#fury

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chilly fractal
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It’s because they can get a 9 year old with a 620 ilvl Ret Pally that’ll do more dam

eternal sundial
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I lost like 5 transmitters

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Across the 30 pulls

smoky vale
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XD

eternal sundial
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Shit rate

hardy cargo
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wat ur twitch ExcitedBlushette

radiant plank
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cant wait for transmitter to die

eternal sundial
inner shadow
eternal sundial
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But i do it turbo rarely

inner shadow
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If i started streaming would yall watch? 🦦 im pretty good imo

coral jewel
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Hi guys, any tips on WA's? I got Afenar Warrior one, TWW spell Reflection. Do we need anyhting elsE?

chilly fractal
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People want to be carried I don’t know what to tell you

hardy cargo
covert void
eager thorn
covert void
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Its the go to vault filler key so

coral jewel
covert void
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its a bit funky sometimes

inner shadow
eager thorn
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Nah 11s is easier to fill vaults ngl

inner shadow
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Don’t go saying n words n shi thats all

eager thorn
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Get humans in 11s not 10s

eternal sundial
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So u can play around em

chilly fractal
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10 Dawnbreaker is my go to for vault

coral jewel
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what do these mean

radiant plank
coral jewel
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;>

eternal sundial
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But tbh

inner shadow
eternal sundial
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Not heard 1 yet

inner shadow
smoky vale
radiant plank
smoky vale
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lmk when you avail

coral jewel
radiant plank
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I have that to stream my wow and spotify sounds

smoky vale
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marked for execution

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sudden death

eager thorn
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Marked for execution, sudden death, ashen juggernaut

coral jewel
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ah ok ty

radiant plank
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Discord comms are perma banned

smoky vale
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^

chrome plover
inner shadow
eager thorn
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I use trackers for thunder blast and burst of power procs too

eternal sundial
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Tho my rl is good content

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He's fun

inner shadow
chrome plover
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my last 2 guilds have been stream safe

inner shadow
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But nope, only 3k mfs

inner shadow
chrome plover
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no EU

radiant plank
eternal sundial
inner shadow
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i see

radiant plank
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Like my old guild on our tindral kill

chrome plover
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must be rare

smoky vale
inner shadow
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It is definitely

eternal sundial
smoky vale
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was beautiful

radiant plank
inner shadow
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I think you need to experience the nordic guilds

chrome plover
inner shadow
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Denmark/swedish/norwegian guilds

radiant plank
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wooow

inner shadow
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It is fucking insanely funny

radiant plank
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dont go excluding finnish guilds

eager thorn
radiant plank
eager thorn
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Finland isnt real

oblique trail
inner shadow
radiant plank
oblique trail
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Speaking from experience

chilly fractal
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I remember watching kill videos from the guild Casually Addicted back in Wrath/Cata… their GM Niksnock loved to drop the hard R when killing a boss

inner shadow
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Your definition *

oblique trail
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I don't think racist jokes are fun

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So it rules out 99% of them

inner shadow
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your opinion, good

eager thorn
# radiant plank fuck

The population of finland is under the margin of error for worldwide population census

radiant plank
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not this one again

oblique trail
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I'd hope it's more than just my opinion

eager thorn
inner shadow
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Cuz 99% of them wouldn’t say a thing irl

eager thorn
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“Gaming” racism

oblique trail
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Doesn't surprise me at all coming from you 👍

radiant plank
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pewdiepie bridge incident

eager thorn
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You mean racism

radiant plank
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gamer words

chrome plover
muted dune
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Hi, is the Slayer AM Build exaclty the same as the MT AM Build that Critcake uses?

chrome plover
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I just cringe these days

inner shadow
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If u keep spamming n word n shi i get it cringe ye

chrome plover
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0 thought or intelligence behind them

eager thorn
inner shadow
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But if u have some actual comedic intellect about it thats another tuing

inner shadow
eager thorn
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Can’t believe we’re defending racism in skyhold today

inner shadow
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Idk you crack some racist joke or dark whatever its fine, as long as you are not targeting anyone

radiant plank
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Warrior moment

inner shadow
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Until it isn’t personal/targeted idm

radiant plank
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Name one non racist warrior from sweden ( you cant)

eternal sundial
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@chrome plover opinion on calling ppl that arent scouses scouses

inner shadow
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HAHAHAHA

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Name one non racist swedish

eager thorn
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I get called a scouser by ppl and its not cool

inner shadow
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Fucks a scouser?

chilly fractal
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This convo has certainly gone off the rails a bit

hardy cargo
eager thorn
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A person from liverpool

eternal sundial
gaunt sonnet
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just checking in on Fury discord... oh cool, racism

inner shadow
chrome plover
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especially funny coming from a foreigner and not another english person

smoky vale
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🙂

burnt kelp
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So you all against bigotry but the second I mention being french

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all hell breaks lose

burnt kelp
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double standard

visual rose
chrome plover
livid marsh
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wth did i get back to

chrome plover
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just a thought

inner shadow
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When i say EU i mean whole of eu except UK/english cnts

eager thorn
oblique trail
eternal sundial
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Ei ei ei

chrome plover
sinful orbit
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What did this conversation turn into

inner shadow
eternal sundial
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You are cringe

gaunt sonnet
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name is Zen, has a cute dog as their PFP, but thinks there are "intellectual" ways to say racist words 🤔

chrome plover
gaunt sonnet
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and those jokes are made using...

eternal sundial
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Jokes formed with words

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Incredible

chrome plover
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inferior member of society

inner shadow
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If u say words you mean straight up n word or

radiant plank
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Europeans agree that racism is not okay untill its gypsies

sinful orbit
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Shinji crank that Soulja boy

inner shadow
eager thorn
gaunt sonnet
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guy justifies racism because he is used to it in CSGO lobbies

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good stuff

eager thorn
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Thinks the person who sees racism as bad needs to get a grip on life

inner shadow
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@radiant plank i defended a local gypsy from some racist tourists, next day he stole my fucking amazon package cant make this shit up

eager thorn
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Doesnt that mean you had to go outside cos doubt on that 1

inner shadow
radiant plank
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I think in general being a fury main promotes racism

oblique trail
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Right think the convo has also ran its course

inner shadow
inner shadow
radiant plank
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no

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Arms is chill

inner shadow
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The whole lore was fighting orcs

sour stirrup
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Racism is okay if it gets me top dps

inner shadow
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green mfs

burnt kelp
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alright now you are going too far

warm crag
inner shadow
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Thats racist

burnt kelp
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warrior players are many things

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but the real racist class is paladin

warm crag
burnt kelp
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or demonh hunter

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those guys are unhinged

inner shadow
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Demoj hunter is twink shit

eternal sundial
inner shadow
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yall know you don’t need to openly express your opinions

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Go your whole way out to say oh i dont like you like x

oblique trail
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You don't need to either

inner shadow
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it wouldn’t change their mind tho

oblique trail
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But you certainly like to

inner shadow
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I never said anything on someone’s opin

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Opinion, i firmly believe each one has its own

eternal sundial
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Can you please stop sharing yours

eager thorn
winter compass
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How we feeling about the buffs on Tuesday? Ran a few decent keys this weekend with an overall of 1.5-1.8. We are no enh shamans, but I feel like we will be sitting in a good spot.

hardy cargo
radiant plank
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Big buffs

eager thorn
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Why is ur pfp randy testicles

burnt kelp
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cuz we all wish we had the same pair

sour stirrup
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Better than before but lets see if the patch introduces some bugs that fuck it all up

chilly fractal
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Smoking weed in front of a cop

burnt kelp
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man what great testicles

sinful orbit
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Those are just average warrior ballz

hardy cargo
eternal sundial
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It's a good episode

eager thorn
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He gave himself cancer tho right

winter compass
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About the only mentality we can have as warrior mains fam, if you don't. You are the issue haha.

eager thorn
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Balls in the microwave or smth

chilly fractal
radiant plank
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Phil will you be resubbing

hardy cargo
winter compass
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I cant think of a better Warrior main pic...

radiant plank
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also do I regret crafting 636 ele weapon

eternal sundial
chilly fractal
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Certainly one of the best Randy episodes… my personal favorite Randy episode is The Losing Edge when he gets into drunk fights at little league games

chrome plover
arctic raft
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Have there been any build or rotational changes as a result of the buffs?

hardy cargo
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ppl still cookin

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allow them some more time

chilly fractal
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Can’t pull shit out of the oven too early

frank dawn
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I prefer to not ever pull shit out of the oven tbh

green ivy
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I prefer my chicken medium rare

terse meadow
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hey guys are there any ... tips on how to choose which one is better ... or is there like "if u want to push st pick y for mt pick y " ?

oblique trail
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Typically Powerful is the better option, though in ST they're both very close to each other

hardy cargo
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if playing AM or ST reckless abandon I play frenzied, in keys with RA I play powerful, not sure if its optimal but it feels the best to me

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(not a good metric)

warm crag
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just stick to powerful

terse meadow
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thy thy for all the responds

warm crag
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walk faster

eager thorn
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Full movespeed enchants and gems too

restive peak
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I play frenzied for AM and it’s necessary to get the CDs down to 30s

eager thorn
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Go zoom

restive peak
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Otherwise PE in better

livid burrow
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Are the changes live already?

narrow narwhal
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No

oblique trail
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On reset they are

chrome plover
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after reset they will already be live

radiant plank
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Cant wait to play Colossus arms with my overbuffed cleave ability

sly bobcat
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What are the chances we go to spamming bloodthirsty 3-4x in a row when the thane thing procs to fish for claps since strike and another bloodthirsty dmg buff 🤔

knotty lotus
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seems unlikely

hard widget
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In AM u can do this

eager thorn
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Ye with am you can but you wanna make sure you rampage when you can

knotty lotus
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this seems like the part that could find some new nuance with the buffs

eager thorn
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My dg overalls already have bt very close to ramp in dmg

winter shoal
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In general we weren't really using opportunist after the nerf anyways

hard widget
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I can say with 99% certainty that u wont skip out on BB anymore and since u dont really play oppertunist either

winter shoal
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And with BB/BT buff you'll almost certainly be using fierce

hard widget
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I think bt/rb will be close

winter shoal
lethal swallow
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i just started my fury warrior get it to 80 a few days ago is there a BIG difference in terms of dps between singel minded fury vs titans grip ?

eternal canopy
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yes

knotty lotus
winter shoal
lethal swallow
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well shit

smoky vale
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its your sub

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not mine

fading sky
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This

winter shoal
lethal swallow
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yeh i learned that i should be in arms spec for loot its annoying lessen to learn though when you get to really decent 1 handed weapons ah well

fading sky
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1h is good for prot

verbal rivet
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I play in fury loot just bc I need a hero prot weapon

lethal swallow
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yeh it decent for prot i just dont enjoy prot or arms is all

verbal rivet
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I am enjoying the clappa.

light chasm
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are legion assaults soloable? I dont remember doing ANY group content when i did breaching the tomb (did this achieve for the first time last year) but now my friend is doing it and says he can't complete without a group for the assaults

fickle bluff
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unless they changed it in 11.0.5, no

verbal rivet
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Might be mechanics that stop it

fickle bluff
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theres no mechanics

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you just need 2 other people to be in queue

verbal rivet
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OH IS THIS THE INVASION/WQ ZONE THING?

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Nvm, the 3 man scenarios

shell wigeon
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What you doin that for

fickle bluff
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appearances

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7.2 questline if you havent done it already

shell wigeon
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Ah right quest line

livid marsh
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so stupid that you cant convert your carved crests into runed and then into gilded when you hit the cap on runed

gaunt sonnet
south kayak
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YO

verbal rivet
livid marsh
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exactly

verbal rivet
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If I didn’t need like 400 gildeds for cap, I’d be more upset at it. But they are very useless

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And that’s only bc farming 8s is taxing on the mental health

knotty lotus
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queuing for them as fury is more taxing than the dungeons

fervent yoke
knotty lotus
gaunt sonnet
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what's the latest, most accurate prio list or APL we should be using?

hard widget
knotty lotus
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I'm not a voice of authority and it's changing tomorrow. I mostly play casual now

hard widget
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But its gonna be fairly similar

gaunt sonnet
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where do you look to find out @hard widget ?

hard widget
livid marsh
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god damn man approaching the 100 apply mark without an invite critcake

eager thorn
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only 100

hard widget
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I did some napkin math for my guide

livid marsh
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i just started around 20 minutes ago

dull compass
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alright

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i know this is an unfair generalization

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but just let me say it

eager thorn
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no

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you cant!

dull compass
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when my fellow EU players see russian names join a mythic party does your confidence in the run go up or down?

ember apex
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up, im NA tho and i never encounter this

eager thorn
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i dont care about it cos i know that not only russians use the cyrillic alphabet

dull compass
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yes of course

ember apex
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maybe we should start using it here in NA. don't they have backward letters?

dull compass
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I have just been inted all day long and there is a definite trend

fickle cedar
dull compass
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see this guy has had the experience i just had today haha

livid marsh
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thats like every group tho

eager thorn
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ye that is just every group

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run goes smooth or you wipe 1st pull and leave

dull compass
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nah i have a ton of medium runs

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that just have a few hiccups

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and we get through anyway

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when they other two DDs are below the prot tank though

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on a +4 im trying to farm for runed crests

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feelsbadman

ember apex
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+4

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a plus 4

dull compass
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yeah man

eager thorn
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that is what they said

livid marsh
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just do 7s

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might be easier

dull compass
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that would be decent gameplay tbf

livid marsh
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i had good success on my hunter doing 7s while farming hero track gear

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but that was on hunter so idk

dull compass
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atleast one person

livid marsh
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definitely not catching them on my warr tho

dull compass
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haha

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I also just started a hunter too though because of this

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🤫

livid marsh
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sv hunter is fun currently

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dont know what they did with BM but they also seem very good now on dps meters

dull compass
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well they were bugged

oblique thistle
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Talking about alts in fury chat... What have we become

dull compass
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so i guess fixed them

oblique thistle
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Tomorrow can't come soon enough

livid marsh
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it is what it is

dull compass
verbal rivet
oblique thistle
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Tbf I did make a priest just to shake things up and have been enjoying getting invited instantly to every key I apply to

livid marsh
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ayy 100 without an invite

gaunt sonnet
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why do we prio BB/BT in AoE but CB/RB in ST?

eager thorn
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reap the storm/thunder blast procs

oblique trail
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Reap the Storm/Thunder Blast has higher chance to proc in AoE

near wing
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I stopped pushing keys as fury. Couldn’t get into 12s. Started tanking and it’s literally insta invite. I don’t think tomorrow is going to really change that. We just don’t bring enough utility, and our upgraded dps will make us on par with most dps, but I don’t think we’ll be top

near wing
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I could be completely wrong, and hope so, just my limited observation based on someone trying to push into 12s

nocturne dragon
eager thorn
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if you wanna get in 12s the easiest just do your own keys

gaunt sonnet
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to play regular M+ without playing an ever-meta spec (i.e. Mage, Aug) you need to find a group of friends and agree to push together regardless of what you play

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it is the only way

boreal cairn
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i mean thats not a warrior thing, every class that can tank is going to get in easier as a tank lol

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except MAYBE dk atm

livid marsh
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prot warrior being pretty good isnt doing fury a favor too

nocturne dragon
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well I think with warrior getting "OH it's stronk tank alongside bear" ppl are picking warrior more compared to other tank too.

signal peak
near wing
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Yea, I don’t mean easy vs not easy. I literally can’t get picked up into a 12. I’ve applied for hours, and never a single look.

near wing
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630 ilvl, 2700 io - I’ve just accepted that warrior isn’t first choice in a pug 12

eager thorn
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think its just to do with how many of ur spec has done that key level its not really performative

livid marsh
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going stronk

nocturne dragon
near wing
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Yes sorry

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lol

nocturne dragon
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you apply as tank ppl gonna be "OH THANK GOD We got prot warrior applying."

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instead of those unknown DH or Brew

sullen dove
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I think at least not sure how tank was pulling

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if slower smaller packs vs bigger quicker ones

fervent yoke
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Tomorrow we are back right bois?

cold silo
eager thorn
livid marsh
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should have just leveld a shaman once i saw the 11.0.5 rework

fervent yoke
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Dmannn

narrow narwhal
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FOTM btfo

cold silo
signal peak
fervent yoke
cold silo
livid marsh
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just go ele or resto

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plenty of options as shaman

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also BL is a big point too

fervent yoke
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Ele got like a 40% nerf no?

cold silo
sullen dove
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Obv you won’t see like 3mil overalls in mdi keys or anything but I think it’s pretty reasonable to hit around the 1.5-1.8 maybe even close to 2mil overalls in some dungeons if tank gets a little saucy >:)

livid marsh
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1.3m on a GB is a 95?

sullen dove
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I guess

livid marsh
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i average around 1.3 to 1.4 on most keys, maybe i should start logging

sullen dove
near wing
signal peak
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Also details inflates your DPS if you didnt know, it's always larger in the damage meter than the logs.

sullen dove
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There are certain things that can make that happen yeah but that’s not like an “always truth”

signal peak
sullen dove
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like evoker bombardments and breath of eons and stuff shows up as your dps on details and not on logs

livid marsh
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have no reference, never uploaded a m+ log

sullen dove
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and maybe other classes do that stuff

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But you could try to see like which abilities are doing less dmg and which mobs they’re on to maybe see why there’s a diff if there is one, like not sure if it counts the dragon breath bombs on your details dmg

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and it wouldn’t on logs for example, just a guess

signal peak
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Truth

eager thorn
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Evokers ruining everything

livid marsh
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well its difficult to decide who gets the attributed damage, like sure, you trigger certain damage from other players debuffs/buffs but if you are not actively doing something you wont trigger them in the first place

sullen dove
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eh yea but def not your damage even when you do, which like should be held accountable for all of those buffs but some are literally impossible

signal peak
sullen dove
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Like I don’t think there’s any possible way you could calculate the impact of pi on a class that like gets insane value from more haste to get more globals in a cd window and how much more resources you get with extra haste and all that

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which is part of why aug stays the hell away from buffing haste cuz mainstat and damage is pretty easy to say “ok it did this much”

livid marsh
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what the heck?

sullen dove
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I think crit is a little weirder but fortunately it’s only 3% so not crazy

livid marsh
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oh well im done wasting time trying to find a group

nocturne dragon
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then what did you do mouretsu?

barren grail
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How many % is SMF worses then regular 2x2H?

eager thorn
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Prob like 5-8

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It’s viable but ur trolling ur dmg

queen linden
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You're trolling if you're using smf

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Would be cool to have it = TG in the future

livid marsh
nocturne dragon
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the problem is not just dps isn't it? less stamina too

gaunt moat
eager thorn
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Does anyone have times for ovinax mechs so i can make an mrt note

dark frost
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do we know if we get BRC loot from vault?

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BRD

livid marsh
eager thorn
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Ty

faint flame
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eager thorn
livid marsh
hard widget
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If you dont play titanic rage you have to reck charge ramp

faint flame
hard widget
faint flame
eager thorn
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I unsubbed to counter it

livid marsh
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didnt sub in the first place to be net neutral

hard widget
orchid dagger
potent granite
queen tapir
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jev you have to realise that even people with 2.7k io do not get invited to +10's atm

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its ridiculous

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they will take anyoen but you

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if any class within that party finder is something better you are not getting in

livid marsh
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dont bother with him, its just all our skill issue

queen tapir
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you are going to be gas lit right there not even denied

hard widget
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I just did an 11 on my 2.7k mage

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Not having issues

queen tapir
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yes thats the thing

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you will geti n as a mage

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its not even possible as a warrior atm

kindred hearth
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Warrior just brings 0 to the table unless you run on a team

eager thorn
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I get in 10s np at 2.7k

kindred hearth
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as a team warrior is sick

queen tapir
kindred hearth
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as a pug warrior is garbo

cunning sentinel
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I wake up at like 6 AM before the family wakes up just to get some Mythics in, much easier to find groups in the early hours when there aren't a lot of other competition for spots

hard widget
hasty tide
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2.7k io warrior here, tbh it is super easy to get 10s imo. It's 12s+ nobody wants you lol

eager thorn
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I even dragged my 2000 io friend into some 10s

hard widget
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The only issue is that ur competing with a lot of people trying to fill their vault

oblique trail
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Just be 634 and you'll get invites (somewhat) easily 👍

queen tapir
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the thing is if at any moment you try to join a grim batol +10 you will not get invited its plain and simple no matter how hard you try. That 1 shaman is getting in before you or that 1 pala or that 1 rogue

oblique trail
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But even then I've been declined to +9s despite this 👍

hard widget
oblique trail
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So would I do the same to you

young swan
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although i am kind of hard capped at 11's

hasty tide
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You get declined, that's part of life. Post your own key and see how many people you don't invite lol

hard widget
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Im glad we'd decline eachother Banezi

young swan
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people do NOT take me for 12s

eager thorn
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Ye 12 is just the breakpoint

hard widget
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12's is where the issue gets very clean yea

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11->12

maiden ingot
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I'm genuinely curious if some of you guys have this dramatic view of getting into Keys after getting rejected once or if this is actually like a long-term pattern. I literally stop at 10 because M+ past that point might as well not even exist for me and the amount of issue there is getting into 10's is nonexistant.

queen tapir
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man you know what the issue is right? its the fucking tier lists

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this shit is toxic

hard widget
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If u got 12's timed like 2-3 it becomes easier again tho

queen tapir
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Fuck this games community in general tbh

hasty tide
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Although I did pug a 12 dawnbreaker in time last night

eager thorn
#

If i could time one 12 id be able to be a 2731 io gamer

queen tapir
#

if youa re doing 200k less dps than the the top tier class oh shit you are F in the tier list

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my bad we cant time this

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you wont get invited to a +!2

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🤣

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its a joke man

hard widget
#

People just dont invite any class that hasnt timed atleast some 12's (into a 12) because the gap is still decently big between 11 and 12

queen tapir
#

its a genuinely a joke

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at this point

hasty tide
#

Yea it's pretty wild how many Randoms still do mechanics wrong in 12s

hard widget
#

My advice, do ur own key till you did atleast 2 or 3 +12's then it should be loads easier to get picked since ur competing with A LOT of people that got all 11's

hasty tide
#

Expecting the healer to do barrels on last boss dawnbreaker

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Kind of dumb shit

gaunt moat
maiden ingot
queen tapir
#

I mean snap I do barrels and i am looking at my ranged cucks just sitting behind doing fuck all nothing

gaunt moat
#

i could afk for an hour and would at most get another dps tagging

hard widget
eager thorn
#

I had someone lust the ship phase of rashanan in an 11

queen tapir
#

I mean thats fine no ?

hard widget
queen tapir
#

its the longer phase

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so its doesnt matter

hard widget
#

The boss dies at 60% regardless

queen tapir
#

make the phase shorter

hard widget
#

The phase doesnt get shorter

eager thorn
#

Wouldn’t you want to stay there tho cos that part is easier

hard widget
#

They changed how it works

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The boss dies at 60% regardless of what u do anywhere

eager thorn
#

Ah

hard widget
#

Previously it had "breakpoints" to where it would die

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But now u can do w/e u like

queen tapir
#

ahh yeah you are right

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i get what you mean

#

anyways cant wait for the next tier list to dictate our entrance into m+

nimble kraken
#

My eyes are telling me the updates channel says buffs, but my soul doesn’t believe it. Congratulations we’ve weathered the storm

hard widget
queen tapir
#

unfortunately they do

eager thorn
#

I dont

queen tapir
#

yes you dont

hard widget
#

Time to make a tierlist clueless

queen tapir
#

any one with a brain wouldnt

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but this community doesnt

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🤣

gaunt moat
#

so they invite us more

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🙏

eager thorn
#

Tww patch note tier list and every patch with fury nerf is S+

south kayak
#

how do you play korrak's revenge

hasty tide
#

Last boss dawnbreaker is a heal and dps iq check

eager thorn
#

I actually really enjoy rashanan

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Fun lil fight

gaunt moat
eager thorn
#

And its cool they made him a raid boss

hasty tide
#

Cause leap makes it easy

queen tapir
#

btw why didnt ret get any nerfs and we got slammed in 4 weeks is something I will always be in awe about

hasty tide
#

Leap to barrel, charge back

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2ez

queen tapir
#

ret is giga broken beyond belief but I guess they dont see the problem

eager thorn
#

P sure ret did get nerfed

signal peak
#

Balancing for DPS should be done based on utility you provide the group. The less utility the greater the throughput.

hardy cargo
#

ret got -3% the week we got target cap nerf

eager thorn
#

^

queen tapir
#

yeah -3% is uhhh

#

yeah..

hard widget
#

FOR M+ / AOE

eager thorn
#

Theres a difference between no nerf and you not thinking the nerf is very effective though

hasty tide
#

Ret is better for m+ but that gap will be small after tomorrow

hard widget
hasty tide
#

More overall, and damage immunities are pog

queen tapir
#

just saying a class that has full burst giga every pack is kidna crazy no ?

hard widget
#

We can do the "same" as ret if we talent AM, but do more ST dmg

hasty tide
#

Really? Ret that runs with critcake always does alot more imo

hard widget
#

U wont find those in lfg

hasty tide
#

And crit? Lil

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Apples to apples

clever escarp
#

ye thought the same xD

livid marsh
#

qrva?

queen tapir
#

I mean its very good ret vs very good warr

#

like I mean

#

if you compare damage profile of both

clever escarp
#

its even

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and he gaps

hard widget
#

U guys dont get that its not a VS type of deal

clever escarp
#

its fact

hard widget
#

They work together to time the key

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Crit even talented out of more AOE to gain more ST

clever escarp
#

saw crit complain xD

livid marsh
#

i think ret is pretty easy to play, im sure many could do similar dps with the same gear

eager thorn
#

everything is easy

hasty tide
#

If you want more ST bring a mage lol

hard widget
#

Timing keys isnt just about overall dmg, its about making the most out of your group to do it the fastest. If Crit does more ST because they got AOE covered, it can speed up the key

clever escarp
#

maybe currently yea but he was showing some details to compare aswell and said there was a gap

hard widget
hasty tide
#

Each dungeon has a total health pool and going through that health pool the most efficient way possible

hard widget
#

Run 3 assa rogues and u wont time any key

livid marsh
#

the gap is quite obvious especially in overall

hard widget
#

Overall doesnt time u keys

clever escarp
#

yea thats a fact ik

hasty tide
#

Unless there is a ST gatekeeper

clever escarp
#

but point was overall

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if we talk about everything of course our st is big

hard widget
#

Yeah but overall is not the determining factor to time keys

clever escarp
#

yea ik

queen tapir
#

going to point out that rets ST with m+ talents is still higher than us btw

hasty tide
#

And ST is?

clever escarp
#

but the topic was overall gap xD

#

more or less they are not gapping us in beeing useful

queen tapir
#

if that adds anything to the convo..

clever escarp
#

depends

queen tapir
#

and they are not even melee

#

🤣

hasty tide
#

We are slightly better than rets in ST while m+ builds

clever escarp
#

fury can skill stronger into st

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than ret can

queen tapir
#

depends on the build zidia

hard widget
#

Yeah but this is the problem with the perception of M+, everyone thinks that bigger numbers = better. Meanwhile i have played keys almost full ST just so the packs die faster and more equal while gaining boss dmg for the sole purpose to be faster. Why? Because warrior can do more ST while maintaining decent AOE while other classes lose loads more. SInce ur giga packed on AOE anyways nowadays with Assa / FDK / Enha etc

queen tapir
#

ret can either go giga aoe

clever escarp
#

without losing lot of aoe

queen tapir
#

or giga aoe with some st

dull compass
#

finally wild hammer dropped

hasty tide
#

Ret can just access their aoe cds so much faster than us

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Zero drop off in packs

dull compass
#

lord be blessed

clever escarp
livid marsh
#

dungeons are a mix of st, aoe and priority damage aoe, in an ideal situation, the overall damage should be quite close within each dps specc, the fact that fury gets gapped so hard still is incredible imo

hasty tide
#

Staying alive > mechanics > overall dps > priority dps

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Is how I look at keys

queen tapir
#

yeah if you get that 1 dude who is dying every other pack

livid marsh
#

definitely

queen tapir
#

your key is gone

clever escarp
#

nah prio is more important

hard widget
manic tapir
clever escarp
#

that what jeventes says

hasty tide
#

If that was the case, bm hunters would be king lol

hardy cargo
dull compass
#

love when the prot pal demands we roll over my bis item

#

after scuffing the dungeon run anyway hehehe

hard widget
clever escarp
#

yep xD

hard widget
#

As long as u just dont die every 5 seconds

hardy cargo
#

Ya I know that’s what I’m saying lol

queen tapir
#

Jeventes you havent seen the sub humans in m+ I assume

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there are some god forsaken people that can be called unhinged gamer words

hard widget
queen tapir
#

that cant for the life of them press buttons

hardy cargo
#

And to be clear I’m not flaming anyone, it’s just that mindset does not even need to occur for the VAST majority of players

hard widget
#

Most people think i play in a team, i dont. I play solo

queen tapir
#

and you know the most fucked part btw

hard widget
#

I face all the issues every one of you face every day as well

queen tapir
#

listen up

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end of dungeon he ends up blaming the healer or tank

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some how

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no one but themselves

winged sail
#

guys where i can find Critcake UI?

queen tapir
#

🤣

clever escarp
#

yea but we dont need to argue about dps in (lower) keys

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its just who doesnt die and got more aoe burst

hard widget
clever escarp
#

or the class is shitt xD

hard widget
#

Good players reflect upon themselves, not find excuses to why they cant progress

clever escarp
#

mindset of course

queen tapir
#

keys are lovely man

hard widget
#

(not saying that our class isnt holding us back till a certain degree tho)

clever escarp
#

nah i ment your right

livid marsh
#

fury is shit sadly critcake

queen tapir
#

I mean the community is holding us back thats for sure

hasty tide
clever escarp
#

its mindset of reflecting and class thinking

clever escarp
#

ppl instantly go ape if there class isnt first

queen tapir
hard widget
#

I dont care if im bottom, as long as we time keys fast

shut parcel
clever escarp
#

thats it

livid marsh
#

i dont even want to be first, i just dont want to be last by a landslide with 0 group utility

hard widget
#

And next week fury Prio is gonna be goated, and we'll be very very viable

hasty tide
#

I wanna be top dps and time the key lol

clever escarp
#

kekw

hasty tide
#

But my brain is smooth as velvet

queen tapir
#

I remember when you play well as a fury its doesnt matter what class is in the tier list

#

of you are substantially better than X player

oblique trail
queen tapir
#

you are up there

hasty tide
#

Since warrior utility is so bad, I feel obligated to bring the big dam

clever escarp
#

yikes

hard widget
hasty tide
#

Tell that to shaman healers

hard widget
#

Only thing thats nice to have is buffs and shroud

clever escarp
#

and we have some decent util

#

stuns and cry is not that bad

queen tapir
#

did you guys see that 1 post on twitter about the r druid who gets invited flamed than kicked

#

man o man

livid marsh
#

cry keks

jolly matrix
#

Cry is bad

hard widget
#

We have rally and Bshout, we're fine on "util" since stops are made irrelevant

clever escarp
#

you cant compare a fury to ret in util of course xD

#

but we are completly fine

hasty tide
#

Our "cd" does less than static health plus of shaman puddles lol

oblique trail
hard widget
hard widget
#

So are all these other utilities

#

Sac is worthless untill u need it to not get fcked

clever escarp
#

just bop xD

hasty tide
#

Alot of them take pressure off pug healers imo

queen tapir
#

just saying dk's AMZ is a 2 minute cool down

#

🤷‍♂️

hasty tide
#

Good group defensives are amazing

hard widget
queen tapir
#

yeah spell reflect is a self defensive

hasty tide
#

Group utility > self utility

queen tapir
#

not a save your ass button

hard widget
queen tapir
#

save your group button*

hasty tide
#

Warriors themselves are obviously tanky af

hard widget
#

It barely does anything

queen tapir
#

no AMZ

#

anti magic zone

#

jeventeza

hasty tide
#

We survive everything

queen tapir
#

anti magic zone

hard widget
#

AMZ is also garbage

#

It does barely anything as dps

#

If ur playing BDK its okay

queen tapir
#

how is AMZ garbage 🤣 ?

hard widget
#

But as a frost, ur AMZ is dog

queen tapir
#

I am confused explain how AMZ is garbage you are substantially better player than I am in m+. But that is just senseless.

hard widget
#

Because AMZ is based on total hp and versa

#

Its overrated if u play dps

jolly matrix
#

Isn't it based on AP?

queen tapir
#

1 sec

#

ima take a pic for him

oblique trail
#

It's not based on AP no

#

But FDK inherently just doesn't want Versatility

livid marsh
#

last time i checked it had 20% magic dr

queen tapir
#

20% mdr 9.4mil magic damage

jolly matrix
#

Ah okay, thought it was AP for some reason

oblique trail
#

It's an ok external but not super impressive

hard widget
livid marsh
#

but saying rally is fine and calling amz garbage is quite wild

lean heart
#

yeh they gutted that back in CN didnt they

gleaming siren
#

DPS Amzs are pretty good in M+ and a lot worse in raid

hard widget
#

U care about not getting one tapped

clever escarp
#

10+ max hp is strong

night relic
#

Ams is great but amz is whatever

livid marsh
#

20% dr > 10% hp

hard widget
#

Its only magical dr

jolly matrix
#

Anyway if you want to talk about self sustain/utility watch crits stream from last night on his DK, where he's surviving without a healer through Shamorak and breaking the shield as the only DPS. It was slightly insane

hard widget
#

And untill consumed

livid marsh
#

most AoE from bosses is magic

gleaming siren
queen tapir
#

80% of these dungeons AOE is magic

gleaming siren
#

It's a good Dungeon tool

clever escarp
#

dk is selfsustain king of course

#

its there thing

gleaming siren
#

It's a very mediocre raid ability

livid marsh
#

tought we were talking about m+

clever escarp
#

dk is diffrent atm xD

livid marsh
#

not raid

queen tapir
#

like only dung I can think of that has phys aoe is 1st boss of grim batol and siege

oblique trail
#

In M+ you can use it as an external for certain mechanics if people need it

queen tapir
#

cant think of anything else atp

oblique trail
#

And it can save someone

hard widget
#

Dont get me wrong, AMZ is fine but its a lot more overrated than people think

oblique trail
#

But it will not necessarily be a game changer

gleaming siren
#

AMZ is great if you have one group member that needs an external

#

If they can afford to stand in it

hard widget
#

Artificially being able to inflate hp regardless of position, etc imo is better

gleaming siren
#

If only Inspiring Presence (low pickrate talent, you wouldn't remember) still existed...

oblique trail
#

Would be really cool if we somehow got an extra 5% increased HP and longer duration to our rally wouldn't it

queen tapir
#

i am curious

eternal sundial
#

nah why would that be cool

#

no one would use it over pain and gain

queen tapir
#

how 10% increase in hp is comparable to amz

eternal sundial
#

2.5% HP heal

hard widget
#

Because hp > dr

livid marsh
oblique trail
queen tapir
#

technically you give about on average to 5 people 700k hp

#

thats 700k*5 absorb

#

^ technically

eager thorn
eternal sundial
#

crazy

queen tapir
#

compared to 20% mdr with my shit 615 dk 9.4mil absorb

eager thorn
#

they really nerfing everything

queen tapir
#

hmm

hard widget
#

Okay, lemme put it like this. There is only 3 places i can think of that give decent value of AMZ.

  • First boss NW it cant be decent to save someone
  • Stonevault Skarmorak intermission
  • Dawn Rashanan acid thingy
#

Sorry 4

queen tapir
#

COT 3rd boss

hard widget
#

CoT 2nd boss

#

3rd is meh because its hard to stack in it

#

Since it overlaps with other mechanics

queen tapir
#

depends on how you are doing orbs but yes I see what you eman

#

4th boss of grim as well

hard widget
#

No

#

Because u need to spread

#

And the other mechanic cant really kill u

sullen dove
#

4th boss grim doesn’t do anything doe just break shield chatting

eager thorn
#

what shield

hard widget
#

Swordfish is imagining things xd

queen tapir
#

2nd boss grim as well

#

arakara 1st boss

hard widget
#

all these things

#

Are kind of w/e type of deals

#

If u press 1 button u live

lavish beacon
hard widget
#

the things im talking about are "actually dangerous" things

queen tapir
#

but arent these dangerous in the keys you do

#

in 15's ?

#

14's / 15''s*

hard widget
#

Its a nice bonus

#

But not really needed no

queen tapir
#

interesting well I am just an observer at that point

hard widget
#

Basically the only problems u cant really solve are one shots

glad coyote
#

SO with tomorrows changes any talent changes as well?

hard widget
#

And inflating ur hp counters one shots

#

Like siege, ur only issue is not dieing

winter shoal
hard widget
#

To being one tapped

livid marsh
#

DR also inflates your hp pool

coarse nest
#

Thane AM tomorrow probably

eager thorn
jolly matrix
#

Swap pain and gain with endurance training and make it a one point talent and I'll be happier RE one shots

hard widget
#

NW ur only issue is not getting 1 tapped

hard widget
frank rover
#

heyo

eager thorn
#

i kinda enjoy siege ngl

queen tapir
#

thing is mouretsu mdr is so niche in these dungeons its wild

frank rover
#

any warrior turboiq theory crafter

hard widget
#

Yeah tbh, as warrior its pretty chill

livid marsh
#

i said dr

frank rover
#

is it evne worth it to put different color gems in our sockets

eager thorn
#

its just a new dg for me so i don't have ptsd of it in the past

oblique trail
#

You can just sim it

#

In top gear

eager thorn
#

^

coarse nest
#

I do different gems cause I want the speed

frank rover
#

speed?

hard widget
#

Thats not a 1 shot

coarse nest
#

Speed meta gem ye

hard widget
#

Holy, he deleted that fast

eager thorn
jolly matrix
eager thorn
#

and a lot of the time more speed = more uptime = more dps

winter shoal
eager thorn
#

i think the speed gem was like 4k less dps on a sim for me

hard widget
#

RA thane is better in a perfect world

eager thorn
#

but +8% ms

hard widget
#

But AM allows for more flexibility

#

But a lot of people are struggeling with their cds desyncing on AM

queen tapir
#

its the 1 thing I dont get about cd desyncing in AM

#

the people who complain about that are usually doing m+ as well

#

it was always pop

#

and never hold

eager thorn
#

idt am is that bad in m+ as long as you dont die or have downtime

hard widget
#

Well yes and no Ben

queen tapir
#

unless 10s avatar

coarse nest
#

Reck/Ravager every 30 seconds is pretty sweet

hard widget
#

Its a bit more in depth

#

Since more buttons desync nowadays

coarse nest
#

And no OF since they nuked that ability

livid marsh
#

AM loses value if you start to hold

coarse nest
#

Easy playstyle high APM

hard widget
#

It depends on a few factors

#

Mostly being the amount of total useages you are getting

#

Or anticipated downtime etc

queen tapir
#

yeah brother i am warrior

coarse nest
#

It will most likely be the same where you can play witch ever you prefer

queen tapir
#

onyl thing i am calculating is my fingers pressing the button

hard widget
#

Kekw

queen tapir
#

anticipate ddown time wtf

#

play a mage at that point

#

🤣

frank rover
hard widget
#

U'd be surprised how much more dmg u can squeeze by thinking ahead @queen tapir

frank rover
#

and its the only time it felt good

queen tapir
#

just saying I found success pressing buttons on cd

#

there is some thinking obviously

#

between packs

hard widget
#

Oh yeah it works for sure

queen tapir
#

but yes I see what you mkean

eager thorn
hard widget
#

Make it a fun personal challenge, see how much more u can squeeze ^^

eager thorn
#

gonna feel nicer after buffs go live

frank rover
#

it feels like piss in m+

hard widget
#

Fun extra minigame

eager thorn
#

idk not for me

frank rover
#

u have cooldowns but they do very little damage

hard widget
#

I like AM slayer a lot

frank rover
#

slayer also desyncs bladestorm even more

hard widget
eternal sundial
#

more casts more good

hard widget
#

However probably no uproar anymore coming week with Reap buffs

#

Anlaki

frank rover
#

avatar feels the worst

#

i wish AM reduced avatar cd as well

livid marsh
#

well with slayer you can just send as many bladestorms as possible

#

it goes down to like 30seconds with decent luck and good uptime

night relic
#

Idk kinda feels like ur playing ret but worse

livid marsh
#

definitely

night relic
#

I like the identity of big RAAAAH I DO BAJILLION DAMAGE

eager thorn
#

what about the gameplay is similar to ret

night relic
#

and then balloon sword

frank rover
#

i meant to ask

#

did they steal warrior animations

#

and put them on paladin

livid marsh
frank rover
#

they have the condemn animation

#

from arms

#

then they also have the normal execute animation

#

they even have the spell reflect animation

#

idk if im tripping

winged sail
#

why?

ornate gust
south kayak
torpid sand
#

BUFFS TOMORROW WE'RE GONNA BE ACCEPTED IN ALL KEYS

#

ARE YOU PREPARED BOYS

south kayak
lilac plinth
#

Man idk 2803rio and still get decline from ppl 2500 rio this sad

frank dawn
#

gotta wait for tomorrow

#

that will fix it for sure

livid marsh
eager thorn
covert sierra
#

haha what an original joke!

hasty tide
#

For euro trash maybe

eager thorn
hasty tide
#

In the land of the free and day 1 bugs we get it tomorrow

south kayak
#

fuck daylight savings!!

eager thorn
#

Did the clocks go forward or back

livid marsh
#

forward

eager thorn
#

Big pro of having a god awful sleep schedule

#

Didnt even realise

glad coyote
#

when

#

wait

#

cloaks did what now

livid marsh
#

cloaks?

south kayak
#

huh

#

what you talking about

glad coyote
#

nothing

#

im a idiot

#

look else where

livid marsh
#

no im looking right at you

eager thorn
undone flower
#

@hard widget kyvesa time in 3 hours still no grim ring

woven bison
#

SO how EXITED are we for Wednesday?!?!

storm rune
#

excited to ptr test for ya on tues buds

undone flower
#

For sure I will not drop a slot I already have in vault now that most are myth tracks

young swan
livid marsh
#

excited to be middle of the pack

glad coyote
undone flower
livid marsh
#

oof

glad coyote
#

raids done with lol, its all about m+ now

young swan
#

they could buff us to the moon and I would not care

livid marsh
#

glad i only do hc, dont have to deal with mythic raids

undone flower
#

Glad I only myth raid, don’t have to deal with pugging m+ as fury

south kayak
#

Glad I only do LFR, don't have to deal with bad players

#

wait

livid marsh
red berry
#

im still playing this class exclusively so the buffs were nice

undone flower
south kayak
#

isn't the hunter getting giga nerfed in st

undone flower
nocturne dragon
#

They should’ve buff it. They got wrong data because they measure when the bug happened.

south kayak
#

Yeah I heard that

#

remember when they got giga nerfed then it was compensated?

#

same thing is gonna happen

fading bane
#

Vault will go hard

iron portal
#

That shaman name

fading bane
#

ignore the name

chilly fractal
#

How hard are we