fury

[haughty wadi]

Okay tu

[flat river]

Watchu think

[haughty wadi]

Ty

[flat river]

Since BT/BB got buffed

[south kayak]

No clue, I assume RA is still better overall

[somber elk]

What the fuck, we get buffed?

[south kayak]

No, you're dreaming

wake up

[flat river]

Yes they did a grammatical error i think

[south kayak]

Yeah, they meant to reduce damage

but they buff it

happens

[flat river]

Imagine they do like frost dk and arcane mage and just a few minutes before reset they like "LAST MINUTE FURY WARRIOR CHANGES" and they nerf us by 50%

[spark canyon]

Alr ty, you have any pack in Mind where thane would probably outperform slayer ? I was thinking of the Big first one in NW 12 for exemple. And no ele sham in Ur group 😄

[paper aurora]

So what r the implications of fury mt st buffs? We r still running it in m+ right even if boss fights not as op?

[south kayak]

AM with Frenzied is probably better in m+

Lincc's build

[flat river]

Mmm

[paper aurora]

Thats always what Im bracing for rofl

[south kayak]

Thane most likely

if that pack lasts outside of slayer's burst

[flat river]

I haven't tried the AM build yet

So I can't judge

[south kayak]

I haven't in m+

I haven't played warrior much this week

Unhinged bug made me stop

Mainly been playing enha

[flat river]

XD

[south kayak]

I did reroll to enha for raid

[flat river]

:o

[somber elk]

What do you guys trink will be the go to m+ Build After Buffs?

[spark canyon]

Fury thane

[south kayak]

very fun

I love spamming windstrike/stormstrike

[rugged pewter]

When do you guys think the nerfs will hit?

[low folio]

Before Tuesday

[spark canyon]

Btw guys wanted to let u know that i am ret main and i switched Fury warr despite the Big loss of overall dmg just becuz warri gameplay in tww and animations are soo good. Ret is complete dogshit to play

[somber elk]

Ra or am?

[eager thorn]

what animations

its p much just

[unreal stump]

I mean, buffs will make us in the middle of dmg meeters in m+ or even higher? just a 8% overall dont make us as dks, rogue, shams or retris i gues right?

[spark canyon]

No idea

[south kayak]

Above middle (?) for ST damage in raid

[eternal sundial]

5 mins

sims are always 5

[south kayak]

Above average in M+ if not really good

[spark canyon]

Then its dogshit to check this data for m plus

[south kayak]

morning phil

[unreal stump]

i mean in m+ scenarios

[spark canyon]

Longest packs are about a minute max

[blissful kestrel]

How on earth is retri dogshit lmfao

[south kayak]

we lose very little st from changing to aoe so probably really good

[spark canyon]

To play

[blissful kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hardy-mad-max-point-thats-bait-gif-9452999

[spark canyon]

Its easiest spec in the game, and you dont have to think about cd usage u just blast the same every packs mostly

[south kayak]

I'm watching Crit and chat's live reaction to buffs

from yday lol

feelsgoodman

[eternal sundial]

just be happy they already made the overrides

[spark canyon]

Ye its good just dont take these numbers for m plus guys its irrelevant

Considering its 5min Fury slayer will be better than

Than thane

[cedar depot]

to be fair fury is the same

[spark canyon]

In mplus

[eternal sundial]

then enlighten me what i should play

[spark canyon]

Not rly, you got more than 2 spells and actually have to press Ur CD, its doesnt pop like ret

[south kayak]

aff warlock

[spark canyon]

Anything u like, fuck meta

[night void]

those are buffs (still better something than nothing) but questionable if its enough

thane

[fringe vale]

thane slaps

[spark canyon]

Quite good buffs tbh

[eternal sundial]

if the sims all suck

what hero do i play

[fringe vale]

thane slaps in m+ now and will slap harder after buffs

[eternal sundial]

since u know better

[night void]

every buff is good especialy in our state

[spark canyon]

Thane was already very good option before buffs, you Can play either

[night void]

but i doubt tbh its enough i m callming my emotions about them

[cedar depot]

I already run thane for all keys, not interested in AM thane though

[fringe vale]

slayer also slaps, but thane slaps harder in huge packs imo

[spark canyon]

I just think more bursty spec is better in m plus atm

[fringe vale]

with a simlar st

[south kayak]

It doesn't slap, it BLASTS

[fringe vale]

yeah thane is bursty af

[cedar depot]

slayer is nice for lower keys, i find clear times are better

[south kayak]

Slayer is just slightly more bursty than thane and bursts faster

[fringe vale]

thane blast more than slayer in aoe

bc with av the 2 are gauranteed

[spark canyon]

Need 1 min sim data

With buffs

[night void]

for lower keys doesnt matter 😄 but slayer is faster thane is more calm and sustain both are +- equal

[fringe vale]

yeah true

[night void]

and depends on tank what and how he is pulling

so thats another question on RA and AM

[fringe vale]

thats for all the classes tho lol

[night void]

no in AM u can fok tank

u gotta always somethingh

[fringe vale]

eh, rn RA is still better

both are rlly close

so it all depends on the route

[night void]

depends im playin am cause i m used to it for years

but newcomers can be little bit distracted due to desynced CDs

[spark canyon]

Also thane probably better for 12+ cuz of surviability

[fringe vale]

and the cc

that 3 sb's are huge

[night void]

for survivability is best healer u can count with 😄

[fringe vale]

not quite

[night void]

im still pissed about just 10% rampage .buff could be definitely more

[fringe vale]

thane gives u a chance of 6s avatar if im not wrong with the nmbers

[spark canyon]

Just wondering if thane is good st now

Cuz it was very weak compare to slayer

[fringe vale]

the huge buffs are bloodbath

[night void]

+- equal

[south kayak]

wonder if we wanna prio BT over RB now lol

in general

[fringe vale]

depends

on ur talents

[night void]

i know but it makes spec little bit iracional cause your builders does like 2x-3x more than your spender in general

[fringe vale]

but overall u send bt or rb or rb and then bt its about the same

[fringe vale]

but for that u gotta be enraged so

[worthy junco]

do we have a rough % increase from the buffs

[fringe vale]

at the end rampage will always be prio 1

[inland fractal]

Do sims take into account enemy health? Like you have the talent that ups BB/BT under 35%

[fringe vale]

chec #updates-midnight

[night void]

y

[worthy junco]

thank you

[fringe vale]

explain?

[wraith wharf]

tnt mining vein go boom.

[flat river]

can u link it

[uneven plaza]

so what we thinking about buffs?

[cursive sierra]

soooooo back

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/were-back-its-over-gif-24400541

[spark canyon]

quite good but not broken

[fair matrix]

anyone know the numbers on the fury buff

[winter citrus]

check the updates channel 😄

[south kayak]

I think it's Thane AM with Frenzied and no OF

[winged sail]

only fans

[vague copper]

Good gold I heard

[steel shard]

the state of the dk discord

grip and cr does not count being utility btw

[night cedar]

Xdd

[umbral ingot]

Xdd

[buoyant salmon]

i mean utility is just such a fake argument

every single time its brought up

[umbral ingot]

wdym

[buoyant salmon]

it doesnt matter, never has, never will

[steel shard]

huh

[buoyant salmon]

besides aug for living when timer isnt relevant at all to timing keys

[steel shard]

i swear i get told

"can you go dk for grips"

when ppl want to do m+

[buoyant salmon]

?

never had that happen in all of wow history

[steel shard]

yea its super nice

[umbral ingot]

if 2 specs do good dmg but one has vastly better utilities I will take the one with more utility

[summer quail]

Never heard that in my life. And i've been seen m+ from the start

[south kayak]

whoever uses utility argument needs to be disemboweled

[umbral ingot]

should've seen this discord in DF

[heavy flax]

never heard "can you go dk" but i've heard so many "damn i wish we had a dk"

[steel shard]

i quess if you doing 1 pack at a time

you dont need a grip

[summer quail]

Yeah and each time choco and i argued against the masses

[vague fern]

These buffs are not what I expected 😂 holy Lordy..

[umbral ingot]

warrior utility isn't bad rn

[steel shard]

if no prot warrs

sure

but if you have a prot warr

its cinda useless

[umbral ingot]

it was bad when there was no shockwave in our build

[south kayak]

warriors utility is the best it has been in years

you won't see any upgrades

any time soon

[steel shard]

BL

[south kayak]

no

[umbral ingot]

real

[uneven plaza]

any1 have the ravager / AM build crit was playing yesterday on stream?

[south kayak]

they're not giving a tank class bl

stop coping

[buoyant salmon]

warriors utility is pretty bad bc stops suck and its most of what we have

but it also doesnt matter

[steel shard]

idk doesnt matter is cope

[echo junco]

You're in the warrior discord, coping tanks have been full since TBC

[buoyant salmon]

its not cope

its literally never EVER mattered

for what dps specs are meta

[south kayak]

^

you guys rememebr survival meta in s2 or s3?

they had shit utilities/defensives

yet they were meta

because of their DAMAGE

[buoyant salmon]

i mean for getting into keys u might have some argument but im not talking about that ever bc the wow community ruins their own experiences for getting into pug groups

[fluid crater]

Be cool if we could throw a chain and pull say a 10 yard ring of adds towards us.

[steel shard]

meat hook

from SoD

hehe

[buoyant salmon]

s3 s4

but yes

[south kayak]

it's the best example you can use on the utility vs damage argument

because all they did was damage

[umbral ingot]

I would say that utility matters when two specs have a similar performance in dmg

[south kayak]

there's probably a lot more examples

[umbral ingot]

otherwise

[south kayak]

oh yeah

[umbral ingot]

whatever

[south kayak]

elemental shaman has dogshit defensives

HORRENDOUS

[steel shard]

yea like

boomie aswell

[south kayak]

boomie has to go bear form

to survive shit

[eternal sundial]

eh

[steel shard]

yea and they fucking

HATE doing that

while on dk or warr

[eternal sundial]

got a lot better than last expac

[steel shard]

im bing chillin

[south kayak]

it was good when they could reduce all their cds with flash of lightning

but now they can't do that

[buoyant salmon]

got better but still shit

[south kayak]

^

it did get better this patch at least for stormbringer

you get 3% dr with lightning shield

better than nothing

[steel shard]

still dont think ill go warr for HKP

DK defo still the play

[south kayak]

what's hkp

[steel shard]

high key pushing

[south kayak]

ok

i mean, I think fury will be really close to fdk

next week

[steel shard]

yea but already got a prot warr

if it was a druid tank

sure

[south kayak]

isn't paladin the meta now

tank

[steel shard]

think so?

but does not have it o

so

my warr is 629 and dk 628 so

[south kayak]

I thought they fixed prot pala damage

but it's still high af

[turbid abyss]

man look at critcake's happy face at the start of his video about warrior buffs

[south kayak]

lol

[south kayak]

i watched vod earlier today

[turbid abyss]

vs the disappoinment in his face on the video where he mentioned blizz forgot to enroll thane buffs

[south kayak]

when the buffs started

chat was losing it

[steel shard]

man i want em to make

execute a spender

but when it crits rampage is free

[umbral ingot]

I was giggling n shit when I read them

[steel shard]

imagine

[umbral ingot]

how could it not make one happy

[turbid abyss]

dude armageddon is closing in

[south kayak]

[fluid crater]

😂

[south kayak]

it was critcake's joker arc

[steel shard]

i cinda hoped for another warrior nerf

would be good content

[south kayak]

someone would be commiting sucide

if we got nerfed

[steel shard]

it would be

[burnt kelp]

in game

[steel shard]

funny tho

lets be honest

[thick kayak]

has there been any major talent changes from any of these buffs/nerfs

[umbral ingot]

nah

[wicked glade]

So fury warriors happy about the buff or still dooming about everything?xD

[twilit magnet]

Fury warriors simple minds. They see buff, they happy, they see nerf, they doom. No need for reflection, just raw emotions!

[plush geyser]

the fury buff is wild guys

[twilit magnet]

Any guesses on how this will affect Broodtwister & Queen? Will thane become the game, or is slayer burst still too important?

[trail bane]

My unqualified guess is that Ovi'nax is still going to be Slayer. Queen could maybe be more in thane territory now but im not sure

[ornate gust]

when is our next buff and better utilities for raid and mythic+ ???

[fast crown]

Considering as people come more familiar with the encounters and get more BiS gear, the burst AOE sections of those fights will get easier and things will be alive for not long at all

Slayer will still be the go for better ST and the burst

[dusty plinth]

Agree, BL shout when? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[last pier]

fr tho warr esp fury should have lust

[open flax]

Warriors having lust is the hill I will die on. It makes sense thematically

[proper saddle]

and CR

[gaunt moat]

they won't give it, since it'd make a tank with lust and they don't want to give lust to tanks

[queen tapir]

[gaunt moat]

[trail bane]

i think the biggest change might be that the m+ thane build with vicious comtempt instead of titanic rage might be worth playing even with the clunky opener

[south kayak]

clunky opener?

[dusty plinth]

Put it in arms/fury spec tree. Think we can help with the name.

[south kayak]

we did this opener before

well, we did use FM

so maybe not lol

[trail bane]

Yes and it is a fact that its more clunky than the titanic rage one

Or are you arguing against that?

[south kayak]

I'm not

[gaunt moat]

feels clunky af without fm

but alright in high keys

[open flax]

Just add spells to the store. I'd pay £20 for bloodlust.

[errant vessel]

Does the 20% BT buff affect Bloodbath as well?

Given that they didn’t specify that it doesn’t

[gaunt moat]

no but they buffed both spells

[gaunt moat]

they buffed both spells by 20% bloodbath only gets his 20%

[forest ginkgo]

We have been blessed with this buff

Lets all prayge they do not throw us to the side again and give us a nerf

[errant vessel]

Ye but BB is affected by buffs to BT normally, so that’s why I’m questioning it

[livid marsh]

are we back boys?

[forest ginkgo]

Seeing our ST be buffed feelsgood tho

[oblique trail]

The buffs are pretty significant

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah for sure

[oblique trail]

We aren't gonna be pre-hotfix Eleshamans but we'll be doing quite well

[gaunt moat]

it's affected by ingame buffs but not by aura buffs from blizzard

else RA would ALWAYS be ahead of AM

[errant vessel]

Yes it is

[bleak timber]

so how well is dracthyr for warrior

[errant vessel]

They specified that it doesn’t apply to BB and CB specifically last time

[oblique trail]

Simwise it's equivalent to most other higher end races, about 0.6%~ off Mechagnome for me personally when I last checked

Actual utility wise, I wouldn't really write home about Dracthyr

Glide though can have some nice niche cases for anti-knockback, though we don't really need help with that

[south kayak]

Dracthyr have glide which is really good for bosses like ansurek with the pulls/knockbacks

[forest ginkgo]

Charge op

[south kayak]

and it will most likely always have a use

[wraith wharf]

knockback is fun for pvp

[south kayak]

but warriors have ways to avoid that by charging or leaping so it's less useful

[forest ginkgo]

I think play what race fits what u thematically want unless ur tryna minmax everything dps wise

[bleak timber]

seem's good for running in delves

[south kayak]

yeah

I think most people are doing that

[south kayak]

the speed is the same, they nerfed that iirc

[forest ginkgo]

But then again, if dracthyr gets the knockback and knockup utility then worth. But idk if those are evoker specific

[bleak timber]

still better than just walking i swear

[oblique trail]

If you want the most practical answer, play what suits your needs the most

[south kayak]

They don't have both anymore

[oblique trail]

If you don't care much for M+, pick what sims the best or what you think looks the best to you

[south kayak]

Only evokers have both

[oblique trail]

But if you push M+, consider what has the best utility for you

Nelf/Dwarf typically always is a great pick in this case

[forest ginkgo]

Like night elf or dwarf

[south kayak]

I'm not sure what non evokers get, knockup or back

[forest ginkgo]

Ye

[south kayak]

someone probably knows

[bleak timber]

knockback for others dracthyr

[forest ginkgo]

Nelf meld is poggied

[bleak timber]

iirc

[oblique trail]

It's knockback yes

[south kayak]

okay

i think i prefer knockup

[oblique trail]

Not a particularly strong one but useful in niche uses

[south kayak]

moving mobs away is usually not that useful

and ruins some damage

[forest ginkgo]

Esp in m+

[bleak timber]

an aoe kul tiran punch

[south kayak]

we don't have sanguine anymore

[forest ginkgo]

So many times i've seen a great pull be fucked by someone knocking all adds away

[south kayak]

what was the mastery buff

for dracthyr

[south kayak]

typhoon moment

[lucid onyx]

Why does ally get all the good utility racials

[worldly cave]

1.4%

[forest ginkgo]

1% for warriors i think? Not sure tho, only saw that on my level 10 dracthyr

[forest ginkgo]

Or maybe not warriors specifically, but i made a dracthyr warr and it said "1% mast"

[south kayak]

to compensate for the fact horde had really good racials 10 years ago

[bleak timber]

usefull for fury

[worldly cave]

1.4 for fury and 1.5 for prot

[lucid onyx]

[forest ginkgo]

Doesnt human give for all stats?

[south kayak]

yeah it does

depends on the amount of stats

[oblique trail]

Human and Dracthyr are about equivalent atm

[south kayak]

human will be better with more stats iirc

[oblique trail]

Might change slightly later on with more secondaries

[wild plank]

Void elf ❤️

[south kayak]

void elf is great tbh

[forest ginkgo]

I simmed and got less as dracthyr on mine but maybe thats cuz i already got high mastery

[south kayak]

50% less transmog cost

[forest ginkgo]

But then again i aint no master simmer so maybe i did something wrong

[wild plank]

this man knows what's up

[south kayak]

I have a velf hunter

[oblique trail]

But like always, races are very very close to each other to the point where DPS is not really necessary to go for unless you're in the top 0.001% that actually benefit

[south kayak]

getting ready for sylvanas set

[eager thorn]

but 50% of 0 is 0

[south kayak]

hey mudslap

[forest ginkgo]

True and real

[eager thorn]

hello

[south kayak]

were you there when fury live

[bleak timber]

i'm just bored of my orc

[eager thorn]

ur gonna have to be more specific

[south kayak]

i was sleeping lol

[wild plank]

I'd love to see a video compilation of void elf warriors pulling off some shenanigans with the 'teleport'

[worldly cave]

1.1 for arms.. hm

[forest ginkgo]

I remember when i tried minmaxing everything and kept race changing

[south kayak]

buffs

[eager thorn]

oh

[forest ginkgo]

I think in total i've race changed like 10 times

[eager thorn]

i think i woke up like 20 mins after they got announced

im not sold on em

[south kayak]

where were you when fury live (it's a meme on where were you when ** died)

[eager thorn]

i see

[charred pumice]

are we back?

[south kayak]

we are so back

[forest ginkgo]

We back

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/were-back-its-over-gif-24400541

[gaunt moat]

the only reason to play human warrior is to be variann

[worldly cave]

we back... soon?

[forest ginkgo]

It was a whole lotta "its over" we were pulling each nerf

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/badass-varian-wrynn-gif-11027047

[south kayak]

they are pretty huge ngl

[bleak timber]

real

[forest ginkgo]

But now its "WE'RE BACK"

[bleak timber]

screaming and parrying

[celest sierra]

Next Tuesday … WARRIOR IS BACK BABY, fury fookin warrior is back

[bleak timber]

https://tenor.com/view/varian-illidan-genji-parry-parryin-gif-9646947

[gaunt moat]

bring back OGS humans

[eager thorn]

idk it doesnt really fix my issues with warr tho

[gaunt moat]

Edwynn VanCleef Varian Wrynn Medhiv

[eager thorn]

like more dmg is nice but is it gonna get me into 12s

[charred pumice]

biggest prob warrior has is lack of utility imo

[eager thorn]

i doubt it

[forest ginkgo]

I mean whats ur score

[oblique trail]

I think you're underestimating what makes a spec meta in M+

[south kayak]

depends on many other things

[forest ginkgo]

Ye

[oblique trail]

Damage very often completely changes the community's view on what's meta or not

[south kayak]

Especially huge damage buffs, it will definitely change the perception and let in more warriors to m+

[oblique trail]

As I mentioned earlier, we aren't gonna be obscene still, but we'll be in a better place for sure

[south kayak]

Yeah, in a healthy place

which is better than being obscene

[charred pumice]

how do u play fury in high keys with barely a heal

[south kayak]

Fury is very tanky

[oblique trail]

Wdym barely a heal

[forest ginkgo]

Just impending victory

[worthy arrow]

OMG I JUST WOKE UP WITH A NICE NOTIFICATION. WE GETTING BUFFEEEED.

[forest ginkgo]

Like all the time

[south kayak]

and I don't understand your question

[eager thorn]

dmg will be nice but like what is the reason to take fury over smth like ret/fdk atm

[oblique trail]

Fury doesn't really need help surviving

[forest ginkgo]

Fury is amazing at surviving

[gaunt moat]

yh ngl i'm last at heal received every dungeon

[forest ginkgo]

Most of the time i survive shit others would never

[south kayak]

I can see Fury coming close if not better than FDK in some pulls

[worldly cave]

dk more tanky

[south kayak]

but fdk still probably better

because they're a lot tankier

cough 20% stamina

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah i dont understand why fury is squishier

[eager thorn]

and has a bres

[forest ginkgo]

But aja

I barely die so its fine

[bleak timber]

I like anduin actually

[worldly cave]

and 35% hp reduce dmg..

[south kayak]

literally every single class is squishier than dk, it's a big outliner

and needs to be nerfed

make it 10% stamina or something

20% for 1 point

is HUGE

[forest ginkgo]

Definetely

[south kayak]

while we have 10% stamina for 2 point nodes

and it's at the end of the class tree

ICANT

[forest ginkgo]

I smadge

[gaunt moat]

nah bruh he's been crying for 3 expansions straight

[south kayak]

but i guess we weren't veterans of the third war

too bad

[gaunt moat]

he's not gritty enough

[quaint dove]

Are the buffs live next reset?

[south kayak]

yes

[forest ginkgo]

Yes

[worldly cave]

HERO class what ever

[forest ginkgo]

Im gonna have fun blasting

[charred pumice]

what keys u doing atm as fury

[quaint dove]

Time to learn arms and thane I guess

[forest ginkgo]

Thane is fun

[south kayak]

Maybe you should have participated in the third war, then you'd have 20% stamina

[forest ginkgo]

Fury thane is some of the most fun i've had

And it fucks damage

[kindred hearth]

Agreed

[forest ginkgo]

Even on ST i havent had an issue for some bosses

[kindred hearth]

Nope. It pumps

[lucid onyx]

Fury thane is fun until you get to a boss

[forest ginkgo]

Sometimes sitting on a solid 1.1 million ST dps if not more

[kindred hearth]

Ravager play is fun as fuck

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah for sure

[bleak timber]

so fdk is better in utility and tanking ?

[eternal sundial]

thane claps

[gaunt moat]

ravager is fun until it leaves the boat on dawnbreaker

[eternal sundial]

please gift me reddit gold

[gaunt moat]

[bleak timber]

✍️

[south kayak]

I wouldn't say that, ST damage is fine and it's going to be really good next week

[forest ginkgo]

Oh no

[south kayak]

so you won't have that issue anymore

[eager thorn]

man

[forest ginkgo]

Dawnbreaker sucks for transmitter too

[kindred hearth]

That ain't ravagers fault. That's dog ass dungeons

[forest ginkgo]

My orb disappeared once

[eager thorn]

burst of power procs with 2/2 vc is gonna feel so fucking nice

[forest ginkgo]

Yeeted off the ship

[lucid onyx]

Not really the damage thats the issue for me much prefer slayer feel on st

[forest ginkgo]

Dawnbreakers moving ship is dog

[eager thorn]

its not dog its cool

[south kayak]

ladies of reddit, what's the sexiest sex you've ever sexed?

[lucid onyx]

Thunderblast is mega fun on aoe but st not so much

[eager thorn]

you just dont like it cos it made ur trinket bad

[south kayak]

bring on the updoots

[forest ginkgo]

True

Beyond that one point of the dungeon tho its a cool dungeob

I find thunderblast quite satisfying during burst in ST

It feels like it hits nicely

[south kayak]

it does

I find it very satsifying

[forest ginkgo]

And getting those sometimes 2 million+ hits of Bloodbath is the best feeling, idk what the procc is called but u get 2 stacks of something that increases ur bloodbath/bloodthirst dam

[south kayak]

and it's gonna do even more in st with LS buff

[forest ginkgo]

Yeppers

[south kayak]

Burst of Power

[forest ginkgo]

Ye i will never go back to slayer in m+ unless thane gets mega nerfed

[oblique trail]

I'm like 90% certain you can't proc pad/ball anymore on the ship with Transmitter

[forest ginkgo]

Have they fixed that?

So u only procc the jump

[south kayak]

I find slayer fun on ST

but thane MT

[fervent yoke]

WE ARE BACK

[oblique trail]

I haven't had pad/ball on the ship ever in my keys the past idk 2 weeks or so

So either I'm just insanely lucky or they made a stealth fix

[forest ginkgo]

Could be

[south kayak]

What are you talking about?

[forest ginkgo]

I mean it was only orb that was fucked

[south kayak]

What's this pad/ball

[forest ginkgo]

So makes no sense that pad would be removed

[oblique trail]

The pad was also awkward at times

[forest ginkgo]

Really?

[oblique trail]

Ye

[forest ginkgo]

Cant remember

[lucid onyx]

Imagine having TT

[oblique trail]

It wouldn't properly register if you stood on it

[south kayak]

Never heard of this pad

what does it entail

[forest ginkgo]

OH RIGHT

[oblique trail]

So you'd have to move around to make it register

[forest ginkgo]

UR REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING HORRIBLE

God i went fuckin ballistic about that once

Stood on it for a solid 8 seconds probably, stressing out about it not activating

[south kayak]

oh the transmitter pad

doesn't work on ship?

[forest ginkgo]

Ye it dont from my memory

Banezi reminded me of trauma

Or orb just going weeeeee

[south kayak]

all the more reason to not have transmitter

[forest ginkgo]

Off the ship

[oblique trail]

Only noobers don't want Transmitter

[forest ginkgo]

Nah apparently they (possibly) fixed since banezi said he only gets the jump

[oblique trail]

I've only gotten jump at least

Recently

[forest ginkgo]

Ima try next time i do dawnies

See if i only get jump

Transmitter is best trinket

[south kayak]

Surely it's not just because I didn't see it yet

[forest ginkgo]

My message just got blocked damn

[south kayak]

how dare you use slurs??

[forest ginkgo]

Didnt even use bad word, cryge

I DIDNT

I wrote doofus

[south kayak]

disgusting behaviour

[forest ginkgo]

But maybe that wasnt the bad word idk

[flat river]

then why did it send this time

[forest ginkgo]

IDK MAN

[south kayak]

susge

[forest ginkgo]

Skyhold kinda sus

[south kayak]

there are some weird words censored

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/susge-stare-pepe-sus-gif-6983445641596872640

[oblique trail]

I have the receipts

you said a bad word indeed

[south kayak]

oh uh

[forest ginkgo]

I did?

[flat river]

:o

[forest ginkgo]

Ban me i deserve nothing

[oblique trail]

well per Discords baseline censor system prob

[forest ginkgo]

Kekw

[south kayak]

lmao

[jovial coral]

For gifflar or

[oblique trail]

give me some

[forest ginkgo]

I love

[cosmic jetty]

now AM>RA?

[forest ginkgo]

Relative to what ur doing, mostly you'll be RA tho

Ovi'nax, defo AM

[umbral ingot]

[south kayak]

Anger Management, Reckless Abandon

[eager thorn]

Am pm

[jolly marten]

ok, wake me up when this patch ends

[wicked glade]

Idk why fury warrior looks like such a simple spec but i guess im really too dumb

[umbral ingot]

[south kayak]

it is a simple spec

[forest ginkgo]

Fury is simple compared to others

[main halo]

so the changes basicly dont change the m+ spec, thane will still be the better choise?

[forest ginkgo]

But it is a bit harder to "Master"

Thane is best

[south kayak]

does Rampage buff make AM better?

[forest ginkgo]

Imo

My experience with both slayer and Thane is Thane claps harder in m+ but im not basing that off of sims so its just personal experience

[south kayak]

I see what you did there

[forest ginkgo]

Look away

Im sure people agree tho

[wicked glade]

Yea but there are so many things i dont get because im not used to prioritys like i do rampage then blood then blow then blow and then rampage but i got the feeling its wrong

[south kayak]

it is true I Think

Thane does definitely do more aoe than slayer

I wonder what's the diff between thane ST in Aoe and slayer st in aoe spec next week

[forest ginkgo]

I learned a lot about rotation from watching streamers like critcake or youtubers. I very much recommend

And also sitting on target dummys a lot

[formal ravine]

Go to changes and check the picture posted there

[wicked glade]

Yea thats what i do too, quit enjoying the class so far

[last sparrow]

im so glad we had the unhinged bug, i genuinely thought that when we bladestormed we lost the buff forgore that it bloodbaths during it

[south kayak]

that only shows 5target and ST build

[trail bane]

What content are you primarily doing?

[forest ginkgo]

Watch videos too, will give a lot of insight

[formal ravine]

It's the same thing slayer is better in single target

Talents barely make a difference to it

[forest ginkgo]

Ye pure ST slayer is ahead

[wicked glade]

Not really endgame yet at the moment im more into heroics to get a better feel for the class

[forest ginkgo]

U talking raid or dungeons?

[trail bane]

Is your focus going to be on dungeons or raids?

[south kayak]

yeah but M+ Thane losses even less ST

[wicked glade]

Both wanna do both

[forest ginkgo]

Also, when u do play Thane. It can become a bit chaotic

[trail bane]

Then i guess the best part for you to start at is getting used to the general fury priority in regards to Rampage, Crushing Blow/Raging Blow and Bloodbath/Bloodthirst

[unborn sparrow]

Looks like even more incentive to do m thane next week for m+ (gap in st went down)

[trail bane]

Most of your time is going to be spent pressing those buttons

[forest ginkgo]

If u do +10s i think thane all the way

But thats just me

[unborn sparrow]

I was debating whether slayer is good on dungeons where bosses are group busters

[forest ginkgo]

Try the same dungeon at the same level with slayer and then thane, see how it feels

[wicked glade]

kk, i will do this, and yea thats my biggest issue right now. Thank you very much time to hit more dummys

[trail bane]

Something like

Rampage -> Crushing Blow -> Bloodbath -> Raging Blow -> Repeat from Rampage

There is going to be some stuff that makes it more complicated like not getting enough rage for a Rampage or when to use Execute if it procs. But start by getting used to that basic rotation

And when you start feeling like you got that down, then focus on other parts of the rotation. Perhaps the opener or when to press execute/thunder blast.

If you use Weakauras there also some useful weakauras especially for Slayer that tells you when to use Execute

But thats for after you master the general rotation

[wicked glade]

Rampage CB BB RB Rampage alrighty, thank you very much

[forest ginkgo]

And look at rotations that people do, analyze and copy and try to figure out what that person changes based upon whats happening

Might be much now in the beginning but helps a lot later

[trail bane]

Thats probably for the master level of practise

When starting out it might be too much :D

[forest ginkgo]

Ye thats why i added the later

[trail bane]

Ah, yea

[wicked glade]

Btw another one small question because i have some issues with my eyes and the icons for CB and RB looks so similiar, it is CB when the icon glows or?

[south kayak]

whenever you rampage, the next one is CB

[lone sage]

Bro this community is so cancer, a dk used abomination limb on the last boss of ara kara on a +11 killed everybody, was told to take care, use it again, key broke and he said "get rekt" ppl like this remind me why I gave up wow one for so many years /rant

[south kayak]

easy way to figure that out

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah

And each rampage u only get one CB and one BB

[wicked glade]

Ahhh oke thank yoz very much both of you thats a big help

[forest ginkgo]

So thats why the rotation is generally, Rampage > CB > BB and whatever fits after that (usually execute)

[wicked glade]

Oh thats perfect this will make it so much easier now

[forest ginkgo]

If you want to put in extra effort though, and ik its still early in ur exploration of fury. But still, check out Wowanalyzer for raid logs, you can check timeline for how people dps on ST bosses for example and where they pop their cds for different bosses. Helps out a lot when u wanna get a lot better

[trail bane]

Guys look at this happy boi

[lament hinge]

i guess 5-10% is better than nothing

[trail bane]

Im so glad we are getting buffed if not only to see Critcake smile

[forest ginkgo]

But will he play arms over fury

OOOOOOO

Remains to see

[south kayak]

it's not just better than nothing, it's huge lol

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah its pretty huge

Tbf the reap the storm buff came as a shock to me tbh

[eager thorn]

I still think its not that great but ig we’ll see

[forest ginkgo]

Since our aoe is still pretty damn good

[south kayak]

Our burst for raid is pretty damn good

not our aoe in genera

[lone sage]

Sustained aoe still meh

[forest ginkgo]

I mean are there any sustained aoe fights in the raid?

Like really sustained

[lone sage]

Was doing some 14s today, and after he was out of cds his dmg fell off a cliff

[south kayak]

I'm talking about M+

[forest ginkgo]

Oooh

I was thinking raid

I mean if we play thane our sustained is really, really good

I barely have to use cds to sit on high dps as thane

[snow edge]

Thane is not terrible at sustained, and only improves with the reset

[lone sage]

He was thane

Yeah

But it's not good either

Better than slayer for sure but still meh

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/chernobyl-not-great-not-terrible-its-okay-gif-24540363

[lone sage]

The sin rogue was doing legit double his dmg on most packs that he didn't had cds

[south kayak]

have you thought maybe the sin had cds

[lone sage]

Our cds doesn't matter

My main is sin

[forest ginkgo]

Was it outlaw rogue?

[snow edge]

Relative to what though? If you’re comparing to outliers it won’t be as good, but being an outlier runs the risk of getting the hammer

[forest ginkgo]

Idk what sin rogue is

[lone sage]

Is not a huge dif on aoe

[south kayak]

[lone sage]

Sin sustain aoe is insanely good

[forest ginkgo]

WHAT IS SIN

Hero talent?

[lone sage]

Assassination rogue

[forest ginkgo]

Aaaah

I mean yeah, they are pretty damn good

[lone sage]

We have zero aoe cds

So the sustain is big every pack

[forest ginkgo]

I remember on CoT 2nd boss, assa rogue was just carrying an insane amount

[south kayak]

You have deathmark

[snow edge]

Yeh some specs are better; but I’d rather not get a bigger buff then a follow up nerf a week later

[forest ginkgo]

True

[lone sage]

Aoe cd, deathmark won't do shit on a pack with 10+mobs

[forest ginkgo]

If they do that to us, i will just go crazy

[south kayak]

I guess Kingsbane is an aoe cd with spatter

[lone sage]

Around 2% gain on aoe scenario

[forest ginkgo]

If they do nerf tho, i hope its just aoe

And not ST

[south kayak]

Also can we get a petition to nerf Caustic Spatter

thanks

[wicked glade]

I wasted a full week free 600+ gear what a pain

[lone sage]

Already did

But buffed our set

[south kayak]

more

[lone sage]

So gains inc

Lmao

[forest ginkgo]

I got the spear from blackrock raid

Actually pumps

In ST*

[south kayak]

th what

oh

YEAR OF THE SPEAR??

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah

It did a lot of dmg

But i only use it for ky'veza and sikran

[south kayak]

year of the spear

[forest ginkgo]

I wish they'd remove spears BS about having to stand in the circle

God i wanna jump around like an unleashed chimpanzee again

[south kayak]

chimpanzees are always unleashed

[wicked glade]

Ohhh this dps meter layout looks sick really nice o.o

[forest ginkgo]

Bro went fancy only to do 500 k dps

Cryge

[south kayak]

im not max level

[forest ginkgo]

Shhh

[south kayak]

that other guy is 623

and it's TW

[prime saddle]

they did remove that already this xpac, didn't they?

[south kayak]

They did

[forest ginkgo]

HUH?

[south kayak]

that's not a thing anymore

[eager thorn]

It got removed a while ago ye

[eternal canopy]

kek

[forest ginkgo]

What

[forest ginkgo]

Yhe

Fuck

[lone sage]

[worldly cave]

TW scale borken

[forest ginkgo]

I have been standing in spear

[eager thorn]

Its kinda crazy how many ppl dont know it

[south kayak]

That's a guy from my guild wtf

or was

[forest ginkgo]

Since beginning of expansion

Do u mean it was all for nothing?

[lone sage]

Lmao

[forest ginkgo]

NOOOO

[eager thorn]

Yes

[forest ginkgo]

So we still get the buff

Even if we step out

I gotta try that

Ya'll better not be trolling cuz if thats a fact then im the happiest man alive rn

[south kayak]

we'r enot

[forest ginkgo]

I WILL CHECK

RIGHT NOE

[fading hare]

oaoOOaiaAaiaia

[nocturne dragon]

it was for nothing

[forest ginkgo]

I will cry

Dont even

[fiery hare]

So is this buff enough for us to dominate damage meters? 🙂

[nocturne dragon]

right now you spear the enemy and as long as the initial hit connect you free to move anywhere else.

[lone sage]

Blizz games

[south kayak]

huh

[eager relic]

WHAT THE FUCK

[fiery hare]

And completely obliterate rogues

[eager relic]

YOU DONT HAVE TO STAND IN SPEAR??

[forest ginkgo]

SEE ANOTHER ONE

[south kayak]

lmao what is this

[forest ginkgo]

I WILL CONFIRM IN A SECONE

[south kayak]

how did people not know this

[forest ginkgo]

Dont worry about it

[eager relic]

This whole fucking time

[plucky pewter]

All the people not knowing coming out of the wood works lol

[nocturne dragon]

Are you guys trolling or something? that changes is few months old now.

[south kayak]

hahaha

[hollow elk]

People don't read stuff. Well more like they don't read period

[digital mauve]

Are these changes enough to repair the war class ?

[south kayak]

yes

well

just damage wise

[digital mauve]

Yeah

[south kayak]

if you don't like how the class functions, no

[digital mauve]

No util

[hollow elk]

I feel like this leaves us just behind the second nerf

[digital mauve]

Indo but damage wasnt good

[eager relic]

We will always be no intellect w keyers, brother

[digital mauve]

Infeel like arms will take over ?

[south kayak]

for ST raid

yes

otherwise no

[forest ginkgo]

Hmmm, it doesnt show any buff from standing in the spear or not anymore so thats weird

[digital mauve]

Humm okey

[forest ginkgo]

But

[proud leaf]

arms is already way ahead of fury in ST raid

[keen pier]

Hello there cuties.

With the up coming buffs, is Mountain Thane still going to be the M+ spec? Or will slayer now pump good sustained damage aswell?

Whats your take on it? Been playing Mountain Thane while pushing 12s/13s but im wondering.

[digital mauve]

We'll see ingame with talent change and all

[proud leaf]

the problem is the playstyle is ass

[hollow elk]

Meh difference too small to care. Plus I don't wanna have to have two sets to properly play arms

[south kayak]

I wouldnt' say that

it's not "way ahead"

[forest ginkgo]

Im guessing that means i dont gotta stand in circle

Fuck yeah

[timber cliff]

Didn't the buff go away when Spear of Bastion become the Champions' Spear talent?

[chrome relic]

There’s like three fights where arms is better

[nocturne dragon]

You debuff the enemy now. As long as your initial hit the enemy, enemy got debuf and take 25% more crit damage rom you.

[south kayak]

fury is really close to arms eitehr way

even on ST

[nocturne dragon]

it's just rename and recolour, they want to walk away from SL aesthetic

[hollow elk]

It's like what 60k ahead? I don't wanna build a second arms set for that lol

[south kayak]

so you can play what you prefer

[chrome relic]

Fury is more than fine to play

[quaint dove]

Do we think Slayer Fury will still be best in most cleave/add fights?

[south kayak]

yes

[chrome relic]

For every boss in that raid where it matters you’re gonna be playing fury anyway

[proud leaf]

eh yeah it's a bit closer than i thought. about 50-75k on sikran and kyveza

[tender seal]

Not necessary with a second set at all tho

[chrome relic]

Nexus princess is a survival check

Not dps

[hollow elk]

Stat prio for both classes are too different

[timber cliff]

Is Arms gear that different from Fury? I was thinking about trying to learn Arms so I'm not a fury onetrick but I didn't wanna build a new gear set

[quaint dove]

crafted is the same

[chrome relic]

It’s almost a whole new gear set. At least rings/neck/trinkets(?)

[nocturne dragon]

different Lee. Arms wants Haste>Crit, Fury wants Haste>Mastery

[chrome relic]

But honestly if you like fury more just play it

[tender seal]

Nah. Most likely u just need a few pieces with more haste.

[tender seal]

Dont mind too much the "arms want crit / haste"

[wicked glade]

Fury wants mastery? Glad im playing dragon boy xD

[tender seal]

Just sim... Alot of the time it will suggest just getting more haste, not crit.

[hollow elk]

You want crit haste and a bit of mastery I think. Fury is mastery haste and a bit of crit mostly. You can play it but thos sims were arms is ahead assumes you're using optimal stats.

[quaint dove]

I do wonder whether it will be worth learning thane for raid

[timber cliff]

Still waiting for the bloodmallet race sims to include dracthyr

Maybe one day

[tender seal]

Press thunderblast when it lights up - u learned it now

[south kayak]

it's basically the same

TB prio highest tho

that's it

[gaunt moat]

these fotm elemental shaman are making me crazy

[timber cliff]

I considered making one

[gaunt moat]

dude actually didn't know you had to kill adds on ara kara last boss to make pool pop

[timber cliff]

So tired of getting cooked in palace by our shaman 😦

[nocturne dragon]

Even better if the thane you are going is the prot one. Mostly you will get easy mech as tank, let the dps and healer panic.

[hollow elk]

Alot of people don't. Cuz someone usually doing it for em. End up not learning mechs lol

[gaunt moat]

they getting hard nerfed this wednesday

[south kayak]

Well, they got curbstomped (ele)

[burnt kelp]

(deserved)

[south kayak]

(real)

[quaint dove]

sounds easy so will probs learn it for high keys anyway

[south kayak]

enha is much more fun than ele

[hollow elk]

I hope we don't burst to the top either.... I rather like being under the radar instead of getting nerfed into mole peoplle

[quaint dove]

the other thing I thought is with the BB buff, will Ovinax go back to Reckless Abandon on mythic?

instead of AM build

[south kayak]

well, they also buffed BT

[hollow elk]

The buffs got announced yesterday.

[south kayak]

but that'snot why it's good on Ovinax

[chrome relic]

You won’t be getting cooked anymore buddy

😂😂😂

[south kayak]

more cds = more dps on adds

[quaint dove]

yeah I guess main cds are the reason

[hollow elk]

Adds have a specific spawn time

[south kayak]

yeah and it fits AM

[hollow elk]

So probably not Gona mess it up with ra

[south kayak]

and with AM doing close ST to RA

you'll be doing decent damage to the boss

with buffs next week

[quaint dove]

using it for the first time this reset so will stick with it thanks

[timber cliff]

Oh shit our Shaman is Enh not Ele 🙃

[south kayak]

Enh did get nerfs too

[forest ginkgo]

If u want a tip, let boss pull u in to him fully when he starts(does no dmg). And towards the end of the cast, maybe 1 or 0.5 seconds left of the cast. He'll do a little "yoink" that pulls everybody in, (since ur inside him it'll look like ur character jumps) after that happens, and i mean immediately after. Heroic leap out, and u never have to stand in the pools. U can keep high uptime that way

[frank rover]

am i getting trolled

[gaunt moat]

i know bro i do the jump

[forest ginkgo]

Oh alright good

[frank rover]

i cant tell if these are false patchnotes

are we finally getting buffed

[gaunt moat]

the shaman was dying from not creating pool for himself

[forest ginkgo]

Ah

[gaunt moat]

and it was making me crazy

[forest ginkgo]

Classic

Just heroic leap

Obviously

Silly shamans

[forest ginkgo]

Yes

[gaunt moat]

actually they've a spell that can make the same thing

but idon't expect them to think

[forest ginkgo]

Its a super small leap forward tho isnt it?

Ours is a huge leap

I wonder how strong warrior legs are to be capable of jumping like we do so seamlessly

[south kayak]

we also thunder clap

with our legs

[slim coral]

The AH is the new homeless shelter

[south kayak]

Bazed was right about buffs

[slim coral]

What can I say

[south kayak]

based

[random hill]

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Is this the last expansion guys?

[queen tapir]

I mean china server is not run by blizz?

[burnt kelp]

China number 1

[queen tapir]

is this the last expansion guys

https://tenor.com/view/pepegsitarrive-pepegsit-pepeg-gif-21500661

[burnt kelp]

no, there's at least 2 more after

[queen tapir]

I swear the shit that wow players spew

[random hill]

after TWW gg?

are we selling out

[south kayak]

Black Arrow is basically a better Condemn

[crimson apex]

sometimes my dps macro stops working

doesnt cast avatar, the macro is greyed out on my bar

even tho avatar is off CD

[night relic]

Hunters and shammies had their 1 week of fun and now gotta go back in their cage

[fallow forum]

enha is the same as it was prepatch, its still going to be the best melee by far lol

[timber cliff]

Tragic news for me honestly

[wicked glade]

Right now i started to play legion

And the fact that odyn called me the strongest warrior in azeroth is kinda nice ngl xD

[lone sage]

Arms is looking better than fury overall after changes or im tripping

[wicked glade]

I mean survival hunter is still pretty strong in keys so far as i saw

[clever belfry]

balls

[south kayak]

coccyx

[summer crater]

Almost every mage/rogue I've been in pugs with has done bad dps

[fallow forum]

probably because they are all warriors who rerolled 😄

[clever belfry]

real

all warriors are dogshit at the game

[vapid mulch]

Critcake I deleted my ret did I do good?

[eternal sundial]

Bro first week i play mine, got a 10 done and now warrior buffs

I should play mine a 2nd week

[vapid mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

quick make a FDK

[eternal sundial]

HOLY REAL

Reminds me of my evo i named rework mage

Week later mage rework...

So i can make a new dragon and name it rework arms..

Or a new dk even tho i have 3

[vapid mulch]

an arms rework scares me

cos can they be trusted?

[eternal sundial]

Has any rework sucked

They actually put in good effort

[vapid mulch]

ours would be the first

[eternal sundial]

Even the small arms tree one in 10 0 5 was good

[vapid mulch]

its blizzard touching warrior

[eternal sundial]

Cant get worse

[restive granite]

i dont like the changes

if this is what were getting

imfuckingodne

[proper quest]

Any changes are good changes at this point bruh just be happy we got a crumb

[restive granite]

they pushing AM, the wet noodle buff to execute is not going to make us press it any other different than its now

[warm crag]

wdym they're pushing am

unless you mean the last round of tuning not this one

[proper quest]

Execute buff means slayer is gonna be slightly better since u press it more often

[restive granite]

theyre buffing bt and rb

do they include their RA versions?

[proper quest]

Also BB

Lol

[warm crag]

rb and cb are not getting buffed

[restive granite]

hmmm

[proper quest]

Read notes again homie

[south kayak]

That was last week's and it was only for BT RB

This upcoming one is for BT and BB

[proper quest]

Makes RA thane hit harder

[cedar shuttle]

what race is best for warri? style and what bring the most 😄

[warm crag]

bb and bt are being buffed by the same % so it shouldnt tip any scales

[restive granite]

reading is for nerds

[proper quest]

Gnome for the vibes, Nelf for meld

[warm crag]

if you need to ask its not worth optimizing for you

play whichever race you think looks coolest

[restive granite]

tauren

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[proper quest]

Panda

[cedar shuttle]

😄

[south kayak]

We got really good buffs, I don't know what you want lol

And ones that we needed

For Sustain cleave/ST

[restive granite]

I WANT TO PRESS EXECUTE EVERY TIME I GET THE CHANCE

[warm crag]

you'd love arms

[south kayak]

Too bad

Yeah just play arms

we're not gonna be pressing execute here

unless they rework shit

or buff it by more than 10%

[proper quest]

Is it only me that thinks arms is ass and clunky as hell

No flow at all

[south kayak]

no

[red berry]

nah they need to actually give execute reasons to be pressed like RB