fury

[forest owl]

when was the last time fury was in a position like ele is right now?

[trail bane]

A spec that tops Ovinax should not also top Kyveza

[forest owl]

even if 'broken'

[fleet cove]

Wotlk

[upbeat cedar]

First 3 xpacs

We had our time in the sun mate.

Now we are a middle of the road class.

[eternal sundial]

I mean ele is just in the destro s3 / S4 sl or sp s2/3 spot

Happens all the time

[median dust]

they should make spear chains like DH tank.

in PvE only

[upbeat cedar]

Cowardly. Pvp too

[median dust]

Dude. AM fury in PvP is cranking right now

[trail bane]

sp wasnt good in season 2 because their dps was high, they were good because mass dispell was mandatory

[night relic]

I can’t wait to get outdpsed by a shammy on brood tonight

[modest condor]

mass dispel wasnt mandatory

[trail bane]

I cant wait to get outdpsed by an assa rogue on brood tonight

[feral ivy]

im using AM for brood.. do u just throw cds on cd? and every 2 reckless has 1 avatar right?

[modest condor]

spriest was good in s2 because their dps was high

[normal bane]

ppl need to stop pretending like ele is going to keep existing like this lmao

[upbeat cedar]

Will have to hold reck for a bit to line up with avatar

[vale dove]

wwere getting inflated because of Rashanan and Broodtwister

[upbeat cedar]

These fellas are full dooming rn man let them be

[forest owl]

glad i cant say the same, my guilds ass rogue dies to swirlies 50 times a night

[eternal sundial]

Whack take

[normal bane]

you mean the fights our damage profiles are good at? + queen when it gets more public logs

[past pivot]

BC, WotLK, Cata??

[normal bane]

fury sucks if you just ignore the fights we're good at

the unhinged thing does feel really shit atm though, i'll give everyone that

but i don't think it's intended

but who knows

[upbeat cedar]

We gettin buffed soon

Simplessss

[trail bane]

oh i was thinking df season 2 not sl, my bad

[forest owl]

inb4 blizzard confirm unhinged shit is intended 🤣

[gleaming yoke]

what buff?

[night relic]

Fury is the best if u just delete all other classes

[oak garden]

Dream's

[modest condor]

yes, me too

[flat river]

I BEAT THE AUG EVOKERS LETS GOOO

[normal bane]

they've been dooming for a while now, mostly incorrectly too(about raid)

[vale dove]

id rather we had some ST Damage than the stupid burst aoe for adds and thats it

[frank vault]

Catching nerfs because of a raid's design feels terrible though. Like we're already pretty behind in M+ and don't bring enough utility to make up for it... When this raid is no longer the active raid it's gonna be even worse.

[forest owl]

very stronk

[modest condor]

if you think spriest was not meta because of their dps you're coping

[naive isle]

Hey guys, warrior got nerf? What specifically changed?

[clever path]

assa rogue - did 10 +8s today. I was tanking on DK - not huge pulls but some packs had 8+ mobs. Those dungeons he did average on 2.2 mil.

No Evoker

[flat river]

Better than 10

[trail bane]

then sp was good because they had mass dispell and could pi fire mage

[clever path]

We then did some standard pulls 1.7 mil

[oak garden]

Software from Roar and OF

[upbeat cedar]

Aoe target caps, slayer nerf

[trail bane]

they werent brought because their dps was anything special

[oak garden]

Softcap

[median dust]

We are no longer warriors. More like foot soldiers

[clever path]

Assa rogues AOE and ST is INSANE

[modest condor]

no it was good because it was the 2nd highest dps after fire mage

[normal bane]

true but at least compare your dmage to an equal rank

and not something a good amount higher

[night relic]

lol their dps was insane

[eternal sundial]

So guys do i stay on my ret or log shaman in tonight

What do you say

[clever path]

roll Assa rogue

[hardy cargo]

sham

[clever path]

their DPS is insane!

[night relic]

Shaman while it’s busted

[dull compass]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/roZP7kfJUkcW2G5kooz7ti

[eternal sundial]

I have blue and pink no yellow

[naive isle]

Damn blizzard… they hates warrior since ever

[dull compass]

why is lamplighter simming higher than charged claymore here?

[eternal sundial]

Bro i saw the dragon and checked out

Aug sims xds

[naive isle]

Every xpac warrior is fine in the beginning and starts to shrink…

[dull compass]

huh?

[upbeat cedar]

S1 shadowlands

[eternal sundial]

Cuz dslice is whack is the answer

[ashen jungle]

you playing am and berserkers torment or still titans torment? 🙂

[eternal sundial]

But the dragon icon confused me if u posted right class

[upbeat cedar]

Got huge buffs season 1 df too

[dull compass]

should i run again on patchwerk with 100% uptime?

[dull compass]

oh hahaha

[spare hull]

Is thane AM the go to spec for m+ now?

[gilded flicker]

Did one of you guys tried AM spear in m+?

[upbeat cedar]

Its meh, fun tho

[idle ember]

What do yall average in m+?

[verbal rivet]

It is that bad…aight

[trail bane]

Yea Shadow dmg looks bonkers

[modest condor]

wow you're actually clueless

[trail bane]

Shadow priest PI lined up with Aug cds to buff fire mage which made Shadow Priest insane

[frank vault]

Any interesting gear from the new raid, or all pretty terrible? I didn't see anything that looked particularly great, but I'm bad at napkin mathing trinkets.

[trail bane]

If other classes had PI they would have been brought instead

[dull compass]

death knight just eating no matter what

[modest condor]

this guy is actually linking raid parses

[upbeat cedar]

Let him have it his having a rough day

[modest condor]

true

[trail bane]

Would love to see the classes that are "OP dps in m+" who arent top half in raid

[upbeat cedar]

If my grandma had wheels she would be a car ass take bro

[iron portal]

Justa add ham

[hollow elk]

Time to sit and watch

[hardy cargo]

check sin rogue rn in nerubar palace overall mythic all %tile

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[trail bane]

They are top 5 on most bosses

Whats ur point

[hardy cargo]

sin is down at the bottom

on overall all %

like u linked for abberus

[gilded flicker]

Dmg wise is closer to thane with RA and odyns?

[trail bane]

Are they?

Where the fuck are you looking

[hardy cargo]

thats sub

[buoyant salmon]

common silm W

[hardy cargo]

broher

sin

assassin

not sublety

[trail bane]

ITS SUB+

LOOK AT THE THIRD SPOT

[manic dragon]

lousy pulls, but I just did like 400k under the lock and ret paladin using my stupid simmed am build, sucked so bad

[trail bane]

SUB IS FORTH

holy shit

[hardy cargo]

but sub isnt op in keys rn

sin is

[dull compass]

yupp patchwerk was normal

[trail bane]

Exactly

They are insane in keys

[dull compass]

thanks

[hardy cargo]

yes

[trail bane]

AND TOP 3 IN RAID

my entire point

[hardy cargo]

but sin is at the bottom

[gleaming siren]

yes

[hardy cargo]

you are looking at sub top 4 in raid

[gleaming siren]

Sin is bottom spec

[upbeat cedar]

Not too far off

[trail bane]

There hasnt been a single case of a dps class being insanely good at m+ dps without them being a top 50% spec in raid

[heavy dock]

Ive never actually seen a sub rogue this expac lol

[gleaming siren]

Arms is top spec

[buoyant salmon]

@hardy cargo are u baiting for just completely clueless

[trail bane]

Except DF S2 priest because priest could synergize with aug to buff fire

[heavy dock]

I think it was only legit sin rogues

[trail bane]

To a ridiculous extent

[past pivot]

Post some more random raid standings from long ago. That’ll give us a clearer picture.

[warm crag]

outlaw like every time its good or

[iron portal]

top 50% is bit generous isnt it

[dapper goblet]

pretty sure shadow priest was donkey in raid all last expansion but good in m+

[hard widget]

Im playing AM slayer broodtwister build pretty much

[trail bane]

Whens the last time outlaw was good in m+?

[hard widget]

Its giga fun

[hollow elk]

Guys guys please. Jump in one at the time

[hardy cargo]

dont tell him xdd

[heavy dock]

Is it on wowhead

[trail bane]

It is, because shadow priest in season 2 was bottom half in raid

[iron portal]

even in m+ Jeventes?

[heavy dock]

Or can u libk

[umbral sigil]

DF when atal was in m+

[restive peak]

Outlaw is currently good for M+ lol

[warm crag]

my man you can't say "find me an example of this" and when several examples are found you go "that doesnt count"

the goalpost is outside of the city at this point

[hard widget]

CgEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW78AAAAAAAAAAAagxAMMDzyYmZ2ghZmxwMMzstNzYmZWYmxMzwMsYbGmZMAAAQYmZbZsxilFz0YmZYyswYDbA

[restive peak]

Also SP was brought S2/4 because it's damage was giga fuckin cracked in AOE, that's why

[gleaming siren]

Move the goalpost further

[hollow elk]

Jeventee cat has spoken

[buoyant salmon]

i was saying this in season 2 and nobody believed me lmfao

[warm crag]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1298374942584475648/ccu7dbw-ezgif.com-effects.gif

[small vault]

how do the bladestorms line up with am for brood?

[trail bane]

Thats season 1 i think, and you are correct, outlaw was bottom half i admit im wrong

[gleaming siren]

?

[hard widget]

If it lines it lines

If it doesnt

It doesnt

Either way

[hollow elk]

Jesus Christ what did they do to that link

[hard widget]

Fun is always up

[heavy dock]

Werent all 3 rogue specs on #1,2,3 in df s1 lol

[buoyant salmon]

lines up well

[warm crag]

should line up every time

[restive peak]

Wait wut

[gleaming siren]

Trolling harder than the guy trolling you

gg

[restive peak]

Yes the synergy was nice but that's NOT the reason SP was so giga

[warm crag]

you can maybe bladestorm an extra time after the 3rd cd set but you pretty much already need to have 3 slayer strike stacks to cdr off of

[trail bane]

i never said something doesnt count ?

[buoyant salmon]

?? no

[clever path]

how is fury doing?

[warm crag]

fury is dead delete your warrior

[gleaming siren]

bad we keep losing braincells

[upbeat cedar]

Fine

[clever path]

i know it got nerfed but saw some people pumping

[hollow elk]

Brother..

[gaunt moat]

we're doing doing

[clever path]

i mean i know it got nerfed

but saw some people pumping

some bugs or what?

[gaunt moat]

in raid? fine

[heavy dock]

I very vividly remember top of dps being all yellow in the first month or so of df

[north geyser]

they said they're gonna do more class tuning with maintenance next week so I'm on the doomium that Bladestorm will be soft capped at 5 targets

[gaunt moat]

in m +? be careful to not get beaten by a prot paladin

[buoyant salmon]

you are just wrong wcyd

[clever path]

so fury is weak ye?

[buoyant salmon]

fury was very good on dragonflight release

[verbal rivet]

You have to sweat to beat tank damage nkw. It’s great

[modest condor]

and then everybody got a tierset

[buoyant salmon]

sweating playing fury warrior

kekw

[heavy dock]

Lmao true

Fury and s1 set being dogshit

[buoyant salmon]

it was still decent though

had a couple good fights in the raid

[modest condor]

i mean our cooldowns lined up with some adds sure

[heavy dock]

I remember it was lowest out ig all classes

[modest condor]

but our boss damage was kinda trash

[coarse nest]

Just accept fate and play a ret or a wizard spec

[buoyant salmon]

not great though thats for sure

[modest condor]

just like now

[coarse nest]

Blizzard hates us clearly

[heavy dock]

Like this season

[small vault]

boys im sorry to say, if your getting beat by tank damage it's all on you

fury isnt that bad

[tranquil ridge]

so, we dont play fury anymore right

[honest karma]

623 Shard in vault let’s go

[restive peak]

Fury is not good rn, we can pretend all we want

[coarse nest]

It’s dogshit

[flat river]

Wdym its too OP

[coarse nest]

It was good before the nerfs

[restive peak]

You can play the game, you can do keys to 12/13 and you can mythic raid

[flat river]

Nerf that shit

[restive peak]

But we suck compared to everything else

[buoyant salmon]

arms was really good in s1 df though

for st

[flat river]

[buoyant salmon]

moreso than it is now

[sinful glen]

[astral path]

does anyone have a good slayer AM m+ build?

[buoyant salmon]

btw idk who was saying it but i saw on twitter someone saying frost dk is never viable

[flat river]

Nah bro warrior is too OP, nerf that shit

[buoyant salmon]

which is an insane thing to say

this spec has been consistently solid forever

[verbal rivet]

Oh sure, some tanks doing 900k sustained.

[heavy dock]

I heard pally tanks do some stupid dmg rn

[restive peak]

I mean yes if you're losing to tanks something is wrong

Also RA is likely still the play

[verbal rivet]

Pali tanks are cranking rn

[coarse nest]

I really wish the dev/s in charge of balance would specifically state why they’re fucking us

[astral path]

yeah but AM is fun

[flat river]

I was thinking of swapping to pali tank

[coarse nest]

At least I could try to understand

[buoyant salmon]

pally tanks had a bug

[flat river]

I used to play one in DF

Took a break

[wary fjord]

Pally tanks had 100% crit

[hollow elk]

Wife cheated with a guy named wari

[verbal rivet]

Had a Pali tank do like 1.2 Overall in a key, it was no bueno

[mental swan]

second week in a row I get hook as my only myth track loot - what's the least worst item here...

[buoyant salmon]

lots of tanks can do 1.2 though

i think every tank probably can

[flat river]

Real

[buoyant salmon]

depending on the key

[heavy dock]

The socket

[hollow elk]

Get second myth track slot

[verbal rivet]

Not in pug 8s they aren’t

[vernal fog]

take ring bis

[flat river]

And he played warrior

[coarse nest]

Like how do you nerf fury because it’s “aoe is much stronger than we’d like” but then simultaneously buff Ele to the state it’s in

[mental swan]

yea took that last week too 😦

[buoyant salmon]

on a fortified only key i dont see why not

[coarse nest]

Like what. The. Fuck.

Very frustrating

[wary fjord]

Remember the aoe nerf was cause of raid too

[mental swan]

took socket last week T_T

[heavy dock]

Im on 3rd week of getting socket loot from vault

[small vault]

its not just ele's aoe, their st is dumb too

[heavy dock]

Xd

[wary fjord]

[coarse nest]

That’s just one example

[honest karma]

He means do 4 dungeons instead of 1

[verbal rivet]

All the ones I’ve been seeing sit at like 500-900k

[restive peak]

Watching Bond try to justify it last night was funny as fuck

[coarse nest]

Most other melee specs are just straight up better to have in your dungeon comp as well

[restive peak]

"THE ST IS FAIRLY BALANCED SO LIKE"

[coarse nest]

Zero reason to bring a warrior

It’s just so sad

[buoyant salmon]

bond is such a good streamer LMFAO

[eternal sundial]

is ait

[buoyant salmon]

entertaining guy

[nimble ermine]

think you vendor that

[wicked moat]

Wdym most

[flat river]

I maxed my mythic track ara kara today

[hard widget]

@median dust Rematch vs Necrotic wake - Jeventes vs Prot warrior first pull 😂

[wicked moat]

Like every except for arms

[hard widget]

Lets see if i win this time

[coarse nest]

Basically all yeah

[restive peak]

Aya wants me to come Choco, how ready is your DH

LOL

[buoyant salmon]

-1 not at all

by dk is viable though

[nimble ermine]

@hard widget what are u running on AM slayer, i wanna 4fun some keys

[wicked moat]

Id never pick a dps warrior in m+

Since legion launch

[restive peak]

Get it ready we're bootin Gromnak

[buoyant salmon]

am slayer doesnt sound fun at all ill keep it a buck

idk why youd wnana play that

[coarse nest]

[nimble ermine]

idk for shits

[flat river]

Mods please rename this server from "Skyhold" to "Nerfed to the Groundhold"

[verbal rivet]

Fs in the chat for Gromnak

[restive peak]

Ye it sounds awful

[median dust]

i got money on you HAH

[restive peak]

I'm not srs I do not wanna raid 4x a week anymore

[buoyant salmon]

oldge

[eternal sundial]

ret shafted this is a sign

i log shaman ig

[restive peak]

Truly this is why, I am 36 in a few months big dawg D:

[buoyant salmon]

holy fuck

[flat river]

I like shaman, I don't like totem gameplay

[buoyant salmon]

im 20 in 5 days

big ups

[honest karma]

89’ homie

[flat river]

Happy birthday

[restive peak]

I do not miss being 20

[wary fjord]

Hey, they said more class tuning next week, maybe buffs for fury

[restive peak]

Legit life is so much better post 30

[buoyant salmon]

oh brother i assure you i cannot wait to be 20

[quiet geyser]

Debatable

[restive peak]

I was just drunk and gamblin on STDs and pregnancies man, I do not miss the stress

[flat river]

Wait i forgot how old am wtf

[quiet geyser]

Chocos a baby man

[restive peak]

Paul is not lovin his 30s LOL

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAO?

[sinful glen]

bro i loved my twenties

[flat river]

Im 20 i remember now

[buoyant salmon]

based

[honest karma]

I have a 2 year old. Love him to death, but he steals wow time

[unreal onyx]

[honest karma]

[restive peak]

Pros and cons, the wife is a more enjoyable time hahaha

[jagged flax]

pretty bad vault today, sadge

[sinful glen]

until you'll have to pay for his gametime

[flat river]

Sadgers

[restive peak]

@quiet geyser the last year RIP to his freedom

[buoyant salmon]

consistentcy god on broodtwister

[restive peak]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

The fuckin 1.95mil 100 as arms xD

[flat river]

0 PARSE LETS GOOOO

[young swan]

the fuck

[coarse nest]

Just in time to not get invited to anything

[buoyant salmon]

couldve done real damage but i overcooked my build hard

[astral path]

we need the master builders to cook up slayer AM build 🙏

[quiet geyser]

Have an 8 month old. Was raiding when he was a new born progging Tindral/fyrak trying to put him to sleeep on my lap. Was legit hell

[flat river]

Hello Xan

[young swan]

how are u younger than swordish

[keen fulcrum]

breh

[honest karma]

Lmaooo

[buoyant salmon]

died the second i popped my full cds smoge

[buoyant salmon]

he exited the womb first

duh

[restive peak]

I can 2nd Ioa coming to work looking like a crackhead who skipped sleep for 7 days just so he could prog fyrakk

[placid lagoon]

hey guys, did the talents change for Silken Court or Queen?

[summer crater]

And it gets even better, especially in terms of being content

[quiet geyser]

And was last to get legendary. This game sucks

[flat river]

How is is swordfish?

[wet wraith]

i just started getting bop'd when adds come up

[buoyant salmon]

u guys got the legendary?

[restive peak]

We cursed

[summer crater]

The happiest people are the ones above 60

[flat river]

Yes

[wet wraith]

honestly we should all just use fyralath

[flat river]

Fyralath right?

[placid lagoon]

or we play the same slayer talent on raid?

[flat river]

I got it on my 10th kill

[restive peak]

Choco afk'd S3

[keen fulcrum]

Parse wise?

[flat river]

But i think blizz wants me to play paladin idk why

I got it on my first fyrakk kill as paladin

[summer crater]

Yeah parse wise 🤣

[buoyant salmon]

i played my dh in keys a bit

[quiet geyser]

Blizz wants all wars to play pally. Hence the 7 nerfs

[flat river]

Real

[keen fulcrum]

Man if i'm not hitting 80s I hate myself

[restive peak]

My DK is 630

It's joever

[summer crater]

I was joking I was talking about 60 years

[night relic]

This mfers alt higher than my main

[flat river]

Same

[elder granite]

is dungeon slice a reliable way to sim?

[buoyant salmon]

wdym alt linc is a main dk

[flat river]

Oh

BETRAYER

[wet wraith]

with some of the questions people ask in this discord, aint no way im happy with less than a 90

[sinful glen]

i decided im going to take every group decline super personal

[flat river]

Remove yourself from here now

[radiant plank]

Lincc are you already practicing unholy

now that frost is "dead"

[restive peak]

Sadly we're slowly moving this direction

I was UH anyway frost is for losers

😛

[buoyant salmon]

practice unholy kekw

[quiet geyser]

Unholy was always just as good tbh

[restive peak]

UH is super fun

[radiant plank]

Baseg

[buoyant salmon]

theres no practice needed the spec plays itself

[flat river]

UH has too many buttons for me

[summer crater]

I was declined for a 4 for some fast runed at 623 and 2400

[flat river]

I don't know how to press so many

[summer crater]

That felt special

[restive peak]

It is fury but even easier bro

LOL

[flat river]

No?

[restive peak]

You just drop DND/Defile and afk spam your aoe

[sinful glen]

yeah for a 6 here too 625 and 2434

[restive peak]

Your fuckin pets do 70% of your dmg, you giga fuck, you cannot die

I have 7.3mil unbuffed on my UH

[flat river]

Thats cool and all but

[verbal rivet]

All the things AMS just skips…is wild

[flat river]

U have 6 45 sec cd abilities

[restive peak]

2?

[buoyant salmon]

most of the time u dont play apocolypse

[restive peak]

1 tbh in the current build

You don't run apoc for M+

[buoyant salmon]

just dt and vc

[restive peak]

It's legit just OF

[summer crater]

Whenever I try out arms I feel like I'm 15 ilvls below everyone else just on health alone

[flat river]

M

[restive peak]

But it's DF

[flat river]

Might try it again

I do kinda like abomination

[restive peak]

DT*

[vague sierra]

Tsk, tsk, y'all talking about playing DK. A real captain goes down with his ship. Right to the bottom of the DPS charts.

[restive peak]

to me it's legit just fury but smoother/stronger

[flat river]

Never swapping mains

[verbal rivet]

If we could get on the ship, I’d agree

[restive peak]

My warr is still my main for raid, and I'm like 3100io on it

[sinful glen]

yeah im not swapping either, i just want to complain

[restive peak]

But it just becomes exhausting

[long glacier]

blizz has to stop and buff us eventually right....

right...

right?

RIGHT!!!!!

[quiet geyser]

The amount of ret and frost/unholy talk that happens in a fury warrior channel is sickening.

[restive peak]

Fury is off life support, it's just deadge now RIP

[honest karma]

I’m ditching HC transmitter for Myth track shard in m+ now. Can’t wait to just pop cds without having to play mini game

[quiet geyser]

Furys actually like top 7 right now due to rash adds being added back in. Its very misleading, but ya.

[restive peak]

Can't wait to hold CDs tn on rasha and do fuckall I actually feel useful for

[flat river]

I main m+ now though

[tidal kindle]

If you want any chance at any meaningful changes to warrior

[flat river]

Don't do mythic raiding

[quiet geyser]

R.i.p.

[tidal kindle]

Best way is to stop playing

[flat river]

Yep

[spare hull]

i miss SL condemn tbh...any idea if there is a way to have that sound play instead of the normal execute one?

[tidal kindle]

Cuz they clearly don't listen to feedback nor have any clue what they're doing

Maybe they'll listen when the playerbase starts cratering for the class

[flat river]

Let's all march to blizzard headquarters screaming "FOR SKYHOLD"

With swords and axes

[quiet geyser]

Screaming zug

[flat river]

REAL

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[honest karma]

I’m striking outside Dornogal

Banners and all

[vague fern]

This xD

[flat river]

Guys

[lapis slate]

It's okay guys only 1 more week until buffs next reset

[rugged hill]

see ya'll maybe next season? canceled sub already and might just be better to spend time focusing on uni 😔

👋

[flat river]

Lets all make 40 man raid groups

[dapper goblet]

excuse me

[flat river]

And stand in line in dornagal

As all warriors

[whole latch]

qutting is understandable atm

[flat river]

Just shouting

[whole latch]

quitting* even

[buoyant salmon]

do it then

[vague fern]

i had a stroke when i typed that mesage clearly xD it was meant to say "this xD"

[tidal kindle]

To this extent, yes

[dapper goblet]

[tidal kindle]

Can't remember a time since legion it was this bad for a class that I played

[dapper goblet]

so you didnt play at the start of SL

[tidal kindle]

Iirc SL warrior got buffs as the tier went on

[quiet geyser]

This is what kills me. Archy pretty much does free labor for blizz, all the work and testing without getting paid, and gives them the most educated, and tbh most unbias advice possible, and 99% of the time just look at him and go "na bro".

[tidal kindle]

Not nerfs

[dapper goblet]

warrior was more unplayable then though

[tidal kindle]

True

[loud nexus]

were the buffs to mountain thane reinstated?

[elder granite]

didnt we get buffed like 2-3 weeks into SL?

[buoyant salmon]

dps warrior has a good amount of viable fights

[keen fulcrum]

Blizzard to warriors I don't want you to leave. I want you to dig

[elder granite]

yeah

[dapper goblet]

maybe like a month in

[buoyant salmon]

dont think dps warrior had any viable fights besides denathrius

[dapper goblet]

and then more buffs

[flat river]

Na bro

[dapper goblet]

after tier was over

[vague sierra]

I mean, I'm the only fury warrior on my team so I'm dedicated at least for the tier to not fuck people over. But pushing keys, etc I have no plans to do anything but bare minimum maintenance at this point.

[flat river]

I need 2 more keys at lvl 10

[tidal kindle]

Fury got like 15% in aura buffs during CN that I remember, maybe bit more

[flat river]

Then I'll take a break

[tidal kindle]

Arms was

[elder granite]

i went from finishing at 1.7+mil to 1.4 now

[flat river]

Real me too

[gilded pawn]

Sl added up to 29%

Kinda nuts

[tidal kindle]

Korayn helped a lot too tbf

[gilded pawn]

Arms wasn’t all aura buffs

[tidal kindle]

For last 2 fights

[placid lagoon]

Guys!!!!!! Qucik help me! DId the talents change for RAID? Or still Slayer?

[gilded pawn]

Korayn for sire was pad

[quiet geyser]

24% to be exact.

[dapper goblet]

someone post the clip of warriors jumping off dalaran in protest

[tidal kindle]

Yah ofc, but it made damage number bigger

[whole latch]

korayn was the high/low hp boost right?

pretty good for addspawns

[past pivot]

Read updates channel posts

[tidal kindle]

First strike

[whole latch]

before last phase

[tidal kindle]

25% crit for 5s if you hit mob first

[gilded pawn]

29

Even better

Sin rogue topped out at 51

They were powerful

[quiet geyser]

Pretty sure it was 24. It got like 15-19% during the actual CN patch, also got some in prepatch just before it went live due to the massive venth nerf

[gilded pawn]

I keep track of that stuff

[hollow garnet]

Looked for pins but couldn't find any, are there any sims for how good dracthyr is compared to other races for fury and arms?

[gilded pawn]

I was really into theorycrafting back then

[wet wraith]

bloodmallet isn't updated but from what i've heard it isn't really worth it unless you just want to glide and tail swipe

[placid lagoon]

[hardy cargo]

its roughly = to human/tauren/dwarf so its not bad damage wise

[past pivot]

Glide is pretty good tho

[clever belfry]

worse than velf, mecha and the goats

[clever belfry]

its really

not very useful

actively detrimental with transmitter too

[gilded pawn]

Glide lets you cheese some kickback mechs

But warrior has charge already

[clever belfry]

u also dont get tail swipe, but wing buffet

and 3min cd

[wet wraith]

idk how accurate or useful this is but lets try and spread some misinfo

[clever belfry]

and leap

[sullen dove]

i think its most helpful for the slow as shit classes

[clever belfry]

what misinfo is there to spread here?

drac is really good on priest

like really

really

[sullen dove]

like priest having an instant reliable "stop getting moved" thing is good

yea

[wet wraith]

im saying i can't say that the sim i just ran in 5 seconds is conclusive proof

[quaint forge]

Do we want to pop Avatar or Recklessness first w/ Beserker's Torment?

[sullen dove]

of what a 4k dps difference in multitarget?

i.e. absolutely nothing?

[oblique trail]

Does not matter

[sullen dove]

can do both without losing buff uptime but i think avatar first gets you more rage

[elder granite]

i got mythic shard from vault just in time for the new patch!

[quaint forge]

Thanks.

[oblique trail]

Reck -> Avatar does technically give you more rage

[quaint forge]

And do we just push them both at the same time or wait until the avatar/reck buff falls off?

[sullen dove]

or one of em

[oblique trail]

But doesn't matter anymore in terms of duration

[sullen dove]

yea reck first sounds right

no you can macro them together

reck first ava second

[clever belfry]

profileset."Pandaren"+="race=pandaren"
profileset."Blood Elf"+="race=blood_elf"
profileset."Orc"+="race=orc"
profileset."Tauren"+="race=tauren"
profileset."Troll"+="race=troll"
profileset."Undead"+="race=undead"
profileset."Goblin"+="race=goblin"
profileset."Highmountain Tauren"+="race=highmountain_tauren"
profileset."Nightborne"+="race=nightborne"
profileset."Mag'har Orc"+="race=maghar_orc"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Akunda)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Akunda)"+="zandalari_loa=akunda"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Bwonsamdi)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Bwonsamdi)"+="zandalari_loa=bwonsamdi"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Gonk)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Gonk)"+="zandalari_loa=gonk"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kimbul)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kimbul)"+="zandalari_loa=kimbul"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kragwa)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Kragwa)"+="zandalari_loa=kragwa"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Pa'ku)"+="race=zandalari_troll"
profileset."Zandalari Troll (Pa'ku)"+="zandalari_loa=paku"
profileset."Vulpera"+="race=vulpera"
profileset."Draenei"+="race=draenei"
profileset."Dwarf"+="race=dwarf"
profileset."Gnome"+="race=gnome"
profileset."Human"+="race=human"
profileset."Night Elf (Night)"+="race=night_elf"
profileset."Night Elf (Night)"+="timeofday=night"
profileset."Night Elf (Day)"+="race=night_elf"
profileset."Night Elf (Day)"+="timeofday=day"
profileset."Worgen"+="race=worgen"
profileset."Void Elf"+="race=void_elf"
profileset."Lightforged Draenei"+="race=lightforged_draenei"
profileset."Dark Iron Dwarf"+="race=dark_iron_dwarf"
profileset."Kul Tiran"+="race=kul_tiran"
profileset."Mechagnome"+="race=mechagnome
profileset."Earthen"+="race=earthen
profileset."Dracthyr"+="race=dracthyr"```

[zealous briar]

what u guys would take in which situation after balance patch

[clever belfry]

post this

[sullen dove]

insta hits both

jesus

[clever belfry]

at the end of ur sim

and slam it into advanced

to see for ur char 👍

[oblique trail]

Anda didn't put it in quotes..

[sullen dove]

psure left is always better but see a lot of ppl on logs taking right

[quaint forge]

Okay so the useage doesn't change much. Thanks guys.

[ornate gust]

Why my bladestorm proc?

[elder granite]

reck>avat>spear>ravager no?

[buoyant salmon]

what if i wanna see dn

[sullen dove]

idk if they think its better or just havent upgraded

[sullen dove]

think the thing that gives it extra hits now makes it glow

[tulip swallow]

imagine

[clever belfry]

if 3 stacks

glow

very useless

cause u ALWAYS get it

👍

[soft mortar]

Hey guys, would you purposely play offset piece, due to stats on them, If yes, which one?

[buoyant salmon]

not if i dont use sudden death procs

checkmate

[clever belfry]

i think thats when it should glow

to tell u that ure a dumbass

[buoyant salmon]

LMAO

bettee than how it is now

[sullen dove]

[wet wraith]

[clever belfry]

yeah idk its rly annoying

cause i use styled bars instead of silly weakaura hud

so it just perma glowing is really

annoying

[sullen dove]

🙏 😔

[buoyant salmon]

i love elvui

[clever belfry]

?

[sullen dove]

🙏

[clever belfry]

3m disorder bro

brrrtzzttt sound

[wet wraith]

elvui+decent weakaura+action bars off = big gaming

[sullen dove]

idk what she does dmg wise havent logged in that game in months

[oblique trail]

Anda whaled to get c6 burnice

[sullen dove]

just listenin to the song...

[clever belfry]

if u turn off action bars

[sullen dove]

over and over...

[clever belfry]

why use elvui

[digital mauve]

so how does fury and arms feel rn?

[clever belfry]

true

so true

-10000000€

[wet wraith]

cuz i like the rest of elvui

[clever belfry]

i will just use bars instead of auras for better perf

thank u very much 👍

[oblique trail]

Need to give China gamble company more money

[sullen dove]

🫡 yes

[clever belfry]

theyve received a non 0 amount of money from me 👍

[chilly plume]

i swapped to full send single target spec this week and this is how i find out why i got a fucking 13

[clever belfry]

zzz i think i bought 2 battle passes and 2 subs

the other one

yeah

[still basin]

Rashanan Adds count again?!

[sullen dove]

guild didnt kill rash last night... missed out my chance for a potential day 1 100

def not gonna beat all the eu padlords

[still basin]

Knowing Kihra we'll get a new Log Filter anyway after next weeks tuning pass

[summer crater]

Still going arms on rash

[warm crag]

it will probs be allstar disabled

[sullen dove]

naw...

[midnight cairn]

Do Fury Warriors have any top tier copy pastas?

[humble plover]

every op class is a reason to nerf fury

[summer crater]

Just create one that's just caps lock

[pseudo marlin]

dragon time

[sullen dove]

there is no way those animations arent goofy asf

gotta say tho it is def a bonus that you dont have to fight in dragon form

[humble plover]

they sure are

[sullen dove]

cuz like visage dracthyr are kinda cool

[haughty belfry]

does unhinged no longer proc bloodbath?

[pseudo marlin]

visage looks alrighty

u can just disable dragon form

glide and double jump is meta

[sullen dove]

well i mean female visage is just female human

but yea

[pseudo marlin]

cant wait to test this shit out in pvp

lmfao

[fair wolf]

is better transmisor HC than Khardros Myth?

[sullen dove]

but i think more lettin the like quirky face customization shine is better

[thorny cove]

I have a question: if you craft a 636 omen wep does it make your offhand upgrade cost free or does it not count since you technically didn't "upgrade" a weapon

[wet wraith]

u know why enh never gets nerfed? cos their discord is fucking DEAD and doesnt have 5 turboautists simming every single variable every single hour of the day, THEY FLY UNDER THE RADAR meanwhile our buff gets annoucned and 5 minutes later we got a full scientific paper detailing how its a 11.959185% buff with 0% margin of error u did this to yourselves

[sullen dove]

probably not but you can sim em and find out

its not bad to have two onuses though pretty good on brood twister

maybe silken court useable too

[fast mural]

show dragon slam animation

[summer crater]

Crafting counts

[fast mural]

did they reuse the human one or made something new

[thorny cove]

ooh cool

[edgy widget]

lmao you clearly don't know Shamans very well

[prime badger]

crafting a ring with wrong stats and then re-crafting still work for crest economy ?

[polar patrol]

unhinged does not trigger bloodbath anymore during bladestorm?

[lone apex]

is the move anger management now ?

[summer crater]

It's a copy pasta

[wet wraith]

i can't take credit for that one, that was from the dk discord

[crystal coyote]

I don't think I have ever seen class discords this mad

Lmao

[edgy widget]

if yall had any idea how much private dev communication Shaman gets compared to every other class 👀

[full bison]

mage iirc

[proper onyx]

Yeah was mage first

[wet wraith]

have you tried befriending ion?

[sullen dove]

so shaman guy is just sandbagging how good the class is then...

ele doing 4mil overalls in keys..

[edgy widget]

na, we went to a bar once but all he wanted to do is talk about Hades

(true story)

[tidal kindle]

[buoyant salmon]

based

[summer crater]

Imagine having all three specs be meta basically

[orchid dagger]

Bro really didn't want to talk about brown class

[edgy widget]

the game btw, it had just released in early access and was blowing up at the time

[tidal kindle]

https://tenor.com/xAYT.gif

[wet wraith]

im sure he hates talking wow all the time tbf

[trail bane]

Hades is really good though

[prime badger]

crafting a ring with wrong stats and then re-crafting still work for crest economy ?

[orchid dagger]

Apparently better than brown class buffs

[humble plover]

damn i was hoping he lives in constant doom and wanted to talk about hell

[trail bane]

Everything is better than brown class

[halcyon cedar]

is the bis list on wowhead the correct bis list? saw many furys with very rae neck and hands from ovinax.

[edgy widget]

Hades unironically influenced a lot of Torghast design, although Torghast ended up getting streamlined so hard that it kinda lost the flavor of "run to run variance" that a true roguelite like Hades has

[frail spire]

such a warlock thing to want to talk about

[molten wing]

i don't think Ion paid too much attention to Hades considering what happened with Torghast

[trail bane]

very rare neck drops at 639 so its really good atm since you probably wont have crests to upgrade your neck

[summer crater]

I thought you really meant Hades the greek

[sullen dove]

the greek

[trail bane]

as for gloves some people prefer to use gloves as off piece, i dont think the dps difference is large enough to make a difference

[polar patrol]

is unhinged talent bugged?

[edgy widget]

yes, no, maybe? see #updates-midnight

[halcyon cedar]

ah kk, ty ❤️

[molten wing]

i guess playing Thane on Ovi'nax would still suck

compared to Slayer :?

[sullen dove]

ya

[buoyant salmon]

so hades made me do torghast 29 times

[sullen dove]

bladestorm very good

[buoyant salmon]

fuck

[sinful orbit]

Hades good game

It’s on Netflix games now

[humble plover]

only 29

[molten wing]

Sadge i'm slowing falling into the "Thane feels good to play" trap

[edgy widget]

it is, a lot of Blizz folk were geekin hard over it at the time

[summer crater]

I mean the nick is nice to healers too

Neck even

[pseudo marlin]

avatar makes u larger than life in dragon form

[wet wraith]

thane feels good and then i go back to slayer and it feels great too. just been swapping back and forth

[sinful orbit]

What is this abomination

[wet wraith]

thane feels better with frenzied enrage but doesn't seem worth the dps difference

[fast mural]

miss

[gilded pawn]

Surprised cuz shaman didn’t get any changes to their class until deep into beta

[edgy widget]

Shaman is a buggy mess

[normal bane]

the game is a buggy mess

[edgy widget]

pretty much always has been

na, Shaman is on a whole other level

[buoyant salmon]

this patch is insanely buggy

[sinful orbit]

It seems like they don’t khow what to do with it

[mossy fox]

I LOVE THIS PATCH

[sullen dove]

hmm this seems normal https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZtmLXT7BqDyhf8Fx#fight=23&type=damage-done

[gaunt moat]

bruh i just checked the enhancement shaman pins

[wet wraith]

glad you're here so i can form my opinion king

[gaunt moat]

they literally taking talents based on how many are bugged

[rocky wharf]

have u tried upgrading your graphic drivers?

[edgy widget]

yup, I'm telling you - Shaman ends up strong sometimes because its bugs just happen to be more beneficial than detrimental

[quaint fern]

"is everything right now because it hhas the fewest links to bugged/new talents" huh

[molten wing]

[jolly mist]

I can’t wait for the fury buffs next week

[sullen dove]

yea that looks good to me

[jolly mist]

[hasty tide]

@edgy widget curious if you think warrior will get any additional tuning to compensate the triage of small nerfs we have gotten or if blizz likes where we are at in total?

[dapper goblet]

bis st talents atm dont even have lava lash

[humble root]

Did they buff it?

[dapper goblet]

so minus 2 hero talents for fun

[jolly mist]

No, I’m manifesting

[humble root]

XD

[gaunt moat]

wtf

[edgy widget]

Warrior unironically been fairly bug free; I mean there are a couple small ones still floating around but nothing really major before this patch

[jolly mist]

They have unannounced changes coming next week

But who knows what that’ll include

They as in blizzard

[tidal kindle]

OF target cap reduced to 3 and another 5% aura nerf for good measure

[trail bane]

Mr cake is too calm in his videos, there should be more fire and destruction and rage and stuff

[buoyant salmon]

that weird execute bug(?) was/is annoying

i havent noticed it recently though

[tired dragon]

Whirlwind damage increased by 8% incoming

[wet wraith]

yeah but when critcake starts dooming thats when its real

[elder granite]

nerf titans grip

[jolly mist]

I’m tired of feeling weaker every week

[elder granite]

smf inc

[edgy widget]

I mean I hope it does, and I've been pushing for it because I absolutely think it's warranted (especially if this Reap "bug" turns out to be a "feature"), but it's Blizz so who knows what they'll actually do

[buoyant salmon]

where execute consumes your sudden death but doesnt actually hit the enemy so you cant reuse execute and your marks arent consumed

[edgy widget]

Blizzard is the absolute master of saying "we'll keep a close eye on X and make adjustments as needed" and then not making another change for 3 months

[marsh venture]

Unbridled Ferocity doesnt proc berserker's torment right?

[trail bane]

Sadly it wouldnt change anything as shown by what happened with the patch.

Critcake even blessed Blizzard with a warning about Thane changes not being on PTR and it still went live.

If Blizzard dont watch Critcake videos there is 0 hope for warriors

[edgy widget]

it does not

[normal bane]

was is bfa where they said they would be taking a close look at enh then give a rework

[sinful orbit]

I just hope they give us a bit of rework across all specs

[marsh venture]

Thank you

[jolly mist]

Blizzard really really dropped the ball with fury. The first round of nerfs was fine, but Fury really just benefitted from how fast everything was dying in M+ imho

[tired dragon]

Thane is actually so fun I hope in future patches it’s the go to raid spec

[normal bane]

then come out and say like 6 months laters we didn't have enough time and have to wait until next expansion

[wet wraith]

im just gonna pay max to make a tweet about warrior

[edgy widget]

they will not, certainly not in a hotfix

[distant knot]

Warriors try not to be shit at the start of an expansion and be monsters at the end: starter pack edition

[sinful orbit]

I meant in later patches

[edgy widget]

there will almost certainly be some 11.1 changes, but that's gonna be a couple months still

[trail bane]

We will get a rework eventually, in like 8 years or so

[hasty tide]

Appreciate your insight man, from a casual andy perspective like mine it's easy to feel disconnected lol

[buoyant salmon]

they were good in vault though lol

[normal bane]

with all the class tree reworks that other specs get 24/7, can they just let us take the mastery node without inting our damage

[gaunt moat]

we were actual monsters at the end of dragonflight!

[jolly mist]

The core of fury feels fine

They just keep turning the knobs too far

[still basin]

https://i.imgur.com/HPFDZMt.png Any idea why Pot is not being used?

[trail bane]

They just need to make a few more shadow priest and shaman reworks before they can rework warrior

[buoyant salmon]

dps warrior was consistently good through all of dragonflight, sometimes arms sometimes fury but stayed good

[edgy widget]

Every single tier of Dragonflight started out with Fury looking strong on week 1 and then getting nerfed into oblivion (or everything else just getting buffed above it)

[still basin]

Worked fine before patch. Tried re-doing Macro and reloading, changing order

[feral notch]

So as Mtn Thane I just Thunderclap as filler instead of WW/Slam?

[edgy widget]

p much

[feral notch]

Ty

[buoyant salmon]

fury specifically gets shafted more often than any spec should but the narrative that dps warrior as a whole is consistently bad is wildly inaccurate

[gaunt moat]

i have a bug aswell i don't know why but if i have less than 20 potions they don't use themselves i've no idea why

[orchid dagger]

All I'm hearing is that being brown class is suffering

[stable sundial]

Hello, anything changed in terms of build that we do for ST ?

[jolly mist]

And Thunder Blast above both Rampage and Crushing blow, even in ST, yeah?

As long as we’re enraged that is

[still basin]

i thought so too but i upped it to 30 now instead of 15 and still persists >.< we just manual it until now?

[normal bane]

we're not even bad now(in raid)

ppl just doom so hard

[orchid dagger]

Check for ranks, because I can Saltwater Pot no problem

[dapper goblet]

keep fighting the good fight. @normal bane @buoyant salmon

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAO

[distant knot]

It’s okay my fellow unga bungas when we get our stats later in the expac we’ll be good and picked in mythic+ again

[orchid dagger]

PvE War is fucking atrocious

[still basin]

How would I add a rank into the macro? I shift-clicked the item :/

[normal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/officer-doofy-salute-goofy-gif-15829687

on it

[buoyant salmon]

i think dps warrior is pretty bad right now

[gaunt moat]

can't

[dark mica]

@edgy widget i'm looking at Rash logs, did you notice adds put back into WCL parses? do we know if that's intentional?

[normal bane]

it is intentional

[tidal kindle]

Yes it is

[gaunt moat]

yes it's intentional

[dapper goblet]

you see, arms (bad) is a good spec first tier of the expansion because at that point is better than fury (bad) because fury scales better (good) as the time goes on and you get more and more stats (scaling) every tier, so at the end of an expansion generally fury is better (good) because it scales (good) better

[dark mica]

ok

[buoyant salmon]

but ppl keep going for these historical points thats are just wrong

[dark mica]

interesting

very interesting decision

[gaunt moat]

it's intentional so we get higher on the logs then they can't buff us

[orchid dagger]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was their logic

[dark mica]

it's moreso wild to rip that in the first place

and if you do, walking it back now is just like

i played 'wrong' for killing adds and 'wasted' weeks of parsing on reclear

[orchid dagger]

I mean they had to because people simply wouldn't kill adds

[buoyant salmon]

it was a weird change wcl ppl heard nobody liked/wanted that change so they reverted it

[normal bane]

removing it from all stars is normal

removing adds from the fight is weird

[buoyant salmon]

shouldve went arms to get an easy 100 for the whole season

[distant knot]

Giga Brain

[dark mica]

real

[gaunt moat]

i'm doing my 10s for the vault i feel like a leper

[edgy widget]

yeah they announced it ahead of time - I was going to make an update announcement about it, but it got lost in all the other shit that happened yesterday

I did update the guides to note that it is once again a multitarget fight for ranking purposes though

[harsh violet]

Looking at wcl for the last day shows fury doing much better in raid

[modern elm]

Rash add diff m8

[harsh violet]

it's like 12 parses but still number go up

[uneven plume]

Can I get a quick sanity check on my damage profile on the mountain thane M+ build? +6 CoT

[jolly mist]

Should bloodbath ever be above CB?

[normal bane]

it will get higher as queen logs go public

[wet wraith]

bussybonker

[modern elm]

💯

[uneven plume]

I bonk

[fickle cedar]

are you running uproar ?

[modern elm]

Then nerfs….lol

[dark mica]

appreciate it, and completely understandable given the mess of bugs from yesterday and even into those continually being discovered today 🫡

[fickle cedar]

cause that roar damage is kinda high, TB should probably be above it

[uneven plume]

No the build says Thunderous Words

[gilded void]

Anyone tried AM Thane above 10+ keys already? How does it looks compared to Archi numbers on the dps faq? Too much CDs desync or?

[uneven plaza]

can't wait for our 3% aura buff next week

[wet wraith]

on thane you get buffed bloodbath that crits really hard

[uneven plume]

I get the feeling I'm not pressing TC enough but I also don't get a ton of procs

[jolly mist]

Gotcha 🤝

[uneven plume]

I am pressing bloodbath whenever it's up tho

[calm swallow]

Yeah AM just doesn't chunk like it used to

[quiet geyser]

Is it though? Atleast for specifically fury, Df S3 was probably the best fury has been in a LONGG time. Besides that, i cant remember a time fury was actually good, since prob EP, outside of a few bursty pad fights. Fury is also notorious for being nerfed into needing god state JUST before a patch goes live, or immediately after. Happened literally every patch in shadowlands lol

[jolly mist]

CB still higher prio than BB, even as Thane, yeah?

[uneven plume]

AM?

[uneven plaza]

Anger Management

[uneven plume]

Yes but I wind up pressing CB once and then it reverts to RB, so then my next button press is BB

[fading sky]

Cb b4

[wet wraith]

yeah cuz CB buffs bloodbath

[jolly mist]

Sorry, was asking that question for my sake. Not implying you were doing anything wrong

[fading sky]

Id cb-rb-bb

[uneven plume]

no worries, I'm here for help so I'm all ears

[uneven plume]

to get to the 30% buff stack?

[fading sky]

And slaugthering

[uneven plume]

I know in the slayer build I would wait til 45%

[fading sky]

And rage

[uneven plume]

So rage I manage independently but yes

[queen linden]

Love ele shamans getting buffed. They needed it. Good for them.

[fading sky]

Well all depends if cds no cds

Rage amiunt but

[uneven plume]

oh shit I wasn't tracking Slaughtering Strikes

[tidal kindle]

Don't need to

[fading sky]

No cds cb-rb-bb-ramp-tc

[tidal kindle]

Doesn't affect decision making

Whatsoever

[buoyant salmon]

fury was good in sepulcher, arms good in sanctum, fury good in early vault, arms good in later vault, arms and fury both good in abberus, fury good in amirdrassil

[edgy widget]

honestly their changes were really good, they just overdid the % buffs

[fading sky]

Every shaman is praising.changes rotationwise

But hell id press rbrbrbrbrrb if we did top dmg

[quiet geyser]

Fury was ok in sepulcher. Fury was ok in vault. Fury was shit in abberus by mid patch. dunno man, ok or mid =/= good.

[dull cliff]

Has anyone tried using spear in M+? How do we feel about it

[fading sky]

Abbe we had arms

[pseudo dawn]

Bring back execute or condemn!! 😂😂😂spear is dog 🐕 water 💦 lol

[fading sky]

Arms condemn hight of gameplay🤣

[uneven plume]

yeh condemn botting was fun

[buoyant salmon]

im talking about prog relevance not really the extended duration of the patch

fury was good on prog in abberus

[uneven plume]

no thoughts, just bonk

[buoyant salmon]

it fell off for sure youre not wrong

[fickle cedar]

i like now execute is wet noodle

[prime badger]

crafting a ring with wrong stats and then re-crafting still work for crest economy ?

[uneven plume]

it's so weird that execute isn't part of our identity anymore and it's just a rage generator

[quiet geyser]

Ok so being ok for the first few weeks for the races for the 0.01% of the playerbase isn't a good point to make

[formal ravine]

idk i am still enjoying fury.. the rotation of obliterate and frost strike is a bit stale but it's fine

[quiet geyser]

Besides, the amount of time furys been shafted just before or near the beginning of a major patch, is legit incredible

[buoyant salmon]

better than okay but fair

still played fury in m+

one of the best non mage/sin rogue options

[summer crater]

Bring back vanilla fury

[quiet geyser]

Ya s2 fury was legit until aug came out

[buoyant salmon]

even after aug came out it was one of the best 3rd dps

[quiet geyser]

But for raid purposes, furys been shafted i would say for the greater part of almost 3 expansions now lol. Some highlights due to boss design..but pretty mid overall

[buoyant salmon]

outside of mage/sin and spriest

can agree to disagree i guess, fury has been consistently good but not great in raid for the greater part of 3 expansions

outside of a couple clear valleys

[fading sky]

Warrior was ok in sl once we got tier

So 2 out of 3 raids

Carried by gaveler in last but still🤣

Season 1 i played dk ngl

[weak tulip]

hello. there is WA for Mists`s Maze ?

[fading sky]

Ye

[quiet geyser]

? Warrior sucked ass s1 sl. It was ok s2, arms more fury was kinda mid. S3 it was ok as well, relied heavy on gavel. But remember all 3 of those patches fury got gimped just before patch went live lol

[fading sky]

Waigo search

[fading sky]

Season 1 i was fury for 1st 4 bosses🤣

It was fuckin rough

Well if either fury or arms is good im ok

But atm neither are good, and arms feels horrid to play

[median dust]

watching Crit do 2m avg with spear build

[mental tangle]

with cds its just cb bb rampage repeat right

[buoyant salmon]

fury got “gimped” before sepulcher but was still very good

[mental tangle]

execute on 3 stacks

[fading sky]

Still tc.procs

[mental tangle]

oh this is for thane my bad

[fading sky]

Well if slayer yes

[mental tangle]

yeah cool got it ty

[buoyant salmon]

well id say dps warrior was good as a collective fury was good on a few fights arms good on the others

[fading sky]

Ye this

[quiet geyser]

It was mid. Not really good. Also had terrible boss dam as per usual, and relied heavily on AoE fights

[wary fjord]

Warrior is good rn, look at prot

[oblique granite]

Hey i was thinking about playing AM on like ansurek to have bladestorm up more often. do we have any good talent builds for AM ? maybe im late to the party hehe

[wary fjord]

The DPS specs suffer so prot may prosper

[fading sky]

Imagine giving a class of - bs - roar amd be suprised its nut at burst

😅

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think relying on aoe fights is a bad niche to have though

boomkins whole thing for a long time was spread aoe

[fading sky]

Neither

Problem is if u suck at m+ as well tjwb

😅

[eager thorn]

Shouldnt have to

You get bs back for most big aoe times

[fading sky]

Ansurek

Get intervene

Sp u can get out🤣

[wary fjord]

Just pay your priest to grip u

[eager thorn]

Or just leap out charge in

[covert sierra]

yeah unrelenting onslaught is enough

[eager thorn]

Its uncommon that i dont get bs back for 2nd wrest pull

[fading sky]

2 in a row so u cant on 2nd

[oblique granite]

yeah but its the net tombs she cast, we have to little strong aoe and i like being able to spell reflect then go BS to getr everyone out 🙂

[eager thorn]

You bladestorm the second

[fading sky]

U immune to pull if u bladestorm?

[oblique granite]

Bladestorm on pull then second net?

[eager thorn]

Odins and bladestorm first set
Reck ava roar second
Odins bladestorm third

[oblique granite]

ahh okk

[eager thorn]

Yes

[oblique granite]

that sounds really nice. should have thought about that but again i am a zug zug 😉

[eager thorn]

If you watch critcakes heroic ansurek kill you can see how it plays out and how you should get cds back up for the big aoe moments

[oblique granite]

okey im gonna go have a look thanks 😄

[warm crag]

depends how old the vod is

you cant copy the p2 timers from whatever he uploaded week 1

[jade jacinth]

Are there anything important to get from the 20th anniversary HC vendor? So many new effects that I cannot find simmed

[fading sky]

Mby roccor trinket

[ashen siren]

guys, do you too sim better to stack mast/haste gems vs unique colors for the blasphemite?

[past pivot]

#updates-midnight message

[feral ivy]

is there a massive diff from spear vs no spear in m+ in dmg

[jade jacinth]

mb, cheers

[past pivot]

Yes. One has a spear. One doesn’t.

[eager thorn]

Why

[warm crag]

you wont have them for p3

[fading sky]

Cant find the trinket in sims though

[jade jacinth]

Guessing it's worse, since only Flame Wrath is mentioned

[jagged sorrel]

I guess it depends on your current gear/stats. Mine simmed better for Vers/Haste gem earlier for an extra unique color

[fading sky]

Ye but is it worse at same ilvl😅

Some of us are rockin hc trinkets

[rotund ginkgo]

do we play AM on ansurek now?

[feral notch]

So if I'm reading the wowhead prio list correctly, raging blow is above bloodthirst in single target but lower in aoe? Is that correct?

[oblique granite]

Is there anything special i need to focus on rotation wise? it feels like im not getting out my damage good enough. like some video that explains it in details. cause im 622 Ilvl and i should do more than just about 1.2m overall in 10+ no flame please havent played in like 3 expansions 😛

[sick jungle]

can blizz get anything right man, khaz algar flight master achieve is still fucking broken

buffoons over there i swear

[eager thorn]

Typical