fury

[granite oak]

If i can’t play the spec I want and we aren’t raiding for WF, CYA

[fickle jewel]

just kidding from blizz

[eager thorn]

Ok good for u fella

[meager gyro]

Look at all you doubters being proven wrong

We get a 5% buff

[fickle jewel]

prefer doomer to doubvter

[warped bone]

You sure you didn't do /simc in arms spec while still technically having both fury weps on you?

[abstract flower]

we're so back

[warped bone]

I tried that now and got https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4QkmXqXm6Y4KpWrFcqTyTA. It only shows 1 wep

[granite oak]

Thanks I guess?

[rough isle]

Question about rotation, right now priority is not including cds

Rampage
Execute
Blood bath
Crushing blow
Raging blow
Bloodthirst

Whirlwind/Odyns to refill whirlwind stacks

Feel like I’m capping out in pretty low in DPS, any tips on increase damage

[eager thorn]

why are u still replying

[warped bone]

But if i sim with only that 1 wep on me i get https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3S31QzugP4VTSDWMgqzkAL

[granite oak]

I didn’t know you’d get butthurt over nothing, myb man!

[slim coral]

Called it

[eager thorn]

im not butthurt but ur replying to me with useless stuff

[granite oak]

Gl with kyvez

Actually no. You complained and I gave you a logical answer to fix it that you I guess didn’t like lol

[acoustic yoke]

We got buffed and people fighting over what to play on ky'vesa prog

We eating good

[eager thorn]

again idk why ur continuin a conversation thats over

[acoustic yoke]

1st world issues now

[abstract flower]

as far as Im aware, execute is not that high prio, it's more filler unless youre in slayer and have 3 stacks/need to refresh and im pretty sure cb is more prio than bb

[gaunt moat]

I'm not awaken enough will we press execute outside of 3 stacks ?

[granite oak]

Butthurt af. Good bye

[eager thorn]

ok goodbye

[eager thorn]

execute is #1 prio

!!

[gaunt moat]

You swear?

[eager thorn]

no

if i did my parents would be angry at me

[gaunt moat]

Fck

[acoustic yoke]

You know the answer already

[gaunt moat]

[acoustic yoke]

10% execute dam won't save fury execute

[rough isle]

Thanks man will give that a try, do yall prioritize bloothirst or raging blow as filler? Always struggling with this one

[acoustic yoke]

It needs god

[gaunt moat]

But good enough

[frail trout]

if your in a guild that you think will pressure you to swap specs get comfortable with that I guess

[midnight kite]

they buffed our execute (vicious contempt) by 20%

[frail trout]

or play a class where you like all the specs

[gaunt moat]

I should go back to sleep shouldn't have checked the discord

[abstract flower]

i prio bt when im in thane but rb when im in slayer

[rough isle]

Also noticed some guides say to use rampage to keep enrage up only, but others saying rampage All the time, whenever it’s up, thought on that?

[frail trout]

I quit devastation evoker explicitly because they added aug to the game

[meager gyro]

Have you tried snap induction in thane tree for AM builds? @restive peak

[frail trout]

I wasn't about to let anyone pressure me into that

[inner zinc]

do the buffs to BT/BB indicate we might prio that instead of CB?

or is it too early ?

[gaunt moat]

We'll see in the coming days

[pulsar quest]

Press all buttons that glow and 99 parse

[restive peak]

Nope I’ve been using the 1 build cuz it’s so fun

[gaunt moat]

When the big brains make the maths

[inner zinc]

[arctic sinew]

Which build are you playing atm lincc? 2x VC w/o OF or?

[restive peak]

I spent awhile earlier saying why 5% would be a shit ton

Yeah OF is dead

[gaunt moat]

Now just more buff to fury exec and the world is perfect

[restive peak]

I think OF is dead in all content tbh

[pulsar quest]

It sucks I kinda like OF

Fun button

[frail trout]

it's not dead on broodtwister but thats an obvious edge case

[arctic sinew]

Been playing fdk this week so i'm out of date with the builds

[fickle jewel]

what to do instead of OF?

[restive peak]

It hits so few things and doesn’t even hit that hard anymore

[bleak bluff]

damn i thought OF was Only Fans...

[arctic sinew]

Need to try the new build you guys are running

[frail trout]

that's not quite how soft caps work, it hits everything

[restive peak]

I still think it’s dead on brood anyway; it won’t hit more than 1/3rd of adds on big sets

[frail trout]

it just gets penalized

huh?

[arctic sinew]

Do you notice a big diff in big pulls like 1st ara or NW without OF?

[restive peak]

And spiders living longer in 5t or lower = better dmg without it probably

[frail trout]

odyns fury doesn't have a hard target cap...I'm not smoking pot right?

[restive peak]

Yeah we’re back to not bursting like mad but steadily climbing, but more overall

[frail trout]

it got a soft cap nerf

[rough isle]

Seems most people using mountain thane for Aoe, anyone still rather slayer?

[restive peak]

Odyns is now 5T cap

[frail trout]

so it does damage squared to targets beyond 5

[restive peak]

It may be useful for brood/rashana/queen

[arctic sinew]

I mean sustained aoe is always more fun in higher keys

also better

[restive peak]

Tbh I hope it dies

[frail trout]

I'm 99% sure that it still hits all targets in range still but maybe I smoked some really good pot

[arctic sinew]

Yeah it hits but does 0 dmg outside of the 5

i think

[gilded estuary]

is this an okayish layout if not trying to min-max / do high keys? CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMjhBzywM2ghZYGmxwstNzYmZ2mZmxMGAWmZmZGDAAAEGAAAAAYZA

[frail trout]

damage squared is not 0

[steep lynx]

i thought it did reduced dmg past 5 targets and wasnt it at 8 targets before or am i capping

[frail trout]

think people forgot how soft caps work

[inner harbor]

both good just play what you prefer atm, thane slightly better in aoe and overall dps but the diff isn't big

[frail trout]

and how it reduces your damage

[rough isle]

Ty

[restive peak]

It’s still not a big amount anymore, and slayer for raid thane for m+ now and after the changes probably

[eager thorn]

I enjoy OF cos its smth else to press

And big aoe was fun

[restive peak]

You’re gonna potentially AM and have such high APM again you won’t miss OF

[proud leaf]

We don't really take Onslaught in anything right now, and giving up recklessness for whatever you have going on the left side of the spec tree here is whack

[arctic sinew]

OF felt way more fun in legion

idk why

[gaunt moat]

I actually just enjoy the free enrage of OF

[restive peak]

If you guys haven’t played AM w frenzied yet…you’ll see when you do

[arctic sinew]

Btw do you guys stack haste with AM or is it still around 20-24?

[restive peak]

You reck rav every 30s

[inner harbor]

i played it it's fun

[restive peak]

I have like 23% haste I think

[eager thorn]

This in m+?

[slim coral]

yeah it feels pretty good with frenzied

[steep lynx]

thats what i missed about fury was having cds every pull in m+ thats why i went prot and made a ret pally lol

[gaunt moat]

Depends on the tank but yh

[bitter palm]

die pe die

fuck pe

all my homies hate pe

evil ass talent

[arctic sinew]

@restive peak Double on hit or sac + onuse still?

[frail trout]

I don't think I will be reck rav every 30s in a pug 10 key that I'm doing to fill my vault but

I'll try it out at least

[gaunt moat]

Tell'em

[frail trout]

the pull cadence is simply not the same as pushing

and pack death speed

[bitter palm]

i wil!

[inland flame]

Anyone know if they fixed the crafting abuse thing with rings/trinks/weaps to get double crest cred?

[eager thorn]

We should be able to get pe and fe at same time

[arctic sinew]

5 days of playing fdk and i'm missing fury so much

[gaunt moat]

Usually tanks too slow so one more cast instead of 2

[restive peak]

Sac I have no transmitter and CBA

[meager gyro]

So buffs are great but not taking OF, Ons, and really any capstone of fury that isn’t unhinged, the play … so is it rework time again

[frail trout]

the capstones between unhinged and OF seem really, really bad

[snow edge]

Could always just do the double Mast on-use, but it's probably a marginal gain

[gaunt moat]

Probably next patch or later on reworked capstones

Cause rn most of them are dead

[inner zinc]

is the build basically standard build except frenzied instead of powerful and OF+Titanic into Vc and AM*?

[restive peak]

Too much effort

[eager thorn]

Idk what u guys are talking abt, the double bladestorm talent was sick for ?? Zekvir

[snow edge]

Lol you lazy sack

[restive peak]

Kinda, go to my armory or io I’m out of town tn sadly

[restive peak]

Facts

[snow edge]

I appreciate the honesty though

[gaunt moat]

Be careful or i'll force you to play onslaught that deals 20k more dmg than rb

[hard widget]

@restive peak CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAAagZGMMMDWwMzCMMjxDwMMzssNzYmZWYmZmZGmZsM8AYGDAAAEGDsBLLGNmBkZBWmxC

[restive peak]

I mean when I eventually get mythic transmitter I’ll probably use it for like..brood

[hard widget]

This one i think

[restive peak]

Ty bae

[eager thorn]

I like transmitter

[restive peak]

If that’s the one I sent you it is

[eager thorn]

Until i dont

[hard widget]

Yea it is

[serene vessel]

Chat are we good again

[gaunt moat]

How you feelin about the buffs my brother i haven't seen your reaction

[arctic sinew]

I liked transmitter until i played a few keys with shard and it's so nice not having to do that minigame

1 less thing to think about

[desert prairie]

How is fury after these buffs Tuesday?

[serene vessel]

Am I unretiring warrior?

[restive peak]

Very very very good

[hard widget]

For raid, this is quite massive. For m+ its nice and puts us more in line. I doubt that it will shake up the higher end however with Boomie getting these changes and Rogue in the state they are

[thin cliff]

#updates-midnight message

[eager thorn]

Is it actually that big

[restive peak]

Yes

[hard widget]

Im not very convinced it is THAT big

[arctic sinew]

It's def massive for raid but we'll see for m+

[restive peak]

We were in here earlier matching and found 5% buff overall with no other changes would make us upper middle for kyveza

So double that

Yeah it’s super fuckin good

[gaunt moat]

As long as we're middle of the pack we can push i hope i did give up on this m+ season only doing 10 it makes me want to try hard again

[hard widget]

Oh yeah for raid we're gaming

[eager thorn]

Its 10% buff?

[restive peak]

Now consider that number applied to aoe

[serene vessel]

Wait why double

[hard widget]

But for m+ i think we're about avarage with these changes

Maybe upper avarage

[meager gyro]

If they didn’t buff dmg I would assume without sims RA to be the play. They didn’t buff CB and still increased AM dmg too so idk if the BB will actually be a deciding factor for that choice node.

[restive peak]

Because this buff is likely to come out closer to 8-9% by the time we do talent changes

[serene vessel]

Oh nfm I see whst u mean

[eager thorn]

I guess I’m feeling more doomer abt fury cos if it doesnt fix pugging keys it isnt that great to me, but thats also prob too high of an expectation to have

[restive peak]

AM is going to be very strong

[snow edge]

Non-optimised builds form the numbers atm

[hard widget]

Im still weirded out how they "try to buff single target" on boomie and end up with Starfall buffs

Its mental

[arctic sinew]

Would it be worth going 2x VC over OF on rash?

the adds die in 1 sec anyway

[hard widget]

Do they not play the game themselves or?

[snow edge]

You can go 2x VC and still have OF anyway

[restive peak]

@quiet geyser cooked dropping ww talents for vc and I like that

[hard widget]

Like Boomie is gonna be omega broken on high end m+

[snow edge]

On Rash you don't need the WW buff really

Check out Anda's build on Warcraftlogs if you want a peek

[arctic sinew]

True actually

[restive peak]

Boomie is very hard to play at a super high level

[eager thorn]

I’m still gonna run OF on rash cos my guild makes me and the other fury be the only MT players

[restive peak]

Yes they’ll be the highest keys hut there won’t be enough to fill every group

[arctic sinew]

Since u can align all cds for adds so ww is kinda useless

[meager gyro]

I am with you on that 100p they doing stupid shit . Destro RoF, boomie star fall, and the buff just won’t make us any more desired for m+

[arctic sinew]

gonna try that

[hard widget]

Im not sure if i entirely agree

[barren ore]

Will our stat priorities change?

[snow edge]

It's more that the adds just evaporate; getting out WW and using the stacks is a super minimal aoe gain

[eager thorn]

Until ppl get hit by webs

[restive peak]

It is because it requires very consistent bear shifts to survive the damage as keys ramp

It’s not their DPS

[gaunt moat]

Do you play am or ra now on rashanan?

[hard widget]

Just like we stance dance on warrior

[restive peak]

It’s playing it perfectly defensively is required, it can’t even be covered for

We can eat a lot without dstance, they get one shot

[snow edge]

I still played RA this reset just gone

[gusty cloak]

which tane build you guys running now for m+?

[restive peak]

A lot will get to 13/14s after reroll and then crash out

[olive wraith]

Dps pugging is always hard

[gaunt moat]

Alright thanks my bro do you think am may be better purely in terms of parsing?

[eager thorn]

Yes but not being able to get into a single 12 after hours of applying just isnt right

[granite trout]

What was that build that JeventesTV posted? That's what you guys are rolling with now?

[restive peak]

Yeah

[granite trout]

Thane without odyns fury, w/ anger managerment?

[stone flume]

Fury warrior buffs incoming?

[granite trout]

roger that

[static rock]

massive buffs

anyone figured out what the new build is gonna be?

[inland flame]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[gaunt moat]

Big in raid middle upper tier in m+ probably

[stone flume]

Wooop!

[snow edge]

Maybe (?) with the changes come reset, but this week RA is the play

CDs already align really well with adds so AM doesn't add a huge amount of value

[cursive ridge]

Now will it be troll to run fury on kyveza is the question

[arctic sinew]

Only thing i want now is massive execute & something to make crit% prio again

[gaunt moat]

Alright i see thanks big bro i'll go RA then

[spare steppe]

arms>>fury from the updates but no idea what % >> is

[gaunt moat]

We'll get big execute one day again! Don't despair!

[hybrid snow]

not again!!

[eager thorn]

I mean didnt arms get very buffed from this

[spare steppe]

9% ST yeah

[pearl sequoia]

Arms will remain under the water until the spec is fun to play again

[manic tapir]

Huh? Isn't slayer arms the no1 ST war spec now

[snow edge]

There's an actual % chart in the updates channel; but that's without build optimisation

[gaunt moat]

From the exec buff yh that's the only thing missing for me a big fury exec buff 🙏

Make VC buff exec instead of bt 👀

[vocal fog]

R we saved guys?

[acoustic yoke]

Doesn't even have to be execute tbf, just give me a meaty button to press

[spare steppe]

looks ~2% ahead without build optimization

[arctic sinew]

Make VC increase exec crit% by 50% per point and change jugg into an infinitely stacking bleed with every exec

[acoustic yoke]

BT doesn't have that heft

Or raging

[eager thorn]

No i like seeing 2m bts

[gaunt moat]

Nobody wants infinite stacking!

[snow edge]

Yeh pretty minimal atm; but always 'subject to change'

[gaunt moat]

We want % missing health dmg on exec

[arctic sinew]

I just want some bleed back

[eager thorn]

It feels kinda weird that we even execute before execute phase at all

[arctic sinew]

Deep wounds SFX gave me dopamine

[acoustic yoke]

I want execute to spawn a giant sword from the sky sub 35% that blows shit up

[eager thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/gren-mechanics-garen-mechanics-league-of-legends-gif-25382808

[acoustic yoke]

Exactly

[eager thorn]

Tbh thats what spear should be

Not some shitty little circle on the floor

[gaunt moat]

Nah guys that's too paladin like

[eager thorn]

Make it not yellow

Fixed

[acoustic yoke]

Just make it sargaras sword

Ez

[gaunt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dunkmaster-darius-gif-24816693

Make it darius ult

[eager thorn]

Is this the 1 in silithus

[acoustic yoke]

What sword in Silithus?

[eager thorn]

The big one in anduin cinematic

[gaunt moat]

No idea what he's talking about

[acoustic yoke]

^

Yapping about imaginary swords

When we can be theorycrafting dunk moves

[keen fulcrum]

I parsed gray for Mythic Horror. 🙂

[inner shadow]

petition to make execute using an axe a guillotine vf

[eager thorn]

This one

[acoustic yoke]

I see no sword wtf

[gaunt moat]

I see the sky

?

[eager thorn]

Am i not in on a joke

[acoustic yoke]

Just two dudes looking at the horizon

[eager thorn]

[vocal fog]

What sword is he talking abt

[gaunt moat]

( blizzard said the sword doesn't exist to fix their storyline)

[eager thorn]

Oh

I think that may cause some issues now

[acoustic yoke]

My parse is currently grey cause no one uploaded log on our other kills

[keen fulcrum]

I mean

[acoustic yoke]

Rip my 88

[vocal fog]

@eager thorn there is no sword wtf u talking abt

[keen fulcrum]

I died, but still

[eager thorn]

This is gaslighting and i will not take it

[gaunt moat]

Don't worry did my first rashanan mythic this week died my guild still killed got that juicy 2 parse

[acoustic yoke]

(They just never acknowledged it's existence in storylines for 3 exp)

[eager thorn]

I dont get to parse on bloodbound cos i have to kill the add that spawns by itself :)

[gaunt moat]

Bahahahaha

[acoustic yoke]

My Hunters do those wtf

[gaunt moat]

That's crazy idiotic to put a fury on them

Ngl

[eager thorn]

Yeah idk

[acoustic yoke]

That's cyberbullying lowkey

[eager thorn]

We have mage and hunter that could replace me

[arctic sinew]

being 2nd soak grp on bloodhound is cancer

[gaunt moat]

True aswell

[acoustic yoke]

Eh

[vocal fog]

@eager thorn r u still seeing the sword?

[arctic sinew]

Watching everyone else get 99 parses

for free

[acoustic yoke]

You can make 2nd soak work

[nocturne salmon]

well a few buff is on the way

[eager thorn]

I know the joke about it not being acknowledged now!!

[still ibex]

That's my latest Horror log

[eager thorn]

With am on bloodbound you could prob have most cds back for 2nd soak

[vocal fog]

Hahahaha love u my fellow warrior!

[verbal kernel]

💀

[gaunt moat]

Mythic horror parses are dependant on too many thing ngl

[eager thorn]

I’m not a warrior rn sorry

I’m a rogue

[keen fulcrum]

I was outlaw in DF.

Missing it real hard rn

[arctic sinew]

I genuinely don't know how you'd parse 99+ on 2nd soak

[acoustic yoke]

If it's an consolation I can't parse on Ulgrax mythic cause my bladestorm is saved to break webs so we can feed the boss

Still got 83 though so ez

[nocturne salmon]

its fun atm.

[gaunt moat]

Are you first wave? Are the adds packed? Is your tank not sleeping to bring the big dude on the casters?

[gaunt moat]

Wtf did i just read

[snow edge]

That is.. terrible and unnecessary

[worldly cave]

gorribal

[acoustic yoke]

Worst part to this is we have like 3 dks

[eager thorn]

Hey guys what stat weights should i prio

[opal sapphire]

there is no way???

[acoustic yoke]

And they aren't assigned their ams

[nocturne salmon]

dont you have a pala?

[gaunt moat]

Nah bro tell them to fuck off then

[acoustic yoke]

We have yes

[opal sapphire]

get a new guild buddy

[acoustic yoke]

[nocturne salmon]

thry can just use freedom lol

[gaunt moat]

Probably a rogue in your raid aswell right?

[acoustic yoke]

Yes

[lusty jungle]

are we buffed

[gaunt moat]

Bro

[acoustic yoke]

We have the options

[gaunt moat]

You're getting scammed

Tell them to fuck off

[acoustic yoke]

But apparently I am the only man for the job

[nocturne salmon]

actually trolling you lol

[acoustic yoke]

[eager thorn]

The worst part is ur doing bs on damage reduction phase

[acoustic yoke]

I assume this is some initiation ritual or something

[nocturne salmon]

and people say warriors are dumb but this is next level

[eager thorn]

Like clearing webs with it normally isnt that awful

But before feeding is laughable

[gaunt moat]

Screen this chat and tell them they're actually dumb i swear

[timid kernel]

Yes fury is getting a few buffs

[eager thorn]

Just spec into ravager

Tell them u cant do it anymore

[worldly cave]

dont play theif

[acoustic yoke]

Plus I told my raid lead twice that I'm just trolling by doing this and they never say anything back

[nocturne salmon]

it looks like a pretty big buff tl me

[gaunt moat]

Yh tell them ravager is meta now

Then use bladestorm

[tardy bough]

we are getting buff yay😅

[nocturne salmon]

not sure how much it eill do though

[fiery jetty]

no body is talking about the buff???

[gaunt moat]

And if they ask it's ravager

[tardy bough]

that too in hard week of m+

[acoustic yoke]

New ravager animation dropped

[eager thorn]

hey guys I’m playing thane now so i cant bladestorm the webs, can dks use ams to replace me?
”yes”
use bs anyway like chad

[nocturne salmon]

i taöked about it a few minutes ago

but i think no one noticed

[untold trench]

Finally a buff lol

[gaunt moat]

Bro even the rogue is not doing it that's crazy

[young swan]

@restive peak spear owns

[eager thorn]

Idk what rogues can do

[acoustic yoke]

You know the real icing on the cake too?

[untold trench]

I don't like it

[eager thorn]

If it isnt a fury ability i have 0 clue

[tardy bough]

they increased our base dmg so good

[gaunt moat]

Shadowcloak

[untold trench]

I hate the gameplay of it

[acoustic yoke]

They gave transmitter to another warrior that wasn't even put into prog

[young swan]

why

[gaunt moat]

Huh

?

[nocturne salmon]

cloak id like 2+ min cooldown on a super strong defensive

[arctic sinew]

Spear is actual cancer

[young swan]

there isnt gameplay to it anymore

[inland flame]

Roar is too much easier to use to convince me to use Spear unless it's like 20% ahead

[frail trout]

ur loot council sounds troll

[gaunt moat]

My bro they don't like you Kunta

[acoustic yoke]

I'm out here displaying loyalty unlike no other

[untold trench]

Being forced to stand in a singular place when there's always shit everywhere lol

[young swan]

i feel like u guys think u still have to stand in it

[eager thorn]

That got changed lol

[young swan]

u dont have to stand in it lmfao

[gaunt moat]

Are they friends? Or you joined lately?

[untold trench]

Oh the it lol

Had no idea lol

[acoustic yoke]

My headcanon is they misclicked on rclootcouncil

[tardy bough]

same happened with me xD

[untold trench]

🤣

[frail trout]

spear radius to actually hit all mobs in a pack is still baby small

[inland flame]

Roar is huge and I don't have to worry about movement simple as

[acoustic yoke]

Or it's the cope

[gaunt moat]

Mentally yes i'm stuck

[frail trout]

I don't like spear for that reason

not all packs snap together that close

[glad coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

[eager thorn]

Spear slaps tho

And i can endorse slap

[lunar wyvern]

!!!!

[gaunt moat]

Did you join the guild late or are they friends? Cause if they're friends they don't like you and are talking behind your back at this point

[sly tapir]

Spear tether visually stays on monsters that are dragged out (assuming the monster is cc immune) so I think you keep the damage and crit damage buff

[smoky wraith]

uhm casual question but if i play like 9-11 keys slayer or mt ?

[untold trench]

Bring back spear ropes pull in thing and use it to fuck with mobs with someone blowing them a way only to snap back lol

[acoustic yoke]

Well it's a friends guild he was trying to get me to join so I did so I think they tolerate me cause of him ngl

[eager thorn]

Plus if we’re dropping OF theres less value in roar and Thunderous words

[acoustic yoke]

[eager thorn]

So spear stonks up

[glad coyote]

wonder what talents we change

[nocturne salmon]

probably nothing but idk

[warped orbit]

Are the buffs live?

[short cobalt]

This nbuff seems for for ST

[gaunt moat]

The only issue with spears is actual big packs like necrotic wake without a dk/dh to grab all

[short cobalt]

Then aoe tho

[acoustic yoke]

The thing is we do skip hc runs to get our casters the spymasters yet doing ky'vesa is just too much work apparently

[short cobalt]

I want big numbers

[acoustic yoke]

[upbeat plume]

I mean probably not much, I think the only difference is opportunist for slayer the other option was already pretty close will probably be better

[sly tapir]

Tuesday

[worldly cave]

play mountain king vs blade master

[gaunt moat]

Bruh

[untold trench]

As long as we don't go to AM in happy lol i hate what it does to CDs and timings

[eager thorn]

Tuesday/wed

[warped orbit]

Daum have to wait to be mediocre

[upbeat plume]

these changes are probably a net neutral for am vs ra so they will stay competitive with eachother so you can use wtv

[gaunt moat]

You should talk to your friend to find out if they actually want you here

I swear

[nocturne salmon]

on reset

[acoustic yoke]

I'm the only warrior they have so they do for my shout lmao

[smoky wraith]

i just started 2 weeks ago ty for advice

[velvet bluff]

maybe he just rolled higher?

[gaunt moat]

Tell them kyveza or no shout

[glad coyote]

at least warriors are off suicide watch now

[inland flame]

Shame Arms is going to be hugely better ST getting huge BBs on Patchwerk fights would be fun.

[gaunt moat]

Then no bladestorms on silk on ulgrax or no shout

[frail trout]

to be fair I think spymasters is in another dimension so if you wanted to trim some farm time you would drop the melee trinket boss

[acoustic yoke]

But also for some reason of all 3 of my friends in the raid I'm the only one still with trial raider status

[sudden tusk]

ITS CANDY BUCKET TIME

[acoustic yoke]

[frail trout]

but obviously the melee one is very good

[gaunt moat]

For how long?

[nocturne salmon]

havent had a raid roll win for 3 weeks

[glad coyote]

who cares fury is better in m+

[acoustic yoke]

Since 5 weeks ago

[gaunt moat]

BRO you're getting shat on

You gotta talk

[inland flame]

Kinda want to try Arms Colossus in M+ just to see tho.

[gaunt moat]

That's not normal

[sudden tusk]

would you still love me @sullen dove

[worldly cave]

i think MT and slayer just same performance

in m+ not detail.

[acoustic yoke]

I'm sure they have they're reasons or something. Mostly just doing it to play with my friends anyway so it's whatevs

Worst case I parse good and we jump ship end of season

[eager thorn]

LOL

[gaunt moat]

Don't deny your fun for them tho

[brittle crow]

spear and roar literally the same button

..

[inland flame]

SIMPLE

AS

[brittle crow]

u press it with avatar, u get damage

there is 0 difference in how either r played

[inner shadow]

we died on the pre last boss pull cuz pala didnt want tofreedom tank, but other than that xd

[brittle crow]

rn

[rocky thistle]

buffs...

[acoustic yoke]

Playing WoW is a denial of fun in general for us

[inner shadow]

ik let me cope

a bit

[rocky thistle]

see folks, complaining works

[inner shadow]

[rocky thistle]

we complain we get buffs

in fact we should sell this as nerf

[long smelt]

ya raging and crushing blow didnt get buffed

therefore its a nerf

[inland flame]

shoulda been a 3% aura buff smdh

the real way to fix a spec

[clever path]

blizzard hates warriors because of what we represent so this is a nerf

[gaunt moat]

[inland flame]

i feel like letting us weild a third 2-hander would solve all of our balance issues

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-one-piece-zoro-zoro-zoro-smirk-one-piece-smirk-gif-26290707

[undone palm]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-guts-berserk-dance-guts-dance-gif-25839624

lets fucking go

[inland flame]

thanks for reminding me there's a new chapter

[young swan]

spear owns

[vernal terrace]

Does the coaglamation take extra phys damage in City of Threads? Feel like I do 20% more dps on this boss atleast

[snow edge]

Yes

[inner shadow]

hm?

[tidal kindle]

Wym

I been saying that

[tidal kindle]

Been sayin that too...

[young swan]

been saying it longer

eff u kiddo

[tidal kindle]

??

Xan tryna rewrite history

[forest ginkgo]

Spear is back for m+???

Oh gods bfa is coming back to me

[tidal kindle]

"Fuck spear wahwah never playing wahwah roar gang wahwah"

- Xan

[lime plaza]

No shot they are buffing warrior. I must be delusional

[tidal kindle]

[young swan]

it owns

fuck you

my idea

taking it

just like i took streamer idea

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/NSXR.gif

[forest ginkgo]

Is there any build on wowhead for it or?

[tidal kindle]

Blue name oppression

[inner shadow]

does it really own?

[uneven maple]

Trainee here. Is Single-Minded Fury okay to run, now?

[tidal kindle]

Blueorgeousie swine

[inner shadow]

or u just overgeared fuck?

[tidal kindle]

Keeping down the stormforgedetariat

[young swan]

this is what im running

[brittle crow]

fruiter stormforged when

[young swan]

im only 631

[inner shadow]

slayer with spear??

[young swan]

which is considerably less geared than some of the other freaks in here

[faint whale]

No frenzied?

[forest ginkgo]

Cheers, gonna try it when i do my next key

[young swan]

nah fuck that talent

[forest ginkgo]

I expect great things

[inner shadow]

what the fuck is even your opener?

[forest ginkgo]

GREAT THINGS

[hard widget]

633.75 😎

[young swan]

its thane

[forest ginkgo]

Thane is bae

[young swan]

slayer would work too

[inner shadow]

hmm

[brittle crow]

why are we playing the ramp reck talent

its bad??

[inner shadow]

my think seems sus

[tawdry lily]

yea but after last night, it was entertaining to flame you

[acoustic yoke]

We are?

[brittle crow]

oh wait

is that doi

[young swan]

all of our capstones are bad

when they're all bad, none of them are bad

[median dust]

Man we are so back boys

[acoustic yoke]

Kinda based Xan wtf

[gaunt moat]

[tidal kindle]

You can't flame me if I make the same point you're trying to make

Before you make it

[inner shadow]

whats the opener g

lemme try it

[tidal kindle]

Literally xanpilled

[young swan]

idk i literally just charge in and slam my buttons

[tawdry lily]

watch me

[young swan]

havent thought about opener at all

[inner shadow]

fuck u mean ?

give me

the code

of talents

imma try it now

in a 8 key

see how this shit works

[brittle crow]

u lazy fuck

[young swan]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAgRDMGMMMDWGYWghZmxMjhZmltZGzMzGmZmZGmZsMMYGDAAAEmZW2GbsZZzMNmZGmMLMWMWA

[brittle crow]

click stuff urself

...

[honest sundial]

what dungeon is it

[young swan]

sv...

[eager thorn]

Bro didn’t even say please

[inner shadow]

bro

[honest sundial]

level?

[inner shadow]

stonevault

and 1.7m?

[young swan]

someone asked the forbidden question

[inner shadow]

a +4 the adds die in 2 sec

[tidal kindle]

Spear does own

[young swan]

nah it was 11, just doing weekly keys

[eager thorn]

That doesnt look like fury

[honest sundial]

i mean 1.7 in stonevault definitely doesn't make spear own

[young swan]

nah it owns

[inner shadow]

it doesnt

lmfao

[young swan]

it does

[inner shadow]

stonevault is so full of nice packs

[gaunt moat]

True

[inner shadow]

aint no way spear owns

how tf is it gonna own

[young swan]

spear owns

how is it not gonna own

answer me that

[inner shadow]

3 bursts

[acoustic yoke]

Spear does damage tbf

[young swan]

its the same spell as roar

[inner shadow]

vs 1 spinny?

i know

[inland flame]

I'm just glad we have important talents in both of our trees that we can tear ourselves apart over

[inner shadow]

but u dont have odyns fury tho

[honest sundial]

i suggest renaming to "spear owns" @young swan

[young swan]

yeah OF is shit

[inner shadow]

idk about that one chief

[acoustic yoke]

But also spear has the radius of a thimble so I don't like it

[inner shadow]

what did u replace it with?

[eager thorn]

I dont like spear cos i miss it all the time

[inner shadow]

[tidal kindle]

GSpear

[young swan]

2xVC

[eager thorn]

Got stevie wonder aim when that thing comes out

[young swan]

more prio

[inner shadow]

what the fuck is vc

[young swan]

instead of pad damage

[eager thorn]

Vicious contempt

Vc owns

[inner shadow]

i see

ye vc

[acoustic yoke]

[inner shadow]

bloodbath

[gaunt moat]

The talent that adds dmg to bt below 35% life

[inner shadow]

it could work big

with new buff

vc could be big

[mossy fox]

i'm a big believer in VC over OF

[eager thorn]

It already is big

[brittle crow]

does no RA mean u just prio bloodthirst over rb in aoe

mash burst of power twice

?

[eager thorn]

It feels a lot nicer imo

[acoustic yoke]

OF sucks now

[upbeat plume]

oh as in 2 pts in that instead of the odyns talents for m+?

[eager thorn]

Just have to not skill issue and forget to enrage before popping cds

[gaunt moat]

Maybe it'll finally make the rotation be bloodthirst centric as they announced it during the beta

[acoustic yoke]

But I keep it cause remembering to muscle memory enrage at the start is not where I want my life to head

[hard widget]

People got loads of aoe already, makes sense tbh

[young swan]

idk im just pressing buttons

[brittle crow]

based

[hard widget]

Might as well make ST our niche

[inner shadow]

how does the prio

work here?

[young swan]

press ur buttons

[inner shadow]

lmfao

[young swan]

slam rampage a lot

idk

AM is braindead

literal toddler spec

[acoustic yoke]

Rampage till you can't rampage no more

[eager thorn]

Whyd you have to put it like that

[acoustic yoke]

Then rampage some more

[gaunt moat]

Bgl it's simple press bt bress rb get rage press rampage ignore exec gg wp

[proud portal]

Apparently fury wasn't nerfed enough 😔

[inland flame]

what does the word "prio" mean I just mash my keyboard when the buttons light up

[acoustic yoke]

AM slayer was the chosen one

Now it's AM thane

[eager thorn]

[brittle crow]

so am i supposed to have

a reck rava macro now

..

[tacit hill]

You haven’t had this for years?

[inland flame]

you don't already? been meta since BFA

[acoustic yoke]

I definitely don't

[brittle crow]

oh i do have one

LMAO

ive been pressing my reck rava macro then pressing my rava button thinking it did smth .,.

i am smart

[acoustic yoke]

Which means I need to make one

[brittle crow]

/cast recklessness
/cast ancestral call
/cast [@cursor] Ravager

here u go

play maghar orc

[gusty cloak]

champion might build better for thane?

[inland flame]

if you're the best race in the game troll pop Berserking into that thing too

numbahz

[brittle crow]

troll mains are based

wish i was a troll main

wtf reck charge doesnt give enough rage to ramp without RA

[inland flame]

tha world is ur oyster

[brittle crow]

this sucks

[brittle crow]

i already sold my soul for bruto

i have nothin left

[acoustic yoke]

Danke

[gaunt moat]

I want to become a dwarf do i have to pay for faction change aswell?

[inland flame]

LOL Crit looks so happy in his new thumbnail

[nimble ermine]

no?

[acoustic yoke]

I play night elf

[inland flame]

what a qtpi

[acoustic yoke]

Cause I trust myself to get blown up

[brittle crow]

why is dornogol so fuckin laggy rn wtf

[gaunt moat]

I just wanna be dwarf and have a big beard

[inland flame]

Troll beards when Blizz

[brittle crow]

with xan's cook build i press bt so much more than rb

[inland flame]

It's bad enough our scoliosis messes up roungly 67% of the unique cloaks

[brittle crow]

i feel like i need to change my keybinds like i did w/ annihilator build

am thane feels a lot like annihilator

TBH

this opener is clunk as shit tho

forced to press something unenraged

[undone palm]

worgen sprint gang here

[brittle crow]

wait nvm im dumb

[gaunt moat]

What do you mean

You don't press burst unenraged right?

[inland flame]

Charge isn't enough rage for a Ramp by itself and you need to get enraged before you send everything

[mild arch]

anyone know how much of a % overall buff the changes are?

[inland flame]

RA gives you rage when you hit Reck which makes it enough

[brittle crow]

the lag in dornogol ate my avatar input

[keen fulcrum]

-5%

[gaunt moat]

Oh that yeah

[brittle crow]

if u press avatar

u have enough for ramp

[inland flame]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[brittle crow]

but then u have no whirlwind

so u prob unenraged clap anyways

cd reset by ava

[acoustic yoke]

Unenraged clap?

Rather stub my toe

[hasty forum]

we did it boys we made it

finally some warrior buffs

[inland flame]

I miss the Fresh Meat days tbh

[hasty forum]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-disappointed-thanos-gif-14252325

[gaunt moat]

Fresh meat should be baseline i swear

[acoustic yoke]

With the amount of BT we press now fresh meat would be goated

[glad coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/we're-back-baby-rick-sanchez-morty-smith-rick-and-morty-we've-returned-my-friends-gif-305458341981810714

[inner shadow]

@young swan ty for the talents but wtf is this
in dawnbreaker

[hasty forum]

can you share pls

[inner shadow]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7MAAAAAAAAAgRDMGMMMDWGYWghZmxMjhZmltZGzMzGmZmZGmZsMMYGDAAAEmZW2GbsZZzMNmZGmMLMWMWA

[brittle crow]

these new talents are kinda rly fun

[glad coyote]

what key level?

[brittle crow]

i wonder what the rage situation is tho

do i overcap to press tblast? probably

do i overcap to cycle more bloodthirsts? idk

[inner shadow]

8

[hasty forum]

ty

[tidal kindle]

BoP + VC

Machine gun 3 bts in a row

[mossy fox]

yeeee i love that

[hasty forum]

is mountain thane actually the best in m+ ?

[tidal kindle]

[mossy fox]

20% bigger number when that happens next week

that's gonna feel good

[gaunt moat]

You gonna tweak with arms a bit crit?

[mossy fox]

yes

[tidal kindle]

Spear colarms

📈

Demolish stonking

[mossy fox]

i don't expect to swap to arms

[tidal kindle]

Heard it here first

[mossy fox]

but some arms content is overdue

[gaunt moat]

Which one? Slayer or colossus? I wanna try colossus

[mossy fox]

both

[glad coyote]

how is spear better next week compared to this week

[tidal kindle]

Demolish final hit +15%

📈

[inner shadow]

can i have the talent tree for dis please?

[tidal kindle]

Cleave +20% + Blademaster torment + bonegrinder

HOLY

[rugged hill]

HI

[gaunt moat]

I'll ask dumb questions about arms rotation next week i count on you!!

[tidal kindle]

I cook dumb shit and offload to crit to test

[rugged hill]

ARE WE BACK?

[tidal kindle]

[glad coyote]

i never left

[chrome wraith]

all aboard the thane train boys

[grim prism]

yo cake of crit, u think they overcooked a little with the fury buffs? mainly asking about the BT and RB buffs

[gaunt moat]

Wait arms have merciless bonegrinder?

[grim prism]

i worry that we might end up in a elemental situation

[gaunt moat]

[gaunt moat]

We won't

[tidal kindle]

The reap buff would be the bigger scare

[gaunt moat]

We'll be rly good in raid and middle upper tier in m+

I think

[heavy dock]

No way we are getting buffs

[hardy cargo]

Elemental is getting fucking owned anyways

[heavy dock]

Insane

[grim prism]

i think itll be the other way around

[hardy cargo]

-10% st, -20% aoe

[inner shadow]

[grim prism]

are u from the future

[hardy cargo]

Ele also already caught one nerf and a bug fix that nerfed them again

[hasty forum]

bro leaking next week dps stats

[inner shadow]

i just did a dawnbreaker 8 im farming crest

[cunning basin]

Slayer vs MT with AM - What's goated?

[calm quartz]

Meanwhile bm hunters

It's so funny the community literally does all their work for them

And they still can't tune properly

[storm birch]

I didn’t expect buffs that nice I thought we’d getting another baby buff

[inner shadow]

5k off greatness

[storm birch]

Those are actually solid af

[nimble ermine]

i mean they said they didnt expect ele shammy to be this overtuned

like none of them tested the fucking changes

lmao

[calm quartz]

What is a QA team

[inner shadow]

i think AM could be the new go, with this new bt buff n shi

vc does more than of does that i just saw

[eternal lance]

[gaunt moat]

He was speaking about arms my friend

[inner shadow]

he spoke of vc

is that arms too?

tf

[short cobalt]

can I SPell reflect anything on first boss of raid

[indigo arch]

I thought I was being trolled when told of it, surely fury isn't getting buffed

It's so strong as is

[heavy dock]

No sadly

[gaunt moat]

Look the messages he sent just before it's ok xd

[indigo arch]

/s

[short cobalt]

ah kkk

\how about 2nd 🙏

[random hill]

We got buffed :OOO

praise lord

and jesus

[heavy dock]

Only thing reflectable in raid is takazj bolts

[random hill]

and Critcake

[heavy dock]

But that requires boss to be aggroed to u :D

[indigo arch]

Now I wonder if it will be enough to beat ele/muti/ret/fdk in keys

[inland flame]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQQCkBEkOadsvO4sTphB1RwzC6Z_3kq00IFaBrCk5Eagz2Jeoox7D7Rk3XwXMINbh4lUg9Vr-3RgoB2/pubhtml

[heavy dock]

And some stuff on ansurek

[indigo arch]

muti got a handslap nerf lmao

[random hill]

biggest suprise afer comming back from work f yea!

[short cobalt]

DANKS

[inland flame]

ye

[sonic cedar]

It won’t be enough but we will be relevant again

Also ele is getting dumped on and enh nerfs are pretty bad too

[inner shadow]

@gaunt moat have u got these talents?

[indigo arch]

Figured as much, shame.

next time is warrior utility

banners, shouts, endless things of the sort they can pick from

[odd star]

GLORY TO THE FAITHFUL!!!!

[heavy dock]

I can confirm this feels great

[indigo arch]

next thing* rather

[nimble ermine]

surely doing keys at 6 am will be a good idea

[odd star]

Buffs!!!!

[mossy fox]

we don't need to be as good as them honestly

[heavy dock]

Go to sleep bro

[mossy fox]

i'm happy with what we got

[nimble ermine]

no i woke up at 7 pm

[heavy dock]

[gaunt moat]

As long as we're good enough to not feel like shit

[nimble ermine]

we could get a bigger execute buff though

[spare hull]

I woke up at 02:00

[gaunt moat]

Someday

[indigo arch]

I'm happy we even got buffed, but just once singular time I want ppl to see fury warrs in an m+ listing and go "Oh, a fury warr I better inv"

[nimble ermine]

i kinda hate not pressing it as thane

like ever

[heavy dock]

50% execute buff for slayer spec

[indigo arch]

But i'll take being saved from mediocrity I guess

[spare hull]

I kiss execute being stronk and one of the main war flavours tbh

[nimble ermine]

idk make vc also affect execute or something man idk

[echo meteor]

If we drop roar and of, are we also dropping bloodborne for a different node?

[inner shadow]

y got talents?

[nimble ermine]

anything at this point

[indigo arch]

they could have pulled a bfa s1 and left fury dead entire season

[restive peak]

Ayo love you but fuck spear

[heavy dock]

Its in one of crit’s vids

[indigo arch]

fuck spear

they need to increase the radius

[gaunt moat]

What do you mean we got that juicy 3% aura buff in bfa!

[indigo arch]

kek

[heavy dock]

Difference is, this expac isnt dogshit like bfa was

[indigo arch]

I just remember stupid things like what arms could do during vectis and other stuff

[clever path]

I want fae stomp back. Give me knockdowns for days and damage

[indigo arch]

things fury couldn't dream of

[oblique breach]

So what’s the better? Slayer or mountain

[dry hawk]

Did bloodbath being buffed make AM way less again?

[indigo arch]

idk I liked bfa, fury slapped too

Juicy burst with bote

[heavy dock]

Slayer st, mountain man aoe

[nimble ermine]

idk man fwar during TEP was so fucking fun

[gaunt moat]

I jusr remember meeting lot of ppl here in bfa and having fun ngl

[oblique breach]

For mythic, Mountain?

[nimble ermine]

too bad that patch made me quit because of benthic farm

[heavy dock]

I only played pre m+ patch in bfa

Then in eternal palace

A bit

[nimble ermine]

ye

tep is eternal palace

blood of the enemy how i miss you

give it to us warriors

[sly tapir]

Is the build for broodtwister gunna stay mostly the same

[inland flame]

BFA had its ups and downs. But essences was a pretty good system. Being crazy OP at the end w corruptions was fun.

[heavy dock]

I remember i mythic raided

[nimble ermine]

remove reck give us bote

[heavy dock]

Up to ashvane

[odd star]

RA slayer for raid + arms on st + am/ra THANE for keys right??

[dry hawk]

I miss end of legion bloodbath execute

[inland flame]

Farming a Geti'ikku kinda sucked tho.

[nimble ermine]

just get lucky 4head

[heavy dock]

Skorpyron bloodbath was a thing i remember being funny

[nimble ermine]

its gonna be the same next season when KR comes back 100%

[heavy dock]

Nah next season we get motherlode

[indigo arch]

hated trying to get an ilvl capped butcher block

[heavy dock]

Cuz goblin raid i heard? Or sm shit

[inland flame]

I'd say >fortified Shade of Zul but every week is fort Shade of Zul now

[odd star]

ramp buff is big for am tho

[dry hawk]

True

[odd star]

am press ramps a bit more

[heavy dock]

But imo i dislike all dungeons from bfa

Lol

[dry hawk]

You press it feels almost every other global

[inland flame]

Underrot was a banger tho

[odd star]

bfa dgs are too much hassle. too much gimmicky stuff for me

underrot is goated true

[heavy dock]

I didnt like underrot either

[inland flame]

I kinda liked Mechagon upper too for some reason

[heavy dock]

2nd boss woth pugs was horrible

[nimble ermine]

underrot was such a banger

[dry hawk]

Try a 15 min atal dazar .. that was bonkers

[heavy dock]

They should just do a funny next season and put a classic dungeon in m+

[nimble ermine]

no lets not do that actually

[heavy dock]

As a 9th optional dungeon

[modest condor]

brd would make for a perfect dungeon

[nimble ermine]

no!

[heavy dock]

Yea all 22 bosses

[inland flame]

The farthest back I ever want them to reach is WotLK and that's because of nostalgia those dungeons would need huge reworks

[dry hawk]

Add strat back please, got to get the poison resist

[heavy dock]

Or better, dire maul north, but you gotta play hunter and solo tribute

[runic acorn]

any of yall gonna make an arms build when you swap to ST bosses?

[nimble ermine]

even some of the legion dungeons would need some touch ups if they come back tbh

[dry hawk]

I have one but I beat our arms as fury right now

[heavy dock]

Well they did come back

[nimble ermine]

well come back again

[inland flame]

Give me Maw of Souls back my body is ready

[heavy dock]

I want maw of souls

[nimble ermine]

dunno man even back in legion NL lair was a cooked dungeon

other than first pull

which was fun

ok i cannot say the bad c word

[heavy dock]

Nl in df was super fun cuz of reflects ngl

[nimble ermine]

can i say penis

ok i can say that

[inland flame]

Eye of Azshara could be a banger

[heavy dock]

Yea 5 bosses no thx

[nimble ermine]

EoA would be a mockery because our execute would do nothing on last boss

[dry hawk]

Last boss execute buff

[heavy dock]

Just give us old massacre

[modest condor]

just spec into

[nimble ermine]

YES SIL

BUT I WANT MY FUNNY BUTTON

TO DO THE DAMAGE

not bt

[heavy dock]

And we can have the funny execute rampage execute rampage

[nimble ermine]

although its kinda funny seeing the damage numberes bt can do with vc

and thane buff

[dry hawk]

Can they make execute fun to hit again please

[inland flame]

I just like the dungeon tbh. Couple of decent cleave bosses and getting to patchwerk in execute.

Don't hate the layout.

[heavy dock]

I want dungeons i can use my spell reflect in

This season is very flaccid in that regard

[nimble ermine]

can they bring cot back, but like only the ring and nothing else

[modest condor]

there are a lot of tank busters you can taunt reflect

[inland flame]

At least we can be kind of useful of Erudax weak smile

[heavy dock]

Yea from trash?

Lol

[nimble ermine]

ye even gb has some of those

issue is i tried it in a pug

well

it didnt end well

[heavy dock]

And half of them are deflects

Idk how i managed to time my taunt reflects so well in df lol

Prob cuz i explained it to the tank at every dung start

[nimble ermine]

i mean this season you have so many X bolt spells to reflect anyway

in dungeons

[heavy dock]

Sure but

Those dont feel good

[nimble ermine]

dont care when i hear the funny noise my brain produces serotonin

love it when they all sync cast on me as well

and i get to pop it

[heavy dock]

Im pretty sure there is no tank buster you can reflect

This season

[inland flame]

I pug so much I'm so jaded on reflects. Every spell I try to reflect is the only thing my groups kick sometimes.

[nimble ermine]

from bosses? no

from trash ye

[heavy dock]

They are all split magic phys

[nimble ermine]

gb has some i know that for sure

[heavy dock]

Gb has lava fist and shadowflame slash

[nimble ermine]

ye