fury

[acoustic yoke]

When mfer steal your orbs

[gaunt moat]

Tell them

[nimble ermine]

kings rest with both forti and tyran will be interesting

[acoustic yoke]

I tried

[nimble ermine]

not in a good way

[acoustic yoke]

But then they start panicking

[queen linden]

Hidden tech for the upcoming patch.

[gaunt moat]

I may remember SD in a bad way because i used to heal on the last rush between third and last boss

[acoustic yoke]

Yes but zombie raptor mount

[gaunt moat]

[oblique thistle]

cheat code

[gaunt moat]

5 BDK

[queen linden]

[nimble ermine]

dont care underrot mount clears

[gaunt moat]

They all take the hunter

[nimble ermine]

little gremlin

[runic cypress]

Darkheart Thicket
Wardens
The naga one from legion in azuna
Everbloom
Iron Horde Docks
Kings Rest
And the any other cata dungeon like the twilight Hammer one

[ashen socket]

The real tech

[acoustic yoke]

Wardens

[gaunt moat]

You don't like docks?

[acoustic yoke]

Ah yes

I like docks

[runic cypress]

No fuck docks

[queen linden]

You forgot about Throne of Tides.

[acoustic yoke]

When you did the hunter tech

[runic cypress]

Fuck anything from wod

[acoustic yoke]

It was ez as piss

[runic cypress]

Which one was it

[queen linden]

Exactly.

[acoustic yoke]

Df s3

Throne of the tides

[open prairie]

only good part about that

was reflecting crushing depths

[queen linden]

Cataclysm. One of those worst dungeons they've ever made.

[acoustic yoke]

The dogs tore me a new one more than enough times

[gaunt moat]

What's the wod train dungeon

[runic cypress]

Oh it's my last spot

Literally any cata dungeon

[oblique thistle]

grimrail depot

[acoustic yoke]

Ah yes

Grimrail

Showed why democracy was a bad idea for dungeon voting

[queen linden]

Auchindoun lol.

[gaunt moat]

I hope this dungeon never comes back for another reason tho i couldn't get a second 2 handers and did it like 50 times in a row

Grimrail

[runic cypress]

Oh wait put siege on niouzao temple on there

Fuck that long ass piece of shit

[acoustic yoke]

I think my grimrail experience was majorly dampened the first boss casually one shotting ur tank week 1

[gaunt moat]

I love that everhone agrees that shrine is one if not the worst one

[gaunt moat]

[acoustic yoke]

Well yes

Shrine bosses just all suck

[runic cypress]

tfw people just die to cannon boss in depot during timewalks

[oblique thistle]

all of the time

[runic cypress]

I hate wod timewalks

[acoustic yoke]

I like that timewalking will scale now to level

So you can suffer better in tbc timewalking dungeons

Hello any hellfire peninsula dungeon

[runic cypress]

I can't wait for people to die in stonecore time walking when the third boss puts on his damage reflect ability

[acoustic yoke]

It's a rite of passage tbf

Got to break yourself upon his body

[runic cypress]

I slightly remember the first boss in mana tombs does that too

But nobody ever dies there

Might just be spell reflect I dunno

[queen linden]

Bring back challenge modes

Way better than m+

[acoustic yoke]

I'll take DoS, Cathedral, Helya dungeon, and well of eternity for next season

[runic cypress]

If they would make it so challenge mode completion in pandaria classic are gonna be brought over to retail id consider playing pandaria classic

[gaunt moat]

De other side plz blizzard

I dunno why i love this dungeon

[runic cypress]

Well of eternity sucks ass

It's too much rp

[acoustic yoke]

But knowing blizz they will split halls of origination into 2 dungeons

[acoustic yoke]

It's like the least shit cata dungeon we have left

[queen linden]

Just do it anyway, they're fun

[acoustic yoke]

You want to run the Nexus?

[runic cypress]

No I don't think so

[acoustic yoke]

Or End Time?

[nimble ermine]

end time

[runic cypress]

I don't wanna do any cata dungeons

How bout that

[acoustic yoke]

Or Blackrock Caverns

[acoustic yoke]

There is no option like that. Please come again

[runic cypress]

There is always an option

[acoustic yoke]

Actually bring Blackrock caverns back

[nimble ermine]

bring a cata dungeon back and put gurthalak in the drop pool

thanks

[acoustic yoke]

I want to see Raz smash

[open prairie]

m+ occulus

[oblique thistle]

wait, I just thought... they're probably going to bring back stormstout brewery with cinderbrew meadery

[acoustic yoke]

I can only hope they go MoP over cata dungeons

And we get something chill like brewery

[runic cypress]

No brewery is to good

It gonna be siege or the one with the giant bug at the end

Whatever it's called

[acoustic yoke]

But we'll end up getting gate with 2nd last boss being complete aids to manage

[oblique thistle]

gate of the setting sun

[acoustic yoke]

Mog'shun Palace is not a bad shout either too

[runic cypress]

When was deadmines remade

[oblique thistle]

god imagine gate last boss on tyranical

absolute cancer

[oblique thistle]

cata

[cedar depot]

twas the night before target cap

[acoustic yoke]

Cata?

[oblique thistle]

and deadmines timewalking is now going to be a thing tomorrow

we might be deadmines M+

at some point

[runic cypress]

[acoustic yoke]

Revamped deadmines is like 6 bosses no?

[runic cypress]

I hate the revamped dead mines

[oblique thistle]

its 5

[acoustic yoke]

Ah

But also last boss is beyond a boss

It's RP incarnate masquerading as a boss

[oblique thistle]

yeah I mean

uldaman was 5 bosses too

i feel deadmines would prolly be a bit shorter

[acoustic yoke]

Idk the whole hallucinations thing

On last boss is kinda long

But also wouldn't be surprised if they changed the mechanics up

[oblique thistle]

they would have to revamp a lot of boss mechanics to make it better

[runic cypress]

Imagine
M+ strat full
M+ dire maul full
M+ brd full

[oblique thistle]

M+ brd timer literally 2 hours

how about M+ LBRS

that would be a fun one

oh you know what they could probably bring back MOP scarlet monestary to go with priory next season

with some new mechs

[grim prism]

yay more flavors of m+ to not get invited to bros

[verbal rivet]

That unsub button would look pretty hot if they brought back Siege of Niuzao Temple

[oblique thistle]

its ok, you will get shrine and you will enjoy it

[verbal rivet]

I’m hoping for a legion dungeon

I’m cool with literally any of them

[balmy cape]

So is fury dead do I even hop on my toon ?

[oblique thistle]

Fury is fine

[verbal rivet]

Nope. Go on the FDK instead. Pack it up

[normal bane]

Na fury is dead, go reroll and be brain dead in a different disc

[frosty orchid]

[balmy cape]

Alrighty

Thanks for advise

Gonna go be a healer so I can get in groups

Y’all have a great life

[verbal rivet]

Bet. Pop off

[covert blaze]

[verbal rivet]

(Who’s going to tell him all the healers are one Ara Kara run from being alcoholics?)

*non functional alcoholics

[oblique thistle]

not me

I need more healers queueing

[verbal rivet]

Good

Couldn’t pay me to heal rn

[oblique thistle]

my alt is a healer

its rough out there

[verbal rivet]

I’ve healed. Then I suddenly forgot how to heal and made it back to a DPS spec.

WW goes hard

[cedar depot]

how are they going to have fury bad at ST and also bad at 2 target cleave like bruh

[young swan]

u mean 5 target

right

[oblique thistle]

because we have a whole ass other spec that does good two target cleave prolly

[cedar depot]

not really, looking at silken court arms is lower middle tbh

[verbal rivet]

Less weapons = Less cool

[oblique thistle]

based

[verbal rivet]

Drip is the true endgame

[marble swift]

archimtiros not doing a class writer response for fury?

[oblique thistle]

two fyralath transmog > one fyralath transmog

[verbal rivet]

I am one fury nerf from only playing thane in raid

[oblique thistle]

do it now

no balls

[verbal rivet]

Need to get that still. I’ve been using my mage tower looks

[oblique thistle]

got mine in s4 DF

took 7 weeks

[verbal rivet]

Aight. That’s the motivation I needed

[cedar depot]

I'm about to play thane on m broodtwister so the adds dont 1 shot me

[oblique thistle]

honestly thane broodtwister might be a cook

[molten spire]

Our job is to spin on worms

not dps

[cedar depot]

saying adds dont live long enough is a conspiracy, they for sure live on m

[verbal rivet]

But the clappa

[molten spire]

no clappa

thats for real classes

[verbal rivet]

Many clappa

[eager thorn]

[oblique thistle]

[molten spire]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-you-pass-butter-welcome-to-the-club-gif-9281996

[eager thorn]

nah prob not

[molten spire]

We are this

[oblique thistle]

one can dream

[cedar depot]

why? adds live long enough? could probably run that extended ravager talent

[oblique thistle]

less that adds live long enough and more that slayer burst is a lot faster and helps deal with them significantly quicker

[opal sapphire]

thane for brood now? isnt it gonna be too "slow" compared to bladestorm?

[eager thorn]

you also lose relentless pursuit by going thane

so roots can be annoying to you

[molten spire]

Imo yeah

being very rational. If you go thane it would be better to just be a dk

[opal sapphire]

yea i mean, adds die fast

might aswel be dk

ah u beat me to it

[fierce acorn]

WE DOOMIN

RAIDIN THE DK FORUMS?

[molten spire]

to get laughed at?

[opal sapphire]

not gonna start a shabang here again, but man I dont get these changes while DK is doing what its doing

even pala got nerfed

think they are trying to shift the playerbase, right?

[molten spire]

Shift to what?

Everyone is already on it

[opal sapphire]

exactly !

[fierce acorn]

to press a bunch of gcds so i can slam 1 button

[opal sapphire]

tbf fury is a very popular spec

[oblique thistle]

its still very good in raid so it will stay that way even after nerfs I feel

[opal sapphire]

ye no its still viable for sure and has its uses

like killing small adds

[oblique thistle]

we love pad 🙂

[molten spire]

We have one job

and we are good at it

[opal sapphire]

im arcane main, and they are getting buffed. im baffled to say the least

[oblique thistle]

main characters of wow

[marble swift]

How is arcane getting such a giga buff

[oblique thistle]

its in the contract

[opal sapphire]

my exact question when i read it

i was like, im chilling??

[molten spire]

I wouldn't call this popular

[marble swift]

15% average buff for a top spec is unreal

[oblique thistle]

in raid definitely much more popular

[molten spire]

Yeah every raid kindof has 2 furies

[molten spire]

Because its basically a 2 button ads are gone

[opal sapphire]

idk where u got that data, but this is for the raid

[molten spire]

That's m+

[pliant jackal]

lol

[oblique thistle]

above data is M+

which makes sense

[opal sapphire]

ye would say so

[pliant jackal]

fury in m+ doesn't even feel great

[oblique thistle]

thane feels good in M+

[opal sapphire]

but doesnt prove much, fury is pretty dead for m+

[molten spire]

Thane is nice to play

[opal sapphire]

frost is giga in m+

frost is giga in raid

[molten spire]

thunder clap is nice

the slow is useful sometimes

Damage is not awful

[oblique thistle]

slightly better survivability too

[molten spire]

it's just that we bring nothing

[pliant jackal]

we are still beaten by ench,frost,pally

[opal sapphire]

thane is kinda nice ngl, but its "slow"

[pliant jackal]

for melees

[opal sapphire]

we bring nothing, and our dmg is low

makes no sense

to receive nerfs

the first few were justified

[molten spire]

we got nerfed because we were incredibly good at 1 thing

[opal sapphire]

killing the smallies

[molten spire]

On a raid with a fuckton of smallies

[opal sapphire]

maybe its because its controversial in the current day and age?

[molten spire]

that must die

[opal sapphire]

small people might have taken offense

[oblique thistle]

I mean the vast majority of the raid is basically designed around our exact burst profile

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t say we bring nothing

[opal sapphire]

still doesnt make sense to nerf it imo

[olive wraith]

We have one of the better aoe stops

[oblique thistle]

but I mean so many others bring aoe stops

[molten spire]

every class seemingly has one

[oblique thistle]

and stops aren't nearly as strong as they used to be

[olive wraith]

Our aoe stop is better than most

[molten spire]

And there's just one thing

[pliant jackal]

kicks are king

[molten spire]

Prot is really good

[pliant jackal]

stops aren't as good

[molten spire]

Like half the tanks are prot so no way we are getting into keys

[oblique thistle]

why bring fury when enh has a better kick and brings lust?

[olive wraith]

We also don’t really die

[molten spire]

But that's true for dk and pally

[olive wraith]

Are we talking title

[pliant jackal]

I thought the same until i played dk lol

[olive wraith]

Or just in general

[pliant jackal]

they need to nerf dk tankiness

its bs lol

[opal sapphire]

all of that is true, but it comes down to utility and group wide buffs. attackpower is nice, but so very few classes are pure phys damage now

[molten spire]

The raid buff is fine

On m+ we just lack a bit of damage

[pliant jackal]

we are an one trick pony that isn't allowed to do well lol

[olive wraith]

You don’t need perfect utility to clear up to 13s

[oblique thistle]

but in pugs it makes you less attractive

[opal sapphire]

no but meta is meta and people watch raider io scoreboard and go hm, fury is dogshit

never invite a fury

[pliant jackal]

fury is fine

[molten spire]

Would you invite a fury?

[olive wraith]

I’d invite fury over Hunter

[molten spire]

I wouldn't

[opal sapphire]

ofc i wouldnt

xd

[molten spire]

Over a mage

[pliant jackal]

if they have high io i would

[molten spire]

or a pally or a dk or an evoker

[opal sapphire]

not even

[oblique thistle]

basically run your own key or bust

[olive wraith]

Also depends on who’s in your list

[olive wraith]

This is mostly a dps thing

[opal sapphire]

i mean we all have solutions, personally i just tank all my 10ers and be done with it.

thats not what the talk is about imo

straying away a bit i feel

[pliant jackal]

i mean you literally have noxiv running 15s with slayer in m+

[molten spire]

it's a viable spec

[olive wraith]

Ya I asked if we are talking title

[opal sapphire]

yea, noxiv, with a group of highly skilled players dedicated to make it work

can you do that with pugs?

[molten spire]

it's just that on a list of pugs we are on the bottom

[pliant jackal]

but it feels like you are getting carried every key

when i play warrior in m+

[oblique thistle]

I am talking about pugs specifically but title is a different story that I'm not really in a position to discuss

[olive wraith]

I highly doubt we are bottom for pugs

[molten spire]

Yeah that's 0.001% of players

[oblique thistle]

Bottom idk, but certainly not attractive if you are trying to find a group that isn't your own key

[olive wraith]

Does sub even have representation about 12s

[pliant jackal]

we literally have m+ puggers here already with 3k

[molten spire]

this is the bottom of the list

arms

[opal sapphire]

I mean I can do 11s and prob 12s on my fury as well, but thats still not the talk 😄

[olive wraith]

What kind of data is that chart pulling

[opal sapphire]

a pug wouldnt care about that

because of meta

caused by sht balance

[olive wraith]

Pugs will be pugs regardless

[molten spire]

top runs which is the only thing that can be measured

[olive wraith]

You post a key and you have 20+ applied

[molten spire]

that's probably +13s I guess?

[lime plaza]

I rerolled my fury to prot and lvled a fdk rip bois

[opal sapphire]

rip

[molten spire]

I'm levelling an ele

[olive wraith]

Prot do be boss rn

[oblique thistle]

🪦

[molten spire]

See if I can bring the thunder

[lime plaza]

I just couldnt do it anymore blizz is nuts with the upcoming patch

Like whoever is writing those stories/tasks on warrior lost his mind

[opal sapphire]

ye its a bit crazy for sure

i geared my warr because we might need a warr in the guild soon

and we have enough mages

[cedar depot]

i say we revolt and all play thane st

[opal sapphire]

just play arms ST

but even that is gonna be like B tier at best

[cedar depot]

i would play arms if fury wasn't built around 0 crit so now i have no gear for arms

[opal sapphire]

data for sikran mythic

[feral ivy]

Or go on the blizz class forums and complain there WITHOUT going berserk. It’s the only way they listen tbh

[opal sapphire]

do they really

[oblique thistle]

well yeah our single target is shit but you gotta look at like the 6 other fights where we do well

[opal sapphire]

only fight we do A tier well is brood bro

everything else we are b - c tier

i just dont get the extra nerfs, is all

[hushed gust]

TBF, Sikran's not a real fair boss to look at for fury. from what i understand, it's got NO AoE, meaning it's gonna be dog-ass anyway.

[rich flame]

Blizzard either hates warriors with a passion or are just throwing darts at a board to see what they should change next

[verbal rivet]

I hate to say it. But FDK gaming just hits

[pliant jackal]

you guys think 614 is enough for 10s

[gloomy jetty]

to clear it, yes, to get invited no

[opal sapphire]

i got my fury guildie through a 10 in time with 605, just depends on ur group!

[verbal rivet]

If you have a group, maybe. Pugs, HELL no. I’m 620 and getting spam declined.

[hushed gust]

if you're running with gigasweats, yes. PUGing? no.

[buoyant salmon]

your own key? yeah of coruse

[verbal rivet]

Not even giga sweats, just not mouth breathers

[pliant jackal]

nah for inviting. they are alts tho

[buoyant salmon]

the fact that you mention 'tiers' for raid encounters proves you have 0 idea what youre talking about lol

[buoyant salmon]

youll struggle

might be possible though

[verbal rivet]

The only fight fury is hot mid in is Princess.

[hushed gust]

Brood and Ansurek are the only raid fights you should play fury in. anything else, Arms is generally better.

[verbal rivet]

The rest we are god tier add control or good to high tier

[opal sapphire]

interesting. what do I not have an idea about exactly?

[oak pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-crying-sad-gif-17901663

[burnt kelp]

is it joever for Odyn's fury

[north edge]

Imo nerfs were fair

We already were so shit we couldn’t go any lower

[buoyant salmon]

fury is good on every fight besides the 2 st fights

[north edge]

You can’t hurt what is already dead

[opal sapphire]

never said it was bad

[oblique raft]

we need more nerfs for fury

[oblique thistle]

buff mage again while we're at it

[burnt kelp]

and for every fury nerf, get an arms nerf for free

[north edge]

I recon they should remove whirlwind/tclap allowing us to hit multi targets

[verbal rivet]

Fury is good at jobs in fights, not dealing damage to the boss

[burnt kelp]

man I'd be pissed if I was an arms player

just getting a nerf every week cuz blizzard wants to nerf fury

[oblique thistle]

yeah arms did not deserve the stray it caught

[rich flame]

If fury was actually on the top of the charts I'd be okay with these nerfs but man, yet every other class that does better single target and consistent aoe are either getting buffed or unchanged

[oblique raft]

we can reroll to fdk

[verbal rivet]

Bc fury does damage too consistently was the issue

[north edge]

Your just griefing your team if you don’t reroll fdk

I actually feel bad when playing keys with my guild on my war

Like I feel I need to pay them at the end of every run

[hushed gust]

nah, they getting slammed too, i hear

[north edge]

Cus I’m doing as much dps as their alts

[verbal rivet]

The amount of uptime AMS has in Rider is actually wild to me

[odd star]

fury warrs are supposed to go berserk

[opal sapphire]

its good, but others are better and untouched. so what did I not have any idea about still?

[normal bane]

Tell me more about how others are better at qa adds

[verbal rivet]

The reason fury is good in raid. You’re lost bro. You don’t understand it.

[north edge]

Our FDK complained about being one shot by the NW cleave mob frontal the other day

It was a +13

He said he was fine eating it on +12

[odd star]

better to uninstall than to play that jank
i came back crawling to shitty warr just so i can have fun with this god forsaken wasteland of a game

[verbal rivet]

It’s scary on a 3 lmaoooo

[opal sapphire]

clearly i dont, and at this point its whatever

fury is good for killing smallies

enjoy your nerfs

🙂

[verbal rivet]

30M damage in 2 seconds, every 45 seconds hyper consistent is the issue.

[opal sapphire]

I know how fury works. But why is this considered broken

its legit their only thing

[north sky]

are we getting nerfed to the ground tmr?

[verbal rivet]

Bc no other spec can do that and it trivializes mechanics

[tardy bough]

can i ask dps related question here wrt fury warrior?

[verbal rivet]

2 seconds and 7 seconds is a massive difference

[north sky]

do yall hold cool downs in raid or do u bust whenever its up

[verbal rivet]

No good answer, it depends

[opal sapphire]

its a good point, but at the same time, its the ONLY thing fury does well

if you take that away, what do we have?

[hushed gust]

when you bust depends entirely on boss, but it's usually on-rip save for Bloodbound

[north sky]

do u at least save blade storm for all cool downs or bust whenever its up

[cedar depot]

is there a way we can access the sim for the patch tomorrow? LIke can we test our own?

[north sky]

it doesnt feel good to not bust on pull LOL

[verbal rivet]

So we should have gotten more comp buffs instead. Fury is in a bad spot design wise to function well.

[rich flame]

You can swap out fury for any other melee class and the adds will die a second later, the aoe damage means jack shit in raid when they average the lowest DPS overall to the boss. Theyve constantly nerfed the "niche" benefit of fury without compensation

[modest condor]

not yet, you'll have to wait until the patch goes live

[hushed gust]

long story short, if you're on the first group to go down in Bloodbound, just bust after you go down. it's a very small hold duration, tbh

[opal sapphire]

^^

[verbal rivet]

Depends on what content you’re doing, I’m assuming Raid. Certain fights you need to hold for adds. Some fights you’ll have some CDs back up for adds.

[opal sapphire]

so you agreee with me too in the end xd

this was my main complaint lol

[tardy bough]

i cant get my dps above 400k can someone help me with it pls

[buoyant salmon]

your point can be correct but you can come to it in a completely wrong way

[north sky]

download hekili

[buoyant salmon]

i dont think fury shouldve been nerfed and fdk/enhance shouldve gotten buffed

but you dismissing how good fury was in the raid is just weird

[opal sapphire]

i never did

[buoyant salmon]

yes you did

[molten spire]

Fury was amazing in raid pre nerfs

[opal sapphire]

when lol

[molten spire]

And now it's ok

[buoyant salmon]

even after the 2nd nerfs it was still good lol

[verbal rivet]

And pulling up a bad tier list to prove it was wild

[tardy bough]

i did, but dont know how to use it fully to improve rotation

[north sky]

is iot gonna be be okay tmr

[verbal rivet]

It will be good after these nerfs

[opal sapphire]

this last nerf was what all my talk so far has been about

[normal bane]

That’s a full on wrong take lmao

[opal sapphire]

i dont understand this last nerf with the current numbers

[north sky]

wait it tells u what spells to hit when

[oblique thistle]

yeah we'll be fine

[indigo arch]

Fury SHOULD melt in dam, it's either add utility or peerless dam.

[oblique thistle]

3-5% damage loss in multitarget/M+

[verbal rivet]

The parasites living an extra 5 seconds is a massive issue

[burnt kelp]

wait its that much?

[tardy bough]

yes but when i am in high tension situation i forget to look at it and my dps is fxed

[burnt kelp]

[random hill]

btw Protesters on LFG about the Wendesday nerf got silenced for 7 days (including me)

[verbal rivet]

Punch a dummy until you stop panicking over it,

[tardy bough]

one more thing i am very very noob in this game can i ask something

[north sky]

or put the hekili addon bars closer to ur character LOL

[molten spire]

lmao

[tardy bough]

do we just keep pressing rotation or wait for gcd

like 1.6 second wait

?

i feel like it wont matter much but theoratically it should

[verbal rivet]

We are fury. We mash keyboard for more damage

[oblique thistle]

just spam your next button

its what I do

[tardy bough]

okayy

[north sky]

hit your keys like its owes you money

[tardy bough]

😂😂😂

[burnt kelp]

[tardy bough]

im very upset honestly

[normal bane]

P3 spider damage mythic queen, remember guys any spec can do this! Fury isn’t special!

[molten spire]

Just press buttons

[verbal rivet]

If you don’t mash, it is a DPS loss

[tardy bough]

when i didnt get dps in fury i made shaman 80lvl and ilvl 542... i am getting 500k dps in shaman lol😂😂😂😂😂

[north sky]

fury = cheese ur DPS on adds

[opal sapphire]

ye better take it away from them so they have nothing else they are good at 🙃

[rich jasper]

guys does this image also give you crippling depression or is it just me

[teal pine]

that doesnt get taken away

[normal bane]

Only absolute fucking morons think p3 spiders is padding

[teal pine]

fury is still going to do that

[oblique thistle]

always play what you find more fun and you'll find a way to do more damage

[north sky]

frost dk has no zug zug virgin blue effects

[queen linden]

Ahh fuck, we're good at a certain part of a boss fight. Better target cap us.

[rich flame]

You ideally can rip raging blow > bloodthirst > raging blow > rampage and repeat

[tardy bough]

i find fury more fun but due to less dps i tried switching

[verbal rivet]

They kill people on heroic. Didn’t hold CDs on one of our prog pulls.

[buoyant salmon]

i mean blizzard just buffed deathbringer with essentially 0 compensation nerfs to frost

not sure why they decided to buff deathbringer but they did

[oblique thistle]

if you find it more fun I'd try to continue improving so you can keep playing what you enjoy 🙂

[normal bane]

I swear this chat is filled with lobotomites who look at a wcl stat page then bitch constantly

[opal sapphire]

bro they buffed arcane

[tardy bough]

yup

[north sky]

listen blizzard nerfs fury because they know we cant read

[opal sapphire]

as an arcane player, that just makes me angry

[queen linden]

Because they just have a dart board with every class on it.

[rich jasper]

werent FDKs basically the same dmg profile as Fury, it just took longer?

[tardy bough]

😂😂😂

[opal sapphire]

how fkn ignorant can u be

[tardy bough]

blizzard employs wives are fury warriors

[verbal rivet]

They also gutted the entire rotation. Please know what you’re talking about

[tardy bough]

they taking revenge on em

[oblique thistle]

LOL

[buoyant salmon]

they have 45 second and 2 minute cds

[rich jasper]

every class EXCEPT

[normal bane]

NOTHING IS THE SAME DAMAGE PROFILE AS FURY

[opal sapphire]

how so xd

[normal bane]

How do ppl not get that

[burnt kelp]

wait fdks are going to do 30% more dps than fury in m+ with those buffs and nerfs

[verbal rivet]

They removed buff double dipping.

[vivid moth]

Other have a dart board for nerfing fury

[tardy bough]

bro can you share me your keybind pls

[lusty jungle]

am I blind or did we just not make it on the list kek
https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-6-348646?utm_source=discord-webhook

[molten spire]

1 2 3 for your rotation

[opal sapphire]

yea, we knew that was gonna happen. how did it gutter rotation again?

[north sky]

make this macro

[molten spire]

Fdk is bad too

[rich jasper]

didnt they remove double dipping but gave them an option to either one or the other?

[queen linden]

Damn, red bar near the bottom? Better buff it.

[north sky]

DELETE THIS

[verbal rivet]

They’ve been playing around it since pre patch, now they can’t do that, and got new buffs to compensate. It’s effectively a rework

[burnt kelp]

man it's a good patch to play dk

[verbal rivet]

If you want to know more, go read the arcane discord.

[tardy bough]

this macro i have

[rich jasper]

WHAT

me no read mage

zug

[north sky]

no body make fun of my keybinds

im in 3rd grade

[verbal rivet]

Not you, the special one who’s talking about mage stuff and can’t stop eating crayons to complain.

[burnt kelp]

we got the same stormbolt bind

🫡

[north sky]

real know real

[opal sapphire]

do u play mage?

[ashen socket]

Charge not on 1 tf?

[verbal rivet]

Yea

Actually

[oblique thistle]

idk why but pummel on 4 makes my skin crawl

[rich jasper]

brother my pummel is on F7

[tardy bough]

my charge is also on q 123 is for rotation

[north sky]

fury players really dont know how to read

[oblique thistle]

may god have mercy on your soul

[burnt kelp]

pummel is important

[oblique thistle]

oh wait thats me

uh

[north sky]

you're lucky i have PUMMEL on bars

[oblique thistle]

hmm..

[tardy bough]

nice binds

[rich jasper]

idk I just REFLECT

fuck other dps

[north sky]

its a dps loss to pummel

[tardy bough]

whats arround battle shout?

[ashen socket]

That tells me your binds are worse

[verbal rivet]

Can only pummel during Bladestorm

[north sky]

FACTS

[rich jasper]

true

[tardy bough]

s3 and sH is what?

[verbal rivet]

The spell said so, can’t argue with that

[placid crane]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/mythic-nerub-ar-palace-dps-rankings-the-war-within-season-1-week-6-348646?utm_source=discord-webhook
fuck it we need more nerfs

[tardy bough]

if i can know😁

[north sky]

s3 is the blow laod macro i linked

sh is

[tardy bough]

ohh understood

[tardy bough]

this is cool .... will to survive is human racial right?

[verbal rivet]

Fury is 3/4 knowing when to use CDs. The rest is a cake.

[north sky]

yeah

[tardy bough]

i was using that for all wrong reasons lamao

[north sky]

it just breaks CC

[tardy bough]

one more thing my weakaura announces CC sometime

what is that?

i use Odyns fury but dont know if thats correct

[verbal rivet]

Probably trying to tell you to use Shockeave or Stormbolt

[tardy bough]

ohh okay

[verbal rivet]

There’s probs a cast going that you need to stop

Or it’s trying to CC you

[tardy bough]

shockwave and stormbolt are one man stun or AOE stun

[verbal rivet]

And telling you not to use CDs

[oblique thistle]

stormbolt 1 stun

shockwave aoe

[tardy bough]

this is the reason ... mostly cuz

[tardy bough]

nice

[rich jasper]

wow M+ thane feels so shit

idk why

[verbal rivet]

It’s hard to know exact without seeing the exact scenario it popped up in

[tardy bough]

ill tell you

[north sky]

I wish we got colossus

[proud leaf]

it feels bad to me with PE. FE is the only way to go imo

even tho i'm pretty sure it's a dps loss

[rich jasper]

idk when they annouced the tc activating cleave thing I was hyped

[tardy bough]

when we go to someones house in Dawn breaker right to defend them ... and there are sk many people to hit at that time it says CC

plus in city of threads near Big Stairs too many mobs are there it says CC there

[rich jasper]

but playing it feels super weird

[indigo hedge]

Can you heroic leap the last second of the final ara kara boss pulling you in?

[verbal rivet]

Yea

[turbid bay]

Yep

[indigo hedge]

It seems like it pulls you out of the air

[latent mason]

yeah, just leap when its at like 1.0-0.7 seconds

[north sky]

need fram perfect

[turbid bay]

You will notice she yanks you back then you leap

[rich jasper]

you gotta wait before the last "strong" pull

[verbal rivet]

I’ve been going at .8 and been vibing

[rich jasper]

after, rather

[north sky]

if u pop all defensives

[turbid bay]

Its like ansureks pull

[north sky]

u can maybe surivive

[verbal rivet]

I do that on prot sometimes

[north sky]

prot can

shieldwall that shit

[verbal rivet]

SR and IP does it most of the time

I’m scared to try it on high keys

[turbid bay]

Oof furys dmg to bosses in mythic doesnt look good this week

[north sky]

try it on someone elses key preferable a frost dk

[verbal rivet]

But I got my hero sac brood. So I can leave that place forever

[north sky]

im not replacing this

[verbal rivet]

I need roughly 48 GB+8 runs

That is all

[elder granite]

do roots count toward shard buff on anserek?

[waxen vale]

if you cut off enhance extra dps ahead of next highest and give it to us were still..bottom

xD

[north sky]

why is it so doomer in here

[waxen vale]

i mean literally thats why

[cedar depot]

probably because 4 nerfs in a row

[verbal rivet]

I’m mostly memeing it, but it doesn’t feel great not able to play the game

I’m almost at AotC in a AotC focused guild. So the season is close to done.

[burnt kelp]

at the rate things are going, prot paladin will soon deal the same single target damage as fury

[verbal rivet]

It’s already comparable and it’s scary

[buoyant salmon]

i mean fury holds cds for adds on 75% of the bosses

because they have the most efficient loss to do so

[buoyant salmon]

youre doing aotc lol youre always able to play the game

wdym

[verbal rivet]

I meant pushing keys

[orchid dagger]

Because our class is assfucked to shit and back

[waxen vale]

well said

[north sky]

how hard is it to switch to arms

[turbid bay]

I mean arcane and frost dk got buffs

[orchid dagger]

Arms is somehow worse

[turbid bay]

Uhh hello?

[verbal rivet]

Raid? Super fun time. M+? Pretty much unplayable without getting on a team. And most of those teams want you on FDK anyways

[orchid dagger]

Just go reroll

[north sky]

what someone just linked this

[waxen vale]

arms owns

[burnt kelp]

I wouldn't recommend going arms aside from pure ST bosses

and def not go arms to m+

[orchid dagger]

So you could play Arms, or you could play Pink Arms and not hate yourself

[turbid bay]

Sikran and kyvesa arms is stonks

[north sky]

so i should roll enhancement shamans is what u saying

[orchid dagger]

Storm Earth and Fire bro

The real SMF Thane

[turbid bay]

But ill be honest with the recent balance changes coming through i just cant understand it

Devs do weird things

[orchid dagger]

You are forgetting the first rule of Woyer: Fuck Brown Class

[north sky]

get this trending on twitter
"Blizzard hates brown people"

[verbal rivet]

Fury was good for a raid, back to the basement

[burnt kelp]

alright here's what you gotta do if you are tired of the brown class

[north sky]

nerf reverted in 3 days

[orchid dagger]

[burnt kelp]

you either reroll dk, shaman or wizards

night elf or dwarf ONLY

if we all reroll night elf dk

[verbal rivet]

Wizards?

[burnt kelp]

we might get dk and nelf racial nerfed at the same time

[turbid bay]

Mage always be brrring

[orchid dagger]

Night Elf FDK

[verbal rivet]

RIP Belf Racial

[burnt kelp]

yes, wizard, the blue boys who always have a spec top dps

[orchid dagger]

RIP Silence change

[north sky]

wait shamans do tops AND bring LUST?

[burnt kelp]

bringing lust isn't that big deal tbh

cuz i always have a healing sham

[verbal rivet]

Brez tho, goes hard

[burnt kelp]

but that's not the point, the point is

[verbal rivet]

I’m going to Dev Evoker. Actually a fun class

Nerf Nelfs

[burnt kelp]

we get night elves and dk nerfed

then we reroll dwarf enh shaman

and we get shaman and dwarves nerfed

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[indigo arch]

Don't forget dwarf ret paladins

And dwarf muti rogues

[verbal rivet]

How do you look at Stoneskin, then say War Stomp is a good racial

[indigo arch]

Warstomp is a pvp racial at best

[burnt kelp]

when dwarves and nelves are nerfed, taurens will be the best race

[indigo arch]

For druids to get clones off

[burnt kelp]

THEN WE GET TAURENS NERFED

after enh shaman, that's right

tauren rogue

after tauren rogue?

mecha gnome

[verbal rivet]

Why tho…they are only played for the cow pun names

[burnt kelp]

they got 2% crit damage, it's not insane and I don't really care about taurens

but if dwarves and nelves get nerfed

it will probably be the best race

or maybe mecha gnome

[orchid dagger]

Over Mechagnome and Human?

What the fuck are you smoking and why aren't you sharing

[verbal rivet]

Goblins are also up there

Extra movement go crazy

[orchid dagger]

I mean at that point Drac+Class

[burnt kelp]

2% crit damage + aoe stun > human racial even if it's pretty good

mecha gnome probably still better

[verbal rivet]

It’s nerfed super hard tho.

[burnt kelp]

but if you are willing to look a mecha gnome for their racial

then you are lost

[verbal rivet]

The cast is longer then the stun lmaoooo

[burnt kelp]

it doesnt' matter, it's to interrupt a cast

its not op but it's useful sometimes

[orchid dagger]

It's still fundamentally knockback immunity

Which is huge

[verbal rivet]

True. I just know how much my warlocks are upset rn at having to be Worgen for mobility reason.

[orchid dagger]

Well maybe if Warlocks weren't in wheelchairs they wouldn't need worgen or draenei

[burnt kelp]

why draenei

[verbal rivet]

True. There are some other issues

[orchid dagger]

HoT + Burning Rush

You can stay in it longer

[burnt kelp]

oo

I see

[buoyant salmon]

yeah i mean

warlocks never ever go dranei lol

or worgen

[burnt kelp]

if you want mobility that badly you probably should go goblin

[orchid dagger]

Or Drac

[verbal rivet]

Depends if the raid is outside or not

They will all be going Drac tho

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, Drac is just too good for a racial

Absolutely bonkers

[verbal rivet]

Probs getting nerfed again

Just bc of play rates

[tough summit]

How does Bloodthirst work with Anger Management build?

Wait for 5 stacks of Bloodcraze and use when nothing else is agailable? Use on cd? Something else?

[verbal rivet]

Anger management is just slam as much rage into rampage as possible

If there is a button that makes rage. You hit it

[gilded pawn]

prio is probably still going to be RB into BT and rampage when available

so BT is a lower prio filler

[olive wraith]

For slayer that’s right for thane isn’t bt higher

[tough summit]

So just, Rampage > Raging Blow x∞ > Bloodthirst? There's no real optimization?

[tacit hawk]

This was a 10 dawn, any pointers or not enough info? i'm 4p using Thane.

[gilded pawn]

i think bt does more damage in thane

but rb is still a higher prio because of what it buffs

[gilded pawn]

the minor optimizaton is to press BT>rb if you arent capping rb charges

[chilly fractal]

Spend all the rage you can

I think you may have heard spend a lot of rage

But spend all the rage you can

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-meat-all-the-bacon-and-eggs-parks-and-rec-gif-16875577

[tough summit]

Ok, Push red button do damage.

[thorny jewel]

Why are we getting nerfed again? I mean why the fuck are we getting nerfed again? I simply don't understand Blizzard.

[honest sundial]

cuz @honest sundial

[odd star]

Dont worry, 1 month before th etier is over we'll get a 3% aura buff.

tomorrow then:
we go slayer for the aoe fights in raid
arms for the st fights in raid
and whatever the fuck we want for m+ ?

aka AM thane

[thorny jewel]

I play all specs, but for most of Legion, Shadowlands, Dragonflight, arms has been better than fury (I can't remember how we were in BFA). This is the first xpack in a long time fury wasn't absolute garbage the first season. We've been decent, not fantastic, decent for the first time in a long time...

[odd star]

fury was better than arms for amidrassil

[buoyant salmon]

fury was good in vault wdym

[odd star]

im fine with arms being better with fury. i like both specs. i just want dps warrior to be healthily viable consistently. they have 2 specs

[ripe goblet]

also in Legion fury was insane during nighthold and antorus tf u smoking

[odd star]

make at least one of them good, rn both warr specs are sussy

[ripe goblet]

didn't someone here leak the reason behind the nerfs is that protection was doing too good?

cant find it tho maybe it was just a meme

[thorny jewel]

Fury was terrible first season of Legion. Got ok by Nighthold, and yeah, end of Antorus was good with the stacking execute.

[ripe goblet]

wym ok was really good with draught ouf souls

better than arms

[gilded pawn]

its a meme

[ripe goblet]

sadge

[gilded pawn]

prot doesnt have the slayer hero spec

thats what was nerfed

the roar nerf is inconsequential

[ripe goblet]

capping warbreaker isnt really affecting anything right

[buoyant salmon]

no

[ripe goblet]

at least for arms

[covert blaze]

you dont care about wb damage

you care about the debuff

[odd star]

remove powerful enrage to flatten our burst
and buff to overcompensate

[verbal dragon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1293082287906361384/1298067880939749426/image.png?ex=6718376b&is=6716e5eb&hm=71fb7112e604019e29f759b3ac2fac1aad627858a109c3d60e5e57a69b594e74&

Real

[sharp bear]

fury has been my favorite spec since WoD, Blizzard is really punching down with these continued nerfs.

someone at blizzard was definitely salty that warriors were out dps'ing them the first month

[odd star]

implying they actually play the game

[gritty sigil]

Why do ppl hold roar on H Rash? i dont understand the benefit especially if we cant add pad

[unreal pewter]

If you can't pad adds, why even bring warrior?

[willow cradle]

Because the lorggs you're looking at includes add damage for the rankings

[gaunt moat]

europe ppl thinking we're already nerfed refusing me

[whole rose]

i need someone to justify why the fuck blizz is buffing arcane and frost dk

what is their plan they know something we dont surely??

[sullen dove]

why the hell does it think a dark iron dwarf and an alliance evoker cant queue for heroic

saying we're a crossfacton group

when we're not

[gaunt moat]

that's for being a scalie furry wtv evoker

[upper axle]

Probaly to make a highlight of them

[gaunt moat]

because even if logs makes adds disappear they still gotta die

[unreal pewter]

Just wait, we're getting huge reworks, 20% aura buffs, best ST, cleave , burst AoE damage

[molten wing]

[unreal pewter]

so we can be nerfed into oblivion once more

[celest sierra]

so ghoiws fury lookin for tomorrow

[unreal pewter]

grim

[proper onyx]

f tier

[upper axle]

Blizz realy wants us warriors to rage irl

[whole rose]

im not that upset because at the end of the day still gonna play fury but its actually comical how bad the balance is as of now

[gritty sigil]

ah ty

[celest sierra]

is am gunna be the play or still RA

[molten wing]

gotta wait and see both have their uses

and there are like 3-4 potential builds

[whole rose]

yeah guys frost dk and arcane were struggling bad 😄

[sharp bear]

prob encounter specific

[proper onyx]

the cope is that we're less likely to die to spider aggro on m brood 🙃

[celest sierra]

windwalker feelin amazing ngl

[upper axle]

If i remember correctly, they havent touched fury mountain thane

[proper onyx]

other than thane still using roar and odyns, no

[unreal pewter]

well maybe that's the problem

they don't fucking touch warriors at all

[celest sierra]

spear feels so weak and bad

[molten wing]

spear slaps its just more prone to failure despite the changes to it

but you can probably get some cool burst with it

Critcake did a video with some potential builds in 11.0.5 which are running spear

[upper axle]

Roar and odyn is just too good than spear

[celest sierra]

yeh like even in St i find myself roaring and furying then spearing

[eternal sundial]

The spear build cranks on st

Like a lot

[north sky]

PSA AVOID PLAYERS FROM RAGNOROS SERVER

[gaunt moat]

sanguino aswell

[eternal sundial]

They prolly mean NA rag

Eu rag is fine

[gaunt moat]

oh

[gaunt moat]

i'll try out the build rn

even without the buffs

[eternal sundial]

Like i did a COT did 1.2 mil on first, 1.4 and 1.6 on 3rd and last

Dont talk abt 2nd was played horribly

[buoyant salmon]

3rd doesnt count that boss takes more phys damage

lmao

[south kayak]

Does the build use OF?

[buoyant salmon]

idk why

[eternal sundial]

[eternal sundial]

No

[south kayak]

You can you send the build

[eternal sundial]

Drop of points for vc

Drop roar for 2 point spear

Swap ava buff

[south kayak]

Okay

Are you using all spear nodes

[gaunt moat]

don't say it so loudly

blizzard may hear you

[eternal sundial]

Yes

[buoyant salmon]

i mean it should be patched but yeah

[south kayak]

Ok how’s this in aoe

Might be better this reset

This build

[eternal sundial]

Idk on last ur just padding and reflecting away its good warr key

[eternal sundial]

Eh

It does alright aoe

Less burst

So i use mandate with it rather than egg cuz i want even more st

[south kayak]

Single target man

So tomorrow you just change RA to AM?

[eternal sundial]

Idk prolly

[digital lotus]

is our st guud now or we still bad

find out tmrw

[pearl sequoia]

still worst in the game

[turbid bay]

What build are you guys running on mythic rashan. Feels kinda bad that adds dont contribute to dps, weird they took that away. Are you guys running st and pooling bladestorm for adds?

Its still bad we are the worst dps

For st

[teal pine]

adds count again tomorrow

[digital lotus]

RB and BT buffs look good on paper tho

[pearl sequoia]

where was this said?

[south kayak]

Delete frost dk

[pseudo dawn]

adds count?

[proper onyx]

yes, announcement in wcl disc that they were dumb and are adding adds back in partition with tomorrows patch

they still wont count from previous parses

but will count tomorrow

[turbid bay]

It was stupid they were taken out

Feels bad to plan cds to blow up a important unavoidable obejctive on the fight

[eternal sundial]

I think their main concern ended up being ppl copy top logs for their class

And all fury go st

And grief raid

[turbid bay]

I was just sacking parse tbh. If your pooling cds and going aoe hard af to get a 90 +

[upper axle]

My own build of fury i not that far from top build

[eternal sundial]

Is it smf

[upper axle]

And my fury warr is heroic raiding

[eternal sundial]

HC doesnt stop ppl from weird decisions

[upper axle]

Dont mind me just bringing thane to the whole raid

[eternal sundial]

Oh ye that's fine

You can do a lot worse

(colossus arms for example)

[upper axle]

• i dont switch between single or multi build

[upper axle]

I have never played as arms warrior

[eternal sundial]

That's just giving up damage for tree

Arms is designed utterly horribly, do try

[upper axle]

I like better fury

[covert blaze]

Jugg is fucking cringe

[north sky]

Ragnaros NA is cringe

[buoyant salmon]

youre jsut racist

who cares

stop being cringe

[north sky]

wait were u the hunter that just griefed my key

[covert blaze]

there are players in ragnaros x10 better than you

[buoyant salmon]

no i dont ply latam servers im not latam

[proper onyx]

people who don't speak the same language think the other ones suck, more at 11

[north sky]

found the ragnaros player

[eternal sundial]

Idk there's always someone somewhere so good that if you raided them on the same spec youd look so bad you never would wanna play again

[eternal sundial]

Wrong but xd

[buoyant salmon]

its such a silver elo thing

[covert blaze]

you are a random

[buoyant salmon]

am i a random too

[covert blaze]

just grouping people together

[vague stone]

Sadest anniversary ever!

[south kayak]

What’s your obsession with Ragnaros players

Lol

[weary sail]

Get this guy out of this discord

[covert blaze]

bet youre drooling on your key thinking other people are responsible for your mediocrity

[south kayak]

Ragnaros players responsible for villain arc

[north sky]

deadass

[steel shard]

guys guys

all NA servers are trash

[young swan]

except the one that battered echo right

[covert blaze]

youre great choco

[buoyant salmon]

smoge

died+no skyfury rebuff until halfway through lust was done

[young swan]

[eternal sundial]

Arm on Queen surely

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAO

[covert blaze]

?

[eternal sundial]

Bro lust desynch

Entire raid

And arms blasta P3

Suurely

[buoyant salmon]

just fiending for rage

pls let me hit my spells

[gaunt moat]

that cringe moment when you heroic leap on ara kara last boss you go through a puddle get stuck and the add is one billion light year away you can't stun it

[young swan]

feel like what u just suggested should qualify as brain damage

[south kayak]

[buoyant salmon]

LMFAOOOOOO

[eternal sundial]

You shouldve seen the unholy shit we are doin in factorio

[covert blaze]

ok guys lets do a 5 minute pull timer

[eternal sundial]

There's fog in my brain

[eternal sundial]

From pull 1 btw

(P3 is 100 pulls away)

[south kayak]

30 second pull timers in EP

[young swan]

have u been spending time around anda or some shit

[south kayak]

Xan why is arcane getting buffed

[young swan]

why are u asking me

[south kayak]

You’re blue

[young swan]

why would I know

[teal pine]

mage is blue

[proper onyx]

🟦

[young swan]

im gonna shoot both of u

[south kayak]

Shaman is more blue

Than mage

[young swan]

https://imgur.com/ccu7dbw

[south kayak]

That’s not going live

[covert blaze]

me too please

[young swan]

yeah it already got nerfed

(idk what got nerfed)

[covert blaze]

neither are you if i catch you

[south kayak]

Did you see how everything around it lights up blue lol

Looks so fun

[south kayak]

[young swan]

pretty sure thats the shield imbue

[south kayak]

It is

[south kayak]

Overload stuff

Tempest overload was huge

[frozen tartan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveWoW/s/UyESH0BlBl

This guy has to be trolling. Imagine getting so many attention and still complain.

[covert blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-feel-safe-inside-your-house-gif-23597393

[eternal sundial]

I play factorio with 5 PPL in IT

[radiant plank]

Good morning Phil

[south kayak]

I saw that

[eternal sundial]

When i work in logistics so we have very different views on what's a good way to do shit

[south kayak]

Not right now

[eternal sundial]

Which leads to weird debates

[eternal sundial]

GM Walhe

[south kayak]

I’m in shaman discord

[radiant plank]

[radiant plank]

noo

Are you Xan

undercover

[south kayak]

I rerolled

[young swan]

im not in the shaman discord

I think the only other class discord im in is evoker

for emotes

[radiant plank]

idk i sawblue on sidebar

and it was your name

Got confused

[south kayak]

Lmao

[young swan]

[south kayak]

Someone’s stealing identity