fury

[odd star]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/679NUKe4HDXVRjmxZ1c1hY ovinax is a lie, knife is the way baby

[sinful glen]

good to know thx!

[warm crag]

if you genuinely considered playing ovinax you need god

[forest ginkgo]

I mean

[odd star]

i learned it the hard way...

[forest ginkgo]

critcake was seen playing ovinax trinket

Which i was surprised by

[warm crag]

and he needs god

[odd star]

but was he proud about it?

[forest ginkgo]

Idk didnt sound like he complained about it

[turbid glacier]

is it not just a stat stick?

[forest ginkgo]

Ye it changes what stat it gives i think

[warm crag]

yeah a stat stick you need to perfectly balance movement for

[forest ginkgo]

if u stand still, stacks mainstat

if u move, gives secondary

(i think)

[warm crag]

u dont really get to decide on movement on most harder mythic figths

[forest ginkgo]

Ye

Especially sikran, fuck that fight

[warm crag]

yeah that one is up there as one of the harder mythic fights

[thorn smelt]

Are we back in M+ boys?

[warm crag]

with forced movement

[odd star]

you need to control movement and isnt even like you're getting insane dps from it. my comfy knife sims higher

[opaque cypress]

finally got egg from arakara but my sim says 619 ilvl Shadow Binding Knife is 0.1% better than ara kara trinket at 626 ilvl

[forest ginkgo]

We were never gonezo

[warm crag]

ye knife is nuts

[odd star]

knife is the goat

[forest ginkgo]

I mean it gives 3k+ mainstat

and secondary stat

[frozen portal]

are catalysts every 2 weeks?

or is there a quest

[forest ginkgo]

and only has low chance to decrease stats

[robust basin]

How does thane stack up against Slayer now?

[forest ginkgo]

So its pretty good

[odd star]

y

[frozen portal]

ty

[odd star]

slayer still best st

thane good for keys

but slayer good for boss damage in keys

depends on what u want

[forest ginkgo]

I played thane on silken court as well, pretty damn good

[odd star]

oh yeah thane good on court, god bless

[forest ginkgo]

Tbh thane brings ST even for keys in my experience

If i get to blast cds on boss i usually sit on 1.1 million+

Before the buffs

[tacit hill]

Is this the build we should be taking for M+ now, or is this single target?

[forest ginkgo]

And thats pretty sustained, which feelsgood

[odd star]

it does. fury still sacrifices little ST for AoE so fury always good for boss dps unless blizz does an oopsie

[mossy fox]

my hc ovi trinket is dead now i've got 639 transmitter 636 sacbrood

[rancid zealot]

so with the buffs to mountain thane fury are we still running the same build as before?

[forest ginkgo]

I needz

Gimme transmitter

[nimble crater]

I just got myth sacbrood were hype

[forest ginkgo]

We almost killed her this week, i had my chance for it. But we just had to have a few dead so we died from pizza slices

[vale reef]

single target, havent changed any of the talents today if they changed.

[wet wraith]

i unfortunately don't have a pre-buff sim with the same gear but heres another comparison

[odd star]

you can go AM now, might be early to tell if AM is strictly better than RA for thane

[thorn smelt]

Are we better than ret in keys now?

[odd star]

i think RA is better for lower keys

[odd star]

dont think so

but here's to hope

[forest ginkgo]

Ret fucks in keys

[rancid zealot]

is AM worth going in 11s+?

[wet wraith]

i think it'll be close depending on the key

[warm crag]

what is this simming

[wet wraith]

ST 5 minutes

slayer

[warm crag]

like both of them or

[wet wraith]

yeah

[forest ginkgo]

BUT i have beaten a lot of ret palas

[tribal condor]

myth mark or myth wings of shattered sorrow?

[forest ginkgo]

so its all about who you play with

[warm crag]

arms will go crazy if fury sims 1.4

[wet wraith]

both same variables, just slightly more gear on 2nd one

[modest condor]

arms sims only slightly higher than fury

[forest ginkgo]

Which means

[chrome plover]

old: 1.350M
new: 1.450M

[forest ginkgo]

im still fury gamer

[chrome plover]

[warm crag]

with current numbers?

[modest condor]

yeah

[brittle crow]

guys help i thought i beefed a job interview but they want me and it's scary and idk what to do

[warm crag]

king

[odd star]

if its only slight better to go fury for survivability...

[modest condor]

it's like 3% higher or something

[forest ginkgo]

tbh i have always been fury gamer, even when its been a lot worse

Fuk arms

[odd star]

i like arms but i dont like dying

[forest ginkgo]

Never enjoyed arms tbh

[odd star]

arms with skullsplitter now so meh

[forest ginkgo]

I like slamming face on keyboard

[odd star]

skullsplitter + demolish + clap for rend + rend for boss is way too many keybinds for the "i'll spam execute" spec

[warm crag]

you do just spam execute though

[oblique trail]

You can realistically just use TC instead of Rend if you got it talented

It's not really an either or scenario

[chrome relic]

man idk what build to play bro

[forest ginkgo]

For what

[chrome relic]

keyzzzzzz

i did ra slayer last one felt good

[forest ginkgo]

Lemme say it like this

[thorn smelt]

Fury thane for key

[chrome relic]

gonna try am slayer

[forest ginkgo]

Am thane works, RA thane works

RA slayer works

[rancid zealot]

is AM worth going in 10s+?

[forest ginkgo]

Idk about am slayer but probably also works

I personally prefer RA thane

[wet wraith]

heres another, pre-buff vs now, AM thane 5 target 5 minutes, no raid buffs besides battle shout

[haughty token]

i have a 619 offhand thats crit heavy mastery is the brd mace that does fire dmg proc any good?

[wet wraith]

my am is simming higher than ra

[forest ginkgo]

For ST its good

Oh wait

no not the mace

The spear is good

mace is pretty shit if im not wrong

[odd star]

dude im just yapping, i'm far from an expert. i wouldnt know for sure but try it out yourself it's supposed to be very close

[heavy flax]

am thane has been feeling very nice for me

reck + ravager every pack

[knotty lotus]

AM benefits from higher uptime, so it should do better in higher keys than worse

[odd star]

lincc said RA thane worse than AM thane probably but he's doing higher than 10s

[chrome relic]

this am or picking up Berserker's torment

[restive peak]

So far AM thane is BIS as of now

[restive pewter]

I’ll miss you crushing blow

[wet wraith]

idk if its worth running OF right now

[chrome relic]

kinda thinking same

just didnt know what ppl were playing

[haughty token]

is the cursed enchants worth?

[proper onyx]

worth the desync?

[restive peak]

Not really a desync w frenzied

[keen hedge]

#updates-midnight message

[wet wraith]

with how hard BT and ramp are hitting I don't think it really matters even if they were to get desynced by a few seconds

[restive peak]

I get them to 30-35s consistently

[modest condor]

damn really

[wet wraith]

but with buffer time between pulls in keys you should be able to rav with roar and ava pretty much every time

[chrome relic]

are you still playing OF

[mossy fox]

are you still playing the build ive been playing

[restive peak]

Yeah for thane

No OF

OF is dead button imop

[mossy fox]

ya the marginal aoe gain isnt worth the decently big st loss imo

[restive peak]

And it's just another button to stress

[median dust]

rampage is smacking in AM thane

[obtuse palm]

Can someone link full build of that supposedly AM Thane build?

[rocky rover]

what yall taking instead of OF?

[normal bane]

have you tried dropping hack and slash yet, it doesn't feel needed at all

[brittle crow]

which build

[restive peak]

VC

[hallow remnant]

2x vicious contempt

[wet wraith]

anyone tried dropping one point of vicious contempt to take unbridled ferocity? feel like its prob not worth with only a 6% chance to proc

[restive peak]

For ST/prio dmg

[proper onyx]

sounds like am thane build is just switch ra for am, drop of for vicious contempt and use frenzied enrage

[mossy fox]

no, it's a massice loss to lose hns

[thorn smelt]

Why wowhead thane build not suggesting AM

[odd star]

not updated yet

[astral path]

HEY GUYS

IM COOMING

last week myth sikran neck

[normal bane]

it feels like i'm never out of RB charges and i'm always just rampaging

[astral path]

this week myth rash cloak

we're so back

[thorn smelt]

Is mad queen trinket 626 is even worth taking over 626 mark?

[rocky rover]

So thinking something like this for M+?

[odd star]

i take haste nodes and the longer reck

[obtuse palm]

Frenzied instead of Powerful Enrage I think

[odd star]

and frenzied

[sly mulch]

You play frenzied enrage with AM @rocky rover

[mossy fox]

sim doesnt care about our feelings unfortunately

[proper onyx]

something tells me berserker torment stronger than titan's torment without of

[coral jewel]

wait is the buff live or tomorrow?

[past pivot]

already live

[coral jewel]

oh dam nice

[obtuse palm]

and berserker torment

[opaque lintel]

for us eu ppl

we go

[coral jewel]

so we should have new talent specs or no?

[odd star]

that as well

[opaque lintel]

tmr

[coral jewel]

eu is tomorrow?

[opaque lintel]

yes

eu tmr

[obtuse palm]

That correct?

[coral jewel]

ah ok gotcha thats what i thought

[pale lava]

@modest condor is raidbots updated with the buffs yet?

[modest condor]

should be

[odd star]

haste nodes in middle and longer reck, no?

[wet wraith]

may take swift strikes instead of critical thinking but prob not a big diff

[rocky rover]

what you drop to take depths of in

[wet wraith]

and longer reck yeah

[normal bane]

isn't the point of hack and slash just more raging blow charges which aren't really needed with AM when you're just spamming out rampages

[pale lava]

ty

[fervent barn]

so im still leveling to 80, starting to unlock some cds, do you guys macro any of these 1.5 min cds together so you just use them all together?

[heavy flax]

this is what i've been using

[proper onyx]

is there an amount of haste where you dont need frenzied enrage?

[odd star]

same

[last pier]

am simming vastly lower for me so idk maybe my toon is broken

[wet wraith]

ive got several macros but still have stuff bound separately. like i have rava/reck macro'd but you still should have a reck keybind for when you need to reck before charge

[obtuse palm]

One more mastery point instead of hack and slash maybe?

[neat wharf]

is there a reason no one's taking odyns fury?

[marble bison]

got nerfed

[odd star]

compared to what? ra thane? my ra sims higher too but its basically 0.1% diff

[hallow remnant]

massive st loss for weak aoe gain

[odd star]

maybe am scales better with gear

im low ilvl

[last pier]

ye im losing ~6%

[neat wharf]

was there a second nerf after the target cap nerf?

[fervent barn]

i see

[wet wraith]

make sure you swap to berserker's torment instead of titan's torment for AM

[dire vigil]

Does the ring craft/re-craft exploit still work to be able to freely upgrade your 2nd ring? Tryna juice my ilvl a bit and both my rings are 619. Could craft a 636 and get the other up to 626 immediately. Big ups.

[mossy fox]

again you can sim the diff on ST, it's huge - any time hns prevents you from using a weak filler, it's giving you lots of dps

[summer crater]

Which spec of it? Any I've tried has simmed lower on both st and aoe for me

[proper onyx]

bb/bt buffs make vicious contempt a more attractive talent now, especially since OF as a global is less valuable comparatively

[mossy fox]

doesnt matter if it's rare

[fervent barn]

would a avatar>reck>bladestorm macro work?

[odd star]

are u sure ur am build is correct?

[odd star]

i do roar before bs

[wet wraith]

if anything i would macro roar there

[fervent barn]

dont have roar yet

[wet wraith]

instead of BS

[fervent barn]

lvl 63

[wet wraith]

for now it prob doesn't matter much but i'd get used to pressing BS separately

[last pier]

silly me 1.1% gain now running AM, was missing a cruical piece of the puzzle

[odd star]

bs should be its own button cause you're cdring it and it wont align

unless you bs on thane

which sounds weak

[wet wraith]

BS thane gigachad

[proper onyx]

there must be some point where powerful enrage is worth it, i have 16.2k haste unbuffed and powerful sims higher in 5t by a decent amount (thane am)

[mossy fox]

more like gigafeelsbad

[wet wraith]

yeah but screen spinning weakaura

[patent light]

Gigasad

[fervent barn]

alright, but avatar>reck macro together is ok?

[odd star]

you do have a lot of haste

[mossy fox]

send reck ava bs, unhinged procs 2 extra TBs that become fully wasted

[wet wraith]

you'll run into them desyncing once you start running anger management

[proper onyx]

m sik neck go brr

[hardy cargo]

i was enjoying bs on thane when unhinged was broken

[wet wraith]

i was joking though BS on thane is troll

[fervent barn]

Ah ok

[harsh violet]

alright what's the play now boys

[odd star]

u can do that but its good to have reck button so u can reck before charge when not running the of insta enrage talent

[harsh violet]

https://tenor.com/bCzVF.gif

[fervent barn]

Trying to simplify my binds here

[obtuse palm]

For AM Thane, Bloodthirst has prio over Raging Blow?

[hardy cargo]

in aoe yeah, probably always now after buff but a post hasnt been made so dont take my word as gospel

[odd star]

my macro is only for avatar
dps potion
and trinket

[hybrid vector]

hows single target boost looking for us after todays update yall

[odd star]

All other things are individual binds

[wet wraith]

i'd say once you get roar you are pretty safe you macro ava and roar together, it was much simpler when we weren't running anger management but yeah you just have to get comfortable with having 80 different cooldowns unfortunately

[nimble crater]

Question is how does execute feel now

[hardy cargo]

my sim went up 100k, #updates-midnight for more numbers

[nimble crater]

Or still worthless

[fervent barn]

alright thanks bois

[odd star]

at least we have few rotational buttons : )

[wet wraith]

think it still sucks on fury

at least on thane

[odd star]

wasnt the exec buff like 10%

[nimble ibex]

are we using AM or RA for thane now?

[wet wraith]

yeah and ramp and BT got buffed too. just can't see a situation where you'd press it over bloodthirst on either hero spec

[median dust]

MAN RAMPAGE FEELS SO GOOD IN AM THANEEEEE

[wet wraith]

unless you have BT cdr stacks

BS*

[flat river]

REAL

[gusty cloak]

just need a little more gilded

[fervent barn]

is there a new recommended spec for this update for dungeons? ill probably be 80 soon anyways

[flat river]

he just like me fr

[odd star]

go RA thane

[orchid moth]

Are sims updated?

[odd star]

the build is on wowhead

[last pier]

what kinda DPS are you guys seeing from your ramp now?

[odd star]

AM is better on high keys

[proud leaf]

jfc the dummies in dornogal are unusable. lag is insane

[wet wraith]

yeah its impossible to get a full 5 minutes on the dummies without just lagging out for a few GCDs

[last pier]

lol mal'ganis v dead the dummies have no one here rn

[heavy dock]

must be nice being this lucky

[nimble ibex]

can u link talents plz

[strong zephyr]

should we be taking two points in VC in the m+ slayer build?

[tribal condor]

[strong zephyr]

not sure what to drop tho

[last pier]

dropping odyns for it

[strong zephyr]

even in slayer?

[spare flame]

i'd take the ring fr fr

[tribal condor]

have

[last pier]

oh slayer i wasnt paying attention idk not gonna play slayer in m+ anymore

[mint karma]

yeah thane looks likes it a blaster

[boreal cairn]

no way you take the ring over myth track trinket lol

[mint karma]

do we have an updated tal build yet?

[spare flame]

easy khardros then

[mint karma]

are we going RA? or AM for 11+

[tribal condor]

myth track cloak not it?

[obtuse palm]

Am

[fervent barn]

is it in the pins?

[mint karma]

yeah I think if packs live long AM would be the play

in 11+ and up

[wet wraith]

id say its between mark and cloak, depends on your trinkets but the cloak is pretty nice for keys

[tribal condor]

have heroic transmitter and sac

[wet wraith]

id def say cloak then, nothing else too crazy there unless you need a ring

[tribal condor]

odds of getting myth trinket again are much lower than myth cloak

[last pier]

^

[wet wraith]

yeah true if you're reclearing rash

[tribal condor]

yeah like ill have the same vault tiers next week too

[wet wraith]

i just hate rolling for the very rare items when everyone and their mother needs it

[tribal condor]

literally what i said like no shot i get a myth one maybe heroic

[wet wraith]

and my monkey brain says its already 639 so no using crests

[tribal condor]

my monkey brain says it sims higher

[outer umbra]

didnt get a mythic weapon all fucking tier long and i finally get blessed with 2 this vault amen amen amen amen

[last pier]

W

[chrome plover]

🙏 one is surely in my vault tomorrow too

killed ulgrax every week

[wet wraith]

ive been so lucky with weapons. got myth ulgrax weapon on our first kill

[mild ravine]

Would you play without OF for thane?

[outer umbra]

of course man, lets pass around the good vaults

[chrome plover]

❤️

[last pier]

Technically ya but then u realize how transmitter sucks in so many situations and i hate that i have it and im tired of chasing it and i want to replace it asap

[chrome plover]

it's not that bad tbh

[last pier]

Its fine a lot of the time but when it isnt fine it feels really bad

the lil platform and jumping np but sometimes that orb wanders b4 I can find it in a mass of ppl or mobs lol

[lusty light]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I'm simming RA MT as 9.6% increase in 5 target vs AM MT

[livid vigil]

are you doing 5 target patchwerk?

[lusty light]

Yea, 5-target patchwerk

[livid vigil]

for how long?

[chrome relic]

bloodthirst damage......................

[median dust]

We back baby

[lusty light]

Standard 5 min

[meager void]

Iink the sims

[median dust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oQV4a2n4KSgKoWnQVN4FjV

[odd star]

wrong talent build probably

[lusty light]

What I got for AM MT

[long glacier]

whoever designed transmitters mini games needs to get kicked in the nuts

[tacit hill]

Thank you!

[vestal root]

Meanwhile spymasters better in every way

[lusty light]

Don't copy, I think this is wrong

[meager void]

It is

[odd star]

yea thats wrong

[chrome relic]

try this

[lusty light]

Kk testing

[meager void]

And also, link the sim plz.

[placid crane]

Anyone try running this build? Sims a lil higher than normal thane aoe but opener def feels weird.

[meager void]

No screencap, a link from raidbots

[tacit hill]

Someone link raidbots sim for best M+ build

[livid vigil]

this one's not bad but playing with spear can be a little awkward

[short cobalt]

yall try slayer yetr

in dung

[meager void]

The changes dropped today, ppl are still cooking

[balmy shore]

guys,,,,,,,,

[lusty light]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bbqoHS2N1i7Jw9kfm1Raka

[proper onyx]

it will be a cold day in hell before i spear in a dungeon

[lusty light]

Still showing RA MT

[livid vigil]

could just be your gear then, I think AM really wants a ton of haste

[meager void]

Criticake has a Thane AM cook which looks like fire. But we gotta give some time for testing

[rocky thistle]

Banished to the stand in place task realm

[balmy shore]

@tidal kindle @vestal root ring #2?

[balmy peak]

bizzy still with RA and OF

[tidal kindle]

Die cape die

[summer crater]

Ra sims better but shouldn't be that much

[gusty cloak]

feeels weird without odyns fury

[elder granite]

socket is simming higher than mythic chest upgrade

[meager void]

Crit's Thane AM cook (untested)

[elder granite]

idk what to do

[lusty light]

I'm at 30% haste

[balmy shore]

cape no dps increase :3

[tidal kindle]

Crest save...

[tacit hill]

Are we in agreement AM is better now then RA

[last pier]

ahhhhhh theres too many builds cooking rn my brain is spinning

[tidal kindle]

Arms flex....

[tacit hill]

for MT

[frank harbor]

when did you use this build ?

[meager void]

The jury is still out on m+

[summer crater]

Sim it on your character

[lusty light]

I've yet to use

[meager void]

But Thane AM looks like the whey

[frank harbor]

in wich situation 🙂

[last pier]

idk arks ra build looks pretty hot

[arctic raft]

WHAT DO I USE IN RAID

[summer crater]

On mine RA is still several % better in sims

[lusty light]

I'm so confused, I'm going to let you guys cook and go to lunch

[arctic raft]

SOMEONE TEL MEEEEE

[lusty light]

RA MT for me is simming way higher for some reason T_T

[elder granite]

socket is simming higher than mythic track chest piece

[balmy shore]

already have max myth cape

:3

[arctic raft]

Until you upgrade the chest

[meager void]

Link.the.sim.

[restive peak]

Can confirm AM thane build Crit and I have been running giga fucks

[elder granite]

fully upgraded

[fresh moss]

talent tree?

[rose bay]

critcake where vid teach me im stupid

[meager void]

The Jury is in boys and its Thane for dinner.

[tidal kindle]

L moment, no crests saved

[restive peak]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDWwMzCMMjxDwMMzssNzYmZWYmZmZGmZsM8AYGDAAAEGDsBLLGNmBkZBWmxC

[wet wraith]

this is all you need to know boys, its hot off the press

[south kayak]

btw Survival owns

[south kayak]

[spare flame]

LOL

[arctic raft]

For m+?

[hardy cargo]

I just played it in a cot and yeah this feels real fuckin nice

[wet wraith]

there will be a time one day where blizzard decides we need a dose of SMF and buffs it to the moon

[ornate bobcat]

Is this just for M+ or in raid as well?

[gusty cloak]

the one without OF?

[last pier]

slayer for raid still

[placid crane]

According to my sim which uses Berserker's Torment, we should cast both recklessness and avatar at the same time.. Why?

[restive peak]

I'm running that build for silken as of now anyway

OF is dead time to acept it bois

accept*

[latent hedge]

cause time stacks

[rose bay]

Rip only fans

[placid crane]

you're lying, Thank you!

[last pier]

im not mad that of is dead its one less thing to worry about

[daring badge]

@.zhai @restive peak so keys and raid?

[south kayak]

why wouldn't i accept it, OF isn't that exciting lol

[balmy shore]

yea im upset

[restive peak]

I mean I would still recommend slayer for most raid fights

But you could run this for raid as well, yeah

[south kayak]

play thane st to sandbag

[barren vapor]

guys what's the difference between Charged Claymore vs Everforged Greataxe? like why are ppl building one over the other?

[lean heart]

sword cooler

[keen forum]

the mog

and cost of mats

[barren vapor]

oh so they're virtually the same

hmm

[livid vigil]

yeah they're the same

[arctic raft]

Transmog, mat costs

[south kayak]

@restive peak I'm curious if Gathering Clouds is better than Thorim's Might? since they buffed Lightning Strikes

[elder granite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uhrp8avJdyACcmeMhocpby

[vast sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-4412875

[rocky wharf]

h mad queen trinket or myth mastery ring? i just asked cuz i been wanting to time some 10s now i got my ilvl up. currently 626 sac + shard

[restive peak]

Was thinking that as well, gonna test it

[nimble ibex]

so whats the prio list with this?

[wet wraith]

need to make sure you have the new chest enchanted in the sim

[plush raven]

Shard + Egg or shard + Mark?

[restive peak]

Press Ramp as often as possible

Otherwise same as always

You just move ramp up considerably, in my gear I'm literally pressing ramp EOGCD

[crisp coral]

Am I allowed to go AM now or is reckless abandon still way stronger

[tacit hill]

(THANE Build for MT) - RA + Odyns Fury + Titanic Rage (3.88m for 5 add MT)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vJdFkE8PADPKwMS7W4Ap1u

(THANE Build for MT) - AM + Unbridled Ferocity + Depths of Insanity (3.690m for 5 add MT)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aeG3T8DnR5m7GaovBxzHeW

(THANE Build for MT) - AM + Odyns Fury + Titanic Rage (3.817m for 5 add MT)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8AJbvJbVKMuVxNzND555y6

Conclusion - Best MT Build for Thane appears to be RA + Odyns Fury + Titanic Rage

My Characther stats
Crit - 18%
Haste - 24%
Mastery - 55%
Ilvl - 628

[restive peak]

Don't even know if the APL is updated yet Darren, also you're never in a 5m AOE fight

Run a 5 and 8t at 1.5ish mins, maybe 2mins

[south kayak]

Not with that attitude

[restive peak]

xD

[tacit hill]

Was not aware the APL wasnt updated

Ill move sims down to 2 min

[wet wraith]

you also have titan's torment on the second one instead of berserker's torment

[keen forum]

AM https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/89fAN9mG1eGHvLck67qK2C
RA OF https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mFJbySbLCzPNxeGkbQ2tzK

OF deadge gang

[tacit hill]

I think I ran TT for all of them

[wet wraith]

yeah but on the second one you don't have OF so you should switch it to BT

[tacit hill]

Yeah TT for all of them

[calm island]

Are we gonna get free IO to keys we’ve timed with the 90 second added timer 12+

[restive peak]

No lol

[wheat estuary]

SO WE BACK BOYS?

[calm island]

I know in the past it’s happened

[wet wraith]

apparently some people in my guild did get awarded some IO

[tacit hill]

Good to know sir

[stable panther]

I did

[harsh violet]

WE NEVER LEFT

https://tenor.com/msbU7uNBlKb.gif

[gloomy needle]

few in my guild got io, but they didnt get portals when it changed to timed

[meager void]

Wait what

[calm island]

Oh yeah I was wondering with some of my 12s being nearly 2 chested

[torpid sand]

Did you consider removing OF entirely to put two points in VC?

[rotund verge]

im seeing a lot of talk about the thane build for m+, any big changes to our raid builds? is am the favorite over ra now with the buffs to baseline rb and bt?

[hardy cargo]

is AM+ brutal finish simming best on single target for anyone else?

[tacit hill]

Im trying more things

[lyric ether]

Would it make sense to do this on Mythic Ovinax?

[meager void]

Is this true?

[gloomy needle]

yes?

[granite trout]

I'm trying to catch up here and I'm a big dumb guy -- what's AM mean

[gloomy needle]

Anger Management

[calm island]

Anger management

[granite trout]

Oh duh

[chrome plover]

the extra 90s was added retroactively

[glad coyote]

anybody see a bump in their IO score from yesterday to today?

[restive peak]

Slayer gets damage out quicker and Ovinax is a burst fight, so probably not? But possibly

[rose bay]

someone in my guild did

[chrome plover]

so all of your keys above whatever level challengers peril comes in get an extra 90s

[lyric ether]

Makes sense. So only really looking like Thane on Court for now.

[torpid sand]

ngl I feel like these two points in VC are giving me a lot of prio damage

[devout kraken]

I gained 11 IO overnight, but it looks like it was mostly just 1-2 point increases for better time %

[torpid sand]

Really good

[restive peak]

Would appear so, but we'll know more in a few hours

[lyric ether]

Appreciate you, thanks

[crisp coral]

yeah that's wild, I got 60 rating because of that change. Definitely didn't expect that

[hardy cargo]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qYvWK862LrqB63GXUZCzxy can someone tell me if this sim looks fucked up in any way or is this real

[restive peak]

The nicest thing is this thane am build is giga fun on top of being super strong

[calm island]

Yeah I knew I wasnt crazy figured that would happen

[pine crater]

he guys! hope I could get some advice. Would you say it's worth to get the ring here even though it's just heroic over any of the myth track items I got? (The only thing I need is the waist but then its stats are crit vers lol). However, when I think the catalyst version of waists for us is haste mastery so that might be good too. And what do you guys think I should get, thanks!

[gusty cloak]

can you link your build lincc

[torpid sand]

Sim

[past pivot]

did you sim?

[restive peak]

Search my name it's linked up above, not too far homie

[rose bay]

Remember order is always sim->4skin->skyhold

[hardy cargo]

id take ring just bc you are competing against everyone and their mother for it

[gusty cloak]

got it ty

[nimble ibex]

do we aline cd or just send them?

[restive peak]

In my current gear, I'm getting AM/Rav down to 30ish s

[daring badge]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDWwMzCMMjxDwMMzssNzYmZWYmZmZGmZsM8AYGDAAAEGDsBLLGNmBkZBWmxC

[restive peak]

So it's always aligned for me

I also have like 30% haste

[tacit hill]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2w5b9eYyUidMXxunyoktWH

It would appear that AM is better for MT

[nimble ibex]

yeah my haste to high rn lol

[red berry]

if rampage procced lightning

[cold silo]

So if the dmg of abilities just went up, I assume the meta specs are the exact same, we just do more dmg now right? No changes to specs or rotations

[gusty cloak]

22% haste here

[meager void]

Is it BB>CB or CB>BB?

[buoyant salmon]

this is a quick sim

what are u comparing

[hardy cargo]

cb first

[cold silo]

For slayer cb > bb, for mthane aoe bb > cb

[pine crater]

should I sim for patchwerk or dungeon slice? sorry been gone for a bit

[buoyant salmon]

its also sustained 5 targets

[past pivot]

patchwerk imo

[last pier]

5t pw 1.5-2mins works fine enough

8t fine too

[median kestrel]

Which? Excuse the quality

[last pier]

sim it

[past pivot]

which simmed best?

[random raptor]

bro pulled out the potato for this one

[pine crater]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7xp5CyeQE8mV7YB89EuaMN
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sNQGZ7GWTwK1ANES7ABn5F
these are my sims, they're telling me to go with the ring but I was thinking I can get that in a raid anyways while the belt is myth

[tidal kindle]

@radiant plank arms boutta go crazy

[restive peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/25cvGB3yzXbui4SMh6zXU2

We are so back

[median kestrel]

They both sim lower than transmitter but transmitter sucks for keys

[hardy cargo]

like I said earlier, youll be cometing with a ton of people for the ring. while myth track belt can be looted off first boss mythicf

[radiant plank]

[pine crater]

ohh I did not think of that, okay you make a good point

[hardy cargo]

is this siming over AM for you?

[cedar depot]

idk if sims are even reliable right now lol, onslaught showing a 92% dps loss

[velvet obsidian]

Damn these new buffs feel terrific btw

[prime badger]

any new build guys ?

[restive peak]

I actually haven't even run a pure ST AM sim yet

[hardy cargo]

AM + DOI (drop out of critical thinking)

[restive peak]

This is like 112k higher than yday already

[south kayak]

Try simming gathering clouds

[hardy cargo]

am sims like 7k higher than RA

for me

I also have a metric fuckton of haste tho

[chrome wraith]

7k basically doesn't exist at these numbers

[hardy cargo]

22.6k with rank 2 flask

[tacit hill]

Same, AM simming higher

[ivory sinew]

Hey guys. I'm a little confused on our prior for the new build. Lincbyoure saying it's ramp eogcd. But what do we fill with if we have the option of by, cb, or thunderstrike?!

[chrome wraith]

just play what you like

[pine crater]

would you get the ring or sockets? sorry for the many questions

[ivory sinew]

Bt*

[tacit pawn]

Anyone have the updated talents?

[hardy cargo]

out of the vault you posted, I would take the ring. mostly bc so much competition and itll only really be replaced by high lvl with track with super good stats, or myth version of itself

[tacit hill]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDWwMzCMMjxDwMMzssNzYmZWYmZmZGmZsM8AYGDAAAEGDsBLLGNmBkZBWmxC

I did like 5-6 different sim builds, this appears to be highest for MT

[tacit pawn]

Okay, for M+ or raid?

[tacit hill]

M+

[tacit pawn]

perfect

[ivory sinew]

Does anyone know the priority list for the new AM build? Trying to decide what should be priority to fill between rampage spam!?

[hardy cargo]

oh also swap brutal finish > culling cyclone for AM too, forgor that one

[tidal kindle]

LMAO @radiant plank

[south kayak]

[proud leaf]

under what sim settings?

[restive peak]

Still think brutal is better w all the ramp amps

After the culling nerf

[restive peak]

LMFAO

[last pier]

now with new builds time to recraft out of some of this haste lol

[tacit hill]

Patchwork, 5 mins

5 targets

[tacit pawn]

So what all changes with the rotation

[feral quartz]

dumb question, does it matter if i have my higher ilvl wep as main hand or off hand? pretty sure you wanted it in mainhand in the past but when i swap from to arms it puts my crafted wep in offhand and its annoying lol

[tacit hill]

Did you sim it

[tacit pawn]

love u

[hardy cargo]

u do indeed want mh higher ilvl

[meager void]

This is most likely not updated.

[polar narwhal]

MH always highest itemlevel.

[tacit hill]

I dont believe much will change with it

but yeah

[radiant plank]

primed dopamine

[feral quartz]

yea thats what i thought but its annoying swapping to arms set lol

[odd star]

@restive peak u think thane drops OF even in RA build? OF only on slayer?

[meager void]

Bloodthirst was considerably buffed

[tacit hill]

Yeah I would put BT up way higher

[elder granite]

why am i still capped on runed crest

[tacit hill]

Prop like 8

[pine crater]

got it, thanks!

[somber elk]

do we still rotate between bt and rb?

[hardy cargo]

bt>rb in aoe for thane at least

[last pier]

You link someone a rotation that is completely wrong now, state not much changes while then admitting something major changes by moving an entire ability up near the top of the prio list. Why even link him the picture with 0 context lol.

[slate sun]

Its still the same in an ST situation, but negligable, so can go back to just CB>BB>RB

[tacit hill]

Completely wrong is a drastic overstatement

It requires like 2 changes based on the buffs

If you have a more accurate one, please share, but that is what is available ATM

[restive peak]

I don't even know if we keep OF for slayer at this point tbh

[last pier]

that makes it completely wrong lol youre just arguing semantics but when you link a picture that has bt near the bottom and then say here you go lol

[tacit hill]

Bro you just take BT and put it higher up and you are good

Sorry for sharing anything at all lol

[meager void]

Its unhinged to demand "best talents/prio" merely a few hours after the servers have come up

[restive pewter]

simmed it and its telling me to take belt but i dont wanna believe skarm shard is that bad

[devout kraken]

Powerful enrage often sims higher for me in most scenarios I put it in, but I often see people runinng Frenzied insted? Is it just because I chill at 30% haste with current gear?

[meager void]

Its unhinged to demand at all, but more considering the timing.

[last pier]

i mean yeah misinformation is worse than no information lol

[hexed stream]

Can I get that shard?

[odd star]

even for raid mt slayer ? im salivating at the idea of not stressing over OF 😇

[tacit hill]

I obviously deeply offended you

[hexed stream]

Like now

[restive pewter]

yeah all yours brother

[hexed stream]

🔥

[distant compass]

any updates to builds/rotations for fury or arms post buffs?

or do we not know yet

[somber elk]

for me ra thane sims better than am thane in single target and in dunegon slice

[odd star]

i imagine there will be updates on wowhead when things get more stable

cause stuff changed

[distant compass]

if we aren't doing 2 mil+ st dps like outlaw last week, im uninstalling

[eager thorn]

Belt is easier to get than trinket

[restive pewter]

yea m ulgrax pretty ez

i was thinking of just slamming hands

[last pier]

im in the same boat. I imagine if we can drop enough haste FE will gain more value but atm PE is better.

[hardy cargo]

I always run FE with AM just bc, and FE sims very slighty better i nST

[south kayak]

15% haste, my beloved

[crisp coral]

It'll depend on your stats to a degree. It's a flat % increase, so if you're closer to your DR on haste FE should sim higher

If you're fully geared PE should sim higher, since past your haste DR mastery is the stronger stat

[devout kraken]

Yeah I'm at 30% haste raw, and 8t 2m sims are showing PE to be a +183k dps
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1pBcVdPG3i4MUMC6EpsJHk

Did 5t and 8t are both 2m and 5m sims, and in every instance it was a huge difference, might just have to play with both and see how I feel

edit: sorry that also includes gathering storm vs thorim's too

[young swan]

yikes

[last pier]

Too lazy to look, did TM win out over GS? did for me

[broken hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/egg-frank-can-i-offer-you-a-nice-egg-in-this-trying-time-gif-13802522

[devout kraken]

its like a 2k difference on an 8t sim, and pretty much the same thing for every other sim I ran

[haughty token]

does dungeon slice work for sims now?

[restive pewter]

ok how do i play transmitter+skarm shard

is that a thing

or am i trolling

[fervent barn]

having some trouble tracking enrage and ww procs, anyone can recommend a simple wa for it?

[last pier]

Really wanted to find cracked tech w/ UF + snap induction but ig we just natty have too many TB or smthn for it to have value

[oblique trail]

noob only 1 mythic slot

[last pier]

if u want simple just use personal resource display

[oblique trail]

Couldn't be me

(I have 3 heroic slots)

[obtuse palm]

I'm 629 ilvl and I sim 100k ahead in Thane RA than Thane AM in Dungeon Slice (playing OF with RA and VC with AM)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/f9VRy8fb9YVb2aUyJt1G1b

[winged sail]

nice

[last pier]

AM value really comes along the higher the keys get

[fervent barn]

whats that?

[last pier]

so theres a lot of value in it thats unsimmable in a way

[outer rover]

Did someone sim ra slayer for m+?

[last pier]

built into game options

[obtuse palm]

I guess, I already do high keys, but 100k is huge

[last pier]

Do that then show personal Cds option

[fervent barn]

ill check it out, thx

[calm island]

bro goated wtf

[meager void]

If you discussing your stat % in any serious manner here, know that you are getting chuckled at.

[last pier]

Prolly one of those try both see how they feel kinda things

[restive pewter]

goddamn

[kind fjord]

has the fury intelligentsia determined the new builds

[summer crater]

Yeah but it's gatekept and no one else will ever know them

[grizzled ridge]

sadge

[stuck mason]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[undone flower]

It’s a secret only 1 handers keep

[honest karma]

Lmao

[heavy dock]

wait can u get loot from bosses u didnt kill?

or did u only kill like rash and first lol

[calm island]

i sat first two killed sik rash progging ovinax it dies tonight

[tacit hill]

Curious what the new rotation is for Thane + Anger Management

[chilly fractal]

you get loot from the furthest boss you've killed and before

[last pier]

wym follow ur screenshot

[calm island]

i hate that it was that good

[rigid kestrel]

Is wowhead guide Update with the new buffs?

[tacit hill]

rofl you're blocked dude

you are so toxic

[eager thorn]

Block like minecraft

[last pier]

https://tenor.com/view/will-gif-2553459115951539861

[tacit hill]

didnt even factor in that was wrong when i posted it

[last pier]

wait ms got a 30% buff not 15%? lmao thats very neat for them over there

[honest karma]

So how many % more fun is m+ today

[eager thorn]

Ele shamans got a 6.5% dmg buff on lightning bolt that wasnt in notes

Blizz are cooked

[young swan]

good

good

showingbelly is rising

got spymasters today

very powerful

[tired brook]

in showingbelly we trust

[hardy cargo]

nah showingbelly fucked rn

blizz messed up a bunch of shit with shaman

[last pier]

scuse me there is too many of you beating me to signups for 10s rn pls stop

[nimble ibex]

powerful enrage siming higher?

[zealous stone]

is it true we got buffed guys

[south kayak]

Ele shaman st is not good

[eager thorn]

ye its just the fact theres changes differing to the post

[young swan]

its always been about even, can be higher if you have a lot of haste

[nimble ibex]

thats what it is i got the bis neck today now my haste to high

[left perch]

or ping

[young swan]

ping wouldn't make it sim higher

[left perch]

oh sim, not “playing” duh

[hardy cargo]

damn reap the storm fucks real hard after changes

nw 11

[frank robin]

How we looking for M+? Thane still or is Slayer back on the menu?

[night void]

both

[hardy cargo]

I played one key of each so far both feel fine

[sour elbow]

Do we change any talents?

[hardy cargo]

just hit 2m overall in nw 11 so slayer is more than okay

[night void]

in thane u can go away of OF

for huge BT BB

[outer rover]

Both with RA?

[plucky oak]

Rotation Question:

Do you use Rampage at the end of your enrage duration, or when it's expired to refresh?

[hardy cargo]

thane with AM

slayer with RA

[outer rover]

Thx

[hardy cargo]

I dont think ill be playing thane AM, am considering swapping to AM on slayer and dropping OF

[jolly marten]

where are the NA warriors pve streamers?

[outer rover]

Sleeping

[hardy cargo]

prolly just none on or at work

[crisp coral]

@plucky oak You use it to not rage cap, and also to extend enrage. You can get 99% parses if you cast it the second it's available to you regarldess of your rage and enrage duration

[odd star]

did u run of

[odd star]

dont let it expire

[hardy cargo]

yes sadly

we did some sillyness so I figured itd be good and im questioning that decision after the key now

[odd star]

with ra builds i dont think u pressing enrage asap as ur saying

[obtuse palm]

I sim higher Thane RA

[frank robin]

did the buffs get enacted?

[sullen dove]

enacted holy

[fervent yoke]

Yes they live for us

[sullen dove]

[fervent yoke]

Are we back bois?!

I’m still at work

[south kayak]

Enact dn

[dry ruin]

Are people grouping warriors now or still lacking brain cells ?

[plucky oak]

thank you

[nocturne dragon]

@coarse nest finally beat the disappointment weak I got the rare neck heroic only since I don't do Myth

[plucky oak]

thank you

[fast mural]

warriors still lacking brain cells

[dry ruin]

Not my question tho

[thorny arch]

He couldn't interpret it correctly due to the lack of brain cells.

[dry ruin]

must be that

[fast mural]

surely you didnt ask if pugs have more braincells now
thats a trick question

[dry ruin]

Ofc there's only one answer 😉

[verbal rivet]

Craft a shield and cope

[elder granite]

in AM MT are we still pressing rampage/RB while ravager is up

[stuck mason]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

Tanking is for people who graduated 3rd grade not for me

[golden hare]

real

[verbal rivet]

Acting like pwar is harder then fury is wild

[granite trout]

Not harder but >>anxiety<<

[somber elk]

why shouldnt we

[elder granite]

was just wondering if spamming rampage is better cause of the rage we generate

[somber elk]

well you prio rampage

[tacit pawn]

ooooooh these fury buffs are feelin GOOOOOOOD baby

[stuck mason]

It’s not the rotation I just can’t be fucked to learn routes me just follow tank and zugzug

[winged sail]

Guys when do you use skarmorak in opener

[elder granite]

macro with avatar

[winged sail]

Ty

[primal drift]

hey guys, here to ask the question everyone asks

are we dropping OF??\

[unborn yoke]

How do people sim for m+? Patchwerk 5 targets 2 min or something else?

[gusty cloak]

rampage over everything?

[viscid condor]

im dropping my OF

[neon ice]

Skarmorak shard 639 or transmitter 626?

[daring badge]

how is the slayer raid build looking?

[stuck mason]

Save your sanity get the shard

[last pier]

^^^^^

[coral jewel]

So is USA reset on tuesday and EU wednesday?

[last pier]

y

[stuck mason]

Yep

[coral jewel]

Ah ok makes sense with the class patch then

[sharp frigate]

Am I tripping or did bloodbath buffs get left out of the datamine 💀

[livid carbon]

so what is this talk about dropping OF, why?

[quick finch]

did they seriously fix fury the week I decide to get my hunter raid ready?

[stuck mason]

They ruined Hunter so you’re in luck unless you’re SV

Killed a whole hero talent

[viscid condor]

for VC

[livid carbon]

for what content/build?

[last pier]

am

[quick finch]

damn they buffed bloodthirst that hard? i'll have to check notes.

[short cobalt]

slayer AM or RA?

[hardy cargo]

I played RA, but I think that was a mistake

[hollow bloom]

So i`m reading the thing about fury execute offhand

overall we got buffed and the offhand got nerfed, right?

[fervent yoke]

We still thane in m plus?

[viscid condor]

both felt good for me

[molten wing]

more or less yeah which means execute was buffed by 5% for us instead of 10

[harsh crest]

no thane no gain

[molten wing]

because of the fix

[hardy cargo]

it is still an execute buff yes

[unborn yoke]

Execute goes from green pool noodle to blue pool noodle

[hardy cargo]

I think its closer to 7.5% bc offhand hits for about 1/2 of mh

[molten wing]

its still a button you not really press

maybe not it has some prio but eh

[fervent yoke]

Is there like a discord for puggers trying to find decent m plus groups?

[winter fossil]

Did they post any changes in rotation?

[hardy cargo]

I think wow made easy or something like that

[thorn smelt]

Are we up good in keys boys or we down bad

[fervent yoke]

We went from dog water to medicore

[young swan]

up medium

[fervent yoke]

It’s a start

[molten wing]

its time to embrace arms

[fervent yoke]

Still waiting on some group utility worth bringing a warr for

[hollow geyser]

yeah why inv fury over ret or fdk

[thorn smelt]

Exactly, 0 utilities

[sullen dove]

Wah utility

[winter fossil]

The only keys am doing is with guildies or really late and people invite me cause no one is awake to play😂

[sullen dove]

no one cares tank does all the utility

Vdh or perish

Grip every 20 seconds

[keen kindle]

I mean in the past

I'd argue rally

But rally is so fucking dead

LIteral worst raid wide defensive in the whole game

[oblique trail]

Clueless individual speaking

[sullen dove]

💀

he doesn’t know

[supple heath]

Shard, transmitter is bait

[oblique trail]

?

Transmitter is not bait

[sullen dove]

Not you

Oh

[keen kindle]

I mean I'm memeing, I don't even play warrior anymore

[oblique trail]

Legit have to fight Transmitter deniers on cooldown

[sullen dove]

Transmitter good just use somewhere where u can see the ball

[heavy flax]

Wdym no utility, thunderclap applies a 20% slow

[sullen dove]

Hate your life on btoodtwister

[pure moon]

so the buff was too good to be true lol any rotational changes yet?

[oblique trail]

It's not bad on Broodtwister

[heavy flax]

And also when we charge things they stop moving

[hardy cargo]

ive gotten so good at flicking my camera and then pressing my xmitter keybind

[short cobalt]

I cant decide should Is tart with slayaer or thane

[sullen dove]

I mean boss could be like 80% smaller that’s be ideal

[short cobalt]

for mythic +

[oblique trail]

Sure, but you get used to how you spawn Transmitter quite fast after getting it, on a per-fight basis

[sullen dove]

It’s more annoying if you like get a debuff and have to stand on an egg

[hardy cargo]

play whichever you enjoyed more before changes, if you still cant decide flip a coin

[oblique trail]

You just use Transmitter after getting the debuff/web

[short cobalt]

lolol

I like that

[sullen dove]

And choice is either spawn the thing not under boss so you can see it and not be in the middle of the boss the moment shit spawns or go under and yolo

It’s not like a crazy detriment

[supple heath]

yeah getting the jumps or the stand on egg thing makes me not use it ever. fk that

[oblique trail]

The jumps is arguably the easiest one to do???

[sullen dove]

jump is so ez

[calm hemlock]

remove transmitter from your maccro and click it before popping ur cd so you can control where the ball spawn 👍🏼

[sullen dove]

Robot says “jump”

[pure moon]

really pain the day after you swap to dracthyr

lol

im gliding all over the damn place

[molten wing]

go to egg , use Transmitter you have like a second or two to do the task while the adds are being gripped etc anyway

[oblique trail]

I've only accidentally used glide once with the 3x Jump

Just don't spam your jump

[pure moon]

yeah its easy now

[oblique trail]

Unless you need the burst asap, you have plenty of time usually to just do the setup for Transmitter

[supple heath]

probs a skill issue but i find having to dodge ground avoid mechanics in m+ and getting the jumps a total fuck over

[oblique trail]

It's definitely a skill issue

I don't disagree it can be awkward sometimes, but it's certainly by no means a "bait"

[lean wasp]

the orb into a wall is the best

[oblique trail]

If you don't know it already as well, the pad/ball always spawns front right of where your character is facing

[lean wasp]

or off the platform or under the huge ass boss model

or in the lava

[oblique trail]

So you can always turn yourself to place the pad/ball in a good spot depending on the context

[honest karma]

@oblique trail you usinh it in m+ too? I mean I use it on every boss in the raid, but going shard in m+

[sullen dove]

Orb just teleporting through the house wall in dawnbreaker very cool

[oblique trail]

I've used Transmitter since week 1

[sullen dove]

and it just going off into the abyss in grim batol

poggers

[bitter palm]

my condolences

[golden hare]

weird flex...

[supple heath]

yeah id use shard every day of the week in m+

[oblique trail]

Skipped a myth track Khardros and kept using my HC Transmitter instead at one point

[oblique trail]

pls honey..

[lean wasp]

same and i think am regreting it

[oblique trail]

Well I raid mythic

[supple heath]

i got myth khardros this morning

never looking back

[oblique trail]

So I didn't really care if I skipped it or not

[supple heath]

transmitter in the bin

[molten wing]

i mean back in the day a really smart , handsome , sexy warrior which wont be named (Gromnak) said , you always get the loot you deserve in this game

[muted mason]

Thats why I get nothing

[honest karma]

I just end up with some weird situations in between packs or mid packs. I wanna pop and zug

[lean wasp]

how do you know you are gonna get it to drop and win the roll 🙂

it might take months

[oblique trail]

Because I raid in an organised guild?

[lean wasp]

there is also vault but i never take those odds

[hasty tide]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-realistic-timeline-gif-25872288

[lean wasp]

ah good point

but isnt the trinket bis for like a lot of dps

[oblique trail]

I ended up getting it from the vault anyway

It's really good for a lot of DPS specs yeah

[golden hare]

he lied...

[oblique trail]

I'm the only warrior though, so if it did drop, good chance I'd get it since they know it'd always see use

[honest karma]

I don’t see my guild going beyond 4/8, so i wont see mythic transmitter

[molten wing]

i joined a hc raiding guild since i wasn't planning on mythic raiding , transmitter dropped and they gave it to me , then i decided i wanna raid mythic so i left

[daring badge]

uff

[chrome python]

Were the undocumented changes added to Raidbots? I know the documented changes were added.

[oblique trail]

They're all live rn yes

[sage smelt]

are builds updated or still in progress, haven't been able to keep up on chat

[oblique trail]

Including the Fury Execute and 30% MS change

[narrow narwhal]

Banezi go back to anime woman please

[oblique trail]

nyope

[narrow narwhal]

😦
I tried

[chrome python]

💪 thanks! That's awesome

[molten wing]

damn blizz should have buffed CR by 30% instead of MS

[idle ember]

bloodbath 😺

[nimble ermine]

hey

[molten wing]

but if they leave the MS buff i might end up trying arms , haven't touched colossus at all

[oblique trail]

Don't count on it 👍

[pure moon]

someone in the arms chat said blizz confirmed it was unintended

[static rock]

so, besides what archi said, all the other buffs are implemented expected?

[nocturne dragon]

I think so.

[static rock]

nice

[balmy peak]

+10 NW

[static rock]

do we know the new mythic+ build for MT?

[balmy peak]

new build here 🔥

[gusty cloak]

can i see ur dmg breakdown

[oblique trail]

Everything including what's mentioned in the latest update is included

[static rock]

Anyone got a build for slayer MT in raid?

[remote charm]

Have you tried an AM build or RA is just considered superior nowadays?

[balmy peak]

i dont like AM thane

looks weird

[storm birch]

Sikran fury ST testing. Much better than I usually pull. See how mythic goes later tonight compared to my other pulls

[frigid temple]

me either, I think thats the one crit is running but it desyncs so hard

[balmy peak]

tbh the difference is small but RA is much simpler

[somber elk]

thats the build weve been always running^^

[calm perch]

Is the difference between smf and tg massive or just a bit?

[balmy peak]

thats the joke

[strong dew]

So how are we feeling today about thane vs slayer?

[oblique trail]

Roughly 5-6%~

So fairly substantial

[calm perch]

Thank you.

[oblique trail]

Unless you do very casual content and you don't care about the loss

[sterile stratus]

You also have to talent into it which is annoying

[viscid condor]

you got a log for that?

[remote charm]

Any1 simmed Thane ST vs Slayer ST ?

[oblique trail]

#updates-midnight

[storm birch]

Hoping it gets put in soon

I can post when it does

[sterile stratus]

Slayer gonna win that fight.

[viscid condor]

okie ty

[oblique trail]

Slayer is still ahead enough in ST where you'd never play Thane for ST purposes

Though they're a lot closer than they used to be

[blissful delta]

am i high or was lightning dmg supposed to be 30% not 45%

[oblique trail]

Where do you see 45%

[frigid temple]

D:

[viscid condor]

D:

[oblique trail]

The actual change is 30% increased damage

[gloomy needle]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mfYxHk31cV26wPhG#fight=27&type=damage-done
its posted 😉

[strong dew]

So I'm fairly new to playing warrior since putting it down back in legion. So am I correct in kind of assuming that for M+ and silken court you want to run mountain thane and then for everything else in raid you wanna run Slayer ST?

[frigid temple]

Itll be better when I get more myth mastery pieces, but still blows

[raw token]

are there any talent changes for raid? i cant seem to find anyhting about talents

[blissful delta]

undocumented changes on wowhead @oblique trail 1 hour ago

[raw token]

oh

[blissful delta]

50 to 95%

[storm birch]

oh shoot thanks haah i was killing rash real quick hadn't looked

I'm torn between getting new parses for all the bosses and just running my GB to see how solid my m+ dmg is D:

[night relic]

Kinda griefing not going arms on st now right

[storm birch]

Yea but you can't parse fury playing arms

🙂

[thorn smelt]

They nerfing us again already!

[pure moon]

bruh

[lofty delta]

Ffs

[stable frost]

The eye of sauron has returned for another round of beatings

[maiden ingot]

I know it's completely fucking "whatever", but I screamed out loud to myself, almost spit out my food going "WHY? BLIZZARD WHY?"

[thorn smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-jessie-gif-10358434

[lofty delta]

We can't catch a break

[lyric ether]

@edgy widget are builds changing at all or would they remain the same post buffs?

[queen linden]

Stupid game.

[pure moon]

feels like their patch notes are never what they push

[south kayak]

You barely use execute

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-zen-meditation-gif-13277341

[south kayak]

Fellas

Relax

[torpid sand]

Mildly buffing an already useless skill

That is Execute

[queen linden]

Well, also the MS buff nerf

[tulip swallow]

Is there any other spec they tune to single digit precision? It's never 7% always multiples of 5

[storm birch]

Yea I couldn't care less about 3% to execute

[plush maple]

Execute shouldn't be anywhere close to useless imo, it's fucking Execute

[blissful delta]

we're dead again boys i press execute at least twice a fight

[storm birch]

also don't care about MS cause I'm in the fury channel B)

[south kayak]

It was unintended

[hard widget]

xd\

[edgy widget]

it's not even 7% it's only 5.57

[meager anchor]

oh no less on a button you never press

[pure moon]

i play every war spec so im gettin hit at all angles lol

[hard widget]

I mean i kinda giggled when i saw it

[meager anchor]

what will you do

[torpid sand]

We never press execute anyway

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ponke-ponkesol-solana-sol-monke-gif-13632769962241627505

[tender seal]

not really true when you play slayer

[night relic]

Arms does

[plush maple]

Make Execute Great Again

[maiden ingot]

It's the kind of change where you both go "Whatever" and "HUH?" at the same time