#fury
1 messages · Page 878 of 1
Archim we need numbers meow
PUMP US MORE DADDY BLIZZ. I WANT TO REACH THE MOON
We did it
it's a start i can get down with
6-7%
hes typing let him cook lol
like can we make the 10% execute damage into like 100% damage buff on fury
if not going for min/max or super high keys how far behind would single minded fury be?
other discord talking shit about us
wheres my legendary math nerds. smol brain need big number to understand
I mean, its w after w surely. Now it's whether its enough to catch up to specs above us.
Me reading those buffs coming in and realizing we're so back
screw the mages and boomkins
In honor of the buffs im buying the brutosaur mount today
Oh man, how are the guides gonna be affected by this??? Please let Slayer be great for M+ again!!
just saw warrior buffs in news
am I dreaming
Are there mage nerfs in those patch notes?
better nerf fury
WE'RE SO BACKK
ARCHI GIVE US NUMBERS
mages untouched
:laugh\
yo chill
Fair, I can only get so erect. Blizz is looking out for my health fr
WOYER BUFFS ZUG ZUG

:laugh\
:laugh\
Just came here for the memes
BALAAAAAAAAST
:thumb.
:laugh\
slayers strike also does so much damage
already
like thats prolly the craziest thing
thing can just crit for like 1.5mil randomly
I'm gonna cram crayons up my nose even harder
yea
can't believe it's not another nerf
surpriesd it was in there
Not nerfing, poggers
i guess its a way to buff our st
Damn archi works FAST
i have a question... why is ele shammy not getting nerfed? instead getting buffed?
yea i mean just copypasting the notes to a readable format not insane
the actual math is the real work

Bloodbath got 20% increase as well though so wonder which one will work out better to play with both buffs
there's some nerfs in there
probably both
blood thirst got a 20% as well
no way this bt buff buffs bb as well
buff fury
it dont
cooolio
yea i was about tot delete my mesg i see them after re reading it
Mate, they're overbuffing lol
if it means we actually spend every BB and use BT on cd that's a W
we gon get gutted
???!?!??!?
We’re so back?
Fury > arms?
ele got fucking ram sacked
Hell yeah
Guys we will probably get nerfed in a week
did bloodbath get double buffed cause bloodthirst or is that still separate
Colossus will overtake single target
Idk I just read what Archi posted and he said bloodthirst 20% and bloodbath 20% on the updates channel
This
eles got their heroic week of fun
who cares about ST this tier anyway
now they can feel it
nah they are tuned as different spells now
U saying arms will be better ST?
Can't hear you I'm thunder blasting IRL right now
yes because theres two seperate lines that say 20% to bloodthirst and then 20% to bloodbath
bloodbath does not get 20% and 20% again
Zug zug
would be stupid if it did
if we buy another mount do u think we get anout buff
it literally always is nearly and thes buffs arent changing anything in that regard
We're BACK?!
Blizzard rn
we kinda back?
We are SO back. Fury is mandatory in ALL keys
Heavy cope
But we won't be giga tank damage dogshit
WE BACK UP BOYS
Ngl its actually pretty big
giga cope
AM slayer is gonna fucking crank
Am slayer gonna blast
WERE SO BACK
they're seperate
the Reap buff is actually so big
Can't hear you I'm thunderclapping my 2h weapon
Putting the revolver down
Nonono dont say that
Slayers strike buff is huge
Guys
don't let them forget that they reduced our target cap to 5!!
We need to sandbag more
the buffs were enough
WE NEED TO SANDBAG
"the nerfs are okay ish"
buffs? surely it should be nerfs though or have i been misled
Wow these buffs are about fucking time
just says the buffs were enough and be done
OK LISTEN - if all the maths are good then everyone needs to STFU and play nice so we don't catch anymore nerfs! We'll quietly dominate and be top meat
we gotta be like the balance druids
Just play smf
warrior still bad
damage reduced beyond 5 targets
genuinely, dont raid
SORRY SORRY
yeh yeh um
buffs are ok but we are still too weak
real
like
true and real
just chill for a week
Buffs are awful, need three patches like this for it to do anything (LETS GOOOOO)
WE GOT BUFFED????
let them move on to another class
HOLYYYY
CRITCAKE COME HOME
Just don't beat mage or ret and we won't offend Blizz's prodigy children
@ him
critcake stop streaming
Bring crit home
lol
SANDBAG NEXT WEEK
I was happy for 30 seconds until this
hes gotta delete his DK
buff? rly?
I think the Brutosaur $$ let them pay the class balance dude
Crits video will have him grinning the whole time when he reviews these
Do we have sim numbers yet?
nah, but its clearly going to be big
- confused - i think
is it time for me to fotm switch to Fury warrior??
Hope not.
:laugh\
Guys its a up ?
how do we feel about alchemical chaos vs mastery flask for m+? wowhead says chaos but i feel like i do more overall with mastery
I was Arcane mage then Ele shaman and now is war op ?
its b down mate
Sandbag like usual
We popping bottles tonight guys we r back! 🤣
rush b with me?
u use chaos with tempered potion
otherwise use chaos probably
like, if u aint using potions
ok thanks 
Boi we gonna

damage reduced beyond 5 targets
can they make execute an actual button on fury tho
Are we gonna do more boss damage than Augvokers now? 
We’re back
okay bro relax you burnt the kitchen
ARE WE BACK
No, 10% isn't enough to make it worth clicking over anything else I don't think. Garbo button.
ya zhai you snitch
i'm playing ret behind your back
Guys, just make your tank pull only 5 mobs at a time and we're gonna top!
im playing a completely different game king
come play factorio
WE BACK?!
Feel like thane buffs are pretty big too
bro
buff is better?
post numbers
Gonna have to change your name. Blizz is sending out a Brez.

WE BACK
Don't post numbers. Don't let them know what they've done.
oh shit the buffs r real, I thought everyone was memeing
can a ret paladin pls explain to us why we didnt need these buffs
u like buff in warrion, new meta?
HIDE THE LOGS
We’re fucking so back
ground current being target capped to 5 feels silly when its like 42K
HIDE THE LOGS
Hi Vye!
Very happy
hi beyutuful
i can't believe it 🥹
!status
Nobody say anything don’t let them realize what they’ve done
we got buffs baybeeee
pleas sandbag the meters, if we even get 1% more dps they will say its overtuned and nerf us a further 25%
yay
wich % in overall this buff?
bloodthirst will be so gross
Bro i trust Archi to post numbers
can they not even buff execute if they gonna give it 10% only
Dont post numbers please
its useless piecve of shit ability :<
right! like a 50% buff in a week
how much %?
Don't post numbers. If Blizz sees what they've done they'll revert
Bloodthirst is back on the table
wym. Prot war execute pumping!
Does anyone think this means AM can be more viable?
im copium that we get more ST buffs
true
1.1%
Saved
i wish execute also procced slaughtering strikes/bloodcraze
this is actually a nerf, please cook the sims, thank you
that would actually give you reasons to press it
i just woke up
the dream
ITS ALIVE
WE'RE SO BACK
I'm embracing my inner warrior spirit from now on. I'm only a warrior, always will be. I will NEVER be a whiny bitch again. I'm charging in, rawring, and cutting down everything
Super Slammed buff
Hey guys,
I need help optimizing my stats, currently sitting on 31% haste and 32% mastery unbuffed, which sucks but I dont see any solution within my inventory.
All my enchants and gems give mastery and vers (besides the blasphemite gem).
What can I do?
It might but it be very minimal since BB also got buffed.
so now execute goes from last prio to last prio? nice
Yeah I'm wondering about execute
So I suppose RA is now firmly the best pick with the BB damage increase?
Fair fair
execute schmexecute, I'm already happy to see "increased" in stead of "reduced" this expansion
Farm items that provide extra mastery, i don't see any other options
Lol imagine if execute was a real button to press
BT>RB in aoe right?
Both base BT and BB got increased so it should stay somewhat linear
Finally some buffs long love warriors~~
@mossy fox REROLL DK AGO?
Please dont post numbers

Fair, I was just thinking as RA is only slightly ahead now right? with the buffs to base BT and RB
WE WON
Dont let this distract you from the fact that we are still target capped to 5 targets for some reason
this should put both ra and am close
wait are we back
I think we should just keep on complaining to destract the others !! lol
we take what we get at this point
WE ARE SO BACK
are we back?
Any napkin math-ers yet?
Yeah but it's not as if RB also got an increase
Take the win for now. Hopefully they remove it for next raid

bruh, y u always lyin
Yeah figured that would be the case. TY
fun for 1 week then nerfs again
This is probably a dumb question but does this make BB higher prio than CB?
WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK?!?!
They're both being used so idk
CB>BB>RB
no question is ever dumb
Can i have all of your gold?
disagree unfortunately
What’s 9+10?
Hahah
Imagine how boof we'd be if we complained every week like other classes
have u seen their apl?
its so uselessly overoptimized (in the wrong spots at points)
Only thing that could make this better is if they make Unhinged cleave again
i cannot wait to play AM slayer and pump
Im glad I was here
You dont think with the bloodbath buffs that RA slayer will be the go to again?
AM SLAYER ALL THE WAY
i need to see some calculations how much these buffs entail
whats the primary raid spec you guys runnin with? MT or Slayer for raid?
I was thinking Mountain thane build would be better
slayer always in raid
AM SLAY QUEENS
ITS TIME
ty ty
thane is fine for 2-3 bosses
WE'RE SO BACK
which ones?
am slayer seems to me to be the way to go now, although lightning strike by 30% with the added BT prio also seems good.
But
though 😦
rampage damage buff 😍
i love thane but miss the beyblade
But i like thane....
broodkeeper and court they can be optimal depending on your comp, individual skill and if you are a dwarf (for broodkeeper specfically)
TO THE MOON
Holy shit we're back guys
The arms buffs seem even better imo
Oh my fucking lord
25m st?!?
For real?!
We never left
God is good 🙏
What are those numbers
1125% pog
Kek
ITS TIME TO EATTTTTTTTTT
it's real bro
Its real i soloed queen
omg dooming is over
man you know that warrior players are completely restarted
gorrillion damage
1555% buffs pog
when they say that pic is real
HOLY SHIT WARRIOR BUFFS
its fucking crazy man
MASSIVE
🤣
damn thane is flying lol
you guys go tjokes
Blizzard is exaggerating again...
they will give us 2 days of ele treatment as compensation i spoke with the staff
while im happy about the buffs, i think i may be too much
Lore accurate warriors.
READING THE BUFFS
can we get a tuna cat chain going
We have two jobs; zug zug and yell
ahh cringe class, needs more nerfs
A week after buffs "we noticed that the buffs given to warrior are exceeding our desired expectations in single target encounters. We believe it is best to revert these changes and continue to monitor warrior performance closely in the following weeks."
I knew it.
pass the tuna you fucks
They did the class changes in alphabetical order and just didn't get to Warlock and Warrior fast enough. So we get ours now
gorrillion bazzilion damage
BUT WE BACK BOYS
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
CritCake coocked again
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
Its (un) confirmed guys, 1125% increased st dps
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
Imagine how us arcane mages feel right now D:
longest 3 days of my life
crazy...warriors "bad" for 3 whole days
Warrior dps**
sub 10% buff sadge
Warrior is back????
LESGOOOOOOO

BASED
I just got gear for my fk dk
Lmaoooooo
we still do no st dam
5 weeks more like
napkin math says around 9%?
in add cleave mixed dmg
dumb swordish brain dumb stinky dumb dumb idiot dumb
im confused why arent they nerfing fury?
happy to see some solid buffs as it really gives them some design space to give fury additional nerfs
buffs are only a vehicle for more nerfs
Typo "increase" instead of "reduced" check back next week 🙂
Patchnotes bugged for suuuure
finally they can hit us with -14%
god i hope
So bring slayer back
Then shoot it dead dead
hit us with -3% aura to buff every rotational ability since
we will still barely find a group. someone has to say it
next week 30% aura nerf
No one cares how any mage player feels
i originally opened the patch notes page and thought i read a 10% aura buff
relax main character
We are going to be s tier first time
we're not going to be frost dk level but this helps a lot
This is the fury discord, go be with your own kind
lol
rejoice fury brothers, we shall have our day in the sun once again
Hahahaha
is this where i tell u that frost is kinda not very good in raid
no shot these buffs will make us super insane
lmao my eyes went straight for that first 10% and immediately brained '10% aura nerf'
we can just start playing now we won't be any near to a s tier
we are still garbage target capped
More competitive for sure
Eh, Instead of under the rock I'm now in the shade of the rock
is this true? i want to like mountain thane but it just feels clunky to me and slayer just feels more fluid in what fury should be… but if its hitting like that i might have to in mythic+
immediately stop dooming noob
yes man its true
DK discord is literally dooming right now that they didn’t get buffed
ST will go up but compared to the other top dog ST classes.... idk... maybe we will be middle of the pack as fury
we do gorrilion damage
you only raid anyways fury is fine for raid
Fury top a tier?😅
i was just going off of m+ overall
This archie guy is surely slow at this whole math thing. Its obviously a net loss
middle of the pack ST with our kit is incredibly good.
kinda just forgot about raid cuz i dont raid anymore
life will improve significantly if you stop thinking of things in tier lists
before posting the numbers remember this from mage discord
the kit that got giga nerfed
I'll stop dooming day the fury is top ST spec! ( so never )
we are target capped
i agree anda tho, for raid they aren't eating good
was p good in amirdrassil no
i dont remember anymore
these buffs are wild
Bro if you want to be the best you need to take out the best
Fk dk
Ye was p good
I enjoyed bloodthirst being a real button in amirdrassil
if mountain thane gets gigga buffed its greta for sustained AOE. furys strength was BURST aoe. where in this raid does sustained aoe even matter....
ya
If you want to be the best evrey time, level up evrey class
Here me out, I honestly felt in M+ (11s-13s) Thane damage was fine…but these buffs LOL
ovinax maybe?
And then decide based on meta
court
deserved, get rekt blue bros
thane is a consideration for broodkeeper aswell but you kinda need to be a dwarf or play cringe dispells
The warrior treatment, 1 week of fun and then GG
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BABY!
damn thats a big nerf to ele
Or gnome Spongie

arms got buffed too so I'm wondering if I will still need to be an arms enjoyer for that boss, I like arms however
nuh uh
You know it
if you play arms on broodkeeper you are griefing probably
Could it be an arms angle now?
idk play whatever you want on court
its not a damage check
i couldnt make arms work so i went thane fury
i suppsoed. great one boss but its a two target fight. arms pretty sure will be king there
i wouldve done same as slayer noobers if i didnt die before lust (0 parse holy moly)
skill tissue
literally
arms probably does more damage if you play perfectly but the boss just kinda dies if no one hard griefs and fury is just easier to play properly
shamans in shambles
we love it folks
letsgooooooooooo



schreibt
should make that screenshot of archi typing an emote at this point
schreibt
all eyes on archi typing 
schreibt
sounds like something a frog would say

Told you @tidal kindle
let him cook
german self report
With those buffs, will Fury be viable for high Mythic+ keys?
I mean not anymor ethen it was
yeah bro gorrillion damage incoming
NO FUCKING WAY WE GOT BUFFED
Buff time boyyyyyyyzz
high keys is about comp and utility we have none of that still lol
I SAID IT
no its actually about big dam, i am not meming, it is literally just about big dam
Gonna be the ele shaman treatment in a week bois enjoy it, this is sick but probably too far again
i really don’t think warr utility is that bad … we have two stuns and one is aoe that more than most dps specs. It would be nice to have fear usable in m+ but that’s about it
I feel like 2 points on Vicious Contempt will be mandatory with these BB/BT buffs
Gonna be the ele shaman treatment in a week bois enjoy it, this is sick but probably too far again
I promise if warrior did fdk dmg + they would be meta in high keys
well fuck those percentages are way bigger then I thought theyd be

god damn
hide that shit folks
Dropping of makes sense anyway
Kinda messed up that we don’t play of in m+
RA is also back?
But whatever
Nah not back, the buffs don’t change the balance between ra and am much
Bb getting buffed
how far off between fury slayer and arms slayer
I wonder if he simmed Opportunist of FF for that slayer sim

SO now we are OP again?
FF is technically ahead very slightly in sims right now but most people dont bother and run Opportunist
yeah bro we are number 1
cheers blizzard
with the BT buff I have to imagine it will be more ahead
still think the dumbest change was execute only 10%. They legit buffed everything else for fury by more.. so exe is still lowest prio?
yea idk
exe isn't that big of a change for fury but its nice for arms
thats just such a nonchange for fury
So 1 sword better than 2 swords in St now ?
exe is still lowest prio on fury, but that change isnt negligible on arms
wait I thought am was behind ra atm still
think the execute buff is like more meant for arms and prot
my point exact, do 10% for arms whatever, but fury's needed a lot more lol
exe buff is pretty good for slayer ST tho
fury execute needs a redesign
It is
what archi mean by "raw" aoe ?
I’m saying it doesn’t change the status quo
Wait... Why did fury slayer change from 9.5% to 6.5% 🤔
im going arms. cya 😛
constant multitarget
this is what ive been waiting for
no raid fight is "raw" aoe
Time to play arms?
ok, cya nerd
i did a quick log math and it was def more than 6.5. but thats just my 1 time thing
not arms plz
so fury slayer and colossus arms are dead with the upcoming buffs?
nuh uh
No
yeah you have to play slayer arms and colossus fury
what would we play in M+ looking at the new updates percentages - Fury Thane still?
nah slayer is still king in raid
I literally only use execute to reset bladestorm that’s it
huh
Im wondering if this is RA or AM
yes dead specs
we have to doom
reality is its still super bad, just not as far behind
Anybody got a good hekili profile for fury?
what does this translate to for overall in a key?
Why do the buffs still look ass
orib ra
fairly certain it is just standard RA build with increased % thrown on it
The default one
what?
i did 1.90 in an nw10 yesterday with thane. idk about these buffs??
so buffs are nerfs? war nerf again omg
we are prob just looking forward to a giga nerf next reset again
Very early, lots of talent iterations to do still
my log math was like 7.8%
Got buffed but people saying we still got nerfed lol
i just mean st
just next week because the following reset we get nerfed again. have to enjoy 1 week, then hate it for 3 weeks. we get 1 week a month to be decent
Yup damage increases = net loss in DPS since things die faster /s
fury is always getting nerfed, even when it gets buffed. 
True true
BUFFS?????!!!!!!!????
we are 100% getting arcane mage treatment 1 day after these buffs
cant believe we got NERFED again
NO WAY
BUFFS
GUYS!!!!!
resulting in a net 2% nerf
its a nerf
Its funny that the newspost says warlock and warrior tuning but the ele changes are still longer than the whole of the warrior changes
from the napkin math in the updates channel it seems that you play thane for multitarget and arms slayer for st hands down
good, evil class got shot
It's a typo, supposed to be nerf and -20%, blue post fail
Watch the new patch breaking half of our damage again
Not good
But let's be real. Where are the poor Windwalker bois buff?
slayer is still better for burst AoE for raid for fury
I'm never going arms no wya im keeping two sets of gear
Slayer in raid most likely
oh ok
i would think slyer would be more of a buff in m+ but i was completly wrong
Am i just dumb or do the buffs seem kinda useless tho like its not solving any issues we have
sounds like m+ thane and slayer raid
i mean yeah
outside of skill reworks what else can they change
that reap buff is pretty big
but better than nothing
Nah thane slaps in m+ way easier to keep whirlwind stacks up with thunder clap, especially now it’s getting buffed heaps
reap buff is really good tho
Idk im not sure i agree
AM up big?
It changes the damage profile a bit so
spot on better than nothing
we need. MORE. MORE DAMNIT.
Giving us changes that blizz think matter is bad if the changes dont matter
Cos they will think we’re fixed
reap does about 1.7bn dmg for me on a 30-35 pull night on mythic brood so its definitely juicy
it at least shows that they can actually buff our st if they so desire
without making us do a gorrillion burst aoe damage in 2 seconds
but sadly thane still BIS for m+
I mean if people really think blizz refuse to buff war they’re delusional
sure, but a lot of people will still play slayer, and if so, the reap buff is massive
u just use bt/bb on cd
yeah keep quiet now boys, pretend like we didnt get buffed, fly low xD
is it sandbag week so we can make blizzard buff us even more then we push 17s?
Thane for brood now?
Slayer Charge
ah i see.. so in short its even now? so it really doesnt matter?
Hi thinking of creating a Fury Warrior, Night Elf best?
gnome bis class trust
anything 11s and lower.. yes pretty much
Thane and slayer were p much even before the changes
Its been fully preference what you play
mechagnome is bis if ur minmaxing 0.1% dps but nelf is goated
especially if ur on slayer
Oh, man. Beginning Mythic Court prog soon, and I was about to commit to Thane. Now it looks like I've got options.
meld has saved me an uncountable amount of times
im a gnome mage, one gome is enoguh
;p
but yeah NElf most likely better utlity wise
one gnome is too much gnome
is ele dead or were they nerfed enough?
pretty sure they just got a disgusting nerf in m+
dunno numbers exactly but its quite bad.
a...buff?
nerf* sorry
someone mentioned a "30% nerf in m+" earlier so even if it's remotely close to that number it's not a good look for them
have to look @ sham discord to see ig
no numbers on shammy discord atm
zug zug
cant believe fury also got nerfed

this is ele shammy pin that just got put up
im loving this fury nerf tbh
WE ARE BACK BABY
FINALLY
Are we back from here?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#dataset=95&boss=2898
I play fury warrior so all these percentages don't rly make sense to me Idk how to do math
LOL
I can't tell if it's enough
it's ok none of us do.
This is consistent, they over buff and over nerf
Remember when BT was 80% attack power in DF
Its gonna be ~233% next reset
I just press buttons and zug zug, I thought we're all the same
what is this talk about overbuffing bro
lincc i'm hoping they forget to push the buffs thru on the 30th
you feel safe?
can't believe they buffed boomkin
true blizzard fashion
The BT/BB buff really wasnt needed lol
you think from now till the reset they won't pull back on some stuff?
Because getting absolutely nuked 2 weeks from now feels worse
Still fury slayer for ovinax you think with am and 45sec roar?
Absolutely not it’s not even going to be tested LOL
I mean ele could've expected the nerfs, but they got screwed ont heir ascendance dmg and their regular dmg. Just like blizz nuked fury
dude slayer is gonna fucking slap on ovi, if u get reap procs
like disgusting
we are still gonna be way below ret lol
it's not that big of a buff
is it live on PTR?
no
yeah i figured no changes on that front just making sure since its still a burst add fight
The changes just don’t seem to fix anything for us
Nothing fixes anything
Well I mean our spec plays super well and fun
ok real talk
We’ve just been weak
to fix our ST, all they needed was to buff execute and rampage. maybe the lightning strikes/slayer's strikes is a good welcome too. But the BT/BB bufff.. is just weird. execute is still our lowest prio, we basically just play like df s3
Ye
using bt on cd
Ye i really enjoy fury playstyle
game playable poggiees
nah nah nah it stays
as long as warrior is this behind on utility from every other class, we'll never be viable unless overtuned
?
@edgy widget What about the single target in AOE build?
You can just never be happy can you
so time to get overtuned
shockwave is broken
nah you misunderstand
cheer up
average warrior unforch
i'm sayijng i'm about to enjoy being overtuned
Yes because these changes are dogshit
no joy
lol..
Being overtuned is as stupid as being undertuned
okayt you convinced me, i didnt know i was sad
you can extrapolate
Woo we do 5% more damage this is so fixed
at least it's fun for the time being 
I’m gonna get 12 invites with these buffs for sure
wat
If you're not getting invited maybe you are just bad
thats what she said
Legit delusional take
And what about a week later when you’re potentially given the ele treatment and even worse off?
too real
Jeventes wasnt getting into 12s earlier and he has 14s timed
unsub
But sure its skill issue
Idk I’m obviously happy fury finally got a buff, we needed a buff
hehe, what we just talked about on discord after tank died and said "Xalatath just told me she wished i lasted longer"
it's nice that BT/BB buff reinforces those even more for aoe, not solely for the hero talent procs they provide
But this current roulette they have of overbuffing and overnerfing is concerning in the long term
I hope with these changes we're a lil more competitive again
We are beyond competitive with this
I have a super hard time even getting into 10s as DPS and I'm one of the higher geared warriors xD
not testing anything is the key issue blizz has imo
Someone run the logs yet?
Did you see my DB w fmage and fdk? Add 12-13% to that
I’m now 10-12% ahead of those two, that’s not healthy
live servers are blizz' PTR
Bt buffs makes bb>ramp always
Yeah they need to do tests, they’re treating this entire expansion like a beta
@edgy widget For curiosity sake did you use opportunist or fierce followthrough for the Fury slayer sim? I doubt it would make a huge difference but imagine the buffs would favor FF.
Ye i think damage wise we’re fine but i still dont see a reason to pick us over smth like fdk or ret
We’ve been running ff since the last changes Joseph
ret still very strong
I mean why would you want a warrior in your group?
but not overpowered strong
we're still squishy as fuck arent we
Fdks are kinda crap now. They all going unholy
these buffs will not defeat the pug perception of what they will feel they need in their comp to push keys
enhance didnt or? just ele?
?
Feels like the have the F tier dev team working on this expansion. So many bugs. So many questionable buffs/nerfs
Enhance was already starting to fall in line a bit, ele got nuked out of orbit
I feel insanely tanky
not necessarily, remember BT still has a CD, so you end up doing more rbs than bts (outside of reck anyways)
I wouldn't say fury is squishy its more like DK is immortal
they deserve it lmao
as an outlier
And I mean we’re not as tanky as DK but calling us squishy is such bullshit lol
What did we expect from the shadow lands team?
Ye fury are for sure tanky bois
Everything is squishy compared to dk
thats still gonna go to the dk
I mean you probably run fury FDK after this
I would say fury FDK enhance is potentially the comp
triple melee?
no aug?
guys just came back, are we playable now? Can I delete my enh shaman?
🤣
Sounds like an awful time on last boss siege
iron wire is broken, the mobs straight up do 15% less damage during the silence
last boss siege has more than enough melee space lol
and their dmg profile is good
u can have 4 melee spread and be fine
For 4 melees? Doubt
So are these new buffs they are coming gunna fix us ?
Doubt it
I mean aug is fairly meh now
spread into the water
There’s been fake posts from rogue “bans” since the exploit
people were posting this first day of patch
Assa is good but I don’t think it’s better
this is jebait
is thane gonna be the definitive go to spec in m+ even in low/mid keys now?
the blue post did say that accounts would be actioned, where applicable - they made it sound like most people are simply having their keys rolled back
hey guys, which build is doing better on m+ rn?:
but some would get banned if too egregious
thane am spear?
rogue guildie said people getting hit with 4-7d bans
we are gonna be giga S tier for the whole raid after these buffs
thats not a good thing imo
but im trying to stay positive
❤️
What’s gunna be better thane or slayer
whats the worst they do? nerf us again? come on we're so used to it at this point.
hahaha
yea i guess
nah don't think so
Curious if they are buffing us more than this tbh
a 2% buff would have been decent and on point
fury needs another buff
At least you’ll be able to get into 12s again once the change is live :)
Lets hope so lmao
Announce a rework next patch and I'm a happy boi
I need 13s
again its kinda minor but like with FF I sim 16% of my damage as Bloodbath and Opportunist I sim 13.7% as Bloodbath
In theory the FF one would go up +3.2% and the opportunist one would go up 2.74% if BT gets buffed 20%
No one want warriors lol
Idk, i feel like this is fun and all, but doubt it will be enough
Ye I’m not convinced
Is it a nice buff? Sure, but its not solving problems players are having
I mean we're gonna be completely "fine"
I wish my class tree wasn't all mostly thoroughput
ngl i think fury design is pretty fine
It will be big upgrade for us but still not going to be able to do lake shaman or dk
But i doubt it will push us into the upper ranks
arms yeah sure, but fury with some buffs is entirely okay
in raid it defintely will
Oh yeah but im talking m+
In raid this will do a lot
I think so to but things like execute dam and some capstones need god
I wish they didnt buff arms cos now my guild might make me play it on kyveza when we get there
it's not gonna get you more invites while other classes bring more dps and utility
Utility is fake
Especially this season
what do you mean?
it might do more damage
but being way more tankier is much better
trust
Depends on the utility
Ye ive told em that the tankiness is nice
You guys think warlock going to be the new s tier?
Stops and shit are only griefing people out of kicks nowadays. And "utility" other than a shroud is kinda w/e
And me being like 95 avg log fury is prob gonna outdps first time arms too
Theres one thing I have on my wishlist right now... Make Overwhelming Rage 1 Talent Point with the same effect as 2 right now and enable us to get endurance training by that. 🙂
Since ive never touched it before
talking more like sac, dispel, off heal like ret
Bring rally back to 20% cowards
U either die to a one shot or get a better healer
A paladin wont sac u if he dies himself with it
I hate the stop changes they made to m+
Everyone does
Say no
It's just a game of delaying casts till you have an interrupt
just sim yourself on tuesday, if you don't have a good stat profile and trinket setup for arms you might find that fury slayer spear is very close on ST still
Warrior kick, bolt, shockwave are all decent for keys, if you play with a spec or two that benefit from battle shout your comp is solid. You don't need max utility and every single buff and lust to push high keys
To then delay till you have stops to delay casts
I mean id rather play than get benched
plus, some degree of damage loss is acceptable to play fury
because you get more survivability
rally is just giga ass
Nah last sim i did fury was like 110k dps behind arms
If your guilds benching you over this maybe find a new one lol
If you guys aren't able to do high keys it's nothing to do with your lack of utility
like literally within 15k
630
same
Just play fury and say it survives easier shrugs
Is thane only worth playing 11s and up?
You’re doing something wrong if it’s 110k
Guys i just woke up i'm happy for everything except execute still too weak good night
They’re not i just said they could, we’re not even on kyveza yet
3 min 10% hp for a couple seconds is no longer valid if a resto can give you that more frequently and without much effort
It’ll be bigger come reset, but mine is about 15 - 20k currently
Not sure how i can mess up simming rlly, swapped to arms talents removed one wep and changed mana oil to 1 wep and not both
I have barely any crit gear so mine is quite wide
you used the fury spear spec?
Buffs 
not the aoe spec you'd use everywhere else?
after buff back to RA or AM
na I was waiting for any possible last minute