#fury

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summer crater
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Mid on the rest

median dust
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No but I’m here for it. Makes it entertaining

heavy dock
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knowing bliz it will be a terrible mech that further wastes ur time

proven olive
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roohni is convinced m+ will have a no bricking feature next xpac based off of...hopes and dreams i guess

heavy dock
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cuz wow is built by time wasting systems on top of another

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i mean

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strong breach
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let him dream

heavy dock
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i do but not rn

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waiting for anniversary

strong breach
heavy dock
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like can anyone tell me what purpose does having trash in raids do

dapper goblet
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bring back depleted keys

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teach noobs a lesson

heavy dock
compact knot
proven olive
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well raids are for storytelling before anything else so

heavy dock
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well except boes

proven olive
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this is an mmorpg after all

buoyant salmon
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every single person complaining right now is a random fotm player

heavy dock
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u goblins

strong breach
buoyant salmon
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lmfao

summer crater
heavy dock
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ive played war since cata idk

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not fotm

ashen socket
summer crater
strong breach
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mm+ literally saved the game

buoyant salmon
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i have connections to blizzard

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youre right

quaint forge
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I don’t hate trash. It’s not egregious in Nerub

eager thorn
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chocos dad owns blizz

hard widget
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I think we should get booted into a work portal instead of the game, and get paid hourly for completing tasks, so we dont waste time

summer crater
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The warrior discord is the only place where you consistently find people defending blizzard nerfing the class

quaint forge
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Show me

heavy dock
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and seemingly ppl defending blizz poor design lol

summer crater
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Yes

buoyant salmon
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do not twist my words

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anniversary patch is shit

hard widget
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Isnt playing video games by definition a way of trying to spend ur time?

strong breach
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yeah we all should insult and spit on blizzard ! what a good thinking !

buoyant salmon
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last nerfs for warrior were shit

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enhance and frost dk are egregiously op

heavy dock
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ill never understand why ppl will defend bricking but meh w/e

summer crater
dapper goblet
buoyant salmon
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warrior would be super if they didnt get nerfed at the start of the patch

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sorry xeos mustnt cap

formal ravine
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And then in the middle

summer crater
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Them not being is the reason FDK buffs are going through and warrior nerfs are going through even though we're lower mid at best in mythic+

heavy dock
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i think thats

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funny

buoyant salmon
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talking about mini game

heavy dock
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on mythic sikran

dapper goblet
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dapper goblet
hard widget
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Thats insta 50%

heavy dock
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but does that give 1m dps

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over what id expect? lol

dapper goblet
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prob

heavy dock
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keeping that number on st seems absurd lol

dapper goblet
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i'm just sayin i see 2 fury warriors and 1 enh in a lot of queen comps

heavy dock
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i wonder why

dapper goblet
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that means fury is 2x stronger than enh

formal ravine
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On bench press?

heavy dock
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not like queen has abs perfect timings for our cds :D

tardy lark
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now now

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p3 adds are 1 min apart

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cant win em all

strong breach
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the fact that war is very good in this raid is why we're getting nerfed

teal pine
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Complaining about warrior in raid is giga cope. Not sure why so many care so much about m+ performance

heavy dock
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well i wasnt talking about mythic queen cuz no one is doing that

teal pine
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Just do your 8 keys for vault and go blast raid

formal ravine
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Wait till you find out this game has pvp

buoyant salmon
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warrior is fine in m+

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its not good lets keep it a buck

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but saying its shit is just proveably wrong

dapper goblet
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well i think the way fury is played is degenerate and blizzard is trying to make it not donkey snipe gameplay

heavy dock
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wow pvp keks

dapper goblet
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so it sucks now but it'll get better

summer crater
heavy dock
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in season 4

dapper goblet
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let me ask my crystal ball rq

heavy dock
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we get pair of legendary 2 handers "xalathats toenails"

summer crater
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They already nerfed the sniping and are nerfing further, it's not like Blizzard tends to be fast with buffing people back to middle again after nerfs

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Usually two seasons or so

upbeat coral
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im here because someone in trade chat said there was a bunch of angry people arguing

desert field
summer crater
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That Blizzard is extremely slow with buffing up against after nerfs?

heavy dock
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target cap

buoyant salmon
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yes

tulip swallow
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delete target cap

dapper goblet
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buoyant salmon
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show me one time a spec has been nerfed to be bad and not buffed up for 2 seasons

summer crater
formal ravine
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Priest

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Started in season 2

buoyant salmon
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in recent memory?

formal ravine
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And till end of Df was fine?

quaint forge
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Prot warrior in DF?

formal ravine
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Priest despite the 2 min nerf on PI

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Despite all the changes

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remained pretty fine

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Till forever

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strong breach
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til tww*

buoyant salmon
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spriest fire mage vdh havoc prot warrior all in dragonflight alone

formal ravine
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on mass dispell not PI*

buoyant salmon
ashen socket
buoyant salmon
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its remained really good since double leggo shadowlands

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never takes damage

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formal ravine
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Season 2 it wasn't top 3

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It was bear, Dh , p aladin

heavy dock
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imagine a world where all dispellable debuffs were magic+their respective thing so all healers could dispell

formal ravine
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IDR where warrior ranked in that season

buoyant salmon
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i mean i think it was overplayed

formal ravine
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But all of the other 3 were much better

buoyant salmon
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"guardian utility is too good"

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guardian druid utility???

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really?

ashen socket
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Their fear is atleast better than ours

strong breach
heavy dock
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arent they doing 12 keys with bear and 4 dps rn

buoyant salmon
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vdh in season 3 was criminal before triple sigil nerfed but after that u could play whatever tank

strong breach
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no brick, every can dispell everything

heavy dock
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every healer

buoyant salmon
heavy dock
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not everyone

summer crater
hard widget
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Choco, why did u read the tooltip

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Ur name is not what it used to be

strong breach
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wait

heavy dock
summer crater
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I mean fire literally just became meta because of augment

formal ravine
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Also i think Aug since introduction to now has remained top tier

heavy dock
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i rly think it would open more healers for play other than shaman cuz poison everywhere lol

buoyant salmon
formal ravine
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So aug has had 3 good seasons, or 2.5

buoyant salmon
formal ravine
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since current is ongoing

strong breach
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aug was a mistake

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change my mind

formal ravine
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I can't

summer crater
formal ravine
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cus i agree

summer crater
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Then 26% as soon as augment came

formal ravine
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I hate aug with a passion

buoyant salmon
formal ravine
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To me it's like PI, pi already was annoying cus it benefited certain specs more, aug is just a PI on steroids

buoyant salmon
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correlation isnt causation

hard widget
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Loads of people choose 3x dps instead of aug

tropic yacht
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does anynoe know where i can find the thunderous roar/spear macro

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where dpeending on what one youre talented into shows

heavy dock
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but lots of ppl still choose aug

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just make aug a healer or smth

formal ravine
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@hard widget nono the argument was which spec has had nerfs and remained relevant

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And i brought up aug

buoyant salmon
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aug is pretty perfectly balanced right now

median dust
hard widget
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I see

strong breach
buoyant salmon
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u can time keys with and without it, in raid its better than dev but hardly so and arguably not worth on most bosses bc its a lot harder to play optimally than dev

formal ravine
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Honestly aug just amplified the gap with externals

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buoyant salmon
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for small increase

formal ravine
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Naturally some specs will take a bigger benefit out of it

buoyant salmon
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probably the best it can possibly be balanced

ashen socket
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Awh like all video game protests they gave up after 5 minutes

formal ravine
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since the fucking spec is a walking external

summer crater
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At least spec diversity right now is much better than DF was for most of its duration

buoyant salmon
formal ravine
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I recall there was rumours in s1 that 3rd evoker spec would be tank, and then aug happened

strong breach
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buffing fdk is dumb. But SS arcane needed some love

formal ravine
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Would've taken a tank any day ...

heavy dock
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they need to add the big dragon model to evoker

old ember
heavy dock
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and make it tank

feral ivy
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NGL i thought ppl took aug for the cc they have

formal ravine
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Ye it's not Dr'able

heavy dock
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cc is just a big bonus on top

hard widget
formal ravine
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knock up knock back etc

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Also so much cheesing with it

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The waystones allowed for some insane pulls

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That you can't do without them

heavy dock
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whenever i look at aug gameplay it reminds me of lost ark supports, but then i remember this is wow and here u have the classic comp

strong breach
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war will get a rework like ret had in df and will be meta in S2

heavy dock
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so a dmg buff support kinda breaks the game lol

formal ravine
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like what was it called the thorn dungeon? With teh corruption?

median dust
mossy fox
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the nerf to stops is so boring

ashen socket
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Whenever I que up for a key and they take an aug in I just wanna leave it because people have this idea that aug is still meta (which sure it is in some of the top keys still) But its absolute dogass in pugs.

heavy dock
feral ivy
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stops?

heavy dock
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and then they also add a shitton of random casts

median dust
buoyant salmon
formal ravine
mossy fox
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annoying too if you're stopping something the same moment someone is kicking

heavy dock
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that one shot ur grp if they go through

summer crater
feral ivy
buoyant salmon
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nagura was like "big pulls are fun dont u care" and papa blizz said "no"

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insane

ashen socket
formal ravine
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buuuut you can fear them

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Ooor shockwave

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And then they recast lmao

hard widget
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I understand why they nerfed stops. But yea, agreed it fucking sucks especially in pugs

heavy dock
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just add stops back

ashen socket
# strong breach depends on how high

Well right now the highest pugs I have seen done are 12s you probably could go 13 but you are probably looking at a pretty hefty brick rate with any class at that point

formal ravine
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you know what i find obnoxious about stops nerfs?

heavy dock
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game is 10 times more fun with it

median dust
formal ravine
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They are in a way trying to stop huge pulls, but the top end wll always find a way to pull like maniacs

oak pecan
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So why are frost dks getting buffed and warriors getting nerfed

narrow delta
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Who just saw Dratnos video as he pulled up WCL?
His warrrior got a 99 and gapped the raid - conclusion fury needed nerfs

strong breach
ashen socket
heavy dock
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i just want my spell reflect back

young swan
heavy dock
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fdks can ams more shit we can spell reflect

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not fair

ashen socket
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So far the people that I have gotten are shitters that can't come close to 2mil

narrow delta
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I kindly ask that man to sandbag more so dratnos doesnt get us more nerfed

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ok tyvm

formal ravine
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Or more like blocking the dmg instance than reflecting

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but yeah

heavy dock
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well it puts u in a 'deflect state'

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like turtle

eager thorn
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Spell reflecting is fun till someone kicks what ur tryna reflect

heavy dock
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ye hate that

summer crater
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In pugs most of the spells I want to reflect just get kicked by someone

formal ravine
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No but why can't i spell reflect the vomit in siege?

slow haven
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for both our weaps is it best to have it enchanted with radiant power on both?

formal ravine
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Liek it's DIRECTED AT ME?

hard widget
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Rip another warrior nerf

formal ravine
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Why is it not reflectable?

heavy dock
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vomit is weird indeed

narrow delta
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someone always kicks after you put up a reflect

ashen socket
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Ok hear me out, Change fury to a tank spec, Keep its damage the same, and make it a leech tank, Ez fury fix

velvet obsidian
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Spell reflect weak aura doesn't even know what all is doable. Keeps telling me to reflect the drain fluids

narrow delta
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those are the rules

eager thorn
feral ivy
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give me SR where i can taunt boss and SR and do top dps.. give us NOK back

mossy fox
heavy dock
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why cant i reflect the water debufff on last boss in siege

honest sundial
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can we make petition to delete warrior to end our suffering

restive peak
# dapper goblet relax

I will kinda agree w Xeos here, even comparing enh to FDK is a bit of a stretch...especially after tomorrow lol

eager thorn
heavy dock
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u cant

eager thorn
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Just very tight timing

heavy dock
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i can tell u

feral ivy
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isnt all of shammy dps changing their rotation and everything tomorrow?

heavy dock
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ive tried it a lot

formal ravine
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Apparently elemental is going vers-mastery

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Had a guildy go to item recovery just today and get back 7 vers-mastery items

ashen socket
hard widget
eager thorn
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Ye i cant remember who said its possible

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Would have to dig

keen fulcrum
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Surely they'll buff us back up...right?

heavy dock
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in m0 week, i had reflect up on every cast

keen fulcrum
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Right?!

heavy dock
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before the boss did it

summer crater
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It definitely doesn't work by following the weakaura

heavy dock
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during the thing flying at me

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it never worked

formal ravine
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But even if you do not follow the weak aura

feral ivy
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im debating FDK or ENH to learn for pushing keys and raid

formal ravine
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just by pressing it, sometimes you would get it even randomly

alpine kiln
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On the eve of the nerfs, I must say

heavy dock
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s2 df was the most fun spell reflect season

formal ravine
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Was it s2 with neltharion's lair?

eager thorn
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Ye

median dust
formal ravine
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so many sr's there

heavy dock
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i remember in the cata air dungeon, i would go to ppl with chain lightning circle to spell reflect lol

hard widget
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Fated Shadowlands chess board reflect upper karazhan was the most satisfying by far

heavy dock
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ye neltharions had so many

feral ivy
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i think the only dungeon with the BEST SR is NOK 100%

heavy dock
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in some dungeons i had spell reflect as my top 6

buoyant salmon
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banger

formal ravine
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@hard widget that was such huge dmg damn

hard widget
heavy dock
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the water jet on halls of infusion too

formal ravine
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Oh and the fact that we could spell reflect' muehzala's fists

heavy dock
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but that one was very risky i remember

formal ravine
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Made that fight so chill

ashen socket
formal ravine
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no moving at all

heavy dock
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necrotic is funny with the last boss too

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i had a +10 where 8/9 ice chains were casted on me

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and reflected all

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lol

formal ravine
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yeah you can do all consistently

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he doesn't cast fast enough to miss any

heavy dock
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they added phys dmg to most tank busters in tww

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smh

nimble ermine
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speaking of reflect why cant i reflect the glaciar daggers from duo boss in cot

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that shit dookie

eager thorn
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All the diff interactions with stuff is what really makes m+ fun for me

formal ravine
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yeah dunno

strong breach
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Shaman and fdk will get an aura nerf before the next reset

formal ravine
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But i think you can leap + charge if you have the dispell on charge thing

formal ravine
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and it removes it

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Cus it's a slow

heavy dock
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ye every season i would spend trying to learn reflects

formal ravine
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but i am not 100% sure on this

heavy dock
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but its rly cringe that most shit is deflect this season

formal ravine
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Oh yeah it's slayer

heavy dock
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like the corrupt on grim batol faceless

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its just deflect

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boring

formal ravine
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same with dragon debuff

nimble ermine
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i mean it would be silly to just kill the add with reflect

heavy dock
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and on stonevault mechs, u cant even reflect the lava shot

formal ravine
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Look at how much dmg reflect did on last boss in neltharion's lair

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It was my 2nd dps

heavy dock
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ye lol

eager thorn
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Thats prob not good tho

heavy dock
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and halls of infusion reflect did like insane ddmg

formal ravine
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Yeah it was also 2nd dps

heavy dock
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u gotta taunt off tank to get it

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it was risky

nimble ermine
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idk man pressing reflect to kill an add cus lol big dam isnt really good design

eager thorn
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^

nimble ermine
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being able to immune it is good enough

heavy dock
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but good design in wow

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this game is filled with shit design

formal ravine
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oh i recall once i got aggro cus of spell reflect

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What's the dungeon called with alakir?

eager thorn
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Vortex pinnacle

summer crater
formal ravine
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yeah

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In one of the pinacles

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The tank was a dh, he jumped in, but dh jump does no dmg

heavy dock
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good design is letting me spell reflect smh

eager thorn
formal ravine
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So one of the adds casted on me, i used spell reflect

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And i took aggro from it

heavy dock
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just reduce the dmg if anything

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just being plain deflect is zzzz

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its one of the few utilities we can have as war

eager thorn
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I think deflect on channels is fine

heavy dock
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nah its boring

eager thorn
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Reflect on single hit casts like it is for a lot of stuff is nice

nimble ermine
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idk man being able to say "lol fuck that" every 24 seconds to casts is more than fine

eager thorn
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^

heavy dock
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get me back to s2 df

formal ravine
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Also in shadowlands, i can't remember the dungeon but there was one that multiple things casted at you at the same time if you went first, and spell reflect would work on all the casts cus they were hitting at the same time

eager thorn
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Off gcd too

median dust
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Whenever I reflect the first boss in CoT and the healer asks why there is only one set because they never see warriors in high keys

eager thorn
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Pretty cracked abil

nimble ermine
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it still works

eager thorn
mossy fox
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do you guys reflect things? my team always makes sure to kick the moment i press reflect

heavy dock
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u can reflect the balls cast?

eager thorn
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There should be a spreadsheet somewhere with big brain fury tips

eager thorn
heavy dock
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oh lol

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didnt know

nimble ermine
hard widget
heavy dock
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same

nimble ermine
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i think i need to break in their house and teach them

lethal stump
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can only do it in vc pretty much

formal ravine
heavy dock
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compulsive interrupters

nimble ermine
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i love it especially in 1st boss in mists

median dust
mossy fox
eager thorn
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Tbf id rather have ppl who kick my reflects than ppl who dont kick at all

nimble ermine
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let the thing hit me

formal ravine
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I do that way too often

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Like my hand interrupts

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mny brain wants to reflect

heavy dock
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first boss in mists is funny

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i spell reflect

median dust
heavy dock
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someone interrupts

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next cast its on me

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and no one interrupts

formal ravine
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😄

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that's too real

nimble ermine
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i natty tank that shit

mossy fox
formal ravine
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YES

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If i leap out i am auto charging in

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And it's even harder not to, when leap and charge are off the gcd

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It's like they auto happen

gaunt moat
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The charge thing happens so many time i swear

heavy dock
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i one pressed charge instead of tclap when running out of a mech

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i died

hard widget
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Dont charge, Raszageth moments

nimble ermine
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i love seeing 30 pools of bad on the ground but i still press charge

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rashanan moment

lethal stump
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i really don't understand the fury changes, it's going to make us stronger for brood, the only fight we are good at

summer crater
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Huh

formal ravine
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And the worst habit i have is that i convince myself that if i jump over a floor effect it won't hit me =.=

nimble ermine
eager thorn
heavy dock
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that works with leap usually

median dust
formal ravine
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Not leap

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I mean jump

heavy dock
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i like leaping over ansurek void circle

lethal stump
formal ravine
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Space jump

heavy dock
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oh lol

formal ravine
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I sometimes am jumping over the poison puddles in last boss mists

nimble ermine
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fury isnt bottom on rash

formal ravine
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I know i will take dmg

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I still do it

nimble ermine
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the logs are lying to you

acoustic yoke
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Ngl I think I may jump on the FDK train

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Not because warrior is shit but because it's actually fun to play

lethal stump
# mossy fox nah doubt it

people already run anger management on it and the target cap doesnt really make a difference when there are 40 mobs

covert void
nimble ermine
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i like playing fdk but breath build is a snoozer

summer crater
acoustic yoke
indigo arch
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Jump on muti rogue, less people play it= less ppl crying to nerf it

acoustic yoke
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I just like fun

mossy fox
acoustic yoke
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But sadly I'm the only warrior in guild

lethal stump
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dw guys fdk is getting a 8% buff

nimble ermine
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@mossy fox when is the unholy arc going to start

acoustic yoke
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I'm stunlocked

gaunt moat
hard widget
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Is this the moment Gripcake becomes the main team dps over Critcake?

eager thorn
lethal stump
acoustic yoke
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Full name change to Gripcake?

eager thorn
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And rash will likely change when adds are readded

fickle wharf
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Hey, Thane is slightly better in m+ and slayer in raid ?

acoustic yoke
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Maybe not as marketable actually

unreal violet
summer crater
acoustic yoke
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Gripcake may not be seen fondly

median dust
fickle wharf
fickle wharf
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and btw, do you play bladestorm or ravager in m+ ?

summer quail
ashen socket
hard widget
gaunt moat
cosmic lance
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I can only assume they're balancing based on raid damage as usual and m+ is the afterthought

acoustic yoke
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11.1 is when we get our talent tree rework trust

lethal stump
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anybody think thane would be better on brood next week?

indigo arch
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Clearly warrior is being tuned for a warrior only legendary in s2

indigo arch
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Right? Right?

acoustic yoke
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Cause I believe we're the only class that hasn't even had a tree rework

lethal stump
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even with 2% nerf to slayer?

gaunt moat
acoustic yoke
lethal stump
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ah true

hard widget
indigo arch
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Let's not speak of that axe

median dust
indigo arch
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Or the horrible channel

nimble ermine
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they are bound to hit the jackpot once

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yeah the axe was so good they made it into an ability

ashen socket
eager thorn
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1h legendary that lets smf be meta

ashen socket
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I may just be thinking that up though

acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
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demolish might be one of the worst things they made

summer crater
acoustic yoke
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I like demolish

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It cranks

indigo arch
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If I have to go smf to see fury above ret fdk muti so be it

acoustic yoke
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And I can leap in it

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Drive-by demolition goes hard

nimble ermine
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what if there was just no castime

indigo arch
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Maybe we can get anduins swords since he keeps breaking his nails and having a cry

gaunt moat
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Nah i keep grinding my head i can't find a reason for the fdk buff

nimble ermine
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and no target req

indigo arch
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Legendary acquired

gaunt moat
frozen berry
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I could see them making SMF all about attack speed/auto attacks, let it be the better ST choice for Fury?

acoustic yoke
restive granite
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My dad who works at mario told me theyre making a Shalamayne leggo for warr. You get the 2 handed version for arms and 2 one handed for fury when you split it up. Thats going to be our fix

nimble ermine
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will they correct it

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who knows

median dust
indigo arch
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I wish dad at nintendo was real

nimble ermine
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make a warrior legendary that just fucking kills you if you arent in combat

mossy fox
north edge
hard widget
acoustic yoke
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I'll take cool capstones and I'll forgive blizzard's crimes

hard widget
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That was fun

indigo arch
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The wild part was trying to give demolish to prot too, a as if they'd want to have a button that self ccs either

summer quail
nimble ermine
#

prot shouldve had slayer

indigo arch
#

It really should have

nimble ermine
#

give them bladestorm too

lethal stump
#

just give us condemn back and we have st damage

nimble ermine
#

would be funny

indigo arch
#

I miss prot bladestorm

frozen berry
#

...Prot centered around Bladestorm and execute?

acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
#

why not

nimble ermine
median dust
hard widget
#

I swear if we get a legendary like we did in season 3 again, i stop playing warrior for the forseable future

nimble ermine
#

we just delete colossus

#

im fine with having just 2 hero trees

lethal stump
#

give dps warriors lust

acoustic yoke
#

I'm tired of leggos now

#

I've grinded for 2 damn leggos in 2 seasons back-to-back

#

Let me be free blizzard

eager thorn
summer crater
#

Damn

hard widget
#

Most alt unfriendly experience ever btw

indigo arch
#

At this point I'll take a legendary, anything to crawl out the hole repeated patch notes have put fury m+ in

summer crater
#

Almost 12% buff both ST and AOE on arcane

eager thorn
#

Adding lust/cr to warr doesnt fix our problems

inner zinc
acoustic yoke
#

Costing me the same as a SL leggo as well

#

Blizzard please

nimble ermine
#

blizz cant make fun engaging leggo grinds anymore can they

frozen berry
#

If onl;y a single warrior spec got heroism, I only see it working with a Bannerlord support spec for warrior if they decided to make that a thing /shrug

hard widget
#

😎

indigo arch
#

Lust won't help warr, the specs that give lust do more for parties

eager thorn
lethal stump
median dust
#

lol . This discord channel literally cycles the same 3 conversations every 45 minutes

indigo arch
#

Give actual buffs. Give banners or smth

molten spire
#

Which slot is it worth upgrading first?

acoustic yoke
#

Just give warrior an aoe cheat death duh

molten spire
#

weapon?

acoustic yoke
#

Name it some shit like defying shout

molten spire
#

and rings?

acoustic yoke
#

Simple

lethal stump
#

or just like too angry to die

gaunt moat
frozen berry
hard widget
#

Give warriors touch of death at 60%

torpid sand
#

finally got all portals, god bless LETSGOOO

nimble ermine
#

grats

torpid sand
#

SV was the last one remaining

fickle wharf
#

do you play bladestorm or ravager in m+ ?

north edge
#

I want the buffed ancient aftershock back

indigo arch
#

Make rallying cry not be a shit 10% health, and an actual dr%

torpid sand
#

Ravager

eager thorn
north edge
#

The one that knocks down enemies consnyatlh for 15 secs

acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
lethal stump
nimble ermine
#

bs on slayer

indigo arch
#

10% does fuckall

torpid sand
#

this Shammy tho, holy fuck

indigo arch
#

So does 15

torpid sand
#

my man was not here to joke

lethal stump
inner zinc
#

give rallying cry the darkness treatment where its stronger in 5man content

unreal violet
#

just rework warrior 100% from the ground up(:

hard widget
fickle wharf
#

And thane all day for m+ ?

north edge
#

Rally cry should just be passive

#

Shaman hp buff is pretty much passive anyway

nimble ermine
#

thane is good in m+ and so is slayer

median dust
north edge
#

It’s always up

nimble ermine
#

play what you prefer

hard widget
indigo arch
#

Give commanding shout baked into bshout and let it stack with fort

acoustic yoke
#

Rallying cry should just be namechanged to Therapy and instead of buffing health it helps you seek mental help

north edge
#

It’s actually insane resto shamans have a perm hp buff for the group

indigo arch
#

Idk anything lmao

nimble ermine
indigo arch
#

That or blizz owns their mistakes and unnerfs

hard widget
#

🙂

torpid sand
#

is it even worth swap for 839 DPS keks

#

This polearm seems garbage aint gonna lie

acoustic yoke
hard widget
nimble ermine
#

idk i accepted my spec is there to give my enha bshout

polar roost
#

rework warrior

hard widget
#

Buff FDK

acoustic yoke
#

Ngl this is my least fun m+ season

glad coyote
#

jsut keep the protests going on dungeon finder

acoustic yoke
#

Somehow topping DF s2

glad coyote
#

blizzard cant ignore us for long

hard widget
#

This deserved a smiley face

nimble ermine
#

i think the squish and the death affix make this season ass

acoustic yoke
#

I think the 15 secs affix and ass dungeon pool really messed this season up for me

median dust
keen kindle
keen kindle
#

Pugging somehow got 2,000% worse this xpack

nimble ermine
#

issue is no healer is having fun lmao

acoustic yoke
#

Yeah but fuck healers

nimble ermine
#

unless if you're a rshammy

keen kindle
#

Healers are allowed to have fun?

acoustic yoke
#

Subhumans

keen kindle
#

Since fucking when

acoustic yoke
#

DPS are all you need

gaunt moat
keen kindle
#

I thought all their fun came from feeding their sadism

keen kindle
#

Fucking grim batol

#

Those FUCKING WARLOCKS

acoustic yoke
#

The stupid cast change

#

That somehow made stops even more in demand

#

Defying the actual purpose of the change

nimble ermine
#

idk today i had a mm hunt in an ara11 complain we didnt kick miniboss frontal

keen kindle
#

lmao what

#

...you...you can't

nimble ermine
#

so i thunk the key squish kinda brought some doodoo players in keys they shouldnt be in

acoustic yoke
#

Just roll shaman and interrupt every 10 secs

nimble ermine
nimble ermine
#

he had turtle up too

keen kindle
#

People think new 7s are old 7s \

#

And try to face roll it

cerulean thorn
#

had a lot more fun at my colonoscopy

inner zinc
acoustic yoke
#

It's a talent for riptide iirc

keen kindle
#

It's...it's not even close. I don't even feel like M+ is THAT much harder then it was, people are just fucking stupid

gaunt moat
#

Guys wanna do a stonevault? Only 10 mobs per pack to kick it's nothing right? Right?

nimble ermine
#

im not a good player by any means since i havent gone into 12s yet, but the pop on 10 and 11s is so so weird

#

it's worse than gambling

keen kindle
#

10s?

acoustic yoke
#

Anything past 10 is a massive leap

keen kindle
#

GOD DAMN it must be nice to do 10s

#

People can't even 8s

acoustic yoke
#

Hell anything past 8 is

keen kindle
#

I HAVE ONE TIMED 9

#

Because of a guild run

#

I actively gave up on keys this week

nimble ermine
#

dw it took me 1 day to pug a sv 10 because my group was gone

#

ive had countless bricks on the first pull

acoustic yoke
#

I applaud the m+ change attempt but it definitely needs some more cooking

keen kindle
#

I've only done 4 on my main and 4 +2s on my shammy

nimble ermine
#

i think the squish needed to happen, but not this drastic

#

having portals be tied to vault key is stupid

acoustic yoke
#

I mean that was the same b4 though?

#

20s gave you max vault anyhow and a portal

nimble ermine
#

yeah but now you get minimum vault and portal at 10

#

you dont get myth from 9

acoustic yoke
#

Think the real issue is ur season basically 0-100s past a 10

idle ember
#

The night before the ret nerf Pepexecute

restive granite
acoustic yoke
#

And there is barely a buffer before your fighting a 10% dmg and health affix on top of Fort and tyran

acoustic yoke
#

On top of normal level scaling

acoustic yoke
#

Yeah it's a bit shit

#

Especially since myth has 6 tiers

nimble ermine
#

these changes just hurt the casual playerbase of m+ which is really bad

acoustic yoke
#

So it's a massive difference having a hero track to a myth maxed

nimble ermine
#

the earlier tier of players just suffer for no reason

#

like why is the death affix on a 7

acoustic yoke
#

Why is the death affix at all?

oblique thistle
acoustic yoke
#

1:15 a wipe

nimble ermine
#

dunno blizzard™️ way of doing things

summer crater
acoustic yoke
#

On top of a shortened timer than was in beta

#

I don't know how how they didn't see this one not working out well

nimble ermine
#

and also because playing in a group this season is fun

#

the issue is

oblique thistle
nimble ermine
#

it nuked pugging

summer crater
#

Ah

acoustic yoke
polar roost
#

#soloqueue

acoustic yoke
#

It was the little changes that fucked it

oblique thistle
#

I mean the xalatath affixes feel fine

nimble ermine
#

they are

#

except cdr one thay one is dookie

cosmic lance
#

People in general are less geared to pug if they aren't raiding, as max ilvl gear is harder to achieve as a baseline

acoustic yoke
#

Nah the heal absorb tbh

#

If it wasn't shamanable

nimble ermine
#

no

frank dawn
acoustic yoke
#

It would feel so ass

nimble ermine
#

im a war i can deal with the heal one

#

other classes can perish

eager thorn
#

Ye the orbs are really annoying on some bosses

oblique thistle
gaunt moat
#

Did they fix the free 12% damage buff bug on enhancement btw? Or they'll become an atrocity tomorrow?

acoustic yoke
#

Cause of overlapping of multiple healing absorbs for some godforsaken reason

oblique thistle
acoustic yoke
open prairie
#

honestly

nimble ermine
#

i just hate the cdr one because i haye having my cds desynced from my trinkets

open prairie
#

the tank changes just made bad tanks

#

much more obvious

acoustic yoke
#

Well yeah

#

You seen bdks now? Or vdhs?

oblique thistle
#

Question is, is that a good thing? for pugs, I'd argue its not

nimble ermine
#

yeah but blizz needs to pamper tanks and healers cus if there is ever a shortage

acoustic yoke
#

As soon as double sigil left no one knew how to play vdh

nimble ermine
#

we eat shit

open prairie
#

i mean vdh also just

#

dies easier too

acoustic yoke
#

Well that too

gaunt moat
oblique thistle
open prairie
#

but the kick change and vdh nerf

#

yeah

#

i did a weekly with a vdh in s3

acoustic yoke
open prairie
#

that didnt press misery once

#

in 30mins

#

it was impressive

nimble ermine
#

tanks have a big victim complex too this season i feel

timid kernel
#

What's better now. Slayer or Mt thane for M+ and raid?

acoustic yoke
#

So you can see where it can go crazy

nimble ermine
pearl sequoia
#

dont play slayer or thane

nimble ermine
#

thane on court if ur feeling funky

open prairie
#

i blame streamers

#

pug tanks pulling like its mdi

gaunt moat
acoustic yoke
#

Yeah

nimble ermine
acoustic yoke
#

We talking like 2000% increase on a highroll

nimble ermine
#

most dungeons feel like if you hold w you'll get %anyway

#

so most tanks just do that

oblique thistle
#

first pull of stonevault

#

tank nuked

#

leave key

#

back to queue deadge

nimble ermine
#

double pull in sv before vers anvil

#

tank explodes

#

gg

runic cypress
#

Based tank putting you in your place

acoustic yoke
#

Ngl I must confess

nimble ermine
#

reset, does it again, leaves

acoustic yoke
#

I have no fucking idea where the anvil is

north edge
#

Pulling big is a check by the tank for how good the group is

acoustic yoke
#

I know it exists

north edge
#

Since if you fail that first pull the key is bricked anyway

acoustic yoke
#

But never have spotted it

runic cypress
acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
acoustic yoke
#

Well then I'm just blind

runic cypress
acoustic yoke
#

Thnx

nimble ermine
#

explode irl

north edge
#

The dps needs to be able to grip and aoe cc mobs before tank kills himself

#

Since tank will get instainvited to another key anyway

nimble ermine
north edge
#

My prot friend was bricking +12 GBs like 15x in a row

#

Before he found a group able to handle his first pull

gaunt moat
north edge
#

Being 3 packs

acoustic yoke
#

See I don't run enough SV to have been paying much attention ngl

nimble ermine
#

its ok most pugs still dont know about dungeon buffs

runic cypress
#

Frankly it's only useful if you go council first

nimble ermine
#

i love running cot and being the only one get buff

#

cus i have engi

acoustic yoke
#

My favorite is the ara-kara

runic cypress
#

Probably isn't worth the effort to get otherwise

nimble ermine
#

its good to have for council and last

acoustic yoke
#

Cause stunlocking some of the annoying minibosses go hard

gaunt moat
#

I hate CoT viscerally

acoustic yoke
#

We all do

oblique thistle
#

city rp 🙂

nimble ermine
#

i think just 2nd boss is dog

acoustic yoke
#

It's CoS but somehow worse

nimble ermine
#

and the spies part

ashen socket
acoustic yoke
#

And then the last boss is just mechanical aids

#

Not difficult mind you

nimble ermine
#

i love last boss because i reflect splice

acoustic yoke
#

But just shit back to back

nimble ermine
#

dopamine hit

runic cypress
#

Cot is frankly one of the more doable dungeons especially the last boss in comparison to fucking GB last boss or GB trash

acoustic yoke
#

GB has grown on me

restive peak
#

GB last boss is a meme after nerfs/changes to visuals

oblique thistle
#

hot take, I think GB last boss is probably the best boss in the whole dungeon

nimble ermine
#

gb last boss is chill

acoustic yoke
#

Especially once I found out tentacles were reflectable

restive peak
#

Just literally don't kill the adds early and you win

nimble ermine
#

gb is just pug fiesta

#

from experience

gaunt moat
#

The spies and the second boss dashing everywhere and the first adds where you've to rotational kick as pugs then the last boss where ranged refuses to come melee so they get stuck we gotta go to them to save them and the first boss when healer instant dispell not letting us place ourselves getting stunned the tank dies from the stun the key is bricked

ashen socket
nimble ermine
#

even with cheese spot on 3rd boss ive had people walk into the fixate

#

so yk

#

cant fix stupid

ashen socket
gaunt moat
#

Everything is pug hell in this key

nimble ermine
#

my dumbass ret paladin making it his mission to use his horse to walk in it

acoustic yoke
#

NW portal guys still being an issue is never not going to be funny to me

runic cypress
acoustic yoke
#

Like they didn't learn from 3 seasons of SL

#

And took them this long to nerf them

gaunt moat
oblique thistle
#

pugging mists is easy until you get to mistcaller and then it all just kind of falls apart because someone makes a mistake

nimble ermine
#

i mean tbh nw's issue is 3rd boss abominations having high hp and last boss as a whole

acoustic yoke
#

But also I just realised s2 TWW dungeons ain't any better

acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
#

absolutely atrocious designed boss

acoustic yoke
#

When it lines up with dmg amp time

buoyant salmon
#

the boss is fine now

#

i mean it sucks but its not egregiously shit and insanely hard

acoustic yoke
nimble ermine
#

which one

buoyant salmon
#

nw 3rd boss

nimble ermine
#

i meant 4th

buoyant salmon
#

u can just 1 phase it pretty easily

nimble ermine
#

i think the design is shit

acoustic yoke
#

Also last boss is just chill in general

buoyant salmon
#

oh last boss is beans yeah

restive peak
#

NW 3rd boss is a giga joke now

buoyant salmon
#

its pretty easy but its fucking beans

acoustic yoke
#

The shit part is not being able to fucking leap

north edge
#

Can’t wait til we have to farm kings rest next season

#

For gettiku

runic cypress
buoyant salmon
#

gettiku will probably be bad

gaunt moat
#

The only thing i hate in tirna is last boss almost invisible random puddles

buoyant salmon
#

if brought back

nimble ermine
#

no

#

dont say that

acoustic yoke
gaunt moat
open prairie
#

pugging darkflame

acoustic yoke
#

Zul mini boss

#

^

oblique thistle
#

darkflame is going to be aids

acoustic yoke
#

Spending 50 mins trying to protect candles

nimble ermine
#

i hope they dont change the payload part

acoustic yoke
#

Rookery is the only decent one

nimble ermine
#

it will spawn some funny comments

runic cypress
#

darkflame timer is 2 hours because people can't do candles right

acoustic yoke
#

The Priory

#

Just ninja pull hell

open prairie
#

monday night no leaver

nimble ermine
#

i think cindrew brew will be fun just because of the 1st room

acoustic yoke
#

Consecrate ticks and you just die

open prairie
#

4h darkflame

acoustic yoke
runic cypress
#

I dunno priory should be ok

pearl sequoia
#

darkflame +5 oh bricked key..

oblique thistle
#

priory seems fine

runic cypress
#

Just kinda hard AOE in the chapel

acoustic yoke
#

Idk fortified priory seems aids

oblique thistle
#

first area of priory might be spicy

gaunt moat
#

Will the beer dungeon be part of next rotation? Can't remember the name

acoustic yoke
#

The amount of annoying aoe piss on the floor

nimble ermine
#

arent there like a gorrillion casters in priory

gaunt moat
#

You know with the one billion adds first pull

pearl sequoia
#

yup

nimble ermine
#

cinderbrew

acoustic yoke
#

Yes

nimble ermine
#

banger

gaunt moat
#

This one is scary ngl

acoustic yoke
#

Which includes the mobs that slow you for almost all your MS

nimble ermine
#

if my tank doesnt pull the whole room in that dungeon whats the point

gaunt moat
#

An interrupt

oblique thistle
#

I'll be going through like "I can't BEElieve I'm about to brick this key!"

acoustic yoke
runic cypress
#

mfw nobody ever kicks in cinderbrew and everyone makes the bearers run through the whole corridor

#

It's gonna be biblical

queen linden
#

See. Wowhead said we aren't getting nerfed. All is good! keks keks

nimble ermine
#

i cant wait for the giga buffed Yes Men to fucking 1 tap my tank

acoustic yoke
#

Or you get to IPA and slimes get to the boss

#

And it now has it's entire health as a shield

pearl sequoia
#

so fucking criminal, buff S tier classes even more

open prairie
#

arcane buff

oblique thistle
#

"Melee (Certainly Sir) : 28.5M"

runic cypress
#

I don't think people even know how the last boss and the bee rider boss work

nimble ermine
#

triple buffed Yes Man with forti and 10% xal atah buff

gaunt moat
nimble ermine
#

it just undos your tank from existence

acoustic yoke
#

Fuck knows the bee dude

open prairie
#

ngl

acoustic yoke
#

Besides don't be on tank

open prairie
#

priory tank trinket

nimble ermine
#

are you guys ready for bee cart trinket

acoustic yoke
#

Oh yeah the trinkets

acoustic yoke
#

The oh so mid trinkets

signal locust
#

Double DK mdi incoming

gaunt moat
#

Priory consecration tick almost one shotting us in heroic it'll be fun in m+

open prairie
#

the tank trinket is op

#

from priory

acoustic yoke
open prairie
#

you can reflect the tick

acoustic yoke
#

No one is respecting the piss

gaunt moat
acoustic yoke
#

That is the same color as the fucking ground itself

nimble ermine
#

cant wait for motherlode to be back (surely)

runic cypress
#

Just move for heads

nimble ermine
#

since its goblin themed patch

open prairie
#

prob shrine is back

nimble ermine
#

no

acoustic yoke
#

Bold of you to assume it's not De Other Side

open prairie
#

since old god shit

acoustic yoke
#

Shrine lmao

nimble ermine
#

lets not bring shrine back

#

i stilk have ptsd

acoustic yoke
#

3rd boss

runic cypress
#

Scarlet Monastery revamp

oblique thistle
#

deadmines timewalking will be a thing tomorrow... one step closer to mythic deadmines??

nimble ermine
#

when i stopped playing was back in bfa towards midway of eternal palace patch

#

so im still not fond of shrine

#

or kings rest

gaunt moat
nimble ermine
#

or temple

acoustic yoke
#

The only important dungeon that needs to come back

nimble ermine
#

temple was fucking boring

acoustic yoke
#

Spires of Ascension

gaunt moat
#

Let's make the worst season possible

nimble ermine
#

easy

#

KR shrine

#

tol dagor

#

and make sure to make balance meta

acoustic yoke
#

Tol dagor is sick wtf

nimble ermine
#

just for tol dagor

open prairie
#

seat of the triumvarate

olive wraith
#

Bring back alegthar academy for the lols

acoustic yoke
#

Who doesn't like tight enclosures?

gaunt moat
#

You forgot sanguine depths

acoustic yoke
#

Sanguine isn't as bad

gaunt moat
#

Bruh

acoustic yoke
#

As some of the others ngl

nimble ermine
#

i love it when my balance druid used some shitty star spell and pulled the whole dungeon

gaunt moat
#

I take tol dagor any day instead or SD

acoustic yoke
#

My main gripe with Depths is the 3rd boss

gaunt moat
#

I stop the game if shrine is back tho i agree