fury

[burnt kelp]

dk is a lot more fun than warrior

so is ret

[hollow elk]

🎯

[burnt kelp]

this is the bad end

[eternal sundial]

Baseg

[graceful ruin]

ok this is a bit crazy

[south kayak]

He’s got the spirit but he’s doing it all wrong

[graceful ruin]

ret only fun because its strong rn ngl

[south kayak]

Ret is so boring

[lethal dew]

i'd sign this one

[south kayak]

I stopped playing it as soon as I hit 80

[paper aurora]

Loool how dare u say such things in the fury warrior turrets page?

[low folio]

frosts current build is the lesser of the builds for frost in terms of enjoyability. breath just shouldnt exist

[paper aurora]

Prob with DK is they r even SLOWER than warr rofl mobility wise

Probably too late to rework it now

[eager thorn]

Warrior best class cos nobody else can leap and charge

[south kayak]

Are you insinuating that warriors we slow

Are

Lol

They’re one of the most mobile
Specs

[eager thorn]

Mentally not physically

[steel shard]

but guys

[gaunt moat]

[steel shard]

the dk discord ppl said dk has 0 utility

so they need a dps buff

[south kayak]

Dk discord is full of idiots

[low folio]

instant brez and grip is pretty useful

[steel shard]

no

0 utility

amz

bad

[graceful ruin]

also dying as a dk is like actually impossible lmao

[low folio]

now slappy hands is definitely a hazard to the group in some fights

pos dks using slappy hands on mistcaller

[burnt kelp]

the thing with dk is

they are a fucking tank class now

when you got a dps dk in your key as a healer

you just have 1 less person to heal

[coarse moon]

What does slappyhands do that messes with the group?

[burnt kelp]

cuz they take no damage

[radiant plank]

slappyhands on queen

[low folio]

it can grip the little vulpera thing that freezes people

[radiant plank]

slappy hands on arakara first boss

[graceful ruin]

AMS is the stupidest shit in the game man

[radiant plank]

horror

[low folio]

in mists

[coarse moon]

Ohhh slappyhands basically grips everything in?

[low folio]

anything in range in combat

[coarse moon]

Oh lmao

[burnt kelp]

its a great spell

[coarse moon]

Didn't know dks can grief 😂

[low folio]

i still remember having a full melee team in a pug and that slappy hands froze everybody

[burnt kelp]

since blood dk is so shit this season dps dk is the best way to pack mobs

[steel shard]

btw guys

[low folio]

blood isnt that bad

[steel shard]

you know that dk just passivly has 20% more stam and 18% perma magic DR

[gaunt moat]

It gets funnier everytime i read it

[steel shard]

and 10% phys DR

[burnt kelp]

Idk bdk feels like its the worst tank in the game to me

[low folio]

i dont see it

[burnt kelp]

they just fall over at random times

[radiant plank]

skill issued

[burnt kelp]

prot paladin was the worst one

then they got buffed

[radiant plank]

prot pala silly good after reset

[low folio]

i think brew can fall over easier than bdk

[radiant plank]

gonna be the go to tank in m+ for pushing

prot warrior in bin

[low folio]

prot warrior didnt get nerfed right?

still gonna be a good spec

[gaunt moat]

Brew is so easy to tune i swear balance team is clueless

Make their report 85% instead of 80% gg wp

[radiant plank]

Brews issue is that if you make it good in m+ it will be broken in a raid setting - Yoda

so they have to tune brew for raid which means it will be not good for m+

[gaunt moat]

They went from 90% to 80 % there must be a middleground

[low folio]

with that reasoning, id just buff brew halfway through a season when raid isnt that important anymore

[slim grotto]

tell that to blood dk

here's an idea: who gives a flying fuck about RWF and just tune the game for the other 99.9% of your playerbase

[burnt kelp]

its not just the RWF

fury didn't get fucked cuz of the RWF, it got fucked cuz of the heroic raid week

[slim grotto]

because heroic raid week was used to farm for RWF

[clever path]

No

[burnt kelp]

I don't think it really matters for the RWF which spec farms the heroic raid the easiest

[chrome plover]

🤣

[plucky ice]

blizzards greatest minds thought its a good idea to balance based on irrelevant content lmaoo

laughs irl

[void valley]

Im still baffled at the full pages of changes everyone else gets and warriors is just "heres some rocks in your shoes and one of furies talents got a little better"

[chrome plover]

idk about everyone else

but yeah there is some questionable things going on lmao

[void valley]

Its like were being punished for shockwave being easier to get

[mossy fox]

join the protest in LFG if it makes you feel better

ill just wait until we win the tuning lottery

[hardy shore]

we only win the lottery for short time

[void valley]

I mean im gonna take my nerfs and still play fury because i hate everything else besides prot warrior

[fallen sedge]

I'll just finish pugging to 2500 then play factorio or level a shamn until the tuning gets better lol

[hardy shore]

they only want mages to be good

[void valley]

2h frost was fun as fuck in DFs3 and its the only other thing i cared to play

Arms still feels too clunky a lot of the time

[hardy shore]

blizzard employees are drinking a lot of breast milk in the office. No time to pay attention to the game

[chrome plover]

🏛️

[fallen sedge]

they grow weed in the office these days, the breast milk scandal is over /j /lh

[chrome plover]

i will enjoy my 10s on fury and my 10s on enhance

and maybe some keys on my other alts

[void valley]

I know they hate the 3 seconds of 9mil dps but its eased out by the 100k for the rest of the pull

[fallen sedge]

oh come one its not that bad

[hardy shore]

you think one who drinks breast milk in their 20s would stop just because it got some press. They'll find a way

[fallen sedge]

I usually get about 4m when I glance during pulls in keys

[fallen sedge]

i doubt microsoft HR fucks around with that kinda stuff

[steel shard]

i need my protein sorry

[hardy shore]

what microsoft HR have to do with blizz??

[fallen sedge]

Microsoft owns blizzard

[hardy shore]

no way

[fallen sedge]

as far as I know

[void valley]

I did somehow got close to top dps on sikran and nexus the other day in a heroic pug which felt good

But i think everyone else was just morons

[hardy shore]

Microsoft HR is supplying it

[plucky ice]

others must've sucked

big time

[errant vessel]

they were

[void valley]

Like theres no sane way i shouldve beat the arcane mage 2 ilvl below me

I think it was like ass and ret that beat me for both

[plucky ice]

bro was watching Netflix and playing with steering wheel

pedals for dps button

[void valley]

I mean arcanes what 2 buttons and cd timing?

[fallen sedge]

tbf its not like fury has many buttons

[errant vessel]

over 50% of the dps specs beat fury max parse with a 95 parse

to put in perspective

[void valley]

Yeah

[fallen sedge]

I have more gear than our enh shammy and my single target sims are lower than their real dps, which is funny cuz this person is like 5 ilvl below me and very new to shaman

🥲 just gotta zug zug even harder

[void valley]

I was showing my guilds warlock how much we truck on ansurek and fall off a cliff on sik/nexus and he was baffled

[fallen sedge]

arent warlocks poo rn too

[void valley]

Yeah but its consistent poo

We have firm shits and explosive diarrhea

[plucky ice]

better than fury lmao

[teal pine]

Affliction cranks m+

[plucky ice]

also they always get a raid spot, doesn't matter how bad

[void valley]

Tbf one warrior basically always gets a spot

To buff the enhance

[fallen sedge]

they do? every affli I pugged in m+ dealt 800k overall max so far

[native wadi]

And the fdk

They do ok deffo doesnt crank

Lock are in a horrible state rn

[void valley]

Frost is like if fury had higher lows and lower highs

But the lows are so much higher you can barely tell

[native wadi]

You just have to go ovi nax boss dmg

And see why fdk is viable and fury is just for quern

Queen

And for ovi if you dont have enough fdk

Hahahaha

[void valley]

Fury pumps ovi still

They just dont have limb

[native wadi]

Pumps adds*

Which was fine

[void valley]

Adds are part of the encounter

[teal pine]

On my dk I haven’t been gapped as hard by any class as this one aff lock I played with

[native wadi]

But now with more gear and adds nerfed

Fury is useless

[teal pine]

I don’t believe any warlock doomer

[native wadi]

You dont need em anyone can do dmg in afds

Adds

Dh moonkins fdk

More than enough

[void valley]

True

The gap on ansurek is so funny to me though

[native wadi]

Queen will still be carried by fury

[void valley]

Almost 100k more than the next class

[native wadi]

I hope

[native wadi]

Fdk will own queen from wed as well tho

Same problem our burst will be useless in 2 weeks

With 9% buff and 632 iñvl average

Drama

[void valley]

Arms rash is also nice

When 60% of the fight is execute the class is good

[native wadi]

Hahahahaaha

True

I dont fully like arms this exp

[iron portal]

Poor guy

[void valley]

Also court with sweeping

[native wadi]

Cringe skullsplitter

And execute spam

Feels horrible to play

Im absolutely dooming

[fallen sedge]

I have only done queen on norm, why is fury busted on her?

[void valley]

Arms has always felt so clunky

[native wadi]

Bcs you need to clean many waves pf adds

Fast as fuck

[void valley]

Condemn was the only savior that made me like it

[native wadi]

And you padd faster

I did not dislike arms end of DF

It needed small adjustments

[fallen sedge]

oh, there werent many adds on normal tbh

[native wadi]

Now they destroyed it

Yeah in mm in between webs and last phase adds

You boast

Blast

[void valley]

The s3 set felt really fun

[native wadi]

Also in the platform two big waves

Yeah

It just feels like no one check very basic problems we have

It felt like that in df and it feels like that even more

Feels like we are getting nerf because we are op in m0

And that they dont check progress

Dunno

Very disappointed

[plucky ice]

big burst bad

[native wadi]

Sorry to doom this much needed to cry in some warrior shoulder

[void valley]

This is a safe space for warrior tears

[fallen sedge]

zug zug in peace

[void valley]

Luckily prot is fun as fuck so if it gets too unbearable theres always that

[plucky ice]

real professional devs couldn't see this situation beforehand, give many big aoe buttons ??? wat happen

[fallen sedge]

people probably saw it, in my experience with corporate its usually one person with authority that keeps overriding advice

[void valley]

Colossus can fucking truck M+ sometimes

This was like a 5 mist but still

[fallen sedge]

and the person who cared just got tired and internally went "ok lets do it your fuckin way and see that its a bad idea you [expletive]"

[plucky ice]

yep

[placid lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/stab-future-gif-12598389

[smoky sigil]

dude, frost dk was down bad

good thing they got buffed

we wouldnt want to see a warrior on the dps meters

[steep pecan]

I have this weapon in MH. With 5th Spark tomorrow. Can I craft a 2nd one for my Offhand, It says Unique -Equipped, does that only mean the embellishment ?

[eager thorn]

it does mean the embellishment but you also prob shouldn't craft a 2nd wep

[simple mountain]

With changes tomorrow, AM fury will do way more boss dmg, right?

at the cost of burst to adds

[gleaming siren]

More than before, not more than RA

[merry jetty]

Thankfully my dk is 625 and can finally stsrt doing 14 while my 630 war is wIaiting in que for 10s

Really needed the buff so i can play my alt

[warm crag]

Yes the unique equipped part specifically only is towards the embellishment

You can craft a second 2h and wear it no problem

[inner shadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/diKs2uJTR2jxcUQQXJUHo2
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vFpb1h3FtvxieUsJie7RPS
why does it keep switching to head ring trink? which do i go for first? hm

[wide totem]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/expected-class-tuning-changes-with-patch-11-0-5-class-writer-opinions-348659?page=2#comments

Wtf is this, it has to be a joke right guys? They're not really buffing the S tier classes? Right?

[clever belfry]

maybe u need to blast more burst

[inner shadow]

5 targets cap

this shit rded ngl

[hollow lance]

how hard i need to press rampage to offset the nerf now? should I hit gym?

[inner shadow]

XD

[clever belfry]

this has to be the worst way to circumvent the filter my guy

[teal pine]

Should add two letters to your name

[molten wing]

reightded ?

[inner shadow]

it is what it is

bettewr?

[molten wing]

just use a cyrilic e

[eager thorn]

or dont try to bypass a filter thatst here for a reason prob

[molten wing]

[clever belfry]

maybe get more dimensions to your vocab?

[inner shadow]

FREEDOM OF SPEECH 🦅

holy shit the only time I USE IT

[steep pecan]

@warm crag @eager thorn ty.

[errant vessel]

surely

[eager thorn]

np

[gleaming siren]

Yes Freedom of speech is so applicable in an international discord server where no state is threatening to discriminate against you based on what you're saying

Go off

[inner shadow]

freepalestine

[hidden kite]

Fury is trash now?

[clever belfry]

yes time to explode

[eternal canopy]

frost is the best warrior spec

[warm crag]

delete your warrior immediately

[untold yacht]

Should I Keep playing this class?

[eternal canopy]

yes

just spec frost

[teal pine]

Do you mythic raid

[untold yacht]

I HC raid

[eternal canopy]

frost angle for sure

[merry raft]

wtf do i take

[untold yacht]

Can I arcane or warrior to dumb for that

[clever belfry]

depends on what u got 🤷‍♂️

you can /simc powerful tool

[eternal canopy]

def not the 2 hander, frost doesnt use those

[teal pine]

Is that last weeks vault

[steep pecan]

The one that vendors for the most. Probably the two hander.

[merry raft]

Yea I just loaded up wow lol

[eager thorn]

probj ust take skarm shard

[eternal canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/lefthanded-grumpycat-gif-22702547

[merry raft]

i have emitter and kara trinket from last vault

[eager thorn]

so take the wep/helm

[merry raft]

prob take wep

[sudden tusk]

Finally got the mark of khadros on my DK

im fucking free

[eager thorn]

big

[simple fern]

shard i guess if you dont have it myth tracked yet

[simple fern]

what is DK ?

😂

[cyan turtle]

the beter warrior

[sudden tusk]

Warrior but better

[simple fern]

yea.. it's crazy

[keen pelican]

Ok thanks mate so if I have the rage in big cd window RAMP CB RAMP CB does that apply to aoe and st please? Ty ♥️👍

[obtuse palm]

I appreciate you wanting to improve but Blizzard doesn't

We're not meant to be able to compete fairly sorry

[obtuse palm]

Also yes

[errant vessel]

pretty sure BB wins on AOE over ramp

[sudden tusk]

the thing thats just insane though

[errant vessel]

not sure if there's a diff on target count though

[sudden tusk]

is Frost DK has the SAME shit we do. literally single target translates to AoE from Oblit cleaves outside of Breath

and they are actually good with that in mind but hard 5 target capped meat cleaver cant be more then 55%

[clever frost]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-6-348646 what is causing fury to be below arms in overall dam?

would think that would be reversed Surely

[smoky vale]

the reason is that rashanan logs are not including add damage

[hardy cargo]

^

Which changes with this upcoming partition

[chrome plover]

back to pad town

[peak anchor]

guys, any1 knows which wrists emblishment is better? wirthing armor binding or duskthread linking? have ascension on wep

[sudden thicket]

Crazy it was ever excluded considering you can do degenerate spawns/pad on the other bosses. So dumb

[river viper]

It's a good thing since blizzard seems to look at wcl when it comes to balance so they see loads of pad damage then nerf a class and make it shit in M+

[hardy cargo]

Armor banding prolly, depends on what you are crafting for

[gleaming siren]

Aren't they just removing it from All-Stars so it won't show up in all bosses anyway

[clever frost]

and only 34 arms in nax? so they wouldnt count maybe

[hardy cargo]

No clue last I heard was just they were adding adds back, I stopped caring after hearing that

[chrome plover]

writhing if you have ascendance

[wheat path]

I remember being called pad pilled in this discord for going fury in some S3 DF bosses

[gleaming siren]

I can reliably tell you nobody at Blizzard is looking at anything to balance right now

[wheat path]

How things change

[smoky vale]

what is nax

[gleaming siren]

The only logical explanation for what is currently going on at Blizzard is that every class dev does whatever the fuck they want

Or get told to do

[chrome plover]

fury owns on queen/ovinax/rashanan and ovinax is the only boss of the three that has logs that show all damage

[mossy fox]

maybe killing rash adds fast so they dont annihilate your tank and raid was the right thing to do after all

[smoky vale]

yep

hi critcake

:3

[hardy cargo]

🧢

[gleaming siren]

But Crit you HAVE to kill them to parse (every add fight ever)

[smoky vale]

made my day

[gleaming siren]

Truly one of the most hinged WCL decisions

[chrome plover]

I play full single target so my funnelers can funnel

[gleaming siren]

Play full single target then complain adds dont die

Like some people here

[smoky vale]

on tuesday when i killed this boss

[gleaming siren]

You parse hungry

[smoky vale]

i had to play fury instead of arms for add damage

[gleaming siren]

Little freaks

[smoky vale]

it was so fucked up

[chrome plover]

ofc I will play aoe when the partition happens

but single target before

x d

[wheat path]

dont say that in #arms youll be called pad pilled brother

[smoky vale]

nah i had to kill rhe boss

[mossy fox]

i forgot to change away from ST pull after sikran once

[hardy cargo]

You swap to fury on rashnan to help your guild I swap to fury on sikran to hinder mine we are not the same

[mossy fox]

adds didnt die and we wiped

[smoky vale]

kek

classic

[clever frost]

what is removed from Queen? the webs in p1?

[smoky vale]

nothign is?

[hardy cargo]

Ya I don’t think any is

Only exclusions I know about are webs on first boss, adds on rashnan, and spikes on court

[chrome plover]

I just mean there's almost no logs

[clever frost]

ah ye

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/mualani-genshin-impact-genshin-cute-genshin-cute-gif-9213918674297824443

[chrome plover]

once a lot of guilds that public logs have killed queen (a long time i guessl mao)

fury will go up a bit

[smoky vale]

pc just killed queen

wes owned

[chrome plover]

8 logged kills

[smoky vale]

wtf

someone took wes' rank 1

[chrome plover]

5 fury warriors in top 10

[rancid night]

So guys stop crying about the patch notes it actually makes perfect sense! Dear papa blizzard is just doing best to balance the game!

[river viper]

For FDK & Shaman only 🙂

[eager thorn]

Fury bad in raid though

[granite trout]

Will the changes affect fury significantly for m+? I'm just getting into it and am doing fine for the most part now

[chrome plover]

not significantly

[smoky vale]

the oen thing it will impact

is you getting into groups

[chrome plover]

no it wont

[smoky vale]

because of perception

[ornate gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp0M11a5bPM I disliked his video

[pearl sequoia]

dood class good on ansurek! deserved!

[smoky vale]

i mean

it is broken

[chrome plover]

fury isnt one of the 2 specs that get more invites than the rest already

[rancid night]

Here there´s the proof ...

[chrome plover]

so it wont change in that sense

[ornate gust]

🤣

[smoky vale]

i just mean the perception will get worse

[chrome plover]

it wont make a difference

the "not meta dps spec" chunk is always kinda the same for invites

and it's every spec apart from 2-3

[wheat path]

Theres not a single fury or arms warrior in top 10 parses for each dungeon in the m+ pool

[granite trout]

ALright cool, thanks. Yeah I was thinking about perception with it as well

[river viper]

Pretty sure that screenshot is from week 1 and its also due to the raid design - balance for raid separately like they do for PVP so the nerfs based on raid data don't fuck up M+

[chrome plover]

isnt there basically only mages, dks and maybe one or two boomkins

[wheat path]

theres one fury warrior in top 94 on arakara

[smoky vale]

you forgot the demon

🐉

[wheat path]

Grim batol one in top 80

[chrome plover]

key parses are super weird too because if you filter by damage it obviously does key level first

so if a fury timed a 16 doing shit overall it would still be in the top 10

(for example)

[rancid night]

well, its not just look closer 😉

[chrome plover]

there's no way......

[river viper]

More recent data -> https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-6-348646

No warriors near the top

[chrome plover]

aint no way...

[inner shadow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4uXkLyoS6kThbHHpgPXSYj
how accurate is this?

[chrome plover]

it is perfectly accurate (to within 895 dps) for the specific setup of a dungeon slice sim

[inner shadow]

no i mean like how realistic

[desert storm]

imagine wowhead still shows us as S TIER

[inner shadow]

is thunderbolt actually top of meters?

[rancid night]

OK i get it now open the image and rotate it by 180° degree 😅

[inner shadow]

i wanted to sim for an exp of a m+ @chrome plover

[desert storm]

are we in april ? cuz it must be an april's fool jk

[river viper]

😆

got a feeling we are going to end up playing champions spear and I hate that even with a macro

[earnest meteor]

Warriors we hear your loud and clear .To compensate for the fury nerfs 5 weeks in a row we delete fury spec from the game.

[chrome plover]

I dont trust dungeon slice sims personally that much

[earnest meteor]

Kind regards. Jef the janitor warrior class lead developer

[chrome plover]

nah

[rancid night]

now when we know where the problem is the balance patch actually makes sense right? 😄

[rancid night]

yep, thane with spear and am lets go 🤮 or even worse Onslaught cause we need more shitty buttons 😄

[ornate gust]

wowhead should delete fury warrior guide from their website. OR redirect the visitors to fdk guide 😄

[inner shadow]

isnt it info by archimitros?

[earnest meteor]

Thane spear with updated icon into death knight character creation screen

[river viper]

change the icon = 10% increased damage

[earnest meteor]

change icon=bait people into picking it up

[river viper]

replace champions spear with conqueror’s banner a new BL for warriors

[worldly cave]

BL for tanker nice

just wish

[keen pelican]

in big cd window to sto capping rage is rampage-crushing blow-rampage the play aoe and st please? im mountain thane

[hollow leaf]

do I prio execute over rb without any stacks of slayer's dominance?

[gleaming siren]

Stop worrying about rage capping

[desert storm]

stop worrying about rotation

u will be last guy on meter anyways

[rancid night]

u play rampage cb when clap is on cd and ravager is up unhinged plays bb 4 you but the rotation in big cd is messy for thane so better not to zug zug die

[molten wing]

only if you press all the wrong buttons

[lyric furnace]

can you macro roar and odyns together?

[radiant plank]

no

[lyric furnace]

Reck and avatar tho?

[radiant plank]

sure but wouldnt recommend

[burnt kelp]

or if whoever you play with has hands

[molten wing]

i'm doing fairly fine as Thane in M+ rarely being the last one but being 630 helps probably

though i'm only interested in doing 9/10s

[tired brook]

yeah being 630 in 9-10s should lead to you being higher than others lul

[molten wing]

literally 0 reason to do more than a 10

other than inflatting your own ego or pushing to compete against others in a close circle

[burnt kelp]

numbers go up, dopamine is acquired, we are at peace

[molten wing]

that's the way i see it

[burnt kelp]

exactly

[tired brook]

some people aren't satisfied with getting gear and never running hard content with good gear

[burnt kelp]

numbers must always go up

[tired brook]

inflating your ego =/= running high keys

[burnt kelp]

we shall never stop

[tired brook]

thats a fucking crazy take

[oblique trail]

Some people make their score their entire personality

[molten wing]

i didn't say that , i said either that OR competing against other people

[tired brook]

i suppose

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[molten wing]

the first thing i said is what Banezi said , there are certain personas that build their entire content/personality about their score

[mighty hull]

personal improvement? fun? challenge? playing the game?

[burnt kelp]

no

numbers go up

[tired brook]

🙉

[burnt kelp]

[molten wing]

fun was taken out of doing higher keys with challengers peril in my opinion

[low folio]

this definitely isnt a great M+ season but just happens they tried something new and missed the mark in many places

[molten wing]

yeah at least they shook things a bit

[tired brook]

imo keys felt way worse in beta than they do in live

sure it isnt the best season but i thought it was gonna be way worse

[low folio]

although i can blame them for some stuff. like trying a new scaling for keys and then nerfing tanks and healers just before releasing

[heavy dock]

Who wouldve thought that giving double tyrannical forti to all mobs at over 12 would be a bad idea lol

[burnt kelp]

12 got nerfed

its not so bad now

[heavy dock]

Atleast they nerfed it by 10% now

[burnt kelp]

but yeah initial +12

[low folio]

i think they misunderstood the complaints people had for affixes a little bit when it comes to low vs high keys

[coral dock]

Ready for the only thing we excel at, burst aoe, to go down today boys?

[hushed ocean]

they nerf again our burst aoe, but i really hope they nerf our threat generation too.

[burnt kelp]

honestly I'm more excited about the enh shaman and fdk buffs

they'll push +17 keys soon

🙏

[barren ore]

the only thing to look forward to are the T2 transmog remakes 😂

[mossy fox]

guilty...

[hushed ocean]

imagine on Necrotic wake first pull, been 6m burst, DK and Ret 7/8m, and who's generating more threat than tank?

[oblique trail]

Thought higher of you Crit...

Higher than what your score is..

[burnt kelp]

friends come and go, rio is eternal

🫡

[obtuse palm]

It's a great M+ season, it's just the more we gear we get the more nerfs we get so never get stronger

[mossy fox]

my entire worth as a human is based on my io

[chrome plover]

it literally goes away every 4 months

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[mossy fox]

one day my io will get me to the point where i'll be considered more than just 0.25% of a revvez

[burnt kelp]

not ALL your worth, your position on the dps chart matters too

[trail bane]

Does it? i can clearly see that you were 1755 rating in SL season 3

[radiant plank]

I am thinking less of Crit since his silken court guide didnt include in thumbnail

[mossy fox]

no monk made me look 5% smaller on court

[glad coyote]

@mossy fox do you think warriors are in a good spot with todays patch notes compared to other classes?

[burnt kelp]

[mossy fox]

i guess less than 5% cause i was thane

[burnt kelp]

no monk = I miss the raid

[mossy fox]

we're amazing S++++ tier

[trail bane]

When not even Critcake is playing arms on a boss like Silken Court you know warriors are in a sad state

[mossy fox]

in another timeline anyway

[glad coyote]

we need to protest

[burnt kelp]

[chrome plover]

on my warrior alt maybe

[trail bane]

Maybe the warrior from Twisting Nether isnt you, just searched for Chawie on raider.io :D

[chrome plover]

that is me but i didnt play warrior in shadowlands season 3

[sour abyss]

I'm currently sitting out a 4 day time out on forum posting for making a thread asking the devs why they lied about their claimed fury single target buff when the results show net nothing 🙃

[smoky vale]

its not not a buff

it does what the post says

[clever path]

guys

wanna see something cool

[nimble ermine]

no

[smoky vale]

hi mel

[hushed ocean]

dick pics incoming !

[clever path]

[smoky vale]

:3

[trail bane]

The person at Blizzard making changes to warrior doesnt know what they are doing. Which is why they cant nerf fury burst aoe without stray nerfing arms and why they cant just get it over with by nerfing our burst aoe to smithereens and then buffing our single target to a point where its decent and make our aoe more sustain based.

[smoky vale]

yuck

[nimble ermine]

hello

[nimble ermine]

yes

we've known this

they dont have a warrior dev

it's a desk plant filling in

[barren ore]

no, it’s a fruit bowl picture

[trail bane]

i thought that its clearly the dk guy whos taking over warrior balance

[sour abyss]

It's a fdk that got add sharked in heroic week

[burnt kelp]

the dk guy is doing a great job

[trail bane]

"damn fury warriors eating up all the aoe dmg ill get rid of them so i can have it all for myself" - that person

[tired brook]

how to parse in raid 101

pretty smart lowkey

[fading sky]

dno man i enjoy higher keys later in the season once im decently geared, challanges are fun

that being said i still think there should be some kind of mount reward later on

for like lets say 15s

[eager thorn]

I mean theres the title

[chilly fractal]

The reward structure for M+ goes from 623 gear in vault to title

[chrome plover]

you get lightning on your armour set for 2500

[chilly fractal]

2500 isn’t even all 10s

[chrome plover]

nor is 623 gear in vault

[chilly fractal]

You can get that with never getting myth track gear in your vault

623 gear in vault = 10

You lost me

[chrome plover]

you can get 2500 with all 9s?

i didnt realise

[daring trout]

guys which talents you want to try for m+ after new patch? i rly think about this to avoid all nerfed spells 😄

[chrome plover]

i thought it was like half 9s half 10s

[sour abyss]

Nope. 2400

[earnest meteor]

is spec deleted yet ?

[chilly fractal]

Is it?

[earnest meteor]

[chilly fractal]

Hmm

[chrome plover]

then 2500 is higher than 623 gear, albeit only slightly

[coral dock]

Finally got the BIS mace from grim batol last night boys!

Except it was champion track and on my blood do

[nimble ermine]

ye you only need a few 10s for 2.5k

[chrome plover]

can just do 8 mists every week for full myth vault

[coral dock]

Dk*

[chrome plover]

(that's what i do every week on both characters)

[hardy bluff]

same

no reason to enter any other key

[nimble ermine]

idk how you can run so many mists

its piss easy yea

but i swear the dungeon is so fucking boring

[chilly fractal]

I’d rather do Dawnbreaker

[hardy bluff]

people can grief the other dungeons

rather not have that happen

[sour abyss]

Big bursting the first boss never gets old. Tred is a bit of a raid boss tho. Goes on forever

[chilly fractal]

People can grief any key

[chrome plover]

i just play my warrior to gear for raid atm, no dungeons at a 10 are exciting

[nimble ermine]

fair

[clever path]

how my rotation be looking like this season

[plucky ice]

mists last boss sucka ass sometimes you don't see poison pools

[clever path]

keeping it at 5 stacks

[eager thorn]

Ive started to dislike mists recently

[chrome plover]

yeah i had some fun invisible piss this week

[nimble ermine]

i think 1st boss is just shit design

[eager thorn]

Really enjoy nw though so im just ill

[chrome plover]

yeah ur ill

[red berry]

mists last boss sucks if you have ADHD and cant stop pressing W/A and jumping

which is the majority of warriors, so

[plucky ice]

doesn't fix invisible shit

[eager thorn]

Its just an ez dg with big packs to burst on

[clever path]

When should you be using Mad Queens mandate in your rotation?

[red berry]

it doesnt, no

[smoky vale]

on pull or after cds

[sour abyss]

It's not invisible, it's just green puddles under green swirls under white swirls

[chilly fractal]

And then there are the invisible ones

[clever path]

Does Avatar, help boost the damage?

[hardy bluff]

no

[eager thorn]

I’ve not seen any invis dmg on tred

[grim prism]

bros u mind if i stir the pot a bit

[eager thorn]

Yes

I will cry and possible complain

[clever path]

Thank you!

[earnest meteor]

another 11 sv bricked

[grim prism]

hehe

[eager thorn]

Crazy how even frost is below aug now

[plucky ice]

below support spec, literally to the dumpster

[golden hare]

waow...

[plucky ice]

[eager thorn]

I mean fury has been lowest st for like a month thats nothing new

[smoky vale]

support spec does infinite damagw

idk

[earnest meteor]

i bought 1 microsft share and i got insider info that fury rework is inc at the patch 13.0.5

[plucky ice]

maybe change fury to a zdps buff spec

[smoky vale]

wouldnt mind tbh

just playing another aug

[plucky ice]

3 diff shouts to buff ppl lmaoo

[steel zenith]

the fact that fdk takes 8% more makes me mad

[grim prism]

ok bros honestly i lied, that was ST dps

here's the almight overall, are u ready bros

hehe

[golden hare]

i don't get it

[chrome plover]

fury is just so bad on sikran it's not really a fair ST fight

[golden hare]

what are you trying to say

[chrome plover]

look at kyveza and you'll see boomy/havoc/warlock/sub all lower

[steel zenith]

yellow parse with 1M dps kek

[chrome plover]

maybe even shadow priest

[errant vessel]

fury bad

[grim prism]

let's become brothers in arms

[chrome plover]

everyone just grabs the graph that fits their agenda and posts it with a 'hehe fury bad'

[golden hare]

i'll pass

[grim prism]

overcome your anger issues

[chrome plover]

it's not good data

[grim prism]

that is one for one what i'm currently doing

[river reef]

👀

[steel zenith]

is birthday coming tomorrow ?

[chrome plover]

never fails to be fair

[golden hare]

mods eliminate the spy

[chrome plover]

all power to you

[golden hare]

now

[chrome plover]

happy birthday

[steel zenith]

lol

[chrome plover]

where do you live

if it's in europe

[grim prism]

tomorrow = EU

[chrome plover]

then yes the anniversary event starts tomorrow

[river reef]

behave erga im just lurking

[steel zenith]

Oh there are us ppl here nvm

ty

[grim prism]

warrior's 20th nerf anniversary is still tomorrow for EU

[chrome plover]

i am eu

[oblique trail]

What they're trying to say is Fury bad!!!

Hate Fury!!

[chrome plover]

tbh NA have a 10 billion hour maintenance today so it might be tomorrow for them too

[oblique trail]

Die Fury die!!

[oblique trail]

If Fury dies, then I can go play the better and more fun spec, Arms

[smoky vale]

real

[nimble ermine]

i fucking hate furious waryor

[plucky ice]

if it dies it dies

[golden hare]

you're way too real for saying this

[steel zenith]

dont think it will die

just lets see

[north geyser]

best warrior spec is gearing up your frost dk alt

[grim prism]

now that's what i'm saying

but he passed

foolishness

[mossy fox]

🧢

[oblique trail]

You know it's true, time to stop the facade

[steel zenith]

i'll up it just in case

[native wadi]

We love arms but its even worse than fury rn

Extreme clunkyness I feel like my tairen is on a wheelchair

Everytime I play it

[gloomy creek]

is the new fury patch good or bad again?

[eager thorn]

I saw my first arms warrior in lfg earlier today

[native wadi]

Shit

[frank dawn]

Arms bad

[native wadi]

I want arms to be gone and redone

[heavy dock]

Beta arms only one two hander

Chad fury double two hander

[eager thorn]

Legit the only reason i chose to play fury when starting retail

Friend said i could have 2 big swords and i was like yep

[native wadi]

Probably blizz devs got abused by usual 2H 2hander and decided it will never be viable

Femboys cuks

[gloomy creek]

👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😂😂😂

[livid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-johnson-noodles-gif-25332413

the mentioned 2 2h

[shut onyx]

One day SMF will rise and you all will regret your words and deeds

[verbal rivet]

Mods ban him

[eager thorn]

2 thunderfurys will make it fine

[edgy oasis]

curious, when does thane beat slayer in keys? 11+ ??

[chrome plover]

i do more as thane in 10s on average i'd say

[turbid bay]

earlier

[edgy oasis]

ok 🙂

[eager thorn]

[hardy cargo]

I quite enjoy slayer in city of threads, specifically for 3rd boss and just slamming his ass with ST

[eager thorn]

You really can just play what you prefer

Slayer or thane

[edgy oasis]

i was thinking City feels more Arms > Fury slayer > Fury Thane. Going to take Thane into Dawn 11.

[eager thorn]

I’m excited for am thane in db

[hardy cargo]

I just play slayer fury in COT bc that 3rd boss is kinda a pain point and since boss takes extra physical damage slayer just deletes it

[edgy oasis]

AM thane is the build yeah? increase Ravenger?

[crisp prism]

yo guys i think i can still kill ansureks webs after nerfs

frost dk should get another 8% overall

[eager thorn]

Not sure if buff is live yet for am

[livid marsh]

should be live on na

[eager thorn]

I just think its gonna be nice having cds up more often cos of how the dg plays

[restive granite]

how shit is warrior

any US boys playing?

[smoky vale]

nah in class

[restive granite]

skip class

[plucky ice]

worse than last week

[smoky vale]

then we have maintenance for the day

[restive granite]

thats what i did and look at me now

[plucky ice]

it's not looking good brev

[crisp prism]

i geared a frost dk and hated every second of it

[restive granite]

i went for ret

[crisp prism]

good call

frost dk makes me wanna sleep

[restive granite]

i love the 30 second cds xD

[eager thorn]

I rerolled into fury

[molten wing]

Ret is the true warrior you even have to use a swing timer to play correctly

[restive granite]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-23464742

[crisp prism]

thats actually sad 🚬

[eager thorn]

Well i didn’t reroll at all cos i main fury

[crisp prism]

thats even sadder 🚬

[eager thorn]

But just staying fury cos spec fun

[crisp prism]

i'm also staying till i rage quit the game

i have a geared frost dk which i get pressured to play from premades

which i hate

[livid marsh]

fury is fun, its not fun not being able to play because your class is regarded as dogwater

[eager thorn]

I’m just playing other stuff and logging for raid/vault till stuff gets sorted out

[eager thorn]

Ye p much

[restive granite]

UH is pretty good

[buoyant salmon]

what

lol

[crisp prism]

imma actually try that

[livid marsh]

pretty much same, i just log in for the hc raid and then log off, dont bother with m+ at all anymore

[buoyant salmon]

its like the 5th best dps spec

[turbid bay]

is frost really that boring with breath build

[buoyant salmon]

it owns

[buoyant salmon]

no

[crisp prism]

spam obliterate

[lunar wyvern]

As someone who's played fury for over a decade, you're gonna be waiting until season 2 for things to improve. Blizzard does not like us enough to do mid-season buffs. Mid -season nerfs tho ooooo

[buoyant salmon]

10.0.5 did not happen

real

[restive granite]

if youre playing with premades as he said and theyre pulling around you, pretty sure you can make it work way better than what stats show for the general pool

[eager thorn]

Ye I’m just doing 10s for vaults now

got all 11s, 0/100 for 12 invites and logged out

Just playing hardcore classic now

[buoyant salmon]

yes im aware agregate data for m+ is shit

[buoyant salmon]

yeah i mean why take anyone with no 12s done when u can wait for someone with even 1-2 12s done

the difference is pretty big

[eager thorn]

Ye i understand why i dont get taken

[crisp prism]

high damage output doesnt mean fun

[buoyant salmon]

not so much anymore but its unfortunate

[eager thorn]

Its just not a fun experience

But that’s how it is sometimes

[buoyant salmon]

im aware but i dont see why frost would make you wanna sleep

[crisp prism]

1 button spam spec

its really boring

[plucky ice]

fury outside of cds is rly boring too

[crisp prism]

only actual fun i have playing it is anti magic shell cheeses

[buoyant salmon]

i mean theres optimizations you can make

[crisp prism]

yes but extremely minimal

[turbid bay]

what spec is interesting outside of cds?

[buoyant salmon]

forcing bonegrinder during pillar being the most noticeable

[crisp prism]

at the end of the day you spam obliterate

[restive granite]

you playing obliteration or breath?

[crisp prism]

both

[restive granite]

breath is a minigame itself

or at least thats how i see it

[runic violet]

8 hour maintenance

if not extended*

[eager thorn]

I hate breath

[oblique trail]

It's really not trust me

[turbid bay]

isnt breath minigame kinda interesting seeing how much uptime you can keep on it

[eager thorn]

Always see dks pull extra packs w it

[crisp prism]

you just spam obliterate

[eager thorn]

Legit room temp iq

[crisp prism]

obliterate

[livid marsh]

obliterate is dope, having burst every 45seconds is very flexible in dungeons

[turbid bay]

was fun when i was maining fire seeing how many back to back combusts you can get

[buoyant salmon]

issue with breath is u can just get unlucky and have a 30 second breath as opposed to even mild rng and 40 seconds

[oblique trail]

I may not be the best FDK but Breath is very one-dimensional

[crisp prism]

literally

[buoyant salmon]

thats pillar of frost

[night relic]

breath is so hard!

[restive granite]

oh ij

ok*

[buoyant salmon]

it send long ass frontal

[crisp prism]

i even seen a guy playing that spec with 1 button macro

[eager thorn]

Is it

[crisp prism]

all offensive cds + obliterate binded to 1 button

[eager thorn]

Thought it was the big dragon flying over

[buoyant salmon]

that’s just super bad

[hardy cargo]

Last cot I played (I had aug) but I did just shy of 2m dps to that guy

[restive granite]

i just cannot play obliteration because of the sound effect of obliterate, sounds like someone throwing wet cheese into a wall

[buoyant salmon]

u can do that for any spec

[eager thorn]

Cos it always happens on double marauders on nw with the necromancer packs

[buoyant salmon]

frostwhelps aid

[night relic]

can do that with any class lol

whats ur point

[crisp prism]

tell me another class

[restive granite]

warrior

xD

[crisp prism]

how

[night relic]

ppl literally macro every cd together already

[eager thorn]

Oo ok

[stable frost]

I mean if you want to put all the CDs and....what, rampage? Into a macro

[restive granite]

reck+avatar macro into BS

[stable frost]

You're gonna look very regarded

[crisp prism]

they dont macro rampage bloodthirst raging blow and whirlwind

[turbid bay]

macro bloodthirst, raging blow and rampage

ez clap

[crisp prism]

into that single button

[buoyant salmon]

you cant macro everything together as frost though

thats just not how the spec works

[crisp prism]

yeah you have to manually press abom and that aoe spell i forgot the name

[eager thorn]

Howling blast

[hardy cargo]

Don’t you have to macro specific things on frost to make it work too?

[crisp prism]

nah not that

the one that near your character

[eager thorn]

Remorseless winter

[crisp prism]

yeah

[buoyant salmon]

4 pillar of frost binds yeah

[hardy cargo]

And then press the correct macro depending on the situation or something g

[restive granite]

honestly all specs are really fucking dumb now, theres no in depth to them. What makes me enjoy a class now is their non combat abilities, like fuck i love heroic leap and charge, best abilities in the game

[buoyant salmon]

u dont need to do that though its super small

[eager thorn]

I legit cant play any other class cos my brain is so hard wired to using them

[fervent warren]

Thank God they are buffing frost dks. I almost caught one in m+

[crisp prism]

but ngl frost dk hero talent animations are top tier

exterminate looks so good

[devout totem]

this + impending victory

[crisp prism]

riders looks so good

[devout totem]

and sr

[night relic]

u guys dont appreciate SR

[hardy cargo]

I just remember reading having multiple binds for pillar was the idea and I just threw my hands up xdd my fdk sitting at 580ilvl

[buoyant salmon]

the scythes are sick and riders is the best hero talent of any spec

[smoky vale]

why would you

[buoyant salmon]

design wise

[smoky vale]

when you have 20% stam and ams

[chilly fractal]

How many ilvls did you have on them? Like 15-20?

[hardy cargo]

Rider is indeed dope as shit, I like having 10s immunity to knock back pony

[restive granite]

farseer imo is the best designed hero talent in the game

shit feels good

[crisp prism]

i like the mini horseman npcs i summon

[eager thorn]

Ye spell reflect also very fun to use

[dry hawk]

Do we know if Thane buffs are staying

[crisp prism]

tbf after i see ams sr feels kinda inferior

[eager thorn]

Nothing changed in the recent post so id assume so

[restive granite]

what buffs

if AM and RA are both doing the same damage in a perfect play patchwerk simulation

[dry hawk]

The ones that were hot fixed that aren't in the patch

[restive granite]

why would you play AM when youre most likely going to fuck up and desync all your cds

[crisp prism]

prob am thane with ravager can be a thing

[chrome plover]

some keys might benefit am more

[crisp prism]

i dont wanna play am slayer tho bladestorm will desync so much

[restive granite]

i dont wanna play AM at all

[crisp prism]

i do

am is fun

zugzug more spin

[turbid bay]

holding bladestorm for any aoe fight is probs going to feel bad tho

[glad coyote]

i think higher m+ keys AM will be the play tbh

to have BS up for every pull

[turbid bay]

maybe like brood is the only fight

[inland nebula]

If AM is ever close it always feels better in keys. Especially with how short other class cds are

[crisp prism]

maybe there is a copium build waiting to be cooked

which is really good

🙏

but i have a fear that after roar nerfs we might be playing spear

[hazy cosmos]

no way we play spear

[turbid bay]

man spears aoe is dog

and cant sorta pre-pop before stuff is grouped

[glacial leaf]

We gonna play without OF and spear in AM build. it's what the video of critcake show 😦

[sick jungle]

can we finally be like ret pallies

cd every pack

🙏

[crisp prism]

my spear thinking was just an assumption but if crit is also showing that i'm actually afraid

[sleek badge]

Does ret beat fury in M+ ?

[crisp prism]

yes

[turbid bay]

yes

[oblique trail]

Generally yes

[plucky ice]

pink man strong

[turbid bay]

damage profile is just generally better

[sleek badge]

Then why there's the same number of warrior and ret in the top 100 ?

[crisp prism]

warrior is a popular class

[sleek badge]

Is it because ret player are big fuckin noobs ?

[oblique trail]

Ret is also very popular

[crisp prism]

class population difference

[oblique trail]

Typically the most popular spec actually

[south kayak]

Yeah ret is one of the most popular specs in WoW

[turbid bay]

yes one pretends they are playing a melee and the other unga bungas

[cosmic lance]

Class representation isn't always going to exactly reflect balance

[turbid bay]

its a good indication tho

its a trend people will naturally drift to the stronger classes to get into groups

at the end of the day it doesn't feel good to play a class that isnt wanted or strong

[plucky ice]

with rework in future I fking hope we get 3yds extra range, it's so cringe

[cosmic lance]

Yeah it's just that though - an indication

[oblique trail]

This will not happen 👍

[inland nebula]

Ret is the most fun it’s ever been imo

[crisp prism]

yeah lots of people say ret is really fun atm

[inland nebula]

I play only fury and Ret and 30 second cds is great

[sleek badge]

It's me or DKs have to press buttons faster than Furys ?

[plucky ice]

probably won't happen blizz hates us

[crisp prism]

dw guys even if we get a rework they will somehow make spear stay

and maybe even rebuild whole spec around spear

they loooove spear

[sick jungle]

isn't it like 4 buttons

[glacial leaf]

it's wierd because blibli buff OF, RA and BT and add Bladestorm in TWW. But nerf all mid saison... So we gonna play the same than DF but without Roar or onslaught and with desync of our CD.

[plucky ice]

wouldn't make any sense a 2h user has same melee range as rogue with short weapons

[sick jungle]

the melee ranged shit was wack

i get why other classes are upset about it, but thats just because the grass was actually greener on the other side

[spare hull]

Are there any ''working'' AM m+ builds?

[crisp prism]

crit had a video couple days ago with some potential builds

[glacial leaf]

at least, we will take frenzied enrage in AM build.

[crisp prism]

that has sims backing them up

[crisp prism]

i'm already taking that anyway

[sick jungle]

ty for reminding me to watch crits new vids

[inland nebula]

It is like 4 buttons but you actually have utility you can use

[sick jungle]

man

i have a love hate relationship with that word

at least warrs are taken in raid

[livid marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/utility-do-you-speak-it-gif-25156420

[sick jungle]

thats jokes

[trail bane]

This class is also getting taken in raid

[livid marsh]

time to reroll prot

[sick jungle]

i will say though, i have at least anecdotally seen more warrs taken to mythic prog than fdks

[weary sail]

Why bring Fury when you can bring DK that has better AoE, sustain, single target, grip, brez, tankier. AMZ, can ignore mechani…

[undone palm]

if u cant get groups as melee just give up and play evoker

[sick jungle]

at least when checking out CE guild's progression comps

[undone palm]

drip

[cosmic lance]

Slayer's damage profile works well in raid

[sick jungle]

it does

[undone palm]

https://tenor.com/view/im-a-beyblade-twirling-turning-around-dancing-break-dance-gif-14605948

[cosmic lance]

Logs look great when you get to steal all the pad

[turbid bay]

wasnt the case on rasha'nan

after patch tho

[glad coyote]

just do the protest in lfg

[sick jungle]

wait wtf crit's guild downed mythic court in 4 pulls?

[night relic]

no

[weary sail]

Thats true we can look cool standing in Dornogal while FDK Enhance Ret Rogue doing M+

[sick jungle]

oh, i guess his pull counter is for the night

[trail bane]

melee isnt the problem, being a non-dk is

[turbid bay]

melee is the meta

[odd star]

frost is hella clunky and hella boring

[sick jungle]

is frost clunky?

[torpid sand]

not at all

[sick jungle]

isn't it just press your macro, then oblit spam + whatever that other proc skill is

[timber bloom]

How much am I trolling by using this? 😄

[sick jungle]

felt fine to me

[torpid sand]

if anything, frost is easier than fury to play

[weary sail]

Fury is pretty good in M+, it is just worse than frost dk unholy dk assas rogue enhance arcane mage frost mage aug balance ret…

[odd star]

oops you got a mechanic byebye breath and byebye parse

[sick jungle]

personally wouldn't use that castsequence stuff

[inner zinc]

Is the diff between ascension+writhing vs double vers BSL big in raid and M+? I actually got the myth version of ulgrax mace w/ avoidance and im curious in case i get a myth wep in my vault

[hollow lance]

Reck and avater dont have to be in castsequence they are globals

[timber bloom]

gotcha thanks

[opaque cypress]

you should wait with Odyns fury until Odyns fury from Avatar runs out

[torpid sand]

what the fuck is this

[sick jungle]

just macro ava/reck/roar

keep BS/rav on a different button and use the macro that uses whichever you're specced into

[timber bloom]

I run Berserker's torment

[hollow lance]

iim using this, and following with bladestorm, i rip agro everytime 😄

[fading sky]

Bsl is so,hard to keep up

[torpid sand]

man

just 5 points

[fading sky]

Shit hurts

[turbid bay]

when can i buy a ai to play my rotation

[sick jungle]

ya just give tanks a second lol

[fading sky]

Just play thane

[weary sail]

have u tried letting the tank use a global before ripping aggro?

[sick jungle]

also it should be macro > ramp > BS

[timber bloom]

what problem homie

[glad coyote]

if its a druid tank you gotta give them like 10 minutes to get threat

[odd star]

i have a friend that always tells me to use one of them rotation helpers. his dps is abysmal no matter the spec he plays. now that hes playing ret his dps has more semblance of normal tho

[weary sail]

guess which specs Blizzard are buffing this patch

[inner zinc]

Fury ?

[hollow lance]

me waiting with my macro 1 second for tank

[fading sky]

The gcd is the charge

[sick jungle]

I'm pretty sure a tuning patch will come next week

[rugged moon]

does Spelunker's Waning Candle sim correctly? cos tooltip says about 2.5x the crit stat compared to ingame tooltip

[fading sky]

Nah fam

[turbid bay]

thats some cope lil bro

[coarse moon]

Don't give us hope

[keen hedge]

Depends on each person. Can have tank who holds aggro no matter what.. can have another and than you’re the “off tank” all the time.

[inland nebula]

With the 6th round of furry nerfs

[weary sail]

hey if you rip aggro, got melee, die, no CDs and hit like a wet noodle running back, all power to you

[turbid bay]

just pop enraged regen

[fading sky]

That is the worst feeling🤣

[turbid bay]

your the tank now

[sick jungle]

well, this isn't really a tuning patch more so a rework patch

[hollow lance]

im returning with sense of accomplishment

[fading sky]

That is true

[turbid bay]

it was a patch to really solidify which classes are on top

[sick jungle]

lets just hope that blizz isn't fully incompetent and does some sort of tuning

[torpid sand]

[sick jungle]

because a ~11% buff to arcane ST is just criminal

[weary sail]

rework fury when

[fading sky]

But arms getting nerfed coz of fury? Thane getting a great buff collosus getting almost nothing