fury

[sullen dove]

lava bursting filth

[sick jungle]

and then when i call them out they say 'not used to lusting'

[south kayak]

something a class you should reroll to has

[dapper goblet]

i dont lava burst donkey

i ele blast

SOMETIMES

[frank rover]

encha?

[sullen dove]

Lightning bolt merchant

Melee shaman when 80% of their dmg is ranged abilities

[eternal sundial]

Fire dog moment

[dapper goblet]

i will be dropping a totem now

instead of tempesting

[valid pulsar]

any thoughts on that

[normal bane]

real talk, when are they going to remove parry from this game. To quote the great gromnak, "wizzards would freak out if their spell was blocked"

[sullen dove]

[sick jungle]

bring back weapon skill

[frank rover]

parry is the most doghsit thing i discovered this expansion

[fast mural]

ret and enh shaman should get ranged mechanics change my mind

[sick jungle]

[frank rover]

on sikran

[runic violet]

ret is almost a ranged dps

[frank rover]

u can't stay behind the boss because of the mechanics

[normal bane]

the best part is m+ doesn't even have parry

its just raid

[sick jungle]

DF ret was already pretty much ranged melee

[fast mural]

it still is

the only reason to be in melee is auto attacks

[bleak fox]

if ret didnt have to auto attack it would be a ranged

[dapper goblet]

classic mode enabled

[dire oak]

Just got the 626 seal of the poisoned act but i simmed with the gear i have atm and it says the gear i have its better. Can anyone help ?

[south kayak]

Baseg

[normal bane]

remove parry from the game and bring back stat reforging

[sick jungle]

did you max sockets on it?

[normal bane]

no one likes being forced into shit stats just because

[fast mural]

nah ive seen alot of rogues being mad kingsbane got parried

[sick jungle]

and enchant

[fast mural]

finally more people are upset about parry

[bleak fox]

[lucid root]

bring back 3-4 slots of gems on every piece of gear and make gems phatt asf agian

and reforging

[normal bane]

everyone hates parry

ranged will tell you its fine

but if you bring up spells being blocked

[dapper goblet]

just stand behind the boss 4head

[normal bane]

then they all of a sudden change their mind

[fast mural]

ranged will tell you parry is fine but they dont want to have resist back

[runic violet]

Just nerf warrior one more time to be sure

[fast mural]

sus

[rocky thistle]

Where's the gromnak clip

PARRY WARBREAKER

[bleak fox]

||it will be in the next 2 weeks im telling you ||

[dire oak]

No but i simmed circles of bones without sockets and enchants with the poisoned act and still got outdamaged

[past pivot]

Bring back hit rating and weapon skills

[normal bane]

CS being parried as arms made me want to alt f4

[dapper goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHEWfuAV1fg

[normal bane]

we don't want hit rating back

just remove parry

[sick jungle]

just sim yourself with your current gear, and the seal with 2x sockets + ench

[south kayak]

@dapper goblet is Totemic gonna be used for raid or M+?

[fast mural]

no dont remove parry ad resist back

[valid pulsar]

maybe because the sim missed sockets ? Make sure to also select both the 4 algari checkbox so it sims that correctly. Also arent you supposed to equip the higher itemlevel weapon in mainhand or am i wrong here ?

[fast mural]

lets all have some flavour

[runic violet]

Make warrior semi range.... with big fucking melee reach

[heavy flax]

add parry to dungeon bosses 😈

[sick jungle]

send sim

[fast mural]

you´d thing that a guy wielding 2 2handers would have more range than a guy using daggers

[dire oak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wfsb1fpvpoqADanLo3CKYM

[south kayak]

rogue doesn't have additional range anymore

[runic violet]

rogue can dps from another galaxy

[frank rover]

well

arms channel isnt doing any better

[dapper goblet]

i think right now from what i saw totemic is best st

and thats it

[south kayak]

okay

sounds cool at least

to try it

[normal bane]

totemic for enh looks like an attack on god and should never have been released

[sick jungle]

you're simming with the upgraded circle of bone as well, you can see in the sim that umbriss + seal is next best

[dapper goblet]

yes

[normal bane]

specs sharing hero talents should have never happened

[frank rover]

this sim is wrong

[normal bane]

thats how you get totemic enh

[dapper goblet]

i will have to move my totem a lot

[sick jungle]

meanwhile umbriss + base circle of bone is worse

[frank rover]

it is mathemnatically impossible to do this damage

ST

with ur gear

[tame lily]

its dungeon slice

[dire oak]

I was doing this because i was comparing if i upgraded the circle of bones to the same ilvl

[south kayak]

that does sound annoying but meh

[valid pulsar]

look at this bro

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w71DY3yYnLAv4LGRpZiGBb

[sick jungle]

yeah but you should remove the 619 circle of bone then

because the 619 with 2 sockets + ench is better than a 626 with nothing on it

[valid pulsar]

that is the correct sim

[sick jungle]

ty, i was just about to do this

[dire oak]

How did i lost 400k dmg ?

[sick jungle]

dungeon slice

don't bother with it

[valid pulsar]

you always sim 1 target 5 minutes patchwerkl

with st talents

[sick jungle]

even with m+ talents

[dire oak]

oh shit okay. Thanks

[young fern]

I havn't really done raid, but in terms of basic abilities, is there any point spamming raging blow is the priority? Idk why but this Hekili style WA keeps wanting me to spam it when it has charges. It's almost always Rampage, Crushing blow, BloodBath in that order? If enough rage to ramage, rampage again? Or do you use raging/bloodthirst sometimes too?

[sick jungle]

don't bother with dslice

[dire oak]

My bad

[solemn hearth]

I almost had a heart attack when I read someone who is just 4ilvls above me sims 400k higher OmegaLuL

[sick jungle]

no stress bro, learning to sim is just another aspect we all learn eventually

[valid pulsar]

[frank rover]

i almost had a stroke seeing a pandarren fury warrior doing 400k more when 5 ilvl lower

[young fern]

Double food buff opop 😄

[dire oak]

I love my panda 🙂

[solemn hearth]

That would’ve been even worse

[valid pulsar]

also make sure to put your higher itemlevel weapon in your mainhand sir

[dire oak]

I already fixed that. Cheers for the tip

I thought it made no diference

so basically the sim says to replace umbriss and put seal of poisoned ?

[valid pulsar]

yeah with the sockets and enchants you see in the sim. and when simming rings ni the future you have to select max sockets for that specific ring so the ring you sim has socket places in it. then you also have to do this to sim for the 4 algari combinations aswell

[frank rover]

i dont think he can do this

without premium

[valid pulsar]

oh

you cant ? that is unfortunate

[dire oak]

You guys have premium

rip

[hidden karma]

best $4/mo

[valid pulsar]

yes very worth it

[eternal sundial]

Borrow it from ppl

I do so since sl

[solemn hearth]

Sub diff lulw

[bleak fox]

guys am i cooked?

or i just can't set up my sim?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2bbo3zuwT6ga5ZNPsVej44

[eternal sundial]

Bozo oh and trinkets i fear

[sick jungle]

why run diamond with all quick onyx

[smoky vale]

https://imgur.com/a/pew-pew-EeLPmFH

[frank rover]

some guy said this was PTR and nrefed

[weary sail]

Are servers up

[smoky vale]

no

[candid falcon]

👀

[weary sail]

Fkkk

[meager cipher]

anyone using quazii's plater profile and spell reflect weakaura? they seem to collide pretty bad and it ends up spamming my chat with plater errors relating to interrupt cd indicator, and the only solution is to turn that off, but it removes any sort of indicator of interruptable spells, so its hardly a solution. figured i'd ask here as well

[feral ivy]

Is servers up I thought they would be down for like 6 more hrs? (I’m at work)

[sick jungle]

5.5 hrs my man

[south kayak]

how many times i gotta see this and say it was nerfed lol

[weary sail]

What the

[nocturne dragon]

speaking of gem what do they categorize as "different colour" like all crit section there considered same colour?

[weary sail]

So late

[smoky vale]

dont care

[candid falcon]

yes those are all the same color

[smoky vale]

if these people get to schizo so can i

[sick jungle]

if you can't figure it out, try out jundies plater profile

[valid pulsar]

there are 4 different types: ruby, emerald, onyx and sapphire. you it says it on the socket

[sick jungle]

personally like it more than quazii's

[meager cipher]

been using quazii for a while now so i'm used to it i guess

[sick jungle]

i was too, until I used jundies

[candid falcon]

does amber count?

[pseudo dawn]

So did they take back nerfs on warriors yet lol

[sick jungle]

personally I just can't lose the nameplate hp markers now

[valid pulsar]

i think so yes but i did not mention that because you dont pick that for dps and to enhance the effect of culminating blasphemite gem you want all 4 types socketed

[oak peak]

Is it worth using one of each color? My sims tell me to use all mast/haste gems currently even with meta gem

[fast mural]

give me some of that copium

mine isnt as good

[sick jungle]

make sure to check the 4+ colour option

[candid falcon]

if frost DK can be buffed so can we

[sick jungle]

and then compare

[pseudo dawn]

I tried with the cope lol

[valid pulsar]

it says that because you did not select this

[pseudo dawn]

Blizzard doesn’t think that way lol

[nocturne dragon]

ummm how good is actually 0.15% crit effect per each different colour? it's just really minor isn't it?

[pastel mauve]

I believe the reason is the raging blow resets buff your Bloodthirst, so rampage to dump rage, RB to hopefully buff BT, and then BT

[oak peak]

Ah! Thanks. I didnt realize that was a thing

[sick jungle]

minor but usually it's still better

[valid pulsar]

i think it did a ~5k difference for me not sure how much it was exactly

[bleak fox]

how many gems do i select after checking those two? i've simmed 2 times after checking that 2 boxes and it still tells me to use all mastery/haste gems

[dire oak]

Thanks for the help @valid pulsar @sick jungle

[wicked wadi]

It’s just like this

[fast mural]

well fire mage did get nerfed

[chilly fractal]

Is Nerf Nerf in whatever language that is

[upbeat blade]

you at least need one of each color in the sim

[wicked wadi]

A warrior knows

[valid pulsar]

you can select all of them except for one but im sure you are limited in combinations without premium

[bleak fox]

i have the heirloom sub on raidbots

[modest condor]

no point wasting iterations on all those gems

just pick the small mastery ones and mast/haste for the mastery main one

the differences are gonna be 0.1% anyway

[pastel mauve]

Yeah, was gonna say the gems are p obvious, right?

[valid pulsar]

yeah i was just showing that he could technically select all

but yes it takes ages to sim too 😄

[frank rover]

can they put chat gpt make patchnotes

[pastel mauve]

Oh god yes

if that was the patch notes, i wouldn't be gearing up a ret rn

[rotund iron]

So back to slayer then

[fresh knoll]

Gems also feel kind of undertuned

[night relic]

minor 5% perma shield

interesting

[glossy burrow]

gems suck i miss old gemming

[modest condor]

they're about 0.3-0.4% per gem

pretty similar to previous expansions

[frank rover]

i dont get why it put the shield

maybe when ur full hp?

[pastel mauve]

Slayer has always been the play in raid, but for M+ Mountain thane is still likely better, depending on comp

at least from what Critcake was saying

[modest condor]

i might give AM slayer without OF a try in m+

[rotund iron]

They nerfed OF and Roar so why would Thaine be better when meat cleave and reck got a little buff

[olive wraith]

Am slayer might be slightly wonky

[rugged maple]

That's not real patch notes.

[fast mural]

is AM thane a thing now?

[olive wraith]

It most likely will be

[glossy burrow]

ffs i completely missed that

so if the spells get upgraded after rampage they dont profit from the buff?

[frank rover]

no lmfao

if anything

[olive wraith]

Correct

[frank rover]

messing up ur rotation is 30% worse

after next patch

[glossy burrow]

how so?

[frank rover]

cuz ur counterpart just got buffed

[olive wraith]

?

[frank rover]

tbh

[pastel mauve]

The Umaru posted notes arent real, those are a chat GPT thing. Thane also doesn't always take OF, slayer aoe is also built on OF and Roar

[neon violet]

That is not how it works lol

[glossy burrow]

ehh

[frank rover]

patch is really good for ovi nax

cuz u rum AM

[glossy burrow]

isnt it more like that messing up rotation is more forgiving?

[olive wraith]

Cb/bb is still better than rb/bt

[neon violet]

It means when you are on downtime, your unbuffed abilities are not trash lol

[storm rune]

the point was to balance the diff between AM and RA

[olive wraith]

What eddi said

[tulip swallow]

maybe they shouldn't have nerfed AM going into the expansion then

[fast mural]

fury warriors are so traumatized that a 30% dmg buff to ability look like a nerf

[frank rover]

AM feels very weird in m+

combined with slayer

[glossy burrow]

maaaan i swear i was kinda hyped and didn't read it properly

[frank rover]

u get ur bladestorm way faster than reck

[normal bane]

bad is the proper choice of words

[storm rune]

#fury message

[glossy burrow]

thought single target gets huge buffs which indirectly buffs aoe

[pastel mauve]

AM makes CDs not line up as well, right?

[olive wraith]

I think swapping avatar capstone is probably the play

[night relic]

its like making charge do 500% more damage

[storm rune]

You can see AM pops off pretty hard for MT

[stuck bison]

it is not net gain to single target dps tho after those slayer nerfs

[frank rover]

am i getting talents confused

[fast mural]

warriors are to dumb to manage cooldowns anyway so lets just make then use it on CD * blizzard probably

[frank rover]

is AM the one that reduces CDs when u use rage right

[storm rune]

yeah

[olive wraith]

Correct

Rek/bs will desync

[fast mural]

it is a net gain if you compare last week to this week

[frank rover]

trinkets too

[fast mural]

oh wait the 12 to 10 is this reset ?

[storm rune]

So basically you'll get a lot more ramps and better sustain between packs (I still hate AM desyncing)

[merry night]

Yeah

[olive wraith]

This is why am slayer sounds poopy

[fast mural]

i thought that was last week

[olive wraith]

Am thane sounds good

[merry night]

Nope lol

[frank rover]

what

[tulip swallow]

Nope slayer nerf now

[modest condor]

am thane sounds a lot worse than am slayer

[merry night]

Get ready to get gutted let’s goooo

[stuck bison]

yeah it is not net gain to st dps still

[sick jungle]

doesn't reck/bs already desync now as slayer

[frank rover]

u put the worst feeling hero talents

[modest condor]

slayer already desyncs anyway, so am just means more bladestorms

[olive wraith]

Why? You send rav with rek every time

[frank rover]

with one that desyncs u too

[tulip swallow]

I think there's a concern about not getting enough sudden death procs with AM slayer, at least it feels like it's very close to not getting the full 3 stacks

[modest condor]

contrary to popular belief thane doesnt actually do more damage outside of cooldowns than slayer, its cooldowns are just more prolonged

[pastel mauve]

I can say for certain that as Thane i do FAR more damage in M+ on packs with no CDs then i did with slayer

[stuck bison]

god damn it why they had to broke something works fine. first nerfs was enough already. all they had to do was maybe buff thane accordingly but it feels like they messed up more

[weary sail]

Thunderblast hits hard

[storm rune]

It's already proven that AM Thane is theoretically the way to go

for m+

[weary sail]

By who

[pastel mauve]

Im waiting for Critcake to confirm, but he has a few builds hes testing this week now

[olive wraith]

It’s okay fdk/arcane get buffs

[storm rune]

#fury message

[frank rover]

i fucking

got baited

into the double redirect

[runic violet]

just play an alt like I am.

[stuck bison]

played ravager all DF and i was happy to get BS back but it may not be optimal to play BS anymore xD

[glossy burrow]

how my frost dk which I hit level 80 with first looks at me

[pastel mauve]

However, to change the topic - what does everyone think about hand of justice for Fury?

[oblique trail]

That it's piss

👍

[fast mural]

what is that

[pastel mauve]

BRD trinket

[cosmic lance]

The strength stacking one looks legit

[sick jungle]

is there even anything good from BRD

[storm rune]

1, possibly 2 trinkets

[olive wraith]

Off spec gear

[pastel mauve]

Have people gotten to sim it? I was hoping and praying it was gonna be useful 😭

[tame lily]

SGC when

[frank rover]

ilvl will get dilluted so hard with the new raid

[south kayak]

SMF gear

[oblique trail]

There's none of the gear really that's worth farming or praying for, unless it's on an alt

[frank rover]

the items look horrible

[fast mural]

if that trinket is intended to be bugged its gonna be huge

[oblique trail]

It can only be gotten on hero track gear at the highest, but it's good for alt gearing

[olive wraith]

Ret stonks

[runic violet]

Pinkman stonks

[pastel mauve]

Im a mythic adjacent raider, not enough time to commit to a mythic team, so i pug a few bosses here and there, or run with friends guilds alt runs

so hero gear is useful

[oblique trail]

I think the only trinket that could be remotely worth looking at is Heart of Roccor

[normal bane]

warbound gear turned out to be shit, they said it would be some like a completely innovative way to gear alts

but it's garbage

[frank rover]

innovative?

[oblique trail]

Assuming it works like you can keep it fully stacked as long as you melee

[olive wraith]

I wish mythic track dropped from end of key. At like 12s or something

[normal bane]

no

[frank rover]

it was never like that

[pastel mauve]

Thanks!

[sick jungle]

too OP

[frank rover]

it would invalidate the raid

[glossy burrow]

warbands never sold me it's sooo overhyped lmao

[olive wraith]

Notice I said I wish

[cosmic lance]

at 626 heart of roccor is something like 7100 str

[normal bane]

warbound bank is nice

warbound gear is useless

you should have a loot spec option for warbound stuff so you can at least target an alt

[olive wraith]

Sure it makes raid less mandatory but kinda sucks for people with bad schedules

[cosmic lance]

It would at the very least be competitive with sac brood i'd think

[pastel mauve]

I wish Zekvir had a ??? difficulty that was mathematically impossible, but dropped mythic track gear. I would drink up the rage tears

[sick jungle]

thats what the vault is for

[runic violet]

So... you just play a mage and roll for your alt?

[olive wraith]

Ah yes maybe I get 1 think a week

[sick jungle]

yes and if myth track drops at the end of a 12 then it's technically unlimited per week lol

[olive wraith]

That’s totally a great way get mythic geared before week 12

[normal bane]

wdym roll for your alt lmao

warbound gear is completely random

and not even that common

[sick jungle]

so then go mythic raid 🤷‍♂️

[olive wraith]

I can’t

[sick jungle]

0 chance they invalidate the raid

[weary sail]

Rolling warbound gear what

[pastel mauve]

My buddy has gotten two full sets of warbound tier from raid.

I havent gotten a single WB item from raid

[sick jungle]

wasn't it just in DF where m+ was too strong and it was way too easy to gear mythic track?

people were done with the season in no time

[merry night]

Buff fury idk why arcane and frost got buffs, give us our dps back blizzard u fkin rats

[eternal sundial]

In DF HC track was fairly close to mythic

6 ilvl

Now it's 13 ilvl

[pastel mauve]

Instructions unclear, Slayer strike now heals your target

[frank rover]

any gamers here

[glossy burrow]

this lol

[frank rover]

who tried to intimidate shout the 3rd boss on GB

[glossy burrow]

getting random cloth gear

[south kayak]

damn didn't notice that

[normal bane]

crafted gear also costs a full week of crests this tier instead of just 60

[frank rover]

what

it still costs 60

[normal bane]

no....

[glossy burrow]

90

[storm rune]

S2 was really bad for that, crafted items were full myth and you only had to do... 16s for myth vault. Imagine doing Sixes and having full myth vault.

[normal bane]

it costs 90

[south kayak]

Gilded is 90, Runed is 45

[frank rover]

ohh crafted gear

yeah mb

[glossy burrow]

90 is fine, despite the gear is really powerful

[normal bane]

upgrading is 75

not 60

[buoyant salmon]

you guys arent almost full myth track yet

unlucky

[sick jungle]

unlucky

[glossy burrow]

after many many griefer in sv i finally managed to time a +9...

the trick was to stop inviting mages lol

[south kayak]

Coulda told you that

[glossy burrow]

heh

[storm rune]

My only rule when DPS is don't invite BDK sub 11s (No FDK when tanking either)

Ive never come out of a pug going "Man, that DK played so well"

[glossy burrow]

whats wrong with mages? almost every mage in my keys is trolling

[buoyant salmon]

havent highrolled into having me in your pug

[buoyant salmon]

mage pugs have always been the worst

forever

[south kayak]

IF you invited me you would have

[glossy burrow]

frfr

[sick jungle]

i trust an arcane mage in low keys to do diddly squat

[hazy plinth]

I like playing frost, Machine Gun Mage just feels good.

[south kayak]

Had a shaman in group who never purged the shield on that necromancer in NW

immune shield

[storm rune]

Only person I've ever lucked in to running with from here was one of phil's alts

[sick jungle]

also never take a priest when pugging your own key

[south kayak]

what class was he playing

[sick jungle]

don't get me wrong, there are some amazing priests out there

[open prairie]

had an rsham with 0 kicks

[sick jungle]

it's just not worth the gamble

[rocky thistle]

ilvl 615 mages lusting early in a mists

[sick jungle]

i had an rsham troll us yesterday by not taking poison totem in our AK 10

[glossy burrow]

mages dying 4-5 times to mechanics

[sick jungle]

[open prairie]

my worst experience with pug healers

is always with pres players

[sick jungle]

when I asked why he didn't bring poison totem he said 'usually go left'

because we went middle before the final boss

no fucking idea what that has to do with bringing poison totem

[safe cradle]

How we feeling with all the nerfs 😭

[buoyant salmon]

i mean u bring it anyways lol

[sick jungle]

thats what i mean

[open prairie]

why do pugs like going left in ara

[buoyant salmon]

dps warrior is mid

[glossy burrow]

pink hair devs

[open prairie]

i swear its the worst option

[buoyant salmon]

the middle guy ramps damage

[sick jungle]

avoids the mini boss

[glossy burrow]

dont like big dudes with big weapons

[open prairie]

what about right

[safe cradle]

They like to taste crayons and guess the flavors of windows

[sick jungle]

no idea, just always gone left

[buoyant salmon]

right is the same as left i think

[hazy plinth]

Dps Warriors are always mid. If we get too strong they always put us back in our place.

[pastel mauve]

1 less add from right side

[buoyant salmon]

left is just the default option when given right/left choice in wow i think

[safe cradle]

But a 9% buff to frost dk 🤡

So stupid

[pastel mauve]

I was told its 1 less mob on the left then on the right

[buoyant salmon]

everyone went left on brackenhide release

[sick jungle]

guys it's a rework patch not a tuning patch

pitchforks next week if there is no tuning patch

honestly fuck it pitchforks now

[rocky thistle]

We hear you

[sick jungle]

PROTEST

[pastel mauve]

Warriors wouldn't be upset, if we could read

[safe cradle]

Yeah rework to cripple our class

[chilly fractal]

Pitchforks out

[rocky thistle]

Another tier set buffing bloodthirst

[sick jungle]

based

[safe cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mob-riot-torches-pitchforks-gif-5859895

[leaden cipher]

does the tier bloodthirst buff extend to BB?

[south kayak]

yes

[safe cradle]

Is it time to arms?

[south kayak]

Arms is worse

[leaden cipher]

that is what I thought, but was less sure because of the clear division between BT and BB in this patch

[storm rune]

It was like Phil...gun or Phil thee or something? I'll see if I logged it somewhere to remember the class

[glossy burrow]

maybe for raiding? idk

[pastel mauve]

Arms caught more nerfs then fury this patch

[safe cradle]

Prot warrior for keys it is I guess, I use to be able to get into keys now I can’t get into shit

[elfin hatch]

Blizzard is so out of touch

[lapis shadow]

Why is #fury still active.. shouldn't we be typing in #protection

[safe cradle]

P much

[sick jungle]

tanking is too much pressure

[sinful glen]

man finally found a dps class i like after playing healer almost all of wow and this shit happens

[buoyant salmon]

more fotm doomers

amen

welcome guys

[sinful glen]

what does fotm mean?

[safe cradle]

Pre release they had us at a B tier then we were S tier and they were like “nah we can’t be having that shit fly”

[sick jungle]

flavour of the month

[coarse nest]

It’s dogshit for sure but class is still playable

[sick jungle]

so you basically

[sinful glen]

oooooh

[sick jungle]

[glossy burrow]

what unique utility should warrior get for m+?

[thick fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/monday-good-morning-how-i-react-to-negativity-shield-wall-gif-14758343

[buoyant salmon]

tier lists arent real

[safe cradle]

Ask a dev to lick a window let us know

[sinful glen]

I mean im not changing spec or anything.

[young swan]

in terms of raw % lost, probably

[sick jungle]

im teasing

[young swan]

but im pretty sure fury has more nerfs

[buoyant salmon]

dont really need unique utility

[south kayak]

Devs are literally so clueless it's unbelievable

[buoyant salmon]

(which is like 1% lol)

[abstract flower]

how was fury a fotm spec? dawg they had one week of glory, not even that high up mind you, and then got nerfed twice

[south kayak]

haven't seen someone do their jobs this bad

[hazy plinth]

Other than leap and interupt, Warrior has never brought in a utility mechanic that makes us a viable option over a class that has a better toolbox.

[south kayak]

Fire those clowns

NOW

[pastel mauve]

Believe its 2%, but yeah

[young swan]

well arms lost like 3% or so

[south kayak]

Don't know what the fuck they're doing

[sinful glen]

Reflect 😛

[hazy plinth]

Damage makes it worth it, take away the damage and warriors get the pass.

[coarse nest]

I don’t want any utility, I want to do 30% more damage than everyone else in keys

[safe cradle]

Do devs have a plan or do they just throw shit at a dart board and hope

[sick jungle]

we talking m+ or raid

[south kayak]

I don't usually call for people to be fired, but this is the most deserved way to get fired

[sinful glen]

this guy gets its, with less button presses too thank you very much

[mossy fox]

i think fury can make it through a few more nerfs before we're no longer great on queen, so should probably hit fury (and arms) again

[pastel mauve]

I dont want 30% more damage then everyone else, i want to smack my face on the keyboard and kill bosses

[buoyant salmon]

it was looking to be the best dps spec in raid and one of the best in m+

[nocturne dragon]

mass reflect

[hazy plinth]

M+, raid usually has enough people with utility

[coarse nest]

They will!

[buoyant salmon]

fuck arms amen

[upbeat blade]

"odyn's fury and bladestorm can now only hit 5 targets" type shit

[coarse nest]

[safe cradle]

Which is why we need to pump bc that’s all we bring essentially

[lapis shadow]

See spell reflect WA tell me I'm targeted... It gets interrupted

[safe cradle]

And rally

[glossy burrow]

skull banner 🗿

[abstract flower]

I wonder if the Kazak neck is going to be worth going for this year with the sureki neck being a thing rn

[sick jungle]

thoughts on dratnos's fury nerf take

[sinful glen]

and my WA only says in party when i reflected something, not that im about to reflect,

[pastel mauve]

Every rage you spend increases your latency by an equal amount, resetting every 5 minutes

[smoky vale]

fury is strong

[sick jungle]

ngl i thought it wasn't a horrible take

[buoyant salmon]

what was his take

[mossy fox]

this is a reference to that

[buoyant salmon]

oh that its highly valuable on queen?

[mossy fox]

he just showed his guild's kill and his warrior owning on ansurek

[south kayak]

no-jaw having shit take

[smoky vale]

wes owns

[mossy fox]

so the nerf is prolly justified

[coarse nest]

[abstract flower]

and yet none of the best m+ comps took them over a fdk, and in raid the only fight they really shone at was brood

[sinful glen]

what about M+ though, i aint got time to raid 😦

[buoyant salmon]

ignore that their warriors held avatar for TWO AND A HALF MINUTES

[sick jungle]

like, it was a bad take but not horrible

[restive peak]

People who make money off of knowing information and portraying it should know the information and data or they're trash people 🙂 send to Dratnos I do not care 🙂

[open prairie]

it was good for rash

[pastel mauve]

Yeah, even on heroic, we usually have 1-2 dps at max kill adds on queen p4, because they just evaporate from us

[buoyant salmon]

lmao

[upbeat blade]

20% buff to rampage, improved whirlwind is now 40% down from 55%

[open prairie]

and ansurek

[young swan]

got too nerfed before release

[stuck bison]

i want to beilive

[buoyant salmon]

yes the only fight fury was good at is brood

you are right

and not completely clueless

[abstract flower]

not at all what I said, I said shone at.

[young swan]

it we hadnt had unhinged + OF nerfed by 25% pre-xpac release fury wouldve been fucking disgusting

[normal bane]

now that gripcake is fully online he's unhinged

[pastel mauve]

we need a little ST compensation buff for losing our AoE stuff

[cosmic lance]

Looking at the log in that kill all their add damage was like 4 people so

[sick jungle]

just give us something

compensate us

[buoyant salmon]

wouldve just been the best raid spec BY FAR

[mossy fox]

idk further nerfs arent even gonna surprise me at this point

[buoyant salmon]

not even remotely close

[stuck bison]

make slayer fury great again

[restive peak]

I have to actually understand because I like you, what is it going to take for you to admit it's starting to go a bit too far in both directions?

The argument that you'll still exist in 1 area of the game for 1 purpose is not an argument for balance, or acceptability

[buoyant salmon]

i already agree that theyre griefing at this point

[normal bane]

if they want to keep going after burst aoe(which would be what they nerf again) they need to buff st and sustained aoe

but they wont

[keen pelican]

guys does the odyn's fury buff stack from titans torment or should i wait for it to drop before popping odyn's fury please obviosly i pop avatar first? ty

[buoyant salmon]

this patch might be one of the worst ones ive seen ever besides 10.1.5

[weary sail]

we still better than 4 specs let's gooooooooooo

[restive peak]

Griefing is an understatement, if people had prot warrs prepped and cared about their rank at this point, they would be SMART to bench their warriors, both fury and arms

[stuck bison]

yet

[buoyant salmon]

even that has redeemable qualities like removing cringe abilities (rune of power)

[mossy fox]

kinda unrelated but the newest sc2 patch also sounds like a dumpster fire

[restive peak]

When the balancing has reached the point that that's a realistic statement, something is extremely wrong

[young swan]

yeah genuinely not even close

[normal bane]

taking the wow stats page as gospel for how strong/weak something is is equally dumb as blizzards tuning

[south kayak]

fury deserves nerfs

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/254170190621835264/1113105101675036732/dratnos.gif

[restive peak]

We deserved the 1st set of nerfs, 3% might have been too far but still acceptable

[south kayak]

gg i lost

[restive peak]

This is asinine at this point

[weary sail]

you show us your own research stats about class balance then

[young swan]

that said, I think at this point you could revert the unhinged nerf and we would prob be fine

[mossy fox]

sounds like wow balancing lately

[buoyant salmon]

yeah at this point would be fine

[normal bane]

you mean other than using your brain to look at the fights/parts of fights that fury is taken for?

[buoyant salmon]

but also i think thats not a buff fury needs

[normal bane]

yea who would do that

[buoyant salmon]

meatcleaver just too weak with fury baseline

[weary sail]

big cope

[normal bane]

link me that wow stats page again when rash is back on logs and there are more queen kills

[cosmic lance]

The fact that they can release a "rework patch" that is buffing overperforming classes and it's still being spun as "tuning might happen next week" is also wild to me

[gleaming siren]

I think they should nerf Destruction Warlock in ST to compensate for the AoE nerf

[mossy fox]

fury burst is clearly unhealthy so maybe neuter the burst and give significant consistent damage

[thick fossil]

People haven't taken him seriously since Shadowlands.
I remember seeing all the Dratnos routes linked at the start of a run. They sucked.

[normal bane]

looking at the stats page and thinking warrior sucks in raid is the biggest crayon eating move you can make

but go off king

[sinful glen]

exactly

[south kayak]

blizz: best i can do is nerfs

[stuck bison]

if you all go make posts on wow forums intead of stabbing each other here we might have our voice heard. nwm i am joking blizzard doesnt give crap about warriors

[thick fossil]

I think that was the attempt when they buffed Thane

[red berry]

idk why they didn’t just buff the dot damage and reduce the upfront damage

[simple rain]

r u sayin fury sucks ?

[south kayak]

can't use re-garded anymore

[red berry]

make it take longer

[weary sail]

balancing the game around 2 fights in raid and thinking that is fine is even bigger sniffing glue but you go off king

[sick jungle]

or maybe they should just design fights to not be all about burst aoe

[normal bane]

there is no other class in the game that has the same damage profile fury has, you can cope all you want

[mossy fox]

ya they can achieve that without making AM the best choice

imo

[buoyant salmon]

was w word

[south kayak]

I know

[gleaming siren]

The same fate came to Demo in S1 of DF, having this amount of instant burst is unhealthy, but they always fail to shift the burst and just delete it instead

[normal bane]

there are 2 st fights in this raid

[south kayak]

I'm just sad about that one

[orchid dagger]

Like my ass after a night of Taco Bell

[summer quail]

This is what i was thinking they are doing. They seem very scared to do some actual buffs tho

[nocturne dragon]

F...warrior is 62% prot 36% fury and 1% arms? jesus blizzard...

[gleaming siren]

wtf

[south kayak]

you can fix this if you are actually a competent dev who knows what they're doing

[gleaming siren]

it's the same filter

[south kayak]

but they're stupid

[gleaming siren]

as Priest discord

so bunny girl is okay but not having a space is not

[smoky vale]

yet mage discord you rip it everytime

[nimble ermine]

wait what was datnos' take

[smoky vale]

😦

[summer quail]

Ye that's the problem

[fast mural]

imagine how that looks after people raid

[sick jungle]

fury too good on mythic queen so nerf justified

[upbeat blade]

the nerfs are warranted based on performance on some fights in the raid

[normal bane]

the ppl who link the wow stats page and think fury sucks should link that chart again in 2 weeks when there are more qa kills and rashanan logs being restored and see if that chart still looks the same

[nimble ermine]

lol, lmao even

[frank dawn]

Is Fury burst even unhealthy when they don’t design a fight that lines up with it about as perfectly as possible?

[buoyant salmon]

i think his take makes sense for fury not getting substantial buffs

but for warranting nerfs i disagree

[weary sail]

quoting this so you can eat ur own words in 2 weeks

[normal bane]

you saw what the pre nerf early week charts looked like right?

[sick jungle]

and the funniest part he backs up his reasoning by showing his guilds mythic queen kill

[normal bane]

or do you convienently not remember

[red berry]

just nerf abilities in a zone

[solemn plover]

bunny girl

[gleaming siren]

bunny girl

[weary sail]

comparing pre-nerf fury to post nerf fury???

[normal bane]

and if you think nerfs are what changed that then boy do i have news for you lmao

[weary sail]

[tulip swallow]

windwalker got to keep their insane burst aoe for the entirety of shadowlands

[red berry]

so you don’t hurt the overall performance of a spec

[tulip swallow]

They have different standards for balancing warriors

[mossy fox]

it probably is or at least was at the point where it kinda limited boss desigm

[south kayak]

Hope they nerf FDK to the point they can't play so I can go in the discord and see all the people crying and get some dopamine from it

[cosmic lance]

As someone that's not really up to date on M Ansurek, is it even relevant that fury does a ton of add damage? Surely that damage would happen anyway just over a slightly longer window by any other class

[mossy fox]

and well it's no fun for other classes if fwar is deleting their pad

[south kayak]

God, that's gonna be a good day

[buoyant salmon]

the adds have to die in like 10 seconds

[restive peak]

What are you, nuts? USING YOUR BRAIN?!

[buoyant salmon]

2 stuns a rop and a vortex

[normal bane]

ppl are so brain dead it's actually insane. Wowhead should stick to writing up posts and using pictures that way half of the ppl here wouldn't know what to be mad about since they can't read it

[buoyant salmon]

is all u got really

[fast mural]

so thats why they made all ST bosses in aberrus

[south kayak]

I live to see other classes' nerfs

[pulsar urchin]

would be nice to have rampage to have a more meaningful button press :/

[south kayak]

and watching the players react in discords

[smoky vale]

you die if they dont

[south kayak]

just not mine

[buoyant salmon]

fury was great in abberus btw lol

[fast mural]

yeah cause sark

and echo

the only bosses that mattered

[sick jungle]

man those adds on queen move fucking fast too

[buoyant salmon]

arms better on echo

[mossy fox]

was great

[buoyant salmon]

fury just did good st damage early in the patch during prog

[mossy fox]

fury was great until literally every class got buffed in s2

[buoyant salmon]

it fell off pretty hard tho

[fast mural]

just like every season since S1 DF

[flat river]

Fury in dragonflight was super fun

[mossy fox]

still is imo

[flat river]

Now its just silly

[fast mural]

fury somehow always falls of half way or near the end of a tier

[smoky vale]

pretty sure thats their warrior commenting xd

[clever belfry]

arms was also better on sark for a lot of people (if u had enh and demo deleting adds alr)

[buoyant salmon]

starting good and ending mid i dont think is a bad thing

[south kayak]

Hire devs who know what the fuck they're doing

[tulip swallow]

Frost dk overtuned for months -> "sorry we can't nerf them it would change the level of keys people can do" 🤡

[south kayak]

PLEASE

[clever belfry]

cause it just did a fuckton more boss dam

[south kayak]

FUCK SAKE

[normal bane]

m+ players have a reason to doom for fury, raid dooming over fury is smoothebrain as can be

[sick jungle]

serious question, is there not another spec out there with the same/as good burst as fury?

[buoyant salmon]

played arms got told adds need to die (lol)

wcyd

had to switch back to fury

[normal bane]

no

not even close

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[fast mural]

wasnt a bad thing cause arms started being better anyway

[weary sail]

crit youtube comments are funny

[tulip swallow]

especially post nerf there are several

[smoky vale]

hi mr wonka

[normal bane]

no there aren't lmao

[clever belfry]

i mean yeah if u were not killing adds as a guild fury was better 🤷‍♂️

[flat river]

I would rather play DF fury than this

[orchid dagger]

light mode

[buoyant salmon]

adds were being killed they just were alive 5 seconds longer so the ppl that consistently used kicks ran out

[sinful glen]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[fast mural]

but its the same

[south kayak]

this is definitely new hires doing tuning

[buoyant salmon]

so new ppl had to kick and didnt

[south kayak]

since they fired the other compentent devs

or they left

[fast mural]

nah the other devs are working on 15.0

[buoyant salmon]

box what the fuck are u talking about lmao

how are u still on this rant

complain on the forums or some shit

[shell bison]

Hi everyone, are there any spells i can use before a m+ starts and reset? thx

[south kayak]

I'm never gonna stop until i see some competent tuning

[buoyant salmon]

your messages are worse to read than sprittis or abudabhi

[fast mural]

nope

[south kayak]

who

[shell bison]

thanks ! 🙂

[buoyant salmon]

yikes

[flat river]

Like they nerf fury burst, and thats it

And st too

Sustained nah

Stay where u are

[fast mural]

people are mad at fury nerfs when arms is the spec that didnt even deserve them

[tulip swallow]

neither spec deserved them

[flat river]

Collateral damage

[fast mural]

fury kinda did for raid

[weary sail]

arms getting stray nerfs for some reason

[fast mural]

i dont understand the target cap tho

[normal bane]

fury absolutely needs burst aoe nerfs in order to be a balanced spec, they just can't end it with just that

[fast mural]

everything else is w/e i guess

[flat river]

Yeah

Like pali's divine storm is 5 targets

[tulip swallow]

that's why they nerfed it while keeping everything else the same, right 🙃

[flat river]

But its not a cd

[tulip swallow]

They don't give a fuck about balancing, they buffed frost dk

[flat river]

Cds are 8 targets and above

[fast mural]

why not use wake for your example lmap

[normal bane]

spoiler alert, fury is still by far the absolute best at burst aoe

[flat river]

But nuuu

[tender crown]

yo guys can you actually play the game rn? unless i have a grim batol key people wont ask to join, my rio and ivl is fine for the key range im playing but i just cant form a party, and thats when i post my own key because trying to join one is even worse

[normal bane]

the stuff you brought fury for before does not change 1 bit with the patch

[thick fossil]

S2 Dragonflight? If so Aug was a big factor in that. Many other classes got more out of Aug.

[orchid dagger]

Reroll to FDK

[flat river]

And not even nerfing odyns burst target cap but also its dot cap

Like

Frost dk hello?

[fast mural]

OF is overrated

[pulsar urchin]

^

[velvet obsidian]

Sure. But once that 5 seconds of burst is over we fall off tremendously. Nerf our burst sure, but buff our sustain please god

[flat river]

It is

But like

[nocturne dragon]

Are ppl even play arms now? I mean even before the collateral damage.
There should be something done to arms right? like right now if it's not fury then it's prot, arms is like 2% of the warrior population?

[flat river]

We use it

I want old tenderizer and onslaught build

[orchid dagger]

People play warrior?

[fast mural]

on ST fights they do and now probably on rash too

[pulsar urchin]

gross

[flat river]

And like

Old haste/ms buff

[thick fossil]

You know what they could of done to balance spear to Roar. Buff spear to hit 8 targets as well.

[flat river]

Not 15% extra dmg

;-;

[fast mural]

depending on how many pad monkeys your guild has you can be arms for most bosses

i feel like the cleave dmg on spiders on ovinax is kinda valuable

if you have people who can deal with parasites ofc

[upbeat blade]

the adds are the entire fight on ovinax, not playing fury is kinda trolling

[sullen dove]

HELL NAW

[fast mural]

spiders and worms are kinda more dangerous than parasites

[fast mural]

and furys cleave dmg on spiders is kinda bad

after burst

[cold silo]

😂

[fast mural]

furys class fantasy clearly doesnt fit sustained aoe

[young swan]

i cant play the game cause servers are down, but no, pugging keys is literally impossible unless if you're massively overqualified rn

[pulsar urchin]

idk if ur progging the later bosses i think it seems more like fury is still pretty damn good in a lot of cases. even with you're better in brood, kyveza ur pretty tanky af, silken ya prob arms but fury is likely fine, queen ur still gonna own. in this tier idk... doesn't seem like fury's class current identity is much of an issue other than boss dmg feels like ass which like crit said just more st would make fury feel great better.

[normal bane]

Good thing there is no sustained to spiders and only burst

[restive peak]

Raid in the current WoW landscape is actually a lower portion of the game

[thick fossil]

What even is the warrior class fantasy or damage profile anymore?
We were niche burst aoe, but that's gone compared to other classes. We never really had ST on lock.

[tulip swallow]

Warriors are mushrooms

[young swan]

oh easy answer, there isnt a class fantasy

[south kayak]

the more i read this the more i get mad

[pulsar urchin]

fair take ya

[south kayak]

just gonna go awayh

[restive peak]

We went through a solid time of being very consistent damage, no real peaks or valleys, and personally I loved it

[young swan]

they literally have no idea what they're doing whatsoever

[cosmic lance]

Blizz has always had the idea that fury is meant to be the "5 target cleave" spec and then failed to tune for that for eternity

[tulip swallow]

Historically it was burst, but we aren't allowed to have burst now so who knows wtf the plan is

[thick fossil]

I'd also accept person holding a big stick.

[normal bane]

If you have warriors for ovinax and are telling the warriors to play arms for boss damage because the hunters or something are marks, leave that guild

[oak steppe]

Didnt they buff Ragling BLow and Bloodthirst for an extra 25% damage?

[young swan]

this has only really been true since bfa, but I would consider that the point of "modern wow" beginning so I'll agree

[upbeat blade]

I would say season 3 of bfa fury had fit that niche pretty well, but it was also just really strong that tier

[acoustic coyote]

pretty sure they could revert the last 3 nerfs and warrior still wouldn't be meta

[tulip swallow]

basically entirely counteracted by the nerfs to slayer overwhelmed stacks

[trim tinsel]

Guys, reset is tomorrow. Do i throw away my fury warrior and start playing something else for m+

[cosmic lance]

We were worse than most other dominant classes even at 5 targets

[young swan]

thing is, we also just had good burst that season too

[calm island]

only to make anger management competitive which its still behind anyway

[tulip swallow]

blizzard never follows through on their target cap tuning promises

[young swan]

bote + roar was no slouch

[tulip swallow]

it's always uncapped classes the best in all situations

[sullen dove]

Unless you’re trying to push for title no who cares

[granite kettle]

trying to keep up with all the chatter, but with the raging blow and bloodthirst buffs do we have any data on if Anger Management is better or eqaul to Reckless Abandon now? or is the 50 rage and non-buffed empowers still better?

[sinful glen]

I'm just tryna hit 2500

[upbeat blade]

indeed, blood of the enemy rampage dragon's roar rampage was good

[fast mural]

maybe spear is good in aoe now

[cold silo]

Changing classes for the meta is dumb, just play what is fun and complain instead

[fast mural]

there might be hope guys

[thick fossil]

Bote was on of my favorite Azerite powers.

[young swan]

bote was sick

love bote

[nimble ermine]

bote my beloved

[sinful glen]

I enjoy doing 10+ keys, but a bit hard to do if you never get invited

[nimble ermine]

give it to us as a talent and detroy onslaught

[young swan]

if spear was like twice as big as it is rn, I think I wouldnt hate it

[fast mural]

but you dont have to stand in it anymore

[young swan]

yeah its still fucking tiny

[cold silo]

Yeah I never get invited but I just make my own

[weary sail]

lmk when you get into +12s groups as fury warrior pugging

[granite kettle]

thanks. bit underwhelming all around, but i guess zug zug

[cosmic lance]

I thought the ww/meat cleaver thing started in legion but it was a long time ago

[cold silo]

I’ll probably be making my own +12s in about 2 weeks

[sinful glen]

Doesn't that feel like an unnecessary punishment?

[young swan]

nah in legion it only cleaved bt or rampage and it was only 1 stack

[tulip swallow]

it's been around forever but it's usually been all about bladestorm

[keen pelican]

guys does the odyn's fury buff stack from titans torment or should i wait for it to drop before popping odyn's fury please obviosly i pop avatar first? ty

[upbeat blade]

does not stack, wait to refresh

[cold silo]

Life isn’t easy, give up or try harder

[cosmic lance]

Fair, all I really remember is odyns go brrrr and DoS

[keen pelican]

thanks buddy ❤️

[upbeat blade]

or pop immediately for extra burst on shit that will die instantly like heroic webs on ansurek

just for fun

[shell wigeon]

Can unhinged at least cleave again :3

[warm crag]

@young swan why frost nerf fury buff ?

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[oak steppe]

I still have nightmares about DoS.

[warm crag]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-brick-parry-gif-27597104

[oblique trail]

good parry

BOMM

[iron portal]

DoS was fun way to delete people in world pvp though

How how i miss you

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/k8N0zqgKf2t.gif

[covert blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213326656371171410/1284608470213070923/AUTISM.gif

[oblique trail]

why would you do this to my friends

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-kachina-silly-dance-gif-791448678345413395

[warm crag]

why are your friends biting on my stuff!

[smoky vale]

hola amigo

como estas

[covert blaze]

me when i shoot coins mid-air

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

[smoky vale]

por que

[south kayak]

hope that was a dk

[covert blaze]

hooly

goes hard

[nimble ermine]

the man i aspire to be

[unreal onyx]

real

[tired brook]

cant even hate they’re living the life rn

as fellow melee dps we should be happy that it’s not caster exodia 🙏

[next canopy]

Game up?

Early ?

[tired brook]

8 hour maintenance today

no way its up right

[trail bane]

dks are basically casters

[weary sail]

Nah i be hating

[next canopy]

Ah ok thought I’d check.

[iron portal]

Game up if you are EU

[next canopy]

So maybe 10 pm tonight

[sand crest]

its more so melee exodia rn between assa, enh and dk

[dire vigil]

DK 607 ilvl after looting a hero version of the SV neck that won’t drop for my warrior. Even my loot picks DK.

[tired brook]

rockin the 530 stonevault neck on my dk rn 🙏

[weary sail]

Fury is fine in M+, it is just weaker than frost dk, unholy dk, mage, assa rogue, enhance, ret, aug…

[dire vigil]

The 613 replaced a 554 blue neck lol

Started learning to play breath in a normal raid run last night, definitely screwed it up and topped meters anyway. This is the life

[minor vine]

Do we beat sub or combat rogue

[dire vigil]

We beat blood DK

But only on pulls 5 mobs or less

[verbal rivet]

Guardian Druids wash us out tho

[dire vigil]

My m+ team replaced me for a 2nd guardian Druid

[verbal rivet]

Based af

[dire vigil]

They said come back with your frost DK or don’t come back at all.

[verbal rivet]

At least you got the run back

[dire vigil]

My 628 warrior is just an AH flipping alt now.

[buoyant salmon]

i love making shit up too

[dire vigil]

I make up bid ask spreads

[rough tulip]

choco is based

[oak steppe]

Ladies, please. YOure both pretty

[iron portal]

or neither

as long as there is balance

[ionic plaza]

They nerfed fury so bad the servers still arent up

[hasty tide]

The real protest lol

[thick fossil]

Extended maintenance isn't it?

[cosmic lance]

8 hour maintenance

[void valley]

It was planned extended

[thick fossil]

Fair enough.

[void valley]

Instead of check every hour for a delay extended

[sullen dove]

crazy how it was like 6 hr maintenances for like the first 4 weeks of the tier

[thick fossil]

I mean this is a massive content patch at least. Remastered raid, and tons of cosmetics.

[normal bane]

often even 2 days in a row

[rough tulip]

how come they don’t reimburse us for maintenance time

[dire vigil]

Microsoft is making sure the game is balanced, love the new system! 😄

[minor vine]

They heard your plea and now they are going to nerf fury even more so that you reroll to FDK so your time isint wasted playing fury

[median dust]

If you say anything constructive about warrior in a negative manner. Choco shows up like the police to a crack house

[rough tulip]

just add 4 days to the 30 day subscription since maintenance always extended

[median dust]

Warrior fun, warrior perfect, everyone keep your eyes forward

[rough tulip]

warrior is all i know and i refuse to learn anything else

[slim grotto]

they need the triple check the fury nerfs will finally put the nail in the coffin this time

[manic mirage]

This is me!

[dire vigil]

Every tier I start a new alt and say “why am I maining warrior?” And then I go back to warrior. Every time. Warrior is a drug.

Intoxicated by CB and BB lighting up. I dream of dopamine.

[manic mirage]

Preach

[flat river]

Make onslaught generate 1 charge of thunderblast

Change my mind

[thick fossil]

Slap and clap?

[manic mirage]

I've been saying for the entire expansion so far that I want to level a shaman and I haven't logged into that character even once yet Warrior is life

[flat river]

Yes

And make mountain thane buff iit

[young swan]

shaman is fun as fuck I cant lie

[flat river]

Literally useless capstone rn

[manic mirage]

It looks fun as all get out!

[young swan]

dopamine receptors go into overdrive when you crank out overloaded chain lightnings

[median dust]

I was DK in SL. I’ll probably dust him off today

[flat river]

Ew

Magic user

[nocturne dragon]

tbf a lot of fury's capstone kind of meh or useless right aside from unhinged

[oak steppe]

Remember when they gave an extra day for the extended maintenance? In the best case scenario that was $0.53 cents each.

[gusty compass]

Hope Blizzard are happy to fucked Fury, a lot of people will re roll to other classes and specs now for high end content. Or at least high mid content. Wont even take a fury warr to HC raid run.

[south kayak]

so true!!

[plucky ice]

true

its over man

[keen forum]

here's a discord avatar for the community

[slim grotto]

We have zugged our last zug

Alexa play Skyfall

[weary sail]

It was a pleasure gents

Maybe next patch we will be better

[nocturne dragon]

[slim grotto]

[manic mirage]

Starting to wish I would have leveled another class sooner cuz Warriors the only level capped tune and I have and it is what I will be bringing to Ray tonight and what's hilarious is I'm still top five or better DPS because my guild has such horrendous Raiders

[glass kelp]

is it really this bad ??? i mean i've been levelling a fury as a new main for the past couple of days, and i just stopped by to see what it up in here and i see all this lol

[restive peak]

Fury will have no real benefit to it without more tuning, yes, but it's playable

[slim grotto]

Come, sit down my child. Let me tell you a story.

[weary sail]

Fury isnt bad but it is nowhere near the meta

[restive peak]

Enh/DK/Rogue etc are all noteably stronger

[weary sail]

Also. Dk and rogue which are already meta, are getting buffs

[ionic plaza]

Fury nerfed to bottom. Barb nerfed to bottom. I think someone at blizzard has a problem with masculinity.

[manic mirage]

If you're not shooting the do the high end on keys or Mythic rating sure your Warrior will be fine but they definitely need some tuning improvements I've been meaning Warrior only since Wrath and let me tell you it's still fun as fuck to play

[nimble ermine]

xd???

[flat river]

Me to my grandkids when they ask "was warrior even ever good?"

[glad coyote]

its playable but when you have 17 other better options why pick a fury warrior

[normal bane]

oh no fury barely lost to 2 other incredibly op specs

pack it up

[weary sail]

Wont be fun sitting in Dornogal applying for groups for hours

[normal bane]

that also benefit from dh buff

[glad coyote]

you get a key yourself youn know

[flat river]

He can't time it he's a warrior

[restive peak]

That's what I said

[manic mirage]

No it won't but I don't really do that type of content where I need to sit and apply to groups if my guild is running stuff I just run with them but I'm not trying to push high-end content either so that's never been issue for me but for players that want to do that it is absolutely not going to be fun

[normal bane]

there are plenty of pictures to try to meme fury in keys, but thats not 1 of them lol. Barely losing to two of the top m+ specs that also benefit from dh buff when warrior doesn't

[velvet obsidian]

Surely my key won't be GB this week

[restive peak]

If he's doing 5s and running his own key who cares, but if you have any aspirations to climb you probably don't want to bother w war at this point

[flat river]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1292050802621419551/Blizzard_deciding_wether_to_nerf_fury_or_not.gif

[summer crater]

It's not as bad as arms, look at it that way

[weary sail]

Lincc spitting fax and it hurts

[summer crater]

For mythic+

[short cobalt]

I know its early but is there any channel with new specs to try with the patch today?

[grave lantern]

Do we have sims for dracthyr mastery racial? Its not on bloodmallet

[cosmic lance]

You will have a harder time getting into 10s and a much harder time if you continue to try get into 11/12 and beyond keys

[velvet obsidian]

Fury. Try playing fury.

[knotty lotus]

it's fine, the overall nerf and buff methodology doesn't make sense when you see 8% FDK buff and 11% arcane mage buff

[weary sail]

“Ya but fury is good on mythic ansurek so get fk fury warriors” - Blizz

[summer crater]

Either the data they base these things on is useless, or they want certain metas

[restive peak]

The funny part is between gear, these buffs, and the ramping 2.25% dmg...the ansurek adds will be irrelevant in 2 weeks

[velvet obsidian]

Spread misinformation that fury is godly so we can get invites

[flat river]

They all play mage

[restive peak]

And then it's literally pointless to play warr

[flat river]

All blizz employees play mage

[weary sail]

You already see it in heroic logs

[restive peak]

Ofc, we tanked as soon as people started getting to 6 or 7/8, and everyone with a brain saw it coming

[weary sail]

Balancing fury warrior around 1 fight

[short cobalt]

I see Ret topping Ansurak now

in pugs at least

was fury every week before that

[short crypt]

fury was good before people had gear / tier pieces, and before 3 nerfs

[sullen dove]

[short crypt]

most of it was just padding on tombs dying instantly with our cds

[velvet obsidian]

S tier pad spec

[summer crater]

The gear/tier pieces alone without any nerfs was enough and I don't know why people pretend it wasn't

[weary sail]

actually deadlast on ST

[short cobalt]

going to miss bursting the double ciorruption mob before last boss in grim

[keen forum]

New patch notes:

[arctic copper]

Let's see raids kill ansurek roots or parasites without us!!!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/650190768614539284.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[dull compass]

Me sobbing while googling how to play DK

[warm crag]

you kinda just immune ansurek roots on mythic ye

[normal bane]

1 fight, sure

[flat river]

Just give us shout spec plz

[short crypt]

The aoe burst was very op tbh

Did it need 4 nerfs while still being absolute trash in st ? Maybe not despair

[summer crater]

🤦‍♂️

[flat river]

I don't mind burst nerf

First 1

[weary sail]

Ill check back with you in 2 weeks bud, lets see how warrior do then like you said

[flat river]

But why every patch note nerf