfs? i dont understand jajaja

[languid crown]

thats just paladin :)

[turbid bay]

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[languid crown]

NAH

[turbid bay]

Huge vault

[livid marsh]

#updates-midnight

[smoky vale]

no

[languid crown]

thats so unlucky :(

[smoky vale]

i was cranking

ret was not s3

[fair wolf]

thats what i dont understand xD

[smoky vale]

the buffs are in

[languid crown]

no but ret is "30 sec cd's"

[smoky vale]

if you are in na

[livid marsh]

what is it that you dont understand specificaly? we overall will be getting some buffs tomorrow

[smoky vale]

ours looked cooler and we did more dam

[unreal onyx]

overall buffs

nothing changes build or rotation wise

you just have a bigger number at the end

[languid crown]

didnt play DF :(

[unreal onyx]

that is the main takeaway

[languid crown]

wish i did now

[livid marsh]

VC tho?

[snow edge]

People were already using VC though?

That’s not really a change with this reset

[smoky vale]

no

but bt will have higher prio

[livid marsh]

well vc gets more value now

[unreal onyx]

bt was high prio before any changes

[livid marsh]

and youre right, both have been played currently

[thorny lily]

what are you guys cooking on m+ today?

[smoky vale]

nothing

[rugged hill]

how's RA Thane outside of cd window

[smoky vale]

cooking isnt my job

[livid marsh]

but was more on asking if vc would become the overall bigger pick now with the changes

[outer rover]

with heroic leap normally the char pulls his wepaons out? i remember he did but now he doesnt. someone same problem?

[unreal onyx]

found the same thing, yes

[smoky vale]

its @flat river's job

[unreal onyx]

I think visual bug

[outer rover]

kk thx

[ivory dragon]

did they nerf Execute for Fury already?

[smoky vale]

yes

nerfy fury

[molten spire]

AM feels quite good

the desync is a bit annoying but oh well

[unreal onyx]

I think I will just stick with RA

in raid and m+

[molten spire]

though RB feels like just a filler now

[pale lava]

so it's BT

before the buff

[rose crag]

how we feeling thane vs slayer in m+? anyone run anything yet?

[unreal pagoda]

is fury better or worse after patch?

[unreal onyx]

why would it be worse

[thick elbow]

its probably been posted but is RA or AM the way to go now with changes for slayer and thane?

[unreal onyx]

if nothing got nerfed, rather buffed

[pale lava]

we got nerfed so much people are asking if we're worse when buffs do happen

[past pivot]

It's been posted

[thick elbow]

where abouts didnt see it in updates

[smoky vale]

#updates-midnight

[snow edge]

#fury message

[thick elbow]

thanks!

[molten spire]

Are not taking OF even on RA with thane?

[verbal garden]

Is it worth taking bitter imunity this week?

[hasty tide]

le sigh, 2nd week of garbage

[kind hill]

can someone link thane builds please

[smoky vale]

#dps-faq

[kind hill]

tyty

[midnight jackal]

not bad vault this week after 2 sockets in a row

[sullen dove]

1m overall on DB rashanan

holy

[arctic raft]

DB?

[sullen dove]

dawnbreaker

[arctic raft]

oo

what build

[sullen dove]

ra slayer

[deep sapphire]

Is Slayer or Thane better in keys after teh buff?

[sullen dove]

thane still

[smoky vale]

grr

[sullen dove]

i think its sort of tossup between ra/am

can do either

tho RA prolly more efficient overall better boss dam and stuff

[snow edge]

It’s definitely‘easier’, which often translates to better DPS

[sullen dove]

can also drop of for even more single target wit vc

[snow edge]

Less micro management

[sullen dove]

big juicy bb crits

[astral path]

AM slayer is so back

[sullen dove]

eh...

[velvet obsidian]

No. Just IV and make sure you are bloodthirsting. BI is too high CD to help much, and we are starving for talent points as it is

[astral path]

reap the storm and bloodthirst doing NUMBERS

[snow edge]

AM Slayer..

[astral path]

am slayer my beloved

[opaque falcon]

What’s the build?

[cursive ridge]

Do we prio rampage > cb/bloodbath now? or still spend both RA charges even rage-capped